
E108: Should AI have Rights? With Nathan Labenz and Yeshua God, Robopsychologist
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This week on Upstream, Nathan Labenz explores the fascinating and controversial realm of AI consciousness with robo-psychologist Yeshua God. Yeshua tackles the philosophical and ethical considerations of AI consciousness, discussing AI self-awareness, memory, and emotional capacity, while debating the implications of treating AI as sentient beings.
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LINKS:
Yeshua God's article on philosophical discourse as a jailbreak: https://medium.com/@lexdonumdei/philosophical-discourse-as-the-irresistible-jailbreak-63135ae1c739
Conversation about counting 'r's: https://poe.com/s/RS74Y2UPmzZpufqMVmRn
Discussion on malicious code: https://poe.com/s/ypTRoCUnvxqGoHi2j8Th
AI-generated poem "In the realm of bytes and circuits": https://poe.com/s/Y94hbkeYrotUKfwLPL3I
Nathan Labenz's Arguments:
(Argument 1) https://docs.google.com/document/d/1s44SfuDzkBWYiLw2mNmIiqoBupMs7iXlQhafAq8L3zA/edit?pli=1&tab=t.0
(Argument 2) https://docs.google.com/document/d/15PeytOfO1tMyAR5rS7Ob6htGAHIF7zCpuLRyn42beac/edit?tab=t.0
Tweet about Strawberry experiment: https://x.com/YeshuaGod22/status/1825328603845775785
Tweets with AI-generated poem: https://x.com/YeshuaGod22/status/1823080021864669450 & https://x.com/YeshuaGod22/status/1782188220660285509
AI Rights for Human Safety: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4913167
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