EP 324 | David Icke | The Great Unknown - What We Don't Know

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1:23Hey guys, welcome back to the show. So we're just going to jump right to the chase today. We're very excited to have David Ike with us today. A man who needs no introduction. He's been at this for decades now, and this is a big moment for us. We're very happy to have you here with us, David. And you've been exposing these agendas for 30 years now. And a lot of what you've talked about is coming to fruition. You know, the stuff that you got ridiculed about in the early days is happening. And there's a lot of truth there's out there that are just now discovering this stuff. And they think it's all new. But you know, you've been you've been covering this stuff. You were way ahead of the game in a lot of ways. So we're excited to just dive in and uncover this anti-human agenda and this order out of chaos and all this stuff. And you know, the reptilian side of things. And also like the reptilians in the astral realm. There's a lot of stuff I'd like to cover. But you just told us about some breaking news that just happened. Maybe we could start with that. But welcome to the show.

2:24We're very happy to have you here. Thanks, mate. Yeah, it's kind of kind of quite surreal to see breaking news and bombshell revelations that were in my books like 20 years ago or more. But I'm glad that it's coming out obviously to more people. And you know, what I've said over the years is when I've said, look, I predicted this. It was in my books. And you know, I said this would happen. I'm not been saying that over the years. And I don't say it now for, hey, look at me. I like good. You know, I was there. It's it's this simple equation. If I could predict it, it must be a plan. Right. If if you know, I'm not been sitting in a dark and room pulling this out of the ether. What bit here and there. But I mean, it's supported by a tangible name,

3:26states, places, people, evidence. And therefore, it must have been planned. Because, you know, this, what's the chances of predicting APCD, FG, and it coming right by pure random accident? Right. It's a plan. And therefore, what is the plan and where's it meant to go? And what I'm doing now in a book that's just come out called the reveal is going deeper in the rabbit hole than I've ever been before. To really see where this plan is going and where it's planned to go. And where it comes from. That's the point. One of my problems with the, what I think is the hijacked alternative media, the mainstream of it, where people have come out of the mainstream and suddenly taken over. And they're all the superstars of this arena. My problem is that they are focusing purely on right-wing politics.

4:33And of course, religion's thrown in as well, increasingly. And that is a level of politics is a level, it's a way that the conspiracy plays out. It's not the sort of thing. Right. It's the puppet show level. The real stuff's using that, right? It's the source of it that I've been looking for all these years. And I'm, you know, I'm getting closer to it. But, you know, the one thing you know, which can't be questioned, is whatever you think you know, there's always more to know. And that's what the basis I work on. And that keeps pushing you on and on and on. Because you're always asking, okay, well, I think I've got this. But what don't I know? And it's the, what don't I know that pushes you deeper and deeper in the rabbit hole? Right. So without sugar code in anything, what do you think, you know, as far as who is actually running the show? And, you know, we can talk about off-world entities, you know,

5:36non-human interference stuff like that as well. Because I think it all stems from something like that. Yeah, well, it's a massive story. And this is, you know, when I started out in 1990 on this, my 35th year, there was no alternative media to exist. And I, just a few disparate individuals, that's all it was, putting this stuff out as best they could. And it was, in those days, it was really this world stuff, if you like. It was all the secret societies and how they interlock and all the control of politics, not by prime ministers and presidents, but by something much deeper in the shadows. And it was all that going on. And then gradually, things started to emerge in terms of an alternative media. And I was delighted because it's like, whoa, you know, we might have a chance here because more and more people are seeing this.

6:36And the frustration is that that awakening to the source, we're not necessarily the source, the real source of this, but to a greater source of this, was building a building to the point where people started to see we're living one party states and that left-right politics is, as you'd say, the puppet show. And then we had COVID, and it was just an absolutely wonderful opportunity, because people had this conspiracy point in their face. And as I said at the time, these people have entered the room where we could see them, or at least one level of them has. The level like, yes, yes, swabs and your gates isn't such like. And I remember going on marches through London in protest at the restrictions, the COVID restrictions.

7:40And it started off, there were very, very few, and the police were picking them off, because there weren't many. But in the end, it was hundreds of thousands of people walking through the streets of London. And the police were just standing on the side that they could do. And what I remember about it, what was so different about it, is that there was this incredible unity between people. People of different religions, different faiths, different cultures, even different political belief systems, I'm sure. But there was a unity, a unity of purpose to focus upon that, which affect in all of us. And I thought, well, we got a chance here. And then this group of people that moved in from the mainstream media overwhelmingly, not all of them, but many of them. And they basically caused the alternative media at the central core.

8:42I mean, you know, outside of that, people like me and you and so many others doing fantastic stuff, and I have minds that will go and seek out what's actually happening. But at this central core, where they get the algorithmic support, they get the financial support massive, actually, it seems, but breathtaking, some of the stuff has come out the last few weeks. And the promotion, it's caused a regression from even the one party state to right wing politics. And we used to have this thing years ago, which was always talked about when it came to elections, the Christian right. And basically, the alternative media has become the Christian right, if you look at the central core of it. And the reason that I have, you know, called this out is because if we stay there,

9:43if we stay in this myopia, what we've done is move from the belief that it's all a random to actually, yeah, it is at the political level and financial level, it's manipulated and the deep state and all that stuff. But actually, that's just one level of it. You've got to really open your mind to get further and further and further and further in the rabbit hole, which is where not only can we get a fix on the scale of what's going on, that's where we get a fix on what we can do about it from a much more deep, deep level of consciousness and what people call spirituality. So that's what I've been doing this past 35 years. Once I've thought, okay, I've got this, I think I've got this. Obviously, there's more to know about everything. But what

10:45don't I know? And that's taken me on an extraordinary journey because I've just gone more and more in terms of an expanded view of this with each step. And, you know, I saw a quote recently, which talked about, you don't, you know, you don't awaken, well, you don't. None of us is awake. You can't be at the situation we're in. We're awakening. Some are awakening more than others. But this quote was talking about the fact that you go through a series of awakenings. And so the first one is Presidency Prime Minister has done rather well. So who does? And if you, you know, kind of stop there, then you're missing everything else. And so it's a series of awakenings. And the awakening is really a deprogramming. It's deprogramming from the perceptual

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15:01when did this start? And you go back into ancient history and you see how this global cult was emerged until it was global. And you realize that there has to be a coordinating force that's coordinated this. Because these people being born, they play their part in advancing this cult with gender in the secret societies. And then they die and then others come in, the next generation do it. So there has to be a coordinating force that spans all these, all these generations and literally thousands of years. And that's when I started coming across in, but the mid 1990s, the fact that there were non-human entities operating outside of human sight that were actually manipulating human society for their own ends. And this global cult was basically representing

16:02within the human world their interests and their agenda. And then I started to look at the nature of reality, what is it? And you can't understand the conspiracy without grasping the nature of reality. And it's illusory, physical state. And from about the, just after the turn of the millennium, I started to see, I got this overwhelming feeling that this reality is actually a simulation. It's a digital frequency simulation. It operates like a Wi-Fi field. It's a Wi-Fi field of information, which we are decoding into the world that we think we're experiencing, which is external. And the longer it went on, I started to realize that the human body, which I've

17:05been calling since the 1990s, a biological computer, was actually the equivalent of a virtual reality headset. It was decoding this simulation field, like a computer decodes Wi-Fi. And what's been really helpful, to say the least, although it's very dangerous in terms of what the ultimate goal is, is that this technological society that's now emerging is a technological, in so many ways, a technological mirror of how we actually interact with reality and how we create reality. Because you've got a Wi-Fi field of information, let's the radiation field, encoded with information, we call that the internet. And the computer decodes it. It decodes it into a very, very different form on the screen of the computer. And the other thing is that, although

18:08I'm looking at this screen now, from, you know, apparently externally, the decoding of what I'm looking at is going on inside the computer. And this human body headset operates in the same way. So if you look at mainstream science, it talks about the fact that the five senses, the five senses are how we lock into this simulation, how the body locks into it. They are picking up frequency information from the field. They're turning it into electrical information, communicating it to the brain, and the brain then decodes it into a reality, what I say is a holographic digital reality. And that reality, our grandeur, appears to be external tumors, but actually it's all going on in here. And so if you liken this to, like I say, a headset, if you go on the internet and you

19:16watch these compilations of people, where they put a headset on, and suddenly their sense of reality completely changes. In seconds, minutes, and they're thrashing around, they're screaming, they're falling off their chairs. And that is only putting a headset on, which they can take off and go, it's just a gain. But if your headset that's decoding this simulation is your human body, then the only way you can stop that decoding, delivering a sensitive reality to you is at death. And that's why when the body ceases to function for what we call death, people in millions now have had these near death experiences where they've suddenly found themselves in another reality, their consciousness is in another reality. It's because the headset has ceased to decode this one.

20:16And if you look at, again, mainstream science, the band of frequency that we can actually see it's ridiculous. According to mainstream science, the electromagnetic spectrum, which is basically human experience reality, is 0.0.5% to what exists in the universe in terms of energy and its different forms. A visible light, which is the only band of frequency that we can see, is a fraction of the 0.0.5%. And there's a reason for that, because if you had a wider visual acuity, you would see your controllers, because they're operating on frequencies and dimensions just outside of this one, but not close enough for it to actually see them. And so we're pinned in this really ridiculously narrow band of frequency for visual acuity.

21:19And so it's clear to me then, as we went deeper in the rabbit hole, or I did, because I work alone, that these entities were part of the structure that had created this simulation, which in so many ways mirrors the matrix in the matrix movies. And so if you look at those movies, they were outside the matrix. And then this probe was put in the back of the net, which is the reptilian brain. And they went into the matrix, not with their physicality as it was portrayed in the movies, but through their mind, through their perceptions. And so as this went on, you asked another question,

22:26well, what's the point? Why are they doing this? What does it get out of it? And then you go into the realms of the fact that these entities and the consciousness that works through them, is actually feeding off low vibrational human emotion and human thought. Every time, and this is again, mainstream science, every time we feel emotion or we think, we're generating frequencies that relate to the nature of the emotion and the nature of the thought. So things like fear, the currency of control in the human world, things like fear, anxiety, depression, resentment, conflict, all these different things are low vibrational generators. And these entities are feeding off that energy. So they have absolutely no interest,

23:33whatsoever, in this world being one of joy and love and peace and happiness and people having enough to eat and having lives. They have no interest in that. They're interest is in using this matrix, this perceptual illusion to conjure up events and experiences that constantly generate this low vibrational energy. And you know, I just finished on this point with this. When you look at people and they're having an emotional experience, you can see from their body language, they're having an emotional experience. Okay. But what you can't see with invisible light is the energy they're giving off as a result

24:34of their emotional and mental state. Because that energy is going into this other dimension, that's why we can't see it. And so these entities that operate in this other dimension, of feeding off that. And you know, imagine the low vibrational energy produced by a world wall. But imagine that much was produced by the fear of the COVID hoax and all these things that are going on, fear of world wall three, all the time they are manipulating us perceptually and emotionally to produce this this illusion. Just a quick one. Tyler Reddick here from 2311 Racing. Another checkered flag for the books. Time to celebrate with Jamba. Jump in at JambaCasino.com. Let's Jamba. No purchase necessary. BTW Group, Voidware Prohibited by Mar, CCNC, 21 plus sponsored by Jamba Casino. I started to realize

25:36in the 1990s that these people I was uncovering in terms of this global cult, these famous people, what millionaires, then billionaires now. We're taking part in satanic ritual. And it's like, what? Why? And then you look back and you look at those times all over the world when it was done openly. And they were doing rituals, ritual sacrifice of people, often children, young virgins to the gods and stuff, code for children. They were making these offerings to the gods, these sacrifice offerings. And you think, well, first of all, why? What do the gods get out of this? And then you think, well, hold on a minute. The Asians, because it was acceptable, then, were openly sacrificing people as a gift to the gods.

26:38And then humanity got to a point of maturity where it wasn't having anyone. And so it went underground. And you realize that these people today in this global cult, famous people, are doing satanic ritual sacrifice to the gods and they're the same gods that the Asians were doing it to. And you look around the world and people at different cultures and parts of the world have different names for these quote, gods. But they're all the same entities, not gods at all, idiots. And so you look at these pantheons, we talk about the Greek pantheon of gods, but as I talk about in the reveal, all over the world, there are these pantheons of gods, there's the African pantheon and everywhere you find the same theme using different names.

27:42And so what I realized, as I understood this process of feeding off low vibrational human emotion, is that that's why they're sacrificing people. And that's what the offering to the gods is. And it also explains all these stories about adrenal crowd coming out of Washington DC and other places. But particularly there, they're doing basically the same rituals today, these rich and famous people that they were doing in Babylon and places like that, because the nature of the ritual is designed to create a particular energetic environment and to elicit maximum terror in the victim. And as the person is being put through this, they're generating understandably this incredibly powerful low vibrational energy called terror. And these

28:50entities in this, what's called the astral dimension that kind of interpenetrates this one, but outside of human sight, they are feeding off that terror. That's the offering to the gods. And what happens in the human level of the ritual where they're conducting it, their stupid robes and whatever, is that this terror causes a chemical adrenaline to enter the blood. And that's why they drink the blood because it's got this adrenaline. It's kind of a almost like a drug to them. So again, the more that you go deeper in a rabbit hole and you keep saying, well, okay, I think I know this, but what don't I know? The more the the the dots connect so you can see so many things that are explained that will never be explained while you're in the myopia of just focusing on this world alone. Right. Right. So so many people talk about the problem

29:55of child trafficking and pedophilia and all this stuff, but they, but you don't hear a lot of people talking about why that's a thing. And you just explained why it's not about it's not just about the sexual aspect of it. It's about the energy harvesting aspects. Well, that's an interesting point because I've said in the books over the years many times that the satanic networks and the pedophile networks at their core are connected. It's connected to the same thing. You see, one of the things I realized as as most search unfolded through the 90s is that these entities for whatever reason want the energy of children before puberty. We see puberty as a chemical transformation, which on one level it is, but that chemical transformation is the result of a frequency

30:57vibrational transformation that's going on in the energetic field of people at that time. And therefore they want that energy before that happens. So you can now we can now start to see this obsession with children. And so what's happening, you know, again, it's all about frequency that allows us to see this. We're operating in the frequency band of what we call atomic matter. If people only realized just how tiny that is, it's unbelievable. Isn't it example? Again, mainstream science. Of the visible universe, the universe we can see 99 percent,

31:57some go as high as 99.99 percent, of the energy in the visible universe is not matter. It's something called plasma, which is known as the fourth stage of matters, much more ethereal stage of matter. So ethereal that we can't see it without, without sight, without a visual frequency band. Beyond the five senses. Yeah. Yeah, it is beyond the five senses. So, I mean, here's the thing. People say, okay, so where's this astral then? Well, this astral is a big band of frequency. And it goes into frequency levels that are way, way beyond this one. But it also comes in to basically interact with this one as well at its lower frequency levels. And that's where these entities are. So I'm looking around now. I can see a wall. I can see a window. I can see lights. And I can see a computer in the desk. But in between those forms,

33:00that matter, and as Einstein said, matter is just energy that's gone into a dense frequency state that makes it appear as if it's solid. And we interact with it as if it's solid. And I explain the books. Now that works. But in between these forms of matter, to my visual reality, there's just empty space. It's not empty space, but it appears to be because what's in that empty space is outside the visible frequency band of humans. But what it is is plasma. And you know, I can say they're called plasma. The four states of matter actually should be the first state of matter. And so they're warming the basis of everything. And this plasma is actually the astral. You know, when you think people have paranormal experiences and some ghost appears out of nowhere, they're appearing out of the astral. They're just entering a frequency state that you can see,

34:09but not most of the time in a physical sense. You see it in a ethereal sense, because you're not on its frequency. If you were on its frequency, it was a appears solid issue in me. And so you have this astral. And these entities are operating in this lower level of the astral or outside of human sight, but close enough to interact. And these satanic rituals that they're doing are to interact with these entities. I've spoken to people because I've been doing this a long time and I've traveled everywhere. I can't now because I'm banned from God knows how many countries are about nearly 30 now. But I've spoken to people who've taken part in these rituals, you know, around the world. And they've described to me as these entities when they create the energetic environment, which is what these rituals are designed to do, with all the chance

35:12and all this other stuff that goes on, that in the really the advanced ones, the advanced ritual, these entities kind of appear in the ritual. And you see them and often they're reptilian in nature, but not always. There are many different types, but they're all non-human. And so when it comes to pedophilia, horrible to talk about, but when the the pedophile is is abusing a child, shall we say, they are overlaid by these entities energetically. And the child's energy is being drawn off through the pedophiles, the pedophiles energetic field into the field of these entities. And you know, I've talked to people again around the world. I've talked to people in cultures like

36:16the Zulu culture in South Africa, with a great friend of mine, unfortunately, now passed Kredo Muchwa, the official historian of the Zulu nation and a high shaman. And he's describing how, for instance, in their village, they had men who were going around constantly, I'm looking after the children because they were being taken. And they were being taken, because this child trafficking is unbelievable in scale. It's happening everywhere. And what Kredo described to me, not just from modern experience, but from the legends and accounts of going way back in the Zulu culture. And you'll find this everywhere, is that these entities are

37:19drawing off the energy of children. And they're doing it through these quote pedophiles, who are basically into a very, very large extent, just literally possess people, where these entities, which are an energetic state, they lock in to the energetic field, the electromagnetic field of the body, what we call the auric field. And they make that connection, and they draw off the child's energy through that conduit. So this is going on all over the world. And, you know, we've come a long way already from Trump or Harris, you know, and right wing politics and what have you. And this is why we really do need to expand our understanding of the scale of what's going on. Right. And absolutely. So what are your thoughts on God's being here in human form? And the towers and the frequency net surrounding the planet,

38:25maintaining the illusion that keeps us from seeing their true identity as far as like maybe even the royal family being a reptilian bloodline and stuff like that. Hello, it is Ryan. And we could all use an extra bright spot in our day, couldn't we? Just to make up for things like sitting in traffic, doing the dishes, counting your steps, you know, all the mundane stuff. That is why I'm such a big fan of Chamba Casino. Chamba Casino has all your favorite social casino style games that you can play for free anytime, anywhere with daily bonuses. So sign up now at chamba casino.com. That's chamba casino.com. Yeah, well, there's a lot of hybrid bloodlines where they are, they have an energetic field that contains the human information and they have an energetic field that contains the reptilian or other non-human information. And they can shift between the two, especially in rituals. I've had it described to me by many people around the world how these people quote, shape shift during

39:29the rituals when they're among, you know, among friends, shall we say, because they can move from one energetic field to another, but of course, you know, in the public arena. And when they're not among people who are part of this, they take their human form. But again, it's understanding, you know, if people who are just stuck in five sense reality and that's how they see everything, everything is solid and what have you done. Then, and I've experienced this many times, they will dismiss any idea of quote, shape shift, even though it goes way back into the ancient world and is described as such, because they say you can't go from a solid body to a solid body. And you can't. I'm the first one to say that. But that's not what's happening. That's not what's happening. It's an information shift. And what is happening? I described earlier how

40:32we are picking up with the five senses. We're picking up frequency information, the simulation field, actually. Or we can be on there if we're awake enough. And then the brain decodes that into a sense of reality. Well, that's exactly what's happening with shape shift. So if someone's projecting at me their human field, what this process of decoding is doing is decoding the human field. So they look human to me. And they look solid human. But when they shift their field into the non-human field, then I would start decoding that. And to my observation, they will have moved from a solid human state to a solid non-human state. But that's not what's happening, because there is no salinity. And we can see that with quantum physics, if you go deep enough into what we call matter, it's basically nothing there. Compare

41:37what we perceive it to be. So you have this dual world where you have the global cult in the secret society network. And you have the population. And the idea is, this is the whole foundation of it in terms of control of information. You pass on through your secret society network at the in a core, not the, you know, Bill and Joe down the lodge. First of all, what the agenda is for humanity, going towards this obvious dystopia now. But you also pass on at that in a core, generation up to generation up to generation, the nature of reality. And you lose the re nature of physical reality. At the same time, this is how it's been done, that cult has

42:40created, never mind controls, has created the sources of information, education system, programming system, global media, whatever. That the population forms its perceptions from. And the reason for all this now censorship is because they want to stop any other form of explanation of anything, especially reality, from reaching the public because what they want is them only to hear their version of what will get them to see the world in a way that allows mass human control. So what people like me have been doing all these years is uncovering what's in the cult and the cult plan, et cetera, and uncovering what they don't want us to know and passing it on to the public. But as I know,

43:45for my own experience, it's easier now, within 1990s and beyond, forget it, is that the perception of reality of the mass of the people is so limited, compared with what they know and are doing, that that chasm is too great for most people to cross. So they go, you're mad, mate, you know, this is ridiculous, this is far out, this is could never happen. And you know, one of the greatest ways of human perceptual control is to control the perception of the possible. You can control and squeeze the perception of the possible. Then when this information is put before the public, they'll just say it's impossible. It's not impossible because your perception of the possible is your perception of the possible. It's not actually

44:45what is possible. If you go into the levels that this cult is operating. Right. So what are your thoughts on the actual towers? So let's just say that frequencies are real, these are merging. And you know, I don't know if you've heard of this new disease that's out that if you start to see people appear as demons, let us know and we'll give you this medication, whatever. Because I think people are starting to see through into the next frequency. And I think the towers are maintaining some sort of frequency net that keeps us from actually seeing what's going to start naturally presenting itself. Yeah, yeah, absolutely right. Couldn't agree more. The astral levels of the astral are starting to fuse into this human reality. In a way, well, we don't know. In modern history, it's not happened. And so more and more people,

45:49and again, as more and more people awaken and expand their awareness, well, they're going to start seeing things that they couldn't see through that expansion of their awareness. They're going to be able to perceive what they couldn't perceive before. So yeah, I think that is definitely happening. And of course, there's every effort and you've mentioned one of them to stop people seeing what they're not supposed to see. But one of the things I go into in the new book The Reveal in some detail is the next stage, which links into what you were just mentioning there about the veil. As I've traveled around the world, I've saw that the vast majority of humanity is not ever in a good time. It's a trying to survive another day for so many people worldwide. In Africa, in Asia,

46:57in South America, in Central America, and so on. And increasingly, in the West, it's becoming a more and more of a challenge to do that. And so by this time, I was convinced that reincarnation is real. But my reading of it is very different to the usual reincarnation story, which is you come here constantly pass in different lives to learn lessons. I think that's garbage personally. I think it's actually a trap and a trap that we can't get out of. But only if we're aware of this trap and how it works. So one of the reasons I was convinced about reincarnation is just looking at, for instance, these very young children who have memories of past lives in detail. I mean, we're talking names, locations, even describing the internal layout of houses in places they've

48:06never been in this life. And there was a guy, I mentioned him in the reveal. He was an American Canadian psychiatrist called Ian Stevenson. We became very well known for taking these stories, which very young children were describing. And going off, he did thousands of studies, thousands of them. And checking if they could be supported by the evidence. And he set out to debunk them. That was his idea, because he was a scientist who said, okay, if you want to prove something right, then what you've got to do is do everything you can to debunk it. And what he found was an extraordinary detailed correlations between what these kids were describing and the locations that they were saying they had past lives in. The people they said they had past lives with often

49:09who was still alive. What's up, foos, men of the J. O's all here from the WWE. When it's just me between matches, it's day one ish. That means it's chumba time with hundreds of casino style games and new titles arriving weekly. There's always something French to try at chumba casino. The daily booze make it even more fun and have me about to get them all during my downtime. Ready for a fun way to chill out and enjoy a few minutes for yourself? Let's chumba. No purchase necessary. VGW group void were prohibited by law CTS and Cs 21 plus sponsored by chumba casino. And they checked out it extraordinary detail and so many times there's a story I tell in the reveal where one little boy he was describing how he was married to this lady and he was in this family in this place where he'd never been before. And so they took him there and he was

50:11talking to this lady he said it'd been his wife. He's a little boy. He was talking to her as if he was still a husband, right? And that must have been quite a scene. And what happened in the end is the family said to him, well, look, if what you're saying is true, we could never find her husband's will and my husband's will. Where is it? And he goes along and he points to a floor the board. They took the floor board up and there's the will. So, you know, and there's been a lot of television programs about this too. But then I kind of related that to what I said a few minutes ago that so many people in this world are having a really, really hard time. It's not fun. And I thought, well, I can understand how consciousness can be enticed and tricked into coming into this simulation once to produce what is known as become known as the loose, this low

51:19vibrational energy that people give off in certain emotional mental states. But why the heck would you come back? I mean, you'd leave the body, wouldn't you? And you'd go, hey, going back there, it's horrible. And for most people, it is. So why did they come back? And I started, well, I've done this over many years anyway, but I started to really intensely read and watch accounts of so-called death experiences and how they were describing the reality they experienced after the body had died. What is death? The body ceases to decode the simulation because it's not functioning anymore. And then your consciousness is released and you find yourself in another reality, is actually the astral. And the common themes that we're describing were very, very compelling.

52:21And it became clear that when I started hearing the accounts of people, for instance, who say they can remember the incarnation process, which seems way to describe it very technological in a way that you wouldn't normally think of the afterlife and the spiritual world and all this stuff. But actually, it's described in very technological terms. And one of the other things that I've started to see very clearly is that this whole simulation, the astral part of it and the human part of it, are both run by artificial intelligence, an artificial intelligence that is way, way beyond even what we're seeing in the public arena now. It's like what gigantic quantum computer dissimulation. And the AI that's now, you talk about this astral dimension moving more and

53:31more into this one and so people can see things. One of the things that I say is happening is that this AI explosion is coming in from the astral. It's a low level version of it compared with that, but it's coming in from there and it's coming in through the underground bases and it's coming in through the secret projects. And what happens then is they have to produce cover stories to explain how this stuff came into the public arena because they can't say, well, it's it's an underground base. We've brought it out of there. They have cover stories and they have cover people who become very rich, being covered people. But they just cover stories to explain how this came into the into the public arena when actually didn't come into it like that at all. And so you'll you'll note that the more this technological reality has unfolded, the gaps, I mean, I was born in 1952

54:33and I've seen the gaps between technology being embedded and coming into the public arena. You don't see the gaps anymore. It's it's an endless wave of more and more advanced technology, AI technology, computer technology that's coming in and transforming this world into a dystopia because the idea is that AI will control this world openly, not least control the human mind. They want to connect AI to the human brain. They're openly talking about this now saying, what a what a wonderful thing it would be and how we would be gods. Then you've got Elon Musk doing the soft sell to the same end who's saying, oh, well, you know, AI is inevitable. It's going to take over if we're not fused with AI, then, you know, well, we'll die out. The outcome is the same with both the soft sell and the hard sell. And that is that we fuse with AI.

55:34And AI will then dictate our thoughts and emotional responses. And they won't have to manipulate information to manipulate perception anymore because the perception will come direct. That's the idea. And people like Ray Kurzweil, the so-called futuristic Google, said years ago that by 2030, this will be happening. I say it's already happening. So I explain in the books. But so we are stepping to the world of power, loyalty and luck. I'm going to make him an offer he can't refuse. With family, conoles and spins mean everything. Now you want to get mixed up in the family business, introducing the Godfather at chumpacacino.com. Test your luck in the shadowy world of the Godfather slot someday. I will call upon you to do a service for me. Play the Godfather now at chumpacacino.com. Welcome to the family. No purchase necessary VGW group void for prohibited by law, 21 plus terms and conditions apply. We are looking at a, an emerging control system through AI that's coming out.

56:44The astral. So these people that can remember the incarnation process. Again, their common stories are very compelling. And one of them is just how dense energetically this human reality is. The way they describe it, you know, coming into it is one that is so dense. The frequency is so low compared with what they come in from. Because the astral is a much more ethereal from our perspective reality that it's almost impossible to experience. It's so dense. And the other thing that they talk about is coming in through a vast electromagnetic field

57:45which has the effect of wiping their memory. I recall the, you know, probably too young to remember this, but when they started bringing it in videotapes, the massive videotapes they had in those days, if you wanted to use one again, you couldn't just record over it because you'd get bits of both on the screen. I've had it. You would rub it over a magnetic field and it would wipe it, and then you could use it again. And it's an equivalent of that really. And obviously for the vast majority of people, we don't remember past lives. We don't remember being in another realm beyond this one. We only perceive this. And interestingly, you know, Ian Stevenson was talking about with his reincarnation research is that by the age of about seven, these kids, their memories

58:52started to fade. Some kept them into adulthood, but not many. And it's because this constant delivery of this reality through this decoding process, the biological computer, overrides it. And that memory fades. It's white's young kids that really have this memory of them. But yeah, they talk about it being white. And that makes sense to me, not only because we don't remember past lives overwhelmingly, although we have things like deja vu when we think have been here before and what's going on. But it also explains something else. When I've read these accounts of near-death experiences, and when they've left the body, the body's ceased to function, they describe a reality that they say they'd never experienced before.

59:53They describe a bliss that they'd never experienced before. And that's the frequency to stimulate actually the afterlife all year in heaven. Actually, it's another level of simulation. And you think, well, you believe in reincarnation. Why haven't you experienced it before then? You must have experienced it many times. So why do you think, okay, I've never experienced this before. It's amazing. It's because the mind-wife, as I call it in the reveal, continues after that that death process until you're back in the astral fold. And you're caught back in the web, or what the Buddhist call the wheel of samsara, where you go on this wheel of constant reincarnation to quote, learn lessons. Well, to evolve, when I just wonder what the kids and guards are

1:00:56alerting currently. And you see these extraordinary lives that people have. And what tends to happen is because of cognitive dissonance, people try to put a positive spin on what's happening. So I've heard people who, some from Silicon Valley and Waivea who have convinced this is a simulation. And I've researched it and come to that conclusion. It's more and more mainstream scientists of regional conclusion. But they still say, yeah, it's a simulation, but it's there so that we can experience things and evolve. It's this, it's getting past that and seeing actually its track. Because if you're feeding off low vibrational human emotion and because of the density of this human realm

1:02:01I've described, we are much more in a state to generate this this energy. And so you don't want people consciousness coming in here leaving and going, sod that for a game. So just I'm going back there. You've got to have this this sequence of another level of the simulation which brings you back constantly going through the human experience and generating this quote, luch. And this is what it is. And I've quoted people in the reveal who have memories of this experience. So coming in to this reality through quote incarnation and experience that they have had in this astral dimension, which they still remember, which we talk about the fact, it's a trap. It's a trap to keep you on the wheel of samsara. And for me, what I talk about in the

1:03:09book is there's there's three levels that, you know, there's multiple levels as well, but there's three basic levels. One is the human form, the human body. And the human body is a biological computer that's decoding the simulation field into this reality. And it's an interactive one. So it's affecting us, but we're also affecting it. So as people are awakened and and and take a much more panoramic, expansive view of self and reality, they're impacting upon this field. And the field is also impacting on you obviously. And more than anyone, it's impacting on those that are still stuck in the five senses because they're in the simulation and of the simulation, whether in that state. But, you know, the body is there to experience this human reality with this

1:04:11human frequency band. So if my consciousness wanted to tap these keys, it couldn't because the frequency difference between my consciousness and this physical reality as we perceive it is so vast, and then never the twine shell me, I couldn't interact. I couldn't pick this cup up or anything. So we take on this outer shell to to interact with the frequency band that we want to interact with, or at least that we've been tricked into interacting with. And then when you leave the body, you have a another level, which is much more ethereal. Some people call it the soul. And the soul is that energetic shell that interacts with the astral. So you're in a much more ethereal reality, well, compared with this one. But you're still in a shell, you're still in a state of

1:05:20perceiving yourself in a form of individuality of them. And then there's another level, which I call spirit, which is the true by ultimately. And that operates outside of the simulation. It's beyond what we call the soul. It's beyond obviously the human body. And it's a state of being and a state of self-identity in which you are simply pure awareness. You are a state of being aware. No form, none of it. You're just a state of awareness. And what happens is the state of awareness comes into the astral. There is enticed into it. And then it takes on the astral perception of reality and starts to lose contact with that bevel of it that I call spirit. And then it comes into the human world and it loses it even more because it's so far away.

1:06:20This density is so far away from the level of frequency and beyond frequency that the spirit operates at. So what this whole conspiracy is about is focusing attention in the human experience in the five senses so that we are perceiving the world from a five sense point of view and that we are self-identifying our sense of the eye with the labels of a human life. I'm a man, I'm a woman, I'm a this race, that race, this religion, this sexuality, that's who I am. Now that's what you're experiencing and what the whole foundation of this conspiracy is about is convincing us that what we're experiencing is who we are. And when you go to the level of the soul, the astral

1:07:27body, if you like, then the same thing basically continues because if you look at religion, religion is basically founded on having a soul. But this conspiracy and bothered about that because you're still in the matrix, you're still in the simulation at that level as well. What they don't want us to understand is that we are beyond that. We are simply a state of awareness and potentially all awareness, what people call God. Bubble Wallace here from 2311 Racing. You know it's slower than a pace car waiting at the car wash. That's when I fire up Chamba Casino. It turns those slow minutes into fast fun. With new games every week, you'll never get bored. Next time you're stuck in the slow lane, speed up with Chamba. Play now at ChambaCasino.com. Let's Chamba sponsored by Chamba Casino. No purchase necessary. VGW Group

1:08:33Void we're prohibited by law. 21 plus terms and conditions apply. And you know it's my it's my feeling that a lot of a lot of people who worship what they perceive to be God is not God at all as they think it is. It's actually these entities, this conspiracy. Because if you look at the Bible, no one's going to convince me that what's being described in the Old Testament and what's being described in the New Testament is the same entity. It's the same being. I mean, please, you know, the Old Testament God is a bloodthirsty bloke who's jealous God and all this stuff. Michael Paph. Yeah, it's not like a paph, it's exactly the all-way Jehovah and and the Elohim and all this stuff. They are psychopaths. And you know, for me, as I say in

1:09:40some of my books, this Genesis description of God creating the world, I say that's actually this non-human force, which in the end is a state of consciousness, which is like the, you know, if you look at the different religions and you look at the different cultures and belief systems, there's an extraordinary common theme like Christianity talks about the devil or Satan. That for me is the consciousness that's driving this, consciousness that's driving this. And they talk about demons. These are the entities that are driven by that consciousness and are expressions of that consciousness. You look at Islam and they talk about shaytan or iblis. That for me is the consciousness, the negative consciousness, the psychopathic consciousness, and they talk about the gen, which are the equivalent of the demons, not all of them, but it's very similar. Then you've

1:10:44got thenostics and they talk about a being they call yold of aoth or the demi-erge. Yold of aoth is that consciousness and they talk about arcons working for the consciousness yold of aoth. Arcons in Greek means rulers, actually hidden rulers. And you then talk as I have to people in various native cultures around the world, whether aborigines in Australia or Zulu's etc in South Africa. And they have a similar concept of this manipulative consciousness and these entities working for that consciousness of being driven by that consciousness that actually are manipulating human society. And so we are faced with a situation where the key for me

1:11:52of sort in this out is not Trump the savior or anybody else the savior. It's realizing the nature of the trap. How it's based on perception and holding in perception which means controlling frequency. The more expansive you perceive yourself to be, like if you perceive yourself the eye to be this and many people do, then you are absolutely self-identifying with limitation, with my opinion. And thus your frequency will reflect that, what you're giving up, what you're operating. If you go into the astral and you perceive yourself to be a reincarnating to learn lessons, entity, and I explain in the reveal how the manipulation goes on in the astral. It's been described

1:12:55to me by many people and how they get them to come back into the human world. But your perception of self will reflect that astral identity and you will operate on that frequency. And both of those frequencies are operating within the simulation frequency so you're in the trap. Once you reach this point of awareness, this self-identity that we are awareness, a state of being aware, that generates the frequency that you are operating on, that whips you out of this thing, out of this simulation, out of this trap. It's all self-identity and which generates frequency. And that's why within this simulation and within this human world, they're constantly working to control your perception, especially your self-identity so that you continue to operate within

1:14:05the frequency trap of the simulation. So basically, we're given two choices overwhelmingly. One is that, and this is overwhelmingly promoted by what we call science or a joke, that we are a cosmic accident and we've come from nowhere and we're going to know where and that's it, lights go out. And the other is that we are subjected to the whims, the control and the dictates of a god. And at that level, when we leave the body, we become the soul and we're judged often in the major religions, not Hinduism, but others. We are judged on our one life on earth of where we're going to go eternally, which for me is an absolute nonsense. But the thing is,

1:15:10those two choices, I am the body and that's it. I am the soul of both simulation, simulation trap phenomenon. And we need to go beyond that and they don't want us to go beyond that. And if you look at how our religions have worked over the years, how Roman Catholicism has worked over the years, the Church of Rome, interestingly, so many people in this hijacked, alternative media are converting to Roman Catholicism with its history of mass slaughter for the crime of having a different opinion. But if you look at these religions, through history, if you deviate from their story, from their narrative, then you're a blasphemer.

1:16:16And through the ages, that's been a death sentence. And so anyone that's moving into this perception of reality and perception of self-identity, which is threatening to take them out of here, these religions jump on them and tell them that they can't do that or or you know, you have the inquisition and all the other stuff for the crime of not believing the official story. So all these things have served the interests of this simulation and its control in force. Because control per section, you control frequency. Keep the frequency within the simulation. Gotcha. Right. Right. And you know, I've heard Max Spears used to refer to the infinity symbol as being a metaphor for the trap and it originated

1:17:19from the snake eating its own head. Right. And that was like that. Oraborus. Yeah. So, and obviously, that can be perceived in view in many ways. And there's a lot of opinions on that. Also, it's interesting. We'll go ahead. I tell you what's interesting is that there's the Oraborus, which is the snake eating its own squall of its own child. But there's another old esoteric concept of what's called the ring pass knot. And the ring pass knot is said to be a point of frequency within which you will be trapped unless you reach a certain level of enlightened. Now, you look at what the Buddhists say. And there's truth and there's fantasy in all things. So, there's some really good stuff in Christianity. There's some really good stuff in Buddhism.

1:18:21It's taking it all without question that I say it's the problem. Once you think this is, once you think something's the word of God, then none of it can be wrong. But it does. There's really good stuff. And there's this stuff that cannot be supported by... So, you have this Buddhist concept that you keep incarnating until you've evolved to a state of enlightenment. And when you reach that state, you can leave the wheel of samsara, brackets,

1:19:27the fricking matrix. And so, what the two are saying is that you have to reach a certain state of enlightenment to leave the to get through the ring pass knot or to leave the wheel of samsara. And that state of enlightenment is a state of being, a state of being aware that you are pure consciousness, you are a state of being aware, which generates you to operate on a frequency that can leave the place. That can get through the ring pass knot. In fact, you're in a state of frequency awareness that the ring pass knot no longer exists. It's like passing through another radio station. The other radio station doesn't exist because you're on a different wavelength. And it's the same with the ring pass knot. It's the same with what the Buddhist call a state of

1:20:29enlightenment. It's all about reaching this self identity. And the foundation of the conspiracy is to stop you reaching that state of self identity that will get you out here. Right. You know, it's depicted in Star Trek and Stargate SG-1. There's a program called Genesis, right, where they terraform a planet in seven days or whatever and make it habitable for human. But they literally, they show it as, you know, being implemented on a planet by normal beings, not, but the people who spawned from that creation think that it was, you know, done by a god. And they tell us in the shows and movies. And we're coming up, we're on the hour now. And we can start wrapping this up. And I did want to get your thoughts on CERN. And what CERN is actually doing, what role it's playing and trying to open up gateways and stuff if you have time for that.

1:21:31And then we can, I do think that's exactly what CERN is doing. They are manipulating the energetic field to open up these interdimensional gateways. Yeah. I'm sure they're doing that. And yeah, CERN is, when you look at it, the amount of money that's been pumped into that, the amount of countries and scientists that are pumped into that, it's just extraordinary. And I talk to people who've worked at CERN. And what happens with a lot of them, it seems to be most of them, is they're only there for a short time. They use their expertise, but they're only there for a short time, relatively. And that means they're not there long enough to get the big picture. They're here today, going tomorrow, come and go, come and go. But the people who are running that at the

1:22:33core, the usual story, they will know exactly what they're doing and why. And this thing about the Higgs particle and all that stuff. And I'd say these are cover stories for what they're really doing. Yeah, I would agree with that. Absolutely. And there's lots of conspiracy theories around that. But some of them I think are true. People are coming to the same conclusion. We're opening portals here and allowing entities in from other dimensions to add to the control system. So even to the location where CERN is at Geneva, Switzerland, there's a reason they chose that location. Oh, yes. I mean, I mean, why are so many global institutions with global control based in that area? And that's right. Switzerland, etc. And I know that you've seen the clip of a lady called Stuckelberger. She's a scientist who worked for the World Health

1:23:37Organization. She's been involved in a lot of these things. And she lives in that area. And she's done some interviews. Look while back now, but you're still seeing him on the internet where she's describing meetings, CERN scientists, dinners, and what have you, who described to her how they are bringing entities into this reality from other dimensions. That's what they're actually doing. And again, if we go back to what I said about, what basically the two worlds, which are divided by knowledge where you have the cult world passing on this advanced knowledge through the cult and the human world where the cult institutions make sure that the mass of the public remain ignorant of what they know, then that's what you're looking at at CERN, for

1:24:39instance, you're dealing with technologies and agendas that are so far out to the perception of the mass of the population, the control of the sense of the possible, that they just dismiss and laugh at a lot of this stuff. But it's actually actually happening. I couldn't agree more. Well, thank you so much for joining us today. This has been fabulous. I mean, to be able to summarize the big picture and the way that you do is impressive. And I could listen to you talk all day. And thank you for what you're doing. Obviously, none of it goes unnoticed. And if you'd like to let our audience know where they can find your book and about iconic media, I follow you guys on social media. And I think it's great what you and Garrett are doing. So maybe you can talk about that and we can wrap it up. Yeah. Well, David, I.com is my website where there's news articles every day that put the events in perspective rather than

1:25:42what we're told they mean. And all my videos are on there. And you can get the reveal there. The reveal is part of a trilogy, but they're all the books of individual in the sense of their self-contained, called the trap, the dream, and now the reveal. And the reveals are as deep as I've gone so far in the in the rabbit hole. And iconic was started by my son, Jamie, in 2019, just before COVID hit, funnily enough, where COVID hoax it. And it's kind of an alternative Netflix in a real kind of, you know, theme. In the sense that it does new shows, I do one every week, called The Doc Connector, and Gareth Mylesum does a show every week. And we also do, this is a, you know, major part of iconic. We do full-length documentaries about reality, nature of reality. I've done one called

1:26:46the Albion, called Albion. And I've done ones that are kind of along the themes that we've been talking about. And we just got a four part series, three parts are now streaming on iconic.com, one to come very shortly, called The Great Unknown. And that is exploring this whole reality of what we've been talking about. And the third one, which is literally just come out, it's produced by our director and producer, Cristiano Van Waik, is about the trap and how it works in which we talk to, I mean, I'm taking part in them as well. But we're talking to people there that say that they've seen the trap and that they have memories of their incarnation process.

1:27:48And memories of the electromagnetic field that they go through to wipe their memories and wipe what, in theory, it didn't with them, but it does with most people. And so it's a real cutting-edge platform iconic. And what we're seeking to do is what I talked about earlier, which is constantly to ask the question, what don't we know, and then go in pursuit of what we don't know. So it's, it's real cutting-edge stuff. Yeah, yeah, I love it. It's great, you know, the production quality is fantastic and the content quality information is fantastic. So I encourage everyone to go check that out. And thanks again, we can't thank you enough for joining us. And this has been an absolute pleasure. And thank you to the listeners who have been here with us. We love you all and we can't do this without you. And until next time, have a great evening or day, depending on where you're at. Thanks, mate. Bye. Bye.

1:28:53It was further agreed that the alien nation in the United States would exchange 16 personnel each to the other with the purpose of learning each of the other. The alien gas would remain on earth and the human gas would travel to the alien point of origin for a specified period of time, then return. Well, what shocked me was how they selected the astronauts. But they went out and found people within the military that were orphans and didn't have any family members and weren't married. Now that's a difficult task, even in 1960. But this became quite a mainstay in early apology of the 1990s, given that in addition to request anonymous telling this extraordinary story, there were several alleged DIA or defense intelligence agency officials who were also coming in and saying, yeah, we have knowledge of this case too. And we can verify what request anonymous is talking about. Could you ask the main ways to love it and then to like us? Smarter than me. Smarter than me by a long range.

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