Ep. 2498 - My Response to Piers Morgan and Milo Yiannopoulos

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2:01What happened to her? They didn't used to be that way. We're gonna go through some of these people because they are in fact shaping our political life in all the dumbest ways. Because people love car wrecks like they go to watch car wrecks, a lot of these people get pretty good numbers. And then they use those numbers to proclaim that they are on the cutting edge of populist politics and then actual political figures follow them. So here is a solution. Do not donate your attention to them. There are only so many breaths you have in this life. And you're not going to get these breaths back. We'll get to my logianopolis's tragic deportation story complete with tears and weirdness plus. Tyler Robinson's murder of Charlie Kirk has had to trial and under Biden announces he'll exude because hey, why not? This is the Ben Shapiro show. Now listen, I get that even by talking about these terrible people, I'm giving a lot of them more attention than any of them deserve. But here's the thing, they already have a lot of attention and pointing out and warning you that they deserve

3:01not that attention is the idea. If you don't know what they're doing and if you don't know how they are rigging the game, they're not going to be able to avoid it. The verse from Deuteronomy has come true each evening. I go to sleep thinking. It certainly cannot be more atarded than it was this morning. And then I wake up in the morning and I think, oh God, I just wish it were as retarded as it were last night. So for those who don't know, there is a human named Milo Yanopolis and he was pretty popular for a short period of time back in 2015, 2016 as a flamboyantly gay men saying transgressively edgelord things. He was a brainchild of Steve Vannon, another political grifter. And then it turned out that Milo Yanopolis was very much in favor of pre-sraping underage boys as a sort of maturation process. He said that on tape and then things kind of imploded on him. Whoopsie, but no one ever really goes away. He stuck around. He interned from Marjorie Taylor Green, another great intellect of our time because the retarded Griffithra employment network is alive and well. He appeared as a guest on Tucker Carlson

4:02and Candace Owens because well, you know, he ran a campaign with Kanye West. And oh yes, he became a supposedly ex gay man who was militantly Christian. And then it turns out he overstayed his visa and he was deported because he was here illegally. And now he's showing up on Pierce Morgan's show because of course he is. Of course he is because Pierce Morgan is the Bonnie Blue of politics, a total click war who revels in the fact that he has thousands upon thousands of Johns and he will put it on video for you to watch and monetize. And this brings us to last night, hilarious, entertaining, multiple clown car crash on Pierce Morgan's show. I mean, pretty much carnage, hilarious, hilarious carnage. And again, I'm not somebody who tends to revel in the suffering of people who are deported. I've not been in favor of much of the triumphalist rhetoric online when it comes to deportation. But when you spend your entire political career being the worst human being possible

5:02and then you get deported in pretty quick fashion and then you go on Pierce Morgan's click board in order to lament your own tragicness treatment. I'm sorry, Shoyden Freud's a thing. So here was Milo Yanopolis. I just so you know who Milo Yanopolis is so you understand just what a terrible person he is. Back in February of 2025, Milo tweeted this, quote, I effing love tyranny. Again, he was a person who is very much in favor of the brutal treatment of pretty much everybody. He's also the kind of person who after Dennis Prager had his tragic accident in which he broke his spine and ended up paralyzed. He tweeted, God's wrath has found Dennis Prager and his many terrible sins. I gather he felt recently out of the shower and severed his spinal column, paralyzed, quivering, drooling silence such a freakish accident worthy of final destination. What to call it but an act of God's. That's who Milo Yanopolis is. It's important to recognize this before you fall

6:02for his drama queen trick. Now it gets to be the drama queen of England, which is exciting. So he's been deported back to his homeland and here he was describing his horrific treatment. By the way, he basically was picked up and deported within 24 hours. He didn't wait for months in a cell with MS13 members which Milo may have enjoyed, but here was Milo. Sure, it was humiliating and it was disorientating the rest of it. It was physically degrading. It was orientating. It was frightening. It was frightening. I don't think I've ever been frightened like that before. Just not how emotional of you being through this period. I've never been like this before. I tripped and kind of tumbled down the stairs a not or two ago and I'm a clumsy person so that it's not the rarest thing in the world, but it sets something off from when I'd been kind of shoved down a couple of steps and I was weeping like an old woman for an hour. And I was like, oh, I really have to get this out of my system. I think maybe in the past I've been a little bit blasé

7:05when people talked about their trauma a little bit kind of cavalier when people talked about, you know, stuff kind of lingering with them, but I get it now. And I wouldn't wish it on anyone. He literally wish it on everyone. Literally he did that. So yeah, playing the sympathy card here, Madood, that's gonna be a no on that. He also says that 15 agents swarmed him and he didn't eat for 24 hours. 24 whole hours he didn't eat. I mean, looks like he could stand a Mr. Meal or two, but in any case, the first I heard of it was when 15 agents swarmed me at Louisiana airport and it didn't get any less theatrical from there on. I was moved. I didn't eat for 24 hours. I was promised a nurse that never came. I promised a phone call that never came. I was promised all kinds of things that never came. I mean, you know, just about everything that you hear

8:05that people are supposed to have as far as, you know, rights and, and, you know, abilities when they get arrested, I did not have. Nobody would tell me anything. Man, the suffering. Oh. That's the host. And then Milo says that actually two of the agents were so offended that they walked off the job, which I don't believe for one solid single solitary second. Two of the ICE agents during this process recognized me from 2016 when I was a big supporter of the president. And one of them said something along the lines of, yeah, I'm not doing this. And the other one said something along the lines of, this is not what I got into this for. And at least one of them, and I think two of them walked off the job because they didn't want to do it. And another pairing of ICE agents who took me to the airport in Houston told me that they were getting calls from Washington every 20 minutes. But where is he? Where is he? Where is he?

9:06This was not a normal, lawful process. Okay, so Griffith MacGrift a lot is back in Britain. Pierce Morgan had some very specific questions for Milo Unapples who claims to be ex-Gay. And by ex-Gay we mean he's not ex-Gay at all. He says that he is married to a man that he does not have sex with, which of course, Pierce was all over this one. Because when you run the click board, Ellie, you gotta find out what's happening in all of the rental rooms. So what family do you have back in America at the moment? Your wife? Well, I'm married to an American. I've got a dependence. I've got cats. I've got employees. I have a wife there. I've been there for 10 years. Or everything is there. You're married to an American woman? No. Man. Was that been, I don't want to prying just like that. I don't. I know you've, I mean, you're a gay man and you're married to a gay man. I, yes, I don't. I don't, I don't do the sex stuff anymore. But yes.

10:06Listen, I'm only asking because I just want to know what family you have left America. Yeah. Where is your, where is your spouse? They're living in the same, in the same house and the other, at the other end of the, of the corridor. Which state is this? This is in California. In California, in LA. Yes. Right. Hmm. Hmm. Uh, I'm just going to put out that we don't need this person in our country. We do not, we never needed this person in our country as it turns out, actually. He put out an entire piece at the spectator because again, drama queen is going to drama queen. It is titled, I am a persecuted human rights icon. Which of course, he's a victim. He's such a victim that he's enjoying this. I mean, I'm not sure that I'm, you know, an opalist enjoys this kind of thing. He's really enjoying this. And the, the attention is, is what gives him his eye. Quote, like it or not, this makes me a political prisoner, a persecuted human rights icon. I am Mahatma Gandhi. I am Nelson Mandela. Without my rosary, I prayed on the plane with open hands instead. That still works. So do motions to reopen. I'll be fine.

11:07I had a frightening weekend. This will be an expensive few months. I will make it home eventually. I miss my bangles more than any American person. They're sea still again, but not so cruel as America still wedded at age 250 to brazen corruption and barbarism. So all this is crazy. Why are we paying attention to it? That is the big question. But here's the thing. You only have so many things you can pay attention to. And one of the things you forget about is your cell phone coverage. Because you purchase it. You don't think about it ever again, but you're spending a lot of money on it, like right now. And switching is really time consuming, right? You walk into a store because you need a phone plan. 20 minutes later, somebody's explaining promotional credits, upgrade eligibility, activation fees, trade-ins, 17 different tiers. And eventually, they're just like, okay, whatever, man, I just need the coverage, okay? But pure talk has a much simpler proposition. If you think you're paying too much for subpar service, now's the way time to switch. In a recent industry survey, pure talk was the only wireless company to receive five stars in every category. Coverage, support, value, and data. And now for just a few more weeks, pure talk is offering unlimited data for just 15 bucks a month, fear for us three months.

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13:10we transform ourselves from individuals and members of the herd. And before we know it, the seat of error can become a copying cascade that devours all other knowledge and leaves a collective illusion in its wake. It's terrifyingly easy to start a copying cascade. And well, the copying cascade online is extraordinarily easy to start. This is, by the way, the reason why, for example, peers Morgan's defense to literally every charge of immorality is that he gets lots of clicks. Because his idea is that if he gets lots of clicks, then that means other people will agree with him because he's getting a lot of the clicks. Now, listen, it turns out that political pornography involving rubber chickens and myeloyanopolis's chased gay marriage will probably get some clicks. But that doesn't mean that you should follow that. It doesn't mean that the attention economy ought to dictate politics. And if people fall for that intellectual trap, you got a problem. It turns out that when the public starts to substitute clicks for judgment, then people end up following some of the most idiotic and immoral people internationally in America. By the way, the founders feared the mob for this reason.

14:12This is why the founders were fans of checks and balances in government. And we're not fans of pure democracy. They were fans of enshrined rights that were not subject to the whims of the majority because human beings are in fact, culpable and they do in fact follow the crowd in the online space where the crowd is viral. That means often following the dumbest people off the highest cliffs, which brings us to Tyler Robinson's case. So Tyler Robinson allegedly murdered Charlie Kirk, literally all the evidence demonstrates that he murdered Charlie Kirk. According to the Daily Wire, a Utah judge ruled on Tuesday. And Tyler Robinson will stand trial on all seven charges on the assassination of conservative leader Charlie Kirk, leaving him eligible for the death penalty if convicted of aggravated murder. After hearing hours of closing arguments from the defense and prosecution, fourth district judge Tony Graff found that the state had established probable cause, meaning there was sufficient evidence for the case to proceed to trial. Robinson faces one count of aggravated murder, one count of felony discharge of a firearm causing serious bodily injury, two counts of obstruction of justice, two counts of tampering with witness, one counts of committing a violent offense

15:13in the presence of a child, according to court records. The judge allowed the aggravated murder charge to move forward, which makes the charge eligible for the death penalty. So Robinson's attorneys don't really have a choice, they're not gonna plead this one out. The answer not guilty, please, on his behalf, on all seven charges and Charlie Kirk's parents and his widow, Erica Kirk appeared in court on Tuesday, the Kirk family put out a statement, the Erica Kirk's account. He said, quote, today's decision, which comes nearly a year since Charlie was taken from us, Marx an important step in our family's pursuit of justice for him. Every step in this process carries the weight of all that Charlie's murder has taken from his family, especially his children who will grow up without their father. We are grateful to all of you continue to pray for us to support us and stand with us through a year of unimaginable grief. As the next phase of the judicial process begins, our family remains united and our love for Charlie, our commitments to the pursuit of justice and our prayer for a transparent and timely process. Now, when I talk about the grifters, as a first of all, they're the grifters on the left who have been promoting the trans agenda,

16:13which is a permission structure for violence for very long time. In fact, have a Robinson's defense lawyer basically tried to excuse the alleged murder by claiming that Charlie was mean to the trans. It is true that Mr. Kirk spoke hatefully of certain groups of people. He spoke hatefully of people who don't have triggered additional norm-conforming gender identities. He spoke hatefully of people who are not strictly heterosexual. He spoke hatefully of people who have sexual relationships out of marriage. And yes, it is true that the evidence from Mr. Twigs is that he identified in a non-gender conforming way to his friends and that he was in a romantic relationship.

17:13With Mr. Robinson. But that doesn't mean that those personal choices by Mr. Twigs and by Mr. Robinson equate with the hate that at least Mr. Robinson says he had toward Mr. Kirk. So we don't know what that is. Okay, and the permission structure for violence that is created by the very online on the left is very real. But it's the same thing on the right again. Don't follow the retardos fear Candace Owens, who has made a small, actually mid-sized cottage industry out of slandering Charlie Kirk's family, put out a tweet, quote, go find every single worthless influencer who lied and gasp for months about this case, claiming that Tyler Robinson turned himself in and subsequently admitted his guilt. We simply do not hate these people enough, but they actually want us for the American court process to run a guilty until proven innocent process. It is utterly monstrous to insist that someone should be put to death before they are given a fair trial. And while a few of these influencers do it at a sincere stupidity,

18:13the majority of them do it for money. Again, every accusation for folks like Candace is an admission. Better stated they are prostitutes, says the woman who literally sells gear based on the murder of Charlie Kirk. We're at the beginning of this trial and every one of their lives will be exposed by the end of it. The best thing about Candace Owens is Stick is that basically she's like, behind this curtain I have something for you, a revelation and then the curtain is room, and it's another curtain. And behind that curtain, there is yet another curtain. It's an endless series of curtains, but don't worry behind the next one will be the secret that solves your life. It's probably the Jews, but it might not be the Jews, but it's the Jews. And another curtain. Also, Candace Owens, one of the worst people in American public life here she was, ripping into Erica Kirk, again, calling her a soul-sucking Dementor. The barrel of this company is over. I'm just gonna be frank with you. Erica Kirk, to me, I describe her. When she speaks, I feel like my soul is being sucked. She is a Dementor that should be guarding Azkaban. Every time she speaks, I just feel depressed.

19:15I do. She says like this and I'm like, oh my gosh, I just feel like a prisoner in Azkaban and my soul is being sucked. She can't lead this company. She doesn't have the spark. She doesn't have the intelligence. She doesn't even have the emotional intelligence. Right? This person has a lot of fans. Again, the attention economy leads to pretty bad results, pretty bad results, including, for example, people who are still fans of the Tates. So sort of fascinating investigation into Andrew Tates, little fake empire. It turns out his own defenceless are now claiming that he was renting all those expensive cars and all the rest. Well, according to straight arrow news, a leak of sensitive information from the manosphere influencer Andrew Tates online empire reveals. His war room program teaches men to accumulate wealth, attracting control women, and penetrate the elite, including by exploiting the sexual misbehavior of wealthy acquaintances. So apparently, his penetrating the elite class

20:16in his war room program offers espionage training for subscribers aimed at digging up secrets on wealthy individuals for leverage in business deals. So literally running an Epstein scam. I literally trying to find information to blackmail people and this person was again, touted by people who are fairly highly respected on the conservative right. The attention economy creates an incentive for retardation and the retardation that affects your politics, which is why you have people like Alex Jones and Sneakow are somehow part of our political conversation. Sneakow, who literally took an online IQ test and got a 95. 95 isn't good. For those who have a 95 IQ, 95 is a bad score. The average American IQ is 100. Genius level stuff from Sneakow. But don't worry, he and Alex Jones have conversations to the joy of millions. There was Alex Jones versus Sneakow recently.

21:17Turkey, Turkey, myology. Oh, look, look, look, look. Look, look, look, look. We got a lot of money. The women, the slavery that we take the women is slaves of the right. And in short, lie, and pay short, lie, you become Abdul Alex Jones. Oh, God. God. Really? Hmm. Hmm. So folks, here is my plea. It's a plea, okay? Really, for the sake of your own brain cells, which are being wiped out at an extraordinary rate in the attention economy of today, do not follow these people, do not do this, do not do this to yourself. This is your warning for today. All these shows should come with a warning label. You're about to annihilate entire segments of your prefrontal cortex and make yourself actively dumber. And in the process, by the way, make politics dumber because politicians follow incentives. And if they see that people get a lot of clicks,

22:17they tend to follow those people. This happens on the left. It also happens on the right and spending a lot of time ripping on the left for their unwillingness to divide off from, say, Hassan Piker, which of course is shocking and astonishing and indicative of where they are politically. But if the right does the same thing by embracing all of these figures, again, Milo was traveling in these circles, interned from archery, Taylor Greene, frequent guest on people like Tucker Carlson, Tucker Carlson himself, a grifter extraordinaire, very close to the vice president of the United States. People in positions of power on the right who continue to pat on the head or hug many of the members of the grift industrial complex of the retardo sphere. This is a bad and stupid way to do politics. And here's what you can do as an American. You cannot give your attention in attention economy to these sorts of folks, because when you do, you're creating a political incentive for people to follow them. And that would be a gigantic mistake for Republicans need to avoid the trap here. It's a trap. All Americans really want, politically speaking, is normality.

23:18Nothing we have seen for the past 20 odd minutes is normal. If you follow this, you will not end up in a position of victory. It's like letting Jerry Springer dictate a Republican party platform. Don't do it. Now, again, the attention economy and the skewing of politics to meet it. And of course not relegated to the right. It's very much on the left as well. And an attention economy, like any other economy, there's a competition. There's a race for better quality and lower price. Hunter Biden is attempting to raise everybody to the bottom. No double on Andre implied, although kind of a little. Uh, Hunter Biden yesterday announced that he was 48% gay. Best tweet on this, somebody's tweeted, well, then he's by then. Hunter economy, 100 Biden, wandering the wasteland that is our nation, explaining that he is into male appendages.

24:18Are you gay? Only a little bit. I think more or less than 50% what? More or less than 50%? 48.6. Hmm. Hmm. No. Dude has done a lot of crack. So there's that. But again, we're not going to spend our time with Hunter Biden, although he continues to wander the wasteland and landscape of American politics. The left is also turning in the favor of idiot socialism, true idiot socialism. And some of the lead voices here are the actors. They'll get to the actors in a second. First, I do have to explain. And virtually every house Democrat yesterday voted against a measure condemning socialism. All right, coming up, Democrats voted in favor of socialism the other day, which again, is not a gigantic shot. But here is the thing that happened yesterday. If I did the show using news from three weeks ago, you would notice that immediately. Because information is only useful if you get it in time to actually do something with it.

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26:21of condemning socialism. Now the Democrats are claiming that if they had stripped out, there's a provision there that called for an election security crackdown. And if they stripped it out, they would have voted for it. But I mean, come on, guys. Come on. A lot of Democrats are just unwilling to separate off from socialism because they think that it's so hot online. Socialism is the wave of the future. Of course, you expect this from the actors, the acting continued, David Harbor, famous from Stranger Things. He is a big advocate of socialism, except for him as health presumably. He has paid a lot of money to do movies. And I understand by the way, why actors trend toward socialistic redistribution because they're artists. And in the arts, all standards that are applied to are subjective. And so pretty much every actor walks around going there but for the grace of God goes to barista. And so they think, okay, well, I got there through luck and therefore everybody got there through luck and so we can just redistribute the luck. I understand why actors feel this way because again, there's nothing measurably better about David Harbor than it does in other actors

27:21who are never gonna get his work level. But there is David Harbor along with the rest of the idiot socialist contingent promoting anti-capitalism. I don't know if it's the world or it's our culture or something where it's just very binary that like you're either alone and you're kind of like a weird bachelor or a spinster or whatever, that I think is a throwback from, you know, the olden days, or you like get a family, you get a house and you like sort of that's your castle and those are your people and it's like the rest of the world or like we protect that what's ours and move on. There's a very sort of capitalist mindset to this ideology and I think there's something about the communal living in America that I think we all kind of long for, not like a commune but like more like the idea of like, you know, friendship and common ground and supporting each other and taking care of each other as opposed to just these family structures, these nuclear family structures that exist independent of everything else.

28:22Yes, he's the nuclear family now again, amazing. Brian Cox, another very, very rich socialist. I'm a socialist, you know, I'm a socialist, you know, for better or worse than a socialist. Socialism as it was practiced by the labor party and the, you know, what it got to and I had to look at something particular. I thought, where am I going to go? Which is why I went back to my identity as a cult and how that had been subdued for so long in every aspect and what's going on in Ireland now, the whole conflict in Ireland and how it's been dealt with, you know, that we've been subjects, subjects to this one idea. I believe in a federal state. I believe in a state, well, not a united kingdom because it's never been a united kingdom. I believe that we should be federal, that each country should be autonomous and that we should come together as a federation. By the way, Brian Cox is worth $15 million. So very rich socialist.

29:22But again, this has become, you know, stock and trade for a lot of people and in the click economy. If you have enough clicks, people start to mirror it. Joe Rogan, of course, who would never consider himself a, I would say a particularly well-informed voice on politics, right? That's not where Joe considers himself. He considers himself, as I've said before, caveman and search of answers is sort of the nature of Joe Rogan's show, which, you know, that's fine. But here he was essentially promoting the idea that what causes crime is America's distribution of resources, which is not true. Okay, one of the most debunked findings in social science is the idea that poverty is the causative factor in crime, as opposed to very often the other way around. Just imagine how much less crime there would be. If no one was ever starving, if no one was ever hungry, if no one was ever desperate, if no one was ever worried about where their next meal was gonna come from or whether or not they're gonna have a roof over their head, it would change a lot of people's perspective

30:24because how many people act in a famine way? They have a famine mentality and the world, me over some of the world over, what if the world didn't go over? What if like there's no more poverty? What if the concept of poverty is like completely out the window? And there is no poverty in this country. Well, we could have already done that already. We could have already done that. Yeah, yeah, I'm sure. Like we don't need it. But you would have to get all those rich people that are in charge of industry and running corporations and in government to agree to make the world a better place for everybody. Oh, that's all you would have to do is all the rich people are doing it. I mean, you know, it must be the rich people who aren't just not generous enough. Joe Rogan is worth $250 million. Or how about Jamal Hill, who's made an enormous living, often just ripping American capitalism in the dumbest possible way she was on CNN last night. And she suggested capitalism is white supremacy and she was a rudely disabused of this idea by Camel.

31:25I actually just described the basic facts of the past. That is how it always works. The way it is in an institution that is older than writing. It predates capitalism. The notion that white supremacy and all these other things are bound up with capitalism and intrinsic and fundamental way is so absurd and lab-able. How is it absurd? That barely needs to be defended. What do you mean it barely needs to be defended? You actually have to articulate what the connection is. How are these two things the same? I'm talking about private property. The right to exchange and sell it with whoever you like. But you're talking about capitalism and it's the right to do with white supremacy. What does that have to do with white supremacy? What does that have to do with white supremacy? It's not working. It's not working. It's not working right now today. What is the white supremacy? It's not working. It's not working. That's the problem. Okay. Camel Foster just saying basic truths, but Jamel Hill makes a great living. I mean, I assume that she is doing it for the paycheck. But this has become deregortensied the Democratic Party. Again, the attention economy drives toward the extremes. And the extreme on the left is pro-terrorism and prosocialism.

32:25Abdul Al-Sahiad recently caught on tape suggesting that the American dream is really only possible in Canada. See, contrary to what we're taught that we are the land of opportunity where anyone with a dollar in a dream can make it. In fact, too few people have that first dollar. Economic data shows us that if you want to achieve the American dream, well, you should move to Canada because it's twice as likely there. Here, where you start predicts where you end. Okay. Well, that's not true at all. But again, this is a fun talking point for the attention economy because you can always sell people back their own feelings of dispossession and envy always. Okay. Now, the reality is that according to Raj Chetty, via Harvard University and the opportunity insights April of 2025, the percentage of people born to parents in the bottom quintile who rise to the top quintile in the United States about seven and a half percent. But the vast majority of people who start in the bottom quintile do not end up in the bottom quintile in the United States.

33:26And when we say the Canada, you rise faster than in the United States. Well, no, you can skew those stats. So it is true that if you start in the bottom quintile and you get to the top quintile in Canada, like 11.2% of people do that in Canada. But that's because the gap between the bottom quintile and the top quintile in Canada is a lot smaller. It's like saying a higher percentage of people make it from 10 to $15 than 10 to $100 because the reality is that in the United States to hit that top income quintile, you have to go further. You have to make an awful lot of money. About one in six Canadian workers pass $100,000 in Canada compared to nearly one in four American workers hitting $100,000. 4.8% of the active working population in Canada surpasses that $100,000 US dollar income threshold. But almost a quarter of the active working people in the US surpass that $100,000 income threshold. So again, this is fun with statistics. The reality is there's tremendous income mobility in the United States. We can always make it better. But the reality is that 93% of children

34:28grew up in the bottom quintile were better off than their parents were by the time they reached the 30s according to K-O 2023. 86% of children from the middle three quintiles were better off than their parents. By the time they reached their 30s and 70% of kids from the top quintile were better off than their parents. By the time they reached their 30s. In fact, in the United States, if you wish to be not poor, you only have to do three things. This has always been true. Graduate high school, work full time, marry before you have kids. Those three things will not be permanently poor in the United States. But again, simple basic stuff doesn't get your attention in the attention economy. Well, unfortunately, it feels like the scavengers are on the rise. One year ago today, my book Lines and Scavengers was released. It's the story of America and of the West and of the people trying to tear it down who are very, very active right now. I make the case in the book that success in this country comes down to talent and work ethic and that Lions build. They defend freedom. They give people a real shot at prosperity and scavengers of people who want to rip down the entire civilization. When I wrote the book, I was more optimistic that the Lions were winning.

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38:33Economics, national security, those are the only two. Everything fits in one of those two boxes. And if you pick a third box, it very rarely is going to be the decisive factor in an election. There's some outlier circumstances like if one party decides to go insane and say boys can be girls or something. But typically speaking, it's about national security or your feeling of personal security and economics. So what can Republicans do? Well, first, Republicans should be pointing out that on a national security level, the border policy of the administration is correct. First of all, I think you could probably run on we deported Milo and maybe 130% of the vote. It is the one thing that brings Americans together. Both are two. Dolly Parton was great and Milo and Apples should be deported. Those are probably the two propositions that have 100% approval in the United States. In any case, here was Representative Jim Jordan pointing out that Democrats would love to reopen the borders, which of course is true. Democrat Socialists now say we want these individuals to be able to vote. It's part of their platform.

39:35I mean, you can't make this stuff up. Let in 10 million create sanctuary jurisdictions which makes it difficult to apprehend those people when they commit another crime. Don't pay eyes who does the apprehending and oh, by the way, these people, we want them to be able to vote in American elections. That is today's Democrat party. That's the craziest stuff I've ever heard. He is right about that. And the Democrats, by the way, continue to double down on all of this. Kathy Hocal is now accusing President Trump of defunding the police. Like they understand that on a national security level they got a problem. And so you got Kathy Hocal standing alongside Zor Mom Donny, both of whom have opposed at every turn ice trying to blame the feds for lack of police in New York. The Department of Homeland Security, the agency created a response to 9-11, is withholding 40% of New York State's counter-terrorism yes, 40%. That's from New York State,

40:35the number one terror target in the nation. A place where just recently, a terror plot against our state capital was uncovered. That 40% adds up to $87 million. That's $87 million, they owe us. Let me translate that in real simple terms. Donald Trump is defunding the police. Okay, again, standing alongside Zor Mom Donny, both of you would love nothing better than to defund the police until the consequences hit. Back in February, Zor Mom Donny actually issued an executive order prohibiting federal authorities from accessing non-public areas of city property like shelters or city-owned lots without a judicial warrant and banned ice from using city land as a staging area. In May, Kathy Hocal did basically the same thing. They banned local law enforcement and county jail statewide from entering into agreements with ice and restricted civil immigration enforcement in schools.

41:36Beyond that, Secretary of Homeland Security, Mark Wayne Molyne, points out that New York is already sitting on $300 million to unspent federal Homeland Security funding. He says instead of falsely accusing President Trump of defunding law enforcement, governor Hocal, and Zor Mom Donny should answer a much simpler question. Why is New York demanding even more tax fare money when it has failed to spend hundreds of millions of dollars already provided to protect its communities? And the immigration issue remains a winner for Republicans because the Democrats are so unbound from reality on all of this. The administration continues to push forward, by the way. Operation Rod and Apple, which is the name of an operation that they put forward, has now apparently taken over 2000 criminals off the streets in the last 30 days. So is Mark Wayne Molyne explaining? For the last 30 days, Operation Rod and Apple has taken over 2,100 criminals off our streets. That's the worst of the worst.

42:362,100, we focused on them all across all across the state of New York. These are rest included gang members, rapists, murders, and child predators, which I believe there's a special place in hell for those individuals. I mean, again, this is a winning issue for Republicans. The fact that Democrats are so crazy on this issue is a big opening. Okay, other issues where Republicans can run into wealth. So I spoke briefly yesterday about the fact that the president seems discombobulated and unststrategic in his narrative approach. A lot of comments are saying, what about the war in Iran? How's that contributing to Republican unpopularity going into the election? And of course, the fact that we are in a war that has now lasted from March all the way until September, has confused people. It's the reason why I thought that the MOU and the unilateral ceasefire were bad ideas. If you are going to win the war in Iran, that also requires you to explain to the American people that you actually are winning. And one of the shocking things that's actually happening

43:37right now is that the United States believe or not is in fact winning. If there's a reason why President Trump is no longer seeking a renewed MOU with Iran. And the answer is because the United States has successfully reopened the strait to a large extent. Not only that, the United States' sanctions are really biting. The Iranian reality is now 2.1 million to the dollar. Last night, the United States struck Iranian targets near the straight of hormones. Again, Iran is trying to re-control the strait because they've lost control of it. And the United States is stopping them. The president says the strikes are large and powerful. And in retaliation for the Iranians failed attempt at adding sea mines to the strait, which currently has no mines. They've been completely removed or detonated. And the Iranian shooting aim, that's all successfully knocked down in our military base in Jordan. If the failed nation of Iran retaliates for this very justified attack, they'll be hit again at a much harder and higher level. But it will not be the biggest attack of them all. That is waiting in the wings and when it is over, there will be very little left of these london republic of Iran. Treg Yings, who's Fox News is Middle East reporter,

44:38got a call with President Trump and he explained what the president is thinking. I just spoke with President Trump who indicated that if the Iranians respond to these U.S. strikes against their country, the president said they'll be hit much harder. He went on to say today's strikes were a very big hit. And if it goes a third time, they're going to be totally wiped out as a country. Now I asked the president what was hit tonight in Iran specifically in the southwestern part of the country next to the strait of Hormuz. President Trump says a lot of radar and added that they were trying to rebuild the radar systems. And the United States was watching. And then just before they completed this construction, that's when these strikes took place. The president says the USS George Washington, that new aircraft carrier that arrived in theater last week is loaded to the gills with ammunition. And he indicated that they have enough to continue. This fight against Iran, again, if the Iranians do decide to respond. As for any sort of possible agreement with the Iranians,

45:38President Trump says I think an agreement with them isn't worth the paper. It's written on, we gave them a lot of chances. He is right about that. President Secretary Scott Pesson points out that we are having massive economic success against Iran. Again, you have gigantic, there's video emerging from Iran of lines that are probably miles long waiting to get gas because they have tremendous shortages. Like all the shortages are beginning to bite. Essentially there's nothing left in the country. And now it's only a matter of time until the regime is faced with some sort of internal challenge. Here was Scott Pesson talking with Larry Cudlow about all of this. Well, Larry, to be clear, the economic outcomes could not have happened without the initial kinetic success. So, you know, kinetically, we destroyed their navy, we destroyed their Air Force, a large portion of their missile and drone inventories. And more importantly, probably 85 or 90% of their factories that have the ability to rebuild those. So, that they have been,

46:40they are in extreme distress militarily. But financially, we are starting to see, you interviewed me at the Economic Club of New York in the spring of 2025. And I said, we are going to collapse the Iranian occurrence. It was at $800,000 to the dollar. It's shot through two million now. So they don't have access to hard currency in place in the Sutherland. Now, he is right about all that. Again, the administration needs to explain what's happening in Iran and how the United States actually is winning an extraordinarily low cost against a key American opponent. Pesson, by the way, points out that the straight-of-formals won't even be a choke point in a couple of years because everybody is building pipelines that go the other way. We could see the Iranians are trying to use the straight-of-formals as a choke point. It's not a choke point for the US, but it is a choke point for many other countries. And that will be bypassed in two years.

47:40And two years, the straight-of-formals will be like a worthless piece of water that the oil will be going on pipelines across the land. So again, there's a lot that the Republicans can say going into 2026. And one of those things is that actually Iran is losing. And that needs to be repeated. And the president put out a statement, I'm not trying to force Iran to the bargaining table as ABC fake news reported. I couldn't care less if they signed a worthless to them agreement. I like our position now much better, but almost total control of the Hormuz straight and their economy totally collapsing. They're just playing out the inevitable. One of the Iranian people going to rise up and fight. Now, obviously, it's easy for the president to say that given the fact that last time the Iranian people rose up and tried to fight, 50,000 of them were murdered in the streets, but there aren't gonna be a lot of choices for the Iranian people in the very near future because when everything runs out, how does the Iranian regime pay its own fighters for example? We get to more on this in a moment. First, there's something about putting on cowboy boots. It gives every man an entirely unjustified level of confidence.

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50:44Okay, another thing that Republicans can do, it's having immigration and Iran, is they can just keep pointing out how crazy the Democrats are. So again, I've been critical of Ken Paxton as a candidate in Texas. I think again, he's not doing a particularly bang up job in Texas. With that said, James Tallerico is a field day for him. He should be going hog, he's got two months left. He's going to hog wild on James Tallerico's horrific candidacy. It is a terrible candidacy. Here he goes back in 2020, claiming that climate change and capitalism and white supremacy are oppressive systems. Yeah, and I'm so thankful that you asked this question and also thankful that young activists have really drawn the link between climate change and white supremacy and capitalism in our country. And I think only ending the ways that all three of those oppressive systems work together are we going to be able to begin the process of dismantling them. Okay, again, you know, like that guy for Texas,

51:45he also said in 2020 that Texas oil was not going to last. He said that industry is not going to last. And now he's trying to walk that back. Tallerico campaign told Andrew Kaczynski over at CNN that his cringy past comments missed the mark. He's actually a capitalist who supports oil and gas. Okay, if you believe that, then you are the mark. You are the sucker. Now he's out there saying, they're going to claim we're all socialists. These are scare tactics. No, you're the one who said that capitalism needs to be destroyed, Madood, that was you. Well, well, well, if it isn't the consequences of his own actions. They're going to claim that this new dream is radical. They're going to claim this new dream is extreme. They're going to claim we are socialists or communists or whatever sounds scariest in a headline. And we'll say back to them, is that the best you can do? These are the same old scare tactics.

52:46I was all scare tactics. You know, when people quote you, that's a scare tactic. By the way, in Nebraska where Dan Osborne is running against few rickets, so he's losing to few rickets. But he was caught on tape, Dan Osborne, saying that he would love to abolish ice, but he can't say that publicly. I have people recording me, so I can't say, I want to abolish ice, I can't say those words. The state is made up of 50% Republicans, 26% Democrat, 24% independents. So my win numbers mathematically, I have to get probably 10 to 15% of Republicans to win this race. How am I going to do that? By saying, oh, I love trans people. And they should be able to play in sports like, no, Jane, that's not how I win. Okay, that's not how he wins. He might believe it, but that's not how he wins. And this is what the Democrats believe there is radicals radical can be. And of course that applies to Abdul El Sayed,

53:48the pro-terrorism anti-American, American-hating candidate in Michigan, who's putting out Qt Tik Tok videos. Again, if voters fall for this crap, just log off, everybody just log off. If you vote for this crap, I don't know what it's telling you. I'm Abdul El Sayed, I'm 41 years old, and I'm from Ann Arbor, Michigan. Oh, my name? Yeah. I love my name. My people don't know this. It means servant leader, right here on my bracelet. So what's my type? No corporate pack money. Ready to rock for Medicare for All. I got one goal here on Senate Island, and that's the past Medicare for All, and I'm not afraid to step on people's toes. What's my red flag? I'm not here for love. I've been married for 20 years, we do kids. Well, it gives me the egg corporate money. People who think that we can't have guaranteed healthcare through Medicare for All. People who've got nasty toes. What do I bring to the Capitol? Michigan and Grit and Grind, and a whole lot of time thinking about this. If you want healthcare and you want corporate money

54:50out of your politics, I might just be your guy. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. If you fall for this, you are one of the dumber people in existence. Just insane vanshones, one of the few honest Democrats left. Here he was talking about Abdul Al-Sahead. Abdul's position is a total and complete armed embargo against the state of Israel, including the sense of weapons. That's an insane position. That says, if Israel wants to pay for interceptors to stop a rocket coming from Iran, or coming from his bowl, or coming from a loss, an interceptor, we should deny them the right to buy the interceptors to knock down rockets going at Israeli children, women, men, babies. That's an insane position. And by the way, it offends me because that's Barack Obama

55:51was a part of creating that iron dome, the Barack Obama part of creating those interceptors. Barack Obama thought that the Israeli people were in such a tough neighborhood, they needed to be able to knock down rockets. So you're telling me you're smarter than Barack Obama. You have better ideas about foreign policy than Barack Obama. And you want to deep-plug and defund and take away Israel's behalf, the world's shoes, ability to defend themselves. Definitely an insane position. I'm gonna give a brief shout out here to Dana Nestle. So Dana Nestle made perhaps the most insane comment in the history of Jewish politics. She's the state attorney general in Michigan and she's in ambulatory psychotic, apparently. So she said that she wasn't gonna show up to the Michigan state convention because she didn't feel welcome there because there are so many people who hate Jews there. She gave a speech at an event with El Sayed. And there she said the following.

56:52She said that Jews were being forced into a stark choice thanks to quote, members of our own party who seek the destruction of Israel as a Jewish state and place the Jewish diaspora in jeopardy. But she said the election was bigger than Israel and invoking poor men's queen Esther urged Jewish voters to put their own feelings of personal safety aside. We have a moral imperative to place the needs of the world above even our own self interest and yes, even our own survival. So there's a lot to unpack there. Number one, she's admitting that members of our party would like to wipe the Jews off the face of the earth. But she says Jews should just go along with that for the sake of the world. So if the Jews have to die to stop global warming, that is fine by Dana Nestle. And then she has the temerity to quote Jewish scripture like the book of Esther to that proposition. The book of Esther is specifically about Jewish survival that is literally what the entire book is about. So basically the argument that she is making for those who are not biblically literate is that queen Esther should have allowed Hayman to wipe out the Jews so that Ahasuerris

57:55would be able to triumph. That is the case she's making. Man, Democrats, it's a hell of a drug. It is a hell of a drug. My goodness. And we'll conclude this section with an actual much obgeneral for wealth again. Every time you play Jennifer Welch, I believe in angel loses its wings. But we are at risk here. She was on with Cara Swisher and Scott Galloway and she explained that their Republican party is a death cult, which is weird coming from a party that believes it is legitimately an act of mercy to murder children. I feel like we have to do reputational brand damage to the Republican brand, their liars. Wealth never trickle down. They treat the military like they always have. Look no further than the USS Lincoln. All of this notion that they're so fiscally responsible. Look at the $40 trillion in debt. What do we have to show for it? This notion that they are pro-life when every single policy that they undo

58:58all the EPA deregulations, the food deregulations, the vaccine nonsense leads to deaths. And so I always say the Republican party is a death cult. They're a death cult. So the party of trans and the kids, youth and age, and abortion is not the death cult. The party of not abortion, and we should fund our military as the death cult. Good luck with this again. This is why I say if Republicans had any narrative skill, whatsoever, which apparently they did, but if they did, it could earn pretty, a pretty upbeat election cycle here. Alrighty, so AOC was asked by TMC. She's now on the market, gentlemen. AOC is on the market. So if you are in the market for a rabidly left wing, woman who goes on insta to freeze her eggs, then I guess she's available. So TMC asked AOC if she would data conservative and her answer was actually shockingly good.

59:59Would you ever date a conservative? Would you date an anything? Would that anything you'd ever date? I have to say it's probably not. Don't data cross the aisle? No, it's not to no foul to people who do, but I think, and of course how you define that is very different from a person to person, right? But I think a lot of politics sometimes, that leads for me is about values and being aligned with, in values, I think is tremendously important. She just said a thing that's actually not stupid. I mean, her values are crap, but she is right. I agree with her. You should date people with your own value system. If you're a conservative, you should not date people who are very much on the left. If you are Jewish, you should date Jews, if you're Christian, you should date Christians. I think that that is a good way to go about these things because again, when you are dating, you are dating to create a family unit,

1:01:02and that family unit should have the same approach toward the children. What she's saying there is not wrong. Now, again, her values are trash. I think that her values are totally wrong, which is why no one who agrees with me should probably date her. And now, AOC did have some comments about her concerns about having a baby because she couldn't afford child care or something. It's just nonsense. It's just absolutely nonsense. I do think that for a very long time, I was very concerned. If you're a working person here, you face a lot of the constraints that a lot of other working people across the country face. And it was very hard for me to imagine very basic things for a very long time. It was very hard for me to imagine being able to have a baby here when child care is so expensive. And I acknowledge that I'm relative to many Americans. I am in a place of privilege. And even I don't know how it would be possible.

1:02:07She doesn't know how it'd be possible to have baby. Like we do it all the time. And in fact, people over the world who are much, much poorer than Americans have babies all the time. But again, it's society's fault that you are not having a baby. She also talked about her life decisions. She says she has career ambitions and she wants love and she wants family. Again, this is why conservative gentlemen, aim your cupidero elsewhere. You know, I think sometimes these conversations about political speculation happen very too dimensionally, right? Like, is she gonna run for this or is she gonna run for that? And for me, I make decisions about my whole life, right? It's not ever just in a career context. It's about how do I fit all of these things? And I feel like my ambition is not just a career ambition. It's about how do we get to soak up as much of this life as possible? And sometimes that has to do with doing

1:03:07really aspirational things with work. And sometimes it has to do with really big aspirational things with love and family. And I was always raised as a family first kind of person. Well, I mean, that hasn't been... I have some skeptical questions about being raised a family first type of person as a person who is literally deprioritizing that as the biological clock text. I mean, that's just a reality of choice making. A very wise person once said that women can have it all. They just can't have it all at the exact same time, which is just true on a material level. You got to make choices in life. And you should make it in those choices. By the way, according to our sponsors over at CalShe market suggests that she is now riding at 16% for the Democratic presidential nomination, that puts her essentially tied for first with John Assoff who is having again, a little bit of a moment. I don't think that moment is likely to last very long. Gavin Newsom has dipped pretty significantly so it seems like his hot moment is ending he peaked too early.

1:04:11Okay, meanwhile, we speak of social liberalism and the left. It is incredible. So the left is dramatically oriented against the idea that nature exists. According to them, everything is merely a societal construct. Sex is a societal construct. Sexuality is a societal construct. In fact, in fact, they want to have it both ways. They want to say that trans is an inborn quality but heterosexuality is environmentally driven. They're a geeky Palmer and LeBern Cox. On the idea that parents influence their kids to be trans, which by the way is obviously and clearly true, which is why you have everyone in Hollywood with a trans kid and nobody in Peoria with a trans kid. But apparently, they believe that actually it's parents who cause their kids to be straight, which by the way, if that's true, then better for society since we do need the people to have the babies and that happens when the men have the sex with the ladies. That's how that works. Here we go. People were sort of talking about, well, children are too young to make decisions about this

1:05:12and they don't know when parents are forcing. The idea and people are saying so many people are saying that parents are forcing their children to be trans. I was like, that is the most ridiculous thing ever and it completely discounts all of the conservative parents who find themselves with trans kids and how to navigate it. But I never understand it because if that were the case, if people could make somebody anything, well, what about all the heterosexual stuff, y'all pushing? You get what I mean? If you could force somebody to be anything, shouldn't we all be whatever the thing y'all pushed? You know what I mean? Like it doesn't make it. You can't, you know what I mean? It doesn't really, it doesn't really work. Mm, mm, it doesn't really work. Well, I mean, life is a combination of genetics and environment. I know these are controversial statements. And genetically speaking, it turns out that actually, actually the vast majority of humanity is geared toward heterosexuality because that is evolutionarily beneficial.

1:06:16But oh well, you know. Okay, well, I will say that the radical left trans movement seems to have passed on a cultural level. So people are pointing out the differences in how Calvin Klein is approaching its advertising. You can't tell a lot by how the advertisers do their business. So if you go back just a couple of years, you may remember Calvin Klein featuring a pregnant trans man in its ads. You know, like a woman who took some testosterone to grow a beard in the Calvin Klein ads. Um, so that was what they were doing a couple of years ago. And they also had a pretty woke commercial that they debuted a couple of years ago. A few years back, there was that commercial with us. Some, some large ladies. I am not a moment. I'm a force to be reckoned with. I am Jika. Calvin Klein.

1:07:19They had to draw back the camera about... I mean, you got a few people in the frame. Yeah, the... Yep. Well, things have changed because now Calvin Klein is bringing out ads with Sadie Singh, an attractive young woman, dancing around in her underwear, which again, it's probably likely to sell more underwear than, you know, the lady who appears to be welded to the furniture. So here we go. This is making the rounds yesterday. Okay, here she is checking her... her home and then dancing around in her... And then apparently this causes a flood to emerge in her house and she seems unconcerned about the flood that has broke now in her house. Also, there's electrical devices going off, which seem dangerous. They have a flood and also electrical devices going off. Calvin Klein.

1:08:19Yes, I mean, this is how women normally operate around the house. I have been well informed by, you know, all the females, this is what they do. They tend to like... If the sink just explodes, then probably the problem is that pretty much all women just stand there posing in their jeans. So yeah, the times have changed, times have changed. Now, again, I think that we've reached a pretty low point in society when we have to have a cultural celebration that more attractive women are in advertising. I'm old enough to remember as a conservative one, conservatives were pretty exercised about Paris Hilton floating with a car while leading a cheeseburger. Because they're like, this seems like kind of soft core porn, but we're not apparently... We've now reached the point where we should just celebrate the fact that we're allowed to restore kind of traditional motions of female beauty. I guess that's a good thing. I guess it's the alternative. Well, already folks, we reached the end of today's show.

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