Dave Wannstedt doesn’t think Kyler Gordon will play for Bears again

0:00Laila Rahimi, Mark Grody, midday, 10 a.m. to 2 on the school. Kyler, are you convinced he's going to play for you? I don't know. I would hope so. I still have hope there. He's going to have to continue to work hard and get back to Blanford book. Yes. You and I just both looked at each other. Nothing has changed, really. Other than optimism, right? Optimism here says in Rappaport as Kyler Gordon works out with a personal trainer hoping to get back with the bears. Yes, but Dr. Moe, which I do think you can do good stuff with personal trainers. The training assignments do help. Physical therapy and rehab does help. Even if you're not injured, it helps prevent injury, by the way. So all of that is good. But as far as how we feel about this, I don't know that I've changed much. He's estranged from the family. I want to have optimism so badly that I have probably more optimism than most people,

1:03but that might be taken away from me based on what you are about to hear. And you are listening to Rahimi and Grote. You're also listening to a four seasons heating, air conditioning plumbing sewer and electric football Friday presented by your local Ford dealers and advent as we get ready for the bears and Carolina Panthers. All right. Here it is. The latest round or the latest opinion on the Kyler Gordon sitch from Dave Wonsted of all people. Dave Wonsted was an Patrick Manley with Lawrence Holmes and Carmen Vitale yesterday gave their thoughts on the Kyler Gordon situation. I think he's done. I think he's done. I think. I'm predicting he's going to come back and say I'm okay to play and he lasts a week or two, either the injury flares up or something. But I don't think this guy's going to play anymore. I really don't.

2:03And that's the case fine. I mean, look at our center last year, Dolman. He came out and just said, I've had enough. That happens all the time in the league. But I don't see it happening. It's just my opinion. I don't know any I know less than anybody. And I could see that as well because I was see Ben Johnson saying, hey, don't break up my locker room. Yeah. I think he's done a heck of a job of building out locker room for ease of this. They all have the same message, all that kind of stuff. And if you have an outsider that's, you know, was breaking that up, he's going to say, goodbye. I'm in year two. I'm building this thing. Yeah, you're a great player when you're healthy, but you're not good for the team when you're here. So I can see that as well. And you know, another point in patches brought up something that started me thinking. When I was at the Dolphins in Ricky Williams decided to take a sabbatical and go smoked up in India, it wasn't it was bad enough that he was 65% of my offense. But you know, it was the real kind of the breaker for the team or the distraction.

3:08The media all they want to do was who talked to Ricky? Anything new on Ricky? Ricky? Ricky? Was crazy. They didn't care about talking about the team. How the quarterback was doing? Or how's that? You're a receiver doing or whoever? They wanted to just what's going on with Ricky? And it was a distraction for our football team. And that's kind of what Pat's a little to her. Exactly. You think about every day on the state on the score and TV, the collar Gordon conversation comes up. It's part of it. Who wouldn't want to go smoked dope with Ricky? I love the convention, the conviction with which Dave wants that said that. I actually kind of prefer the point that Patrick Manely is making and I buy into it a little bit like the idea of... Oh, not one. He triggered from previous experience. Well, no, no, that is all salient as well. But the idea that he's right, like the way Ben Johnson has comported himself of what he has said every time he has been asked about it says that he's disgusted.

4:10He wants nothing to do with Kyler Gordon. And as Patrick Manely just said, quoting him, don't break up my locker room. That makes sense. The part that Dave wants that was saying, I don't know if I agree with like, is it a Drew Dahlman situation where Kyler Gordon wants to retire? And the only reason I push back on that is because of the way Kyler Gordon plays football. And maybe that's part of it because he's kind of a reckless player out there. A physical player, a guy who plays with exuberance, a guy who plays like he likes football. I don't know if I buy into that part of it. I think... I know what I'm talking about here. Yeah, you do, you do Dave want to stay. The low key part of that that's really funny that I didn't hear on the first listen and laugh about was, where won he goes? It was bad enough. He was 65% of my offense. Back in running backs was 65% of offense. That is fantastic. Oh, it was so good. Well, you could tell, like that's just the, the vein of his existence. And, you know, I actually had a conversation with Ricky Williams' mom.

5:11What? I want to say it was around 2010, maybe 2008 or 2009, somewhere in that area, about Ricky kind of being ahead of his time. When it came to him talking about the discourse surrounding marijuana and the use of it, Ricky was a, I mean, he was a different thinker. And maybe mental health too for that matter. Absolutely mental health. Now does that change how Dave Wants Den has to view a player's attitude or the communication that happens during a time like this? I don't know, but just as a sidebar, I did have a conversation with Ricky's mom about it one time just talking to her about he was, he was, even then, he was ahead of his time. Well, what did she say? Like, was she like, she was just receptive to it? No, she was like, he's on, he was saying, she was saying he was honest. And you don't get honesty like that. That's true. And in a corporate NFL, you know? Yeah, but isn't there a responsibility of the employee to be more communicative and to like as a number, wasn't Ricky number one overall pick?

6:11I think he was at least top three, I would say. Man, when he was on the scene, there was nobody like, yeah, I mean, as an employee though, isn't there a responsibility to work, especially when you're that important and not be a distract? Okay, fifth overall pick is what we're confirming about Ricky Williams. So, I mean, I get it. Like, if there was, if there was mental health issues, but I do think that there should be some responsibility for on the player. I wasn't really thinking about it from that perspective because I was in Austin at the time and I just thought, you know, here's a guy who's talking about stuff in a way that you just don't hear from professional athletes. That was my observation. I wasn't really thinking about the responsibilities. I was at work that day, so I was doing my part. Well, exactly. I was playing my, well, you post up. That's what I was saying. I was a $30,000 year with no overtime employee. I didn't really have much of a choice in the matter. I needed the money to, you know, live my life. I love those hilarious conversations about us and the business talking about how little money we made. Yeah, I started at 18 and worked 60 hours a week when I, when I actually, it was lower than minimum wage with no OT, but that's another story for another day.

7:14Are you grinding it out? I did. I did. When I heard this initially, I was shocked that coach said that the way he did. Yeah. That's, Nwani doesn't usually go off the cuff like that. Right. When it comes to a thought about a player. No gray area. No, he wasn't like wishy washy about. He did use the disclaimer that he doesn't know anything. He hasn't talked to anybody, but. But he, but he picks up on the way people talk about people in a way that's different to us. And again, we're not getting anything that, that shows us a different side of why it could be different. We're not getting the alternate opinion about this. We just keep getting more and more evidence that isn't solid on the part of his future. Even I know Ian Rapp report post to that, but it still means he's away from the facility. Yeah. No, then that's, and you're right. Ultimately, that's not good. I, you know, stand by it. I did see that as a sign of life at least because I had been imploring on the microphone for Kyla Gordon to do something to defend himself in some way, shape or form, to give the,

8:15the, at least the idea that he's interested in coming back. Like, it seemed like such a simple thing. I know people have been like, oh, Ian Rapp report is a shill for him. No. You go to these reporters to get your message across and that's all I was asking Kyla Gordon to do. So there, I had, I did get some satisfaction from that. I, I think it's kind of like when you talk to Montess sweat, by the way, Montess knows his stats better than anybody. But the fact that you guys had a conversation where there was an acknowledgement there, yeah, wait a minute about the media when I talked to him, you just talked about it. Yeah, just the perception of his production based on his contract. Yeah. It just brought us a really honest look at somebody where I now give them more of the benefit of the doubt. Interesting. Yeah. It's just, and it's not, the problem is, you know, the numbers dictate a lot of the numbers and then, and then salary goes in hand with production and all of that. But it was nice to see. And I think Kyla should know that that's the same idea. People want to hear from him because right now the only people talking are not helping or cause. Right. Right. And that's why I again gave him the opportunity when I saw him in the locker room that, that

9:20day, do you have a side to this? Please? Can you give your side because it's a one way, like we had a texture saying, like he's just getting beat up on. He is. He is. It's completely one sided. And that is the bizarreness of the whole situation where it, to me, it's unprecedented where I, where bears management, bears coaches have all said, we don't know. Feel, you guys know, ask all the questions you want, say what you want on your microphones because we don't know what's going on with this guy. And I've never seen anything like that before. And so to have a sign of life from Ian Rapaport is something I wish he would talk to one of the, the local reporters, I wish he had talked to me, you're politely declined. I don't want to paint the picture that he was demonstrative. He just, he said he would talk eventually, but he didn't want to talk when I put the microphone in front of his face the other day or the last week. Additionally, we're doing this because we want to hear your side of the story. Yes. And that's, like, this isn't a gotcha. We're giving you the opportunity to speak for yourself. So there's that. I have some breaking news. Would you like it?

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