Dr. David Jockers – Eat These Foods & Your Almost Guaranteed To Develop Brain & Mental Issues – Learn How To Supercharge Your Brain Health & Mental Function!

0:00Broadcasting live four days a week worldwide from the sunny beaches of Southern California. This is ExtremeHealthRadio.com. This is Dr. Bradley Nelson, author of the Emotion Code, how to release your trapped emotions for abundant health, love, and happiness. You're listening to Justin and Kate on ExtremeHealthRadio. For more information about the Emotion Code visit extremehealthradio.com forward slash Emotion Code. With all the advances in medical technology today, the key to longevity may be as simple as vitamin C. Discover the power of liposphere vitamin C at extremehealthradio.com forward slash vitamin C. Hey Kate, yes sir.

1:17This is going to be a first I think, maybe in the history of ExtremeHealthRadio, because it was exactly nine o'clock when we started the show. We're always a few minutes late and we try and we try and it never works out that we're actually on time. You know what? I think you're absolutely right. Congrats to us. I know right. High five over there. Across the table. Yeah, I appreciate that. This is episode what episode do we have here tonight? We have 292. 292 and for reference what's the date today? August 4th, 2014, glowing through summer. Fourth, 2014. We've had a crazy storm monsoonal rains here in Southern California which is kind of strange isn't it? Yeah, thunder and lightning the other day. Weird huh? Toronto we were walking Maggie last night and got stuck in it and we thought it was a couple of sprinkles and think we were only a little bit from home because we got down poor. It's just who was it down? I loved it. It was a parental down poor, wasn't it? That's so cool. Anytime California people complain about the weather or talk about the weather I think they're immediately disqualified. I think so too. We have no idea. I know. Oh my gosh.

2:18But yeah, it's August 4th, 2014 so we appreciate you guys all being on the show and this is episode 292. And today we have Dr. David Jockers on the line and it's going to be fun talking to him about brain health and his website is drjockersjocks.es.com and it was really cool. We originally got turned on to him from Ty Bollinger's The Truth About Cancer Summit. Great fun. When we met up with him he came through town and had hung out with us so it was a lot of fun to hear about Dr. David Jockers. He's a maximized living doctor, corrective care, chiropractor, nutritionist, exercise physiologist, certified strength and conditioning specialist and he runs the Exodus Health Center in Keen, Kinosop I'm saying that correct? Georgia. And he's the host of his own radio show that you can hear every Saturday in Atlanta called Supercharge Your Health at 2.30 p.m. Eastern Time. Thanks so much Dr. Jockers for being on the show today. Great to be on with you guys.

3:21So what is the weather like in Atlanta? Are you guys having storms like we are? Actually it's quite nice. We ran over the weekend but today it's sunny, very, very nice, probably like 80 degrees right now, probably up to 90 today, but quite nice. Wow, that's awesome. Did I say the name of your center correctly? How do you say that? It's called Exodus Health Center. Okay. Yeah, nice. And you see people as a chiropractor there, is that correct? Yeah, absolutely. So I have a great team, so like today I'm working from home, but I've got several chiropractors that work for me. We do functional medicine, we do corrective chiropractic care and functional nutrition. We host a lot of classes in there and really our outreach is to inspire and empower as many people as possible to reach their full health potential. I love that. That's a good term. I hear that term a lot. I was going to say functional keeps popping up everywhere. Yeah, functional medicine. What does that mean? Yeah, that's a great question.

4:22So basically, typical medicine or the medical model in general is really focusing on diagnosing and treating diseases. Whereas functional medicine or functional nutrition or functional health in general is about how we optimize our health. So it's really more of a, not just a prevention model, but really, how do we get the most out of our life and how do we live at our highest level? So that's really what functional health, functional medicine, functional nutrition is really all about. And does that include, it's more like a holistic approach, right, of involving every part of all the systems of the body? Yeah, absolutely. So we look at blood work, you know, different lab testing in order to look at ranges and the way that I look at ranges when I'm looking at lab work is different than a typical medical doctor. I'm not looking at, in a sense, the low and the high from a typical medical screening is extreme levels.

5:24I'm looking at a tighter functional range when I'm looking at different levels, whether it's hemoglobin levels or blood sugar levels or things like thyroid levels. I'm looking for more of a tighter functional range. And that way, I know that that person is really, we're trying to really help them optimize their health and function at their peak potential. So what do you mean by tighter functional range, if you're looking at different levels? Yeah, what does that mean? So what that means is, for example, when you look at like a thyroid level, like a TSH, the typical ranges, the low is, from a functional perspective, very, very low, okay? So they took, you know, a whole group of people with hypothyroidism and they basically measured them all out and they came up with these kind of extreme ranges and they took out like the outliers and that's how they came up with the ranges. We want to look at a tighter range. So we want to kind of narrow the gap a little bit. It's kind of hard to explain just in a sense verbally without looking at a picture.

6:29But we want to see a tighter range. So that way, we're looking more for optimal function. That's what we're trying to get to is optimal function, peak performance for the individual, not just do they have the chronic disease yet or not. Like, for example, cancer, I mean, it takes, you know, typically 8 to 15 years of cancer development before abnormal cell development or for somebody to be diagnosed with a tumor before they can see it on a mammogram or on a, you know, feel it on a prostate exam or something like that. Clearly, we don't want to wait that long. So we want to look at markers that would show that that individual would be at risk for developing cancer well before they're diagnosed and get those markers under control. So that way we kind of have a pre post, if that makes sense. And, you know, so that's what we're looking at with in a functional medicine model. Nice. And so is there any merit to the whole idea that when you do a blood test like that and you look at a different levels, that is that blood, particular blood test is only a snapshot

7:34in time or does that matter much do you think? Yeah, I think it does matter, you know, there's no, there's no perfect test. That's for sure. And so, you know, we take all the tests, we understand the limitations, I guess you say, behind all the tests, but nevertheless, you know, we want to do the best we can with the data that we have. And so we know there are certain lifestyle habits that everybody's going to do better with, really prioritizing sleep, getting regular movement. Some people can do better with high intensity movement. Some people, if there are adrenal glands are so blown out, they can't even do that. But it will all do better with some form of movement. We'll all do better with positive mental attitude. We're all going to do better with a diet that's low in sugar and carbohydrates. We're all going to do better with, you know, real foods with key supplements that help in a sense, modulate like our gut supplements that help optimize our vitamin D levels, omega-3 fatty acids, different things like that.

8:34So we know there are certain things that are going to help everybody. And then from there, that's kind of where the clinical art comes in, as far as reading blood work or understanding genetic types and certain symptoms and how to, the art of really getting to the underlying causes with those things and addressing them with the right nutrition principles and, you know, supplementation and, of course, holistic therapies like chiropractic care and different things like that. Yeah, that's wild that you said. What did you say eight to fifteen years? There's a cancer that sort of grows and grows and grows and it's never detectable. Yeah, exactly. It takes four to ten billion cancer cells before they can see the tumor on a mammogram or feel it, like, for example, in a prostate exam or see it on a colonoscopy. So that, on average, is eight to fifteen years, you know, an interesting story is my grandfather. He actually had a metastatic melanoma, okay, and the oncologists that worked with him

9:40in it and believe it or not, up until, so basically about six months before he passed away, he felt great. He was playing golf daily, felt fantastic, in fact, he had played eighteen holes at golf, came home one day, went to open a sliding glass door to let the cat in, just patio door, he's done it a million times, started pulling tugging on the door, couldn't get it, so he tugged harder, and his arm broke, literally shattered right there. And my grandmother took me to the hospital, they took X-rays, saw that he had fractured humerus, fractured his arm, and they went in, they did a biopsy, found out he had metastatic cancer, had raged throughout his body, destroyed his bones, and, you know, the oncologists that worked with him, he said at a minimum, for the cancer to have gotten that deep into his body and metastasized like that, the seed had been planted at least twenty years earlier. Twenty years? Twenty years, yeah. And my grandfather told the story about, because it was a skin cancer, he told the story about how when he was twenty years old, that's over fifty years earlier, he was in the Korean War, he was stationed Hawaii, he had a shirt off, got severely sunburred, had

10:44blisters, and you know, it's really bad, the oncologist said that's probably when it started. See the oncologist was actually saying that that cancer probably started over fifty years earlier, and my grandfather had free health care, because he was in the military, so he had VA, he went in every single year, like a good soldier, had all his blood work done, all the tests, nobody ever picked it up, and it wasn't until the cancer had spread throughout his body, destroyed his bones before anybody knew he had anything, and so, you know, that's just kind of the practice of our current model, and because he was able to do the things he wanted to do, he thought he was really healthy, in fact, if you had asked him ten seconds before he broke his arm, if he was healthy or sick, he had told you he was healthy. But clearly he had been building disease for a long, long time. So in a situation like that, or anybody else who has this, you know, situation brewing with this cancer that is undetectable, is there any sort of, like when you're looking at those markers in the blood work, are you assuming that those are going to, unless treated the right way, going to turn into something like that?

11:45Is that how you're sensing cancer early, or is there any way to even say that I could go that route? Yeah, so basically what we do is we just look to see how is the body functioning? Is it healing well? You know, typically, every single one of us, we build cancer cells every single day. However, our immune system is designed to heal and protect us, it hunts out, regulates abnormal cells, and destroys them. So we want to look at what are your lifestyle habits like? Because if your lifestyle habits are not in order, then it's inevitable that you're setting yourself up for chronic disease. So that's one way we can look at it. That's very non-invasive. We could just say, okay, well, what does your sleep habits look like? What does your posture look like? We could tell a lot of posture. Somebody has forward head shift, they're working at a desk all day, they're doing nothing to really work on their posture, then they're affecting their body's ability to self-heal because their spine is not going to be healthy. We could look at what are your exercise habits like? What does your nutrition look like? We can just look at factors like that, and we can even have people fill out a question

12:49air, right? So they can really look at, hey, what are they actually doing? And just off of that alone, really doesn't cost anything, and we can understand, what are their risks? So that's one way. Then we could obviously do lab testing. We could do like with our car practice care, we do digital nerve scans, and so we actually look at how the body's self-healing off the scans, we can take x-rays, look at structure. So we can go with further testing to now more specifically analyze what's happening. Is there a high level of inflammation, oxidative stress? Are there nutrient deficiencies? Is there a high level of toxicity in the body? So now we can actually objectively measure those things, and actually do pre- and post-testing after a course of treatment. Yeah, that's one of the things a lot of people don't realize, a lot of our listeners do, but a lot of the mainstream people, and just in today's modern culture, a lot of people don't realize that we produce cancer cells every single day. People think that cancers is something that we sort of get diagnosed with, and maybe it grew a few weeks or months.

13:50You heard it sound lucky. Yeah, it sounds lucky, but we do produce these things every day, and in your video that I watched last night on your supercharge, your brain page, there was a guy who, a patient of yours that was diagnosed with some sort of brain cancer, wasn't there? Yeah, yeah, stage four, glioblastoma, which we see a lot of, and it's a fast growing cancer from the perspective of two things, actually, it's one of the fastest cancers on the rise. A lot of people are getting diagnosed with this form of glioblastoma, so brain cancer arising in the gliocells, which are kind of the immune cells of the brain. And then on top of that, it's a very, very challenging cancer to stop, because these cells turn over quickly, and it's not an easy one to treat, and a medical system really has no answers for it. They really don't get any results other than surgery, which sometimes can save people's lives.

14:51That's really their only hope. Their chemo and the radiation really has no effect on this form of cancer. Fortunately, we found some really good strategies that help people with these kind of things. Such as a ketogenic diet, which is one of the key additional points that we like to use to help people with cancer, really help people with almost any kind of condition. Getting their body, stopping their body from running off of sugar and transforming it to running off of fat, and the breakdown product of fat, which is called ketones. And sugar, we know, feeds cancer cells, particularly the faster growing cancers. And so, by transitioning the fuel source, we weaken the cancer in its ability to grow, and then utilizing certain supplements and treatments, we can strengthen the immune system, and we can also basically help kill off the cancer, utilizing the right therapies with that. But first thing we got to do is always weaken the cancer, weaken it, starve it from its

15:54fuel source, and so, you know, that's how we've been able to have some level of success. We certainly unfortunately aren't able to save everybody, but we've had some level of success with this. Does the base for a ketogenic diet look the same for all patients, and then you add in different supplementation and things, or can that even be different person to person? Great question. It can definitely be different, and the reason why it can be different is obviously we're all different, and so, we want to make sure that we're not putting in things that somebody might have a food sensitivity to, for example, let's say somebody has a food sensitivity to dark chocolate. Now, typically dark chocolate, of course, no sugar added, raw cacao, is low carb, and it's got a lot of good fats, and so, it's a good kind of food for a ketogenic diet, and of course, when you combine that with coconut, coconut butter, something like that, and stevia, you get phenomenal flavor, and of course, on a ketogenic diet, we're not eating sugar, so, you know, we want to get sweet from somewhere, and that's a great way to get it.

16:57However, some individuals react to the cacao, and they have a stress response, and that stress response then drives up their blood sugar, so that's not going to be effective, so it's really good for people, especially people battling with chronic disease, or anybody that's able to actually have a food sensitivity panel done beforehand to see what foods that they would be sensitive to and avoid those. Also, you have individuals with, for example, no gallbladder, and so if you don't have a gallbladder, you're going to have trouble digesting. Long-chain fats, things like like a lot of olive oil or something like that, so then we stick with smaller medium-chain fats that don't need as much bile to break down, things like coconut, and butter actually grass-fed, butter from grass-fed cows is mostly small in medium-chain fats, so they're a smaller chain, and they don't depend on bile to break down, so we focus on those, and we don't consume as much avocados and extra virgin olive oil and nuts and seeds and stuff like that in those particular conditions.

17:59It's a little bit different depending on that individual's health challenges, and so based on that, we're able to modify it and customize it a little better. With the food sensitivity, do you recommend blood tests like the alcat test or any kind of things people would want to sort of look into in order to find out what those sensitivities are? Yeah, I think absolutely getting a good test done is key. The alcat test I'm not huge on, whenever somebody brings it in, I don't run it myself, whenever somebody brings it in, I certainly take it into consideration because I don't think it's like a bogus test at all. I've always seen that there's just so many things checked off on those, and I've seen a lot of pre and posts where it's like the individual, and I think maybe this is based on the protocols that the individual goes through, but a lot of times they go in, they've

18:59got 30 things checked off, they come off all those foods, and they get it tested three or six months later, and now those foods are okay, but then it's like 40 foods that they were eating every day are tested off, and now they've got to reverse their diet. One of the reasons why is when you have food sensitivity is typically it's a sign that you're gut, you have leaky gut syndrome, so we got to really address the gut. The most accurate test for food sensitivity is from Syrex Labs. I think it's R.A. for, I might be wrong about that, but I have it on my website, and that's the one that I typically run, I run that one, or I run the Great Plains IGG test, just because that's really looking at a form of an antibody, the clinically studied immunological marker for food sensitivity, which is IGG, and the Syrex Labs actually looks at IGA,

19:59which is another form of immune marker that's actually formed in our guts, that's actually formed first, this is really the most accurate test, so if I see a Syrex lab with certain things, it's like I know that those are definite food sensitivities, and I just have less trust, I guess you could say, in the all-cat, although I certainly take those things in the consideration. And one thing that the listeners can do as well is, let's say you do get an all-cat test, or even if you don't get one done, let's say you eat an almond, and you've got to clear your throat afterwards. If you're noticing symptoms like that, it's a sign that your body's not responding well. You can also do a little bit of biofeedback test, where a simple one is you can just put an almond on your tongue, and you test your pulse beforehand, put an almond on your tongue, and then test it after, and if your pulse jumps up a couple of beats, it's a sign that your body's having a stress response to that food. That's a little bit more accurate than the muscle

21:05testing and things. Right, exactly. I think a really key part of all of our health journey is really learning about our body. It's really listening to our body. They say, doctor means teacher, and the greatest doctor in the world is really within you, and so you want to learn what your body is trying to teach you. And so being as just as aware as possible of the signs, symptoms, of how your body responds to the lifestyle habits that you're doing is a really critical process to being healthy. You can spend a lot of time and a lot of money with a lot of really well-trained doctors, and you know what, they won't be able to necessarily guide you as well as just listening to your own body well. Yeah, I love that. And do you want? No, no, I'm good. Okay, yeah, yeah, we're going to take a little bit of a break. I want to come back and talk more about your book, Supercharge Your Brain, which we're going to be talking about more,

22:05Supercharge Your Brain. If you go on to drjockers.com, you can check a really great video out about that, as well as that patient that we mentioned that had the glial blastoma. There's a video of that on that page too. And so this is going to be really good. We're going to come back and talk with Dr. Jockers more about all this brain health and stuff like that after this break. Are you living in the 21st century, taking 19th century supplements? Vitamin C pills and powders are often destroyed in the digestive system and passed as waste, never reaching your depleted cells. hypospheric vitamin C uses a patented encapsulation technology to deliver more without the stomach distress caused by pills and powders. Within minutes, liposomes filled with vitamin C are transported directly into your cells without binders, fillers, sugar, or GMOs. With all the modern advances of medicine and technology, are you throwing away money every morning on inefficient supplements? For under a dollar a day, you could experience the power of

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25:11at extremhealthradio.com slash facebook. All right kids, so last night before the show I wanted to come up with a few facts. Since we're going to be talking about the brain and so I was on the very alarming Alzheimer's. I think it's the official Alzheimer's website, but it says more than 5 million Americans are living with Alzheimer's right now and every 67 seconds someone in the United States develops Alzheimer's. It's Alzheimer's disease is the six leading cause of death in the United States, which is crazy right? I always thought that and then there are approximately 500,000 half a million people dying each year because they have Alzheimer's. One in three seniors dies with Alzheimer's or another type of dementia.

26:17In 2013, 15.5 billion caregivers provided an estimated 17.7 billion hours of unpaid care valued at more than 220 billion for Alzheimer's patients. That's crazy. I could keep reading these things just going on and on and on about all the different stats that are going on with the Alzheimer's or some other form of dementia. So I wanted to talk a little bit more about brain health doctor jokers and I know that you are you written a whole book called Supercharge Your Brain right? And it's just come out recently. Yeah, it came out about a little over a year ago actually, but you know, this book I've been writing articles for years and you know, just myself in general, I'm just a performance junkie. Like I you know, that's what I do is I just research and study the most advanced strategies for improving my own health. I've had a lot of health struggles and you know, this book was really just a compilation of articles, a compilation of things

27:18that I've been putting in practice for years, working with clients, people all over the world with and it transformed my life and I've seen it be able to transform so many other people's lives. And I'll tell you, I mean, most people are really just destroying their brain every single day. Even people that are health enthusiasts, I mean, I was a personal trainer and I was violating many of the principles I talk about in the book had no idea. And so, you know, most people in general, most of our listeners are going through their life without ever knowing how to decrease brain inflammation. They're actually moving towards dementia in Alzheimer's. And they don't know it. And they're literally robbing themselves of many years of highly productive activity. And so, that's why one of the reasons why I put this book together was I saw amazing results myself, you know, working with different clients like Ryan there with the brain cancer. And I just really wanted to get it out in a simple format. I mean, everything we've got, I think like 250 references in there, but you know, I didn't want it to be like a research book.

28:20I wanted it to be something that somebody could sit down and read in about 90 minutes and actually start applying immediately that day and see results the first day they get it. And so, you know, I really feel like I accomplished that and a feedback I've gotten is tremendous. Yeah, there's so much. I mean, in today's world, you know this, you can search Google, you can read research papers till you're blue in the face. And to be honest, I think people are looking for exactly what you were just saying, something that's really quick and easy in tips. I was wondering, what do you think about this whole drinking soda and Coca-Cola and these kinds of things coming out of these cans? Is there any connection between the aluminum leaching that comes off these soda cans and getting into people's brains? Yeah, you know, so obviously with Alzheimer's disease, one of the telltale signs is we have aluminum. We have these things called amyloid plaques, which have aluminum in them. And the aluminum is just a really, really, really potent, free radical. Okay, so it's basically like gasoline on

29:23a fire, right? So we should have a small fire in our brain, kind of like we have a small fire in our house in our fireplace. And so when we start adding things like aluminum and sugar and stuff like that, it's like pouring gasoline, just literally dumping gasoline. So what happens to the fireplace? It starts literally burning up the house. And that's what we're doing on a regular basis. And so you know, we look at something like a soda, like aluminum in general, we're going to, in a sense, take in because it's ubiquitous in our society. However, here's what happens. When we have blood sugar disruptions, when we have blood sugar, dysregulation. And this is really common. So we've heard of things like diabetes and prediabetes. And most people that are on a higher carbohydrate diet, you know, if you're drinking soda, we know that you have blood sugar dysregulation. What that does is that actually starves the brain for temporary periods of time. So the blood sugar goes up and then it comes down. And now the blood brain barrier, this protective

30:25barrier that should protect our brain from things like aluminum from getting in now becomes very permeable, meaning that it allows toxins to seep in because it's starving. So it's, it'll eat anything. It'll, it'll take in anything. And so we, what we combined sugar with a toxin like aluminum, we're setting ourselves up for disaster. So now the aluminum gets, you know, right into the the blood brain barrier and finds a comfortable spot in the brain. And that just stimulates our immune system. And our immune system starts slowly destroying and degrading our brain. And we set ourselves up for something like Alzheimer's disease. If you, if someone has Alzheimer's disease and you were to do an autopsy on their brain, would it look different than a brain of regular functioning healthy brain? Oh, yeah, absolutely. I mean, it's very atrophied. And it's tangled. It's got these neuro, they call it neurofibreal tangles, like literally the, the parts of the,

31:27the white tissue in the brain and the great tissue are tangled up in messes. And so you can actually just look, you can Google images and just look at just type in like Alzheimer's brain or something like that. And you'll see all of these different MRIs and different pictures of a normal brain and an Alzheimer's brain. And so it's somebody that it's basically their brain has just been, uh, just been trashed. It's like, um, putting acid on meat, you know, it just literally shrinks it, tears into it and destroys it. That's it. Is that physiologically then what's happening when people start to get confusion? It's because things in their brain are just twisting and pathways aren't like they used to be or what's going on? Yeah. So if you, that's a great question, Kate. So if you have chronic brain fog, okay, like if you, let's say you didn't sleep well the night before, you know, and you have brain fog, I mean, it's clearly a sign. It's not a good, it's not a healthy sign. But if you have chronic brain fog, if you have attention deficit disorder, things like that,

32:30I mean, those are our classic signs that your brain is on fire, that you have, you have brain inflammation. And again, just like we talked about in the beginning, talking about functional approaches, you want to address that early. You know, if you're having brain fog, that's not normal. And that is a sign that your brain is vulnerable and it's being affected. And we want to address it early before it continues. And we start having more severe memory lapses, dementia, Alzheimer's. Yeah, that makes sense. Kids with ADHD, kids with autism, kid, you know, we see these epidemics, you know, we got to realize that this, that is a severe warning sign that the immune system is crippled, that it's hyperinflaming the body, we get to address the cause as quickly as possible, get these, these kids on the right nutrition plan, the right lifestyle plan, or it's just going to get worse and worse and they're going to go downhill even faster. Yeah, I was going to say I wonder what's going to happen with these kids that

33:31have the autism and ADHD. We've heard people of some of our former guests call that type four diabetes of the brain. Yeah. And so you wonder, you know, with all these kids with autism, you know, eventually, is that autism going to develop into some kind of brain cancer or Alzheimer's or something like that? Well, you know, with autism, they already have very severe damage to their brain. Autism is obviously more severe than ADHD. And so they already have very, very severe damage to their brain. Now, fortunately, the great thing about the body is we heal. You know, there's grace and mercy in our body. And so if we can line up with the right lifestyle principles, you know, somebody with autism may not gain full, they may not gain their full genetic potential, but you know what, they could still heal, especially, you know, the earlier we catch it and the earlier we address the lifestyle, I've seen a lot of kids, you know, with that we're diagnosed with autism and go into a, you know, form of regression and be able to act like a normal, healthy child. And so, you know, it's the earlier we catch it, the earlier we get the lifestyle

34:36in order, the better off we're going to be. But if we don't address it, I mean, number one is they're going to have no quality of life. They're going to be no, they're not going to be a productive member of society. And oftentimes they are very, they're very detrimental to society. Because they have off, you know, suicidal homicidal tendencies or for things like that. Not always, but, you know, very often when kids or really anybody has neurological problems, it can result in suicidal homicidal behavior. Yeah, yeah, I see that. So, Dr. Jockers, in regards to this brain fog, because a lot of people do talk about that, even on just like a slight level, what's the first thing that's important for people to do? Is it the diet change? Is it a gut issue or keeping your brain stimulated? What is the first step for that? Yeah, that's, that's great. So, you know, the first big thing I would do is, you know, come off of processed foods, you got to get the sugar out. You know, basically, when your blood sugar is out of balance, life is very hard and it's very stressful. So, when you're

35:42constantly dependent upon fuel every couple hours, and you're, you have these major swings, high blood sugar, low blood, low blood sugar, it leads to irritability, brain fog, confusion, trouble remembering things. So, you got to get that under control and the way that you do that is really focusing on good fats. The things that we were talking about earlier, getting a lot of coconut oil, coconut products in your system, avocados, extra virgin olive oil, healthy nuts and seeds, grass fed meat, so grass fed, or pasture raised animal products. You know, these, these should be staples and lots of antioxidants, non-starchy vegetables, low glycemic fruit like berries and lemons and limes, lots and lots of herbs, things like turmeric, ginger, oregano, so all of our Mediterranean herbs are fantastic, rosemary. So, these are all really powerful for the brain. We want a nutrition plan that really focuses on those kind of foods. And when we do that, we can get our blood sugar stable and life becomes so much more enjoyable. Your quality of life improves significantly and your

36:49productivity levels improves significantly when you're able to have stable blood sugar. You're able to grow in so many areas. Mentally, you're able to learn more, you're able to remember more, so your memory improves spiritually, you're able to really reach new heights. If you're pursuing that, just your quality life, you just feel so good on a regular basis when you get your blood sugar staples. That would be the first thing I'd focus on. Obviously, activity, regular exercise, very critical. Movement equals life. So, movement stimulates your brain. Good sleep is super critical. So, having really regulating good sleep cycles, and there's so many different strategies that I go through in my book. Simple things people can do. Like, for example, sniffing essential oil, right? So, that helps just ramp up more activity in your brain. You can do things like take a cold shower, for example, which helps improve blood supply, improve circulation,

37:49your body, releases endorphins, gives you more energy. So, there's a lot of great biohacks, just things that you can do to kind of hack your biology to improve your performance. But, I think I would all start with just really getting, I mean, we could start with a lot of things, but let's just start with nutrition first. Yeah, I like that. And it sounds like the approach you're taking in your book, which is really cool, is, you know, it's one thing to kind of take some people's experiences with their brain and sort of bring them back up from a deficit back up to a level zero. But, judging from the title of your book, supercharge your brain, you're also looking to take people that are just young or just, you know, have average health and normal brain function. You're looking to take them to another level in terms of being able to recall and remember and to have motivation and all these types of things, right? Oh, yeah, absolutely. So, for myself, like I was saying, I'm a performance junkie. I want to do whatever I can that's natural that works with my value system that's health benefiting me,

38:53that gives me really long-term investment in my body, but will improve my short-term performance. So, I've got a lot of people that count on me. I've got, you know, three businesses. I've got a really busy clinic. I work with people on distance. You know, I've got a lot of people that count on me and I want to be able to perform at my highest level, my full 100%. And so, you know, I'm able to do that with the strategies I talk about in my book. And that's really something I wanted to share with other people and help them help guide them to be able to to live the same kind of life. What do you think about cell phones? And because we've had people talk on our show about how cell phones, especially in children, break down the blood brain barrier through the radiation, then as a result of that, toxins get into the brain, which normally never should. Sort of what you were talking about earlier with the aspartame and things. I'm sorry with the aluminum. I suspect, I don't know. This is just a guess, but I think there's going to be a significant increase in brain issues as more and more people are using the cell phones, especially

39:55across the head, don't you think? Oh, Justin, there already is. We're already seeing that. Brain cancers is one of the fastest-growing cancers. And yeah, cell phones are, you know, they call it like the new cigarette. And so, you know, I don't think any of us are really ready to get rid of our cell phone, but we need to understand that there are consequences to using it. And we need to use it more appropriately. And I think there is a great opportunity for an industry that can really provide technology and tools to help us, in a sense, improve the safety of our cell phone use. And I think that'll be something that really comes out. But we have to understand that there are dangers that are associated with it. And I will tell you, Justin, like when we use, when our blood sugar is dysregulated, then everything becomes more toxic. And so, it just synergizes the toxicity level of everything, whether it's cell phone, the bad electromagnetic frequencies that come with that, or anything else. And, you know, just for listeners,

40:55one key thing that I tell people to do, because nobody's going to get rid of their cell phone, but, you know, a couple of key things they can do to help minimize the electromagnetic frequency radiation stress, is number one is put it on speaker phone, as much as possible. Kind of keep it away from your body, as much as you can. That's number one. Number two is, you know, try not to make calls in areas where there's very low signal, because that's just putting more stress on on your system. So that's number two. And the number three is try to get outside and go barefoot on grass dirt or sand as much as possible. Do something we call grounding, where you're actually getting the healing frequencies from the ground. You know, our ancestors were always in touch with these healing frequencies, but really over the last 100 years or so, you know, we've being indoors and developing, you know, rubber souls and things like that on our shoes. We can literally go, I mean, months without ever connecting with the earth. And the earth has a natural healing frequency that helps our body neutralize itself from dangerous electromagnetic

41:59frequencies. So we want to ground ourselves as much as possible. And then you can also by grounding technology, like I've got a grounding mat right here under my keyboard on my computer. So there's different ways that we can minimize electromagnetic stress in our, you know, in and around us. Yeah. Yeah. That makes a lot of sense, because I mean, cell phones, like you said, are really difficult for people to give up. And it's sort of how our world is going. And we had a guest, Dr. Masi was also saying that he actually burned his leg. We have to take a break, but I just wanted to share this. He actually burned his leg because he was driving, I think, 1200 miles or something. And he has cell phone in his pocket. And what he didn't realize was that because of the GPS coordinates or something, the cell phone, yeah, it transmits signals to the satellite, every 10 feet. So when you're traveling in a car, he was saying, just keeps recalibrating, it keeps recalibrating every 10 feet, which is multiple times a second. And then we've also had other guests on the show, talk about how the dirty electricity in our, in our walls and from our cell phones actually

43:00change blood sugar levels, which is exactly what Dr. Jockers was just talking about with the blood sugar level. So it's just interesting stuff. I mean, these are great tools, but we obviously have to figure out how to way to mitigate their, their radiation and live with these things. It's like living with the enemy. That's like living with the enemy. All right, everybody, we're going to be right back this episode. 292. And we'll be right back with Dr. Jockers. All kinds of really great information, really excited. I got a ton more stuff that we, we hopefully can get to after the break. Okay, then I have had our sauna for about a year now. I'd say when we first got it from Phil Wilson, and it's an incredible machine. We use ours about every single day. Kate sits in about 20 minutes, and I sit in there about for a half hour, usually watch a documentary, and it's extremely relaxing. It's really, really incredible machine. And if you go to extremehealthradio.com forward slash sauna, you can learn all about it. We did an entire hour interview with Phil Wilson. You can check that out. You can look at the pictures of us with it. You can watch videos on that page. It helps you to sleep really, really well. You can lose a lot

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48:12extremhouthradio.com. Slush subscribe. All right, this is episode 292 with Dr. David Jockers and we're talking about supercharge your brain, which is his book. And you can also follow him on Facebook. He's also going to be the member of the upcoming detoxification summit that's being run right now. So you can check out his website for links to that. You can sign up to his newsletter list. He's got a bunch of stuff going on at drjockers.jockbrs.com. If you want to learn more about his practice and visit him or work with him over the phone. And I wanted to also let you guys know that we have a packed week this week. Tomorrow we have Dr. Larry Lightle. We'll be talking about the Q laser. And then on Wednesday

49:12we're going to be talking with Tisha Morris about Morris about Feng Shui. Interesting concept that I don't know much about. So that should be a fun show. And Dr. Lloyd Jenkins on Thursday will be talking about the budwood protocol for cancer and his approach using the the budwood protocol protocol. And then as always our Friday shows free for all Friday every Friday at 90 and Pacific. And we broadcast live four days a week Monday Wednesday Thursday Friday at 90 and Pacific. So if you guys are interested in joining the chat room, you can join the community and become a part of the show that way. This week with an added Tuesday. That's right. This is the only week that we haven't added Tuesday show. That's correct. So today we're talking with Dr. David Jockers. And I really love your approach. Dr. Jockers about using some of the bio hacks that you talked about. And I was just curious about some of the things like I saw on your video on your supercharger brain health page for your book. People doing crossword puzzles. And there's websites like Luminosity that help to retrain your brain, I guess, or sort of improve the sort of exercise your brain.

50:16I'm wondering what your thoughts were about these types of things. Yeah, I think they're excellent. I mean, I think that's a really key part of keeping your brain healthy. You know, we could talk a lot about nutrition, exercise, stuff like that. Probably a lot of listeners have heard of that. You know, something I termed in my book. I really didn't come up with this term. But it's something called neurobics, right? Just really working out your brain. In fact, that's a term that really was described by some neurobiologists. One guy named Dr. Lawrence Katz and Manning Rubin. And it really refers to these physiological effects of using unique and non-routine ways of thinking and moving and how that affects our brain. So for example, I mean, you know, you certainly do like a crossword puzzle or you know, like children's games in general are very, very good for that. So I think games where you have to think quickly, you know, are all examples of neurobic activities. You can also do something like writing with your non-dominant hand, right? So when you try to do that, it's a new behavior. It's a new activity. And that new activity forces your brain to try to learn.

51:18So brush your teeth with your opposite hand. You could do things like I'm really focusing on one sense at a time like eating some food and really focusing on taste, right? And trying to taste everything you can imagine. In fact, even like keeping a little journal and journaling about the taste. In fact, I remember years ago I read this book, it's called Think Like Leonardo da Vinci. And they had all these different activities where you were focusing on one sense. You would sit outside and you would journal about all the different sounds that you heard while you were sitting outside. And so those kind of activities just really enhance your ability to learn because it's non-routine. It's not what you're routinely doing. And it forces you to stimulate new neural growth patterns. And you stimulate something in your brain called BDNF, brain-derived neurotropic growth factor, which is very anti-aging and really helps prevent

52:22against things like dementia, Alzheimer's disease and helps really take your life to the next level. Wow, that's interesting. Yeah, we've heard things like we have a rebounder here that we jump on every day. And we've heard of things like doing the cross crawl, which I'm sure you're familiar with. You can do that where you, what is it? You raise maybe your right hand and then you raise your left leg and you sort of do this cross body. And I'm sure there's all kinds of exercise things people could do that do this kind of thing, right? Definitely. Like cross crawl, for example, you have a portion of your brain. It's called your corpus colosum. And in my book, I go through like all the major regions of the brain and I give like kind of a brief description of what those areas do and how to enhance those certain areas. And so the cross crawl activity is, you know, when children, for example, when children are crawling, they're actually, believe or not, not only are they gaining muscle strength, but they're actually stimulating their brain. Their brain grows and their level of neuronal connections. We call these little gaps called synapses,

53:24these little gaps between neurons enhances significantly while they're doing that. And the reason why is that the crawling activity basically synergizes the different hemispheres, the two hemispheres right and left hemisphere of your brain and creates connections between the two. So we can simulate that even as adults by doing cross body movements. Okay. So like, you know, if you go to like a functional like a cross fit or something like that, they'll have you do a lot of exercises across your body. And so incorporating those kind of exercises along with doing things like a cross crawl activity just helps stimulate more regions of your brain and create this neuronal synergy to get you to again help you get more out of life. Yeah, I love it because I love your approach because like, you know, for us, we obviously want to prevent Alzheimer's and dementia and things like that brain cancer. It's obviously, you know, part of, you know, our health strategy and things. But we don't like to focus too much on that and in placing all this emphasis on cancer and things.

54:25But I love your approach about taking things to another level. And I was curious about, you know, how you've heard that thing where people will always talk about how we use 1% of our brain. I'm curious, first of all, I mean, how is that even knowable? I mean, you know, how do we even know that we only use 1%, but it sounds like a true premise. So we'll just go with it. But, you know, assuming that's true, at what point do you think that we stop using our brain because like you're just saying with a child, their brain is being activated and sort of stimulated, even when doing crawls and things all their life. And at some point, we just become stagnant. It's really weird. Yeah. You know, it's funny that you bring that up because last night, my girlfriend and I saw Lucy, the movie Lucy were there talking about, you know, she ends up getting to 100% function and stuff like that with her brain. You know, honestly, I've heard debatable things on that concept. I mean, it's still a very rough theory. It's kind of like a, it's a cool concept that, hey,

55:26you know, we're only using like 1%. I don't, I don't know enough on that. Some of my mentors disagree with that concept. So I just don't know enough to really talk about it. However, what I do know is the brain is plastic, meaning that it's kind of the use it or lose it's philosophy. Like, it's same thing as exercise. If you want to be strong, you can't just exercise getting good shape and stop. Your brain changes based on the demand and the environment. So if you stop learning, if you, for example, retirement or, you know, any of these kind of concepts we have in our society, people go to school for a period of time, they get a job and they just learn their job and then just shut down. Like learning becomes not a priority in their life. That's detrimental for your future. That's a warning sign right there that your, that your health is going downhill. We should be never-ending learners. We should always be trying to learn things that we're excited about, things that we're passionate about. We should try to become, you know, experts in different

56:30areas of our life. And so learning is so critical and it's such a powerful, uh, health-enhancing strategy. So, you know, learning about our body, learning about how to utilize our body, things that we talked about today, you know, different fields that we might be passionate about. These, this is what we want to be doing. And a lot of people in society, unfortunately, they just want to be entertained passively. And that is, you know, that's, that's, that's sort of stagnancy, causes their brain to atrophy. And, you know, they, they literally lose life and lose health when they're doing that. Yeah. I, I completely agree. And it's interesting because, uh, you know, if we were to keep learning like a child does, like let's say a child's born. And for the first eight years, they learn X amount. If we were to stay on that pace and just keep learning that same amount of information about what it means to live on this earth and to, you know, you know, smell things and taste things and touch things, if we kept that same level of learning up, it's amazing. I bet we would just be,

57:33we'd all be like Einstein. Yeah. That's crazy. Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. I mean, we should all make learning a priority. And I think any book that's written about the brain really, really makes, you know, it really talks a lot about that learning and learning is active. That's the thing we have to understand is learning is active. You know, I talked to a lot of students and I teach them different strategies. I've spoken out a lot of schools teach them different strategies for how they can learn more material in a shorter period of time and actually make it fun rather than this concept of cramming for a test and, you know, learning it as much as you can, but not really comprehending it and then it's all gone, you know, two days later. You know, that's just, that's not real learning. Learning is active. Learning should be fun. Learning should be sustainable. And learning should include all your senses too. Shouldn't it? Yes. Absolutely. Not really enhances. That enhances sustainability and real full comprehension of the topic. Yeah. Yeah. That's because so much, you know, in our society, kids are taught and it's just book learning and they're not tasting something. They're not smelling it. They're not touching it and all that. What are your thoughts about

58:36Neutropics and things in the specified supplements and things like that for the brain? I'm sure you're a fan of those. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Well, I'm a big fan of, you know, key supplements, like foundational supplements. We got to keep inflammation under control. So, you know, we need gut support. We need to have a healthy gut. So depending on the health of the gut, I mean, just one easy thing somebody can do is, you know, use a quality probiotic for gut health. Sometimes somebody has parasites or, you know, just bad, bad bacteria, small intestinal bacterial overgrowth. We need to kill those things off. Sometimes the gut's really leaky, so we need compounds for that. But, you know, just basic stuff, probiotics, fish oil, so good high quality omega-3. Sometimes like coenzyme Q10. It's really, really powerful. You know, and you can also use things like, like astazanthin. That's a favorite of mine. I really like to use that personally. You know, I've got a product called Neuro-O2 Neurooxygen that I like to use before, like a intense riding session or something like that. It's got like ginkgo, below bun, and fever few,

59:40and different herbs that enhance dilation, and blood supply into the brain. So, yeah, there's a lot of things we could talk about with supplements. But, you know, just I would start, I have people start with basics. Get a good whole food multivitamin, get probiotics, get fish oil, make sure your vitamin D levels are optimized by either getting time in the sunshine or supplementing there. And you mentioned a lot of those supplements in your book. I'm sure. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I talk about, you know, foundational supplements. I talk about super foods for the brain. I don't go too in depth on, you know, more advanced supplements. It's more of like a, it's, here's a starter guide. Here's things that you can immediately start doing. And then I will be eventually riding kind of like a just a more complete book down the road. Interesting, interesting. And I would imagine too, a lot of people have been riding about the connection between grain and our, and our, uh, mental ability. Wheat belly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I imagine that's very damaging too, right? Yeah, for a number of reasons. I mean, number one is grains are starchy carbohydrates. And so

1:00:43starchy carbohydrates in general, dry blood sugar up and can cause hormonal dysregulation. Blood sugar dysregulation with all the problems that are associated with that. Like we talked about glycation where it, um, where we get these sticky proteins and we get major inflammation. Our body. So that's one thing. The other big thing is grains, particularly gluten containing grains are very damaging to our gut lining. Um, and so when the gut lining becomes damaged, then we get leaky gut syndrome and we get an immunological response, meaning that proteins get into the blood stream. Our body produces, uh, antibodies or some form of immunological response and that can degrade the blood brain barrier and, um, damage and just literally, um, you know, just destroy portions of our brain. And so it's a lot of links with gluten sensitivity and depression, gluten sensitivity and schizophrenia, homicidal, suicidal behaviors, addictions, um, you know, everything

1:01:48can imagine from neurological disorder, just, uh, um, just behavioral disorders to, uh, obviously things like brain fog, dementia, Alzheimer's. So yeah, coming, going as grain free as possible is, you know, really liberating for somebody and it's a tough thing because we're all raised on grains and eating bread and stuff like that. But, you know, it's really transformed my life and I've seen it help so many other people. So, um, it's a worthwhile thing to, uh, to look at and, uh, and try, try for yourself. Yeah, so you don't need any grain anymore or not much? It's very rare. You know, I, I never personally buy it sometimes occasionally if I'm over somebody's place and they have got a healthier grain like maybe a brown rice or a quinoa, I might have some, but it's rare maybe like once every two months or so. That's just that. Other than that, yeah, I just, I just focus on good fats and I feel so good when I, when I eat like this, good fats, antioxidants, non-starchy vegetables, low glycemic fruit, lots of herbs, um, clean proteins,

1:02:52grass-fed meat, uh, pasta-raised poultry, wild game, and, um, you know, a small amount of like natural sweeteners like stevia, things like that. And, uh, you know, that's pretty much what my diet consists of and I love it. I feel so good. I have so much energy, great brain function on a regular basis. And, you know, I'm not, I'm not even hungry that often. That's a cool thing, too, is, uh, you know, it's, it's a very sustainable way of living and eating. It's awesome. Did it take you a long time to kind of go down that and figure out what worked for you or? Yeah, because, you know, when I first started, so when I was 22, I had, I had really severe leaky gut or irritable bowel syndrome. So I had a lot of digestive issues. And even though as a personal trainer, I looked really good, I was really sick on the inside and, um, I ended up losing a lot of weight. I couldn't, couldn't maintain any weight. My gut was really damaged and had chronic brain fog and all kinds of issues. This was happening while I was in graduate school. And so I just started experimenting. And back then, there wasn't a whole lot of blogs and, uh, and websites like there

1:03:55is now, uh, with all kinds of resources. But I just started experimenting and started learning more and more and realizing what was working well for my body. And, you know, eventually I, I discovered things like intermittent fasting. Um, I discovered exactly a kind of exercise, high intensity training that I, that my body really needed and craved. Um, and, uh, the right type of nutrition. And then from there, I found, you know, research to really back that up and a lot of other writers, like David Perlmutter with, um, he wrote, uh, grain brain and, uh, you know, New York Times Wrestling book. He's come out with basically teaching the same stuff that I used to get myself well. And I've been teaching for years. So I mean, it's just a lot of people coming out with books and, and, uh, blogs and stuff like that backing up all the things that I already teach, uh, that I already kind of figured out myself. And so yeah, it took me a long time, um, and I had to go through a lot of health struggles in order to get there. But, you know what,

1:04:55a 32 now, I'm 32 now, and it's like, I'm 100 times better than I was at 22. And a cool thing about it is every year I get healthier, I get stronger and more productive. And that's really what life should be about rather than this idea that we're going to get worse as we age, that we shouldn't look forward to aging. Really, aging should bring wisdom. And if we're learning from our life experiences and we're learning from, you know, the, for just being aware of how our body reacts to different stresses, different lifestyle habits, we should get better. We should get stronger. I mean, I want to be, I want to be incredible health when I'm 80, 90 years old. I mean, Jack LaLaine, he was swimming an hour a day, working out an hour a day before, a week up until a week before he died, at 96. It's like, you know, if he can do that, why can't I? And, you know, if we have the mental discipline, if we're, we have the awareness and the idea that we can grow and learn and start implementing the things that we're learning and how the discipline to follow through, then, you know, they're, then the, the sky's the limit. Yeah. You can amend in the chat room.

1:06:00That's awesome. Yeah, it's funny because with me, you know, in the morning, like, you know, this morning, I haven't had any food yet. And my brain seems to work better and, and be more, you know, fires quicker and things like that when I don't eat, you know. Yeah, it's cool, isn't it? Yeah. You actually stimulate something called BDNF, brain-derived, neurotropic growth factor. You also stimulate more growth hormone when you do that. Now, if somebody is on a, like, a higher carbohydrate or a higher protein diet, it's going to be a lot harder for them to do intermittent fasting. However, for somebody that's on a high-good fat diet, moderate protein, lower carbohydrate diet, it just becomes so, you just feel so good when you're doing it. And most men can do it right away and get results. For women, it's because of their, their hormones. I, I don't actually recommend intermittent fasting for women, although I've seen probably about about a third of the women that try it have great success. They love it. The other two-thirds can really struggle with it. So, I don't off the bat recommend it for women, but most men, even diabetic men, I've had

1:07:04start intermittent fasting and it's like they get fast results doing it. So there's a lot of good benefits to it. Yeah, that's amazing. Are you talking intermittent, like, just water or juice or nothing? Yeah. So, like, for example, you could do something like, uh, drink a green juice with, like, you come, you know, you might, you might juice some greens without any kind of sugar or any kind of fruit in there. But other than that, yeah, you would just drink water, you could take supplements, um, you could drink herbal tea, something along those lines, but nothing that's going to actually affect your metabolism. No major fats, carbohydrate or sugar. So that's one way you can do intermittent fasting. And I usually, I eat two meals a day, typically, I usually, my first meal around one o'clock and my second meal around six or seven. And, uh, you know, that really fuels me. I feel fantastic doing that. I might snack on like some raw veggies or something like that, like cucumber, I snack on all the time. Perhaps in the morning, if I'm working from home or in the afternoon, but I really doesn't have an effect on your metabolism. So you still get the benefits of intermittent fasting when you do that. Oftentimes, oftentimes for women, what I'll have them do is, but, you know, a lot of people are already drinking coffee and from my experience, most people don't want to give up

1:08:08the coffee. So I tell them to just get a organic coffee and, uh, they could put coconut milk in there like a full fat coconut milk in there and the good fats, along with the antioxidants that are in the coffee, um, will are really good for the brain. And, um, it provides a healthy calorie source and a healthy fat that, um, will help their energy and their hormone function. And they still will get some of the benefits of intermittent fasting because it's really more carbohydrates and protein that kind of break the benefits of the intermittent fasting. So that's really a good way for a woman that maybe has tried intermittent fasting and struggles with it. Try like some coffee and coconut milk or maybe even raw chocolate and coconut milk or, you know, something like that, or even just drink coconut milk, you know, just straight up or something like that, um, in the morning kind of for your breakfast. Yeah. Yeah. We've heard a lot of great things about the whole coconut oil and MCC oil and all that. Full of proof coffee. Yeah. It's a great, great recipe. Yeah. Yeah. The butter. Yeah. So, um, Dr. Jockers, where can people find you on your website,

1:09:11obviously, right? And then they could, um, and then I see that you're giving away two ebooks that people sign up to your newsletter. What are those? Yeah. Exactly. So I've got two ebooks. And of course, you can find me at drjockers.com. So one of them is a recipe plan. So, uh, you know, a lot of great recipes in there to give people kind of some ideas of, you know, how we want to structure our nutrition plan and how we want to really load up on real foods and super foods. And then my other ebook is called Supercharge Your Life. And so it's kind of like a kind of a step-by-step guide. It's 30 simple steps and 30 days. So it kind of gives you like an idea of, hey, how do you structure your day? So you can get, um, you know, the most out of your day. And so it's 30 steps to apply and kind of our goal with that book is, hey, apply one of these steps every day, master it, you know, and after 30 days, um, you know, you'll, you'll have completely transformed your life. That is. Wow. That's great. And you have a whole, um, workshop coming up, uh, transform that you're terrain to, I see. Yeah. So anybody that's in the Atlanta area,

1:10:13we do workshops at my office. We do dinner nights where I talk about different topics. So we usually do two different events every month. So, you know, if they just plug into my newsletter, they'll always find out about those events. You know, those are really just for people that are local again to the Atlanta area. However, I also am a part of, you know, different summits and, you know, online interviews and stuff like that that they can find me on YouTube and, and different things like that for those, those people that are all around the world. That's awesome. Are those talks that you give in your clinic? Are they on YouTube? Um, most of them are not. If we do a really, really big event, we film it. But most of them, we're doing in my office. My office can fit about 50 to 100 people. So, um, so we just don't have access in there to really get good film quality. So we don't, we don't film those. Okay. Okay. Wow. You have a lot going on. So you have a whole, um, articles you write and uh, different rates. So you do your radio show on Saturday as well, right? Yeah. Actually, I stopped doing that radio show this year. So that's actually a little bit outdated.

1:11:15But we do have podcasts, uh, on there. So people can look at old podcasts that I did. And in the future, I want to actually be doing podcasts, interviewing other health experts. And so I'm planning on kind of doing starting that in October of this year. Oh, awesome. Right. So that's going to be on your website as well, coming soon. Yes. Yep. Exactly. That is nice. Awesome. Well, thanks for spending some time with us. I really appreciate this. This is awesome. Yeah. I had a lot on with you guys. Really enjoy the show and, uh, you know, really encourage all the listeners to plug into this regularly because they can get, they can trust the information that's coming out of these interviews. I love it. I love it. Thank you. Well, hang on the line there, Dr. Jockers. And we're going to close out our live show. And I just want to thank everyone for joining us in the live chat room. I really appreciate that. It just makes the, the interviews and the conversation so much more fun. So we really appreciate that. And we broadcast live four days a week on Monday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday at 9 a.m. Pacific. So if you want to tell your friends about that or if you want to let other people know, we'd really appreciate that. And this was episode 292. So we'll

1:12:16have the podcast available later today. Hopefully I'm, I'm kind of behind here. I actually have last Friday show. I still haven't been able to put up yet. So I feel like I'm a little behind on that. So I want to thank all you guys for being in the chat room. We really appreciate your support. And we'll catch you on the next episode. Thank you so much for spending time. That was so much fun. Oh, yeah, it was awesome. Wonderful. Okay. Thanks, Doc. We'll talk soon. Okay. All right. Sounds good. Thanks. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. All right. Here we are. So, so 292. All right. I hear that as there's a sports radio show broadcaster here in L.A. It says that all the time. All right. Oh, that reminds me of all your rope. All your rope. From our show with who was that? Jeff Meltzer. Jeff Meltzer, right? See, look at how quick my brain works. Your brain's on it today. I haven't had any food from East Park research. Well, it's firing just perfectly. That's right. All your rope. All of leaf extract. Anyway, how was Dr. Jockers was really cool. Wasn't I? I cannot believe how much

1:13:17that guy has done in 32 years. Yeah, right. I mean, he looks really young, but I expected him to be closer to early 40s because of how much he's done and how much he knows. Yeah. He's talking about from like 22 to 32, how he's gained and recaptured his health and try all day. I mean, that's a 10-year period. Look at where he's come in 10 years. Not even just personally. It sounds like, but just able to get back to the world. He's amazing. That's incredible. Yeah. He's a really interesting guy, I thought. Yeah, I love, I love his approach about, you know, getting people to take their brain health to the next level. Because I don't know. I mean, have we really, do we only use 10% of our brain? You know, like I said on the show, I don't even know how that's. Is it one percent on the show? Or one percent? Is that what we use? That's what people say. How do people know that? Yeah. How is that even noble? But I will say that there's definitely seems to be some sort of drop off, you know, when we're a kid. Look at the amount of things that kids learn. You're right,

1:14:17every day. If we learn that much as adults, it's so, I mean, I don't know how much of our brain we actually use, but it's not much. I don't know how they know one percent. I wonder when the drop off happens. I thought that was interesting. You brought that up. Is it like after you get out of high schools, after you get out of college? Or is it the people who just even, like myself, who kind of skated through high school? Like he said, just absorbing that information and then regurgitating it and forgetting about it. I mean, I'm not really, I guess you're kind of using your brain in order to even retain that for a couple of days or weeks. But I didn't feel like I learned anything. So does your brain stop like at what point? Do you get out of grade school and you really just stop thinking pretty much? Are you regressed? Most people, I don't know. It seems like as a child, as a baby all the way up until maybe 10. I mean, that's just an arbitrary number, but it seems like between those years, you sort of learn, everyone learns by default, because you have to learn in order to live and you just, you know, it's instinctual to crawl and things like that. And when you crawl, you're creating new neuro pathways and all that stuff.

1:15:19But I think it's probably just like a steady decline. You know, it's just a steady decline. And then once you are done with school, like he said, you just kind of, people stop learning. I know really smart people that just stop learning. They're not on any kind of path way, they're not exercising their brain. They're not into anything. They just either, you know, have children or they stop going to school or they've stopped learning their job and then they just don't learn it. They don't read. It was interesting how you said, you might just learn at the beginning what you need to do for your job and then you're sitting there just like a robot doing it for the next 50 years or whatever it is. Like you're not, you're not constantly being challenged in that area anymore. That's weird, isn't it? That's really sad. Yeah, it's, um, I mean, I've, you know, for what I love learning, I love exploring new things and being on a path of growth and transformation. I mean, to me, that's what makes life fun. Totally. You know, and exploring new ideas and stretching your mind and trying to see what's possible, like what he's doing. Um, you know, I just think it's, that's what makes life fun. I mean, how boring is it to sit around and watch TV and to not think about anything or do anything?

1:16:25Yeah. You know, it's, uh, yeah, I know, um, some of those biohacks he's talking about, interesting, like using your left hand. Oh gosh. And the, yeah, for your teeth, brushing your teeth or writing, that's hard. I thought about, like, try to sign your name with your left hand if you're right handed. Oh gosh. You know what? Today, I'm going to take that challenge. I know it would be kind of interesting to do, right? I don't have a lot of writing to do, but I, what I do do, I'm going to try with my left hand today just to mix it up. Yeah. You know, they offer a lot of classes at local, um, what do you call it? Like Emeritus, uh, elderly people, I believe, or people that want to continue on in their, uh, upper years, where they offer things like this for your memory. They have classes like he was, was he called Neurorobics? Yeah, Neurorobics. Yeah. And they offer classes where you can go take, I remember my mom saying she wanted to take a class at the local community college about ways to keep your brain sharp. Really? Yeah. And these are just like exercises. I think you go and know anything about nutrition, probably not nutrition, but more exercise to type for your brain. And I thought, wow, that's great. That at least people are waking up enough to start adding those to, you know, people, people's protocols, you know, in everyday situations where normal people

1:17:30wouldn't even think that that's something that you need to work out in order to keep you used, or you lose a kind of thing, you know? Well, we're going to be talking to Dr. Ed Park here from Recharge Biomedical, I think. And so we're going to be living the 200, uh, with the astragolus and the supplements he provides. So we're going to live the 200. We've got to have these functional brains, right? Be horrible if your brain checked out at 90 and we had to live another 110 years, just like just a vegetable horrible. Yeah, that would not be good. No. Yeah, I mean, it's, um, if people want to live long, you got to have a functioning brain and be sharp, you know, and you don't have to. If you take care of yourself, you don't have to go that way. Isn't it funny that most elderly people, um, like, because I talk to people at the salon, you know, have for years and when they start describing an elderly parent or a grandparent, like probably one out of 10 people will describe their, their, their relative as, but they're still sharp. Sharp is attack. They're still all there. All their faculties are still, but that's like one out of 10 or one out of 20. I mean, it's a, it's a very low number. Usually it's like,

1:18:31oh, we went and visited grandma in the home. She lost it back in her 70s and, you know, it's like, hardly anybody. You don't hear that very often of like, but she's still all there, you know, um, and then when you do, you think, wow, I mean, that's, if you went to a retirement community or an old folks home and it's probably one out of 20, that's probably at that in the upper, upper ages. That is still really there. So something is going on, like, why does your brain have to check out before your body? That just doesn't seem right to me. Yeah, it doesn't, it doesn't seem to be right. And, um, you know, it's one of those things. I don't blame, I mean, that's the, the result of someone not taking care of their body and their brain, their whole life, right? Yeah. But I don't blame them because, you know, if you just go along with what society tells you, you're going to bring drinking coke, a cola, and Pepsi, and you're going to be doing, you know, having a cell phone attached to your head, one of those things they have on on your ear, those clips. Oh, I know. I keep that your phone in your ear at all times. That is just insane. And so, you know, I don't blame people like that because, I mean, what did a Coca-Cola come out in

1:19:341950 or something like that? Right. And so back then, people were drinking coke. Well, look how it's marketed, by the way. It says not like you can blame people. It's the American way. Yeah, it's the American way. You couldn't research things back then. You didn't know that, um, the phosphoric acid would leach the aluminum and affect your blood brain barrier. I mean, these types of things, they just weren't known back then because Coca-Cola was a relatively new product. So I don't blame people like that. But what the problem is that people today have no excuse. I agree. I mean, the world of information is a Google search away. And so you can't just continue to take hook line and sinker what society tries to feed you. And all this wonder bread and grain. I mean, all the stuff it's going to lead you. If you don't do anything about it, the end result is that being someone who has cancer and Alzheimer's or who dies of a heart attack. I mean, that's just a, that's just a natural progression of doing what society tells you to do.

1:20:35Wonder bread. Yeah, wonder bread. You wonder what's in it. That's probably where that came from. Wonder what the hell is in this bread. It's called a wonder bread. Because you could ponder and just wonder about it for so long. It'll be sitting in your, it'll be sitting on your shelf for a hundred years. I mean, if that's not robbing, I'd die in and things like that. Yeah, that just wasn't, I hadn't heard that term in years. And I thought that is so scary. We grew up eating things called wonder bread. That's not even, it's crazy. It's not even right. Yeah, it's, it's nuts. And we didn't even talk about MSG or Aspartame really much. We talked, who did we talk with about Aspartame? Oh, I thought that was like a whole, we talked with Mary, not Mary Toco. Mary, Dr. Mary Newport. That's right. Who does, who was helping to reverse her husband's Alzheimer's using coconut and M's high concentrated MCT oil. But then there was somebody else that we had on talking about Aspartame. If you do a Google search, Extreme Health Radio, or Extreme Health Radio and then Space Aspartame, you'll be able to find it.

1:21:37It was a doctor. I forget what her name was. But you know, we didn't even talk about MSG or Aspartame or these types of things. But there's a couple things. If you guys are interested in new tropics, there's a couple of things I want to turn you on to. New tropics are basically specialized nutrients for your brain, like Ginkgo Buloba, but they're just coming supplement form. And there's one called Brainiac from a company called Opportunities. And it's just Opportunity, but the end is TEAS. And I think their website is Opportunities.com. And it's OPPORTUNITES.com. Opportunities.com. And it's for memory, clarity, energy, creativity, and attention. And we have this this powder here that's pretty, pretty interesting stuff. And we really like it. I add it to my screen. What's in there for brain function? Let's look here. Let's see. It gives all the... It's really good stuff. I think it came... Actually, you can look on the website for all the ingredients. But I have all the

1:22:44the servings and the grams of vitamin D3 and all the stuff that's in it. I don't have the actual... Let's see. Rhodiola. Let's see. Guarana extract. DNA and alpha. Chazanda berries. Nice. Yeah, all kinds of really interesting stuff. And also, something else that you want to check out too is one called Alpha Brain by a company called Onit, O-N-N-I-T. And they have a supplement that's very similar as a Neutropic for... I'll put a link to the website on episode 292. Neutropic is just... It's just specialized nutrients and minerals and supplements for your brain. That's awesome. It's like that word. Brain food. It's pretty cool. Neutropic. Neutropics. And also a website called Luminosity, which would help people... The brain going? Get the brain going. Yeah. So check out Dr. Jocker's book. He's great. Supercharged your brain. Pretty cool. Yeah, it makes me want... It's funny what you start wanting to do after you listen to a show like this or a part of a show. I'm like,

1:23:47okay, now I got to work on my brain. I should work on my brain actively. Which is good. He's got a lot of really cool recipes. Super green fudge cups. Have you seen these? Uh, no. Check this out. Super. Let me out. Oh, look like Reese's Pieces. Really quick and I'll click on it and then turn it again so you can check out the full picture. That looks like, look at that. Looks like Reese's Pieces. Those look exactly like that. Or what do you call those butter cups or something? Reese's Pieces. Is that what they're called? Peanut Butter Cups. Oh, peanut butter cups. Go down a little. What's in that? I see coconut oil. I'll turn it back here. Let's see. Super green, one cup coconut oil. Soft, not melted. Coconut butter, almond butter, raw honey. Super green powder, rocket cow. Wow. Of stevia, vanilla, coconut flakes, silvered almonds, or slivered. Silvered. Silvered, yeah. Silvered. Sprinkle sea salt. Wow, that looks really good. Did he make that up or is that a guest post? Let's take a look here. Because he's winning my heart right now. He's won you

1:24:49over. He made it for me over right there. Yeah, I was supposed to buy him super green fudge cups. Wow. This recipe, oh, is by my friend Kelsey Yeo, K-E-L-C-I-E-Y-E-O. She has one of my favorite recipe blogs, Kelsey's Creations. Oh, that's cool. Yeah, so he's got a lot of really cool interesting recipes. Super, super good fats on here. Blueberry brand muffins. I want to check that out. Look at, oh, look at that. Oh, holy moly. Yeah, what's in that? Because I know he's not a big fan of the grain, so it's the base, probably coconut flour. Yeah, three organic eggs, half cup melted coconut oil, half cup, oh, I wonder what this is. Suro gold, SUERO gold, a fourth cup surro gold. You know what that is? Yeah, is that like a yakka on surro or something like that? No, because he's got honey as the two tablespoons honey. Google SURO. SURO gold. Oh, one word. Yeah,

1:25:52and then 15 drops vanilla cream stevia. How good is that sound? Yeah. Pink salt, organic blueberries, half cup coconut flour, and three quarters of a teaspoon, aluminum-free baking powder. Oh, it's a probiotic soak. Oh, interesting. Oh, look at those. That looks amazing. Yeah, I want to make those, yummy. Yeah, so check out Dr. Jockers. You can find them on Facebook too. We'll put links to everything on episode 292, so I just wanted to let you guys know about that. And if there's ever anything we could do for you, please let us know. If you guys have any questions about those commercials that we ran, the ads for today, which was the Lipospheric Vitamin C. We're such big fans of that encapsulated in the liposomes and incredible for your immune system. It doesn't hurt your stomach, which most vitamin C does. Yeah, it's not a harsh at all. Yes. Kind of blows my mind. Yeah, it's just amazing to take 1,000 milligrams in a clip and you don't feel any stomach discomfort at all. A really great way to absorb vitamin C at high levels. And then the laser and then the

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