EP 291 - Nancy Thames - Alien Agendas - Misconceptions & The Future of Humanity

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5:14And the reason why I emphasize positive is because I have figured out throughout the years that other people were having experiences, but there's work quite different than mine. So there is a big difference between people that call themselves abductees and people like me who are contactees. Right. There's a huge difference. So you were never taken without your consent is what you're saying. Absolutely. Now, I was I was always, um, yeah, uh, you know, like I said, this has been happening on my life. So through a process, these these things all, it didn't happen overnight to understand any of this and it did not happen overnight that for me to get to a, understand a spiritual understanding and just the understanding of the purpose of it. There was a lot of times, especially during my teenage years, where I began to get scared because of reading what other people were saying and the simple fact that this was something

6:17that you could not discuss out in public around other family members or in school or just basically anywhere. I grew up in Tennessee and now I live in Mississippi and this is kind of the Bible belt of the South. And these are not topics that go over very well. You get a lot of our rolling and, you know, mumbly things under the breath type thing. So I learned very young to suppress this and that was not an easy thing to do. But I did do it. And um, so I've had good enough had bad, but basically do it all as I got older and had a better understanding and with more conscious time that they allowed me and were patient with me. And now I have a full understanding of the whole purpose and the differences. So we can, you know, I'm sure if I want to ask me anything, you're more, they're welcome

7:18to. So we can start from there or I can just start from the beginning of it if you want me to. Well, uh, we'll just kind of jump around because I do have some questions. So you said there's a difference between, I heard on a previous interview, you talked about the lower rim, extra, and I never heard anyone define it in that way. It makes sense to me or explanation, but for our audience, can you explain the difference between what you call the lower rim, extra, and then the interdimensional, or extra dimensionals? Yes. Um, I consider them interdimensional, but the reason I say that is because interdimensional, they come from different dimensions. We're in a 3D world and we only see what's in our vision line of being in a 3D world. And they, a lot of the lower rim, extra, terrestrials actually are within our galaxy. So I consider them a lower rim because they're not dimensional, they're like in our galaxy.

8:22We don't see them either because they're far away or because they can be, well, they can actually be dimensional, but not like the interdimensional. So we spoke. We spoke. We spoke themselves. Right. We're just cloaking technology too. They can be invisible. Absolutely. There's not, I've seen them do that. And even with their craft or individually, they can, they can appear invisible. They can do so many different things. The reason I say lower rim is because, um, one reason why human beings are very unique and one thing that the interdimensional and positive extraterrestrials love about us is because they look at us like children and they see that we have lots of DNA capabilities that have never really been activated. And they also know that when we finally joined together as one, we're pretty much unstoppable.

9:25So there's been a lot of a negative lower rim extraterrestrials that have worked with different fractions of government, different elites and different groups that want to keep humanity separated for one and also to keep us dumbed down so that we never reach higher consciousness and so that we never learn who, learn our place within the universe and that we are part of the cosmic realm above us and that we are descendants of extraterrestrials. So by keeping us separated, that's what they've always done. And this has been going on for eons and eons. And they've always known that at some point, this was going to happen. As long as they could, they were playing around like little commanders over us and manipulating us around like little puppets, keeping us dependent upon fossil fuels, having pharmaceutical

10:28companies make all these medications and a lot of times these medications and stuff are not even compatible with our metabolism. And also keeping all of our foods are air and our water. Everything has toxins and chemicals in it and all these things were done to keep us dumbed down and keep us at a lower mentality and not reaching higher consciousness. So, but now we are reaching higher consciousness. We are moving from our 3D world into fourth dimension and when the interdimensional and positive extraterrestrials saw that humanity's consciousness was raising, they came into our solar system and through our galaxies and big motherships and came in big numbers. And they pretty much told these lower realm extraterrestrials that have stepped over the boundaries of the cosmic realm of understanding that human beings are

11:33here on free will. They overstep that boundary and that would be one race of grace and there are many, many different races of grace of different heights, different colors, many, many different races. But one race decided they wanted to come down and tinker with humanity and they worked with some fractions of government and some beliefs and they came down and when they decided to do that, they broke off from the rest of the grace. So, they were not, grades have a collective high mind consciousness. So, when they elected to overstep the boundaries and go over, you know, over the boundary of leaving, not leaving us along, they were excommunicated by the interdimensional and the positive extraterrestrials. So, they are not part of the collective consciousness of all the positives or the interdimensional because of what they did. Now, this does not mean, and I call them negative, this does not mean

12:39they are not demonic, they are basically self-serving, they only think about themselves, they came here, they did what they wanted to do and they could care less about how it affected a human or how a human, anything about it, they didn't care, they were self-serving and so, they have no empathy for human beings and they did not care where the other ones would not overstep those boundaries because they're not supposed to for one and they did care what we think. So, when they got here in great numbers, they told these, there's a group of reptilians in a group of grays to leave humanity alone. So, if you look through your research and stuff, you don't pretty much say that most abductions and things were from the past, they have not been been occurring in the last, at least five or five years or something like that, yeah.

13:42Well, that aligns with a lot of stuff I've been reading about, especially like the dulce base and stuff that happened there. So, the whole reason for the dulce awards, if you guys know about that, dulce, New Mexico or Nevada, New Mexico, right? New Mexico. New Mexico, yeah. New Mexico. So, the way it was described is that there's like what, eight levels or something below the ground and the bottom four levels, our military, our government didn't even have access to. So, the ETs, along these grays, along with apparently these Nordics, there was like a certain Nordic group with them, but they had built out and they were doing things and they were supposed to be, they basically lied to us about what they were doing in the lower four floors until there was like some kind of recon mission, reconnaissance mission and they discovered all these these catacombs of just human skeletons underneath the dulce base that there was like an offshoot of the sub-global tunnel

14:44system and then they infiltrated and realized all the genetic experimenting they were doing on humans. They didn't realize the magnitude of it. They knew that they were doing some of it, but it didn't understand the magnitude. When we found out that's when the war started, but you're a hundred percent right. Like, that's what primarily what they were doing. I mean, they were, I mean, abducting us. They're serving. They're far greater numbers. Well, they described them more like a drone. Like, there was no emotion to these particular grays. Like, they didn't feel anything. So to them, it was just basically we were just like a product, you know. Hi, this is Alex Cantrowitz. I'm the host of Big Technology podcast, a long-time reporter and an on-air contributor to CNBC. And if you're like me, you're trying to figure out how artificial intelligence is changing the business world and our lives. So each week on Big Technology, I bring on key actors from companies building AI tech and outsiders trying to influence it. Asking where this is all going. They come from places like Nvidia, Microsoft, Amazon, and plenty more.

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16:51Asking where this is all going. They come from places like Nvidia, Microsoft, Amazon, and plenty more. So if you want to be smart with your wallet, your career choices, and meetings with your colleagues and at dinner parties, listen to Big Technology podcast wherever you get your podcasts. Yeah, well they're biological. I have been around lots of grays. And there's three grays that always come for me to take me to craft or wherever they want me to be. And they are Reddish Brown and one is a female and she is bonded to me. And she's always, since I was born, she has always been she always is the one that comes to get me and takes me to craft. And what happened or what she is is she's biological, but she comes across as being very robotic because she's task oriented. She has no emotions. And when she's telepathic with me, it's pretty cut and

17:55dry. There's no inflection. There's no emotion. They are just very task oriented. But she is was created by the tall grays and the interdimensional and they designed her and these other two with her that I don't they don't even communicate with me to be honest. They're they're just there. They always travel in threes. And I guess they're like protection or I don't really know, but anyway, so they created her because the extraterrestrials and the interdimensional have a hard time with the density on earth. They have that they don't they they can do it, but they don't particularly like it. So they created her and changed her DNA so that she can do the back and forth. So she basically just does all the legwork and she's here on task. So when they're here on task, there is no negotiating. There's no even even I, for example, if my son is with me.

19:02And I see him waking up because he's aware of their presence just as I am because he's an experience or two and they will not allow us to go on craft or have our experience exactly together. We could have it in the same night, but we do not travel by the saying we have different different escorts that do this. And they keep us separated mostly because of the mother's son born a connection because if I'm worried about how he's feeling and you know how what he's doing, then I lose focus of the whole purpose of my experience with him or my lesson or visitation however you want to turn this and vice versa. So if they come for him and I wake up because I'm so aware of when they when they're near, I know before they even get here that they're

20:04coming and I'll raise up in the bed and start looking and then they'll walk up to me and press the beat down the bed and tell me telepathically this is not about you. And you know now I understand it, but when I saw my two boys taking for the first time when they were very young, they put me in a sleek paralysis and this was not the three that come from me. These were three totally different ways and they were about three foot tall and they were a great color. And when I raised up one of them approached me and pressed me down and said this is not about you. And then because I saw them walking over towards my children, they sent my anxiety and they put me in a sleek paralysis. So I watched it from the corner of my eye, but I could not speak, I could not move, I could not do anything. And I was very, very upset. And for a long time, I was angry and upset and I did not understand why they do things that they do, but now I'm older

21:11and I've been around it so much that I understand they were actually doing me a favor. One, they do not have the same kind of emotions that we have and they don't understand it. And whatever we feel, they feel at 10 fold because they feel everything we feel. So rather than deal with it, they'll touch you and and put you in a translike state where you're fully functional, but you cannot speak. You cannot do certain things or they can put you in a functional state to where you're just kind of like in a sedated state, but you're not occasion, but they can do this to you. They can do a lot of different things, but I understand now because of they don't understand these feelings. So it's easier for them to put us in a

22:13relaxed state. The only problem with that is when you get back and wake up, you have fragmented memories where if you're fully conscious, you know, if you can go without the anxiety and all that stuff, then you can have the full experience. So and they were doing me if they could have easily taken my children and I would have never known it. And they could have, you know, they could have done it differently, but the way they did it, I understand now because I even now when my son and I, if we're in the same place, I still, I can't help it. I worry about whether, you know, why can't he go, but now I understand why they're just not going to do that because they don't want to deal with the issues of a mother and a son. Now they're great. Go ahead, Aaron. Oh, it's just because can you reiterate what exactly were they doing? Again, you keep saying I understand why they did it. What were they doing?

23:15Exactly. Oh, they came to get us to take us on to craft, to have our experience. And when we have our experience for one, they're checking on us our well-being, they're checking our health, they're checking the our mentality, they're checking our consciousness level, checking to see where we're, how we're progressing. And just all kinds of different things. So if we have a health problem, they'll fix it. If we, if we have questions, a lot of times they'll answer questions. They pretty much know even before we get their things that we want to know. And I meditate and communicate with them every single night. So everything usually gets addressed. It may not happen immediately or anything like that because I don't sit around and pretend and say that I could call them. They're not sitting up there waiting on somebody just to say, hey, come do this, come

24:18do that. That's not the way they operate or the universe operates. Right. Yeah. Right. Right. So the graves that show up in your house, in your room, they're, they're just the ones that are coming to transport you to the craft. But once you're on the craft, do you see other beings? Yes. Okay. Yes. I see the interdimensional, which are seven to eight-foot tall. They are human noise, but they are definitely not human beings. They have some similar human features, but not they are not humans. And the tall graves, they have a lot more personality than these hybrids that do the legwork. When, when they communicate to me or any of these human noise, any of them, when they communicate, it's always telepathic. But I can sense male or female, and I could also sense inflection in their voice. In other words, if they're trying

25:25to be a little humorous, I can sense that. Or if they're trying to be matter of fact, like, make it a point, I can sense that by the different tones in the way that it's presented to me. But now that the female, Greg, the hybrid that's down here doing the legwork, when she talks to me, I hear it, but I don't hear, like, male or female. I just know by her vibrational frequency, and I know by my bond with her, and I have a love for all of them. I have a very deep, loving bond. And I know that she's female. Would you call it, would these be like your star family, essentially, that goes beyond this lifetime? Is that why I'm connected? All right. Well, after I saw my children taking, and I was very upset, and I had this happened at Key West on a vacation away from home. And we were staying at a Marriott

26:32on the beach, and that's where this all happened. So the next morning, my children did not recall any of this. So I didn't say anything more because they were fine. No harm had been done. And either they didn't want to talk about it, or either they thought it was a dream, or either they simply took that memory away from them. So anyway, when I got back home, then I sat down and started meditating and asked for a face-to-face contact and information. I wanted to know why this was happening. What was the purpose of this? Why? You know, why was this happening to me? Why was this happening to my children? So after I'm meditated, I went to bed, and later on that night, the grays came for me, and they took me on craft, and they took me before what they called a group of elders. And these elders were interdimensional beings, and there was a whole bunch of them. I couldn't tell you how many, but they I was in the center, and they were like all around me,

27:37and they were called a cancel. And I asked them why me? Why is this happening to me? And they basically, what they told me was that I had made a decision before being born as a human being to be here, to come here and be here at this particular time, and everything at that point could not be as blind to me, because we were nowhere close. I was in my 20s, and we, you know, at that point, humanity was nowhere close to even thinking of disclosure. So they told me that I had made an agreement to come here, and that it was my choice. And I told them that I did not remember any of that, and they showed me a vision of myself being in a theory, being sitting and waiting, and the communication of them with me, explaining that I was fixing to go into my human experience, and that when I woke up, it would be many, many years before I saw them, and I would not remember

28:41any of this, but that they would be visiting me throughout my life and helping me to recall and remember these things, and that's basically what happened. So later on, well, about a year and a half ago, a year ago, something like that, they gave me a condolene awakening, and when that happened, I did not know what that was at all, and it scared me to death, but I later found out what it was, and what they were doing was opening my subconscious up into my human consciousness. So I found out that I was an extraterrestrial. I was interdimensional being, and so were my children, before we came here, and we made a choice to come here, and be a part of this big event, and basically all of us made a choice to be here at this time, because this

29:42is the biggest thing that's ever happened to human beings since the beginning of time. So that's basically what they explained to me is that this is a pivotal moment for humanity, and certain ones of us have chose to be here and be a part of it. Hey, I'm Josh Spiegel, host of the podcast, Lunatic in the newsroom. If you enjoy journalism that drifts into mild panic, wild overthinking, and a guaranteed nervous breakdown, Lunatic in the newsroom is for you. It's news like you've never heard before, the only newsroom with a panic button, you'll laugh, you'll cry, and gasp and horror as the show spirals completely out of control. It's not just news, it's emotionally unstable. Lunatic in the newsroom, listen today. Hi, this is Alex Cantrowitz, I'm the host of Big Technology podcast, a longtime reporter and an on-air contributor to CNBC. And if you're like me, you're trying to figure out how artificial intelligence is changing the business world and our lives. So each week on Big Technology,

30:45I bring on key actors from companies building AI tech and outsiders trying to influence it, asking where this is all going, to come from places like Nvidia, Microsoft, Amazon, and plenty more. So if you want to be smart with your wallet, your career choices, and meetings with your colleagues and at dinner parties, listen to Big Technology podcast wherever you get your podcasts. This is Mike Fouelot of Lexicon Valley. And I'm Bob Garfield. Are you one of those people who sometimes uses words? Do you communicate or acquire information with, you know, language? Hey, us too! So join us on Lexicon Valley to true over the history, culture, and many mysteries of English, plus some voice cracks. Find us on one of those apps where people listen to podcasts. Yeah, I agree with the whole heart of it. I 100% agree with well, you're spot on. So you mentioned the people, they took you up to top of a mountain top and you saw the people,

31:47the clouds is what you called them. Oh, I went back in September. My son and I, my son, they gave him some downloads and told him that we were to go to Mexico. And then they also came to me in some dreams and they wanted us to go to Mexico. So he bought us tickets and we got down there. And from the minute that we started the trip, this mother-son trip, we saw them every single night. They came to us. And again, that's how we learned that the three that come for him and they were not the three little ones that I had saw when my two sons were little. These were different. But we figured out they're never going to let us have our experiences together. So they talk about him to me, they talk about me to him, but they, it's, they will not put us in the same thing. But basically what they

32:50wanted us to go there for is they, we got to Mexico City and then we took a short flight over to Waaka. Waaka, how are we, my Spanish is not good at all. Anyway, so we rode a shuttle bus up three hours up into the mountains. And it was very primitive and was very cold. And nobody spoke English and it was no internet, no, few people had telephones and you had to find a hot spot anyway. Basically, it was also called the, the people of the clouds because the Zadol text are an indigenous tribe and they go back, their language goes back as far as the Incas and Mais. And they're indigenous to Mexico. And this is on that Pacific side on the southernmost state of Mexico. So when we got up there, it was the most echo friendly place I've ever seen in my life. These people, some of them had electricity. Many did not. But the ones that even had electricity,

33:55they collected rainwater. They had no running water other than rain collectors. And they did not have appliances. They cooked outside. They didn't have all, you know, all the fancy things or anything. They were very echo friendly. So basically, they wanted us to experience it. So when they came for me, they I walked outside our cabin and they took their hands out and said, everything is alive. Everything is alive. And they like was pointing at trees and plants. And they were telling me that our planet Earth is a living being and has a consciousness, our plants and our trees. Everything is alive and is a living being and has a consciousness. And that trees communicate, plants communicate. And their consciousness is not exactly like the human consciousness, but they communicate. And the reason why we can't see this is because we're in a 3D world.

35:00But as we reach higher consciousness and reach the fourth dimension on up, these things will start, we will start see these things. And they also explain to me that are the fourth dimension in these things are not physical places. These are higher consciousness. So and that is the goal is for us to reach higher consciousness and become more intelligent and realize that our world around us is changing, including our planet. She's going through her own ascension and she's changing and becoming higher consciousness or so. So they wanted us to understand that we, they love us, but we're just a very small part of what they love about our planet or they see her as a living being and a consciousness. And they see everything on it. So when we start playing with weapons of mass destruction, nuclear weapons, we are messing with everything on this planet.

36:06It disrupts the balance of nature. It disrupts our planet. It trickles into the universe. Disrupts the universe because we are all one. We are to be connected. We are all one. And what happens to us and what we do affects everything around us, we have forgot our connection to all things on our planet, including our planet. We've lost our connection long ago and a lot of indigenous tribes and stuff have always known their connection to the planet and to the nature and the world around us. So that was another reason they wanted to see the zapotectus because they were on the verge of ascension and it fell through because their younger generations got more interested in materialistic things and technology. So they abandoned their own people and left them there and they are now a dying race because and they were a beautiful race.

37:10Echo friendly and was just on the verge of reaching their own higher conscience. Like some of the other indigenous tribes that have done, but it just fell through. So they I guess they want to they want to just to see the impact that technology has to be used in the proper way. It is the man may tool keep it as a man may tool and that if we would use it properly and we'll use it to benefit all of humanity. Not just a select group of people but use it in the right way and us keep control over it because it is a tool that we designed. Keep use our intelligence and be in charge that it can be a beautiful thing. But not if we let the wrong people or just certain people take over and run wild with it. So basically they're just waiting for us to wake up and realize who we are because we have so many abilities and we can become so much greater by simply

38:19becoming higher consciousness and these things will start to activate and realize that these old ways of living no longer serve us. We do not need to be lied to about our heritage. We need to know our heritage. We all have a little bit of extraterrestrial in us. That's what the job DNA is and we need to know about our planet. A lot of things we don't know it all the real things about our planet and all the civilizations that have been here. There's so many things that we don't know but we are going to learn and we're going to wake up and we're going to learn and these things won't happen overnight but we'll learn through patience and time and higher consciousness. We will learn how to outgrow these old ways. There will be no more wars. There will be no more diseases. No more anything that no longer serves us because we'll simply outgrow it. There will be no need for

39:20these things and we'll become better to more positive human beings. And they're not here to take over or control. They're here to sit and watch and assist. That was beautifully said. It seems like you can write the download from having that experience. It was very beneficial and it's really interesting that it gives you a new perspective because you can see what you get, they don't just tell you, right? You get to see the results of what happens whenever you let this technology creep in and take over. Yes. Yeah. That was amazing. Like I say, they know this cannot happen overnight but they are very patient and they know how to do these things so that it's not going to be like where you look at night and day or black and white. These things, the way they explained it to me is that these things will like it's like a butterfly coming out of the cocoon. It comes out slowly

40:23and works its way to gain its physical strength so that it can fly away. And that's basically what we're doing. We are coming more conscious in a life and we're climbing out of our little shelves and realize in our place and our connection with our planet and also the universe in our place in the cosmic realm because we're all connected. And by the time we finally get to all that, it'll seem like it's always been that way. It's never going to just be like black and white. You know what I mean? It's a slow, it's everything is done with intention and design just like when we look at shells or we look at our bodies, how they were made. All these things were done with real intention and pure design. So it will be the same way. It's very apparent that it's not going to happen overnight. And what's interesting is whenever I first woke up and got into all this stuff, you always hear all these messages and

41:26channel messages saying soon, soon, but then five years later, you're like, okay, soon doesn't mean soon like we think it does. So, you know, at first it's always exciting and you think it's going to happen now, but you realize that like there's a lesson in this. Like there's patience. We have to, we have to take a step back and start working on ourselves and getting our shit together. You know, exactly. And instead of stop, we can't just want, want, want everybody else to do everything for us and disclose everything for us. You know, so I love your message. I think it's absolutely beautiful. It's about us looking inside, finding out who we are, not what the world around us has created. I'm Nancy on the outside, but what they've taught me is to look within the Nancy on the inside are ourselves are subconscious that knows all these things. So do you look with Hi, this is Alex Cantrowitz. I'm the host of big technology podcast a long time reporter and an

42:28on air contributor to CNBC. And if you're like me, you're trying to figure out how artificial intelligence is changing the business world and our lives. So each week on big technology, I bring on key actors from companies building AI tech and outsiders trying to influence it, asking where this is all going. They come from places like Nvidia, Microsoft, Amazon, and plenty more. So if you want to be smart with your wallet, your career choices and meetings with your colleagues and at dinner parties, listen to big technology podcast wherever you get your podcasts. And remember and a lot of this stuff, we already know they've always told me you already know and they they told me this is the way it is with humanity. We already know we just have to remember and then what it is is it's spiritual growth, not choosing a specific religion. I'm talking about spiritually becoming more conscious about who we are in our place in learning.

43:29What we can become, you know, and we can walk away from these negative things. It's amazing to me. I mean, they showed me how it all works. And you know, I know it sounds out there, but it is beautiful. It is so beautiful in its patience. Like you said, keeping patience, but we have to work at being better, learning to be more positive, walking away from negative things, walking away from the TV if it's negative, learning to refuse to have those things that are a lot. It's a new way of thinking and a new way of learning to live. It's like rising above like all the political and religious. Yes. Like those are almost programs, you know, politics and religion. And it's like it's about like rising above and breaking free from that and understanding there's so much more. And those are all in place. Almost maybe they can be used as like an evolutionary stepping stone,

44:32you know, to pull us from a lower level of consciousness. Oh, but then it's exactly that just a stepping stone and they're designed to keep you enslaved and keep you in the box. All those things were done intentionally to keep us dumbed down and keep us at a lower consciousness, but as we become more positive and we become more united than this, this spreads all over humanity and they cannot stop us. Right. It will not stop. You know, it's really interesting. He said it's they say that we already know all this stuff. Yes. We're just remembering. I can't even begin to tell you like just researching and doing what we do and my own awakening and the information that I come across, it should be shocking to me, but I know at a soul level that I already know this and when I read stuff and I'm learning about it, I'm actually not learning about it. I'm just remembering it. And that's why it's so easy for me to digest because some part of me knows all this stuff. All right. Not not like every

45:36little detail, you know, but you like somebody can lay a concept in front of you and like part of you already understands it. It's very in depth, but you might not understand intricate details, but somehow you you can feel that it's true, you know, and it's really interesting. It's like I remember that. That's why that's when something resonates. I don't I think that's what it is. It's like a remembrance. We're moving from beliefs to knowing because beliefs, you can believe all kinds of lies and you just believe that it's true because it feels good to you to believe it or your program to believe it is the mega true, right? Just because you believe something really strongly and we're moving away from that to you know a deep, deep level. You just know truth at the level and you know who you are. You know, that's the thing. So it's beautiful. It really is. And what's so neat is like what I said, we do know these things. We do know we just were just waking up. We've, you know, everybody, everybody across, I'm talking about the whole wide world. This is going

46:37to happen across the whole wide world. All of us waking up and realizing who we are. Right. Exactly. And they, you know, like it's always been about, I just saw a meme that's said it beautifully. Like they want us in our mind. They they steer us away from our intuition because when you're not using your intuition, you're easy to manipulate. And that's what this whole information more is about. They want everybody like externally grabbing onto all this information and second guessing and triple guessing everything and forgetting what they're gut told them originally about any of the information, you know, and they're like, well, wait, what is this? What is this? What is that? That's in place to confuse you. That's what that is. And ignore it if you have to. It doesn't matter. You have to walk away sometimes. You know, when I've learned to do that, you know, I've walked just some people going to just sit there and say negative, negative, and see the worst case. And I just walk away because everybody, everybody has to find their own way.

47:40You know, not everybody picks up on this stuff as quick, but eventually they will, eventually they will. So I have to because the world's going to keep going with or without them, you know, or change it. The whole world's changing. And yeah, and a lot of the conspiracy, even the craziest conspiracy theories are turning out to be true. Like the things that, like, like cloning, let's just say, like that's so obvious now, like it's even rappers, artists, I mean, everyone's talking about it's becoming like this crazy reality now, you know, but you was such a taboo thing a couple of years ago. And I think there's just a number of these things that people have refused to look at that are just going to become slowly integrated into our reality and things we have to accept. And it might not be the best thing, but it's understanding, like everything is a lie, like you said, you know, history is being rewritten basically. Like the trans human, the transhumanism agenda. I mean, for years, you know, people would poop who that is like crazy conspiracy theory. Now you have the world economic forum literally

48:40out there telling everyone, hey, we're going to edit your DNA and your humans are hackable animals that we can now control and all this stuff. They're literally just out there saying, they're not trying to hide it anymore because, you know, in my opinion, though, that desperate, they just, they're just throwing hillmarries and trying, trying everything they can. But they're on their last legs and they know. They're on their way out. Yeah. Yeah. And they know it and they're scared to death and they're just, yeah, because what they like being in control and they want to stay in control as long as possible because here's another thing too, you know, when I say they're a little well, from what I've been told and I believe everything they tell me, I promise you I do. We have the capability of becoming interdimensional ourselves, even with our like tweaking of our DNA and stuff and with their assistance because they are billions of years ahead of us in every single way. Our physics, our sciences do not apply. And these lower realm, there are no longer

49:45part of the collective consciousness. They are stuck in this galaxy that they cannot evolve any higher and they will not receive any assistance from any of the interdimensional. That's why they feed off of us, which is why they're parasites because they have to parasite off someone or something else. And they love the negative energy. They love it. They're completely, right, they love it. They're completely disconnected and they're like you said, they're stuck. So that's all they can do to survive. So they're hell-bent on just creating a slave system that they can just keep feeding off of and parasiting off of. And that's what I have a saying. Be so nice that the negative people can't stand you and they'll delete you. So that makes it easy for me. I don't even have to do anything. They get so sick of monotonous. They, they, they, they, they, this is on their own, right? I saw this video. This guy, he was, he's a professional troll for online. And I'm not joking. He had a whole room full of phones, iPads, computers, everything. And he would

50:50just go, he was baked like being interviewed. And he said he would go a negatively comment on all these posts and disagree with people just to feed off of the energy. And he, he explained it all in detail. Like it was just so matter of fact. He's like, yeah. And he would sit there and say this horrible thing to this person who didn't even know this account just to start an argument. He's just sitting there like loving it, like feeding off that. Yeah. And like that's exactly what we're looking at here. Like exactly. It's they're parasiting off of our consciousness in our energy. But it's, but it's not just like some of these trolls and some of these things that are in place. Like that guy, I mean, he has to have something working through him that's needing that because that's not a normal human desire, right? Right. Right. Yeah. It's, it's really weird. But I do know that what I've learned is that I have set a boundary around me. And regardless of what somebody says,

51:51sure, it may affect me, but I control my behavior, you know, and keep my mouth shut and control my behavior because they, I'm not going to let them take my positive energy away because that's all they want is to attack your energy. Yeah. I see it happening a lot. And if you come down to their level, they got you now. That's it. Exactly what they want. You fall into this. You're getting, you took the bait. You're all like dressed out and they're over there just like bathing in your loose, you know. Yeah. Right. Crazy. So working for the Department of Defense. What was your experience with that? And did you, you know, did you learn anything and discover anything about like the inner workings of our government and what their involvement is with all this? I lived in all story for like almost five years, a little before. And when I got back to United States, I applied for a job with the Department of Defense. And I got hired or I ended up going to Hawaii. And I

53:00went to Scofield Barracks. And before I got hired, though, I worked for three months for the American Red Cross as a volunteer at the dental clinic, which she'd be in to get a direct tire from the commander himself of Pacific Ram. But, um, and I just did that all on my own. And now I look back, I realized I had help. You know, the everywhere I went, I was having experiences and I was learning things in life. And so actually, I got hired because I was a dental assistant. But I did get exposed, to some 3D imaging technology, which when I got back from my trip for Mexico, it was about the time when they had the, um, not good mummies down at Mexico and stuff. So it helped me to understand about the 3D imaging that they did that radio grass that they used in and their hearings and things like that. So,

54:04um, for me, I could care less about who was presenting what, you know, I wanted to see the scientific, I wanted to see the X-rays because with those type X-rays, you cannot lie. You can tell, um, there's a different basic X-rays you take it and you're getting a picture of the front of something, or the back of something. But with 3D, the way that they do it, you like say a bone, rather than be in the out or the backside, you're going from the inside and you're seeing the whole thing, ligaments, nerves, endings, things that you don't see on a normal X-ray. So for me, I think it was a way for me to learn about technology and reading X-rays. And I do have a world wide radiology permit through the military. And so when they present these things and they're showing these X-rays up on screen, I can look at them and I know if they've been pampered or tinkered with. And so do these specialists

55:07that are looking at them too. So, that's, you know, everywhere I've ever lived, everything good or bad. And I've had bad things happen to me. I've experienced the whole human experience of good and bad. But I do feel like everything was instigated by the interdimensional because I had to experience everything that's happened to me to become who I am today. And to know myself, the inner me, not the outside me that the world around me created, but to know me, know me and my purpose in life. And where I'm going after I leave here and all these different things. So, and I am a different person. There's no doubt. I'm a happier person. And I love being a human being. And I love the world around me. And I see the world differently because, and I see everything around me differently because I understand my connection. Before I never knew I was

56:09connected to me thing. And I felt lost. You know, I wasn't a happy person because I knew I was missing out on something. Part of me was not found. But now I know the whole me and everything. And I love it. Well, it's, it's like, you're not fulfilled. It's something filling. And I noticed that whenever I used to travel, when I was before I woke up, and now we're going these vacations, these 3D, you know, lazy vacations, right? Yeah. There was something missing. Like you're going to these beautiful parts of the world. But it was just, it was something missing. I'm like, this is, this isn't it. But now that I, well, now when I travel, we're going to these ancient sites and we're doing energy work and like, re-plugging into ley lines and do, I mean, whatever, like, there's just, there's such a, yeah, such a fulfillment. And it opens your eyes that you just really, you see it. Yeah. It means it might seem so insignificant to somebody else. But when you're in out there doing that work and just going to these sacred places and feeling that energy and being

57:10accurate and that energy exchange, it's like, this is what traveling, this is what I wanted to feel when I went to Mexico, not, you know, not the all inclusive resort, the pre-packaged vacation. That's not a vacation to me. No. But you know, you were talking about how you, you sense the energy and stuff. That's the thing about extraterrestrials and interdimensional. For me, it was never about what they looked like. For me, it is the frequency exchange. We being human, we're on a very low frequency. So when we come in contact with an extraterrestrial or interdimensional, there are a higher frequency. So I, that difference is very, very strange in your brain does not know what to do with it. You know, you don't know if it's a good thing or a bad thing. So it took me a long time to get to understand, you know, what it is I was feeling, you know, and that it was

58:11because I was a lower frequency and it felt so far and in strength to me. But now I've learned and grown into it and I am at a higher frequency because of them. You know, they would rate, I guess, over time they've been raising my frequency to, you know, to make me so aware of the world around me. But it's the same thing that you feel when you're around them, you will know what I'm talking about from beginning at these great places. You'll get that same energy off of them and it's a beautiful thing. What do you think it is and what do you think the reality of the situation is of human looking extraterrestrials among us walking around that we probably walk past at the mall or the grocery store? Do you think that is really happening? They're here among us in that capacity? Yes, I've seen some and the reason I know that it is is because I can feel the frequency

59:12difference and also they have a way of blending in and they can, for example, I'll just tell you, I was at a grocery store shopping and I noticed this guy and I could tell he was totally dressed differently. He was totally stood out not being a normal person in the area but everybody around, nobody else noticed it like I did and he was like eight people behind me in the checkout line but he managed to, they, everybody in line let him go in front and he got right up there with me because he knew who I was. I knew who he was but he was able to like, I guess telepathically, he was like, could I move up please? Could I move up please? And they were like, oh, sure, go ahead, go ahead. You know, so yeah, they can blend in but they were not. He was not doing anything wrong. They

1:00:13just wanted to experience the human experience. We're very fascinating creatures. We're very different. You know, we have emotions. They don't make things are very different. So yeah, they'll come down and say what it's like. What do you think the motive is behind them normalizing the UFOs right now and mainstream media like, like, let's just take for instance the Super Bowl. I'm sure you probably didn't watch it but my cousin sent me a text. He's like, I don't know if you're watching the game at every commercial, but I could show an aliens and UFOs and he's like, and even he came to the conclusion like, he's like, I'm not into this but it seems like they're trying to normalize it. They are. And then there's an app. I'm scrolling through X to date with her and then add pops up for a UFO app and it's like a UFO tracker app and and it's just like, they're putting it out there more than ever. But what is what do you think? Louis Alessandro, David Grush, Chris Malin, all these guys talking about it's all of the media.

1:01:15This is the way I see it and the way I understand it. One, they are here. They've been here. They are here in great number and they are like putting love energy all around our planet. They are helping humanity raise to raise our consciousness to be better humans and they are focusing in on it. And they are here. The government knows they are here. The problem is the government because they've done dealings with these other ones that what I call the negative in the past. And because at one time they tried to do some exchange with governments but the governments would not relinquish nuclear weapons. And as you know, they've come down here many, many times in turn these things off. And they're not going to allow us to play around with stuff like that

1:02:19because it's they don't want us to wipe ourselves out but they love our planet and they love every little thing on it. And there's lots of indigenous people still here. So they're not going to allow that. So they are focused in extraterrestrials, interdimensional are focused in on humanity. They're a progen humanity and we are at the point where they can because we are all waking up. Right. So they don't have to go through government. They don't need to go. Right. Right. Right. But do you think there's some kind of dark agenda going on that the media and the deep state is trying to like get ahead of disclosure and like stir us into death? Right. They are billions of years ahead of us. There is nothing technology wise to even come close to what they have and the government knows this but the government does not want to be the first one to say we have no control over this these extraterrestrials because that makes them look bad to other

1:03:26governments. Then we're like well we're going to listen to those guys and not you. So they're all at a standoff. Right. And I think they're waking on the James Webb telescope to find something and then that will be the way that the government will say well yeah James Webb there's life on series blah blah blah. Right. And they're they're hoping that that it will happen that way because nobody wants to take the lead apparently and nobody wants to answer to the 70 years of rise question and all the bad things were done. Also that. The way that I look at that a lot of things are going to surface and a lot of people are going to be crushed shell shot. It's not going to be nice but overall we are going to have to be a forgiving forgiving nation or nations and realize that a lot of the people that made those mistakes and did the horrible deeds are no longer

1:04:27alive and realize that it was something that humanity I guess had to experience to get us where we are today and to know that we're not going to repeat those horrible things that were done. And I always say something I've realized I should say is that like all this suppression of technology and your foes and existence of ET's all of it it's ultimately assisted us and a did us to and it forced us on our own awakening journey like our own healing journey because now like if all that stuff had been readily available for us would we all be trying to heal the soul level no we would just be nonchalantly going about you know taking advantage of all this technology probably in our ego and and there wouldn't be this awakening like it really forced us into an awakening so maybe right maybe it like it had to happen it was something it does and they these things happen everything that ever happens is done and it's all done so that overall everybody

1:05:34will benefit the same not just certain people but we have to learn and look at our past mistakes and that was part of our growth and part of how we're going to become the humans that changed the world we're going to be the generation that made the change and I think we'll go down in history as being the generation of disclosure the generation that woke up and learned how to better serve humanity and use your generations of humanity because of these things and this is all of us all of us are doing it all every single one of us are a part of this and we all from everything in my heart knows we all chose to be here at this time and we're all a part of it this is all of us waking up and work changing the world around us and our world is changing and she's going to work with us more and more because she's she's been waiting on us to

1:06:39you know our planet yeah yeah yeah I agree I agree and I think I think you're right like we're all part of this shift we are here to change it and it's pretty I mean it doesn't seem like it right so we're just doing a podcast right no you're doing more than that but that's where I was going like it doesn't seem like like I'm just in here doing this every week it doesn't take a whole lot of effort it takes you know it takes work but it's amazing but it's like it's a proof that you don't have to work as hard and you can still make such a difference right and it's it's really all about like what you're sharing and you know not how much or that you know the quality of the content but what you're actually sharing the information you know it all it all works together and it expands because of the of the truth of it and the goodness of it it will expand and grow and grow and grow yeah exactly yeah and I think you're right about the government like I think what they're

1:07:44doing right now with this this UFO like normalizing it I think they're trying to get ahead of the narrative they know it's coming right from they know and they're scared of it but if they can get that if they could get the story they could get a hold of the story and tell you this is what it's happening it's before they can tell us before the interdimensional can tell us or whatever but it's not going to work it's obviously they're they're literally delusional I mean sociopath delusional yeah it's I think that it's kind of like the story got too big and they don't know how to go backwards and try to fix it all yeah that makes any sense to you you know there's so much damage right right well in the sands of times books the shan david morten books it's up 40 years mishaddle governments inside story and amazing amazing books amazing but one of the things they talk about it's it starts from the 40s when it comes all recurrent but they they're talking about a time when before the internet and they're having

1:08:48conversations about how they're how much harder their job is going to become once the internet hits the scene this is back then obviously because they they had it pretty much wrapped up they knew how to keep it secret and they knew how they knew how to control their disinformation programs and all that stuff but the internet like they still even when the internet came out they still you know they were they could they could play whack a mole and they could keep it under control but now they can't now they can't now they don't it can't move fast enough you know and they're still trying yeah they're still trying yeah they're still doing YouTube channels and Facebook profiles and well there's no question I'm on the disclosure is going to continue and it doesn't matter what these governments do it's it's happening it's happening all around us in anybody can see it and they know it are we wouldn't be seeing it on the right football game commercials eight times you know right right yeah and yeah and obviously like you say so many more people are open to it now and curious about it than ever before like like you said like 50 years ago you could hardly talk to

1:09:54anyone about this without being either ridiculed laughed at or told it's demonic or just not just playing not interested well now all these people are suddenly interested they're like wait a second there's something to this they're starting to pay attention they're starting to get curious and interested because they know they're it's really they know that it's real like we're waking up we know they're real there's something to it and it's very important it's not the most important thing you know life here that's from elsewhere like that's the most important you know come on yes and we you know we're very lucky to be alive at this time and experience and this it's amazing to me it's amazing yeah exactly it is it is amazing and it's but it's also interesting and concerning because we see a lot of the pushback from the other side right now the the open satanic rituals and like it's in your face it's like they're trying to recruit as many people as they can on their team because they know the splits occurring but one thing I notice

1:10:54about this satanic information is there's information out there now that claims that all ETs all the ascended masters everything that anything organic that we thought was organic was all created by the Satanist and it's not real don't believe it you know read your Bible the end or it's all or it's all demons or it's all demonic people yeah and and people out there smart people are pushing are pushing this they're like they're are they're they're still like the Syrians the Pleiadians are Turions of Dominance that's all demons are all created by the Satanist here's the paperwork dating back to whatever year it shows how they created it I'm like if there's ever if there's if there's ever a siop or or an example of this information that's it because wouldn't they love for us to believe that they're responsible for all of it yeah they would love the they would love those Satanists would love for us to believe that they created the endramanists they created the Syrians the Pleiadians the ascended masters they're they're they're so powerful and when people

1:11:56believe that they did create all that stuff they're only giving them that much more power it's like how do you not see it yeah they love for you to believe that right like you said that's yeah exact and they love for you to believe that they're the that the cabal the women I wear if you want to call it is this all powerful all powerful group that can do anything and you have no power it's exact opposite we're the ones with the power oh we are giving that we're the ones giving that when we unite right game no stopping us game over right exactly and that's what I've been told and that's what I'm I say it and I'm seeing visions of it it's it's there's no stopping us and you know that's reminds me of something so the the solar eclipse is coming up yeah and they're and they're already predicting historical cloud coverage on the day of the eclipse like months in advance like they're putting it out there already but that obviously we know they plan on spraying that day for whatever reason but I'm like okay what if we just did some type of mass meditation

1:12:59and clear the cloud coverage or clear whatever aerosol or spraying and just you know set the intention like anybody listening to this right now maybe we could do some sort of meditation or just even like once a week we can do something up until that point just to see if we can get a sunny day you know yeah yeah I don't know it'd be interesting to try well there's the the my have you heard of the maharishi effects that was that's been proven where what was it like 7,000 people all meditated for world peace and at the exact time they meditated it was the the statistics of crime went down by like 75% all these things went down by 75% and they they they prove that it couldn't have been like any other factor other than that and that's not that and that's been proven over and over and over again like scientifically this this is real like we we affect we're all one like you said we're all connected yeah our consciousness affects everything else and also when they when extraterrestrials you know when we start the higher higher we reach we vibrate and give

1:14:02off a frequency and it vibrates around the whole planet and they see this and when they see this they will help us because that's all they're waiting on it's all right exactly they know they know we have the power within us and just we've just been manipulated in the second we wake up it's game oh they know that and they're they're supporting us from the sidelines so to speak and they're they're making sure we're not going to wipe ourselves out or or no one else is going to wipe us out of the planet but they're but they're like you guys you're doing it come on like yeah go they're on the sidelines well they know they know they know people are going to get sick of working their 40-hour job and panic the people are going to have enough like they're they're going to hit a boiling point it's just going to happen well we shouldn't be living like that and those things can change and again not overnight but we should be you know if we do technology right technology can do a lot of our work and it will benefit everybody and we can enjoy being

1:15:03anywhere from being in our young childhood to young seniors to older seniors and not have to worry about all these having a social security number paying taxes and all these things because there is no such thing as time with interdimensional and extra thresholds there is no such thing as currency you know everything that we ever needed is here on earth we don't need pharmaceutical companies we every every plant there's plants here to cure everything and either they're sitting on it which I think they are and they are manipulating us to keep us because they can't make money off of healthy right and intelligent human beings so to keep us dumb and sick and dying and we don't even get to enjoy being by the time where we are most people are disabled or sick spending 80 percent of our time working a job that we hate just to make ends meet and survive and we don't that's it that's not how we were designed and that's not that's not the future for humanity at all

1:16:05right and it won't happen overnight but we will change into these things right that that whole retirement it's a retirement trap it's not retirement it is it is it's not planned it's a trap you know the trap right we will finally have our freedom yeah we've never had our total freedom well yeah right yeah think about think about what the retirement plan does is somebody it's like man if I work so many hours this year yes and I work and you know if I work so hard now and when I'm 55 they they what did they just moved the aid the retirement age to 70 now 70 yeah they moved it to 70 so when I'm at once I'm 70 exactly 15 years of my life I can actually enjoy it's like well what about what if you what if you just live your life right now work why don't we start thinking that way like why let's travel now and do all this up now while we're young and that I started doing I quit my job in 2019 with no plan and the universe

1:17:07took the wheel and all these opportunities showed up that I would have never even imagined and I'm here doing it and I don't even know how it's possible like the way I live my life shouldn't be possible but I'm doing it and and it's amazing because yeah I had to I made I made that leap that leap of faith like it's a real thing it is real and and that's the way of the future is we need to be enjoying our life our life our lifetimes are very very short compared to any of their beings and they want to help us with that we can live longer and and we can live without all these diseases without wars live and happiness we're supposed to be living way longer we're designed a little yes hundreds and hundreds of years not need pharmaceutical companies and we do not need um all fields and all this stuff I mean we have all these things are at our are here but they've been suppressed and kept from us right and be desmanipulated and

1:18:09depended upon them so I want to say them I mean the bad guys yeah right right and you mentioned like they're just all like they're kind of waiting for us you're just waiting for and that's what happened with me when I'm only going to share the story because it helped I've noticed every time I share that's helpful people and George when I quit my job like when I knew like every day it was just sucking my soul like it was really a soul sucking job and I wanted to quit but I didn't know how I didn't know how was gonna make ends be I just didn't know and like all these synchronicities kept showing up until one what one day was hilarious like so many synchronicities is like okay this is like this is the final sign if I don't do something now then I'm never going to do it right and I made the decision right there in the middle of the day at work I was in construction and I made the decision in the middle of the day I'm I'm quitting and I literally text my boss as I hate can we meet for lunch and I want to talk and he's like well why don't you just tell me now and I knew I was gonna just tell him I was just gonna call him and tell him I could I had made a decision it was so solidified in my mind and as soon as I made that decision I got

1:19:15this vision I was never expecting this in a million years I got this vision of like my guides basically standing around like a crystal ball you could say watching me and they were celebrating like like somebody just won a Super Bowl like they were like like oh my god like I can imagine them up there be like oh my god is he doing it oh my god finally holy shit he's doing it yeah just like jumping up and they were hugging each other and they just showered me with this like blissful love energy that I can't even describe there's nothing to compare to and I started I broke down in tears on the job site and luckily there was like a bathroom to hide in because you know you're not crying in a construction site yeah and so I'm like bawling my eyes out because I could I saw this vision and they just showered me with all this love it but let me know that it was okay and like yes this is the right decision and I made the phone call and it was so easy and I quit and like a couple days a couple days later this amazing opportunity showed up that I would have

1:20:17had to say no to had I had a job but I didn't like you know and and it was just a whole beautiful journey and you've been fine ever since without it sometimes it's just simply a leap of faith and trusting in yourself you know right it's amazing story yeah yeah and I mean I'm not telling everyone to just go quit your job like you know they're not all in a position I happen to luckily be in a position where I could and you know trust the universe if that's what you think it's like to do then do it but but do it in a way that you know is it's the right path for you right yeah absolutely well Nancy this has been a beautiful conversation I know I love it I could talk forever right this this has been this has been absolutely wonderful will you please let our audience know where they can find you if you have anything to offer please share that yeah my website is time

1:21:17for disclosure dot com and then I have Facebook group uh and I belong to a lot of different groups I I belong to a lot and I um promote all of them you know because they're all great and I think they all work together we're all working together to help humanity reach higher consciousness and for us to be better human beings and we like to keep trolls out of the room so we all you know want to keep good positive energy so um yeah the my Facebook group is time for disclosure we've never been alone and we are the disclosure and I truly believe we all are the disclosure mm-hmm yes we are we are I mean we've been disclosing this stuff every week for five years now and that's how it happens people are going to be from the TV you know so um thank you so much this has been a lot of fun and we just want to remind everyone listening to us for one thank you all for the support and everything since we've moved over to rumble and all the new people who jumped

1:22:18on our patreon we cannot thank you enough for all the overwhelming support and um if you feel compelled to join us at our conference and may it may 13th through the 16th and graffin Illinois revels of disclosure dot com those tips are still available that link is below and we'd love to see and don't forget our q operation webinar is this Sunday at four central five eastern and that will be a patreon exclusive so it's only five dollars to sign up but um it is interactive and there's a chat you can join and we're really excited to share everything we've learned and found and rediscovered it's been a lot of fun diving back into that information and I think you guys will be really happy with what we put together so um is there any last words from either of you guys before we wrap this up no thank you so much yes thank you so much Nancy you're you're an inspiration thank you so much for thank you so much we're absolutely yeah we love you all good night and have a great evening yeah can I guys

1:23:32in the road time grabs you by the rest direction where to go so make the best of this task and don't ask why it's not a question but a lesson learning time it's something unpredictable and in the end is right I hope you at the time of your life so take the photographs and still friends in your mind hanging on a shelf in good health and good time tattoos and memories and their skin on trial for what it's worth it's worth all the while it's something unpredictable but in the end is right I hope you at the time of your life

1:24:55it's something unpredictable but in the end it's right I hope you at the time of your life it's something unpredictable but in the end is right actually I was quote and Sherry that's the last time Brad will ever quote me hey guys we hope you can join us this year at the Rebels of Disclosure Conference in Graffton Illinois the Peer Market Lodge and Conference Center May 13th through the 16th as

1:25:59you can see we have tons of fun we've made some great memories and we just wanted to take this opportunity to extend the invite to all of you who've never been it's so much fun and it's so important to connect with soul family and we just really look forward to seeing everyone out there yeah I hope to see you all there it's a blast it's really something that you have to experience to to know how amazing it is and it's so much more than just the speakers it's just it's an amazing time and it's amazing to connect with soul family so we hope to see you all there and all that information is below at RebelsOfDisclosure.com so grab a ticket and join us we hope to see you there