EP 353 | COSMIC WHISTLEBLOWER | Disclosure From Beyond | Majestic Messages From Daniel Salter

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1:00That's no moon. It's a space station. Hey guys, welcome back to the show. Just a few things before we get started. I want to remind everybody that I will be in California this Sunday, Folsom, California this Sunday, February 23rd for Mary Beaver's event. She is a former sergeant, human intelligence officer in the US Army. And she has a, she has boxes of declassified documents that she has been given a green light to share publicly. So she's kind of doing her own little tour and she's starting in California near where she lives. I believe to start disclosing this information and disseminating this information. Publicly, it's going to be a six hour event.

2:01I'll be hosting it, but the tickets are available still online. The website is below in the description. A Donna of Soul.com tickets only $50 in person 25 live stream. If you're in the area, come hang out with us. There's plenty of room. And if not, grab a live stream pass because it's, we have, it's going to be professionally recorded and documented. So because this is important stuff. And we are, you know, we encourage everybody to, you know, support her on her journey because she's really doing a brave thing right now. And if you feel compelled to join us, grab a ticket. And also we have our conference coming up in May, May 12th through the 15th, Rebels of Disclosure 2025. You can find all of that information at journeytotruth.online. We have a great lineup of speakers this year. I think there's 13 of them, including Melissa Morton. And if you guys are familiar with the Sans of Times books and Sean David Morton, he just recently passed away unfortunately. But his wife is carrying the torch and she's going to be speaking at our conference. Her first time for her first time ever sharing information that she has that Sean never got to release pertaining to the time travel material of the Sans of Time that's.

3:11That's just literally earth shattering information in my opinion. I believe you guys have read those books as well. So we're super excited about that journey to truth.online is where you can find all that information. And today we are joined once again by Derek and Daniel from Shred DeVale. We have had them on the show a few times. They even spoke at our event last year and did a wonderful presentation on their grandfather Daniel Salter who wrote a book called Life with the Cosmos clearance. He had an above majestic top secret clearance, I think 38 levels above top secret or something along those lines. And the book is mind blowing, but what's even more mind blowing is the stuff that these guys. His grandsons are uncovering along the way along their journey digging through his boxes and his research and all this stuff and all the dots they're connecting is really starting to paint a big picture. So we're happy to have them back today to share with us all the updates and revelations that they're coming to.

4:11So welcome to the show. Thank you. Yeah, absolutely. So I don't know how you guys will start this. Maybe for this. There's always new people tuning in, right? So maybe tell our audience who your grandfather was and why you guys are doing this. Why this is important to you to carry on his legacy. Absolutely, yeah. So our grandfather Daniel Salter, he was born in 1928 and he had a career in the Air Force from 1947 to 1968. And after that, publicly, he was retired and was a flight instructor, I like mountain near Dallas, Texas. And then in the mid late 90s, he started coming out publicly discussing his involvement with UFOs and extraterrestrials and time of the truth behind the government narratives of that topic. And then he was part of under Stephen Greer's disclosure project in 2001, one of 21 witnesses that came forward at the National Press Club in DC to give their testimonies.

5:24And there he told us that he was part of the NRO, the National Reconnaissance Office, which was a secretive organization in 2090s. It became publicly known, but it was established in the 40s. And so he said his specialties in the NRO were aliens, UFO technology and particle organization, which we've found is the basis of time travel the way he's describing it. In 2003, a couple years later, after the disclosure project, he came out with his book, like you mentioned life with the Cosmos clearance, and he went into a lot of information about black projects and the agendas that have been going on since the 1930s, about the Nazis, the esoteric societies and the things that they've afford with the book is just full of information. It's like a handbook of the disclosure for people who are just, you know, learning about it. And for us, I was going to say just came to mind just the fact that it was written in 2003.

6:25I mean, this is over 20 years now, and it just seems like everything in that book is slowly but surely coming to light. So I mean, there's nothing that has been kind of debunked yet. It's just all starting to make more and more sense as we see everything unfold now. So it's amazing that that's taking place. Yeah, that's absolutely true. Yeah, there's no question. I mean, we see what's happening right now on the world stage with disclosure and NHI and UAP and all these fancy new terms that give us, but it's all the same stuff. Actually, it's probably more involved than what we're actually getting now because, you know, this was, he wrote this book before he died, probably knowing that he was on his way out. Who knows? I mean, I know he had throat cancer, right? And what did he not have throat cancer? Yeah, in the end, yeah, that's what it was. Yeah, he had a series of many strokes that really deteriorated his health towards the end of his life after he came out with this book and be in a little bit before when it was in the disclosure project.

7:25And that's kind of trying to tie us into where Derek and I are in involvement. We, you know, he didn't start talking about this until the mid 90s, late 90s and we were teenagers. We would see him in a couple of weeks at a time in the summertime just for a visit and he was just started coming up with this information about UFOs. And at that time, we didn't know what to think. No one ever talked to us about that. It kind of blew our minds, kind of kept it to ourselves because kind of sounded out there. We didn't actually know that he was going to the disclosure project in 2001. We didn't find out until later and we didn't even know he was writing book. So he came out with this book and at that time, like I said, his, his health was deteriorating from basically a little before 2000 until he passed away. And so we never really got to talk to him about the information in the book. And so that's why Derek and I are kind of on our journey with our, with our podcast and trying to find new answers to cooperate the information that he presented and see what the real truth was around that.

8:25Because everything is indicated that he held back a lot of information that he did not put in a book for the safety of himself and for his family. Coming forward like that, he's, you know, there's a history of people that they're demise, coming forward with the truth. So he was very fearful of that risk. Right. I mean, I always say this isn't really about disclosure as it is as much as just exposing a national scandal, right? This is, you know, this is a crime syndicate that needs to be exposed. So I think that's where the people, you know, walk on eggshells when it comes to this stuff because you never know, you know, what kind of target is going to be put on your back when you start talking. Obviously, I feel like we're kind of getting moving into safer territory now. In fact, we are, but it all depends on what you're disclosing and who you're exposing. You know, there's still, it's still possible to hire a hitman, you know what I mean. So not everyone's in the clear. But so, okay, you guys recently have, I guess been put in or became friends with a woman who is a channel or a medium, I should say.

9:36And she claimed that your grandfather had been coming through to her and relaying messages to give to you guys. And she has taken extensive notes. I have seen some of these notes. I have read through them. And you guys have as well, I'll let you tell that story and how that started. And maybe we can go through some of these notes because I think it tells a story. It's not just, it's not just information. It tells a story about the entire history of this country and UFOs and all that and even time travel. So maybe explain how you met her and how that all unfolded. It was thanks to your conference last year and the fact that we presented and Dan, I'll let you tell that story. But yeah, no, it was actually, it's amazing that it was almost a year ago and there's been these communications ever since. Yeah, last last year at your conference in May, we, you know, presented about our grandfather, his history, his background, stuff that was in his book and we talked about new revelations of different things that we have been discovering from, you know,

10:42half a dozen different sources, including remote viewing. People have a come forward with more information about our grandfather that kind of cooperated what he had in his book and all these sources kind of lined up with the stories they were telling us. So it was really exciting for us to present that to people. And this woman was here. Her name is Dina. She was at the conference and she was watching us and then it was not until the speakers panel at the end at the very end when we all got up on stage. That she saw our grandfather peer behind Derek and I with his hands on our shoulders while we were sitting there and she has these clear, buoyant clear audience. I don't know what you could really call it, but the medium ship capabilities that she's had for most of her life and she's had experiences with other people coming through from the other side and things like that throughout her life. But it was a very clear image of her grandfather there during that presentation. And she saw some image. She saw him putting something tying on my shoe or something is what she thought it was or helping me put my shoe on is what it was.

11:49And come to find out later tonight. They're talking to my mom about my childhood and what that would have meant. And what I vaguely remember is when I was in kindergarten, my grandfather had gotten me. Cowboy, boy, two cowboy boots. He lived out in Texas and that he would. Yeah, he had to help me put them on because they were really hard for me to get on at the time, but I was so proud of those boots and I wore them all the time. And so it was just one personal valid the first of very many personal validations that she that he presented to her about my childhood about growing up that no one else would know a lot of other validations since May. I mean, since that gosh, it's been over eight months of this communication that she's had with him. And a lot of times in a medium ship, the client will go to the medium and they'll have a session and the person will be there live to try to decipher what the spirit is saying and what's going through. And then at the end of the session, they'll close the channel. But this has been just the constant contact virtually for, like I said, almost a year now when there's just information just keeps coming and coming and keeps appearing and giving her information.

13:00And a lot of these validations to confirm that this is our grandfather. So it's been fascinating journey for sure. And it's important to note that she's not like a professional medium like she doesn't do this for a living. She has her own, you know, a normal day job and but that maybe why she was chosen in a way and why she has the energy or the time to do it. But she's also taking it on as if she considers him, you know, grandpa and like as family now, like and she really fell with the, you know, I guess our story, but really with with him and how he's been communicating with her. Yeah. And I'm just going to share this story. I wasn't going to by might as well just to add to this. I recently was in LA filming for our secret space program documentary. And I was staying at Dean's house. She offered up her home for us to stay and carry Cassidy came over and we filmed it was amazing. And she, this is when she started really getting into your grandfather and she pulled out his notes one morning models there.

14:07And I started reading them like a book. I'm like, oh, this is a story and she didn't know what half of it meant, which is even more bell dating because she's, you know, writing this stuff down, never even heard of some of these terms and, you know, like she didn't know what builder Berg was. And just certain certain things. And it was pretty amazing when I started reading it. I was like, oh, he's he's giving you like the hidden history. What happened behind the scenes all this time in this country, even in the world. And it's kind of basically it kind of reminds me of like the queue movement type of stuff like it's like these drops and it's like it like each note that she wrote like send you down a rabbit hole. And while I was reading them, she was like, he's here. He's he's in the room. And my other friend, Lily, no, you guys might know her. She was there with us. And Lily's also tapped in psychic. And Dina was like, oh, he's here now. And Dina felt them come in the room. And then Lily was like, oh, he just he's right behind me.

15:08And as soon as she said that, like about a few seconds later, I literally felt somebody come and put their hand on top of my head. And like literally felt like straight up like a hand on top of my head and every hair in my body stood up. I'm like, oh shit, like almost brought me to tears. I'm like, he's really here. Like this is something to this. These notes are real. This is really him coming through. And he was wanting like to validate like, yes. And Lily, you know, she's like a channel as well. And she heard. You play a role in this also, meaning like her and I and just us like, I wouldn't say just necessarily us in particular, but the people in this movement, right. And we're helping to disseminate this information. So it was such a powerful moment for me to that I'm like, okay, I should start paying a little more attention to this, because this isn't just personal information. This is stuff that everyone needs to hear. And it really does take the right eyes to kind of break it down and decipher it. And before we start going through those notes, did you guys want to add anything to that or Aaron, did you have anything to ask them?

16:13No, I'm just very curious what came through her with those notes. And yeah, can't wait to hear it. Yeah, a lot of it. Like you said, you have to decipher it because it's very thick and like you said, she didn't really understand a lot of the messages. And she's done a lot of research to, you know, she's been so helpful in this whole experience. I'm but couldn't be more blessed with a person to help us, you know, get this information and try to make something of it. But she's, you know, everything down in these notebooks. And it's very cryptic all the messages that you have to really try to, like you said, go down and see where the links are, the connections of what he's saying. Yeah, it's it's pretty fascinating. Right. And some of it is not so much like some of it still doesn't even make sense to me. Like I understand kind of what the word is referring to, but like some pages really make tell a story. And you guys have read through these. I mean, what do you think before I get into this? What do you think? Like what's your opinion of like maybe Derek? What is your opinion of like what you see here? Is it, is it, is it ring true to you?

17:25Yeah, especially the fact that she there's there's no way she would know it. A lot of these terms are public. That's a lot of validation. A lot of things from save his book sort of pop up, but there's I'd say maybe 50 50 like half of it's just stuff that seems really obscure. Unless you really know of you have to kind of do the research on it and know how it ties together. So it's almost like like you said, it'll go take you down a rabbit hole wherever you go. I was going to say that what I sent you just so that you have the main notes that are like the channeling part that she got word word after word that coming through. That's what a lot was. But a lot of it too was just him trying to validate that it's him with little stories about my brother about the family like things that nobody else would know about except the family. And so that was happening almost just as much as these channelings coming through like the actual like these cute props or these you know the downloads of information he wants us to know.

18:28So that's just important to know that. So what you see is those you know the real specific stuff that you want us to get into the bottom wall. Right, so I'm going to start reading through some of these and you know it's going to I think they're all out of order at this point because of the way he sent them in the way I saved them, but it's okay. It'll still it'll still all make sense. So this is just to give you an idea this was during 30 of 2024. She heard she just writes downwards that she hears an espionage high ranking chief wingmakers, which you guys the he the last chapter of his book was about the wingmakers. One of the only people are really right right by it seriously aside from the website itself. And that comes up a lot passing to baton. So probably passing on a baton to you guys that would imagine right. And that one's come up several times the passing of the baton and she actually sees that and from that that was the imagery with him sing the baton to us about you know this information. Right again wingmakers him shining the light on wingmakers showing me the cave again focus on this.

19:34So something about the wingmakers cave, which I personally think that are the crystals that was found the technology that was found has to do with time travel. I think it's a I think it's directly related to a time travel technology personally. Going if just to expand on that one part of the wingmakers. So that was back in June when he was writing that then she had another experience and I believe was like October September. And it was very like vivid imagery of seeing him in like the ancient arrow site where the wingmakers had their time capsule in Chaco Canyon in New Mexico. And she saw our grandfather, you know feeling the walls of the cave and she. See that it had something to do with what he talked about with particleization and like deportation and it was he said that some. You know he had the ability to naturally be able to use the walls to be able to take advantage of this technology and only certain people could could do it could access that. And he said there was like three or four other ones in New Mexico, but they're located all over the world he said.

20:40It was like an expansion on that from the first time that he came up back in June. Yeah, and what's interesting about the wingmakers to is for one, I don't even know if Dina had read the book before she started getting the messages. So a lot of the stuff she didn't even know was in the book, which is even more impressive. But too, I've also had this dream recall whatever of those wingmakers asked dream where I was like this time travel. But we would put our hand on a rock or a stone in order to travel through time into that spot. So if you go into a cave and you put your hand on the wall, the wall has the memory, the record of everything that's ever happened in the exact place. So you just connect with a different era that's in that stored into the memory of that stone. And you would just go to that moment. That's how we would do it. And in a dream. But it's interesting that you said that I didn't even know that that happened. So yeah, yeah, it was teleportation. It was time travel. And it was the mentioned other dimensions going to other dimensions and our timelines.

21:43Yeah, that's amazing. So the next note is orchestrated. So we can say orchestrated like everything. The way I take that is everything right now has been orchestrated like this. It's all very strategically planned out, even though it might seem kind of like random. It's not high ranking military, powerful government, non-threatening ET's involved, which we have to keep in mind because we understand the threat. Military heist, recondition, and then underwater world, which I found interesting because we hear about these underwater bases. And they very much are playing a role. I mean, there is one that you can see off the coast of Santa Monica, which on Google Earth, you can literally see like the outline of the base under the sea bed, you know, the sea floor, which. So we know that stuff is real. And Debbie Ziegelmaier, if anybody knows who she is, she's a Mufon chief investigator here in Missouri wrote an entire book on like underwater bases and UFOs and documented all the evidence.

22:43Nothing actually woo about it. It's like here's the cases. Here's the evidence. This is what we're dealing with. So there's something there. We can say something there. Yeah, just to expand on that. I just, this is another shout out to Carrie Cassidy, guys, I just watched the old John Lear, like three parts series when she went to his house and he's going through, I mean, it's an amazing office. I know a granddad had a little office that I remember in Tows, but it was nothing like what John Lear and he's going through all these pictures and he's talking about the underwater part. He's saying he's saying this is an image of the naval, whatever naval submarine route, I guess, but it's a map showing of the west coast, like Monterey Bay. And he's the one that drew the lines from Monterey Bay to all these other bases that he's saying the submarines can go from the Pacific Ocean and go all the way into like Lake Tahoe. Like, I mean, basically out into probably close to Denver or wherever it's, I mean, it's, it's just miles and miles.

23:46Right. Aaron, didn't he say like the whole west coast or west half of the country is like a shelf and the ocean actually goes underneath of it. And so, yeah, I mean, there's obviously canals, but I don't know if you remember any specifics about what you said about that or not. I remember that. I don't remember specifics, but that they travel underneath it all the time. Right. Okay. So go ahead. Go ahead, dear. Well, when you talk about underwater and I don't think, you know, I sure this came up in as she was writing this out, but this may have been another occurrence where she had very vivid imagery of he showed her. Himself on a submarine going down through to that article basically is what she saw to bases down. Yeah, so Antarctica and Madagascar are two places to come up a lot in these notes, which I find interesting. So underwater world and then bring it to the surface. All eyes tell lies.

24:47Shenanigans reciprocity cover up in carnation able bodies, racketeer missions, study instrument eye opening witness protection program, which I find interesting because the witness protection program are allegedly according to Sean David Morton, like JFK junior and Princess Diana. They aren't dead. They're just in witness protection program, but each one is under a different witness protection program. I think one is owned by Russia. One is the like MI6 not that Russia, but yeah, MI6 and CIA. And they have like these doing hostages going on. So I wonder what he means by witness protection program like I think certain people that are involved that we might think have been eliminated are still playing a key role in this. Career military adjustment bureau. So that's interesting. If you ever seen that movie where they they literally are like monitoring the timeline and specific people and they'll like stop time and come in and like they literally like alter somebody's mind and like change the course of the timeline just by making little subtle nudges.

25:57So she's hinting at or he's hinting at an adjustment bureau type of situation that we're in right now. But in a non threatening way and then followed by that she says wingman, which maybe wingmakers are like they're the wingmakers. If they're time travelers, then they would essentially be like an adjustment bureau team adjusting the timeline. I didn't know just when bureau was a movie and I guarantee she didn't know that either or she would have sent something. So she was just like again, just proof she was writing these words down with no prior information on this. And just so you know our grandfather would all the time say, you know, this movie is not fiction. It's based on fact. I mean, he would point out like enemy of this state. He knows encounters of the third kind men in black like a contact. All these movies are are basically telling you what's going on. If you pay attention to it. So he was known to do that. I'm sure I guess somehow you knew to do the same here. Right. Exactly. So adjustment bureau, non threatening wingman wingmakers, circle of life. Ripley's believe it or not, which I find interesting.

27:04Like magic slide of hand illusion. Like this is stuff that shouldn't really exist. But it does. We're being like kind of fed a lie. I think you know, there's, there's, you know, a veil that's covering up what's actually happening. And then I think that's a handover. Maybe over. So that that is that county where we grew up in in Virginia, Hanover County right outside of Richmond. So we, that's what we could do is as we see these like random personal confirmations and validations that he puts into a lot of these messages. They'll show up every once in a while. And so it was just, it's, they're always scattered in there somewhere. Whenever she comes up, she comes up with the, you know, what she calls the military to talk or whatever those new words are. And then it's like there's a validation in there hidden in there to confirm that it's it's it's him. And then there's also go ahead over German original Hanover is Germany knows if there's a connection to there. Well, what I find interesting is right after Hanover, she has escape.

28:10So it either or could be true. Like Hanover, Virginia, like maybe there's something going on there that he had to escape from or Germany, which there's no question he was involved with something in some capacity with the Germans were doing. And the paperclip scientists, I think that all comes into play. He had a tour of duty in Germany. We actually got that from his Air Force record. They gave us his word. He was at. And we've had others, other sources independently say that supposedly he might have, you know, but he was involved and he regretted, but being a part of project paperclip and actually trying to figure out how to put these Nazis into, you know, the US community because that's what was happening. You know, obviously with the Von Braun and everyone else coming with it. Yeah, that's really interesting. So then Dina says, this is a side note. I thought I would flip it and ask him a question. So I asked him if he was in MJ 12, just to see what will come through.

29:11He showed me a badge where he showed me the belt buckle. Maybe the belt buckle was, was him referring to a badge. And I thought it was a belt buckle. Of course, he wouldn't wear a badge for MJ 12. You know, this is kind of like her thinking out loud, but. But it could be his way of saying yes, like maybe MJ 12, they don't wear a badge, but they have a belt buckle that indicates that they're a member, maybe. And since when she's had multiple instances where MJ 12 has come up and it's like confirming like yes, yes, yes. The one thing, one time that came up, I think it was one of the first times when she just, I mean, she didn't even know what MJ 12 was at the time. She was laying down on the couch and she could feel like he was coming to her and she was kind of laying there and she put on her phone just to record the audio and she spoke what was coming through. And it was like a 40 minute session and she, you know, she started, she transcribed it all later. But when it gets to him saying MJ 12, she heard, and you can hear it in the video.

30:15There's a sound in her fireplace like a banging sound that she has no idea what it was. She's never had any sounds in her fireplace in the years that she's lived at her house. It was completely random, but it was like these little, and there was another during that session, there was another one I forget what was around, but something significant when that came up that that is, you know, I think it was. Well, place and at the same time it made that sound so well. Yeah, so what's interesting too is we just interviewed Charles McNeil who talked about 12 MJ 12, like really running the show on his planet and letting the illuminati take the hit. Take the fall for everything that they're doing, which kind of makes sense in a way. Obviously there's going to be a fall guy and the illuminati is just as complicit as well, but there obviously would be a higher hand at play. So, and he says that Charles McNeil said that, you know, MJ 12, their ultimate plan is essentially like for our highest good, but it's a horrible plan to get there.

31:15And obviously that may not be accurate, but he he stressed like it's a horrible plan. And these people are sick, you know, by just their mentality of how they think things should be going. They probably think it's good. Yeah, it doesn't mean it's actually good. Exactly. So, but the very first word she heard after MJ 12 after the belt buckle thing was reckless behavior was the first word I heard after I asked him. He was if he was in and to a MJ 12 parentheses interesting. And then he said another. Oh, sorry, no, keep going. Go ahead. Yeah, no, jump in anytime. He was I think in other notes that she had basically said that when he found when they when he found out what they were doing. He was, you know, disgusted and this couldn't believe it. And I think I tied to Antarctica and another section or something underground there somewhere. Yeah, we'll get into that coming right up. So I think after that says recycle information, notable credibility, bystander, meaning like he, I feel like he was more of a bystander instead of being complicit in whatever it was.

32:26Yeah, there was another time. 12 came up in another one. It was about like oversight. Like he was kind of outside looking in kind of trying to, I don't know, trying to do something with them or control something with them, something like that. Yeah. And one more thing to note is that when you get to that level, obviously, you know, we think of 12 the same day 12. Maybe I've heard or seen research for it. It's obviously grown in number or there's other members like the Jason members that are, you know, both military and the scientific community. And they are also tied in at that level. So there's maybe up to 30 or so. And our grandfather always said there's only 25 people in the world that know things at this level when he was involved back then. Right. Either way, it's a small number of people that have the whole scoop, the whole scope, real quick. That's interesting that he said 25 because there's multiple insiders that are on record for saying a number around that number saying roughly 30 or 25 or 33 people are at the top of the pyramid that are fully in the knowing and control.

33:42It's important to note because he, and he also said that in video at the, it was the original footage of the disclosure project with Dr. Greer before they went to the hearing. Like all the video footage that they put out will be said that and he was, he did say that back in like 2000. So was that long ago that he's yeah. So there you go. Yeah. And even Q hinted at, well, Q said less than 10 people actually like no, but that might have been specifically pertained to that operation. Right. So, okay, so recycle information, notable credibility, bystander, innocent until proven guilty. He is showing him washing his hands, like washing his hands of something physically saw that saying it was done. He saying he was done with the military bullshit and lies. He got out or he wanted out. So he saw the corruption. And she said, I think, I think he wanted out. But she was, she wasn't for sure.

34:44And we've shared this before on our, on our channel, but our grandfather, you know, being part of this closure project with Dr. Greer back in 2001. Obviously, he wanted to disclose information and that was his main message in his book. Also, but he was in Washington, DC after, you know, when they were giving their testimony. He was the only witness that was there that froze up when he was a certain to speak. He just got really bad energy. He told my mom he wanted to leave for the weekend. He left before all the events were done and he wanted to get out of there and it was definitely, you know, that anxiety of the fear of what not knowing what he should or should not say. And he definitely wanted to spread the wording and put the message out there. But there was a lot of pressure to keep the secrecy. And we have, I mean, we have, I mean, there are pictures of him. It's just important to know this because just like at that time, he seemed pretty healthy when he came to visit some Virginia because we lived in Virginia.

35:46And then my mom said, I got to take your, you know, pop up up to this, this, this conference, some events over the weekend or whenever it was the next couple days. But he seemed healthy. I have a picture of him with my graduation outfit because I was a graduate high school. And he looked fine. He's smiling. He's happy. When you see him at the disclosure project, clearing within the same week, I mean, it looks like he aged dramatically or something, something happened. He just doesn't seem all there as coherent as he was and just out of it. And he's sitting behind Clifford Stone in that other picture. So we have that and we'll show that in our presentations later. But that's just important to note. It's like somebody must have been trying to stop him from speaking the scene. I think Dina kind of got a similar hit. Like it was more organic. What happened and why he didn't talk. So there's, I think there's another part to this page. But I'm just going to start reading this one.

36:46And so Madagascar again comes up. Rebuild technology, hand over German Reich. Peace treaty. So he's talking about, okay, rebuilding something. Technology, German Reich, peace treaty. Don't know what that says. She has a question mark. Whatever London, Daniel Prodigy, loving kind beings play fair. We did not play fair as in they, as in the ET's did. Meaning, okay, so we humans weren't playing fair. Maybe the way I took that in this, in this agreement. Is that how you would read that or did you guys get something else out of that? That's kind of what I got because, I mean, in his book, he talks about, you know, how the government has, you know, persistently tried to get atomic weapons in space and every time the ET's have stopped them.

37:48And kind of going against what they've told us about it. Right. So in the course, there's one, when you say ET's are more than one and there's more than one agreement. Like, you know, Eisenhower was like duped into thinking one thing, yeah, back then. And also, yeah, I think it depends on which part we're talking. Sounds like there was some sort of tree that was a peace tree that was trying, it was being made in Germany. They had to do with technology. And there was kind of loving beings, ET's involved, but we didn't play fair. Basically, it's kind of what I'm getting from that. And then, um, let's skip that part. And this is a separate, um, separate notes, combat escort, reality in time, whatever that means, higher mission, nonstop interference, raise your vibration. Madagascar again, 11 override parallel universe.

38:50I think that's interesting. Parallel universe comes up. Um, raise your vibration parallel universe. Another thing that came up a lot, yeah, reality, time, space, reality or something, something along those lines kept coming up a lot consistently. I think he's trying to tell us, like, there's another universe involved. There's other dimensions involved. Like he said earlier with the wing maker stuff. Um, so then, yeah, override, override, maybe override the illusion. So we can access the parallel universe by raising our vibration. Get on the high timeline. Right. Something. Yeah. Sound off sky jump, reconnaissance mission, power up. So that's interesting. Friendly enemy, which could be taken a number of ways. Keep your friends close, your enemies closer, which is kind of what we're seeing with the whole, like Trump, and what's been going on with that entire movie, essentially. Um, yeah.

39:50Then war of the world's elevation 11, 11 keeps coming up. And I don't know. Did you guys get any insight on what 11 could mean? Um, my only thought it was maybe it was a personal thing. Because my was most married on November 11, 2011, 11, 11, 11. Oh, interesting. So it could have been another validation. But war of the world also came up multiple times in different sessions as well. Right. So there's. There's this one, this part I found really interesting. And this is something we kind of like bounced off each other whenever I was there in LA. Mind craft. Like the game. Um, kids underneath. Telescope. So what Dina saw and she, she expanded on this when we were there. She said something that people, this game that people are playing is actually directly affecting kids that connected to some sort of like MK Ultra device, like in a headset.

40:55So the game is actually the game that they're playing is like the MK Ultra program that is connected to these kids on the ground. And it's, it's directly related, which I thought was like I was getting chills. I'm like, that's what's happening. It makes sense in a weird way and like a weird sick way. But so they can just like the whole plan. It's like buying this game and playing this game. But somehow it's directly programming these kids or has something to do with the programming mind control. That was interesting to me. I always thought it interesting that so many people love the game. Like I know, I know it's a pretty neat game. You can kind of create your own world. Like I don't, I don't see the, I don't see what's so. Right. All aren't like capturing. They want to play it. But it seems he's like a dicting, I guess. Yeah. She was very adamant that it was directly related to kids on the ground that game. Somehow or another. Then she put telescope.

41:56Hand writing or passing baton again. Passing the mission to the boys. You guys wingmakers come up again. Inside the cave with the baton showing me wingmakers things flying out of the top of the mountain. And then again nonstop interference recollection. Brazeman type of metal handed over rules tyranny Madagascar. Development then saw an image of an egg. A craft, which is interesting because we have that egg craft that this was before this was. June 30th. This is before we got disclosure of this egg shaped craft. So she saw an image, a development, like a developing story. So an image of an egg craft. Reaching heights. Phenomenon telescope recon mission. A recon mission was kind of. I think maybe telescope means like zoom in like pay focus on this maybe.

43:00And this like recovering this egg craft might have been a recon mission. Obviously it's they had they knew it was there. Liver die and there's a lot of like information about the being that was inside that allegedly was killed. And there he was like interrogated and all the stuff. I mean, I don't know how true all that information is. But this could be like forced foreshadowing of what we're seeing. Anemosity antartica, which was also interesting because the tiktok information this information kind of came on came out on tiktok. And specifically this being that came from this egg was allegedly interviewed in Antarctica. And like the audio audio was leaked that was specifically an Antarctica. So she's talking about the egg recon mission liver die. Anemosity antartica. A temple treason counter action counter intuitive like so this it's just these are all like little subtle like words describing.

44:03I think what we're seeing happening right now. He keeps pointing to watch like there is a timeframe clock is ticking. I see this a lot in his messages, but this felt super crucial. And I don't know if she meant like to what's the date on that one. This June 30th. 2024. And then she sought levitation mind over matter. Then thank you. Two thumbs up he gave her. Yeah, that's like it's signal she'll see that a lot. What he's he's confirming something or validating something. Right. Yeah, I mean this. Go ahead. The other thing to note was yeah, he'll say write this down like like he's he's like a pen signaling her to write something down. It's important or like him like at one point. I think more recently now it's like him trying to go through like he said at a desk hunched over like going through a bunch of papers trying to find the right paper find a part important document.

45:13I think that's a signal that there's some stuff in the stores that we still need to find. That's really important. Yeah, specifically when it for when this first started. I don't know if you have a document there, but he very vividly described the storage unit at my house where I have. I brought my all my mom's old stuff from New Mexico and had a bunch of his files and boxes and things from him. That's been in there and she described the keypad exactly to open the gate and how the gate would open. And the lock the locks on the storage unit and everything like in very very much a lot of detail and I did. I didn't even have any conversations about any of the stuff. It was it was pretty mind blowing. Yeah, that's amazing. Yeah, she told me she's like just go. She's like I told Dan just go cut the lock like get those files out like he wants you guys to get the work. Yeah, well, I mean, if there's ever a time to like start taking this stuff seriously, it's right now.

46:15I mean, I've been putting so much energy into the what we do in the podcast and social media and everything I'm trying to get my book done. Like this is why I came here like I'm just like it's it's go time. I'm kind of you know, it's a lot, but I feel the pressure to do it not like pressure in a bad way, but it's like I'm getting the nudge like yes, like keep this energy going. It's this is helping you know, so. And then this was August 1st, August 11th. His response to Daniel's question on why Dayton Ohio was coming into his field so much. Do you mind if I read this because I think it's interesting. Right away showed me a beam of light shooting up from a base into the sky and then I saw a craft falling as if the beam of light was shooting the craft down on purpose. Then he showed me two deep underground bases, the upper base, those still underground was also a top secret base with need for a high level clearance.

47:17Then he showed me a base even further down that I believe only very few know about. I saw grays working there nothing negative feeling when I saw them the lower base was even more top secret. I think grandpa would visit this base on a semi regular basis. Also, she saw drugs into lowest base to maybe like drug trafficking. And that fur from what we to cipher that was right, Patterson Air Force base, which is near Dayton Ohio where they have. Yeah, she had no idea that base was there. She had no idea what was in Dayton, but that was the main thing at Dayton, right? Yeah, we're multiple people have said that's where they have, you know, they take the crash retrievals and the. Right, right, Patterson. Yeah, yeah. And yes, she kind of goes on and talk about that a little bit and she says he showed me craft circling the base. I believe ET's watch that base. I heard loud noises in the kitchen at this time, usually validation on what I'm hearing.

48:17So kind of like he said at the fireplace stuff. No. I don't even know if I've read this one yet, but maybe I'll read it and see what happens through here. I saw grandpa in a suit. He was standing with a man and I could only see their back. Back sides grandpa had a dark suit on and the man he was standing next to was darker than grandpa's. The man had short dark hair grandpa was putting in paying him on the back as in a good job. Feeling was they both had accomplished something together. We did it was my feeling. I was then showing a UFO being pulled out of the water to ocean with a war with large rusty chains. The boat was huge, but I didn't see or feel military. A large crane was pulling it out. Then I was shown the void. I did not know what it was then after learning more. I know now that it is what he was showing me not sure why he was showing this. I believe he teaches me as well as why I'm showing things. Okay, but that's just like a more of a personal note.

49:18But it's interesting like pulling this recovery this craft out of the water with the chamber. It wasn't military, which is the private sector, you know, obviously he's clandestine groups. Him, you know, congratulating the guy like they accomplished something. Like when I hear that when I kind of feels like it resonates with the couple of the different their sources that we've had. One who actually channeled him directly as well in a session and was telling us that he was involved in, you know, route back engineering the UFO technology and trying to figure it out with this team. And they eventually had to start communicating with the ETs to figure out because they were hidden roadblocks on how to really get this technology to work. And so that was a lot of the projects that he was on as what you was saying that he was involved with. So that kind of ties into what Dina had here. And also some of the other information that people came forward with about him. Right. Yeah, I think that's really interesting.

50:20Without a doubt, he will place personal information in all his messages so that the boys will know that the information is valid. And, you know, she kind of goes into a little more personal stuff. But then she said he also showed me an underground train in a base, the fast one. I asked him about that's personal. So I won't say that. And then this one just says wormhole plate universe black metal plate. She was seeing like this black metal plate wormhole. She's she's your son fractals bounce them back particleization absorbs energy into the field. How we transport become the fractals Daniel will understand. It's like flipping a switch electricity turning on universe runs on it. So that's interesting talking about the particleization of time travel, I think. And that's that's what he talks about in his book wave to mass mass to wave is the basis for the time travel.

51:22And I don't know she's read the book since all this started, but a lot of the information I don't think she had read it when that one was there. It was just recently that she got a copy of it. Yeah, I mean, she has notes everywhere, unsure what this is question mark like she doesn't she just writing it down drawing stuff. You know, it's very interesting to see all of it. So then this was August 2024. This is when he said write, write this down. This is what she heard write this down polarity marksman indigenous. He showed me him. He shall be him smoking a piece pipe within laughing. Yeah, this is just kind of more personal validation stuff for you guys. And he did have a native American ties when he lived in in Thai New Mexico. He has Indian blood in him, I think Cherokee, but he was very much into going to the sweat lodges and being a part of the ceremonies that they had there.

52:29Well, what's also interesting is whenever I stay with that guy that quantum physicist in Sedona who worked 40 years for the shadow government. He claimed that the guys in his program had to go train with the aboriginals and the indigenous people all over the world in order to run their way so they can basically unlock their true potential. What humans can already do, we just been suppressed or it's been suppressed. So basically he had to stay with them until he learned how to teleport his physical body so he can teleport inside the, you know, the crash retrieval UFOs because they couldn't get in because they don't have doors. So it's interesting like in it wasn't just him, it was like all their top guys would spend time with the indigenous tribes learning their ways because like that's that's how you unlock the secrets right. Yeah, yeah, and no doubt he knew about remote viewing and that stuff. Yeah, so it wouldn't make perfect sense to me if he's spending time with the indigenous tribes because that's what this other guy told me.

53:31He said I had to go train with nine months for nine months with the aboriginals in Africa, Australia and Easter Island and he basically couldn't come back until he knew how to teleport his physical body, which he learned how to do. Okay, so going on, this is September 9th, 2024, 918 p.m. Anarchy, plagiarism, conflict, desires, mental health, commander in chief, war, validate, nonsense, guide, resurrection, awareness. That kind of feels to me, so September, this is right before the election, I feel like this is specifically talking about that. I think she was kind of get like information like real time about what's happening with this commander in chief, mental health, war, nonsense, you know, resurrection, like this is basically like the resurrection of the country right now. You know, that's just the way I see that.

54:38So this is actually, honestly, this, this message here, I was reading through him this morning and this was actually perfectly time for me as well. Oh, so that's interesting resurrection, she says, then I heard him say 912 and then resurrection again, his death date was 912. I believe he was telling me that he is resurrected clearly still here. And then the messages she heard believe manifest love is the journey relax all in time. I think that's like wisdom beyond time right believe manifest love is the journey relax all in time. Like that's powerful. I actually needed it's simple as that was I really needed to hear that this morning for something that just happened where I was losing patience or you know something and it's like, I was like, okay, just believe manifest relax love.

55:39Yeah, that one been a lot to do. Yeah, and actually continues is don't lose hope it's coming piece from wars timeline shift beautiful world unity equals love love is the lesson breathe it will be okay. Commander then saw she saw him salute forever grateful heal the sick. So that's really powerful like that's really powerful stuff. And that when you said 912, I was just thinking that could be like resurrection after 912 is another way to look at that. Yeah, I mean any of this stuff can be interpreted any number of ways, which is kind of the beauty of it, I think. This is September 7th, so this was a couple days before that grandpa showed me particleization again, he shows me that often almost like he is teaching me. He said it is how I went up and out the window that I was still awake and conscious during the first few minutes of my abduction, he said time travel and teleportation, I think he's saying out of these things.

56:51Oh, I think he's saying all these things require particleization time travel and teleportation, which is yeah, particleization or what they call molecular dissociation. It's like all on the same right. Essentially, you know, you hope you have to like dematerialize basically in order. Yeah, yeah. He said jumpstart and article program, I believe in parentheses that I am still learning slowly, but surely I believe he had to do with and Antarctica and shows me that a lot. And she said, I then asked him, can you tell me as truth, I don't know what that means, I asked him, what can you tell me as the truth. And she said, then I heard I was in majestic 12 overseas, oversight, maybe oversaw majestic 12, he keeps saying pirates pirates party comes to eventually find out after singing for a week, it was a redemption song by Bob Marley.

58:07That was a personal one for me because she, so she had this, that came through, I think it was on a Thursday, I was at this retreat that weekend and she didn't tell me about any of that. She didn't mention anything about the pirates or anything until that Sunday and that night before I had, I was sitting around a campfire. Do you know how to guitar? Do you not play any Bob Marley? And I played my redemption song, which is one of my mom's favorite songs that I used to play all the time. And the first line of that is old pirates, yes, they're obvious, you know, the pirate thing. When she told me that, that's where he came through at the same time, the pirate, the party where I was at and playing the music. Wow. The timing of it was that they came through, then I played the song and then I didn't find out about it until afterwards. That's pretty amazing. It actually kind of like really just brings us all home, I think.

59:09Like the fact that you're getting those validations in the middle of all this stuff and makes us take the other stuff a little more seriously, you know. And she said that a lot of this has gone, as a lot of the compromises have been related to my brother more than me. But maybe like now she thinks that well, we're communicating a little bit more and so I might get more validations as we go. But just says on an overall note, whenever she mentions Majestic 12 and like that whole aspect of him being involved, that's still one of the hardest things for me to be like, is that impossible? The book, all this stuff, I mean this whole, this whole message is amazing and his story is amazing, but it's still like I'm still trying to wrap my head around it. I think we still have to really, you know, take a step back and just see the bigger picture, but it's a lot to take in sometimes. So we're just, it's not like we all take it for granted, I think it's just kind of mind blowing every day. I agree, but I think I wouldn't rule that out, absolutely not.

1:00:14And okay, so this is the October 11, 2024 where she's talking about where you mentioned earlier about him being in the cave and putting his hand on the wall. I can read through this, I guess we can't talk about bothers read through this interesting. I instantly saw Grandpa in a cave with his right hand lean up against the cave wall. He was showing me he was receiving energy from the cave walls, then saw both hands on the walls as he was gone and he was gone. My feeling was the cave was a portal. It felt like a different dimension. He just showed me Daniel going through his book and the end pages where the Wingmaker chapter is. Then he showed me one of those cardboard boxes and more Wingmaker papers in one of them. I mean, is that a cardboard box that was in storage, maybe? Yeah, yeah, and I have found in one of the boxes. I guess there was a manuscript before he published his book about the Wingmaker, the stuff that he had on League Makers.

1:01:14So I'm curious to see if there's more. I still need to, there's a lot to go through. So I'm still searching actively searching. We need to have a box party or just bring him over and let's go through the files. Yeah, that would be awesome. Yeah, yeah, that would be fun. She saw him bow. I think maybe that says bow in the cave like honoring someone was a paramanda. I don't know and could could mean. She was at this spiritual alignment place where they had paramanda and a lot of new equipment stuff there. And what would it happen? So, okay. So it is interesting, though, being in a cave. Yeah, I that resonates definitely. Keep hearing grandpa says that the Wingmaker caves are teleportation systems. You can, you can time travel from in them showing me how you can go to different dimensions. Or they are different dimensions once you enter them. That's interesting. He also said that there are many more caves even more than the government is saying the government knows where they are.

1:02:19They have known for a very long time, centuries, three in New Mexico, three in New Mexico have something after that. Also show me that there were some in Australia, not share how many I feel like he was in one of their as well in one there as well all over the globe. He said the cave systems are like the pyramids. They were used for teleportation, etc. Resonates entirely. I mean, it would make sense why we have a global grid. And this is how they traveled. And, you know, yeah, pretty well. The government uses these caves. Wingmakers were are angel types of ET's. They were our higher vibrational beings, good-hearted, helpful to humanity. Found more caves in the 1960s when grandpa was alive, he says. Grandpa said the government could not understand the cave systems, even majestic 12 could not understand how to work them.

1:03:21Only certain people could use them. Grandpa was one of them. I believe grandpa was trained by ET's and his whole life. He also showed me an orb craft like the tic tac. I have footage of in my backyard. He showed me an orb craft going through the tunnel system in the caves. At first, I thought it was moving through the cave systems. I later realized he was showing me the orb craft going through a portal looked like a black hole. Then I heard time space reality again. So this is all fascinating stuff to me. When you find that one YouTube that he did, the only one we found really, that was that you helped us with the audio of it. And it's as Portuguese subtitles. Well, he does mention the portal systems and the NASCO lines and the police, the Mayan police having the technology. But it's the one time I remember in the video where he just kind of like he stops dead in his tracks and he's just like, all right, I can't talk about that anymore. Let's move on.

1:04:22Because he knew it's getting into the stuff that still was not talked about back then. At least like nobody talked about it. Right. Here's what I'm looking for there. There's a whole bunch more. Wow. We don't have to go through all these, but there was one in particular I wanted to go through. Yeah, here it is. Okay. So you guys good to keep going? Everybody happy with this? I mean, it's just fascinating to me to go through all this. Okay. This was May 29th. So this is going back. Like right after the conference, actually interesting. All eyes on rhetorical, set the precedent, builder, bird jumpstart, NWO, time space, reconnaissance mission, black opt, black opt project. Cuped ear like listen, saw visual. War of the world saw him scanning the desk. Here it is. Here it is pointing at the paper date on the paper was a 25th in the saw 1978 and a stamp on it.

1:05:22Saw grandpa hand rehanding red roses, then showed me. Pointing to his wedding finger as a sending roses to his beloved in real time, in real time. Bunker to royal field. This is just her notes. Consciousness, lack of consciousness, majestic 12 fireplace noise. Melty pot, netty, oh, netty pot, netty pot. Yeah, yeah, that's weird. Time space reality. I wonder. Like a netty pot is like to clear out your signage passions, right? But it also like complete to circuit. I wonder like like that could also represent like time travel to. I don't know in a weird way. I feel like. Uping into your pineal gland. Maybe or something. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe the netty pot will help clear that out. Time space reality. Don't know what word, what that says. Majestic 12 again.

1:06:23Then seeing grandpa saluting as if yes, I was part of the MJ 12 by feeling always. Aerospace February 25th military. I saw grandpa shooting into the sky like he was a rocket not sure the meaning of that. But I saw him flying Cosmo clearance retractable investigate saw. Rock image again. Rocket image again. Namaste accent. So this is interesting Cherokee plagiarism. Does that say debunk Majestic 12 fortify communication underscore. So that's interesting. Namaste accent Cherokee plagiarism debunk Majestic 12 fortify communication underscore. When I saw Cherokee and plagiarism, I immediately thought how we basically stole. Our Constitution from the Cherokee, the Constitution of the Cherokee and the Irkwood Confederacy.

1:07:23Basically plagiarized their Constitution and made their own. And then something to do with Majestic 12 and I don't know fortifying communication. I just think there's something there that he's trying to tell us about what how this country, the inception of this country. Rapid fire piece treaty brigade primordial and then she said belt buckle again pertain possibly to the mday 12. And then unified or then she saw okay. Dusty not she saw grandpa dust enough flat folders looking inside them. Maybe those are what is in his storage unit. Nullification nullification unified fear mongers propulsion systems planetary alignment Nova Scotia real time anti gravity. When I saw Nova Scotia, I thought Oak Island like what's hidden on Oak Island.

1:08:23Like their like religious artifacts maybe technology. I definitely I've heard channelers say that there's like a like a deep underground military base there goes way deeper than the guys on the island even understand. And Sarah bestman Cosme through one of her QHT sessions saw that it was going to be generational discoveries like each generation is going to think that they've discovered the treasure. But then upon further investigation they're going to keep discovering it goes deeper and deeper and over time more. More technology and artifacts are going to be released as humanity is ready for them. So I found it really interesting that he specifically pointed out Nova Scotia with planetary alignment propulsion systems real time any gravity. So I think maybe something along like some sort of planetary alignment is going to determine when this stuff is actually discovered and has to do it the timing of it. And Nova Scotia has come up multiple times that's one of those ones that's been like Madagascar.

1:09:24And I was trying to decipher that for a long time what Nova Scotia was but that makes sense. That's the first thing I thought go ahead. Well, why is Trump so interested in Greenland now that's an interesting part of the whole region up there. So that's one thing but also in the other things we had Sherry did man on our show but we she also did a session with us individually me my brother and she said that what came through was our grandfather is on a big mothership on a ship he's still you know maybe in another reality obviously not physical physical but in another plane of existence he's in a ship and he's trying to help humanity but it was the ship over the east coast northern east coast like Nova Scotia area which is interesting. That that came over her yeah I mean why not at this point you know so then again I don't know what that says reconnaissance mission can't read the next word.

1:10:25Sign up nanotechnology invasive then I saw image of machines being placed in humans heads and electricity coming out of them as a testing on humans then I heard Nazis were doing it reenactment war the world heard again neuroscience labs government underground facilities conjunction with black projects weapons against humanity recon mission and they recon mission MJ 12 all eyes on which is interesting. Which is interesting because like when MJ 12 stamp their documents and magic eyes only you know no operations not sure what that means I think maybe she met like lunar operations like new operations command LLC again Nova Scotia tyrannical 1912 definitely something could have happened in Nova Scotia 1912 that we don't know about there is definitely a history there. What about the Titanic oh that the incident that that could be what's up and that's when the federal that started was after the Titanic went down then we have the Federal Reserve we have the money system that's been.

1:11:36That we're hopefully going to dismantle right now but that's been in control of you know. Right reasons why out up in all this but anyway yeah she goes on says Warner von Braun anti government Hitler freedom act real time again. Anti gravity recon mission. Majestic anti corruption longevity that's interesting then I saw craft flying around the planet the image of it feeling as ET craft and I saw beam of white. Big fig tree temperamental mastermind jump room plan exit holes in the ozone Pleiadians. Mister mco maybe a Pleiadian she thinks that she was seeing a specific Pleiadian project Camelot or cameo project cameo maybe she met Camelot.

1:12:36She didn't she didn't know it was but that's probably what what she's saying yeah project camelot industry wars mind over matter sensitive material war crimes. In their go back so go ahead. But you just yeah you mentioned holes in the ozone he had when I was a teenager one of those memorable things. My experiences going to see him when he started talking about UFOs one of the stories he told me was about. The Nazis doing atomic weapons testing in Antarctica creating holes in the ozone layer and. Yeah he could be that he said yeah and she I mean she didn't know that at all right which is I think they call it operation fishbowl or opera there's a couple different projects that actually we're doing that but fishbowl was one of them. And then she puts in a galactic contact friendly family cryo genetics Machu Picchu in bread Indians lord of the rings. Which I think lord of rings is a lot more to to it to it than we understand especially middle earth inner earth type of stuff.

1:13:42Painting canvas no picture she didn't know what to met German spies interdimensional beans time space reality transfer of consciousness left. Words waking up humanity. Yeah so the painting my mom is an artist and she has a lot of her paintings and our storage unit with all his files and like blank canvases and and she saw the images of that later on confirming you know that was when it tied us to the storage unit stuff interesting. I think we're coming we're getting here we're almost done here so that was that was the first that was that 40 minutes session that was like right after conference the first big download that she had. She had started having things come through even as she was leaving the conference that she was telling me about as she was traveling and then yeah that was the big one. And a lot of secretities that happened from the messages to kind of validate things like she gave her a date. It was before she she got home from the conference and it happened to be the same date that we had on a slide we were on doctor solace show.

1:14:48And she was watching it and she took a screenshot of it we're carrying a document and she had no idea what was what document was or what the date was even and she was texting me you know showing me she was watching her show. The date was the same date that he gave her like week before when she left the conference on it was his it was the date on the document of when he reinlisted or left retired from the military basically which. I think it's when he became an in our operative when he tried from the Air Force tonight 1968. And it was May 23rd was the date and that was the date that it was that May 23rd that was that was the day when she shared that information. Wow it's just kind of all these synchronities there's a lot of other synchronicities that that exactly through these messages like with my personal stuff for me that you know she's has no idea what she looks in California I live in Pennsylvania so. Right yeah that's pretty why okay so we're going to get to this last little part dolce bunker game over I think that says or.

1:15:54Do you know what i'm talking about yeah I think so okay dolce bunker game over time frame now which means the dolce base is probably you know being shut down game over. Enlisted and listed that can mean enlisted soldiers being she put love after that so the way I see it is like some of these people are going to need like love right we have to show them love whether they were involved in this like willingly or not I think a lot of people were blackmailed into these. Positions so I think we just need to remember they're like not everyone involved wanted to be there so that's why I think love is there and then we build infrastructure effortlessly time warp mankind rekindle love so love keeps coming up which is something I think that he. Understands like plays a key role probably just like probably a lot of healing obviously from all that's happening is on a ground basis and it's interesting that a lot it's coming out now that yeah they're dismantling these basis now or they have been.

1:16:56Right yep absolutely um okay bunker up then he showed me a submarine and article with Pleiadians also on the submarine feeling nice people mostly nice people in and and article in an article also meanies also meanies and they are trying to get rid of the meanies but get them out get them out grandpa knew the difference but played neutral toward both he was smart. Playing both sides grandpa couldn't stand the testing on children but people understood the rest for future advancement that's interesting grandpa showed me a black dog on a leash pulling him back like hunting him showing me how trained he was. He had a dog named blackie that when you're growing up that um that was the dog and that dogs came up a couple times I think but the testing on the children thing the um what you just said which she said around that about having had to do that the other person who channeled our grandfather in that one session I mentioned earlier she said that.

1:18:12So I'm mentioning about them having to contact the ETs to get further advancements to unlock the technologies that they were trying to reverse reverse engineer she said that deals had to be made where. They would give us the answer to the technology in return that they could. You know abduct children or something like that and um was kind of part of the deal that was made back then at the time well yeah. I mean this stuff is pretty fascinating that I mean that she's just getting all this stuff I think it's pretty amazing actually um then the next page continues submarines to aunt article bases they would be under water and then the submarine would submerge up would yeah some that's what she wrote would submerge would submerge up and they would get out in what looked like a. Military base. Grandpa feeling I the feeling I got was initially caught up in all of it all until later saw the disgusting truth of what really went on down there so that would make a lot of sense like if anybody any one of us were brought down an article and we're like holy cow this is amazing look at this underground bases like these ET tech but then you realize what's going on it would be disgusting this heartening so I feel like that's what happened.

1:19:33Um what blood type was grandpa saw him giving blood samples down under the base unsure but felt as if it were there. Whatever that means think I asked my mom I think she said he was which is like universal one right. Um there she said there were new civilizations there he may he made me feel but he was only able to see some of the base but new of the rest may have seen part of it they tested on him. Um why I saw him give blood but he was willing nothing invasive why he gave blood why was was there a higher purpose pure blood whatever talking about the blood. Um so he consented I guess to the testing offered up his blood but I find it interesting there were new civilizations there. Yeah so I mean there's a reason like Antarctica is the big you know best kept secret on this planet you know yeah so I'm just trying to go down there all the time.

1:20:42Right okay so that's it I mean we just kind of went through all that pretty quickly but you know anyone listening can decipher that on their own and they might have gotten some intuitive hits as well like oh wait did like they kind of missed that this is what he's talking about so if anybody has anything to say let us know. But this is all very fascinating stuff and I think it's kind of crucial right now the helping you know what like what did what they always say you have to mix science and spirituality like this is a perfect example of that. We have to be open to these concepts in this medium ship and like messages from the other side to fill in all the blanks that we're not going to find in documents. And this is this is kind of amazing it's it's like it's like an astral whistleblower like you know it's like we're still like he's literally blowing the whistle from the other side right now and it's like such a unique thing that's occurring and I think that it's really important what you guys are doing. And Aaron I know you've been kind of quiet at all time listening to me read all this but what are your thoughts on all this.

1:21:44Yeah I mean it's fascinating like he said he's like he's still being a whistleblower from the other side which is incredible and he's still on his mission even past his lifetime you know. And I think that's true for a lot of people I think they're even after they've transitioned from the physical they're still doing their mission whatever that is for them from the other side. If not even more so than they did when they were incarnated and I think he's massively doing that and helping with the shift and I think that's just one thing he's doing that she didn't just happen to pick up on him coming through which is amazing. But he's probably doing a lot more than that and that was all fascinating a lot of it even resonated with me and lined up with things I know. And the fact that there were so many personal things in there that only you guys would know.

1:22:44You guys would know just made it that much more powerful and legitimate because there's no way you can fake that right it's like the way she's the fake that or that it would just randomly come through right so. And I love how those personal validations are just peppered throughout randomly like it's all this military stuff and it's one little personal thing it's just like oh yeah and tell him this just so you like keeps paying attention. One other thing while you mentioned that one other thing he there's a page about just black parade and something about him wearing a black parade. Dean obviously didn't know anything about what that means and me and my brother didn't know that either we had to go back and ask our mom and then we found the VHS tape of him talking where he's wearing the black parade and our mom's like yeah he used to wear that all the time and so there's something he did within the military that had to do with that obviously. And there's there's if you do research on it there's like certain groups that are like paramilitary or do reconnaissance missions and stuff just depends that outside normal duties active duties yes so he was involved somehow that which is pretty cool another.

1:23:53Yeah yeah and what you said Aaron you know he's you know actively still pursuing his mission even from the other side that's aligned with what Sherry did ban told us when she did our soul reading type stuff sessions with us and yeah the other person who channeled him she at the very beginning of the session he very clearly said that we were not to disclose this person's name because of that. So if the potential consequences of she's kind of more well known and if she was found out that she had access to the information that he had it could be you know in danger her her her life. Yeah just yeah imagine all the remote viewing that's going on now now that's more popular and people that maybe have that ability to really tap into these bases and these people working on this stuff that's that's still very classified so it can be dangerous I'm sure yeah. But they also can't hide anymore it's like the jig is up it's over did they did the end of the rope and we're just going to find out inevitably it's coming through from the other side literally like if you're okay you're going to silence these people here like we're not done we're coming through everyone's their gifts are turning on their people are coming online and there's no did nothing literally nothing can stop what's coming not like they're going to find life finds away Jeff Old Bloom.

1:25:19Yeah and now and I'll just one final note for me is that because he didn't get to speak at the disclosure project in 2001 I mean it was because he was so scared for not for just his life but our lives like his family and we we know that now based on all that's come out so I've always felt obligated to get the truth out but even more so because we're trying to finish what he started so long ago and the time is now I mean we have to it's not a time to be fearful but a time to be bold. It's what he said in his book so you guys are carrying it on his legacy and you're on your mission so yeah and I couldn't I couldn't be yeah good job and I couldn't be happier to be a part of it to help like just helping like disseminate this information and even and just be involved with reading these notes and stuff and like I think it was super cool whenever he showed up and like put his hand on my head. I don't know how there's no words that can describe how real that was unless you're there and it happens to you but it was it was what I needed for me to focus on this and like read these notes and take them seriously and when I'm reading them I'm like oh this is amazing stuff this is exactly in line with everything I'm researching right now and all the stuff that's coming through so and he's just you know more pieces of the puzzle and we still like we're only kind of scratching the surface of what he's talking about I feel like more and more is just going to come.

1:26:47Be kind of clear and thank you so much for reading this because for me you know getting all these messages like I mean I have hundreds and hundreds of text messages from her in the moment it's very hard to perspective around it like what this all means and you know as you see happening but to hear you read through them and like I've had so many insights just in the last hour just listening to you that I hadn't had before so I really appreciate that and you kind of helping us with some of this deciphering for sure. Yeah yeah no it's fun actually fun to me I really I really enjoyed it I appreciate it and yeah so I guess we'll go ahead and start wrapping this up let everyone know where they can find a book and how they can follow you guys and you know hold my yards. Yeah so the book is life with the cosmos clearance and you can find that on Amazon and you can find us on our YouTube channel our shows called shred the veil our channel is clear thought CLR thought you look that up on YouTube but you'll see different discussions that we've had one in particular with Tony Rodriguez about the remote viewing that people did on on our grandfather as the target and even said that a lot of what when she watched that episode what what was coming through with the remote viewer.

1:28:00It was very much aligned with what she was she was sensing as well so just a lot of these validations from all these things that different sources that we've been bringing forward just I guess feeling the knowing validations that he's had for for me and Eric throughout this this medium ship in the last eight months it just helps me solidify my mind all these other sorts sorts that are cooperating similar things and really really just accepting that this this is really this is real. I think I can't I didn't even worry it's that there's no doubt in my mind you know yeah right yeah and yeah I mean it was it was really special to see you guys get up there on stage to and and present this information it was a very cool a lot a lot of people loved it because it was amazing yeah you guys knocked it out of the park yeah and anyone who's interested you can just scroll through our our rumble library and you can find that presentation I think I just called it life with the cosmos clearance rebels of disclosure twenty twenty five it's it's totally worth your time it really dies in deep into the material of the book and his life and some more personal things and oh yeah this is something I wanted to bring up I just remember there you told us the story whenever we came to Texas to film for the documentary and I don't know if you want to share this or not but it's it involves you being approached by the CIA and is that something that you want to

1:29:28feel comfortable sharing yeah I said it before it's fine but yeah it was just a weird thing that happened and I was I was looking for work anyways so maybe they knew I was intentionally trying to find a job but it was I was still eligible in the age range I don't think I am now to be once you get past your mid 30s or later so like you basically are looking for like an operations officers what they call it and you go to whatever country your train forever many you years it's a whole screening process but like it was just a very strange thing to have a phone call and somebody say we're from the CIA and I'm I'm just a recruiter trying to see if you're interested and and if you're right for the job she said and this was a woman probably to try to peak my interest more so she's like go to the live local library don't buy anything with your credit card buy with cash but buy these two books to discuss like how what how it is being in the CIA and all that and what good pros and cons anyway a couple conversations later on the phone and it's like I think they found out maybe it wasn't cut out because I think they they're they're screening you as they're taking the phone call like how you answer the questions and I think they are trying to figure out am I good enough

1:30:43liar am I good enough to be a good liar in the CIA I was like I know I'm terrible at that like I want to talk I like the truth more than anything so just by like the way I answer the the some of the questions I'm truly probably knew it but I think they wanted to see if I really wanted to push to get in or are you use that as a way to shut me up to knowing that maybe I'd be coming out and wanting to talk more so I target target people who have family members that have been in there like a father grandfather one of the first interviews we ever did on Shred the Veil was with a guy who had been recruited into the CIA because his dad was an agent and he didn't know about that until he was as much older but he went through the whole training thing before he he had to get out he was too much for him on but he got to see and in realize you know there's a lot of family ties that get you in there when they act to really retrieve you yeah yeah no coincidence I think really quick I just that's not an accident like they if you had taken the bait then you wouldn't be here doing this interview right now

1:31:45guarantee right no right they they own you for life once you're angry on you you're in no I think that's more validation that he was a part of that more higher level obviously Clandestine stuff because he wasn't just Air Force he was more than more than that so it makes sense right yeah absolutely well this has been fascinating guys you're welcome to come back to the conference any of the previous speakers get a free pass the next year so come on out you don't have to pay anything if you feel like hanging out and just having a good time we'd love to see you there catch up and anybody who's listening tickets are available journey to truth that online we always have fun and we hope to see you there yeah thank you guys yeah and we would love to make it I don't think I can with the schedule this year that I'll make it to your conference but we're doing an online thing March 8th or March 10th through 12th I think with Neil Guar because he does the online stuff so we managed to get on books with that so that that's coming up portal to ascension you can look that up and then maybe we might actually do the disclosure now a conference in July

1:32:49if that works out so yeah yeah I'm actually I'm excited that James Bartley's coming from Australia for that one that's cool like it's a rare yeah rare and he does not normally do that yeah so I'm I'm excited that he's gonna make the trip it'd be cool to meet him but yeah that's another one coming up in July yeah full disclosure now and in St. Pete Florida so go check that one out I think just full disclosure now.com I'm not sure the actual website but yeah that's another one coming up there's a lot of conferences nowadays you know it kind of gets oversaturated but you know we're just trying to like keep this stuff going and now's the time so anything you're drawing towards I would just say pull the trigger and do it because it is life changing every time seven for sure all right well thank you guys so much this has been a blast and I hope we did this due diligence I think people are gonna enjoy this honestly so thank you thank you so much for this it was great yep yep all right thank you guys all for being here we love you can't do

1:33:51this without you until next time have a great evening