EP #144: Concrete Isn’t Too Expensive — The System Around It Is
About this episode
Concrete Is Losing on Cost. Here’s How to Take It Back.
Concrete keeps getting priced out of jobs, not because it can’t compete, but because we keep doing the same things the same way.
In this episode, Seth Tandett sits down with Rich Szecsy to talk about where concrete costs actually come from and why material price increases are only part of the story. They walk through how specs, local codes, labor assumptions, and risk avoidance quietly stack the deck against concrete, even when it’s the better material.
This isn’t a theoretical discussion. It’s a practical look at what contractors, engineers, and producers can question, change, and push back on if they actually want concrete to stay competitive.
WHAT YOU’LL LEARN
· Why concrete keeps losing bids to steel and other materials
· How self-compacting concrete can cut labor without cutting performance
· Where specifications quietly drive cost more than material prices
· How local codes create massive cost disparities for the same building
· Why fear of sharing ideas slows innovation across the industry
· How small, incremental changes can unlock real savings
· Why understanding the full contractual chain matters more than mix price
· What questions teams should be asking earlier to avoid cost traps
CHAPTERS
00:00 – Intro and how to support the Concrete Logic Podcast
02:36 – Why concrete is struggling to compete on cost
05:32 – Self-compacting concrete and labor reduction
08:18 – How specifications quietly drive cost
10:55 – Engineering challenges baked into specs
13:44 – Local codes and why the same building costs more in different cities
16:31 – The industry’s fear of sharing ideas
18:58 – Incremental changes that actually move the needle
21:32 – Local regulations and hidden cost multipliers
23:56 – Asking better questions earlier
GUEST INFO
Rich Szecsy
Bio: https://www.concretelogicpodcast.com/guests/rich-szecsy/
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CREDITS
Producer: Jodi Tandett & Concrete Logic Media
Music by Mike Dunton: https://www.mdunton.com/
WHERE TO FIND SETH
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