Ep.213 Theoretical Gift / So You Will Not Be Afraid (Throwback)

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I'm making it. We don't want to report.

Erie's 31. Do you wish to report a UFO?

We want to report one of those.

Erie's 31. Do you wish to file a report of any kind of a?

I wish I would kind of report a wildfire.

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First 7-1 pop-up golf negative.

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Are you a UFO?

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It's like a...

I don't know what it was, but it's at least 2-3-2-3-2-3 above us.

The outpass right over the top of us.

9-1-1.

You guys do it.

You were just called up to be a 4-1.

You're up here. Say an airplane.

I just asked for a 3-1 pop-up.

I swear to God.

4-1-1 on an identified object.

Every liberty is 4-1-1.

4-1-1 on an identified flying object.

So we're not big enough.

Er, we'll check it out.

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Then we speak to Jay in the Philippines

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Good morning, Gary, and welcome to the podcast.

Good morning.

Thank you for joining us today,

and you're calling from the state of Nevada.

Yes, I am, and thank you for having me.

You are more welcome, Gary.

You have some encounters to share.

Would you like to start the beginning, please, sir?

Starting the beginning.

Nick, the beginning, I mean,

go back to where I was maybe five years old.

First encounter, I'm a little kid.

I'm in my bed, and I hear these things in my room.

I hear them in my closet.

I call for my mom.

She comes in and tells me you're just dreaming.

And go back to sleep, and I'm telling her,

but I wasn't dreaming.

I was awake.

Okay.

Typical mom, you know, yeah, you're dreaming.

And shine it off at that.

I think that happened twice.

It went away.

And I never dealt with that again.

When I was in the sixth grade, my family went from the United

States, and we lived in Canada for about a year.

My dad had a job to take it.

So I'm living in Canada.

I'm going to school there.

And we lived at a house out in the middle of nowhere on a lake.

And I used to feel a presence outside of my room.

But they never came in my room.

Kind of scary.

Not kind of.

It was scary.

It was a kid.

So that was the last thing.

Now it jumps forward.

It was like 25.

I'm with my friend of mine.

We're coming home.

We got up work.

We worked together.

We go to my apartment, hang out for a little bit, and I'm driving

home.

I want to drive in and I'm talking.

And he quit answering.

And I look over and he's looking out the window of my car with his

jaw drop.

The passenger side.

And I just see this big huge.

The size of a shopping mall in the sky.

Very low.

Standing very slow.

And I'm all so freaking UFO.

And he's all, no, no, it's not.

No, it's not.

No, it's not.

So I turn down.

I start driving towards it.

And I'm driving towards it.

And I feel that there's.

We're being watched.

We're being tracked.

Whatever it may be.

So I look up and right above my car on both sides.

There's two of them falling.

And I tell them, look, they see that we're following this thing.

They know we see it.

And they know we're driving towards it.

And he starts to panic out.

He ends up kind of fetal position in my front seat.

And very emotional.

Asking me to take them home, take them home, take them home.

I finally turn around because he's starting to get a little emotional.

And when I turn around and take them home, I look back and they're all gone.

And that was my first experience seeing one of these craft.

Now they explained to me that this whole experience.

Was the basically almost a turn on a light switch inside of me.

It got me to where I started studying UFOs, reading about spiritual

ity, I was just obsessed with it.

And I've been obsessed with them since then.

It changed my life.

That one night changed my life.

Some time when buying this, I end up living in the back of a truck.

I was homeless for almost 10 years in the night.

So the beginning of that, I'm in this truck and I start going through

where I describe as a near death experience, anxiety.

It was feeling like your brain's flipping upside down in your head and you're dying.

That's what it felt like.

So at some point, I got so bad, I get to back my truck, I lay down.

A voice starts talking to me.

It starts explaining to me about a band of energy that's around our planet.

Okay.

We tap into it creatively, like we're talking about musicians being new artists,

whatever.

Maybe you tap into this band of creativity and you come out of it with something

that's colored by your personality.

So they showed me a song by Rage Against the Machine Bulls on Parade.

And then they showed me a song that I had written.

It was very similar.

I'm all wow.

That I see how this is slightly different from them, slightly different from me.

So they got the song going flat and for something original.

So they start giving me a song, ask the violins and show those violins and show those.

Come in.

I asked for a vocal line.

I start singing face first in the back of my truck.

So they answer some questions and I, you know, talk with them.

And I had to get up for some reason and they were gone.

And I'm trying to get them back.

And I can't get them back.

And I'm going, wow, I guess that was a fluke.

But that kind of explains my whole near death experience thing that I've been going through

more for this time goes by.

All of a sudden I start to get it again.

Boys start talking to me.

They start explaining things to me.

And I go, okay, I got to get up and answer the call of nature.

And you're going to be gone.

When as soon as I move like last time, you'll be gone.

You're not going to come back.

I can't communicate with you.

They said, okay, we've been with you your whole life and we will be with you the rest of your life.

So go, we will be back.

And I'm doing my thing and all of a sudden they tell me to get back in the car.

There's a cop coming.

Please.

So I get back to my truck and I'm looking out to a little crap and police car drives by.

So I'm kind of going, whoa, this is definitely unusual.

So I go to go to sleep and they told me we'll be with you the rest of your life, okay?

So I wait up to next morning for a good morning.

Gary, how are you?

Both of them, they start going.

They did this for probably a day and a half to day.

I don't know.

It's been quite some time.

Okay.

But they did this for a couple days.

So I finally said I would like to have my mind back if I could.

Okay.

And they said, okay, we're going forward.

We will just answer questions.

Now, at this point, when I first started doing this, they spoke directly through my mouth, through me.

Like they were in my body.

I could listen to what they're saying and have my own thought separate from what they're saying.

Okay.

And they're answering questions for people.

And this night and I even had a friend go to the other end of it and told you.

But whatever this is, the speaking through you is much more intelligent than you are.

And I'm, yeah, I'm not in fault that I get it.

They'd gone through me.

I could feel it.

I could hear what they're saying.

So I do this for a little bit.

And I'm answering questions for people.

And one day, I'm reading a book in the back of my truck.

And it happened to be on extraterrestrials and how certain individuals in our society were as humanoid aliens.

And they come out and said look for an alien.

We got this artwork that would get inside people's head and all this.

Okay.

So I'm reading the book.

I'm laying there and I see what looks like a frame of the UFO.

Pop out from behind the cloud and pop back in.

And I'm all what kind of different does it again?

And the voice tells me.

Okay.

We're the ones that have been talking to you the past few months.

And I'm all out.

Okay.

I started seeing the UFOs on a daily basis.

And it probably, this is called probably took me a few days a week maybe.

And I finally asked them, you know, what, what do I call you?

Do you have a name?

And they said, quant away.

You can call us quant away.

Okay.

What are you?

What?

And they said we're what that you would call the senior.

You can call us the senior.

Please.

And we're.

Expressionals that look exactly like you do.

Or you look like us is really what it is.

That's basically how I broke through and made my communication with these beings.

And it's been now.

A little over 30 years that I have openly been communicating with them.

And hindsight.

I realized that all through my childhood, they did.

And I thought it was made with a very active imagination that caused me to do very poorly in school.

But I was very distracted.

They would give me comics and teachers' lives and a comic script.

It was just hilarious.

And I didn't concentrate in the school and didn't do very well.

And I got into music high school.

I thought I was going to be the next gene Simmons and play music and pursued that and dropped out of high school actually.

I've never graduated.

So that brings me 30 years later with a whole lot of information.

And you know, it seems that at your lowest point, they made a connection with you.

Exactly.

To be honest with you, Nick, I think that probably saved my life.

I don't know if I would have made through the years of homeless that I did without them.

There's one point.

And I didn't realize this until after I had gone through this experience with some women in this truck.

And I'm setting this is the town I grew up in.

I'm setting on a curb outside of my truck.

I got money.

I got no food.

I got no gas.

I don't know what I'm going to do.

I'm looking up in the hills and the town I grew up in.

There's some red and blue light flashing fog coming up.

Now this is where I grew up.

This is where I had my first car.

I grew up there was my first girlfriend.

And I'd never, ever, ever seen anything that would create light and fog up in these hills.

So I'm setting on watching this.

And a guy comes walking out of the hill.

He had long hair.

He was a black guy.

He was a guitar player and he was homeless.

So I'm a long hair white guy guitar player homeless.

He came same level as me.

Ask me what are you doing?

I'm watching this up in the hills and trying to figure out what the heck it is.

You know, and he says, well, that's for you.

You need to go up there and see what it is.

And I just kind of that went to the back of my mind.

I don't know.

I just didn't think about it.

And he asked me.

What else?

What are you?

What's going on with you?

What are you doing?

I said, I have no money.

I have no money.

I have no food.

I have no gas.

I don't know what I'm going to do.

And he says, OK, well, let's get in your truck.

And we get in my truck with another guitar player friend.

And he takes me and shows me where to get food.

Showed me where to get a voucher.

And it was just a one-time thing to get gas.

And we got some gas.

And he says, OK, I'm going to take some show you where you can go.

Every piece of answer is going to get a hot dinner.

So we show up at this place.

We've tried to get him to go play music with us down at the studio.

He just kept the boy net poll conversation.

OK, we go to a church.

We get out and he's all the outside, the dinner.

And, OK, well, hey, thank you.

I appreciate everything you did.

You want to have dinner with us?

He says, no, I've got some friends waiting on me.

I'm playing it over.

And there's a group of people just staring at us.

There's one woman.

I don't believe four guys.

So, hey, thanks.

Appreciate it.

Everything you did.

And good luck to you.

I turn around.

I talk to my friend.

We look back and they're all gone.

Now, in hindsight, my guide told me this was us.

My guide, Quinto Lake, is five of these humanoid ED.

So the one within the truck was one of them.

And then the other ones were waiting on him.

They walked up and they were gone.

That was my first space encounter with them.

That I know of.

They come right down to your level.

He did right.

He just go, wow, this is a really, I can relate to this guy.

It's a really good person.

Yeah, you were able to completely relate.

You know, you had a guitar on him.

He was homeless.

And then he showed you where you can go and helped you.

Exactly.

And they said they've done this throughout the history of mankind.

This is how they work with people.

You never even know that you're dealing with an ED.

And it would make a lot of sense for them to do that.

I think it's the same kind of way, you know, when you hear stories of angels, you know,

where people would have these strange encounters with people.

And they're helped out, you know, a bit like that TV show.

Remember highway to heaven.

Yes, yes, exactly.

Kind of like that.

You know, and he was in human form.

And he always helped people.

Yes, yeah.

As a matter of fact, we just as a family watched the movie tonight, Michael.

I don't know if you've ever seen John Travolta, Michael, where he plays the angel.

I remember that one.

Yeah, I remember.

Yeah.

Good movie.

Good movie indeed.

What did you say their name was?

My guide's name is Quintilling.

Like Q-U-I-N-N-Dash-E-A-L-A-Y.

Quintilling.

Quintilling.

Quintilling.

Okay, like for a human, there's a C-A.

Like F-E-E-N-Y-A-Y-C-A.

And did they have a say where they were from?

They're from Earth.

They're exactly as old and where they're from.

They've been on this planet for so many years.

We're going through complete physical human understanding, learning what it is to be physically human.

It's reincarnation problem.

It takes a couple thousand lives.

We go through this.

Then you move on to 78 other forms of mental and physical development.

Each one of these 78 levels has a dimension.

Like we have the physical plane and two lower astral planes.

That's the dimension.

You hear a parallel dimension.

That's what the dimensions are.

Each one of these levels of development require a dimension to play out

the less like we're doing on the physical plane.

Okay.

Quintilling.

They're exactly like that.

They're no different than we are.

They went through a complete physical human understanding here on Earth.

Just as we are now.

That's why you got a million of hammer, modern day hammer, and a 400 million year old piece of coal.

For example, there's been advanced humans on this planet way, way, way before.

Way, way, way, way before.

Way, way, way, way before.

While we consider different door here.

Okay.

That's exactly what they are.

They've gone through what we're going through and then the other 78.

They're difficult for.

They could use 100% of the total human mental capacity.

So they've always been here guiding us.

They have been here guiding us.

And not only are they here guiding us.

This planet for them a biological genetic warehouse.

This is where they get all of the genetics that they use in other places.

They say like Alpha Centora.

This is a common belief in the UFO.

UFO always UFO community.

Because the Alpha Centora is coming here to visit us and look at any study as they're watching or whatever.

They're developing genetics and taking them from here to Alpha Centora.

Okay.

Now, the beings I'm telling you I'm communicating with are human.

They look like us.

You'd never know.

None of the different unless they want you to know.

Okay.

Now, there are the other beings that look like they're typical alien.

Grey and whatnot.

What they are.

They call them the gongolay.

Gongolay.

You got the 78 layers of development that you go through.

And I'm telling you the senior is the top of this.

The gongolay are about halfway between.

And what they are is like worker bees or the senior.

And they develop all the physical bodies and plants and animals and biological structures like her.

And they do this for the senior.

They work together.

And if you'll hear some abductees say, okay, I'm in this craft and I'm being abducted.

And I got these big bug headed looking aliens over me doing this stuff.

And there's like US military off to the side watching.

It's not the military.

That's the senior.

They look like they're running the whole show.

And even up until today, are they still interacting with you?

Absolutely.

When they said Nick that they would be with me the rest of my life.

They would be with me the rest of my life.

And I was hoping we'd tell people that yeah, I got the lives in the cat.

Because they have they've saved my life Nick since I was a teenager a couple of times that I know of.

I hope in me answer questions.

I just did a post last night about a guy I'm speaking with on messenger.

And he told me his story about how he met a guy and the sky says, well, I'm from another planet.

He tells the guy that I'm talking with that you're from another planet too.

Now a couple years ago, Nick, I probably would have pulled this guy.

You know, I think they're confusing things about being from a different planet.

Because I didn't think it worked that way.

But in reading this guy's story, I'm reading his story.

And my guide is showing me it's like a big hammer annexer of different dimensions and how we're learning on different levels.

And that's what this guy is from one of these levels and what he's telling me is the truth.

But it was quite clean that he is actually not of humanity.

Okay, just like we're born into a physical body.

All of our previous lives are put on a backburner.

You know, you forget about it.

You will never forget about them once you cross it back over.

But when you're physically alive, it's just kind of stored away until you die and go back to the decimal place, which the actual plane, the spiritual, we're all a spiritual energy.

Just like the senior I mentioned, they're spirits.

They've been through the reincarnation and they don't go through life first and all the parts we are.

Because they've been through that move past that.

We're all going through these levels of understanding.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

The guy with his friend told him he was from another planet.

And they showed me in a hammer annexer added to what I have learned from them so far.

And they just added in more pieces that fit into what I call the bigger picture.

They call the process of creation.

These 78 forms of mental physical understanding.

And then it fits in with this.

The you guys, the four cycles of the earth and it repeats where all gods and praying is what I was getting at.

And are you able to call on them?

Yes.

I will ask them questions and they generally will answer you generally around me.

So are you able to say if you were to drive our into the desert, would you able to initiate a contact physically with them?

Yes, I've done that.

Okay.

I've had them appear for other people.

I've had them appear for people that I know.

I've had them appear for a gentleman in the UK.

And he started, you know, and I tell him when I do this, you got to be very patient.

You got to be very open-minded.

You've got to look at the subtle.

For example, I've done this and an airplane full fly by.

I generally have people go out and watch this guy for an hour.

What do you see?

Do you have air traffic?

Do you have an airplane fly by?

And this one particular guy was going, yeah, an airplane flew by.

But there was something odd about it.

It just didn't look right or fly right.

And I told them, okay, that was them.

Now, if you acknowledge that what you just saw is not an actual airplane.

And it is the extraterrestrials, it's going to progress.

And it progresses into the point where I remember him riding the other thing here.

Riding me and saying, I got this little UFO flying around in my garden.

So it depends on the person.

Some people, Nick, are not meant to see him.

Some people cannot handle seeing him.

But yeah, I would at will have asked them to appear and they out.

Me and some friends, we've gone out and had a blast just watching different manifestations of these.

Like I say on the show, keep watching the skies.

I literally, that's all I do.

If I'm outside, that's all I do day or night in between recordings.

Okay.

If they want you to know, like I said before, Nick, you're not going to know unless they want you to know.

That is true.

You know, and like you said about the previous guy that you were messaging,

I've had a few guests on which an example would be there's a guy in America.

And he lived in a very small town, a town where everyone knew each other.

And he was telling me he was at the bar with loads of inmates.

And two people came into the bar.

It wasn't long ago this episode, but a couple of people come into the bar and they were wearing what looked like 70s clothes.

And they apparently were a bit different.

Nobody recognized him because it was such a small town.

And this guy was chatting to him for a while and he then invited him back to another friend's backyard

where they continued drinking beer and stuff.

And they told him they goes, you know, we're not from around here.

We're from another planet.

Eventually, they left and they forced to start a strange, strange little meeting with people.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I think it's probably more common than people realize.

A lot of people that don't want to admit that, hey, I'm talking to an alien because I'm going to be looked out like a,

like you're crazy or an idiot or whatever label they want to put on you at that point.

Yeah.

I mean, you heard these people make them out to be monsters and all that.

They're out here too.

And they just just take us over all of that.

I don't believe that's true, Nick.

And from what I've learned from them, it's not that you have good, bad, extra-pressureals.

You have, it's the intention of the human.

And a lot of it has to do with their life choices.

So before you're born, you go through a meeting.

You choose what you're going to learn, what you're going to be born to.

You have a carbon debt.

You have to pay off.

This is all guided by carbon.

This old reincarnation process.

So you go through this pre-birth meeting.

You make your choices.

You're born.

And you go through this process.

It's been like going to a library, isn't it, and picking a book.

And you're like, I want to read this book now.

And I think that's the same thing with reincarnation.

You know, you have to take different books.

You can't always, you know, you obviously can take the easy book.

You have to take some of the books which are hard reading, you know, hard to absorb.

And I think that's how life is.

I think sometimes when people go in through difficult times in their life,

it can make it easier by realizing that you've already chosen life.

And this is your learning process.

Next, that's a really good way of putting it.

I agree with 100%.

You know, it's like, me, I've had a rough life.

I haven't had an easy life.

It's still at this point.

It's not easy.

I struggled yesterday, you know.

But it's what I chose to do.

And I've accepted that.

And it's what I'm learning.

So you just kind of go with it.

And you wouldn't change your life.

There's parts that I would like to change.

But is it meant to be changed?

Probably not.

I mean, I got a lot of business ideas that I want to do.

That my daughter's mother calls me the idea machine.

I got to see some ideas.

Okay.

My main idea I wanted to do is call for her for life, which is getting from life.

We would like to focus on the unwed young mothers that the guys fail on.

Leave them with kids.

Call them into a tough love within program.

And you basically got to reheat them.

Because I don't know about in the UK.

But in the United States, some of these kids are, they have no parents at home.

Both parents got a worker.

It's a single mom that's trying to support these kids.

And she's at work.

And they're raised by a TV or who knows who.

And they need to be reached hot.

This is, you know, how you get up.

And you have your breath.

You brush your teeth.

You take a shower.

You make your bed.

And this is how you pay your bills and get your job.

And you train them and drop the bills.

You're going to put in a drop.

Teach them how to build credit.

Buy a house.

I call it worker life.

This is my main business idea that I wanted to do.

But myself, I've never had money.

I live to be very, very, very, very honest.

I live below the level of poverty in the United States.

I don't have money.

And in order to make money, everybody knows you got to have money.

And one of these days, I'm going to get one of my ideas.

I'm going to jump off.

I'll get an investor.

And I'll be able to do all of this that I want to do.

But it's not going to be off of this information that I have from the VT

to sell it or make money or even to help people with their help

or their advice or their information that I couldn't charge for.

Of course not.

And yeah, you're absolutely right.

The worst teacher in the world is the television.

Yeah.

It is.

That's one of the first things I've heard of the common amongst people

who come in contact with these beings.

The first thing they do is they kind of instill in you to go out and help people's lives better.

And they do.

That's the first thing they did with me.

And I believe that's why I went through the whole homeless thing.

I grew up in one house, middle class, new school clothes every year,

Christmas present.

You know what I'm saying?

You're basic, you know, a nice childhood.

And I needed to learn how other people live.

So I had to go see that experience with women in the back of the truck for 10 years to get it, you know.

And then that times when they contacted me and helped me out of that situation,

weird how they work.

You know, there would be a very different place if everyone did die.

If everyone went out and helped people, there would be a very different place.

It would.

I agree with you.

With this reincarnation process, my belief.

And I want to say that if I'm not out to try to change anybody's belief system,

you know what I'm saying or convince anybody or whatever,

I'm simply want to share what they share with me.

Now Gary, you have a Facebook page.

Is that right?

Yes.

What is the name of it?

The theoretical gift.

The theoretical gift.

What kind of information do you have on that, Gary?

What I've been doing is once again, 30 years I've been doing this neck.

And I've started.

I've gone online and tried to get these theories out.

I get ready to do a couple of down.

I hit the surface.

The skirt is give up.

And I've done this a few times over the past 30 years.

So this round right now, I've been at this probably about two months.

And I'm getting a better response.

I'm happy, happy, happy to say that.

I deal with a lot of trolls, a lot of people.

You're an idiot.

You're a moron.

You're on drugs.

You're on, you know what I'm saying?

And this time I'm getting a lot of support.

Really kind nice people.

So my theoretical gift, Facebook page.

Basically, I'm crossing, posting what I've been posting on the internet,

which is information I've gotten from my guides.

And some of my experiences with them.

It's about sharing the information online.

That's what the theoretical book, Facebook page is about.

So I'm talking with people and rather retyping it all.

I can go here and go look at this.

Read, please, if you would.

And if you got questions, I'm more than happy to answer them in public forum or in messenger.

I get a lot, a lot of people coming in messenger that don't want to come out and tell their story publicly because of the way people create them.

I've been through it.

I know how they feel.

But I don't know what I'm talking about.

I don't care what people think about me.

This is what I've been through.

This is, you know, I'm not making this up.

And I don't feel I need to prove myself to anybody.

If you want to listen, listen.

If you don't, more power to you, but I'm not going to argue with you.

Exactly.

How about that?

Exactly.

That's wonderful.

The Facebook page, the theoretical gift.

Okay.

So what I do is I'll put a link down below so people go check it out.

Cool.

Thank you.

You're more than welcome.

Anybody who wants to come up with questions, you know, as long as they're professional.

And even those people that come in and they don't agree with what I say,

I could have a professional conversation.

Hey, man, you need to make a, for your mind, which you want to believe, not have me tell you what to believe.

You know, and I could have conversations.

But when they get main announcing, not cool.

But if anybody wants to contact me on messenger, you know, I get people all the time.

I get a lot of people.

And I get a lot of people and I get a lot of people.

People who are interested in these, like, start taking pictures and videos,

and I kind of see this coming and all contacting the messenger.

Once I get out of them, they're hearing a voice like I hear a voice.

I usually tell me, Hey, I hear a voice, this information reading from a voice right here.

And once they will admit that they're hearing this voice, I can certainly explain to them what's going on.

And usually introduce them to who's trying to talk to them.

give them a name or I walk them through a process sometimes and they got a

figure's name out themselves and make them work for it and then you take

somebody that could be considered a schizophrenic I can be considered schizophrenic

because I hear a disembodied voice and you take them from that to where they're

basically a spiritual medium they could do reading they could use it as a friend

it's up to them what they want to do with their gifts but I get a lot of these

coming to me and private because they don't want to they don't want to admit

and public and I will never ever answer their stories or their names you know

it's very personal exactly of course that's wonderful Gary I just appreciate

you giving me the opportunity I really really do you're the first one that I've

just given me an opportunity to talk and it's been 30 years so this is what

the show's about Gary good thank you I appreciate you is given a voice to

people Gary I really appreciate you coming on sharing out for our listeners

okay thank you you're more than welcome Gary keep in contact all right take

care of that and I'll talk soon here okay thank you next bye Gary bye-bye

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hello Jim and welcome to the podcast well thank you for having me thank you for

joining us today and you're calling from the Philippines yeah yeah I'm originally

from the United States but I migrated to the Philippines and wasn't here good

now Jim your experiences go back to the late 1950s would you like to start

on the very beginning please sir yeah that's when I was oh probably three and a half

four years old I caught pneumonia and uh I know a lot of people say it

they call it your death experience but I I knew I was that I I saw myself

many ways when I when I left my body I was out of it um I seen a doorway and I I knew it was

whatever I was it was the way home to go see that doorway well in the back of the doorway

it was like to hold back it looked like it was like a mile away from the doorway

the way it didn't come all the way to the door and I knew if somebody was supposed to be

meeting me there to take me back to where I belonged they wasn't there so I started to look around

and I'm hovering in the air over my bed at the foot of my bed and I noticed I can

the walls are transparent I can see through the walls my bedroom wall and I did a 180

to my back I had to tilt down but I saw my own body I thought the vessel I I saw the vessel there

and I could see it was covered with blanket all the way up to my my neck my mother probably did

had me covered up like that because of the pneumonia and my head was turned to the right

like over my shoulder and I could actually see my part of my tongue hanging out of my mouth

I did a 180 back around to my right and there was the doorway in that way

well like I said I knew I was supposed to go through that to go home well I was already to go

through it and to the right in the doorway I thought it's a little black bat way in the back

and so it got me from going through watching it anyway as I lost it it kept getting a little bigger

and bigger and bigger that closer I started to see a form I could see a portal laid arm in the head

and it got up to the doorway I'm going to say probably 20 to 40 feet before it got to the doorway

it spout and I'm wondering why am I being thrown this and I received the message it said now

when I received this message what I was I heard it through every part of what I was I didn't hear it

like well I had no errors nothing I had with a form and I I heard it through every part of what

I what I was and it said to me I am in this form so you will not be afraid I thought to myself

well I'm not afraid then it told me it wasn't my time to die I had to go back I don't want to go

and it was like something was forcing me to go back into the puzzle nice remember going through the

skin the bones the flesh I could see that all happened when I was going through it now what it

showed me at the time I really wasn't sure what it was then several years later when I got

the 16 well we lived down a daring farm and it was in the summer time it was just a couple

weeks after my birthday my birthday is 218 and it was probably a very end of June early July

one night I woke up and I was freezing I mean I was so cold it was like I was in a big meat

freezer I was so cold before well before I go any further I have to explain how I slept okay

now when I slept I either slept on my left or right side when I would get in bed I would let

first lay on my back and I'd look my leg wet there hold them my blanket out underneath from the

mattress from the back screen my mother just always saying you have you saw me doing your

so when you look how do you get your bed set to mass or anyways and I had burned my leg off

like I said I was so cold I sat up and well before I sat up I noticed my bed was made so perfect

the blanket for all hold it underneath of bed I just put it a bed up along the side the blanket

we're up over my up under my underarm over my chest down the other side and hold it back probably

five or six inches and I couldn't probably my bed get made like this like I sat up and I noticed

my t-shirt was so it was so wet I grabbed it I put my hand up my chest and I grabbed it and I

seen water like liquid come between my fingers and between my finger and thumb wet my lot loose but

when I did the water it was like it was a lighter right right right right back into my shirt

I thought to myself what the hell is going on so I got out of bed I took the shirt off threw it

on the floor next to my bed I got another dry t-shirt put it on because I had to walk my bed time

every night with 9 o'clock because during the liars our busiest time of the year when we were on

a ferry home to the hay and I got back in bed for my right off and I just I don't know I want

back to bed and this is probably like three or four o'clock in the morning because I had to get

up at six so we could be milking at six thirty or six o'clock six o'clock came around I got up

and I remembered to be on cold stuff and I went to pick my t-shirt up to throw it into my

my dirty clothes then but when I picked it up I was expecting it to still be wet because there

was no way it was going to what is that was it would be dry but it was going dry I thought what's

going on I must have been dreaming just not knowing you know I dropped it so a couple of days later

we just want to bail harry and I was sitting in the back of our pickup truck and all the

stuff out of the blue like a video flying in my head I was walking up this ramp it was a spiral

like a spiral staircase but it was a ramp and and the ramp probably was at least 20 feet wide

and and the wall was probably I don't know maybe 25 32 away from the ring and it's a bright

tiny silver color that I've never seen before and I can see a shortness control on me I'm being made

to walk up this ramp well I can move my head just a little bit my eyes I'm looking at the wall

and I think I kind of look to see where I was but there I couldn't see no corners no place

and because I looked great and I kind of like looked down the wall kind of like curved in

and looking less than right it was like now looking at a drum bound where it could see well

as I was walking and made them walk up I thought whatever was controlling me I could feel a

quick loosen on me and I looked over to my right and I saw all these different size pipes in the

center of spiral ramp and as I looked I kind of looked down to the time to see where I was at

because I had no idea where I was at and I looked and there was just on the ramp there was just

seeing it was probably three and a half four foot tall and almost shaped by and it knows it had

to be kind of like flat on a space then that was end of the video I think I saw what's going on

well I had no idea I gotta say that look anybody because I thought everybody my family by

front had thought I thought crazy so about a week later same thing what to shirt my bed made

so perfect well I gotta be having a dream that I'm not remembering so at this time nothing

happened I remembered nothing I didn't see nothing so I thought maybe somebody was coming in my

bedroom trying to joke on me so I got the piece so I had two bedroom doors ahead I got the

piece to them and walked my bedroom door because I keep them out nobody's gonna do it well

the end of week later that same thing happened what to shirt freezing bed made perfect

but the difference was there was a couple things different one I had the awful haunting feeling I

had killed I felt like I had been in the military now I'm really close I'm really thinking what

what the hell was going on so I taught myself and to believe when I was just having dreams

didn't remember what was going on so I kind of like put everything in the back of my mind

about it but I mean I didn't totally forget about it so this is 1969 so new unit later I was

Satanist girl and it was probably an October maybe September we had gone to on a Saturday night

we had gone to a late showing of the movie and we probably got over about one o'clock and

we both lived in the country on I know way home or on the way taking her home

this one road it was called Marshall Road whichever and you went up up that it was uphill it was

another like a small mountain and on the top it kind of flattened out well we got up there

and I was riding real slow to really even the dirt road part of it and it was not very wide

you had to go slow if you went off the way I was gone if you went off the right side you

you know you have a tumble down the hill when anyway as I'm driving I'm like that shoulder felt

like somebody caught me on my shoulder and at first it got loud now that the movie maybe somebody

got in my car was in the back of it like I looked around to my left and tried to see and I couldn't

see nothing but out of my window so I was I think it's right right it's bad it was way up to the

west and we had we had a small airport where I live and I thought a plane was coming in to land but

now this is probably like two o'clock in the morning now but our airport was so small it was

eleven o'clock it shut down I thought well it can't be an airplane coming in so I stopped the

car and we got out and we washed it and as we're watching it it was almost directly over top of

us but to the west of us and I'm looking at it I said my god I've seen that color before

so I was inside of it and it got

right over top of us but in front of us a little bit and it made a turn to the north now this

turn wasn't a turn it was a slide it never stopped to slow down it just slipped sideways and what

it was the size of it had to be oh probably the size was a soccer ball but it was way up in the

sky and it went down for it was almost the size of it was a tennis ball then without stopping it

reverse and it's coming back for this and for her and I we received the message holopathically

that we're not interested in you and I said myself okay that's what we were not what they were

looking for so it comes back and where it did 90 degrees slide sideways just about there it passed

three over top of us and it went south probably the same about the size of the tennis ball and it

come back and as it was coming back it said we're not interested in your plan so when they said

that I figured well they wasn't talking about us they were talking about all humans

so it still had a back fork where it did the 90 degrees slide when we just before it got there

we received the third message it said why's what we can do our eyes are glued on it because we

know something was going to happen when we were did the 90s that stop this first foot second

and it took off so fast I mean it had to be close to right speed

and then if you were to blink your eyes you would never see you would have lost it you would have

never seen it again we could walk it going to the wash and we could tell it was gone like you know

out way out and say so after that I thought maybe that was the point so if I seen that that

that was I was made to see that because they didn't want me to forget what happened to me in

69 what happened was I was abducted three times now time when I and 75 I got buried and I kind of

for everything related to UFOs and aliens behind me well then in the late 80s Ronald Reagan was

president and I think it was a second term and he was at the United Nations still in a speech

and he was talking about when the had aliens and I stood up from my ear my wife and I was

laughing I said I know something about bad aliens he says what are you talking about I says I

don't know but I know something about bad aliens so now I'm really really really puzzled why would

I know about some bad aliens so now I'm trying to find anything I kind of about aliens I left

what the news program to see if they're talking about that I'm not getting no place so

then in 2000 my wife and I separated and in 2003 we finally got our divorce and stuff like that

and I kept the house that we had and I had earth like this in my knee and my shoulder and in the

winter time it was really bad because in the winter time that that folder in New York State where I

was at for anyways I told the house to some people I knew and they let me stay there for a couple

months I get everything moved so that's gonna move with a brother found style in Florida and last

month I was there every time I went to bed didn't matter if I was going to bed for the night or

just taking a nap later and there would be four of them and it was like they were a shadow and I

blogged and shadow I couldn't move I was like I was totally paralyzed from from the neck down

and as I see these shadows there's one almost on each side of my my shoulders my left and right

and that my legs like I need but I can't tell what they are they're like an oblong black shadow

and as it comes forward there would be another one right behind it and each time there's a

portion for it so they get there was more of them and if that post means that like all the other

shadows I would go into one but I could never make out what they were well this one on for a

month I thought I was going not crazy so I was going to call a psychiatrist well but maybe

before I was going to call I come up with this idea I just I'm not going to lay there I'm going

to lay there I'm not going to try to flight to get away I'm just going to lay there see what

happened and for now the images of them they were more smaller is that one was holding my right

shoulder down my left shoulder hand on it my shoulder and my elbow I was on a table my arms are

all my palms are down and two come up on my leg one just to hit your one hand just above my knee

pushing my leg down your other hand holding my leg then above me there was like you know it's

like seeing them offering them big like but it was way high up I couldn't like look straight

up at it because it was so bright and I'm trying my head because thinking did I get wounded but

why am I thinking I got wounded so I'm looking over to where I got wounded and I look for my left

and out of the dark the room was wide dark the straight big tall alien probably I'm going to say

eight nine feet tall I'm out of the dark and come up to my midway I grabbed an instrument

up by the light with a left hand foot like the palm of the hand just below my sternum

and I had only three fingers and they were long they come all the way up on up to my throat

that big instrument is pulling it down towards me it's pulling it down towards my face I just

see it looks like a big syringe a big needle on it about the size of a pencil wow maybe even bigger

than that I got to myself oh my god that's going to hurt it's going to stick in right knee

eye with it and just for sure I see it's not coming towards my eye but just above it and it touched

me just above my right eye towards my nose and just above it almost where people say the third eye

is up there and it was like so just nothing I was awake and dead and all this information

I'm floating into my head there it was like an avalanche I couldn't grasp it all but I thought

I'm not for this but I knew what happened first night they abducted me they took me to the moon

and I was there and I was standing on the edge of a crater and just above me I could see

part of that ship and it was definitely sausage like I said maybe three feet away from the crater

and I take my feet and I move them back and forth and start flanking down I thought I'd go down

like three or four inches into the surface and look in the crater and I see three or four buildings

called but not with a call and off of two of them there was not some hut coming off of them

and there was some like flood glides on the tall buildings flashing down on them

see because that was dark I mean it was really black and they were camouflage and look just like

the moon that I remember that I remember is I was at the end of one of the quantum hut one through

one group of doors that shot there was another shot in front of it we had to wait there that there

was like a mist that came down or at all I was in a space suit I wasn't you know there I mean

I was in a space suit and then after a few minutes we walked through the second door I went to

a right and do a little thing and a human person helped me take the space suit off just where I took

a physical examination and I remember my two shirt my underwear they had a fold about a

quick board I had to clear it to different stations where they did different things testing me

that that's where they took the first time in a second time we had test scores here

so you want to see what your rack was when he sent you wasn't on earth out in space next

is where I'm not when I was bad and I was told that the other so you will not be afraid that this

is right not it that's why I was told so I would not be afraid it was doing a task ahead

you undermine control and I gotta tell you that is the strangest thing I ever had done

well I was standing there and it was standing right behind me and it was so close it's like

I could feel it against my body but it wasn't touching me and I was looking out this

I was looking around there was a window in front of me but it wasn't a window and I'm looking

out there and it's really black out there there and I looked down through my lap down a little bit

there I can see a planet probably size of a soccer ball size of a basketball beautiful blue color

and I think it was specific that I was looking at I know it was earth as I'm looking there the

mind to go I can feel its mind and pounding with my mind it's like they're a big ball of

string both our minds together and I can actually see with its eyes I'm looking at myself

popping my head and like I said this one one raised with like eight nine ten foot tall

who really tall we only have three fingers and I have a he had an artist draw a picture of him

one one raised raise I'm doing it there and it told me I was forbidden to turn around and look

at him and thought maybe that's why because I couldn't move nothing the only thing I could move

with my eyes and I think that's why it's because I was forbidden to turn around and look at him and I

said well why can't I see him and it answered me it said it was five other alien races plus one

military human we want to see what your reaction is that he's not on the planet and out in space

and it told me some other thing is that they wanted to make contact with a full contact they want

they wanted people to know about them but they have rules one of their rules are before they

make contact with any plan a full contact now this is my word I use government the government

of all the world have to agree on it and it said ruling powers they all have to agree on it

but if just one does know they will not make full contact now I've been saying this for years

and years telling people are saying about oh you know like last year I did a interview with a guy

and I told him I said they were back and I think it was doing there the American government was

supposed to come out with about you up all the people said oh they will not not gonna happen

anytime soon all the government from the world have gathered with three on them that's what it told me

okay Jim good job and at the time you didn't have you didn't have any of these memories these

memories came came later on no yeah because they came back and they gave him to me why I don't know

because if they didn't come back do that what I said for a whole month and that's there I would

still be wondering what happened to me then then after that is one I should I found out I could

call a new one oh I could go outside and I can just think about it and ask them to go tell me

that they're real and they show up I showed while I had my second wife do left me because you got

so afraid so they just turn up when you call them they turn up yeah they just yeah I can go out

there I can go out there and I I don't even have to look up on the guy and I showed a few people

and I can just point out on the guy and say look right up there and they get close to my arm and

watch my finger and I just just walk right there within a couple of times and just look

and when was your last experience edgium you want to go that one I was telling you about whatever

that was I asked for them to show me that they were real and two days later boom that's my story

that's what I have that's wonderful Jim there's definitely more going on and with the

government tell us there was there was something visiting her from other planet you're absolutely

right yeah no matter who they were I mean there has been aliens probably well probably before

Jim I really appreciate you coming on and sharing that for our listeners yeah okay you enjoyed

the rest of your morning okay and I'll be in touch okay yeah okay that's all right take

there you two Jim that's great take care yourself okay bye by Jim that is all for today

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thank you to Gary and Jay for sharing tonight and thank you all for listening I will be back next

week till then stay safe and keep watching the skies goodbye