Ep. 1835 - Pilots Saw This Disaster Coming. No One Listened.

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2:06increasingly dangerous and third world. We will begin with the footage of the crash itself, which was presumably shot by a plane spotter or someone who noticed the plane was having difficulty. And as you watch this, you will immediately realize that the pilots are responsible for the disaster. I mean, there's no question about it. They practically dive bomb the runway, and they don't even get all the wheels down until they're roughly halfway down the tarmac, but watch and see for yourself. Here it is. Now, there's really no need for an aviation expert to analyze the footage anyone has ever

3:10seen a plane land at any point in their lives understands the problem. This was a very unstable approach. They were not descending in a steady, predictable pattern. Instead, they were far too high and too fast. And indeed, according to radar data, they crossed a waypoint about four miles on the runway at 1,400 feet, which is 600 feet above where they should have been. The left main gear is clearly off of the runway for an extended period of time, even after the other landing gear make contact with the runway. And that means the plan can't stop effectively because none of the systems that slow the plane down, down the spoilers, the breaks, or the reverse thrusters, will work effectively or at all if the landing gear aren't on the ground. Now, you can see from this reconstruction just how long it took for these pilots to put the plane on the ground. It's not even close, really. So, according to the website FlightRadar, the plane was going 183 knots, ground speed, not air speed, at just 500 feet above the ground. So, they're about twice as high as

4:13they should have been, probably going around 30 to 40% too fast. Now, there could very well be a variety of reasons for why the plane wasn't able to fly a normal approach. It's quite possible that the wind contributed. Obviously, thunderstorms were visible behind the plane. As reported by meteorologist John Morales, there was a tailwind, because at the time this plane was landing, coming from the south at around 30 miles an hour, normally planes don't land with the tailwind, because it's too dangerous. And until a few minutes before the plane touched down, there was no tailwind at all. There was actually a small headwind coming from the west until the winds suddenly shifted. So, yes, it's conceivable that the wind shifted at the last minute, making this approach substantially more difficult. And additionally, it's also possible that the pilots simply weren't paying attention to their air speed or altitude. Now, whatever the case, really doesn't matter because whatever plane flies an unstable approach, this close to the runway, in every case, pilots are supposed to execute a go-around. That means they're supposed to abort

5:17the landing, apply full throttle, and come around for another pass, or divert to an alternate airport if necessary. This is the failsafe that solves all of these issues, and it's not optional. They were descending at a rate of 2000 feet per minute on their final approach, when the normal range is 500 to 800 feet per minute. Anything over 1000 feet per minute on the descent is automatically an unstable approach that requires a go-around. That's not even considering how long it took them to actually put the plane on the ground. They blew past at least a third of the runway, which is another reason for a go-around. At any point, as they were flying over the runway, and even as the landing gear first made contact, they could have aborted. Instead, they drove the plane off the runway onto a perimeter road, and they killed several people. In short, the only conceivable explanation for this crash is that the pilots had no business flying an airplane of any kind, much less a massive cargo plane. That's not really a debatable point. The footage makes it very clear. We don't need to

6:21wait for the federal government to conclude a five-year investigation to determine that the pilots caused this crash due to their manifest incompetence. Now the relevant questions are, who were the pilots exactly? Why did the airline hire them? What did their training look like? And what were regulators doing instead of supervising this airline? The first clue comes from the radio communications from this 21-air cargo plane just prior to the crash. So we'll play some of that footage, which was compiled by a channel called VAS Aviation. And to be clear, the call sign for 21-air is cargo south. So when you hear the pilot respond from cargo south, that's coming from the plane that ultimately crashed. And note that in a two-person crew, the pilot making the radio calls usually is not flying the plane at the same time. So with all that in mind, let's... 2598 heavy.

7:27Cargo south, 2798 heavy, and then we have 300, can we? It looks like we have aircraft over and the runway on 30. Yes, sir. At American, at 229. So do you see at the end the plane on the dirt? Yeah, American 297. Yeah, the airport's gonna be ground-stopped. So the pilot clearly has a foreign accent, which by itself may not seem like a big deal, but then you think of all the foreign-born truck drivers. So I've been mowing down Americans on the highway. And you start to wonder, does the same problem affect airlines? Is there an epidemic of unqualified pilots who can barely speak English who have been imported into this country to fly cargo planes or even passenger airlines on the cheap? That's a reasonable question ask. And it becomes even more reasonable when you look at this letter from the FAA to the director of operations of 21-air dated May of 2023. And the letter grants 21-air permission to quote

8:33substitute a qualified and authorized check airman in place of an FAA inspector to observe a qualifying pilot in command who is completing the initial or upgrade training during at least one flight leg that includes a takeoff and a landing. So yes, the FAA granted this cargo airline the ability to ditch the inspectors and certify their own pilots for takeoffs and landings. And you know, there are a few restrictions on the people the airline is allowed to substitute for the FAA inspector, but it's up to the airline to ensure compliance with those restrictions. So it's kind of like the honor system basically. The letter is basically the FAA allowing 21-air to self-regulate, which has become a very common theme in the aviation industry. It's one of the reasons those Boeing Max jets kept crashing. And this particular exemption is commonly issued to various airlines, but it's abundantly clear that certain airlines, especially garbage airlines, but perhaps like 21-air, should never have this authority. I mean, in this case, the FAA allowed 21-air

9:37to get rid of independent FAA inspectors and basically self-certify their pilots for landings. And now it's clear that their pilots were not capable of landing the planes, certainly in this case. So who are these pilots exactly? This is reporting from an engineer named Nick Plum. And here's what he says, quote, 21-air's pilot group appears to have grown from around 20 in 2021 to 135 today, probably to support the seven additional Boeing 767s. Amazon shifted to it from Atlas Air, another cargo airline. Public resumes show current pilots at 21-air with a prior flying careers in Venezuela, Colombia, Peru, Central America, Ethiopia, and India. 21-air also hires permanent residents and other work authorized non-citizens. How this little-known carrier scaled this fast, maybe worth digging into. And indeed it is. So this got my attention. So I decided to look

10:40closer at the reputation of 21-air in the industry. Specifically, I pulled up dozens of posts on airline pilot forums, which is one of the most popular message boards among pilots. If you're a pilot looking for a new job and you want to get a sense of the quality of a particular airline, this is almost certainly a site that you're going to visit. So two years ago, the reputation of 21-air was heavily discussed on the airline pilot forums because one user was interested in working there. Quote, you have no idea the horrors that await you at 21-air. It is the bottom feeder of all bottom feeders, clapped out rust buckets from Sanford and Sun. The turnover is 100% because it's so bad. There's nothing good in anyone's life going anywhere near 21-air. And then there's this. Quote, almost every pilot that left ABX, that's another cargo airline, for 21-air it was asked to resign because of how poorly they did in training. The only person I'm aware of that wasn't

11:42asked to resign was a prospective captain that got mad after he failed his e-tops check and left out of spite. The only thing I can confirm is that almost all the guys who left ABX for 21-air did so because ABX asked them to resign during training. There are many more posts we'll get to in a second, but just by themselves, these two comments paint a actually very familiar picture. If you remember, it was just a few years ago when another Amazon Prime cargo plane, which was operated by a different carrier called Atlas Air, crashed into the water while on approach to Houston. And the cargo plane was being flown by Conrad Aska, who was a DEI hire, who had no idea what he was doing in the cockpit. He constantly failed his simulator training at other airlines, but he wound up getting hired by Atlas Air anyway. Atlas Air of course promoted DEI all over its website at the time. And it didn't take long before Conrad Aska managed to fly a perfectly good airplane into the water.

12:44He accidentally pressed a switch that caused the plane's nose to tilt upward slightly, apparently because his gigantic watch hit the switch. And then in a panic for reasons that make no sense, he decided to push the nose of the plane as far down as he could, disregarding all of his instruments, which told him that he was crashing the plane. This is one of the more unbelievable sequences to ever take place in modern aviation. It's basically a kin accidentally pressing the accelerator pedal on your car. And then when the car lurches forward, you consciously decide to press down on the accelerator pedal for another 60 seconds until you crash into a wall going 100 miles per hour. That's essentially the equivalence here. Watch. The crew was setting up the approach procedure when the airplane encountered light turbulence. Shortly afterward, the autopilot and auto throttles entered go-around mode as the airplane was passing about 6300 feet. There were no flight crew callouts. Consistent with the activation of the

13:45go-around mode, the airplane arrested the decent and began a slight pitch-up and the thrust levers advanced. The speed breaks were retracted, which could only be done manually. The captain responded to a routine radio call while the first officer pushed forward on the column and made an expression about speed and exclaimed, we're stalling. There was no indication that the airplane actually stalled. It was likely that the first officer was experiencing disorientation due to the somatographic illusion in which airplane acceleration results in a false nose-high feeling. The airplane reached a steep nose-down attitude in high speed. Below about 3,000 feet, the airplane broke out of the clouds, the controls moved to full nose up, but it was too late before they impacted the bay. So that presentation was from the NTSB, which claims that the pilot became disoriented. Which is a very polite way of saying that he didn't have the IQ necessary to be a pilot. If your plane suddenly pitches up and your response is to fly the plane directly into the ground,

14:48even when all of your instruments are functioning normally, then you're not nearly disoriented. You are completely and totally incompetent. And indeed, it's becoming apparent that total incompetence are being allowed to fly massive cargo planes all over the country. In particular, they're getting hired by Amazon, or at least contractors for Amazon. And that's why seven years later, yet another Amazon plane has crashed in a very preventable, absurd fashion. The more you look into 21-air, the more complaints you'll find from other pilots about how the airline was destined for a major crash. So here's another pose, for example, where a pilot responds to someone who didn't get a callback from 21-air after an interview. The pilot describes a scenario where a 21-air cargo plane, working for a DHL, caused a major incident in Newark. Quote, no offense, but it's probably good they aren't calling you. The other night, we taxied behind a DHL cargo south. Again, it means a 21-air plane.

15:50Clamped out, 767 in Newark. Crew never turned on the beacon. Grounds screamed at them twice for not following directions. The English was poor. Guess they don't know how to handle a low altitude capture on the 76, because they blew past 2500 clearance. And you could tell they were struggling to get the airplane on track and on altitude. ATC was livid, not worth putting your certification on a line for a 36-street Venezuelan money laundering outfit. You're better off flying a paper airplane. Now, I'll be the first to admit that I don't understand everything in this quote, but from what I can tell with the help of Google, if we go line by line, the pilots of a 21-air jet failed to turn on the beacon on their plane, which is used for avoiding collisions, of course. They also got screamed at by ground controllers, presumably for being unable to taxi properly. And then once airborne, they climbed beyond 2500 feet without authorization, which endangered every other plane flying around Newark. And on top of all this, we're told that a 36-street

16:54Venezuelan money laundering outfit is involved. That's apparent reference to the well-established use of cargo airlines to smuggle drugs and other contraband to Central and South America. Although we should know, there's no evidence of 21-air is knowingly involved in anything like that. That's just what it said in that one, you know, post. Nevertheless, the testimonials along these lines continue to roll in. Again, all these are from a couple of years ago prior to this recent crash. Apparently, 21-air had earned the nickname 21-Scare among pilots. Quote, I've heard some scary stories of friends jump-seating on 21-Scare, terrain warning and controlled flight into terrain maneuvers, high altitude stalls, automation issues. The majority of the pilots English is their second language. Amazing, they haven't bent up a 767 yet. They're also in cahoots with our cargo jet, exploiting a loophole with temporary aircraft certificates and signing over airplanes from cargo jets to 21-air with a logbook entry

17:59and then operating domestic U.S. flights, then signing the aircraft back over and flying back to Canada. So yes, the person wrote that it was amazing that a 21-air hadn't destroyed a Boeing 767 given how terrible the airline is and just two years later, that's exactly what happened. They managed to destroy a jet and several vehicles in the jet's path, along with killing several people. Now, obviously, we can't vouch for the credibility of any anonymous post on the internet. I don't endorse anything these people are saying for the simple reason that I can't prove any of it. I'm just telling you what these people are reporting. But in this case, there's obviously reason to believe that these critics have some idea what they're talking about given the events of this weekend. It's a reasonable conclusion that they're not simply making up the fact that this airline has major problems. Again, given these very recent events. America's 36.2 million small businesses drive our economy,

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22:07cargo jet held significant roughly 25% ownership stake in the holding company of 21 air and former cargo jet executives have taken senior roles at 21 air. So it looks like 21 air is basically a middleman for foreign cargo companies to get around the requirement of US law. There are other alleged benefits that 21 air provides to this foreign airline reading on from another poster. It says, quote, you would not honestly believe what goes on there. It's the management team that perpetuates the complete madness, though. The executives are old buddies from the 36 street gangs back in the day. They don't know anyway else. The owners are real pieces of work. And 21 air is set up to fly struck freight if sister cargo jet goes on strike. You will be forced to get a Canadian validation to do this very thing. If you don't get fired, there's only one place worse than 21 air and that is world Atlantic. These two are where you go when no one else will take you. My surprise, not really, is that after all the incidents and poor training and conditions,

23:10the FAA lets these companies continue operate, but no one else will fly the flowers and the bodies and that famous white stuff in and out of the essay. It's really just that simple. You're honestly better at alligator alcatraz than 21 air. So that's a thinly veiled and unsubstantiated accusation. That 21 air is trafficking cocaine among other things. Again, I can't defer many of that. Obviously, I'm just telling you what they say. He's also saying that the primary purpose of the airline is basically to bust strikes that take place in Canada and that the executives of the company are corrupt friends from other fly-by-night cargo operations in Miami. Again, these claims, may or may not be true. I have no idea. But after what just took place in Miami with a 21 air cargo plane flying the single worst approach ever caught on film, at least in memory, there's no reason to automatically discount any of these posts. Everyone at the airline should be investigated.

24:11All of these pilots and industry professionals, everyone who made these posts, should be interviewed at a minimum. So here's one more post along these lines. Quote, for the love of God, stay as far away from this place as possible. You have no idea what you'd be getting yourself into. It truly is a bottom feeder of epic proportions. Management that has been on the same merry-go-round for years, they go from one bottom feeder to the next. Now again, you could discount all these claims if you want to. Certainly there are plenty of small airlines that get similar complaints on forums like this, including airlines that as of now have not had a fatal crash. So maybe this is all slander from random people with an accident. Maybe 21 air only hires the most competent pilots available. Maybe the executives are very ethical people and there was no way to prevent the crash that just took place in Miami. But if that's the case, you have to wonder why we're not allowed to know the names and employment history and qualifications of the pilots who were involved in the incident. This is obviously a matter of public concern. Five people are dead. A plane just

25:16creamed off the runway at a major airport. We have a right to know who was involved. So we can figure out how to prevent pilots like this from ever getting hired again. Whatever privacy rights these pilots have, they don't trump the public's right to know what happened. People are dead because of the actions of these pilots. So who are the pilots? Well, the government right now won't tell us. And that's not surprising. Since the government has a clear conflict of interest here, they supposedly regulate the airlines. Public disclosure of the identity of the pilots could reveal government incompetence or complicity in certifying these pilots, just like the government certifies incompetent truck drivers all the time. And for their part, for obvious reasons, the airlines also want to bury the story forever. And we shouldn't allow that. If the pilot hypothetically just got hired from Venezuelan airlines or something like that, it would be a national news story and rightfully so. But this has become normal in the aviation industry. In late 2022, a United Airlines passenger plane

26:19departing Maui plunged 7,000 feet per minute to within 800 feet of the ocean all because of pilot error. And to this day, we have no idea who these pilots were. They have not faced any kind of discipline either as far as we know. Watch. A frightening nose dive. We are learning about that United Airlines flight from Hawaii to San Francisco that nearly crashed into the Pacific. It happened in December, but tonight the report is out and we are hearing now from passengers. They call it a miracle. Rod Williams and his family were headed to San Francisco after a Hawaiian vacation. Very shortly into the flight itself, the pitch of the aircraft took a dramatic rise. It was December 18th, less than 90 seconds after departure. New data from flight radar 24 reveals the United Airlines triple seven suddenly dove, falling 7,000 feet per minute. We're all

27:21looking at each other, looking at the window, grabbing onto the seat, grabbing the hand of the person next to you, just praying under our breath. Again, maybe a screen here and there. Williams has an aviation background and says he had an idea of what was happening, but today he's learning they were 800 feet of slamming into the ocean. We're all that five to five point two seconds away from not being around 11 ones in a statement. United Airlines says after landing at SFO, the pilots filed a safety report then coordinated with the FAA and the pilots union on an investigation that ultimately resulted in the pilots receiving additional training. So the pilot wanted five degrees of flaps and the first officer sets 15 degrees instead. They don't realize it and they nearly crashes result. The key detail here is that the pilots self reported the mistake, which apparently grants them total immunity. The NTSB has concealed the pilots identities and the airline hasn't

28:21punished them solely because they self reported under the Aviation Safety Action Program or ASAP, which is something the FAA apparently endorses. Now, first of all, whether they self reported this or not, the passengers were going to report it themselves, so they don't really deserve any credit. Plunging 7,000 feet per minute is something you would probably notice if you're a passenger. And secondly, even if no one had noticed in somehow, self reporting should not grant you immunity from consequences. I mean, if you self report that you nearly crash a plane and kill everybody on board, you should be named and certainly fired and potentially arrested. Instead, we have a system where you suffer no consequences whatsoever. I mean, imagine if we had this system in any other profession, imagine if a police officer accidentally shoots at an innocent bystander and the bullet misses by a fraction of an inch. If he self reports what happened or we're just supposed to look the other way, it's absurd. But that's how it works in the Aviation Industry. Once you have enough

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31:28Now, even in cases where we do ultimately learn the identities of the pilots, it takes a while. A couple of years ago, for example, an American Airlines plane crossed roughly a thousand feet in front of a Delta flight with 145 passengers on board that was departing from Kennedy International Airport in New York. The American flight was supposedly, supposed to turn right to cross-runway 31 left, but instead it proceeded across runway 4 left where the Delta plane was taking off. Watch.

32:47Is that correct? American 106 heavy, we're departing runway 4 left. Yes, we'll listen to the tapes, but you were supposed to depart runway 4 left. You're currently holding short of 3-1 left. Roger, American, I'll go and help you. Back of 1-0, 6 heavy, cross runway 3-1 left, thank you. So this was seconds away from being one of the deadliest aviation accidents in history, and after the near-miss, the cover-up began. First, the crew did not report the incident to American Airlines. Instead, they flew all the way to London, a flight so long that the cockpit voice recorder was taped over. And then when federal investigators tried to interview them, the crew, on the advice of their union, refused to cooperate. The NTSB had to issue subpoenas to get them to talk, and it's because of those subpoenas that we ever learned the names of the pilots in the first place. For more than a year after the incident, their names were redacted.

33:52So finally, after the NTSB opened its public docket, we learned that the co-pilot, Tracey Gonzalez, claimed she had been distracted by a large number of weather alerts. She said that, quote, she was unaware of the airplanes position when the captain taxied on to runway 4L. She knew they were approaching a runway, but she did not realize they were approaching runway 4L. Meanwhile, the captain, Michael Graver, was equally clueless. He admitted he spotted big red lights, meaning do not enter the runway, but he disregarded them. Quote, all of a sudden, I saw that red glow and I just right away I said something, that ain't right. I didn't know what was happening, but I was thinking something's wrong. Obviously none of these pilots should ever work again, but as far as we know, they're still flying passengers around. The government hid their identities for months until the heat died down. The pilots stalled the interviews for as long as possible, and now that we've determined the pilots were culpable, nothing was done. Now to be clear, DEI is just one part of the story. Again, we still have no idea whether the pilots in the Miami

34:55crash were DEI hires or not. Yes, as a general matter, it's true that DEI pilots are being protected even after they nearly kill people. That's true, but we should also be honest about the fact that failing, falling standards in the aviation industry are linked to various cost cutting measures as well, including how companies outsource to contractors to lower overhead costs, skirt, liability, cause a race to the bottom to improve their revenues. One of the reasons Amazon hires multiple cargo companies to fly these planes is to pit the companies against one or another. Amazon wants to lower, you know, wants the lowest rates, so rather than hiring one dedicated high quality cargo airline, that they provide an incentive for these bottom feeding airlines to fight among themselves for the contract. For in hiring, of course, is another related element of the story. So is the fact that the FAA allowed this airline to self-certify its own pilots

35:56for takeoffs and landings. So we're extremely lucky that this accident as horrible as it was, only involved a cargo plane at a couple of vehicles. As I've been saying for several years now, we are on hrejectory where air disasters are going to become more common than ever. We simply have too many planes being flown in very congested airspace, along with too many exemptions and DEI pilots. The midair collision over the Potomac, which was caused by a female helicopter pilot, was a sign that something needs to change in this industry and quickly. And the crash of this Amazon cargo plane in Miami and all the warning signs that were missed is a reminder that none of those changes have actually taken place. In fact, it was just a few weeks ago that Marine One, the president's helicopter, was allowed to come far too close to a passenger plane over Reagan Airport in DC because the controllers missed a key radio transmission from the

36:56helicopter. This is the state of American aviation. We can't even keep the president's helicopter safe. We are reliant on a small number of air traffic controllers who hate their jobs, foreign pilots who can't speak English, and airlines that self-certify their own terrible pilots. This is a setup that makes many more disasters inevitable. And until someone in the government has the foresight of random anonymous pilots and an online message board, we can expect that nothing will change. And every flight you board will carry a substantial, preventable, unnecessary risk because of it. That'll do it for the show today. Thanks for watching. Thanks for listening. Talk to you tomorrow. Have a great day. Godspeed. Every significant movement in history started with protesting. How have tried it? Uncle Todd? This is our generation civil rights.

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