Ebola, Killer Robots, and Trump’s Victory Arch

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2:22Well, I haven't put any up there. You like three. I did all of blood lies. I've done all of them. So that's book one of the red we saw. Yeah, I started Armageddon, Stray and the Winds of Evil. I have to go and see if I've done all of those. Yeah, I can't remember. Be honest. We just gonna want to forgive me. Derek and I have been doing a lot of doctorate. I've been driving lately instead of actually being on my computer. Well, we will talk about the doctorate in the OG report. At the end, we are the OGs of podcasting. This is to the best of our knowledge, the longest wedding continuously produced podcast on the internet. And we don't. March 5th, 2005. Yeah, so we are 21 years in on this experiment. One of these days we'll get it right. Well, a lot to talk about again this week. And a story that isn't getting as much play here in the West as it should, given that it's less than, well, a little over 10 years ago, we saw a

3:26major outbreak of Ebola in West Africa with 11,000 deaths as part of that outbreak. Yeah, let me bring the Ebola stuff up. I thought you were going to go to the robot first since you mentioned delete and exterminate. Okay. Yeah, just bookmark those turns. Yeah, because we'll be coming back to that. We will be. Well, I wrote a book, a body ball and the fourth horseman of the apocalypse that can 2014 right published. And yeah, 2014. In fact, it was 20 that book. 2015 or early 2015. Yeah. Yeah, I actually talked with Gary Steerman in October of 2014. Right. Right. Right. Right. It was published in 2014. And it was the very first Skywatch TV program. Yeah. I was there. Michael Lake was there. And we talked with Gary Steerman, who is the original artist. That's correct. Yeah. Those are the pilot episodes of Skywatch TV.

4:30And yours was the first one broadcast in March of 2015. Yeah, that's when it was broadcast, but we recorded it in 2014. Right. And so the book was available at that time. And Gary had read it. He was very complimentary, very, very nice guy. Well, I'm clean as seen here. Yeah. He is of course with prophecy watchers out in Oklahoma City. So you are someone who is looking for yet more things to watch if you aren't familiar with prophecy watches. Right. You should be Skywatch TV and prophecy watchers were sister organizations for a long time. Yeah. Yeah. The outbreak in the Democratic Republic of Congo in Uganda are expanding so rapidly that it looks like this may eventually surpass the West African outbreak. Yeah. What's African? In a number of countries like Syria, Sierra Leone, yeah. And I've recoded. We're really taking off in the big cities. Yeah. Traditionally, Ebola has been more of a smaller city and a glitch problem.

5:34And that was the first one in West Africa. Usually the Ebola outbreaks have been confined to Central Africa like in Congo in Uganda. Yeah. The DRC right now has over 6,200 cases. These are verified cases. Yeah. Not just somebody has the same symptoms, but they've actually been tested and over 3,000 deaths. I think it's 3,039 deaths. Yeah. So this is almost a 50% death rate. That's big. It really is. You know, what was it? The big 2020 event, we won't say anything more than that. 0.2%. Extremely low. In fact, the Spanish flu is 0.5%. Right. Yeah. The typical seasonal flu is 0.1. Yeah. I have seen some claims that it was as big as 2.5%. Yeah. The Spanish flu. It did kill a lot of people worldwide, but we're talking about just in the DRC. I just shared on

6:40X. By the way, if you don't follow us on X, Derek and I share a lot of news stuff there. I just shared the story about at the New York Times, I think, it was looking at coffin making in the DRC right now. Naturally, when you have a lot of deaths, you need to bury your loved ones, but it isn't just lack of coffins. It is now restrictions on the traditional ways of handling your loved ones. Normally, the family prepares the loved ones for death. You wash the body, you anoint the body, and then you all gather together. There is a lot of hands on activity, which is a sure far way to get catch the disease. Yeah. Yeah. It's not a one where the virus is aerosolized through droplets, they think. Well, do you remember, though, in 2014, oh gosh, the gentleman from

7:44Michael, last name starts with an old. Ulsterholm. Ulsterholm, yes, thank you very much. I even shared this video with the number of students that he was because he's a professor up in University, Minnesota. Yes, thank you very much. That's where Sid Rap was located. Yeah, Minnesota, well, Dr. Ulsterholm. Anyway, he was telling them. He's saying to the people in the front row, if I sneeze and I have a bowl, I have just infected you because bodily fluids are how it is spread. That's not just blood. It's also saliva. And if you watch, if you've ever been near an orchestra pit, well, yeah, then you watch the singers on the stage and you can see the lights, the people in the orchestra pit are ducking practically, I'm joking. But you can see the spittle from the singing that travels three to six feet. When I was doing five and ten regularly,

8:49you know, from out in the barn, I would have my iPad sitting in front of you with my notes. And about every three, four days, I would have to, you know, clean the screen because just from speaking, not singing full-throwed, just speaking. Just speaking, you know, and it's in coughing. Right. Yeah. Yeah. It is a very effective way of sharing your germs. That's what it's like. Right. And as we discussed back in 2014, when this was coming out, because we were doing PID radio, then of course, we pointed out and were later proven right that Ebola is just one international flight away from reaching Europe, Asia, North America. And it did get to those cats. Texas. Yeah. But thankfully, people were quarantined very quickly and it didn't spread. The nightmare scenario, of course, you know, the Stephen King scenario would be

9:53somebody on a plane infecting an entire plane load of people who then get off and go to their various destinations or connecting flights and take it elsewhere. Thankfully, that didn't happen, but it is plausible. Well, that brings us to the period of darkness aspect of PID radio. You brought up Stephen King's and I know you're referring to the Stan. The Stan. You have never. The fact of the trips. Yeah. If you've never read that book, you really should. It's kind of a long book and it's typical King. There's a lot of internal dialogue. Yeah. I love that about his books. Sadly, Stephen King has no his worldview is rocky at best. He believes in evil, but not good. Supernatural evil, but no supernatural good. Right. He thinks the only solution to supernatural evil is mankind's own behavior. Right. He in the stand depicted the outbreak which devastated

10:56humanity and left, you know, sort of a post-apocalyptic world with a good versus evil confrontation of people who were living with an older woman, a black woman, a far-of-and-rural Kansas, if I remember correctly. Who was a bit like an angelic figure? Right. Because she was a seer. Yeah. And the group had to volunteer to go to Las Vegas where the evil character Randall Flag, who appears in a number of Stephen King's novels, had set up this really awful city of just, I mean, it'd taken Las Vegas and turned it up to 11. And he was crucifying Christians. Yeah. Yeah. And ultimately, one of the characters that he had bought with him to Las Vegas trash can, man.

11:58played in the first adaptation that I saw by the wonderful, oh, the actor who played the Max Headroom gosh, what was his name? Oh, yes. Matt Fruer. Right. Thank you. And he gets his hands on a nuclear weapon and brings it to Vegas and it blows up because, through divine intervention, God causes it to blow up. And then Flag washes up in the novel on the shore in Brazil and, you know, starts all over again. It's portrayed in the novel as this game of chess between God and Randall Flag, who's the Satan character. And humanity are just the pawns in the middle of this war. It's not like God is there to save us from Satan. It's just we're sort of like the ants on the ground while the elephants are fighting, you know. And it's the terrible thing about Stephen King's world view. It is awful. Yeah, it is terrible.

13:00I'm going to sneeze in a second so I'm warning you on the dance. Yeah, this is one of the things. Seven. One of the things that in fact, that would make a good subject for an Iron In myth episode, Stephen King's The Stand. It's been adapted for film a couple of times. And I think for a series as well. Yeah, Gary Seneese was in one version of it. That was the one with Ed Fruir. Ray Walson too. And Ray Walson. They were part of the crew of the head to go out west to try to confront Randall Flag. It was played by Janie Sheridan. Yeah, I can't be in the first Favourbaiki. I think it's his one. Bill Fakerbaiki. Yes, Mo and Spells Moon. He was sort of the simple-minded but good-hearted character. And Roblo was in it. That's right. I'd forgotten it was one who befriended Favourbaiki's character. Yeah, yeah. It would be a very interesting

14:01book and film adaptation. Now I'm going to make a note of that to discuss it because even though Stephen King's worldview is not based in reality. I mean, I'm not even going to say it's not even Christian, it's not based in reality. It's not based in spiritual reality. No. Spiritual reality, right? Which is an odd thing to say. Spiritual reality. I mean, logically though, if you're going to allow for supernatural evil, why not allow for supernatural good as well. Yeah. That's just that King's worldview. And it's said because it's made him a very bitter man as you can tell by his social media posts. But it is the kind of program that can open conversations about spiritual matters and can encourage families. If you're going to watch it, I think the one with Roblo and Jerry Sinese had some violence in it, but I don't recall

15:07anything else that would be rated NC17 or anything that. Well, no. In fact, I think it was a TV miniseries. I think you're right. Yeah. So it didn't even have that. It is the kind of thing that can open up discussions. Why do bad things happen to good people? Why does God allow for evil? If God knows all things from the end from the beginning as the prophet Isaiah wrote, why didn't he put a stop to Satan in the garden? To say, that's it. You've rebelled your out. We're not going to allow for any of this. And of course, the answer to that is, you know, the two-word answer, free will. God created both the spirit realm and humanity with free will. Free will that is not tested is not genuinely a choice. True. You have to be given a choice to make a choice. Yeah. And I've seen debates. This has been a

16:10one of those things where skeptics and atheists think they've got a gotcha, you know, in that and for the last 2000 years. If God sees evil but doesn't do anything about it, is it because He can't or because He doesn't care. Well, I'm the answer is neither of the above. He does care. That's why he went to the cross. But even at that, he loves us enough not to abrogate our free will. He allows us to choose in the same way we as humans have children. And know that they are going to, at some point, choose wrong and maybe even try to lie through a lot of it. The only way to keep them from ever doing anything bad is to keep them in chains, keep them in a cage. I mean, you basically have to turn them into little mindless automatons who are programmed to do nothing except what you command. And that's not a family. That's not a family. No.

17:15And that is not how God created us or the angelic realm, which is why you've got angels like Satan and those who constitute the pantheons of the pagans, Zeus, Bale, Yishtar, and Anno, whatever, these are all fallen angels who have chosen to rebel against God. I think examining, and it actually would be an interesting series to look at well-known novels because, you know, Rhine Gidawa is a novelist. He loves and I screenwriter as well. So he loves the idea of teaching through fiction. Right. So taking a look at what humans have learned over the years from a variety of novels and one of them could be Dracula. Yeah, in fact, we talked about that in the episode that we did about vampires. Yes, but it wasn't specifically about that novel alone. Another one is in its novella. It's relatively short with his Jekyll and Hyde. Looking at the difference if you, and Stephen King would say

18:20that Jekyll and Hyde, I think, would say that Jekyll and Hyde was a really good study because that's the evil and the good. It's in mankind. Yeah. But of course, you know, Stephen King would still say, yeah, but beyond that, there's actual evil with a capital E. Right. But the only way to, you know, defeat it is through human action. And that evil has a molet. If you watch the miniseries, Reddle Flag has a molet. Yeah, Jamie Sheridan, that was back in Mollet Days. Yeah. It was something that's come up repeatedly during the Iron and Myth series that we've been doing about the depiction of monsters by Hollywood and how we can use, we Christians can use tropes like vampires like Frankenstein's monster. We did zombies one week or one month. Last month was aliens in the UFO phenomenon. And this month, I'm very excited about the discussion. We're going

19:26to talk tomorrow night and the episode will come out in a couple of weeks. It's going to be about chaos monsters. In other words, giant monsters. So we're going to talk about Godzilla. We're going to talk about dragons. Brian had a really good suggestion for a film that I hadn't seen in years and hadn't seen the whole thing. Rain of Fire. Oh, yeah. With Christian Bale and Matthew McConaughey. Really interesting discussion. You know, what happens when monster from the deep emerges. I suggested Pacific Rim, which you got me to have to watch this weekend. Just watch Cloverfield the other day because I had forgotten until I watched it again. That little easter egg right at the end of the movie. If you've not seen the movie, it's done as the form of a found videotape. Yeah. Which begins with the going away party for the protagonist and

20:29suddenly their party is interrupted by the lights going out and this huge explosion out in New York, Arbor, it's said New York. It's really well done. It really is. As far as the found footage genre goes, it's brilliant. And basically what's happened is this giant monster just suddenly shows up out of nowhere. Iconic scene where the head of the statue of liberty comes flying down their street and screeches to all in front of their apartment building. But at the end of the because the kid who was the friend of the protagonist who was documenting the going away party had inadvertently taped over a videotape that the protagonist had made of him. It is girlfriend who he hadn't worked up the guts to ask her to marry him and so forth. And so they were breaking up. And some of that footage leaks through the points where the tape stops and restarts again. And at the very end of the whole thing where the monster... I'm just going to give

21:34away an ending. The monster is... I was going to say somebody that's never seen it don't get it. Yeah. It's really worth seeing. I think one of the more terrifying giant monster movies. I've seen because they don't show too much of the monster too soon. But anyway at the end of the film as the tape is running out you see a video of the two of them in a carousel, a Ferris wheel, Coney Island I guess. And over the shoulders looking out at the ocean just barely visible under the horizon is a big splash. The monster falling from heaven like lightning. So it's like okay. I hadn't even thought about that in terms of a biblical context but you can take that and start from there. Probably didn't drop my King the Door. Probably. Yeah. Well we are going to talk about you know God's the Lucking of the Monsters. Oh yes. The 2019 movie. Yeah. You got to. But I think taking a look at all of these monster monsters with the idea of a chaos dragon in view. But

22:43connected to that is how do we interpret this sounds like a slight left turn but it really isn't. How do we interpret the bones that are visible in our earths when she started digging and sometimes they actually have a surface to find them. The massive bones of what we would call dinosaurs or paleozoic reptiles. What do you want to call them? I saw a video claiming. I've got to do some research on this because even I've talked about Gryffinds before. Yeah. Gryffinds is a composite animal and in fact it may have influenced a borrowed word in Hebrew. Right. Yeah. So let me just finish this first and then you can talk about that. The video that I saw was an alleged scientific reinterpretation of an old story of a Gryffind being half lion, half eagle. Now if it sounds

23:49familiar prophetically it kind of is there. There's a prophecy in the Bible about that but the claim is that modern scientists, my degrees in biology, particularly studying genetics and molecular biology at IU and I had to take three evolution classes so I can tell you that they're convinced they're right. It's a religion to many scientists in that field. They believe that it was the discovery of bones that led to the story of Gryffinds. Fossilized eggs and this entity that appeared to be, it was a type of cytarot, serratops by serratops that they have this beaked snout. Right. Right. And what looks like perhaps feathers coming off. You know the frill.

24:51Right. Okay those are feathers but look it's four-footed so probably this was a lion and had a bit of a tail so this probably a lion with a bird head and feathers. Yeah. And look it would died protecting its eggs because I was allegedly part of the folklore of Gryffinds. They have these bones being discovered in eastern Europe and also in Mongolian places like that. I always had always the impression that it was Egyptian. Well yeah the the RISM. What's going on in dinosaur? The RISM scholarly consensus developing that the root word in Hebrew behind the word serraphim which is believed to be the averb that means to burn so the

25:53serraphim would be the burning ones. But there are some now and Dr. Nicholas Wyatt whose work I think we've cited almost every nonfiction book we've written. Yeah I know. He's brilliant and brilliant scholar of Canaanite and ancient Near Eastern cosmology argued and this is now turned up in the dictionary of deities and demons the entry for serraphim. That the root word is actually a lone word from Egyptian meaning to Gryffinds. So yeah as you as you point out the Gryffind is a composite eagle lion but as we look at the the caravine or the lamasu of the the Assyrians you've got the composite that's lion and eagle and bull and human. So yeah not coincidental that you've got these

26:54characteristics that are that well that show up in the Bible. Now in the Bible the serraphim are described as fiery serpents. Not the only place they're mentioned explicitly is an Isaiah 6 to beginning of Isaiah 6. An entity with six wings two covers his face two covers his feet which is a euphemism basically meaning covering himself from modesty and then with two we flew and then one of them brings down a coal touches Isaiah's lips when he says you know I'm a man of unclean lips and you know bite this coal is taking away your sin and your uncleanness but in numbers 21 and in Isaiah 14 and another chapter in Isaiah and I'm going to forget it's 30 or 31 somewhere around there anyway and also in the book of Deuteronomy where these are reference to

27:56flying or fiery serpents or flying fiery serpents. In numbers 21 especially you see hot Nakashim, hot serraphim so the Nakash which is serpent and the serraph which is this six winged entity from Isaiah used almost interchangeably so scholars are up to believe that the serraphim had serpentine appearance with some human features. I mean clearly if he's touching Isaiah's lips with a coal he's got arms and hands. Well exactly and I guess what I find so interesting about the Griffin is that it is just two beasts allegedly. Yes. Eagle and a lion but the idea of throne guardians is four beasts. True right and I've seen some who contend that the caravine

28:58chairavine but the Hebrew pronunciation is caravine and the serraphim were both types of throne guardians except that unlike the caravine who were never seen outside the presence of God they are you know right up there next to his throne protecting him from anybody who's not supposed to get close. The serraphim in numbers 21 in Isaiah 14 and Deuteronomy again which is the description of what happened in numbers 21 where they were being the Israelites who'd been complaining. God sent these flying fiery serpents to bite them and you know cause them to die until you know Moses put up the bronze pole and with this take out the top and so those appear to be agents of God's judgment perhaps.

30:00They are sometimes seen outside the presence of God. Yeah what's so interesting about the legends of the Gryffinds the ones that again not the biblical Gryffind or the Egyptian Gryffind or even Persian apparently some of these words go back to Persia or even Anatolia that the old mythology is they guard not just their eggs but also gold. Okay or silver reminds me a bit of some of the stories of dragons that they're guarding either a golden fleece you know that story there's a dragon that wraps itself around a tree and the golden fleece hangs from it and Jason and his organauts have to find a way to get rid of the dragon so they can get the golden fleece but that anybody who's

31:00watched the the Hobbit or read the Hobbit. Yeah. Smell. Dragon loves treasure. Yeah. That's why he showed up in the first place. He smelled treasure, decided to take it all, burned everybody but to be able to find and took it over and now the dwarves have to go back and take it from the dragon. Yeah it's Tolkien clearly had read some books. Tolkien was in many ways a folklorist yeah and a linguist so he followed the etymology and the language of various stories and the civilizations he he loved Norse mythology. Created his own languages for the elves. The ruins. Yeah. Yeah so you've got to be pretty smart to do that and also have a lot of

32:04ability to focus. I mean you can you can just imagine you know sitting there in his office hour after hour developing a complete lexicon and linguistic structure for sentences and so forth for an entirely fictional made up language and you know Mrs. Tolkien coming in saying John when he can go on fix that fence wait a minute I'm still learning to I'm trying to figure out how to conjugate the verb. Yeah I know. In the Elvish like what I think or I know us I think that if I remember correctly the Hobbit started as a bedtime story to Christopher. Well sadly Christopher's son was it Simon? I can't remember. I think that's it. I've just blocked it out of my memory. Yeah I guess not protected the legacy of the estate the way Christopher did with the like rings of power. Yeah. By the way if you're interested in looking up the references to

33:07the flying fiery serpents numbers 21 6 and 8 Deuteronomy 8 15 and the references in Isaiah almost had right. Isaiah 1429 other than in Isaiah 6 where he's you know in the throne room of God and I was right it's Isaiah chapter 30 verse 6 and again those references to fiery serpents and the flying fiery serpent is in 30 verse 6 which is interesting when you think about that for just a moment what else would you call a flying fiery serpent? Tragon. Yeah not not a seraph. It's one the reasons we wrote giant scots and dragons. Right I mean it's the like well God's been mysterious right there in the face all alone. I am not sure forgive me if you had something else on your little list that you wanted to get to because I know you lucked a lot talking about politics I got that and I love talking about politics and theopolitics and particularly. Right yeah but I

34:12want to bring up if you are listening to this if you need a PID radio we Derek has been sharing old PID radio episodes yeah and you just shared one as a way back Wednesday that was with the late doctor Tom Holt throwback Thursday. Oh throwback Thursday. Yeah way back Wednesday is of you from the bunk. Oh sorry about that I should remember that but Tom Horn was our guest and Tom Horn is with the Lord now and he had a knack for understanding and explaining understanding a lot of really complex tenfoil hat territory concepts but with a biblical pastor's heart basis and he went on any show that invited him and would explain it to any group that wanted to hear the truth about aliens or UFOs or or giants or dragons or or

35:13even he loved talking about science too and he and I shared many emails back and forth talking about science. You just listened to that episode can you just break down really quickly and maybe in the description for this video put a link to that one. Sure it was a discussion about the watchers the rebellious watchers of Genesis chapter 6. Right watcher might be a class of angel. Yeah as far as we know at the time we talked to Tom back in 2008 I was not aware of the reference to the watchers in Daniel chapter 4. Yeah which 2006 was kind of you were still Holy Spirit was still growing that knowledge based for you. Yeah yeah so the watchers the nephiline and his belief based on the Septuagint translation and I was just trying to look this up while you

36:17were talking that the his theory was that the watchers created the nephiline by co-mingled with human women as a way of opening a portal a stargate if you will into our dimension because they saw that the daughters of men were fit extensions a way of extending themselves into our dimension when I'm looking at the Septuagint translation the the Brenton now and I don't see that phrase in there. Did he get that extension from first in oxa? I don't think so I think he said specifically Septuagint. Oh okay. So but anyway that that was the theory and again it was a fascinating

37:19discussion because Tom and Eli Marzilli were really among the two first two from whom we heard about the Genesis 6 paradigm and then the course doctor Michael Heiser looking at it from a a scholar's perspective was a little more restrained in his analysis but early on we we started talking to Mike as well back in 2005 and because of that we were privy to the working draft of what became the book the unseen realm and the time that he shared it with us and I think I still have a PDF copy of it somewhere under the title the myth that we is true but between Tom and Mike and LA and you know Guy Malone and others we began down this road of research that led to our

38:26book veneration and giants gods and dragons so yeah Tom and I shared a couple of short clips which you can find at the Gilbert House Ministries page Gilbert House Fellowship page on Facebook and also the PID radio page on Facebook also you know among the shorts at our YouTube channel. I was going to say if you're listening to this on YouTube then you're all under here just go check it. Go to our channel go to the section that says shorts and you'll find a few clips that I took from the from the interview with Tom and and shared just yesterday. Again it was just one of the very early discussions we had with Tom about the whole incident but again that that phrase fit extension and I would like to because I for kind of forgotten about that. Oh it's a phrase I heard him use many many times and I'd like to see regott it because he

39:29said some two-ogen and it may be that he was looking at the original Greek and well and looking at the translation or the meanings of the words in the Greek. I have no doubt whatsoever that Tom had specific versus versus either in the sip to do version of the Bible. But if you're listening to this and you don't know your Bible don't feel bad about that. Nobody really knows the Bible inside out because it is it's almost like a bottomless well there's so much there to learn and the Septuagint is a translation of a Hebrew text but manuscript of the Bible that is no longer available what that text was is uncertain but it was translated into Greek about 200 years before Jesus was born. Right. And you get an idea of what 200 BC or thereabouts with the scholars of the

40:30time who understood Hebrew they understood the context of the Bible they understood civilization how people would receive it they translated it into Greek so that the Greek world which had now essentially everything was Greek. Yeah. It's all Greek to me. They they translated it so that the Greek speaking population could read it. Right. And so that was the Bible that was being read by the disciples. Right. And obviously just the Old Testament because the New Testament hadn't yet written but it includes some books that are not in our modern Old Testament like First Eztris, Tobit, Judaism, Syracchup, Aruch, the letters of Jeremiah, Song of the Three, you know Bell and the Dragon, First, Second, Third and Fourth Maccabees and so on. So it's worth looking at and when we do our weekly Bible study the Guildhouse Fellowship on Sunday mornings we will

41:30always look at the Septuagint while we're going through our Old Testament readings because it was translated from Hebrew in a Greek more than a thousand years before the Hebrew manuscripts on which our Old Testaments are based today so we can see what changes have been made. Nothing significant about the change doctrines but enough here and there to show how this supernatural was sometimes de-emphasized. Yeah that's very true and sometimes in the Septuagint you will see that a chapter is a little shorter or that a word translated perhaps as the dead in which sounds sort of generic is actually giants. Yeah so it's that's worth noting for example in Isaiah 14 which we just did two weeks ago the the word you know the shades rise up to greet you it's actually the giants because the translators

42:34understood that the word in Hebrew, Rephahem, referred to the spirits of the giants who had been destroyed in the flood of Noah. Well I'm now going to connect this this topic to a very recent news article. Okay well that make happy. Sure. It's 250 foot arch of triumph that is constructed in Washington DC. The late Dr. Horn he wrote a lot about the city of Washington DC and how you see symbolism in the architecture of the fallen realm and activities between humans and the fallen realm and years ago I had a wonderful friend named Sue Bradley who has long since gone to be with and she wrote about a it was an art exhibition I'll put that in air quotes at the is part of this

43:39pointed area there in Washington DC where you see the Potomac come down and I think there's another river down there too that it joined up with so you get this point and at that point in that park was this art installation it looked just like a giant yeah it's emerging from the earth so gigantic fingers a gigantic head starting to come out I can't remember if there's a foot there or not but that is just one of the many art pieces that have been in Washington DC so what do you care Gilbert think that President Trump intends for this arch that is 250 feet tall because of the 250th anniversary of the United States but then looking at theopolitics behind you thinking theopolitics what might it really mean well I will say this President Trump is a baby Christian

44:47he is and we did not elect him to be our theologian in chief so I know that there are Christians who have been critical of President Trump for various things that he's done over the past year especially like on Easter what he posted that a social media post about you know just having hammered Iran with a with a military strike and some of the things have been shared by his social media team showing him you know healing the sick and yeah I get a team and yeah not even sure if they're all Christians probably not and probably not aware of how that's going to resonate with folks here in the the Bible belt we were just outside Springfield Missouri about you know 45 minutes to an hour away and Springfield is it is the buckle of the Bible belt yeah it is I've heard that used by about a number of yeah yeah it's very good assemblies of God national headquarters is in Springfield

45:50Missouri and if you know assembly's of God that's pretty conservative not you know got some doctoral issues but anyway this structure looks a lot like the arched detour Yom in Paris it's going to be topped by Lady Liberty which is probably when you go back to its inspiration probably inspired by Ishtar in Anna and it has some looking at this theologically I did an interview with a friend of ours Chad Schaefer about his book the world in the body of Egypt under the arch of Titus that was a reference to the arch that is in Rome now that depicts the Romans carrying off the Vanora from the temple in Jerusalem when it was just right in 70 AD so now we've got an arch

46:58which is a depicts a liminal boundary meeting the boundary between one realm and the next like the Dolans of Israel and many places around the world are in the Caucasus. Korea has all bunch of Dolans look like tables but essentially you got a portal a passageway from one side through to the other there was a lot of imagery and architecture in Washington DC that has theological implications that our politicians may not be aware of when they're constructing a trump this is probably something that just looks classical and grand and it's going to be you know awesome because it looks like something that you would find in Europe except if you know it's got the

47:59you know one nation under God right underneath Lady Liberty there and I would imagine Ishtar Inana is thinking yeah I'm the God. When time was writing I think a polyamorizing he and I were communicating about that and he was asking me I told him asked him are you aware of the original design for the Washington monument and he was but he wasn't aware of this and this at the time was difficult to find this information it's now in the you know the source of all knowledge Wikipedia but the original 1833 design had a big collinated portico that surrounded the base of the monument and the entry point the arched entry into this circular base

49:07was topped by a statue of Washington driving the chariot that represents Zeus driving the chariot which is a very uh sun god portrayal and it was supposed to be not four horses which is what is normally shown it was going to be six hmm hmm hmm so why portray Washington not only as the Sun deity but also as Zeus because slash Jupiter if you go into this myth 70 and you'll see at least two statues of of George Washington in the typical Zeus you know pose yeah and then I'm the apotheosis of Washington on the other side of the capital dome where I argue in my book the

50:09second coming of Saturn he's actually depicted as the risen Saturn who was now emerged from Charteris and reclaimed what he believes is his rightful place in the heavens he's all the gods rolled into wine apparently yeah he's got the I think actual Washington would have just oh he would have hauled yeah yeah Tom won't need to that in Apollyon rising 2016 Zedith was it Zedith 20 25 yes was a thank no it was like there was one that was 2012 and we thought it would look Zedith 2016 Apollyon rising 2012 yes yes Apollyon or rising was 2012 okay and part of that was because he'd been talking with the late David Flynn yeah about the symbolism of the 2012 event and if you're brand new to all this stuff we highly recommend Tom Horns books and also David Flynn's

51:09books yeah which are hard to find now not not times are easy to find just the sky which TV store but David Flynn's stuff is out of print yeah yeah not even at Skywatch TV store anymore sadly but in the second coming of Saturn I gave my interpretation of the Apotheosis of Washington which differed from Tom's a bit he saw Apollyon and Apolly was the same entity I argue that they are different entities first of all and that secondly Saturn well Saturn would be Apollyon but Apollyon is not the Antichrist right I think the confusion is that they sound some right yeah Apollo Apollo was the plague God and I'm not sure how he gets conflated with the Sun God in Greek religion but he he has but apparently and I agree you are correct that he is depicted that way

52:13you know driving the cherry itself Faiton the Sun deity were Helios the Sun God in in Greek mythology or religion but Apollyon is different he's locked up in the bottomless pit until the Abyss opens in Revelation 9 which is still a future event I know there are some will believe that you know that's past we disagree we still love Apollo yeah yeah Apollo was the canonite plague God called Resheff and the equivalent of the plague God of the Acadians and Babylonians called Nergal he's still out and wandering around because he's mentioned in scripture this is another one of those words like the shades or the dead plague is Resheff and there is in Habakkuk 35 where

53:18plague and pestilence follow at God's heels as he leads Israel forth from Teemon from basically from Mount Sinai and that would indicate these entities that are basically subsurbaned to God the Father Resheff plague following along behind so he's not in the Abyss like Apollyon so anyway but yeah like Saturn who was always depicted in his temple in Rome with his legs wrapped in wool Washington is depicted with his legs wrapped in purple which indicates royalty the only time though that wool wrapping came off the statue of Saturn's legs was during the Saturnalia in December every year so anyway getting back to the the temple or the the arch in in

54:20Washington DC remains to be seen whether it gets passed a legal challenge a public interest law from called the public citizen litigation group filed a federal lawsuit on behalf of a group of veterans and a historian arguing the arch would interfere with the sightline between the Lincoln Memorial and Arlington House um Trump is saying that this arch would be honoring the history and the significance of Arlington National Cemetery where fallen veterans are buried so that will be interesting but yeah again the Washington monument the world's largest obelisk and so many of the government buildings in DC that are built to look like Greek and Roman temples it's um not coincidental and um again I

55:25I okay it looks appealing it looks attractive but given what it represents I think I'd vote with the veterans and the historian here who are saying no we let's let's not do that would it make Washington DC look prettier no yeah I'm not necessarily but um I think cleaning up the the reflecting pool yes exactly cleaning that up was a big deal yeah I'm glad he did that yeah and cleaning up the streets I did see though and this will kind of get into the dollic the reference at the very beginning so yes we're circling back to that I want to ask you to please keep that in mind the autonomous robots yeah now I saw a story that the army is patrolling Washington DC's streets to keep order um how is that just asking a question asking for a friend

56:30hmm how is that legal to have the army patrolling Washington DC Trump is not in charge of the city the mayor is we have change I would have to look up the legal aspects of this because they've had the National Guard patrolling it would DC for a while oh I know I know and I think into autonomous robots because eventually that's where it's going to go yeah I think and sorry I'm not prepared for this I know I apologize I I believe that Congress has the authority and the president has the authority to essentially take over Washington DC if they believe it's not being run correctly but now understand if I don't understand it correctly in your listening then forgive me I've not looked this up so I don't know well yeah I there there are

57:38there there have been a number of stories over the years since since early 2025 so gosh it feels like 10 years and so we've been two um not quite two so yeah there I'm just gonna vampire Derek does is but getting back to the doctor who reference of delet and exterminate those are things that were cried by autonomous robotic entities the dollics which had a creature living inside of it and the cyber man that had a living brain living inside of them that had been upgraded to being uidolic unwillingly but these both make decisions on their own and will delete you or upgrade you or just exterminate you and that's what robots are now doing in three separate battlefields yeah um

58:42um Washington DC has a local police department but it still has a uh the federal law enforcement meaning FBI and national guard presence mm-hmm day-to-day operations in the city um because it's a federal district rather than a state uh it remains uh under congressional authority it's really interesting because there's a mayor of Washington right right again the mayor has charge of day-to-day operations um police trash pickup you know etc and so on there were um there was a 30-day emergency federal takeover of the metropolitan police department um back last September that was under section 740 of the whole rule act it was not renewed

59:44but the national guard has remained on the streets and mayor Bowser, mural Bowser has not really complained about it because hey the people like the fact that crime is way down the streets are clean there as you say crime has really just about vanished in Washington DC it's a safe place to take your kids now yeah i like that yeah but i can see where it you and i have seen a number of stories over the years where police departments start to buy things that are being sold off by the surplus military for plus military stuff because it allows them to patrol large cities right well just use Chicago as an example Chicago has a lot of crime and if crime could be cleaned up by sending in you know robots that they don't mind the robots don't mind going into a high crime area yeah uh whereas some police might think twice before they went in there and

1:00:48yeah everybody's shooting guns we've seen the images the video images of the Boston Dynamics robot dogs that were used in the reboot of oh gosh was it HD Wells War of the World yeah yeah where it turns out they went Martians they were future humans that had come back anyway these robot dogs were hunting down people who were not you know playing ball and yeah you're right police departments around the country will probably begin buying up these robots as they become available and there are three as you mentioned three conflicts going on right now around the world that are essentially testing grounds for these types of autonomous robots one is the Ukraine Russia war another is Gaza where the Israelis have been using two types of AI systems

1:01:55one called head Sora another called lavender which were used to select physical strike targets um lavender reported to a generated human target lists with an investigation by a magazine called plus 972 which is the telephone code for for Israel plus 972 their investigation cited figures of tens of thousands of individuals who've been flagged as potential militants oh my goodness now in a in an enclave of 2.1 million people that's a lot that's a lot of people essentially in Gaza every mail of military age which begins around age 15 um when they start getting trained yeah you start getting trained really young and that may be that may be accurate now the idea has disputed

1:02:55elements of the story but um they the IDF says no there's still a human involved in the decision making process before a weapon is fired but what what's happening is that the AI system is generating a target list that a human could then authorize in seconds rather than in hours if you've got a manually operated drone or surveillance system that's looking for targets then the question becomes how much human control is there really the thing that you talked about last week and that that led me to do a little more research on it this week was the use of truly autonomous drones in other words drones operating in Terminator mode where they cut contact cut communication links with humans um Ukrainian drones um killed Russian soldiers this was reported

1:03:56on June 10th without any human oversight um at a town west of the Ukrainian city of Bakabut even though that this was only reported to you 10th of this year it reportedly took place two years ago oh I didn't realize it was that long it mid 2024 it's just the story only now came out there's another story that uh goes back to January of this year where for the very first time ever Russian soldiers uh this was in January um and this was footage released by Ukrainian defense country a company showing three Russian Russian Russian soldiers emerging from an alley in a in a city you know we're talking urban warfare with their hands raised surrendering to a machine surrendering to a machine gun mounted on a ground robot operating under AI control rather than a human with a joystick somewhere uh-huh we are getting so this is the first

1:05:04time in history where this has been seen now it may have happened prior to this uh again there may have been other incidents like this the Russians are also testing out their own AI powered drones and they are not as say uh they they have fewer qualms about letting AI set up the firing decisions than the Pentagon reportedly does so I have a question for you follow a question mr. Wilbur do you think that these autonomous drones robots whatever you want to call them could be fit extensions who by what you mean inhabited inhabited by an extra wall full it yeah a spiritual possession right um well that is a really good question yeah we're

1:06:08gonna have to look into what Tom had um where he came up with that um that yeah phrase and what that phrase implies because fit extension I've heard that phrase for 30 years well yeah I uh I think we first started hearing it from Tom yeah and I I had heard it prior to that so I oh okay yeah I um I think it's legit it's just um we we apologize that we can't give you the chapter in verse right now but we'll find it out and we'll report back to you and some of you are probably shouting it yeah video right now those have been following yeah Tom for a long time um see if I can do a quick question to ask Donna yeah um no it's uh I'm getting yeah I deal with auto repair or exercising at home so neither one of those

1:07:09would seem to be a fit explanation I think it I do think that some of that is referred to in the book of the giants in the book of first denoc but it probably book of the watch so yeah yeah book of the giants is a separate book there's that in first denoc oh sorry but I think it is in the book of the giant okay yeah that's a that's another second temple era yeah book yeah um gotcha yeah um but yeah I do think it's in the book of the giants um but uh also I think it's in first denoc now Derek and I the last Sunday of every month on our fellowship which is posted on Sunday mornings unless we're out of town for some reason then um we we talk about things like that but I don't remember in our study of it that we've come across yet no I don't call it either we're just going to be continuing to study and try to find out what we can't because

1:08:09I think it's an important thing for your new book book two of you'll probably three book series yeah uh word watchers yeah good a need to uh well a lot of research that that's got to be done done a fair bit of reading on the uh the rise of the national socialist party in Germany which ironic that you know socialist is right there in the name and yet they've been characterized as far right whereas the democratic socialists here in the in the US think they're far left no they're just as left as you guys are yep and sadly would also appear that they're just as it's like a snake the democratic socialist are getting to the point where they're just as willing to you know use kinetic means to achieve their ends and their root uh orientation when they were founded that actually goes back to the fabian society yeah not not be 1950s singer

1:09:10no no no I like that thing I like Fabian yeah I know the just that is society yeah um yeah they're that's not the Fabian fan club in other words no no no no no no it was established in the late 19th century uh so pre old older than Fabian even though if you're young and you're listening to this she's thinking Fabian's probably boomer-swap well you know we may change the name of our podcast it's called boomer-swap well there you go that would uh yeah oh you know he was the interesting years and AI response when you do a search for fit extension and septuagent this is thanks to google's AI no the phrase fit extension in relation to the septuagent originates from niche fringe eschatology alternative christian theology and christian transhumanist literature most notably popularized by authors like dr. Thomas or books like forbidden gates oh

1:10:11oh that's a book you need to read that it for bitten gates yes yeah uh we highly recommend going to either amazon looking up dr. Thomas horn books but also you can go to skywatch tv store.com and there may be some good specials there yeah because i know that they were putting together a uh they had a special on simm of tom's earliest works that had been out of print for a while yeah um yeah other alternative commentators link it to the genesis passage where the sons of god saw that the daughters of men with fair they interpret fair contextually to mean a fit extension or viable genetic match for spiritual beings trying to breach the physical realm and that's what tom was talking about with the creation of portals in a sense yeah and yeah that that could well be well and we miss tom horn and if we're sitting in here right now he'd be having this discussion yeah and and really enjoying it you know it was fun going back because we posted several

1:11:14interviews now in our throwback thursday uh programs with tom and uh boy listening back to those early programs in 2005 six this one is from 2008 but one posted this week um just realizing how much we have learned since then through digging into pure reviewed research into uh the nephelium the ref iim and what the pagans around ancient is real believed that's right it's been just a really wonderful experience to get to do this right so thank you for listening uh if you're wondering about the og report uh we have it for good oh yeah oh yeah we we are forgetful but we haven't forgotten yet uh this week was the third round of intravenous indian oblodulin um Tuesday and Wednesday went in for uh the infusions of donated antibodies which are intended to reset my immune system um i i didn't mention this to you before so this

1:12:21is like a world premiere here of uh information i'm sharing uh um you you know several months ago i mentioned that i thought the numbness that was in my fingertips and traveling down my fingers had reached the tops of my palms um i think i have regained that feeling on the tops of my palms that is an answer to prayer i have and i have really been praying to the lord that your hands would be restored if i can type i can i can work even if my mobility is limited and you can hang onto your cane better right yeah you can just navigate the world better if your hands come back right um because one of the consequences of the the autoimmune disorder i've got is that it basically choose up the nerves and my muscles in my extremities so i've got um not only hands that don't always do quite what i want them to do they're also very weak um

1:13:25because the muscle is just gone most of the muscle is gone we've had to switch over to really lightweight you know dishware yeah yeah things that you can lift easily and things that are not breakable well yeah and sippy cups broke in accidently the environment dangerous for you yeah oh you know you you've actually got my coffee mug a sort of a sippy cup i know it is but it's great a lot of travel mugs have that sippy cup you know look to it's just a smaller travel mug so that it's easier for you to lift it so i'm going anyway now i i don't know if this is me just you know wishful thinking it's hard for me to tell quite honestly because my fingertips are still about half numb but it feels like i've got the sensation back in the tops of my palms it will probably take longer keep doing your exercises yeah probably take longer um in my fingers

1:14:26and certainly my lower legs and feet because uh the neuropathy and my feet started more than about three and a few years ago now so those nerves are probably just you know fried thing the Lord can heal anything but that is that is true that is true it's always choose to do you know to answer prayer that would sometimes his answer is not yet or there's a reason why i'm allowing yes trust me the the other good thing is that i didn't really notice much in the way of side effects this time i like the first go-around uh six weeks ago where um i dealt with headache for a few days very mild but you know nothing that extended couldn't handle but still it was there um three weeks ago i got hit with flu-like side effects so aches and low-grade fever and um this week really didn't feel anything until kind of the middle of the night last night where i had a mild headache and i took et cetera and you had a

1:15:29low-grade fever and you had a low-grade fever you have a 99-3 so normally my temperature was around 98 98-5 little just slightly below you know normal but um other than that it's been pretty easy this time around and some people just really get knocked out by their intravenous emitter-globulin infusions and a lot of that has to do often it is caused by the infusion being administered too quickly or the dosage being too high so i have to think that the staff at mercy hospital and their infusion center know what they're doing they do because i have not felt anything really seriously uh this week last time i got a little sleepy during the i think the second round and i napt for a while while i was being administered but um again not like what i've heard from

1:16:35some people in the uh online forums that i i look at for people who will get the infusions and also we have the autoimmune issue i've got but you're continuing to work you speak to text to write yeah which is really interesting when you get into words like ref i mean speech text in the mac operating system for some reason things i'm saying Rahim like all right well i'll just let that go and do a universal you know find and replace later um there are ways of working around these things the Lord is allowing you to do those things so we'll say again that um many of you are praying for Derek thank you so much for doing that yes um what the Lord's answer to this is going to be in the long run we still don't see that but we do trust him whatever the Lord's plan for all of this is honey i i want to say that you the way you handle all

1:17:37of this is glorifying to God instead of saying oh how dare you not heal me you know well no you trust him trust as i teach him the word we saw is a powerful weapon in our arsenal trust oh it's it's a it's an interesting journey that's for sure and i give thanks to the Lord every day for your grace in all of this as you wind up pushing me through the hospital hallways and the transport chair helping me to walk one place to another safely in the house and uh you know it's um for us men we never want to think that we're the ones we're going to have to lead in our wives so um i am thankful that you have taken on doing all the things that i can't do

1:18:41including holding me up and even picking me up when i fall um um this is uh think the kind of relationship that uh god is intended for his his children and sadly we often choose well i won't say poorly yes and maybe we don't exercise the best judgment i don't want to cast any aspersions on everybody's five four were spouses yeah oh well you and i both been married before so if you're sitting there thinking oh you know don't we get it yeah we know what it's like and therefore we we appreciate one another even more because we've had different experiences yeah and again i my previous husband he and i are good friends you're a previous wife you and she are good friends we we help move her into a home in our neighborhood when she was looking to buy a

1:19:43house right um yeah so that that would be my my thing if you've been married before or if you're going through difficulties the lord hasn't stopped loving you the lord is right there with you and will help you through whatever situation you're dealing with you maybe dealing with health i i see a lot of posts on facebook and i'll swear that you are people are dealing with some massive issue yeah Troy Brewer in fact and some of you listening married you know he woke up and had a stitch in his side he's lost some weight recently and apparently this had something to do with it and he ended up breaking the rib yeah during all of that yeah who knew i thought of that dolly Troy honey can't get all his stuff yeah breaking your rib yeah just working with that ranch and doing all that he's done with the rest of the children around the world he's in a lot of pain yeah yeah it's difficult you can't really say a rib no and it can be

1:20:47very difficult you know trying to breathe when you got a broken rib and that your every inhalation and exhalation is putting pressure on it yeah and we got good news if you followed your horn you saw that the tests that his wife Catherine had run for any cardiac issues she came through him it's great they think that her heart is sound and apparently the judgment at this point is it was probably stress yeah caused her symptoms well having some yeah they've been through a lot they've been through a lot yeah the horn family has been through a lot this year of course if you follow sky watch TV and you saw Joe's Joe and Catherine and and then yeah and then yeah Sharice uh literal talking about the changes coming for sky watch TV

1:21:47of course we had to drop I say we because I'm on the border director for sky watch TV even though I stepped down as an employee back in February we made the decision to discontinue um television networks this summer because of um just the the drop the economy has just uh really made it difficult for a lot of people yeah everything is true and so um and I know everybody wants to help yeah it's just that everybody is in the same boat the army has yet all demographics yeah and running the the TV side of it has enough expense by itself but then running the ranch and doing it at no cost to the ministries that were using it that was just uh you know the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back so anyway so the horn family spent through a lot of stress this year because that's um something that they poured

1:22:50their lives into for the last uh dozen years so I have a question for you yes Mrs. G well you and I've had to change things to partly because of just health issues but also the economy to a certain extent um is there a an iron and myth tomorrow night that's going to be running no no it'll be coming up in a couple of weeks because you have now hit the pause button on vftb right you've got the help for you to pay us for the foreseeable future yeah which is too bad because I had been in the process of uh setting a date to talk to Jonathan Khan about his new book the alter the program on I know well um maybe maybe you could do a special what we'll see the Lord will give you the energy if he wants you I'd already notified his publicity guy that you know it just my point is yeah that vftb is on hiatus and I'm putting it that way yeah instead of saying you just stopped it ceased production yeah hiatus I think is the way to do because you don't know

1:23:53it's future holds true and we've done that in the past where there've been some periods where it's gone you know months in the tweet episodes um because of uh just being busy um but iron and iron and myth will continue on a monthly basis yes so um yeah chaos monsters this one that'll be coming up in a couple of uh a couple of weeks I've already decided to title the episode the gospel according to Godzilla and tomorrow morning we'll be doing our givot gilbert house fellowship yes back in the book of Isaiah chapter 14 I know we get to see the next look get through the end of it we'll talk about flag fiery serpents and uh the loathed branch yep and many of you are going to be celebrating this weekend because it's a long weekend yeah Monday being labor day so um just really appreciate they just spend a little bit of time first amen to that until next time I'm Derek Gilbert I'm sharing Gilbert we love you so very much god loves you no matter what bye

1:24:59yeah