Ep 164: Incarcerated & Fire Fighting - California's Conservation Camps

In an effort to try to understand WTF is going on as Los Angeles burns, Taylor spent a lot of time this week looking for misinformation and trying to find facts in this mess. It's wildly complicated; we're glad we don't work in accounting for a state or large city. One thing is for sure thank you Cal Fire for all you are doing to stop this disaster. 

One thing that stood out is that 800 or so of the firefighters in LA right now are currently incarcerated. We go back to the 13th Amendment, which says that essentially, slavery & indentured servitude can be used as punishment for a crime. This is still the case in California, where just this November, people voted 'No' on Prop 6 that would have removed 'Slavery' from California.

Back in LA, about 800 incarcerated people fight wildfires. They are paid, although very, very little, and they are part of the California Conservation Camp program. It's a tough job, and we are so grateful that they are doing it. It's again back to the budget; where does CA's 130k per prisoner every year go? How can the system support these firefighters to become actual firefighters after they are released? So many other resources are needed to move forward.

Anyway! Let us know what you think! 

 

GoFundMe Donation Page – https://www.gofundme.com/c/act/wildfire-relief/california

Anti Recidivism - https://antirecidivism.org/

Who caused the LA fires? Blame swirls amid tragedy. - https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2025/01/10/california-wildfires-who-to-blame/77593196007/

https://www.drought.gov/topics/soil-moisture

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Ana_winds

That’s not right politics - https://www.instagram.com/reel/DErGsZMsU9A/?igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==

LA Times - https://www.instagram.com/reel/DErBUFNRSjH/?igsh=NjZiM2M3MzIxNA==

Lacontroller - https://www.instagram.com/lacontroller/?hl=en

Fire fighters https://www.instagram.com/reel/DEqrBKLvXrq/?igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==

 

Pod save America https://www.instagram.com/p/DEs7XapSIuB/?img_index=1&igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DEsnC-eh6BY/?igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==

 

FACT CHECK: Oregon fire engines allowed to fight wildfires in California - https://katu.com/news/local/fact-check-oregon-fire-engines-allowed-to-fight-wildfires-in-california

CA Voter Guide 2024 - https://vig.cdn.sos.ca.gov/2024/general/pdf/complete-vig.pdf

https://voterguide.sos.ca.gov/propositions/6/arguments-rebuttals.htm

California prisoners are battling wildfires in long-running and controversial practice - https://laist.com/news/climate-environment/california-wildfires-incarcerated-firefighters-2025#do-they-completely-choose-what-they-do

https://antirecidivism.org/

https://www.charitynavigator.org/ein/462140915?donateNow=true&source=searchAutocomplete

https://www.cdcr.ca.gov/facility-locator/conservation-camps/

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