EMERGENCY POD: RIP Summer House (West & Amanda Full Discussion)

0:00It's times like this I wish I had a soundboard because I would sound the alarm red alert all hands on deck It is an emergency brawfroze podcast because some serious shit just popped off that we need to discuss Yeah, these assholes couldn't do it on a different week. We have to have seven fucking bravo shows going on at one time It's like nah, we're gonna do this now. We're just gonna we're gonna release our joint statement, but says nothing Amanda and West's scandal of all 2.0. Let's dive in As there's a drive in a deep left field by Castellanos, it will be oh man, it's eight o'clock and so that'll make it a I don't need this spotlight. I shine just fine Hi, I'm karma and yes, I am a bitch brawfroze Good evening everybody and welcome back to another episode of brawfroze your favorite podcast from the bros for whoever wants to listen I am your co-host steel Russell joined as always by the one and only

1:04sure Shoot lock homes What's up, dude? Okay, yeah, I mean I would I would feel more like shoot lock homes if we were doing this before Confirmation if we were just like yeah, you know, let's just throw a podcast together. We'll just talk about all the evidence to see what happens It's all confirmed Famous we would be if we had done that if we had just took a Hail Mary shot and been like here's our ideas like a month ago A month ago would have been a good time, I think but this I mean this past week has been just a shit storm of evidence and People firing things out and then there's reasonable doubt to come into play and then it's like is Duma a reliable source anymore because Duma I was kind of turned into that AI Facebook poster where it's like Hey, yeah, ship and pregnated a gator down in Florida He's not paying child support and then you got all the idiots just commenting like wow, I knew he was a bad guy That's kind of where it was leading here, but I'm just making the I've you seen the Facebook AI post that people fall for It's incredible. It's unbelievable stuff up there. I'm assuming it's like the onion

2:09It's not it's people I think I were just taking away from all of this, but I'll explain it. It was It's people that use Facebook posts and they just have AI right unbelievable stories like Sally's pregnant Who's baby is it and it's Sally's not pregnant obviously and then there's thousands of comments with idiots online They're like oh my god. I knew that you could do that like Jesus Christ anyway But yeah, I mean this last week has been just an avalanche of evidence It's been so many different things pointing and then you have a lot of people it kind of reminded me of the secret episode from stranger things Sorry steel where people were looking at all this different evidence like is it good to go here? No, actually it's an April Fool's joke Actually, it's a Buffalo Wild Wings campaign. No, it's not it's exactly what we thought it was and just goes to prove you once again that When there's smoke there is fire especially in the Bravo universe Yeah, I do have to point out two things one I almost burned this hat to make a funny real years ago

3:12But something told me I would need it again and what better time to break out my lightning bolt Tom Tom hat Then for this event because I mean obviously some of the parameters are different and we'll discuss all of that Those a little bit because I don't I'm not calling it scandival 2.0. I think it's scale. Yes Yeah, exactly is bad. Yes, but all the parameters are very different I don't even want to talk. It's a whole new thing It is a whole and I look the Bravo universe has been hungry for something that rival scandal ball here You have it. This is exactly what it is. I want to find a new name for it though because we definitely need a new name But the placeholder is definitely Yeah, now that's that's what we already used for Amanda friends boring like it will come up That's going to be part of this show is trying to figure out a name And I agree it needs its own thing but for the time being everyone understands what I'm saying when you say scandival 2.0 and My big thing my other thing I need to point out I got to give her credit

4:13Dev called this A long time ago before there was chatter about this Dev was on it I think it was either last year or episode one of this season She saw weird interaction. She said to me Amanda and West are hooking up and I was like, you're nuts. No way. That's ridiculous This is going to be West redemption season. He would never and she would absolutely never To Sierra that would be insane Amanda doesn't have that inner that leads me to my first question Okay, and I went live with our Instagram followers before this and They had all the questions in the world as well, but my question to you Have we been so blinded by Kyle, you know, it's so easy to pinpoint things where it's like they're drinking You know going out to DJing all of the shenanigans that he does Have we been so blinded by that that there actually have been things that Amanda's been doing Maybe not in sense with the West stuff

5:14But just overall where this shouldn't be as shocking as it is, but we just didn't look deep enough I mean, yeah, definitely. I don't This season is going to get a little it's going to go haywire of course And this is one of my least favorite things about scandals like this and you know We even talked about it a little bit with Amanda and Kyle breaking up before the season. Oh god this whole thing's a wash That it's going to turn into a free for all where people are trying to just key in on certain things that happen Bravo editors are of course in the lab. I'm sure looking through all their footage trying to find anything that points the West And Amanda potentially hooking up before Kyle and Amanda broke up Which I'm sure will be a whole segment of this episode But it's one of my least favorite things because it just scraps the whole season like every other storyline that we have going on See you later in the city probably see you later to be honest It's just kind of it's a big shadowy cloud that's just going to hang with us until we get to filming Which is another segment that we're going to have to talk about where's the show go from here because I think the whole show just crumbles Because all of the good hope all of the good karma that we've been building up this great cast that seems really

6:19Variator to why it's apparently where it gets to a point. It's just like how do we even move forward? It can see air and move forward like all of those things are going to have to be discussed I think you go back even deeper. I think you go back to and a lot of people are circulating that The footage of I forget it was like season six with jewels where jewels basically calls out Amanda for not having any trust It's like how can I trust you? Well, how can I trust you? You let Kyle still in your relationship and he's been cheating on you So you're not very trustworthy. You can look back in the vault if you will of summer house and look at all the different Reasonings that you can come up with with Amanda and say yeah, you're not really a girl's girl Yeah, you're always going to sympathize with the male. Yeah, you're going to do this Yeah, you're going to do that those things short go forward if you have the time go back and do all those things Yes, we're going to see things we're going to see things like that'll just smack us over the head much like we did and again I'm not calling it scat of all but Going back and looking at that season of the PR. It's like yeah, of course. It was there the entire time We just weren't looking for it Yeah, and I like obviously that's always going to be

7:22a counterpart or a part of this then a counterpart Side note banana That thing I just sent you actually is helpful. It's it's a just a little tab of what The receipt is where it came from and when so it's like page six said on march this So you need to pull directly and it's in chronological order. So that's probably the easiest thing to use out of everything but yeah That does become the issue right we we have to sift through a lot of bullshit It's like when the police put a tip line out and they're like call in if you see this person They get like a billion hits just because people want to join the fun So yes, we're going to look Probably too deeply into some one off moments where it's like what do you mean by that? There are things that we're pulling up from the past where it is starting to paint a different picture Most notably for me and I forget whose page it was on and I'm very sorry. I'm not giving you credit So much content today. I know it's hard to keep track But it was do you remember I think it was two years ago two or three seasons ago

8:24They were playing a drinking game Daniel was still on the show and the question was who do you trust the least? Yeah, and she thought about it for a while She's like oh because she's a curveball. You never know what you're going to get a manda And I specifically distinctly remember sitting here with you and saying that's a ridiculous thing to say Like why would she even say that But you start to put that shit together. That's the stuff. I'm paying attention to what other people have said about her on the show Jewels Danielle. I forgot Hannah Hannah, obviously Hannah, I feel like she's on top of the world right now, but In that scene where Danielle says I don't trust Amanda at least trustworthy on the cast Lindsey co-signed and it's such a quick like boop It's a quick camera shift that she just says I agree really fast and then it moves on I didn't see that part Lindsey co-signs it so everyone on the cast seemingly has known this about Amanda But there's a third part to that scene Kyle Is hammered, but he's also like wait can we dig more into that please and that perked his year up

9:29And it could have been that he was drunk and they're talking shit about his wife and he's like wait What do you mean by that? But to me Hindsight, obviously, it seemed like he was like wait, what do you mean? Has he heard things before? Has he had Suspissions before is this like Ah, this is what happens when this shit happens. It's like you go back. It's like oh my god. What did they know? What didn't they know? But that scene to me really sticks out because that was 2023 Yeah, the the summer of 2020 or not. I guess it was the summer of 2022 aired in 2023. Whatever. That was a long time ago and even back then Amanda labeled these trustworthy in the group with a Lindsey co-sign the Lindsey co-sign is where I was really like oh shit That seems like it's important Yeah, no for sure and I do think when you go back and look at all of that There have been a lot of different things that have been said about it Yeah, not being a girls girl not being trustworthy But it doesn't mean that it goes to this level. That's the big girl right yeah sure Yeah, I mean look if she's floating around and she's single now and she's hooking up with Luke or she's yeah

10:30That's the other part to me. It's just fucking bewildering you live in New York you were getting What would probably be close to what Ariana got after scandal all you were gonna get that kind of glow up I mean you're hot you've got a lot of things going for you everybody's looking at Kyle like fuck that guy And again none of this excuses any of Kyle's behaviors He's gonna get off so easy because the reunion's just gonna be peppering West and Amanda the whole time So whatever leave Kyle out of this whole thing Amanda was destined for Whether she deserved it or not some sort of meteoric spike where she was just gonna rise to a super stardom Everybody was gonna look at her. She's gonna get all these brand deals. Everything goes kaput I mean even today a brand posted and it was some sort of clothing brand and it had Amanda as the face of the brands Which is incredibly funny in the caption like You know, it's just like any other day or something along those lines And then 10 minutes later immediately remove the post reposted and cut Amanda's face out so still used her body

11:31But I've removed Amanda's face which is just very funny and of course you know the way things work the internet stays forever So you'll never really get away from that. It's all about how you balance back So to think that she had all of this in the bag ready to go you live in New York You could go date like a fucking football star a basketball star a model whoever the hell you wanted And instead you settle for somebody in the inner circle not only Do you settle for and you know west is west You settle for west out of all of those things and not only that It's the it's your best friend. You're supposed best friend's ex who she has all these feelings for And that's another thing that I'm gonna get into is going into all of this with all the evidence It's piling up. It's piling up. You know that it's gonna happen. You know that all this is gonna break You start thinking about okay like at the very least. It's just fucking lame as hell At most you burned your best friends and this is really fucking shitty and you deserve all this smoke You have to think like all right Maybe we didn't see some things maybe at the end of the seasons here I'm west sit down and they just decide to be friends and this isn't really that bad

12:33But again, it's just incredibly lame No, all of that goes out the window You did actually burn your best friend to do this to settle with west in the biggest fucking city in the country Where you could have probably had any man that you wanted you went to west and did all of these things So you get absolutely no sympathy from anybody you get skewered west is gonna get a little less skewered But a man that should probably get the most skewered in this whole situation I agree. I mean west Very close second like I don't think that he's going to just because You know, it paints the whole season differently you go back to that scene of them arguing in him in the bathroom And it's like that's knowing what we know now like how wild the inappropriate that Not only that, but Mia, KJ and Sierra all having a very open heart conversation About what it's like being black on reality TV What it's like being a minority on reality TV and all the things that you have to do You didn't think about any of that are you fucking kidding me? Well, even more specifically in that conversation Such a big part of the fallout that Sierra received was DMs about getting quote-unquote punked by a white boy

13:40Yep Like that that's such a major part and it's interesting because I posted a reel about this and Multiple of our followers pointed out that that part of this entire thing, which is 100% valid And it's there's other people and they're obviously being idiots where it's like off with that adulting to do with it That absolutely has everything to do with it because I mean it would have regardless But the fact that that conversation occurred on this show recently Means that this has everything to do with it because now Sierra Is going to potentially get DMs about getting punked by both West and Amanda to white people like that was the root of Why she was so upset is because of the fallout that she got from the black community So for you to say that that's not part of this is ridiculous. It absolutely is and that is such a different layer of West and Amanda like just not caring right like that's where I Don't have any sympathy. I don't have any sympathy regardless

14:40But you start to put the pieces together and the layers to this thing. It's like wow At the very least Amanda you are besties with Sierra West you were really close with Sierra and you guys knew this Mia and KJ and Sierra did a great job of explaining it very straightforward You knew this and you still were too selfish to check your own inhibitions like Absolutely not and that's one of 50 things That you refuse to acknowledge in the pursuit of this quote-unquote relationship not to mention as you said Amanda you threw this all away for West my big thing with that You tapped out on Kyle because he partied too much drank too much party boy lifestyle. You didn't like that That's hard to believe now Because you just married a young or sorry not married Jesus you just got with and are dating they better get married I know seriously, but it's a it's a younger version of Kyle That cannot commit that's how this is gonna go. I think Amanda is gonna be all in genuinely

15:43West is gonna burn her after I don't know how long but that's how this ends they do need to get married This whole thing should just end and and that was one thing that they touched on and Pucking in their little Their joint post which is very funny that Amanda had a joint post with Kyle about ending their marriage Now you're in another joint post six months later with West about ruining your friendship with Sierra about clowning her About just clowning her in the public eye and doing all of this bullshit under her nose And that's the other part of it too like we didn't know leading up to it when all the evidence is piling up Like does Sierra know is it already kind of there? No like everything kind of points to over the last 10 days That Sierra realizable was going on and that's why the Amazon live fell apart That's why she wasn't liking any of the pictures and now today she unfollowed both of them So this is all news to her too So she's finding out with the rest of us Which is even more fucked up and then how far back does it actually go now? We're getting news from fucking Dave Portnoy that him and Brianna chicken fries sat down at the Super Bowl And she said yeah, West and Sierra are hooking up West was posting pictures with Sierra at the Super Bowl

16:45She didn't know about any of that so then how far back does this actually go then we get the smoke screen where it's like No, actually Amanda's just hanging out with West a lot. She's hanging out with his friends She might be hooking up with Aiden Blake, which is one of his close friends There's pictures of the two of them holding hands That's not that big of a deal that actually makes a lot of sense. They're a little bit closer and age Okay, cool. That's a smoke screen the smoke screen actually worked for a little while like all right Yeah, we're not thinking about West because we couldn't fathom that they would do this to Sierra We couldn't fathom that they would play like that and it low and behold They were and how long have they been doing it for probably since before the Super Bowl Which is insane. They may have been doing this since the winter They may have been doing this since the summer like we don't know how far back this goes But it opens all those doors was she actually stepping out and obviously you know their marriage was their marriage They're still married was she stepping out on Kyle to be with West was there more there again? Not exonerating Kyle at all, but he said in the middle of that big fight and in the bathroom She's been spending a lot more time with you than she has been with me. That's a polarizing statement now All the sudden everything that's been said this whole summer going back to when they're still married

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22:03Let's get into it. It's bananas And actually after that quick break because steals daughter actually just heard the news So now we've got babies cry about all the shit going on I actually did more digging and I'm gonna Retract my statement Sierra actually blocked both of them. So that is very different than just on following the simple and follow Hey, the whole thing's just a cluster fucker. I mean I don't is Montauk gonna be able to survive. I don't know. Yeah, that's that's the big question I don't know, but I mean I'd say it's Montauk. Yeah Montauk. Yeah nice. Well done. I like that. Yeah, it's pretty good But one earlier Yeah, Sierra There's rumors out there that like Somebody had let her know that they were gonna hard launch today that there was like inklings here there I don't think that's true I mean we all saw that picture of her sitting outside of what looked like a photo shoot or something like that

23:09You know that this Crustor and if you really think about it Think about how many times She sat in that bed With Amanda how many times that we don't see during the off season where I'm sure they discussed west Like that's where I keep going back to Amanda was Sierra's soundboard When she was going through all the west stuff I can't imagine knowing all of that and like that's how they're gonna spin this And I already know how it's gonna come out. We didn't expect this to happen like west is just always there for me And like one night they could just became something more no you are grown-ups your adults like this is called self-control You don't burn your friend like that. I don't care if you're on reality TV Amanda That is some slimy slimy shit because you know damn well That Sierra told her all the things and you know damn well that Sierra's in love with that man We said that all season we said that last year like that's what it's giving love

24:11And I know Amanda knows that so there's no way that you can spin this. There's no romcom weird Spin zone that you're gonna give me where I'm like, oh, you know what at the end of the day No, nothing about this is cool. Nothing about this is okay. That's why Like people are saying. Well, it's not scared of all the it's on the same level. It's different I agree wholeheartedly. I know it's different different parameters different this different that the fallout And the the types of people involved Like that's where this becomes similar because of the gravity of the situation Yeah, and the other big part of this is there's reports out there that nobody on the cast knew So nobody who was with the cast nobody who's been friends with them They've been doing a lot of promos recently. They've been hanging out a lot recently They didn't know and there's TMZ out there reporting the Kyle cook apparently Asked West and Amanda a bunch of different times are the rumors true are the rumors true They denied West went on watch what happens live last week very clunky response

25:12But he denied Amanda went on a podcast a couple of weeks ago denied said that she would never touch anybody on the show She even went on a different podcast. That was February 2026 By the way, that was what what happens live February 2026 she went on watch what happens live on the third And she said it place because she was also on a different she was on a different podcast She's been on like so many different things. She's on another podcast saying that she's manifesting just a younger man Who's gonna make all of her dreams come true and just somebody that she can hang out with for a little while? I guess that's West There's so many things that have happened. There's so many things that they have said Outwardly denying the whole situation and maybe they thought and look I this kind of goes show you with their stupid ass press release They thought that maybe it was just a quick fling like a couple of weeks Nobody's gonna know anybody and nobody's gonna be a Kind to knowing exactly what we're doing we can go ahead and hide all of this and then we can just bury it And no one ever has to talk about it

26:12And then it became it just blossomed into this beautiful thing You wouldn't have to do a joint statement right now saying it's just something. It's still very fresh When there's reports about you guys doing this three months ago. It's not very fresh anymore You guys have been doing this for a while you guys have been hiding this for a while There should be some sort of I don't know a motion of like all right Well, it's all out there. What are we going to do now? And instead it's like well, it's very fresh Give us some boundaries guys. No one's going to give you boundaries No one's giving Sierra boundaries, which is fucked up in in a completely different way of course But the whole thing is just an absolute unbelievable mess that It won't get cleaned up like that's the other question is what is this look like moving forward? What does summer house look like moving forward? Are Wested Amanda going to be in the master bedroom next year? Is that what we're going to be dealing with because I don't want to deal with that shit I don't know if you're hitting your desk or something, but there's something reverberating It's not a big deal. It's like just if it doesn't the whole episode it might be a noticeable but no anyway

27:17I mean, that's the crazy thing when you start to break down the timeline and we went ahead and compiled actual evidence with dates and everything And where everything was said who said what and if we go back the public split obviously was in January between Kyle and Amanda we all knew that that's not crazy. We were expecting it whatever As Shooter said we get towards like February 3rd is when she says that she's swearing off of summer house men for good The big thing The big smoke screen that was attempted to be thrown out there was March 3rd That was when she went out and said publicly that Sierra is one of the kindest most loving loyal friends and West was the most supportive in Authentic and non-performative ways saying He's such a good guy. That's who West is so that was her I'm assuming trying to get ahead of this thing or trying to quell some rumors here But that is when two days later March 5th is the doom wall rumor

28:18That's when a shit really hits the fan And sorry if I say this wrong. It's Mary Claire or Marie Claire I'm you guys know what I'm talking about but Anyway, that was when the first report came out on everything and US US weekly us weekly us weekly us weekly us weekly They did a hit a hit piece banana us weekly came out addressing the rumors Saying that we've talked to everybody these aren't true. That was on the 10th, I think So all of this shit is building up meanwhile if you're a bravo fan You already know and I'll get back to my my dates time proof Timeline screenshots everything in a second But you guys know I think it was it's probably late February Things started to heat up that's when dev really started talking about it And she'd been on it for a while like I said But things start to ramp up the big thing that we all know at home Once it hits reddit and once it starts to gain traction

29:23There is always going to be a big reveal like there's a certain type of bravo rumor like we've we've done this so many times I'm not to this degree obviously, but you kind of can feel When Something's real and not by intuition, but you see the evidence come out you're like all right whatever And then things start to trickle out the big telling point Is the cast when because they're shady and I'll start doing little hints here and there There'll be little posts where you're like, what did that mean? And the fact that we go further down the road In March and this is something that I wouldn't have picked up on Of course dev did and so many other people did Amanda and Sierra were supposed to do an Amazon live together. Yeah, I'm not Sierra did it with Lindsay, I think instead. Is that right? They just did they ended up doing it solo So that was the whole thing that really broke everything apart Was all the rumors just started to culminate a little bit and then there was a report that Sierra and Amanda were supposed to do something for Amazon live And then at the last minute they split and they did something separately instead

30:26So that was a big tell in the middle of all of this and then people started to really look into it like okay Is Sierra liking Amanda's post no is Amanda liking Sierra's post no so there was enough there and again I don't think it was really confirmed until today So I do think the rest of the cast really found out and really found out all the evidence today With the rest of us, which is fucked up I mean, they're all very close to the situation especially Sierra But the whole thing really came to a head at that point and that's when people started posting that's when you started getting Not only was Duma posting, but you had everybody on tiktok I mean I was on tiktok for the last four or five days people were throwing things at the wall And the big thing that stood out to me was it's all evidence based on different cities Which is a big thing. They're not in the york necessarily doing this. Yes behind closed doors and in their apartments They are I'll get to that in a second But there's people posting and there's peacock executives that are talking to their friends saying Yeah, I was at an event out in LA Amanda and West were all over each other. Oh, I was at a bar down in Miami. Amanda and West were all over each other They're doing things in different cities. So they're trying to be even more sneaky

31:28So that's a huge issue now when all of that evidence is coming out when all the quote unquote evidence is coming out They're still reasonable doubt like okay, we really know what's going on We don't want to jump into this and you and I always say that like it We really want to jump into this because if we're wrong, which unfortunately Danny Pellegrino was Horribly wrong where he's like, I don't believe any of it They would never do that to od Sierra. They would never do that to their castmates They would never do that in front of us That would just never happen. I just don't believe it Unfortunately, people like that end up being incredibly wrong So you do have to kind of take a stance But that all of that shit coming out and then finally getting another tomboy break Where somebody took a picture of the two of them in Amanda or West's apartment through their window First off that person needs to go to jail Send that person to jail. That's not okay. Send that person straight to jail But It does add more fuel to the fire like okay This is really coming apart at the seams and then that's when the summer house cast starts posting their little reaction picks Carl put one up Lindsey put one up Mia put one up KJ put one up

32:30Everybody KJ put another thing up today you he put up a song Where it was like don't go stabbing me in the back or something and it's just like it's crazy I mean, it just shows you where the cast is like the cast is not divided on this the cast is taking a step back Looking at the two of them like what the fuck are you doing? How could you do this? So they're all fighting out in real time too Which is a very interesting nuance to all of this because there's not a lot of seeds out there And people are obviously going to start taking their shots as all of this gets confirmed And it's just it's a complete cluster fuck like how they thought that they would ever be able to get away with this is wild to me And then obviously they started getting a little bit more audacious And they started making some risks and going out to bars together And they have the smoke screen of aid and Blake that I mentioned before it's just so stupid I mean, obviously yeah, you can look at all the wrong things But then when you get into the all of the actions that they were doing It's really fucking stupid. How did you think you were ever going to get away with this? Exactly, and you know they went as far to They were spotted at a restaurant in Queens thinking if we get out of Manhattan

33:32Maybe not in Manhattan guys. It's like what you're everyone knows who you guys are like that's the point of reality TV And the point of creating a brand for yourself is that you're recognizable so you can make money off of it So going to Queens, you're still in New York City So yeah, I guess they were It seems to me that there's this like level of Erragance in situations like this you saw it with Raquel and sand of all where I'm assuming to get away with it for A certain amount of time Yeah, and they start to get a little reckless and they start to get a little false confidence going Hey, you know, and I think they convince each other like I mean, well, I love you And you love me our love is too strong to not be able to go and it builds into this thing where they start taking risks And as soon as they start taking risks the house a card starts to fall And you start involving the rest of the cast that's where it's going to gain Some traction and gain some speed, you know, they have Kyle talking to people magazine

34:32March 10th and they asked them about the rumor and as Shooter said already He peppered both West and Amanda with questions. Is this real? Tell me about it. He on watch what happens live said Look, I don't think this is true But if it is West if that's who Amanda picks I want her to be happy. He said that. Don't watch what happens live I don't think he thought there was any merit to it at the time I think he might retract that statement now But that's irrelevant because you start to put these puzzle pieces together and the biggest question that arises When did this start? Mm-hmm, and that's what we're all thinking about now Now we're going to go back last year two years ago and try to pick up on little things That's where we're going to get messy and people are going to start finding things that aren't things And we're going to have to sift through all the bullshit Yeah buckle up everyone. It's coming but We have to know what that start date was and it may seem trivial at this point because it's like the damage is done

35:32The damage isn't done No, the damage has just begun if this goes back Into Kyle and Amanda's marriage if this goes back to when West was still pining over Sierra or that whole thing If this goes back God forbid God fucking forbid this goes back three years ago Well, we're going to get clips We're going to get clips that are just going to like try to push you in that direction I don't know. I mean the door is wide open at this point. I know Usually I'm the one that's a little bit pessimistic like no I your grasp and it draws with that who the fuck knows I mean this something like this something with this kind of scale Yeah, I don't care go back as far as you want to go back to West coming on the show I mean he was friends with them before even out on the show I mean who knows what the fuck's going on there And then you know In all of the other funny nuances like watching Ben this season and we're talking about uh was Ben hooking up with Amanda And was he trying to get after Amanda at some point did they hook up? We don't know I mean how much more are their bodies buried somewhere in New York

36:34Where Amanda was actually cheating on Kyle towards the end of their marriage We have the right to ask those questions everybody has the right to ask those questions So it's just very interesting the way that the whole fucking story breaks Because not only is it just everything that happened not only is it just West and Amanda Then you bring in the Sierra situation then you bring in the rest of the cast Then you're going to bring in all these other questions like was she actually cheating on Kyle during the end of their marriage Like that is where you're going to go and unfortunately you don't really have a leg to stand on You can't get mad at people for asking those questions You can't get mad at people for going back and watching summer house from two three seasons to go to see if there's any evidence there Going back on socials and see if there's evidence there like that's what people are going to do when you have some sort of scandal like this I agree and there's so many pieces that that make it worse As as we go through everything because You know, there's an epidemic in this country right now where if you just keep saying lies over and over again People lose interest and they're like well, I mean whatever and then you don't count the amount of times that they lied

37:37And you're like it's just one big lie that's where shit Because each time that they did this is its own individual offense such as West going on watch what happens live a week ago Seven days ago Okay, and he says to Andy Cohen No, that's just a friend. That's my home girl is what he says So he lied a week ago about this on TV. So I guess Where it gets confusing for me in all of these situations when you get Something like this happened. What's endgame? What did you guys think was gonna happen and and also in doing these appearances and going on Watch what happens live that again that speaks to hubris more than anything and cancel that appearance If you really give a shit about this relationship. I don't know why until you guys figure out what's going on like or When you decide to make this massive mistake Have a have a pow wow. Hey, let's sit down and share what do we do? Yeah, what do we do with this inevitably breaks because it's going to fucking break like that's the other part of it too is

38:44The timing like we have been sitting on this for a long time people have been coming up with rumors for a while Yeah, you can just kind of negate them for a little while But this past week it was hot and heavy This is your best plan is coming out with this weird ass joint statement that was probably written by AI You guys took your heart and soul into this one you couldn't have separate statements You couldn't say like it's very different for each person and you guys have the exact same statement So that's the only thing like and we've seen West under fire before the the reunion is gonna be an absolute shit show He's not gonna be able to answer. He's gonna stammer the whole time. He's gonna be sweating That's gonna be tough Amanda who the fuck knows exactly what she's gonna do and I touched on it later, but Again doesn't excuse anything the Kyle did during the marriage, but how the fuck does Kyle cook come out as the winner That's the funniest part of this whole thing. It's gotta be the funniest like it is it is objectively Incredibly funny that Kyle cook gets this at their and yeah, of course He's gonna be upset at the reunion because it is a fucked up situation for him It's more fucked up for Sierra than it is for Kyle which you know, you can't debate beyond that one

39:46But Kyle's gonna sit there at the reunion and at the end of it. He's like I won I get to go move down the Charleston George Sutter charm actually no, he doesn't this is still his goddamn show That's the only thing out We're moving we were changing the guard. We were moving into a different era of summer house He's gonna be in the city. We've got Amanda over there. Yeah, she's not gonna hang around too long We don't really know what oh Sierra is gonna do, but now she has Mia and if Mia stays on then she's got her friends She's good. She can move into the house and move forward with the rest of the crew Instead this whole thing breaks we don't know what what summer house looks like Time to call Kyle cook and bring him back Like that might be what we have to do at this point to just try to salvage anything because that's the other part of it And I know you know going back to vpr and in the best Honestly the best I guess comparison that I would come up with is more on the level of like jackson christened with Tom with watching drive and giving head That's closer to it because if there's no marriage. There's no house involved. There's all that shit

40:46But going back to vpr people are like well It's just be careful what you wish for you guys really wanted this to happen vpr fell apart vpr was falling apart before yeah that was just saved it for a season and a half and then it Again because it was gonna plummet regardless But summer house has nothing like we've been waiting the last three years have been tough We finally got to a point where we have a good crew and then you're gonna throw this unbelievably strong wrench into the mix It might die like you might have to fully recast every bus you really might like that's the crazy thing you know I think What you did do for in the city. I think you actually helped in the city Now the ratings for that will be a little bit more insane because people can be looking for Easter eggs Exactly, so I think that Actually helped But the fact that we are done filming this season of summer house. They're not picking up cameras. I assume They want to get reactions in real time at the reunion So that's why we're not picking up cameras would be my best guess but honestly They should pick up cameras for in the city if they're gonna go that route

41:47Like there's no point in doing it for summer house because you still haven't filmed the reunion This is obviously gonna be a three maybe before this might be the first four-part reunion that they have They might throw all the things out there. That's fine I don't mind if I'm gonna argue about that one But if you pick up cameras for in the city I mean Amanda's on that show Lindsey's on that show Kyle's on that show for Weston to the mix That would be somewhat interesting if I you have to get all parties to agree to it I don't think they have any say in the matter that would make way more sense to be because if you finish in the city Re-edit that thing to see what that man is looking like halfway through that season And then throw the new footage and at the end and just promise that the whole time people are gonna watch Exactly, you know, so it will bump the in the city ratings I don't know where we go from here as far as summer house like you just broke down. I don't see Because there's a lot of people saying the obvious where it's like well West and uh Weston Amanda are out and the rest go back to the house and You know we move on what live their life. Yeah, that's my point. It's like yeah to a certain extent

42:49I get it like that is the makings of a show sure But what does that look like? What does this show look like and I you know I'll just say it flat out like West did do a good job of changing the The dynamic in the summer house that we've gotten used to over the past three four years We're used to them hanging out at home half the crew goes out. We don't get to see him go out Not a whole lot happens house party whatever boring Over the past two years we got younger dudes in the house We've got some younger women in the house. They they've started to get a nightlife again You've got Bailey who's doing a great job in her first season got Mia who's killing it KJ's doing a great job You got Levi who were still crossing fingers can do something to stick around But you have turned this back into a fun house and West yeah Well, you guys want to admit it or not was a huge part of that So now we're removing that right you're removing Amanda who You know, she doesn't do a ton, but she is a centerpiece of the show. Oh, she's been going out a lot more. She's that's the fun

43:53Yeah, exactly and that's what's so funny because you want to break this whole thing down You know a Kyle verse West like then diagram Let's do go back to the conversations go back to the conversation where Kyle's just dumping on the rest of the guys in the house And West is sticking up for Amanda where he's talking about how she just gets high and she doesn't do anything She doesn't clean the house and they don't have sex anymore West made a comment He's like wait you guys don't have sex anymore and are they pointing at this point? Who the hell is this going on like There's so much to read into and the the big problem for me of course with moving forward with summer house even for this season Everything else just doesn't matter. I'm sorry, but like we're this is before the Tuesday night episode airs But we're looking forward a reward looking forward to seeing the fallout about KJ and Dara and how long the dara stay in the room with Ben And Bailey gets into the mix and Levi gets into the mix and there's a whole squabble That's what's going on right now We've also got Kyle and Amanda the fallout from that with Kyle's birthday. What's going to happen there? None of it matters literally none of it matters so the whole rest of the season's a wash

44:57Of course, they're going to go back into the lab and just try to edit and get as much out there about West at Amanda as they possibly can It's not really going to matter though like we're just going to be sitting and waiting until that reunion Because all of this is in the past and we're living in the current with the whole scandals So it's just going to be really tough to get through and every time and I'm looking from our perspective too What are we supposed to do? Are we supposed to recap this show is if this didn't happen? No I think how are we supposed to move forward this? Has anybody ever thought about us? That's my one question You get new a weird scandal like this and you screw over your friends and you're an absolute asshole What about us? What are we supposed to do? This is what happened at scandival I know then we had to recap like that at least happened during the season But we did have like I think there's three or four episodes before it happened or maybe more than that And then we got one episode of picking up cameras. It's like okay. I guess. Yeah, this is now current But we went through the whole season like what do we do? What are we supposed to talk about? We know what's happening My big question honestly as far as the remainder of the season goes is now knowing this and I know

46:02Despite popular belief I'm sure they do it here and there But Bravo really doesn't go back and edit as much as you guys probably think they do once they have it in the can It tends to be the final cut from what we've been told um But I am curious like are they going to in some of these later episodes if they have enough time in between be like okay time out Can we go back and find some moments? I think we're gonna see more than we would have If this hadn't dropped when it did so obviously, I mean the focal point watching these next few episodes is going to just be looking for clues Like I don't care if they're an KJ. They're still together. So I don't care what happened in that room That room's a bends a really chugger now. Yeah, so I don't care like they're fine, you know Whatever happened that room happened the Ben piece is gonna be interesting because we are gonna read more into Ben Was was he in love with Amanda was he trying to hook up with the man? It was their flirting there That's a different direction No, I know yeah, I I'm sorry, but like and look honestly

47:04That's good because we actually would be sitting here and I love KJ and it seems like he loves Darren We don't know enough about her But now we're not gonna be scrutinizing them. We're not gonna be looking at it like oh yeah like I last week We were sitting here like Bravo show the fucking footage and give me the timestamps show that Darren wasn't in there for a full hour Show that she didn't get changed in front of Ben. Please for the love of God. Just show us already I don't care if you show her or not. I don't know it doesn't matter or we're moving on. We've got bigger fish to fry We've got the biggest fish to fry. We've got the white whale if you will We got Captain Ahab just speared that fucker and now we got to talk about it like are we Captain Ahab because doesn't he die? Yeah, he doesn't make it So do that what you will do with that, but that's indicative wait a minute Captain Ahab is summer house Yeah, it's possible Yeah, I just yeah, like you said the rest of the season's just who the fuck knows what's gonna happen and obviously We're probably

48:04In less more incredible news breaks where we actually get a timeline This will be our little bottle episode where we talk about all of this the rest of our west in Amanda chatter We'll probably try to keep it in Yeah, we'll see oh yeah, yeah like on summer house. It's gonna be hard to deviate From this topic and you know what it is save time to talk about the current events of west in Amanda Yeah, definitely and well, you know if we see thing we'll try not to hone in on it too much if it's just a whatever seed and we're like oh But if we do see something we're like, oh that's that sketchy obviously we're we're gonna discuss it But we will try to keep it to our summer house recaps at the very least to try to contain this thing I am not confident God, I know we have to watch it live You know what that's good Yeah, I don't know I still don't know I agree I want to get to it, you know, I don't want to wait I don't want to sit and wait and then we have to talk I want to get right into the business, but

49:05Let's let's do one thing here before we move on Not that we're anywhere in particular, but I let's read the statement. Let's read it out Okay, so this is what they decided was a good idea to post Again, I think the funniest thing beyond everything else is She had a joint statement with her husband In January that was three months ago And now she's had to make another public announcement with another man Who dated her best friend Well, I just read I just read something really funny. I'm just gonna put it out there real quick Somebody said that Sierra unfollowed west in Amanda. We've now figured out that she blocked them But somebody quoted it and said it kind of makes sense how lazy Amanda is that she didn't even go outside to find a man Damn It's all warrants and it's great. Yeah, that's the thing like pull no punches here because they did this to themselves and that it is what it is

50:09All right, so just so everyone's up the speed. I'm sure you've all read this uh, but just in case Let's break this down From Amanda Patula and West Wilson We've seen the growing online speculations. So while this is still very new. We wanted to provide some clarity It was never our intention to purposely hide anything Given the complicated relationship dynamics involved in the scrutiny that comes with being on a reality show We needed a little space to process things privately before speaking on it We've shown up for each other as friends over the years through all the highs and lows and what's developed recently was the last thing Either of us expected our connection grew out of a genuine long-standing friendship Which made it especially important for us to approach this with care as out of here as our feelings evolved we wanted to take time to understand exactly what we were feeling We also recognized that this has had an impact beyond just us and never wanted our actions to cause any hurt Or be perceived as careless We truly appreciate the understanding and respect as we navigate this so real quick

51:16What did you approach with care? This reads like uh, hey guys We're in love, you know, so I know you're mad, but like we're in love They're too to apologize to anybody you don't apologize to Sierra to Kyle you didn't apologize to one-fucking person instead You're kind of on the defense in this. That's how I read this. I read this as defensive saying get off our back We love each other. No Let's play a game of um Who do you think's gonna be on who's team at the region Okay, who's gonna back. Let's just say who's gonna back Amanda and west Because I think it's I think Jesse. I don't don't Jesse posted today Jesse made a reaction post today same thing with though like go He's gonna be on their team. I think he's gonna be neutral. I don't think he's dumb enough to hitch his way I definitely That's the only one that's gonna be like a wild card in there like do we

52:17Then could honestly take middle one. Yeah, and be Yeah, he could say like well, you know, I saw how unhappy she was for so long Mm-hmm. So it kind of makes sense like West gave her something that Kyle didn't I could see that approach from Benjamin that wouldn't shock me Yeah I just I don't I don't know why but I just can't imagine the entire cast going against them I think they're gonna have one or two people defending them and Yeah, I'm weirdly in a weird way. I could see Kyle stepping in defending Amanda because he doesn't know any better And he's gonna do what he didn't watch what happens live Which I don't believe that he's like yeah, I want Amanda to be happy and everything with west even if it's with west I do think he's gonna like all right like you know what it's okay It's not that big of a deal just trying to make himself into a better person I really don't know what that reunion it's gonna look like it's gonna be an absolute nightmare But very interesting to watch for us of course. It's gonna be a total train wreck as far as your question

53:22I don't I'm taking the under I don't think anybody's going to come to their defects. I think there might be some people that Omit themselves from the conversation but I just Given how recent it was and how raw it's gonna be I don't they're filming in two weeks so Barring some drastic revelation coming out that like something that ever so slightly exonerates them in any way shape Reform which does not exist that's not out there waiting in the ether to like oh that won't make sense. So I don't I don't see the only person that be dumb enough would be Jesse you're right I just don't think he's that dumb or we'll find out very soon and then Ben yeah Those those are the only two question marks for me the ladies are obviously going to be on a Sierra side and rightfully so but it We'll probably get the questions here soon because I'm sure there's a lot of stuff there that we need to answer Yeah, try to answer, but I think my big question

54:22Well one first and foremost and I actually kind of hope he does this and I am not like Team Kyle now. This doesn't exonerate all of the stuff that he did over the years I think it's crazy that in that marriage where he was such a shitty husband for so long She's worse is kind of crazy but My my one thing that I really hope he does it would be really funny and potentially safe as business has come out with a flavor of lover boy to embody this moment Like something like next score Put something out and they put like a text message out saying and they redacted a name of something and they said they were going to put merch out Now that's the other piece that we didn't really talk about was do it Kyle going down to Charleston last week and you know Jesse's promoting a single and doing all that bullshit But Kyle was hanging out with all of them and then Austin put up an Instagram saying oh, I guess fucking your friend's exes is back in so

55:24People know people have known for less couple of days So it's not you know, I said this earlier that everybody kind of found out at the same time They probably found out the details and everything else at the same time And that's kind of what we've been getting in the last couple of days, but I don't I just don't know Where to go from here necessarily. I saw something that kind of like sparked my interest I was reading our questions really quick and we have no less than 500 questions in here Yeah, I got a figured this is gonna take a while to pick through them But I love the amount of people that still think it's a hoax That's one of my favorite things the April fools joke people like it's not April guys And then they're like well, it's April and Europe. It's like stop Yeah enough. No, just let it go guys. It's incredible. But yeah, somebody actually asked Do you think there's any merit to the Buffalo Wild Wings promo rumor? No, there's not this is did you see what they did What's that they posted a BWW

56:24You On their page and got so much shit that they took it down. Let me try to find it Unbelievable, but yeah, I saw it earlier. Let me try to find it. I could have easily been showed up photoshopped Um Hold on Buffalo Wild Wings Amanda West I'm sure they probably put it down here and I don't know here you go uh It was in the comments. Move your talking head lady Hold on she's talking over the come on dude You can see it behind her head Maybe I google it Fuck It's okay Well, I did find it but but her head's in the way if you see right here all right behind her They commented in response to somebody a a or a bw like yeah, we stand that because they did a joint promo together

57:28Yeah, for Buffalo Wild Wings, which is how the burners also on there too. Why not an hb Hannah burner Could not be happier right now She is elated Everything turned out to come up Hannah burner and her and pager about to do oh that's something I want to talk about real quick Then we get some questions um Her and pager doing a Scripted show I believe so she's getting a tv show and She gets validated more than anybody I think has been in a very long time So that's kind of crazy, but that's my question the page aspect Well, that was about page because my girlfriend was talking about this before we started recording So page and Hannah have never had a guest on their podcast And she's calling her shot she's saying first guest ever on their podcast would be Sierra talk about all of this in a safe space and put it all out there I wouldn't be surprised if that happens We've seen comments here and there pages been making comments Hannah put up a video earlier

58:31There was a little vague a little cryptic But she kind of shows where she is page put a comment and they're saying yep I guess we know where Hannah is on all of this that's funny So I don't know I mean I assume in some way she performed the two of them are gonna are gonna weigh in on this Whether it's alone or they have Sierra on their podcast who knows exactly what they're gonna do But it's gonna be interesting to see everybody now that the news is out that we're gonna have to see Everybody on their social is not posting reaction shots, but rather putting out their feelings saying exactly how they feel about what's going on That's gonna be a very interesting thing Yeah, and if we know anything about page she is Loyal as they come she's a staunch defender of her friends and I Have no question in my mind that she's team Sierra on this. Oh, yeah It's just gonna be very interesting to get her take because she's obviously so close to the manda as well and has been for so long That that episode of giggly squad is I'm gonna listen to that one that that's gonna be very interesting to get her perspective Is she gonna open up and go back in the vault a little bit be like well?

59:33You know there was a couple times where xyz happened where maybe not trust her. I don't know Like this Page is gonna look at a mandal like the friend killer like oh, okay So yeah, you kind of pulled me away from Hannah a little bit and then I had to you know that and obviously you can go back You can further and everything else that Amanda may have been doing and kind of getting in pages here So that'll be interesting to see what she says, but I the first two questions I want to address because they're kind of paired together Frimpi 30 and Marissa and Palma they asked Do you think Sierra should even show it the reunion and the Marissa asked do you think Amanda will bail on the reunion? They'll both be there. They will both 100% be there. I think Sierra you don't think Amanda's gonna be there I think if anyone doesn't show it's gonna oh Sierra will be there. I know that for them. She's gonna get support So I mean, that's yeah, it's gonna be a she's she's not a coward dude She would stay I know even if she was afraid to not have support she would show up for sure So I'm not worried about that if anyone's a no show on this is gonna be Amanda I don't think she's gonna do it. I think she'll show up

1:00:35But if anybody was to not show it would be Amanda in my yeah Just fan girl at all times asked also do you think that West will actually commit to a relationship now? No, probably not I I actually think that what's gonna happen is this is gonna fizzle out very quickly I think that they're not going neither of them are going to be able to take the backlash and they're not going to be able to stay together I'm curious how this affects everything You know like West just got this great job of a complex. He's killing it over there like how does this affect that like How does how does this affect Shina? Has anybody asked Shina? Is she okay? I can't believe she hasn't weighed in in a very weird and Overarking way where she's like I knew I was involved like he cheated on me too. What? Mm-hmm. What are you talking about? Yeah, just it's only a matter. She gonna write a book about it from Zero do you think they have to get married now so the public doesn't have their careers? Yeah, I mean that's what we're saying like I don't I

1:01:37How do they not think of that shit before this happens where it's like hey guys you realize gonna you Potentially could burn your career to the ground the fact that sand of all Figured out a way to worm his way back into the good graces of the public image is crazy There's no way Because West isn't as delusional as Tom sand of all that's what got Tom back up to where he's at currently to that traders appearance He was fucking funny Gantanayat house of villains. He's doing a great job on that. He worked his way back West doesn't have that in him and I know that And Speaking of like this Katie Melody why are people calling the scandal all this is nowhere near as bad. It's different But it is as bad. That's the thing that she like yes, it is there's I mean you're all cheating and everything else from it Yeah, there's just a lot of layers here like shooter said it's kind of like if scandival was based around

1:02:38The dody thing Dody jacks and sand if it was based around that but went the way that scandival went that would be an easier way to frame it But yes, this is as bad. It absolutely is Uh A lot of this we already covered of course Now I want to read the funny Tom ads. Rebecca Serpa. Do you think Sierra and Amanda could ever come back from this? No No She wouldn't give West a chance for three years that took until this season to be nice to him You think she's ever going to talk to Amanda again? Absolutely not She has morals like Sarah has strong principles and values. She's made that very clear through the year. So Fuck no, she's not going to talk to her No Jacqueline Michelle Cress jesse where you silent or silence that I mean that's a theory that you can float around for days if you want to The shorts there was Yeah, the shorts theory

1:03:39Sort of in a way again different, but Yeah, was he going after Sierra to kind of take the heat off of everything going on was it just the smoke screen There's I mean there's so many things to read into there. I don't think so. I think Jesse was just going for Sierra But West and Jesse are not nearly as close. I mean that's another thing you said I'll watch what happens live Andy kind of picked up on it and he asked them like how closer you and Jesse and he's like You know, it's well, he sees a friend. He's a friend. He basically said the same thing about Amanda Obviously, he said he was showing her the streets, but he did stammer for a little bit So him and Jesse are not that close I doubt that if this was secretly going on behind closed doors even before the Jesse would even know Yeah, I Compared to the shorts are called the shorts theory only because did he know not the him trying to hook up with Sierra It does bring up a lot of moments though when you think about Not just them, but you think about that night When they were playing spin the bottle and Kyle and Amanda smooched and then West

1:04:42That's when he decided to move his chair next to Sierra and that's when he said to Jesse I'll fuck you up or something. Yeah I think we know where that came from now That was not Sierra centric which is even more brutal because he used Sierra as a prop in that moment Yeah, now if you if you want a Schwartz of the situation, it's it's his friend Aiden That would be a short situation for everybody. Oh, yeah, Amanda and Aiden that so they're hooking up. That makes total sense They're holding the hands. Nope It's actually West's the whole time This is interesting Elizabeth Eliza Bell B Eliza Bell B or is it Elizabeth? Sorry, uh, I think it's Elizabeth B and if I said that wrong, I apologize Will West be an adult and take responsibility for his actions and words at the reunion? What kind of West are we going to see? No, I mean we've seen it before. I don't think that I think this is Somehow worse than what he did to Sierra So if we watch tell that when it's not going to go any better than that

1:05:45I think he's I think he's going to be quiet the whole time and he's going to Not really take any sort of responsibility I yeah, I don't know. I think it's going to be I I just don't even know like he handled those Somebody asked so early that I can't imagine Uh from Kittorra underscore a.m. Who do you think will be sat next to West and Amanda at the reunion? They should be at a sweetheart table if they're in love put them with a sweetheart right in the middle Yep right in the middle Yep Uh But but but Yeah, a lot of seating predictions for things like that which is kind of funny Oh I just love that it leaves the door open for stuff like this cat dog Did he get Amanda's permission to comment holy frick on Sierra's pic? He he that's a good one Oh, I like that. I agree with this like you know this situation would be

1:06:46Bad regardless, but from so many signs 9152 Why didn't they just come clean to Sierra and Kyle before the world? Yeah Now that's a great point great question. I mean that would have there's no way that this goes well in any way shape or form But that would have been the appropriate way to do it to sit them down and be adults about this in some way shape or form and say hey This is going to sting but we're together now and it's going to be public like that but again that shows you Where West and Amanda are at they don't care. They're being selfish. They're they're worried about their their own career Right now probably they're worried about their own image. They're worried about Everything that they're going to get back from this as far as backlash goes They're not worried about Sierra and that's very evident from that quote-unquote Joint statement at no point in there was it even not apologetic and that's where I'm starting to think Based on nothing else, but what we've gotten so far

1:07:47That that they feel maybe they don't own explanation like this just happened. We're both single like they may very well Take that route and completely disregard everyone's feelings And that's based on the fact that they've taken nobody's feelings into consideration up until this point So why would that suddenly click on at the reunion? Dude, I don't know Really don't it's funny too because a lot of people are just asking the same questions mostly timeline mostly You know was was West going after Sierra this summer a whole smoke screen. I think so into Amanda I think so I think he was 100% show-centric. They're pushing a storyline and protecting Yeah, and I do think that it's interesting now because yeah, maybe Maybe Jesse was fucking with West. Hey, can I make out with Sierra? You're fucking your bad like your your friends wife could I make out with your girl like Yeah, I don't know Brian Scott Patterson on a scale of I'm vomiting too. I'm vomiting and vomiting and having diarrhea

1:08:49Where are you on the West being a dirt bag scale? Vomiting while having diarrhea problem. I'm bent over on the toilet in a trash can I made one of those days Well been there. Yep, I need some gas station sushi wash it down with a natty ice and boof Yeah, yeah, you guys you guys all been there right? Yeah, everybody's been there Let's see. Let's see. I'm trying to get good one to like end on but it's all just keep reading some out while you search Lash 16 says Amanda has never been a girls girl. How long do we really think this has been going on She hasn't been a girls girl and that hasn't that's been a talking point here and there Uh, it's never been more evident than now. This is a good one. Uh, hi. My name is Sandy Will this save lover boy and Kyle's reputation this if they play this right It could if they do the Yeah, they can have boom. Yeah, they could have an absolute boom on merch

1:09:50I mean everything that I heard because last week we were going hard at lover boy saying that It would have been fine if he was just good to his wife, but Apparently, I believe you can't even really get lover boy in a lot of states And when you can get lover boy, it sucks or it's really expensive So it's not going to save the drink, but I mean you can just pivot's merch. Why not? Yeah, I mean shit Ariana and Katie made like six figures on merch when they drink up your stand of all Yeah Katie low. I think this started last summer to you guys. So that's my that's my thing now that just worms It's way into my brain. Okay, bear with me here crazy theory Let's take it back to the end of two years ago with Sierra Do you think is it possible that Amanda and West started at least something all the way back then That made West back off of Sierra and that was the driving force of why he was not ready to commit

1:10:54And gun to my head. No, but anything's possible Yeah, dude, I don't know But again, like I said earlier this it opens the door to those questions You can't really deny those questions immediately Let's see. Let me see if I can find a great one. I got nothing. So if you got one Um A lot of people asking about last summer Ryan Stoneman do you think Amanda's feelings for West last summer did Jesse know but but bad was been a decoy um Yeah, just one good one then and on and I'm not blaming anybody because everybody's got the same questions Yeah, no, I think it's all it's all valid All right, I can tie this one into this one and then we'll If I can find that one Damn you guys there's no shortage of questions. There's I know 100 in here Uh, all right, whatever. I'll just somebody else. Sorry that I can't find your name um Madison MC says and suddenly I've forgotten who Taylor Frankie Paul is which leads to the other one

1:11:57That I can't find who asked it. I'm still searching But they asked should Sierra be the bachelor at to which I say absolutely not She deserves much better than the bachelor. Yeah, I think like yeah, you could give her the area on a treatment where she's now hosting a big show You know, you fuck send her to love island like no have her team up with Ariana. I don't oh, yeah Okay, I thought you meant like as a good god. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, you know, a page made an appearance Like have Sierra over for like all stars and host that or something Give her a start somewhere and then give her the road map to just take off and Flip off both Amanda and West as she rides off into the sunset. That's what I want I want the full Ariana Maddox treatment. I want Sierra starting in a Broadway show even though she doesn't sing in dance I want I want the full treatment there. I want lover boy to sell tons of merch No, I'm not excusing Kyle's behavior by any means but fuck it like West and Amanda set the tone here West and Amanda are the villains and

1:13:01That's what that's gonna be the funny thing is to watch the cast Inevitably capitalize on this yeah as we saw with scatable and they're all gonna make a ton of money Yeah, it's gonna be interesting to watch but like I said we'll we'll be back tomorrow with our Summer house recap. We're probably gonna find out more shit. Yeah, I don't even know those thing and we're supposed to talk about pen and Dara Tomorrow the fuck That's that's gonna be like impossible. How are we how are we supposed to move on from this? I don't know I don't grab everything else. You know what? I know Rhode Island's supposed to be coming out this week The Valley's supposed to be coming out this week. Just push it. Yeah, bump everything a week. Give us all a breather Oh boy. Yeah, well. Yeah As you said, then we'll wrap this thing up The crazy thing is going to be that so much more is probably gonna come out Uh-huh so much more like I remember in scandable trunks We'll get some semblance because even like scandable I mean even after quote unquote all of the timeline came out

1:14:06We still had more questions. We were still there were still more answers and there's still more answers But they were yeah, yeah, so it's gonna be It's gonna be an interesting ride Everyone hydrate. Okay, make sure we're gonna go rest all right take a break from the screen after like two or three hours of Scrolling hug your loved ones. Yeah, hug a tree. You know just to feel like grounded outside Don't forget that there's a world. It's getting nice out. All right. Don't let this Suck you in for too long. It's already ruined multiple of my days, but hey here we are But uh, yeah That's all I got you got anything else. Nope That's our show uh, I guess we'll try to talk about summer house tomorrow. Probably we've got to go bye I Jesus Christ Oh, please not that music that music is me nightmares from my childhood could we get something a little bit lighter some lighter music here Are you a fan of true crime TV shows and what about unsolved mysteries the show that jump started all of our love of true crime

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