Emergency Pod: Commanders Sign K'Lavon Chaisson, Chig Okonkwo & Nick Cross

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2:04could make up to 12 million this season in Washington. Safety Nick Cross, the speedy young 24 year old safety who started all 34 games for the Colts over the last two years signed to come home. This is a former die hard redskins fan growing up. There's a lot of tweets to prove it where it was complaining about the team losing football games. He's been outstanding as a run stuffing safety if there's such a thing. Playing around the box, flying around, got Logan's thoughts on him, and then the belly of the ball in free agency to this point in terms of weaponry. Chica Conqueau, who you guys know Logan's been very high on. We've been talking about as a primary target on Take Command for a couple of weeks now. Adam Peters lands the plane a three year deal with the Conqueau. For less money than we were expecting to $10 million per year. But I got Logan's thoughts on each of those three players with my co-host Danny Ruyet on Grant and Danny just after the news had come down. So your special emergency take command that conversation.

3:07Let's start it right now. Logan Paulson is with us to break down a busy day of moves. Adam Peters was cooking today. Logan, what's up? How are you? I'm good, man. I'm excited. We got some offensive playmakers in the building, which is always good. Absolutely, sir. Seven new faces now, six defensive players signed, five new starters on that side of the ball. And of course, on offense, a legitimate weapon in Chica Conqueau. So let's kind of go and order here the day that was. We'll start with Caleb on chase on the edge from the New England Patriots. You watched the tape on chase on. What'd you see? Yeah, man. I was a little surprised, but I saw a face on. I feel like I've been saying that about a lot of guys because these guys have different reputations and different kind of legacies around the league. And so when I watched chase and I was expecting kind of a pure pass rush specialist, the guy that didn't play every down was kind of a rotational piece. And he is that for sure. But I thought that's incredibly competitive. I think he's tough. I think he wants it. Again, a little bit undersized for like your traditional four down end. Kind of has that like I have no bones in my upper body type build where I can kind of duck under punches, skate punches from the offensive lineman.

4:10I've got good length in my hands. And so obviously a good pass rusher, but I thought because of the length, a little bit more competitive against the run. And a little bit of a splash player, you know, in terms of like, hey, I'm going to kind of take my shot, try to penetrate, go for TFL, things like that. But I was pleasantly surprised with him. And again, I think the contract, the one year 12 million bucks of the reported contract, kind of makes me think like, oh, like this is going to be kind of your, you know, Von Miller, your Dante Fowler kind of designated pass rusher. When you need the fastball, you got a guy who can do it. I think he does a great job with ETS, T.E. stunts and games in the front. So I think a very exciting piece because of the talent, because of the production last year. But a guy that I think is more than maybe kind of his reputation would be for a lot of people in the NFL. And you touched on a logo, but that's what I wanted to ask you about. How do you see him fitting in with Torch Armstrong? Do you church wise? And then maybe a Daffa O.A. opposite? Is it kind of, as you said, it's okay, it's third and seventh. So he trots on to the field or how do you see him being deployed maybe with the other guys too?

5:11Yeah, I think that's the thing that's going to be so fun about this whole process with Dante Jones taking the helm. When we talked about a little bit on take command, like Grant Nine, in terms of like, are they going to be a three, four base? If you are going to be a three, four base, does he play true kind of stand-up outside lineback grease? Kind of the prototype for that in terms of like dropping into coverage, playing the run, rushing the pass from there. But I think like you said, on fourth down, I think getting a guy with his skill set, getting him next to a Daffa O.A., getting him next to Dorrance, getting him next to Doron Payne, letting those four players work together, is going to be a really fun thing. And then if you think about like the way this scheme works, is you want flexible pieces. So guys that can drop into coverage as well. And I think about all the players in Minnesota and their ability to rush and drop. And Case On brings a little bit of that flexibility in probably more flexibility than a Daffa O.A., a Daffa O.A. can do it. I did a breakdown for Command Center earlier this week, which airs tomorrow, talking about his ability to drop. They didn't ask him to do it a ton in L.A., but he can do it. So like maybe Von Case On becomes that guy that can kind of drop into coverage,

6:15be a little bit more flexible in those zero looks, in those all out, in those pressure packages that became so notorious in Minnesota. Again, for that defense. You guys are listening to an emergency episode of Take Command. This conversation was Logan on with myself and Danny Ruyet on Grant and Danny on 106-7, the fan. It's funny. We talked about the Brian Flora's defense all year long just as a pod, because we were kind of loving what he was doing. I remember four or five weeks into the season after watching a Vikings game coming in, and we were just chopping it up. And then prepping for and after they blanked Washington. It was kind of like, oh my god, this game is so fun. You know, and you did a deep dive. I can't help but lick my lips and salivate about some of these new additions. Now Logan, O.A., you know, Chase On on either side. When you get Armstrong back to full strength, he was leading the league in pressures and sacks, a little bit before he got hurt. Last year, Leo Chenol coming from the A gap as a linebacker and Luvu maybe coming downhill, running some of those games. Like, I don't know if it's going to be the Vikings scheme exactly,

7:18but in a world where they're running that every down is third down, Brian Flora's thing, where everybody's standing up and you don't know who's coming. Like, man, does that start to excite me a little bit with some of the speed they're getting off the edge? No, I think that's right. I think, I'm really glad you mentioned Leo Chenol because I think he's maybe the kind of unhaireded gear in this machine that will be the, you know, the DRONPTA Jones version of Minnesota. Because I look at, again, the guys that kind of made that thing kick. And again, everyone knows the edge players there and how dynamic they were. But it's really the linebackers, the interior players and their ability to run games with power, speed, and dexterity. And so when you look at Chenol, we talked about it a little bit on take command in our emergency pod last night, but like his ability to pick a guard, get his hands on a guard's chest and kind of push back. And I think about him and Frankie working games or him in a Daffa OA working games together and all of a sudden this thing starts to come to life. Because if he comes positionless football, you get guys that can drop into coverage, you get guys that can match with backs, but you get guys that can be offensive linemen

8:20because you've brought in all these kind of unconventional body types. And I know we're kind of playing the what if game. But when we're projecting Leo Chenol in this defense, like he's maybe the most exciting piece, especially for the bank for the buck. So again, I love OA, I love what he did in LA last year, like really fantastic plug and supplies getting on the film. But in terms of flexibility for the defense, flexibility for the scheme, I think Leo Chenol is the guy that we've kind of should circle here in red pen and be like, let's keep an eye on this one. So what else can he do? It seemed like that's, versatility was the name of the game. We've talked to a couple of people and just my rudimentary, you know, watching and kind of understanding of them. There's no one stat logo that jumps out. It's not like he's a 150 tackle guy. I didn't have like seven interceptions. It didn't break up every screen pass like Van Ginkle does. But it seems like you could put him anywhere and you're almost pretty much just fine. I guess what else can he do and how would that be maximized here in this game in your view? Well, I think with him, it's all about the projection. You know, so I go through and I think I watched like over 300 clips of Leo Chenol yesterday. And one of the things that came to the forefront is like, man, he is excellent at games,

9:22but they didn't ask him to do a lot of it. Oh, he's really good blitzer, but they didn't ask him to do a lot of it. Oh, he can cover really well, but they didn't ask him to do a lot of it. So to me, I'm like, why not? Like that's the thing that I keep coming back to. You have this athlete that has good instincts as a, not as a true pass rusher, but as a blitzer on games. Like he's not going to win a beat attack or one-on-one. He can compress the pocket a little bit to some great clips of him mashing up and one-on-one coverage with, you know, tight ends and receivers. And he can really run. Got a good feel. He's running down guys on reverses and things like that. And I just feel like they never let him kind of, they never unchain the beast, so to speak. That defense is very structured, very regimented, very traditional. So an answer to your question, Danny. Like, I think that's the thing. It's like, when you look at the production, what have they used them there? You're like, ah, like not overly exciting, but when you look at those, you know, those five times he blitz, you're like, man, they should have him do this all the time. Or those five times where he's carrying the scene, you're like, dude, this dude can really run. That's a receiver. He's step-for-step. So I just think about expanding and diversifying the way you use that player,

10:23based on a small sample size granted, is something that gets me excited. Again, it's not going to show up any statue, but when you cut the paper on, I think it's right there staring you in the face. I think that's one of the reasons why I think Adam Peters is one of the best in the business at this, is identifying talent and fitting it to the defensive scheme. That's what everyone talked about him doing, you know, obviously coming from San Francisco. And I think you see it in signings like this. We had Logan Paulson watch the tape and try to get to the bottom of how these new commanders will fit in a busy day three of free agency. Well, let's stay on the defensive side of the ball. The Chica Conco is going to be the grand finale here as we get back to your bread and butter, the tight end spot. But Nick Cross is only 24. And by the way, he's a young 24. He won't turn 25 until after week one, which is crazy. But he's been in the league for four years. He was a third round pick out of the University of Maryland. He's a booey Maryland kid who went to DeMatha. His numbers the last two years, he had 146 and 120 tackles at safety. He was clocked at a 4, 3, 4, 40. So this is up my alley in terms of getting younger, getting faster.

11:27And when you're at the safety position making that many tackles, it means you're playing around the line of stringer scrimmage. You're in the box. I saw next gen stats at him at 33 stops. Has a safety for basically unsuccessful plays like zero or, you know, one or two yards minus what have you. That was the most of the safety position last year in the NFL. What did you see when you watched him? Yeah, I think those numbers reflect what I saw in film. Like I think you want him at near around the line of scrimmage. I think you want him in man coverage. I think he matches up with tight end slot receivers. There's times where because of how the the defense, the offensive formation is structured. He's kind of the box player safety. But he's walked out over a slot receiver. Did a good job in man coverage there. He's a confident blitzer. I don't know. That's just doing it at the surface. He's an excellent blitzer. He's got a great feel for a tack and line of scrimmage. He does mix it up more than I thought he would. He's not a big man. He's six foot, uh, two hundred and twelve pounds. But, you know, like he's got this kind of ability to like get hands on tight ends, rip inside, make tackles. So at near line of scrimmage, he's excellent.

12:28I think he does. He does make some plays in zone coverage where he kind of has a nice feel. I personally think he gets lost at times there. Like he's a little bit too aggressive. So I think you prefer him in those man match situations. Which again is perfect because that's what the wrong. Oh, that's what, you know, Flores did in Minnesota. So I think there's going to be a lot of carry over here and kind of keeping it simple for him. Where you can just kind of run to spots, match up with people. Because again, like you said, Grant, like him around the line of scrimmage is special. And the way he blitzes is special. And so again, you kind of extrapolate that out and say like, wow, if you get this guy in the system, this Brian Flores quote unquote defense, where they're blitzing everybody all the time. You get three runners to the quarterback. He knows how to run picks in games. It can be the back in a blitzing situation. Like there, you're just adding all these pieces that can win one on ones, right? As a blitzer. So crossed and win a one on one, shinoff and win a one on one. All of a sudden you get a Daffaioe who is kind of like, I think with all of the support you're going to get from the scheme, kind of becomes your alpha rusher. But then you pair that with Doran's Armstrong to win a one on one.

13:28Caleb on chase on, you can kind of throw that fast ball pitch what you need to. And you're kind of like, man, the dynamics of this group, if they run a comparable scheme, become really, really compelling. And this group becomes extremely dangerous because of these additions and because of the speed you're alluding to their grant. Football's kind of positionless, especially defensively at this point. You just want athletes and definitely in Minnesota with Flores that that was kind of the idea. Did cross ever line up at linebacker per se like the way you see it? When I was watching just a few plays, he's on that level and kind of being a running hit guy in the run game. Is it really that different? I mean, in terms of like how they used him at times? Yeah, so in terms of like being a linebacker, like technically by spacing and by structure, he's the safety. But like to your point, like he's lining up at the second level of the defense quite a bit where he's kind of, you know, maybe over the guard. He's kind of playing that, what would you say is like that will linebacker in terms of like if you just put X's where everybody's at, that's kind of where he's lined up there. So I'm not again,

14:28they're, I'm glad you brought up the flexibility because obviously he's not a linebacker by trade, he's a safety. But because of his skill set at near around the line of scrimmage, he can kind of have some cross ever for you there. There's some reps where they're kind of in the 3-80 package and he's playing the nickel, right? So that's something that this team is at a hard time doing in terms of feeling like having a physical run playing nickel. And I think he kind of brings some of that attitude, some of that moxie, some of that physicality to that position, which again, like it's a little bit of a projection because his role was different in theapolis. But you say, man, he shows this skill set. I can take on blocks, I know how to fit runs, I know my gap, I can blitz well, like that's good nickel trade. So maybe he ends up kind of being that nickel, dime kind of linebacker for you. And again, just get more speed on the field and just presenting more diverse looks to the opposing offense is going to be huge. If they choose to go in that direction with that skill set. So how do you see that safety position now? It's a few different staffs now that have included Juan Martin, a holdover from a previous regime.

15:31But then he was also benched at times last year. How does it affect him? And just how do you see that safety position overall? Yeah, I mean, I'm really curious to see how everything progresses with this group. Again, I think they needed to add. Somebody so cross seems like a very natural fit here. But I do think I think Juan's a talented football player. And I know he's had his ups and downs since he's been here. But I think he's very, very talented. And I expect him to, I'm kind of waiting for him to kind of have this emergence and be the stud player that you see in flashes at moments. So, but I think like any good kind of roster construction, you don't want to give anybody anything. You want everyone to earn their opportunity. And I think by bringing crossing, you're forcing, you know, not only Juan, but all the other guys in that room to earn their spot, earn their keep and kind of keep what you kill. And I think that's kind of an important part of developing kind of this compete culture that Dan Quinn touts. As we can't just let rooms stay the same. We can't let rooms stay stagnant. We got to bring in good football players. And it's done a great job with that. Hey y'all, it's Kelly Clarkson with Wayfair.

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19:36or locate now at Celsius.com. All right, the third of the big three. Moves that took place on day three of free agency. Tight end, Chig a Kuan Kuo. And I want to give you full credit here because when I had kind of assigned you a handful of tight ends at the top of the market to watch, at that time, Isaiah likely was widely considered the number one guy. You came back after that project for an episode of Take Command. And you could not stop talking about a conco. And what's stunning Logan is, he didn't even get $10 million a year. I mean, we were thinking he might break the bank like the market was not what we thought. But by all accounts, I'd heard he was the favorite tight end for this front office for Adam Peterson company. Why did you love him so much? Yeah, man, I think for a multitude of reasons really. And so again, you kind of show up to kick a Chig a Kuan Kuo's tape like expecting him to be a good pass catcher. And he does. He's a good pass catcher.

20:36He can like run. He can work the seam. You know, he's a 4-5 kind of 40 guy, 4-5-1. So really, really fast. And that's the same kind of time the George Kittle ran. So he can work the seam. You can kind of see that vertical speed the way it stresses defenses. He could beat you on a corner. He could beat you on a post. He can play kind of with width and the split kind of run a backside dig like a true X receiver and win versus corners, win versus safeties. And then as you start getting into the cut-ups a little but getting a little bit deeper, you see him the way he catches the football at near around the line of scrimmage. And his ability to break tackles his contact balance. Like he becomes a running back with the football on his hands. He reminds me a little bit of kind of like, you know, not of this person from a personality standpoint, but the way they use Aaron Hernandez and Philly where it's like, or in New England where it's like, hey, he can play running back. We can get him on the screens. We can treat him almost like a pseudo wide receiver. And so usually when you're watching guys like that, you kind of say to yourself, well, obviously he does this. That's the only thing he does. He's a one-fick pony. Teams are going to be able to match you and kind of be, I'll physically you kind of with their,

21:40with their, you know, in terms of how they match you personally, why it's just going to match a nickel. It's like, okay, that's it. We don't have to worry about them running the football. And then you get to the run cut-ups, Grant. And it's just like, this dude is a, he's a dog, man. And then he's not a big man. You know, he's six, two and a half. He's 235, 240-ish pounds. But like, he'll stick his face on you. And he wants to wear you out. And so again, like, there are some physical limitations when it comes to match up for him. But like, one of the things you're always looking for is like, can you win in the past game? Can you beat linebackers? Can you beat safeties? Emphatically, yes. Can you make explosive plays after the catch? Emphatically, yes. And then you get to the run tape. And again, he's not going to be blocking, base blocking, defensive ends all the time. But when you get the right matchup for him, he will wear that dude out. And so I think like, I think about the kind of the way the position is going. More 12 personnel, more 13 personnel. Think about him. John Bates been sitting on the field with him playing kind of that Z receiver position. And the matchup you're going to be able to draw with him. You can run the football. He can play fullback. You can also run a vertical route and win.

22:43Like, it gets me really excited again. Like, in the same way, Leo Sinoz is exciting because it's like, what can this player be moving forward? If you use them correctly, and utilization's going to be huge for TIG. But the skill set is there, the mentality's there, the competitors there. And he's a guy that I want to bet on. And for the same reasons, you like some of these other defensive guys, right? He's a young football player with a lot of runway ahead of him. Faster, younger, the theme here this week. It's been awesome to see. It's funny you say that because I actually tweeted this after the move. I said, I wonder how much the commanders are going to use TIG at wide receiver? How different really is he than John Jennings? Who's the guy? Just because he's at the top of the market that we've talked about at Nazim on the show the last two days, they're the same height. A conco is 25 pounds heavier than Jennings. But he runs a faster 40. I mean, Jennings is like a 468, 472, 40 guy. Now, maybe he's twitchier. I mean, I would imagine with lighter, he might be a little more sudden. But what's so different, if you're going 13 personnel and you have those two guys in line,

23:43and then you split him out to do some of the stuff, you'd ask Jennings to do, I mean, it's not that different. Yeah, to me, it's not. And again, I've watched a little bit of Jennings or watch the obviously TIG. You said maybe Jennings is twitchier. I don't think so. I think TIG's got a very explosive lower half. I think you can push vertically in a way that seems a little bit better than Jennings. And so again, Jennings has some more running nuance to his game, the ability to find zones, form a quarterback, that shows up for him. And again, TIG is just this raw horse power stallion that you'd let off and he's just galloping through the field. But I think there's a lot you can do with that offensive playmaker. Now again, this is hard. Like the players got to be able to handle the intellectual demands of learning multiple positions. But I think there's a foundation set in terms of how they use them in Tennessee where he said, hey man, we can get this guy in multiple spots, multiple positions. He can make plays for us. He's fearless at the catch point, which is great. I think there's some inconsistencies

24:44with how he tracks the football sometimes. But dude, he is, I really like the field. And again, I don't like this body type for tight ends. Traditionally, I want my guys to be six, four and a half, six, five, I want 33 inch arms. I want them, I want, you know, Colston Lovelin last year is kind of my perfect, you know, like my bromance tight end in terms of body type. But TIG, I mean, the film doesn't lie, man, it won me over. And I think this is a piece that could be really dynamic. And again, can you parlay this into more in this offense with, you know, David Blow kind of coming from this Detroit tree where you're used to finding playmakers and guys that can win one-on-ones and applying them. Like, they work with Amon Rossane Brown, who is this traditional quote-unquote slot guy only, but they find ways to get him open on the perimeter. Can you do something similar with this type of piece? Yeah, Logan, you touched on. I wanted your thoughts that he's not the typical prototype, sort of body for a tight end, but you address that. But then second area is the short area stuff. Can he win, but win ways beside speed? Like, I think of that Zach Hertz dancing bear, you know, a little bit of body lean. And all of a sudden, you get guy going the wrong way

25:45and boom, you're open for that little five-yard on the third and four. Does he have that nuance maybe in his bag? Maybe not now, but maybe soon, is he going to be able to win in those kind of ways, too, is it just speed right now? So I think it's like, I think it's speed and twitch. So what I mean by that is like, you talk about Zach and kind of having this old man, YMCA, the Jordan Reed Euro step. I don't really see that same nuance with Chig, but his horse power is so much more significant. Like, I think about when I first started playing with George Kittle in San Francisco, and like, there wasn't a lot of nuance to him, but he was quick and he was explosive. And so like, he'd run a slant, and you're like, man, that's not the best slant I've ever seen, but because he can stick his foot in the ground so violently and explode out of the cut, guys just can't match him. And so there's a couple times where he's run an angle routes underneath crossing routes where he's just walking off on, guys, because he's lower body strength. I'm talking about Chicago now. It's so significant. So like, can he refine that area of his game? Absolutely. And I do think building a relationship with an accurate quarterback like Jane Daniels

26:46is only going to help him. But I think think of it more like, I am strong in the lower half. I'm switched up. I've got great tendon and ligament stiffness. And when I put my foot in the ground, there's no loss in terms of speed I'm getting out of this cut right now. So a little bit less nuance, but I think it's the explosive athlete has found a way at the NFL level to win. So I'm going to bet on his previous tape and say that'll continue to translate. You guys are listening to an emergency episode of Take Command. This conversation was Logan on with myself and Danny Ruyet on Grant and Danny on 1067, the fan. All right. Last one on a conqueau. The David Blau offense and how tight end fits here. We don't really know how much this is going to look like. You know, a Ben Johnson or a Kevin O'Connell offense. But what's your guess on the role of the position and what that means not only for Chig, but also for Ben Sinett for John Bates? So I think, you know, obviously, like people look at me and say, like, oh, this is the role of the offense. This is the role of tight end the offense and Detroit. Or this is the role of the tight end in the offense

27:47and San Francisco or Minnesota or wherever. Any of these kind of West Coast derivatives that we've seen that have become like, you know, run first, play action teams. But I think the thing that Ben Johnson, the Kyle Shannon, Sean McBae, Kevin O'Connell, name your kind of premier offensive coordinators. They do a great job of finding playmakers and then building the offense to maximize the playmaker. So like here, you know, obviously, like, you got John Bates, you got Ben Sinett. You got guys that are kind of physical downhill players. I think with the way you use the tight end, we'll reflect that. Now you throw this piece in with Chig or Conquoel and you say, okay, how do we maximize this piece over? You see going to be the motion man in 12 personnel. Is he going to be in 13 personnel or see the guy in 11 where we get him in these kind of matchups and raise the backside of a three by one? And so to me, like, it's not so much like how Ben Johnson used him. It's how David Blow is going to take those principles that Ben Johnson implemented and say, how do I now apply them to these playmakers? And so to me, I think with it, you know, it'll take some time and you got to think about it, be creative with personnel,

28:49with verbiage, all those different things. But I think this is a piece coupled with Terry McClure and coupled, honestly, with Ben Sinett on first and second down or even where you say to yourself, like, hey, we can find this guy a matchup that he can consistently win. And that is the core tenant of Kyle Shanahan. That is the core tenant of Ben Johnson. Like, I just mentioned close to him, love him. That's why he's so good in Chicago right now is because Ben Johnson understands, like, this is a guy that could win up this type of one-on-one. And this is how I formation it to get him in that situation. I think she pissed that bill. Logan, we'll let you out on this, but of the things they haven't gotten done. The one plan that didn't go according to, you know, the way they drew it up was wide receiver where you miss on piercens and dobs and so far they've struck out. And then they did lose Chris Rodriguez today, the first player to leave the building to sign elsewhere. So running back is still a position of need. So I want to ask this through the lens of seventh overall. Jeremiah, I love first and foremost, if he were to get there, is the arrow trending up on the chances of that.

29:50And then Danny's been huge on the possibility for weeks of drafting a wide receiver at seven, like Cornell Tate that still feels a little rich to me, but your thoughts on that as well. Yeah, I mean, I do think like, obviously Jeremiah love is, I'd say, you know, one A, one B best player in the class. So, you know, and it's not just because he's a runner, because he's this guy that can find mismatches in the past game as well. Like, I think Christian McAfrici, Christian McAfrici, excuse me, Dijon Robinson, this guy that is not just a runner, he's a offensive mismatch piece. Like, you can line him up in the slot. He can win on a choice. Like, not quite as refined as Christian McAfric but a little bit more horsepower, catches the football well. And so that's why to me, it's seven, the running back piece. Maybe feels a little bit better. Do you think about the way that San Francisco is constructed, right, a couple of years ago? Like, they had a dynamic piece at tight end. They had a dynamic piece at, obviously, running back and then they had a dynamic wide receiver and they kind of made that go. And so I do think like the idea of a running back

30:50at seven is really appealing. It's not just any running back. Jeremiah loves specifically and with regards to Danny's point about receiver. I do think that receivers are, it is a very, very deep receiver class. So I do think you'll be able to get one at 71. But for example, if we talk to this on take command, if, you know, Colonel Tate or Jordan Tyson or lemon from USC, if they're, you know, a top five player on your board and you're sitting there at seven and they're there, like, I have no qualms if you take in that player. I just think one of the things is you've got to think offensive playmaker, right? So it's not a running back, offensive playmaker. It's not a receiver, it's an offensive playmaker. Because that's how, honestly, you know, when you look at Ben Johnson and you look at David Blow, I assume they're going to apply these pieces. So I think you got to get a little bit more dynamic on offense. And if you can't get it handled in fragency, I do think that seven becomes a really nice way to get that done. Logan, excellent with us. One lean protein and two. That's two boiled vegetables your entitled to tonight. Well done. Dude, I'm living like a king now, boy. Yeah, buddy. I'm crushing it. That was Logan Paulson as heard on my daily show

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