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EMPLOYMENT IS DEAD: How Disruptive Technologies are Revolutionizing the Way We Work, with Deborah Perry Piscione and Josh Drean

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In this podcast episode, Dr. Jonathan H. Westover talks with with Deborah Perry Piscione and Josh Drean about their book, EMPLOYMENT IS DEAD: How Disruptive Technologies are Revolutionizing the Way We Work.

Deborah Perry Piscione is co-founder of the Work3 Institute, an AI + web3 advisory firm, a  Silicon Valley serial entrepreneur, venture capitalist, and  innovation + future of work thought leader.  Deborah is the author of multiple books, including the New York TImes bestseller Secrets of Silicon Valley and serves as a LinkedIn Learning instructor on innovation and risk-taking.  Deborah’s work has been covered in The Economist, New York Times and Wall Street Journal and is the subject of a GSB Stanford University Case Study on “...Finding Opportunity”. She was previously a staffer in the U.S. Congress and The White House, and served as an on-air commentator on CNN, MSNBC, and Fox News.


Josh Drean is a co-founder of the Work3 Institute, web3 + Workforce Advisor at the Harvard Innovation Labs, and an HR Transformation expert who marries emerging technologies with workplace strategies. Josh’s work has been featured in HBR, Forbes, Fast Company, and MIT Technology and his YouTube channel has garnered millions of views. He earned his undergraduate degree in I/O psychology and a masters degree at Harvard University, where he incubated and sold an HR Tech startup.

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EMPLOYMENT IS DEAD: How Disruptive Technologies are Revolutionizing the Way We Work, with Deborah Perry Piscione and Josh Drean

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