Emergency pod: NBA rules Clippers guilty of cap circumvention!

0:00The NBA has handed out their punishment to Kawaii Leonard in the Los Angeles Clippers. And boy, it's a doozy. We get into all of that right now. Today's episode of the Kevin O'Connor Show is presented by Game Time. The Game Time app has tickets to live events, sports, concerts, comedy, and more that turn into unforgettable nights. It's the NBA offseason, so I'm busy looking through concerts to hit up comedy shows this summer. I'm trying to fill up this NBA offseason as much as I possibly can before we get to opening night. And then during the season, you can use the Game Time app to find any seats you want on any single NBA game. And what I'm finding using the app is it's super simple and easy to use. And I like how they have a seat view where you have a panoramic view from the seat in the app before you buy. So get your friends together, get the tickets, and tell them it's Game Time. So download the Game Time app, create an account, and use code KOC for $20 off your first purchase.

1:00Terms do apply. Again, create an account, redeem code KOC for $20 off. Find live events on Game Time. Download the app today. Welcome back to the Kevin O'Connor Show. We got breaking news, everybody. We got the punishment for Kawaii Leonard. We know what's going to happen with him and Steve Balmer and the Los Angeles Clippers and boy, oh boy. Did the NBA ever drop the hammer on the Los Angeles Clippers? Five first round picks docked from the Clippers in 2029, 2030, 31, 32 and 33. That means the Clippers are ineligible to treat any first round draft picks until 2035. Actually, and there was already even eligible to be traded yet. A $30 million fine to team owner Steve Balmer and a one year ban. Suspensions for Balmer and Lawrence Frank and Gillian Zucker as part of the Lakers front office.

2:02Lawrence Frank suspended their general manager for six months. Kawaii Leonard, $700,000 fine is what he receives. His contract was not voided, which means the Clippers Toronto Raptors trade could still happen. I would imagine that was an increasing possibility as we'll talk about later that it will happen. And then Dennis Robertson, the uncle of Kawaii Leonard, Uncle Dennis is banned from all NBA business dealings for five years. Boy, boy. I mean, as you guys are joining in the live chat here as we react to this, it is hard to fathom that the NBA really dropped the hammer as hard as they did. But the evidence as I'm sure will learn was probably overwhelming. We don't know the details quite exactly about what the NBA learned, but we know through Pablo Torres reporting and the athletic among others who have been on top of this for the past calendar year. There's a lot of smoke. There's a lot of smoke with the Clippers and Kawaii Leonard and very clearly I'm sure the NBA through all of this must have found something a smoking gun to take away.

3:12Five first round draft picks five first and a $30 million fine and a one years of suspension for Steve Balmer. Pablo Torres vindicated indeed. He sure is. I I I'm just shocked. We finally actually got a result here that something actually happened and for the Clippers. Oh boy. Oh boy. Was it worth it? I don't think so. I don't think so. Kawaii Leonard remember the excitement of getting Kawaii and Paul George and trading away, Shiggyld, Salves, and her future NBA finals MVP two time regular season. Every he remember the excitement of that on that day when that happened. Boy, what's the total penalty for the Clippers to make this happen? How many picks did they give up with SBA five? So this is like 10 first round draft picks the Clippers gave up for, I don't know, not much excitement with Kawaii Leonard and a lot of misgames with Kawaii Leonard and Paul George getting out of there pretty quickly.

4:20Man, I just I feel for Clippers fans, man. I mean, look, like you did kind of choose this life. You kind of did. But as bad as you thought it might have been somehow it's gotten worse and I don't think it's going to be looking any better any time soon. Because there are some good looking draft glasses and 28 and 29 that now the Clippers are going to miss out on it's going to set back a rebuild. This isn't just a five year penalty for the Clippers. This could set them back for decades. That's what this could do with this punishment of the NBA levied out against the Los Angeles Clippers. I'm just an utter shock that the league actually did this. I'm sure we're going to learn a lot more specifics about what was learned in this investigation. I'd love to understand as well that ESPN report from a few weeks ago that kind of indicated or suggested that the Clippers might get off a little bit easy here that they're negotiating with Steve Balmer. This doesn't seem like a negotiation. That's for sure. This doesn't even feel a little bit like a negotiation with Balmer and the NBA.

5:22Did that ever actually happen? The NBA, of course, after the ESPN report came out and said there's so many falsehoods in this report. We'll release the results when we haven't. Maybe there's never any negotiating between Balmer and the NBA. I'll tell you what, the Clippers, obviously, Hammer dropped on them. They are screwed or Clippers fans. You might as well choose a new team at this point. You get that new arena, which is too loud, too much going on, by the way, just being honest. Now you have a crappy basketball team with no future. Worst future in the league in the NBA after this suspension. Number 30 out of 30 in terms of future rankings for Clippers fans. And for Kauai Leonard, he gets off kind of easy. $700,000, obviously $700,000 you'd rather have than not if you're Kauai Leonard. But only 700K down. Maybe that's a little bit of payback for some of your no show with aspiration or the other no show sponsorships that you didn't have to do anything for.

6:27But that's not bad. Only 700K for Kauai Leonard. And now he's still eligible to be traded. He could still go to the Toronto Raptors. I'm sure that report might be coming in days, perhaps. The Clippers and Raptors trade assuming the Clippers still want to do it. Assuming the Raptors still want to do it. I don't know why things would change there. I would imagine a Raptors fans should be feeling really excited right now that Kauai Leonard's contract was not voided that he has not suspended not even for a game. Not even a one game suspension for Kauai Leonard. Instead what the NBA found at least with their punishments they levied out here is at least indicates that Uncle Dennis Robertson was the guy at fault here and that Kauai Leonard perhaps didn't have a lot to do with it. Maybe this was all Uncle Dennis. And because if you remember years back when Kauai was pushing his way out of San Antonio there's so much stuff at the time about this Uncle Dennis character. Uncle Dennis wants this. Uncle Dennis wants that. And then he goes to Toronto. Uncle Dennis isn't happy about this.

7:27Uncle Dennis isn't happy about that. He's leaving Toronto. Uncle Dennis demanded this. Uncle Dennis demanded that. Maybe it was Uncle Dennis the whole time. After all he is the one who set up the KL2 LLCs all the time. Maybe it was all him. Maybe Kauai Leonard had some idea about it. Maybe this is a show a little tiny type of situation where maybe he actually didn't do it. No anything about it. Wink wink. I don't know there. But the fact is that with Kauai Leonard getting $700,000 fine and that's it. Congratulations Raptors fans. Seriously. Congratulations. Congrats to Raptors fans. Congrats to Kauai Leonard. You guys are going to be contenders in the east assuming this deal gets through. The Kauai Leonard released a statement as well saying integrity and respect. I'm not even going to try to do a Kauai Leonard impression. That's the laugh. That's all I'll give you. But Kauai said integrity and respect for this game are fundamental to who I am.

8:30I accept full responsibility for lapses and judgment by people within my inner circle and regret the distraction. The situation has caused the fans in my family. That line right there for lapses and judgment by people within my inner circle. He's saying, that is all in wilderness. I entered into my contract with the clippers as well as the agreements and question in good faith fully committed to fulfilling my obligations with no knowledge of any intent on anyone's part to circumvent the salary cap for 15 years. My priority has been giving everything to my family, the game and those I share the court with as I return to Toronto. I am focused on what I can control, closing this chapter and moving forward with a clean slate. He's got to let out the laugh when he has his presser with the raptors. Now he's going on this little press tour at this point. He's putting his face out there. Give us the laugh, Kauai.

9:30Give us the laugh. I mean, good for Kauai. Getting off easy. Going to the live YouTube chat. Thank you guys for joining live on YouTube to partake in this breaking news. Alex, obletory is the goat. Boba Trooper, raptors top four in the east of the Kauai trade. I think top four top five for Toronto in the Eastern Conference. Kauai Leonard going to Toronto. He just like think about what we're so good about the raptors last year. They had elite defense. They had a Scotty Barnes taking a leap and they had culinary boils becoming the closest thing we've seen to Dremont Green but with a little bit more of a sprinkle on offense and different guys, different guys you can defend in the perimeter. But over they missing isolation scoring, end of clock creation, reliable shooting off the dribble. What does Kauai Leonard do better than most players in the world? All of those things. And he doesn't ruin their identity and the defensive end of the floor. Kauai aids the defensive identity and solves some of their flaws.

10:33So for Kauai Leonard, joining the Toronto Raptors, indeed, if Scotty Barnes continues ascending in culinary boils into Kobe Walter, all these guys, these young, really youthful, promising young players on the raptors. If Kauai stays healthy, boy, boy, they're going to be good. GM, GM Balo said Kauai should be suspended for a year too. Maybe, I mean, maybe the NBA swept something under the rug but until we see the evidence, I have a hard time believing that because I think as I said earlier with Uncle Dennis Robertson, everything that's been reported about Kauai over the last six, however long it's been since he left San Antonio. Seven years now, it's 2019, seven years now, or has 2018. So it was eight years ago now. He left San Antonio for Toronto. All that time it's been a lot of Uncle Dennis Robertson. I'm sure Kauai Leonard had some knowledge of this stuff but clearly the NBA didn't find enough evidence to suspend him for a year.

11:36Five first round picks with a clippers makes it seem like to me. This was the clippers and this was Uncle Dennis Robertson, period and a story. Asplanes at the perimeter D and Toronto will be good. Marlin clippers, sorry, asplanes also continued, the perimeter D and Toronto will be good. The rim D questionable, yes, that there's two flaws with the wrappers. It's one, Yaka Pertal the center, and two, and Maniole, quickly the smallest guard in the team, the point guard. The most of those areas can be upgraded, especially Pertal in particular. That's the guy I'd be looking to upgrade. Marlin said clippers banished to the netto realm. Damn. Yeah, that's for sure. Yes, he did. I mean, I see a lot of people saying, Kauai got away with it. Maybe he did. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I'm not anything any of us know. But ultimately, the punishment is pretty harsh.

12:39Five first round picks and a five year suspension for Uncle Dennis Robertson, that at least indicates that the NBA found something against those guys. Did OKC own any of those picks? No, Evan. The clippers owned all of those picks that they have lost. So let's just make this clear here. All of the clippers picks in 20, 20, 9, 30, 31, 32, and 33. That's five first round draft picks. The clippers owned all of those. Now they don't anymore. And now they're all gone. They don't have any of them. They've been stripped of those picks. Just unbelievable. That this is actually what happened. I'm just pulling up the NBA PRs release to make sure I didn't miss anything here. But as far as I remember, I think, you know, I listed out all of the, OK, the NBA, they

13:40don't really have like anything new, no statement or anything like that. So I'm sure they're going to let the dust settle. And then we're going to learn more in the coming days about what had happened. One thing Adam Silver did say at the end of the press release was the NBA's collectively bargain system for determining player compensation is a fundamental component of the basketball competition that the league oversees for the benefit of the team and players and ultimately the fans. I am deeply disappointed by the flagrant violation of our rules by the clippers institutional and leadership failures that led to this misconduct. The severity of the penalties reflects the seriousness of the violations. So the Adam Silver, that's what he had to say in a statement at the end of what the NBA released, which was the five first round picks, $30 million in fine one year suspension for Steve Balmer, six months suspension for General Manager Lawrence Fank, one year

14:41suspension for business, president of business ops, Gillian Zucker, as well as the clippers being subject to compliance in a monitoring program. Boy, overseeing for five years. I mean, maybe they should have been doing that already after Beyondred Jordan when they got a slap on the wrist for that, but that's neither here nor there. Also $700,000 suspension, $700,000 fine for Kauai Leonard and Mr. Robertson, Uncle Dennis Robertson, banned from conducting business or otherwise engaging with NBA teams and their affiliates on behalf of or with respect to any player employee or league or team personnel. That's thorough or a period of five years. Mine is all banned for life is quite even going to still be playing in five years. I won't be what will he be in that 40 years old. JT blouse said what happens to the picks? Will the first round be 39 picks? Yes. The first round will be 29 picks or it'll be 31 if we expand one team lost Vegas or 31 if

15:42we expand two teams lost Vegas and Seattle. So the first round will only be 29 picks for now and the rest of the draft will be 59 picks total, including the second round. Will any details of this investigation come out? Ask Will to the. We'll see. I would imagine stuff is going to trickle out. Stuff is going to leak out. It's just a matter of what and when what calls are made, what the league wants out, what the clippers want out, what Kauai wants out. God of God's 1995. This is a very good question. Should the clippers trade Garland for future picks? This is not something we've hit on yet during our conversation yet and that brings up a great point. The clippers are without their first round picks 29 through 2033. Now what? This is the hand you've been dealt. These are the circumstances you're facing.

16:43It sucks if you're a clippers fan. You probably don't even want to watch anymore. So if you're the front office, what do you do? Do you trade away some guys and strip things down even more and try to get back some picks from other teams? Is that what you should try to do? I would lean yes. I do think I want to have some draft capital in those years and ultimately like Darius Garland is he changing my fortunes this year? No. Of course he's not. Of course he's not. But the thing is, what's Darius Garland getting you? How many teams need a point guard? How many teams want a point guard that small? I think for the clippers, you're being in a situation where maybe maybe you're not getting that much back for some of those guys and ultimately I think you might have the idea of trading away some of these veteran or proven players but it just doesn't change

17:43the fact that this team doesn't necessarily have a lot of pieces that are going to be value to other, valuable to other teams. So like I'm just pulling up their roster right now just to go up and down the clippers team right now. Obviously they're going to be getting back Brandon Ingram and Grady Dick in return for Kawai Leonard with some picks. So they're going to get something back for Kawai. Do you want to keep that rolling? Do you want to keep that going by trading away other guys? I think Darius Garland without a doubt is the place I would look to. Max Truce, I think he could get you a first round pick. He would have some value I would think. You know, you just signed Rui Hachemur or not trading him Derek Jones Jr. He's not going to get you much, much at all. Brooke Lopez, he's 38, not going to get you much. Isaiah Jackson, Bradley Beale, Chris Dunn, Jordan Miller. I mean, like these guys aren't worth anything. So it was really Darius Garland Max Truce and that's about it. So I think for the clippers, they're in a position now. They have so few assets besides what they gave up. Besides what they're getting back from Toronto for Kawai Leonard, this team is just, boy,

18:50they're in a tough spot. Boy, this sucks for the clippers fans. I'm sorry, clippers fans, but hey, it's the second time in the ballman era that he's gotten in trouble for caps or convention. He did it with the Andre Jordan. He did it to a greater extreme of Kawai Leonard. Yeah, it's ridiculous. So ridiculous. Bean Town Nike said to pick the Celtics got in the Jalen Brown trade is looking pretty pretty pretty pretty good right now. Yes, it is. It is looking pretty good. So for Boston, getting that trade that's swappable, 2029 first round pick, that's the one you're referring to in the Jalen Brown deal, looking pretty good. And that's something to note as well. Like what are the ripple effects of this? Oh boy, good for Boston. Good for the Lakers. There's going to be the total dominant team in Los Angeles for the foreseeable future.

19:53Good for Toronto. I mean, obviously it's good for all 29 other teams. But ultimately, boy, I just feel for Clippers fans. Man, I already did feel for Clippers fans. Sometimes let's just be totally honest. If you meet me and I always like to ask who are you a fan of? I met someone in the airport on the way to Amin Austin, Texas right now. That's why I'm in my hotel room. And I met a guy in the airport, this guy Ben and he said he's a Grizzlies fan. And you tell me you're a Grizzlies fan of my first thought as Chris Vernon. You must have known Chris Vernon a long time now. He's like, yeah, listen to Chris Vernon multiple times a week as long as I can remember. And as a Grizzlies fan, you had the the grit and grind Grizzlies. You had good times. And right now, right now today, you're in a position with one of the brightest futures in the league as an effort for Christmas fans. So I hear that and I feel good for you. When some people introduce themselves to me as a Clippers fan or a net fan, I'm like, boy, you haven't experienced much. At least Clippers fans had lob city with Chris Paul and Blake Griffin and DeAndre Jordan,

20:59but other than that, just made a poor choice. Choosing the Clippers over the Lakers. And I know some families, I guess there's families, families of Clippers fans. But boy, cool. Might be time to choose a new team. Just being real might be a good time. You get it out. If you want to choose a new team, you get it out two days right now. Now's the moment. Nobody's going to fault you if you start rooting for the Lakers. Not to be big market, coastal elite media type, but it's just true. I just can't imagine being a Clippers fan right now. How could you be happy? How could you how could you feel any joy in this team? Have you ever Clippers fan in the chat? There might be two of you. Tell me like, how do you feel happy? I don't know.

21:59I don't know. Taking the team. Nobody's going to fault you for real. No first drum picks for five years in owner that's cheated twice in his decade since taking over. Boy. Okay, a King's band. Big drip says in the live YouTube chat. King's fan has entered the chat. Yeah, it's not the only team where you can feel that way about, but King's fans, King's fans like are amazing. That's the thing. King's fans are incredible. They are so passionate. They show up for their team. They're loud. They're crazy. And you go to King's games and you feel that love. You feel that enthusiasm. You feel that. You go to Clippers games. No disrespect. They're paid actors. Those Clippers fans at the wall, they're paid actors. And there's just such a, it feels like a funeral at Clipper games compared to Laker games. You go to fans of team, to go to arenas with small market teams is passionate fans and

23:03there's energy. It's not like that in Los Angeles at the Clippers games. Not even at the New Arena with their paid actors at the wall. So I feel for Clippers fans. I don't want to go on too long about that. I just feel for you if you are a Clippers fan. I asked for Clippers fans in the chat. We have almost a thousand people in the chat right now. Not a single one of you has raised your hand wearing a dunce cap. Say I'm a Clippers fan. Not a single person. I'm sorry. I'm piling on now. I'm sorry. But not a single person with almost a thousand of you in here has said your Clippers fan. That's hard to believe. But it says a lot. It says a lot. The Clippers just got a heavy find the biggest NBA history and there's not one of you in the live YouTube chat saying you're a Clippers fan. It says a lot paid actors like I said. Anything else we want to talk about?

24:03Anything else chat? Anything else that comes to mind in the NBA right now? Oh, we got one. I'm a Clippers fan. I'm a Clippers fan. I'm a PIST. Oh, here we go. Come out of the shadows. Skidude. Clippers fan here. Very sad. I'm a Clippers fan. That's why I'm here for support. I'm sorry. I'm not being very supportive. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Okenna. Okenna. Okenna. Baduah. Sorry if I'm puttering that. I definitely am. I'm a Clippers fan. Yeah. I mean. So there's something you're three out of 980. Not bad. I'm sorry, guys. I'm sorry. Billy Bob Joe. I mean, maybe people said it earlier, but I didn't see it there. Good chaos. I live in Sack. Not a King's fan myself. But if they even have a sliver of a chance to play on the fans, we'll show up loudly. It's the truth. It's the truth. Chris, you're right. You're right.

25:04Analytically speaking, the Cavaliers actually won the NBA Finals. Billy Bob Joe says Paul Marcell, sell Clippers to Mark Walters. That's not going to happen. Mark Walters got his own legal stuff to deal with right now. Peace for fans. Clippers fans are pretty quiet about the Zubach trade right now. Actually, at a conversation with somebody earlier today, they said, I don't know about the Zubachs on the pastures. I don't know. My old Turner had the perfect skill set for Tyree's Halibur. And I just agree with them. As I've talked about on the podcast, as I did recently with the NBA entertainment rankings that we're doing, I like the Zubachs fit. But the his point was that the spacing Turner provided was so it was so critical to their pace and space style and Zubachs. Doesn't run up and down the floors quickly that he changes things. So I don't know there. Beck Koc, when will you be back with Foresburg?

26:05Hopefully soon. I love talking basketball with Chris Foresburg over at NBC Sports Boss. I love talking Celtics with him. He's one of my favorite people in sports media. And yeah, hopefully, hopefully Foresburg or NBC Sports Boss. And we'll be having back soon to talk Celtics. I'm sure that we'll be able to talk about the Zubachs. I'm sure one's basketball season starts back up. I'll be I'll be in there at the studio and the NBC Sports Boss. And more often. Philly voice reporting that the 29th Swap Rites are still live. That is true. Letting Mathron walk seems much worse now said. Oh, yeah. He's a heavy Peggy Hill. Yes, that definitely does seem like a poor decision for them to get rid of a young guy for Old Man Bradley. Are you kidding me? Ridiculously dumb. The game they gamble their pick with a 50% chance to lose it. They did lose it. They sure did lose it. A explain. Does this punishment? Yes, Darth Jimmy. We talked a little bit about that earlier. Does this punishment have to be factored into the cost of the original Paul George trade?

27:05Yeah, 10 first round draft takes us what they gave up in a future two time MVP. Adler, Adler brings up something that I was thinking about earlier. And I just, I'm like hesitant to say it because I just, I never want to like say a team should move or anything. But Adler, Fossin said in the chat, Clippers need to rebrand completely, move to Vegas and forget the Clippers River team. Are you wrong? I mean, Balmer probably should have moved the team to Seattle in the first place. You know, it's probably what he should have done the first place. So, Shamsharani, we have a little bit of new news here. Shamsharani had just posted on X statement from the Clippers. We vehemently reject the NBA's findings, which are the result of a heavily biased investigation seeking to justify a predetermined narrative rather than facts and evidence.

28:09What the league told us privately differs from what it announced today publicly. And they have not held themselves close to the standard commissioner silver set at the start of the investigation to ensure its fairness and accuracy. For the past year, we cooperated fully in in good faith and we will now fight just as hard to demonstrate our innocence. We intend to vigorously challenge these findings and penalties through every avenue available to us and look forward to an ethical and impartial arbitration process. Steve Balmer, one of the 10 richest men in the world, the owner of the Los Angeles Clippers, already saying we intend to vigorously challenge these findings and penalties through every avenue available to us. And look forward to an ethical and impartial arbitration process. All that to say, this is not over yet.

29:10This isn't over yet. What are we going to get next? We're going to get the NBA leaking or reporters digging into depending on how you want to look at it. News and insights on what exactly they found. We're going to get the Clippers leaking more of what they want people to know about what the NBA said to them because again in that statement, the Clippers said in this statement, what the league told us privately differs from what it announced today publicly. The league didn't have to tell you everything privately that they were going to announce publicly. They might have been telling you certain things privately. They might have had ulterior motives in terms of why they were talking to you privately. Those quote unquote negotiations that the Clippers of course leaked out to ESPN in that story a few weeks ago trying to make it out to be like, we're going to get off easy.

30:29I remember on my podcast that day, reacting to it, I was like, well, if this is true, it seems like they're going to get off easy. Obviously, it wasn't true. The NBA statement turned out to be, hey, this shouldn't be out there anyway. We get a lot more stuff out there. And they did based on what they announced today publicly. I don't really care too much for the Clippers saying that I don't think it matters what the Clippers said to the what the NBA said to the Clippers public privately. I don't think it makes a difference what the NBA said to the Clippers privately. What matters is the truth. And clearly by docking the Clippers five first round picks and finding them $30 million and suspending the 10th one of top 10 richest guys in the world. For a year, the owner who sits court side at games, Balmer is one of the most passionate owners, most invested owners in the league. And for the NBA to suspend that guy, that rich guy who sits court side and actually cares about the team, he cares enough to cheat allegedly.

31:41They chose still to give this guy the harshest suspension and fine in the history of basketball. That says to me that the NBA feels good about what the investigation found, even if they weren't telling the Clippers whatever it was privately. I think that the NBA probably has some type of smoking gun here to go as far as they did. Because I think this past year, what has it been? Oh, the NBA is going to be afraid of Balmer because he's so rich and he could sue them into oblivion. Maybe they would have been if there wasn't a smoking gun or there wasn't strong evidence. Maybe the NBA would have let him off easy with a one month suspension and one second round pick docked from them. They didn't have anything good, anything of substance, but the fact they went this far, five first one year suspension, $30 million, six months for Lawrence, Frank, I mean, damn. What are they sitting on that we're going to find out it's 426 Central time here in Austin, Texas. What's it going to be?

32:53I'm going to get a little bit more out more in the live chat here. Daniel said KOC referred to Leonard's agent statement. He threw the Clippers under the bus. Well, let's see I'm searching for Dennis Robertson statement. I have not seen that yet. If it exists, if you guys have a link and the okay, I see Harrison gains his current agent. Okay. No, no, I'm not seeing that. I'm not seeing. If you guys have a link to that, I'd love to see it in the live chat, but I'm not seeing a statement from from Kawai's agent or or Dennis Roberts in this former agent. I'm not seeing that at all. Yes, I owe the set in the chat. And I think this is true in the NBA PR statement that said for providing false and misleading statements to investigators. That is something that they put in what Gillian Zucker said Clippers, president of basketball operations, Gillian Zucker is suspended without pay for one year for being primarily and directly culpable for the impermissible endorsement arrangements and for providing false and misleading.

34:10So that's what we get. Yes, Skadood, how does the lottery work with the Clippers not having a pick? We're going to find out. The lottery is going to be really complicated. Put it this way. If the Clippers don't have their pick, right? Those odds are just removed from the equation. If the Clippers are, it doesn't matter this year, just to be clear, it does. The Clippers Perk is first on pick is already going out going to the Thunder. So this year, it doesn't matter, but come 2029 if the Clippers are in the lottery, it'll only be 15 teams in the lottery instead of 16 teams. So those odds will be redistributed throughout the lottery. That's how it's going to end up working. Yeah, I did read the Harrison, the Kalei statement through Harrison gains earlier and the Kalei absolutely did did throw Uncle Dennis Roberts and in the Clippers under the bus. That's for sure. Without a doubt, he absolutely did that without a doubt.

35:19Guys, I mean, I don't know what else there is to say. We got all the news today so far. We hit it all. Clippers angle, Raptors angle, the Kalei angle. We're going to learn more. I'm sure I'll be live again sometime this week, maybe here in Austin, Texas. I'll be live. I mean, I brought my mic. I said on my Monday podcast. I'm bringing my podcast equipment just in case there's breaking news. I'm not taking vacation days in cases breaking news. I said that on Monday and I didn't know this was coming. I thought maybe we get Jalen Dern. I didn't think we get coiled entered. But boy, oh boy, I'm glad I was available to talk with you guys. But last thing, super chat from Darth Jimmy. Thank you, dark Jimmy for the super chat. I wonder if the Clippers will consider trading Tai Lu to acquire picks to hang off this step. Wow. Listing all the assets earlier that I did. I didn't even mention Tai Lu. You're right. They could try to trade called Tai Lu. It's not a bad idea actually.

36:27But guys, Mount Cili, why am I in Austin? I am here in Austin. It's very on brand. I'm here because on Thursday, Tesla is unveiling their cyber cab, which is their vehicle with no steering wheel and no pedals. It is their Robo taxi. It's like their version of a WAMO, their driverless vehicle. So they're unveiling that on Thursday night here in Austin, Texas. And I am beyond fired up to be there at that event. I'm beyond thankful that Tesla invited me to go there. So yeah, I'll be there on Thursday night for the cyber cab on Ville. I don't know what they're going to do, but it's going to be pretty sick. I did my first Robo taxi ride earlier today here in Texas. And it's awesome. It was great. But yeah, that's what I'm here for an offside earlier today. I had a. I got Terry blacks. I got Terry blacks for the first time here in Austin, Texas. I treated myself. I lost 30 pounds. It feels like a little bit over reward. I got more time more to wait to lose. But I got some of that beef beef rib. Oh my God.

37:34Oh, just unbelievable. I mean, the brisket's good. But brisket's brisket. But that beef rib here. I thought the turkey was really good to that beef rib was just to die for. Unbelievable. Absolutely unbelievable. And I'll be going out to dinner right after I sign off here, which is going to be in a couple of seconds here. So thank you guys for joining here on the live YouTube stream. Hit the like button if you haven't already. Please subscribe to Yahoo Sports NBA because as much as cool content as we already have here on this channel, we got a lot more plant coming this NBA season. I'm doing my whole pod still twice a week all summer long. So that's here on Yahoo NBA as well. Subscribe to the Kevin O'Connor show wherever you get your shows. Spotify, Apple, a five star rating will help us out a lot on Apple. We could use them there. So thank you for joining us live here with this emergency podcast. I got Sam Amick on the show talking about some other teams around the NBA and the Jail and Durham stuff that's coming out on Thursday. But boy, Clyde Leonard likely going to the Toronto Raptors not officially yet.

38:38Clippers down five first round draft picks, Balmer, see you later for a year. But we're going to learn more. Thank you guys for watching us live. Thank you to Madison and Sarah and the team for producing us live. Talk to you again later this week. Have a good day.