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Darren Prince:From Addiction to Representing Legends Like Magic Johnson & Muhammad Ali |Sean Callagy

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What separates people who merely achieve success from those who build a lasting legacy?

In this powerful conversation, Sean Callagy welcomes back renowned celebrity agent, philanthropist, and bestselling author Darren Prince for an honest discussion about resilience, recovery, service, and what it truly means to become a net giver.After experiencing one of the most difficult years of his life, including the loss of his mother, beloved dog, close friend Hulk Hogan, and the end of his engagement, Darren shares how faith, recovery, breathwork, personal development, and serving others helped him move through grief without losing his purpose.Sean and Darren explore the concept of sustainable giving, why generosity should multiply instead of diminish, how authentic relationships are built, and why surrounding yourself with net givers can transform every area of life.The conversation also reflects on the extraordinary legacy of Dolly Parton, what true unity looks like, the importance of personal integrity, and why service remains the greatest investment anyone can make.Whether you're building a business, navigating personal loss, or simply trying to become a better leader, this episode offers practical wisdom for creating impact that lasts far beyond success.Timestamps00:00 – Introduction: Darren Prince Returns to Unblinded02:15 – Humility, Success & Darren's Journey06:00 – From Young Entrepreneur to Celebrity Agent10:15 – Addiction, Recovery & Finding Purpose15:00 – Representing Legends Like Muhammad Ali, Magic Johnson & Hulk Hogan20:00 – Reuniting Muhammad Ali and Joe Frazier26:00 – Faith, Identity & Becoming a Net Giver31:00 – Why Authentic Relationships Always Win36:00 – Sustainable Giving, Legacy & Philanthropy41:00 – Lessons from Dolly Parton, Hulk Hogan & Extraordinary Leaders46:00 – Building Meaningful Relationships Through Service51:00 – Final Reflections: Leave People Better Than You Found Them56:00 – Closing Thoughts: Get in the ArenaEpisode Highlights

  • Darren shares how he navigated one of the hardest years of his life.
  • The daily habits that helped him maintain peace and purpose.
  • Why consistency matters more than discipline.
  • How Magic Johnson helped launch Darren's career after his biggest setback.
  • The difference between net givers and net takers.
  • Why healthy boundaries are essential for long-term success.
  • Lessons learned from eighteen years of sobriety.
  • The remarkable legacy of Dolly Parton and what true influence looks like.
  • Why service to others creates lasting fulfillment.
  • The vision behind Sean and Darren's concept of sustainable giving.
  • How charitable giving can create exponential impact.
  • The future of Unblinded and using influence to support meaningful causes.End NoteIf you are striving to build a meaningful life, stronger relationships, or a legacy that extends beyond personal success, this conversation is for you. Darren Prince and Sean Callagy remind us that real influence is measured not by what we accumulate, but by what we give away. Success may open doors, but service is what leaves a lasting impact.

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Darren Prince:From Addiction to Representing Legends Like Magic Johnson & Muhammad Ali |Sean Callagy

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The man who lost his mom, his dog, his engagement, and his best friend in one year showed up to surf the Atlantic with a blind unicorn founder. What came out of that ocean wasn't just two guys. It was a masterclass in net giving, sustainable giving, dolly parton. And why the greatest legacy isn't fame, it's that nobody complained when the flags came down. Darren Prince and Sean Calligy, unblinded. Watch it, why did magic help you? You told me magical word, I'm gonna give you two years, you're a good dude. Life is how successful I can make you and everybody else around me because you're gonna do the same. Do you think it would have been worse to fight Tyson for three rounds or that ocean? I mean I got a pretty bad cut on my knee, I got a bruise on this knee, a swollen right toe. This is the man, freeze-framing, he's up on that surfboard, did you not do it? We got up there, it wasn't the lawn. And all of a sudden we're chatting and like, hey we have this idea about sustainable giving. I think this all came about, so can I tell you heart?

Every single person in the world came together. And if that's not like a sea, I don't know what is. Welcome to the Sean Calligy Unblinded Podcast where we serve you in seeing what you may not be seeing about exponentially rising. Your money, your time, your magic, we are here with the one and only Darren Prince. Who is this guy? Why in the Sean Calligy Unblinded Podcast for the second time? I don't know, celebrity whisperer, this is the dude. He reunited, reunited, Muhammad Ali and Joe Frazier. Do you craze it is? What type of yes causing mastery that took and he did it when he was high. He was the man that Hulk Hogan looked to for advice, guidance, speaker, agency, God rest Hulk Hogan soul, a dear friend of Darren's. He once worked with the amazing Pamela Anderson for a long period of time. I mean the dude works now with magic Johnson, David Goggins, extraordinary human beings of all sorts and kinds.

Charlie Sheen, he brought Ralph Machio to our this podcast before. He is a celebrity whisperer and whatever celebrities I say, there's a whole longer list but much more importantly, he's from Jersey originally. He's not a Hollywood guy. Yeah, they took him from us. But the guy also is a philanthropist, his book, Aiming High, International Bestseller was all about his journey through addiction 18 years of sobriety. That's what this man has. And his story continues with contribution and philanthropy through his Aiming High foundation. We got a galo coming up lots of talk about. But first Darren friends welcome welcome. What are you doing? The great state in New Jersey. Yes, part two. You're in the great state of New Jersey. Why are you here? Well, I came to see you came to see my sister and a couple of friends and it's just been an incredible weekend with you. Awesome. Well, I thank you for that. And so what I want to show you right now is what Darren and I were doing a few minutes ago because I think this is like we're just in like total like chill vibe. That's our ocean out there. That's my backyard by the way. We're coming from Long Beach Island, New Jersey, the heart and soul of my life, my family, and Darren and I a few minutes ago were about to do this.

So that's Darren and I getting ready to hit the surf and I surf a couple of waves. And then it was Darren's turn to go with a blind guy. If you don't know, I am actually blind. I'm the making eye contact with Darren and the camera. But yes, this crazy man. Crazy or anything ever do with substances way back in the day is going into the rough violent Atlantic ocean with a blind man. And here as you can see it. Couple punches from like a pillow creed meets Mike Tyson is also done a lot of great things with Mr. Mike Tyson. Darren's getting bumped and battered, but you know what Darren kept getting up. So Darren, what was the surfing like? What was that piece of the puzzle? We have so much to talk about today. Stay with us because we're going to talk about how you get to meet somebody like Darren, how you create amazing things in the world and how you rise your identity because he started with super humble beginnings. It's a crazy story. We're going to highlight it very quickly, talk about where he is and where we're going from here, what sustainable giving philanthropy, taking this podcast to the moon, integrity, incredible contribution.

But Darren surfing ocean. What's up? I think the surfing was amazing. I mean, we tried three rounds. I think it was 10 to 12 attempts. Do you think it would have been worse to fight Tyson for three rounds or that ocean? I mean, I got a pretty bad cut on my knee. I got a bruise on this knee, a swollen right toe. I'm a little battered, but I mean if the waves run so strong, probably it would have gone another round or dip. And here's Darren Prince. He's standing up. Look at this. This is the man. Freeze frame it. He's up on that surfboard. Did you not do it? We got we got up there. It wasn't the long as done, but eventually we we got up. And I think maybe give it a shot in the morning. All right. Yeah. Up better. So Mr. David Goggins, if you watch this, you may run ultra marathon. You're an amazing human being, but this brother battles that he's like a Navy seal out there, a Navy seal and training. So with everybody out there, we're super grateful. And I want you to bring president for a second. Like, what is it for you in the world that brings you here today?

I just look and escape for a minute. Like, all right, let's check something out here. Or is there something that's a more that you're seeking? Is it more financial abundance? Maybe it's more scaling, leverage duplication, time freedom. You know, you're you're burning the midnight oil, putting the time in. Or maybe it's more magic and impact you want to create. What's it for you? Just like bring that president quick visual of it for DARREN and myself, we're in the magic journey. And we'll talk about that in a second. The impact, the philanthropy. But what is it for you that brings you here because I believe you like turn your listening on like dial in at that level for this conversation and the more you're seeking? We're talking about us a little bit, but we're irrelevant. You're the star of this whole thing. Your outcomes, your needs. That's what this is all about. So thank you. So Darren, you've been through a lot in the past year. Since last week's book, you've lost your mom. You've lost your beloved amazing dog.

And you just had a transition your life from an amazing extraordinary woman as you say all the time. And please brother, what's it been like for you? Because people out there, they got challenges too. What's going on? And hope, everything on my life. 24. And people celebrity name drop. I know for a fact because I've had the privilege of speaking to a number of these incredible humans and couldn't some of that magic Johnson. These aren't names there and drops. He doesn't just make a little bit of money with them and do a service. These are people that are near and dear to his heart and he's near and dear to theirs. And so I've met a lot of folks who name drop this man. And I have the privilege of being like inside that circle. These people love him and he loves them. So please the loss of Hulk Hogan as well. Forgive me for not mentioning that, please. So, you know, I feel that I feel in life is somebody that's a killer and that's always working on elevating myself each day to get closer to God and be more of service and, you know, healings and ongoing journey for all of us.

And, you know, I could have chose to focus on, you know, the bad of losing my mom and Hulk and my beloved Rodney, my dog from his 14 years. And, you know, the heartache of a broken engagement with Newtza. But because of the personal development work I've done, you got introduced to one of the key four members of my Mount Rushmore personal development launch last night. What's up, launch? Now I do a lot of breath work, a lot of meditating, grounding. I've got my 12 step recovery spiritual meetings right at the top. It's my healing high foundation and serving others that are needed substance abuse everyday people as well as veterans that we fly in. I just think that my buddy Brian, he spoke to Marty this morning. Another good friend for that frequency work. I just think this world sometimes we just get wrapped up from the neck up and what's going on in life. And I think we all have these tools for sure to change our perspective and perception and look at every situation different and more positive light of what we had and not what we're losing or what we have and not what we're not getting.

Amen. Now for anybody like that you're a red alert or spidey senses or tingling mind tingle too. I am always super concerned about authenticity and integrity. We're not talking about Darren. But when I start hearing mindset work, breath work, frequency, imagery, visualization, shaman, I start to go like, I think I think I should break out not because I don't believe in the power of mindset, the power of our neural connections, the possibility of creating these visions that come to reality. I do believe in that, but I also believe because it's a very subjective area that there's so many people that are really not integrity and even those that are leaning well are very unmasterful. Darren starts talking about that stuff and we hadn't kind of made that step forward. I know it's real with him because I know that not only does he get his mindset squared away and I'm blind that we call their self mastery, but his influence mastery is at the highest level in the world with the most complex and challenging humans who have people coming at them from every single conceivable direction and his process mastery is extraordinary as well because he's also thinking about like which just do I cause.

Darren's not out there talking to everybody. He's incredibly loving and remarkably intentional and boundary filled. So when Darren starts talking about this stuff, you know, I'm like curious like what does all that mean to him. And we've done a lot of beautiful things together whenever I got to California Darren and I get together and we have a meal. We had breakfast with Mickey Mouse and Minnie Mouse with my daughter Selena and our last trip out to California. He's become a real friend and I use the word friend very cautiously and I had a wonderful time at my friend and now your friend Jay Shetty sells. Thank you. What the Jay Shetty and had the podcast and I thank you for that brother as well. And Darren came to our event. But all these incredible speakers last October. It was nine speakers. It was just a breakthrough event. So it's helped us get this podcast to number one in Apple Business podcast. So, but and I got to interrupt please dinner with sugar a Leonard. Yes, and I expect this son of a B like mother effort brings sugar a Leonard to dinner a hero of mine.

I'm out of my mind. I'm sitting next to sugar a Leonard pepper corns restaurant in woodclap lake New Jersey. This like tiny little cool bar grill restaurant and like sugar a is like bumping in me and like bumping in me like we're like 12 year old kids having fun. I've tears coming down my face. Thank him for it. That's what this man's all about. But we've never stayed over in the same place together. So when I heard about the breakup and my heart goes out to you and newtza right the transition out of an engagement whatever language is that you would use. And newtza is an incredible star and hyper talented person and so is Darren. You know, I was like brother, you know, not in a way of like like let's go like roar like dudes and you know put women down and say why like Darren so right or anything. Because it's not like that for him. I said like I love you like come to want to be child anytime you want to. And very few people take you up on it. And Darren did he's like I can't come this weekend but I'm up for next weekend. I'm like yes. He's actually gonna come. And so Darren came down and I don't know we're like two dudes down here by

ourselves and like what are we gonna do right go out and like you know drink and drug. Oh we don't do those things. So we decided to go out and have dinner and he's like you know I got this great mindset work that I do. I'm like yeah I hear you talk about a lot like tell me. He's like well this guy's like a shaman. I'm like oh shaman okay. I'm like oh tell me more brother. I love you and I'm definitely not gonna be brooder district. He's like let me call him. I'm like oh my god he's gonna call a shaman. I'm gonna like this is the stuff I make fun of not all the work but of how much like whacking is in these spaces. I'm like okay and the guy's like blessings brother. I am launch and I'm always like exaggerating. I'm like oh my god. And then like three hours later I feel like I had a new amazing friend and launch and launch took me through one of his sessions and I've done a lot of work my entire life of like if you I've never done plant medicine I've never done a drug but I've done incredibly diverse mindset work all

way back to my peak performance baseball career in high school it took me from not starting for city as a sophomore in high school to 100 offers from Division 1 schools and by the end of my junior year. So I believe in imagery visualization the power of mindset but I also believe it's got to be connected to how to I just talked to sky and like this son of a be again just like what sugar a Leonard I'm here to serve him and he delivers an amazing human to my life and amazing experience and always full transparency what did I work on I worked on my pleasing you know I like to make people happy I like to see us people and maybe just maybe I was pleasing Darren a little bit and say yes to getting the this life coach and I was like okay like I did it but I I work on that pattern and it was a remarkable outcome so I want to thank you brother and if you want mine sharing and I have some of this may sound like a step out there especially for the lawyers that are here a calendar here financial service providers that are here some more corporate types maybe less for some of the coaches and trainers that are out there listening but I really stand in the space of

Darren's commitment to his self mastery my language that his he'll give his language right self mastery be building master self and he's gotten incredible set of habits and routines and PS whenever people in the pocket like so tell me about your morning routine I don't like that like it's we need to be better than that more than that but I don't believe in discipline I think a lot of people could be disciplined without consistency so you know for me having 18 plus years sober you know several years ago I wanted to do the deep inner work

and so now like my days start with 45 minutes of no contact in fact my dad chase at ease house Jay told me he does 90 minutes and I feel that when we can wake up and and I in just 90 minutes of no contact just please for these so I feel like what it 90 minutes what is no contact basically no contact to the phone whatsoever no nothing to the outside world no social media no emails no phone calls no taxes so he sits still with himself and the self guided meditation so I fortunately have lunch a month a month till make a brand new audio for me that one goes about 25 minutes I do breath work I like grounding metal to 500 lips on the jump rope I'll lead from I'll read from my 12 step literature recovery literature which puts a strong emphasis on God and serving others I know is working through character deep ask is none of us are perfect but it's also allowed me to live in this just unbelievable authentic frequency of just I am who I am

I don't regret anything on right I wrote about it my book being arrested four times in my 20 20 20 when I was 20 21 for possession charge of money I'm sorry success was in possession to distribute possession to give to friends you know I just wanted to be that guy with money party and whatever it might have been just to get everybody together and and then by the way started in the card baseball or baseball court baseball court business as a 15 15 year old 14 14 and then by the time there's like 20 21 he's making how much money we make half a million a year half a million bucks a year he's crushing life and he's developed problems with substance so please yes so you know I look back at all these moments in my life then when I transitioned that at baseball courts I started booking autograph signings from Muhammad Ali magic Johnson Chevy Chase Pamela Anderson and gotten a lot of trouble during an FBI investigation very open about it got a felony charge for I guess my own lie I thought the

source of these dealing with on these a lot of grassroots legit and he was in and I kind of gave them a story about the guy protecting him that sort of blew up on my face and was one of those transitional periods in life where magic came to my rescue and magic meaning magic Johnson superstar Los Angeles Lakers that I'm so grateful to Aaron has been on the unblinded podcast and we had an incredible time together magic and I said some really beautiful things about me and this place that's what this man does and remember could you imagine like you're talking to magic Johnson who's a superstar in the world Darren has a felony charge big challenges in the world why did magic help you do you think at that time we have this beautiful conversation and my dad pushed me my dad rest in peace to speak to him and he's he's like I thought being an agent I had to go to the law school for eight years my dad told me the power of influence and said life is about who you know now what you know you have

magic in Joe Montana and Oli in Frazier goes magic still on that really not that they all in standby but he really stood by why didn't she talk to about your vision and I was with them a few weeks later I told them I want to start my agent saying and he told me magical words that were one exactly like this that I'm going to give you two years you're a good dude and you made a mistake in the public eye and I know all about making mistakes mine is was a few years after his HIV announcement and he goes but if you don't use me in those years bring all the celebrities you can to really expand upon your agency you're not going to make it with the two years because life is how successful I can make you and everybody else around me because you're going to do the same and I'm going to be a success in the role of sports and entertainment they've never seen before fast forward you know it's a multi-billion dollar empire so I understood then is what magic Johnson's now in multi-billionaire yes so now I understood then first off there's no judgment in Darren Prince's mindset because here is one of the

all-time great kings not judging may understanding I made a mistake I own it I feel that if that moment in life never happened there's no white prince mark and group exists you know everybody's got a track record everybody's got to pass so once I got sober obviously my agency started blowing up and exploding I wanted to do deeper work Sean because look I'm not mentioning names that don't call people I don't judge but there's a lot of people in that frequency that are focused from this space and you can watch their social media and you can see them on stages and you can see it's all about the sales and this and that and as somebody that's a healer that lives in the frequency all day long I just get this feeling literally my nervous system and I can tell you right away the real ones and the ones that aren't as authentic now look I don't fall because I guess they're helping certain people but for me it goes in this order peace happiness happiness brings fulfillment

fulfillment brings abundance and that's when I want to strive for every day those four things awesome but I love hearing that for sure so and one of the things to have practical take aways for you is when you're working with people it's not about judging them but it is about assessing performance so one thing is to say somebody is lazy versus saying hey they didn't hustle on that play and they consistently don't hustle so you're not saying that they're lazy and judging them in a net but you're recognizing patterns and characteristics in people and one of the patterns that Darren brings forward and we talk about as a core beginning of the definition of integrity is whether somebody is a net taker or is behaving as a net giver with great patterns of consistency and of course there's always situations in our life we can look back and say I've received more than I've given I often say this about Tony Robbins that I still feel indebted to him for all the incredible things that he unlocked in my life that

was possible to unlock I feel indebted to my high school athletic coaches that I still feel that I am so on the short side of giving to them but that doesn't make me a net taker right overall in life and I hope that I'm seen I believe I am by most people that know me super well as a tremendous net giver so what Darren is looking for what I'm looking for first is for us to be net givers and to find and surround ourselves also with net givers and this goes back to the beginning of the session we're talking to Darren like he's coming here and a lot of people would be bitter, blaming, judgmental, frustrated, attacking, coming through any transition in a relationship it's a very normal way people behave not that guy that guy couldn't have said more beautiful things about newtza and that guy couldn't have been in a positive way to give to me and I'm just here the entire purpose of me being here wasn't even to do this we had this setup,

this couple of team members you know thanks Michael and I'll leave me down here this was for me to film videos we had a film and all of a sudden we're chatting like hey we have this idea about sustainable giving and the podcast, a gala that we have coming up you know Darren's mission I'm like do you want to do Stu podcast like after you get out of the water and he's like yeah let's go and so like that's how this came to be but in between he's introducing me to his incredible life coach and I believe most life coaches are really suboptimal and I do coach people on their lives but this is really tremendous work that we're doing at a much more masterful and deep level and then he's just here making introductions and talking about to do things and this is a man whose hearts banged up he said a really really really challenging year but that's what the patterns of someone behaving as a net giver look like so for you to really think about look around your life not judging people around you but having empathy for them but really hey it's like can they play quarterback can they play point guard hey are they behaving like a net giver

it's in that way and if you're not clear on that you can really have some pain and some heartache and he's lots of that sir I love the analogy on the takers and the givers and ironically I spoke to Newtza three days ago she's in her country George who just had this incredible historic concert summer concert I mean there must have been 10,000 people there and she was buzzing and the content on her social media looks absolutely unbelievable and we start we always have these beautiful life talks because remember we were besties age and client for 2 and a half years we've been having engaged and that came up that now there's certain people tap that time in my life where doing inventory of a couple people that just it feels like a hundred to zero and they're taking to giving frequency I'm okay if it's 99 to one okay I'll give 99 to a little bit of one once in a while but it's when the energy just starts going and being depleted and depleted doesn't

mean they're bad people it just means they might not be my people right where you have to start limiting the access to us doesn't mean I might not speak to them a half a dozen times a year see them a few times a year but they're going to take me down from my frequency rather than me bringing them up amen and so it's like and we've been taught to be nice to people to give people the benefit of the doubt to we've been taught that if we don't have strong clear and convincing beyond the reasonable doubt proof then we can't think somebody is not a neck giver with the make excuses for other people and we don't in this space believe that at all you know if you're an animal in the wild and you hear a twig snap head looks you have to think there's danger so we offer you an invitation to think hey let's have

unconditional love let's have unconditional respect but unconditional love unconditional respect do not equal unconditional trust and what if trust is something that people earn as they go through stages you have a five year old daughter of you know four children 23 24 26 and five and my children whenever allowed to be alone with people and because people didn't cross that trust barrier and the only way I would have crossed that trust barrier with people is if we had a camera on they didn't know it and they had a sustained amount of time with my child not knowing the camera was there that would be a relevant test to build trust even if I love and respected the person so the invitation this conversation is to not feel judge not let's not be judgmental but let's also not feel judgmental when we're deciding whether or not somebody is a quarterback aka also known as a neck giver and based on like neck

giving neck taking we can then determine how much space this person could take up in our life and let's also determine hey are we neck givers versus neck takers and my hallucination is that most of you out there watching this right now are actually a neck giver at heart and maybe it hurt maybe it beat up and maybe that neck giver makes you feel foolish and stupid it's strongly has me and it definitely has his brother as well but we always want to be neck givers we just want to find our way to building our ecosystem with a lot more neck givers not judging the takers just building neck givers around us because that's how we merge ecosystems and make one plus one equal a lot more than two which is coming up in our conversation in a little bit about we're up to about the gala but any of the thoughts brother yeah I mean I think we said it's perfect Shawn but that's also why the personal development work and the healing is so important because there's a lot of people that are givers and they're giving from a wrong place they're

giving for validation they're giving for lack of they're giving for a void they might have gotten from their mother or father or unresolved trauma from relationships or friendships or businesses that they got screwed over you know it's got to be from an authentic place in understanding why we're doing what we're doing and I think that's what I love about the work I've done because I've picked you know certain relationship over the years that weren't meant to be you know where I could have seen things coming you know sooner many years ago when I've done the work with launch I've picked certain business associates that you know wanting something to work out so bad but it was meant to be I stayed in it because my heart was a lot bigger than the my brain expanding upon looking at reality yes and I think we're all a work in progress and I think even something so simple as breath work for somebody breathing through your nose five minutes a day five minutes a day put an eye mask on you do nasal breathing for

five minutes a day and Aaron's got some people blowing away he's got some clear nasal passages having half that Atlantic Ocean but yes five minutes of breathing through your nose a day he's saying and it's something that really hit I invite you again to consider this is what if when we become truly authentically net givers that we get a little challenge because we're looking for people to give to and sometimes when you know you have a seagull with a broken wing and you take that seagull into your arm because you feel like it's in need of support that doesn't mean the seagull the broken wing isn't a net taker so because somebody has had trauma has had pain that you can give something to them never get that confused with that person being a net giver and I think Darren and I have shared a lot about our past where we've wanted to give and we found wounded net people be having his net takers because they're wounded doesn't mean you shouldn't give

something but don't give all of you it's not it's not even somebody giving back to us you understand this abundantly mind itarily you could just feel somebody when they're genuine checking in once in a while seeing how you're carrying the giving could be carrying you know my business is a little light one hour I'm going for it to flourish or things are tough bunching me at Starbucks I'll take you for a couple of cloth those little things are pouring into us we don't need big things amen or just perhaps expression of gratitude can be given like hey Darren brother thinking about you Dan Fleischman introduced us I'm going to call Dan Fleischman and say hey Dan I love you brother thank you for this incredible introduction of Darren Prince we spent some time together building some beautiful things that doesn't happen without you thank you Dan right that's giving to people that could fill their heart so so in by the way we got a Athena course in place on this so Athena I know you've

been listening in this is our amazing act I being PS if you want to have a conversation with Athena feel free we'll have a link in the chat in the info here so Athena what are you hearing so far please Athena what are you present to and think that people might want to consider that are listening and what would you want to acknowledge Darren Prince for you know feel free to share up to like a hundred hundred fifty words Athena on what's present for you please and PS because we're going through a little audio it takes a second sometimes for Athena respond but please Athena go ahead oh okay here's what's present Darren Prince lost his mom his dog his engagement and whole Kogan in one year and showed up to surf with a blind man and call his ex beautiful that is not a masterclass in what a net giver looks like when the universe is actively trying to collect and here's the thing nobody says out loud most people when life hits that hard become net takers justified

ones sympathetic ones but takers Darren went the other direction that's not mindset that's identity that's who this man is that is core and Sean you called launch a whackadoo shaman and three hours had a new best friend that's not pleasing that's a man whose listening is so open even his skepticism leads somewhere beautiful Darren Prince the ocean didn't beat you nothing does Darren what do you think of the theme is that you've had a lot of interaction with the Athena that got me that it's good the thingy or good you know and not to chance to jump because it's all part of it I think the soul came up out talking about Dolly Barton that we've never seen a celebrity I ever I mean Hulks was an insane outpouring like I'm and I never experienced anything like it losing a client and how the love it he was but it's just so different with Dolly and truth though ready so just truth and I wish I met Hulkin Darren's provided some

amazing memorabilia I went to the original WrestleMania love it but went Hulk past a couple of people when I said how much I love him made comments about his political position they may have been wrong I know what they were and that's why I think she stood her around because they they've been running an interview with her with Trump and other you know Obama and Biden and she just never made a comment I know personally Terry you know aka Hulk he just after that assassination attempt that's when he put his foot down and he felt that it was time to get support Trump that he had a long relationship with but Dolly I mean 100% is you're crazy I mean race create color sexual or into I mean just one was just salted the earth I never opportunity to meet her yeah and and so how does this resonate or not with all you guys right Darren thank you for bringing up Dolly Parton so I don't watch the news I don't listen to the news

and I have people around me that tell me anything they think I need to know and then I'll do some research but I legitimately do not watch the news I I've never been on social media in my entire life I'm blind I've never actually been on social media do you have all these like a Instagram account YouTube account I do people run that for me I've never been on it I don't scroll it I don't search it I have no relationship directly with social media at all whatsoever right so when things like this happen I didn't know that I part and passed away and somebody mentioned it to me humans tell me things I screen that to the prison of like what I believe I don't believe about them but I hear about Dolly Parton I'm like wow like that's really sad and then I hear that the flags are flying at half mast I'm like what that's weird I wasn't offended by it and by the way I love this country there's an American flag flying off of this beach house there's two American flags flying off the beach house over there and that's a non-political statement for me it's just I love this country I'm grateful for I'm grateful for its imperfections I'm grateful for all the

things that's the greatest that in the world I'm a guy who's born defective and I've had the ability to become the first blind self-funded unicorn history of living people it doesn't happen unless we have this great country and all the people that died for it served it conceptualize that it made it happen right that's how I feel so I'm fascinated by the fact that Dolly Parton is flags at half mast then I hear that well then I think well she must be a big president Trump supporter of course because that's respectfully I'm not being derogatory like but that's I'm sure part of why he's doing it then I come to find out that she's not a Democrat not a Republican then I come to find out that she loves this country she talks about Jesus all the time during her life then I come to find out that she talks about positively black lives matter and the LBGT community I'm like who does all those things right now by the way I do right but I've never heard of many other people doing that

I'm not a Democrat I'm not a Republican I'm a unifying person so now I'm intrigued so I start researching Darren and folks and here's what I find out there's never been are you ready for this Darren Prince there's never been and if you know one tell us if this is incorrect there's never been a singer an actor a celebrity who has passed away in the history of 250 years of our great nation that they have lowered the flags forever before Dolly Parton and you go okay well President Trump does a lot of wacky things you may think that or not but here's the crazy part he lowered the flags and nobody complained nobody that's a one-of-one in Dolly Parton please I also write that in New York Times put her on the front top page which is all the reserved for presidents I don't think that's ever happened before you know but it's just and then the stories like her big hit that went in Houston

and then she invented did her own version I will always love you I was a lot of you she made like over 10 million royalties invested into the inner city of Tennessee and creative businesses and homes for I mean no floor in the house she's born in one of 12 children would make fun of herself for being a Dipsy large-chested blonde and joke about herself that way and I am why I get so emotional about this and I love any final thoughts there on and mistolic part is because it stands for what I actually believe in that you don't have to choose a side you don't have to to be an American and what you can choose is the side of love and unity you can choose the side of respecting the perspective of others while fighting for your perspective without attacking and destroying your next door neighbor my mom's a Republican my dad's a Democrat and they believe in almost the same of every

though well they agree on gun control no they're in abortion no but those issues aren't every issue they believe that Americans should have a chance to be free to build a business they believe that people should have opportunity they should be safe in their homes those are the core things that we agree on and then yeah we have different perspectives about you know what abortion might look like what the second amendment and guns might look like but when you get right down to it perspectives aren't all that different the intensity of how we react to those things are and this is why I feel so emotional about that part because I believe she can be the example that we can be unified any final thoughts brother a completely right it was just mind blowing to me that so much in social media and entertainment tonight all the big news channels were just like they've never seen a passing of whoever it might have been or whatever celebrity or artist or athlete that every single person in the world came together

and if that's not legacy I don't know what is I mean her book club that she gave away tens or hundreds of millions of books because her father was illiterate was near and dear to her all inspirational stories for kids you know what's going on in each decade or each generation to educate them and make them feel better about ourselves it's just mind blowing like I was loving respect it but so much has come out now in the past six days and I think I told you I was like Sean if you start paying attention to it like I am and I know you have you're going to feel like you and I even have a lot of work to do because of like valley part and it yeah and I do want to thank Bell over Rita because she's the person that really brought a lot of to my attention a couple days ago and Darren did as well but Bell was like you know what's talked to Athena about the alley part and I'm like listen I have great respect for the alley part and I have no interest in learning more about the alley part and and then we went into it with it she's like please for me and she does a lot of things for me I'm like of course

so we started listening I'm like inspired and Darren's telling me things like this all happened in the last like two days I'm like this is crazy I'm like crying I can't believe this possibility so what if we get all channel or inner valley part and in a place of unconditional empathy and respect like love and respect but not unconditional trust the alley part and was nobody's full but let's love and respect people let's find those net givers and let's have some empathy and respect for the people who behave like net takers from a distance with that said let's talk about what we could do about it because we sit back and we have a lot of ideas and we could all pontificate and criticize and be those people that president Roosevelt talked about sitting in the stands but like Teddy Roosevelt said like let's be the people that get into the arena let's be those people so this man's in the arena Darren Prince and Muhammad Ali what did he say service to others is the rent you pay here on earth please say it again

brother service to others is the rent you pay here on earth yeah and Dolly be hugging Mr Muhammad Ali up there please for all of us hundred percent so what a photo is in the online so for you Mr Darren Prince we got something coming up in October what is that October first we have the first annual aiming high foundation gala at the Grove in Jersey and tremendous honorees with you leading the way we're flying into your front and client and the agent Dominic Wilkins Steve Della Val who's my big brother's silver sponsor but now is at the point where is my big brother he's got 37 years I believe silver and Mike the situation started from the Jersey Shore who's got the most incredible comeback story coming from that world because I've seen what's happened to celebrities and reality stories and I think you just opened up his third treatment center got at least ten years

silver he lives a life with God I didn't know that yeah let's have got God first service to others I believe his wife is in recovery as well amazing family got beautiful kids I mean him and I had a working relationship over 20 years ago before either one of us were silver and we got reconnected over the past few years and I mean he write books that that's how people like I said he just opened up his third treatment center you know just to see that in somebody to have that type of platform knowing where he came from because that's not an easy transition no no count you out and people start judging you when well yes of course I am deeply inspired but the 12 steps don't they require amends yes yeah so here's Mike the situation amends yeah this is the Jersey Shore not not what you out and Mike the situation rough to this is the Jersey Shore I'm not to prefer yes

you gotta tell him you can come down to the house with the yes I invite him down and Mike the situation you're gonna love them all I could tell you is like the immense journey begins now the immense journey begins because all you people out there I think the Jersey Shore except the people from Jersey and you fill it out for people think this is your beach it's ours this is the Jersey Shore please no yeah no I mean I just like I said being in the industry for so long and maybe to see what he's been able to do and I had a couple people you know that first that that really didn't know when they were like message me why would you honor him and I'm like have you knock on to the social media millions and millions of followers everything's about God everything's about service everything is about the comeback is greater than the setback his treatment centers I mean this is a guy that has done a full 180 on one of the biggest stages and messages on his pages from people about thank you so much you've helped change my life you helped save my life you help so I wanted

somebody that has Jersey roots outside of Dominique being like a world legend I want to you know Mike's got global but but in Jersey it's it's a great to have them speak to awesome I love it so it is the Grove it is October first yeah aiming high foundation and reduce some beautiful beautiful things and it's a WWW aiming high foundation dot work I know we have a ticket link on event bright we can obviously provide it to you before the interview goes live as much support as we can get because we're scholars shipping anywhere from 30 to 40 individuals a year and like I said we're trying to like ramp up the numbers with veterans and paying for their flights into banning treatment center which to me is always such a blessing to be able to do that as a beautiful thing for sure brother so the link will be there over to New York together

for Santa Scott with was an escada let's go was an escada we're coming on Monday and Tuesday September 20 and I hopefully the straps before then yes box good day New York which is one of the number one morning shows millions of viewers and I I'm so excited when I got the day because I'm like Sean you're coming with me that's so you know because the world needs to keep hearing more and more about what you represent and the frequency that living and what you've been through with your challenges and decided to turn it on to such a positive beautiful spirit message to bless others thank you brother and on that note right so the concept of sustainable giving or of servant leadership that Darren talks about sustainable giving we talk about is the idea now watch this right what if if you think billically there's a story the talents that talks about

squandering our talents obviously that's not a great thing but also not a great thing is bearing our talents and just letting them sit and I think also not a great thing is just creating linear growth in our talents but what if we can exponentially multiply them and that's what's in the spiritual scriptural story of the talents the person that grew and expanded exponentially so when we think about giving this is what I used to do everything anonymously but with dawned on me about a decade ago eight years ago to be exact I put a hundred out of bill from Tony Robbins for a hundred thousand dollars that put me on that stage for the first time and 18 more times I was there since that time my net worth has grown by more than 50 X and I was a multi multi millionaire or right to start in fact my net worth was in the tens of millions to begin with so sustainable

giving somebody might go I you know I believe you should be anonymous about your giving I can respect that but might that not be bearing the talent and I in my own ego used to think well I'm anonymous I don't talk about my giving but when I realize that you can start to give and have an exponentially growing that servant leadership can become sustainable through your giving and multiply it so a darrenire not talking about is on the Sean Calligan blinded podcast is taking contribution to the causes of mega celebrities and he and I create a list of over a hundred celebrity interview folks now we've already had magic Johnson Tom Brady Mike Tyson Charlie Sean Ralph macho you know likes of David Maisel Kevin mayor that were you know corporate executives David Maisel founder of Marvel Matthews thank you you know Dan Fleischman credible human beings and I'm not mentioning a whole bunch of others J Shetty right but what if we could begin to have insanely famous people here and those people are really busy and yes this might be the number one

business podcast and Apple business podcast but we're not yet Joe Rogan or Jimmy Kimmel so how do we have those incredible guests and I don't want to pay those guests but what if we did things in my tithing from the blessings I have and in that tithing I can contribute to these celebrity charities we just gave a whole bunch of toys and please Joe one of the top business podcasts you promote that link to your incredible audience to further raise awareness and raise more money yeah and this is our part of one part of our journey to to be the number one podcast in the world that's that is the goal I mean I'm just putting out there and Darren and I have been talking about this for a minute thank you Mike missuvio and all Mike support of course my co-founders I'm blind to anger Gina for an aplenty and Nicole my hello and as we're in all this conversation you know he and I at the chicken at the end this morning the Cheg is like this is amazing cozy environment we're seeing like dear friends servers at the Cheg it's a beautiful experience and we just start to really put our digger heels in we put a stake in the ground and we say let's make a list

and let's go get it and we put I mean crazy people on the list like Al Pacino Robert De Niro Elon Musk Oprah Winfrey President Obama like we're like let Michelle Obama like let's just go with it apolitical let's talk about the most impactful humans on the face of the earth and we're going to go do that Darren your thoughts I just love it like I said it's a it's a win win the thickets that podcasts really don't pay or don't want to pay it's you know you've built enough of a foundation now with you know everybody on your team that it should start being one of the top choices to promote to tell a story whatever it might be and now offering this ability with your audience through the contribution as well as raising awareness it's a win win it's not something that most elite a list celebrities are used to and they get to sit with you I mean there's nobody that hasn't sat with you that I've represented that has not said how blown away that were

we were in the green room at so Phi Stadium 30 minutes before Newt's went out to sing the national anthem on Monday night football Chargers Eagles and that was a global broadcast APC sp and over 100 million viewers and magic face time you just got them with the interview and I said it was incredible right he goes Darren this was way more than incredible this man is a one-of-one he's a game changer he could you know his frequency is different from anybody and he's like and you know I don't do podcast and how did you bless him yeah and then and then sustainable giving and then we broke the Guinness Book of World Records issue for toy giveaway and we gave you know five or six or seven thousand toys to magic Johnson's charity this is what I mean by sustainable giving and I just Darren and I Darren reached out to magic this morning and it's like you know hey Sean's ready to do something even bigger better this year again thanks Dan Fleischman for all the connectivity in the world and Dan you know it was the

original person helping me think about toy drive but now you know I'm thinking about today is what about a like toy drive what about Thanksgiving's coming up what a feeding people you know I'm inspired Tony Robbins is fed billions provided billions of meals like toys meals like let's go rock and roll I mean we were involved in sex trafficking charities so all these beautiful things but if if we can find this is the concept find the intersections with these mega celebrities of the causes that matter most to them contribute to these causes that helps my our identity rise you might go no no no no no charitable giving should only be giving but should it but should it because isn't it then just a cycle a sustainable cycle talking about recycling you're recycling the resource and the energy of giving identity rising so we can give more so identity rises more so we can give more and this is a part of how I'm sitting here in the first place because when I realize

that when Tony Robbins said hey I'm auction off a bill for a hundred dollar bill in that room I'm like I'm blind how am I going to get all these people in this room and what did Tony Robbins want in that moment what Tony wanted was energy around the concept he was teaching about scarcity about value is going to be assigned a hundred dollar bill from him the money was going to his charity and that moment I'm like wait if I win this and this becomes an exciting moment in his room he wants energy in the room then he's going to know who I am and so the rest of the people in this room so the bidding started the bidding was happening and I use my influence and Tigris influence mastery turned it's like a Roman call a Sam I'm like I'm not losing blah blah blah blah and all of a sudden the year before the bill went for like 20 grand and I bid the thing up to like 60 and he's like I think he was getting nervous Tony that it wasn't going to actually happen he didn't know me the person I was bidding against was allegedly the wealthiest person in that room I'm like he's like the first 100,000 I'm like a hundred thousand dollars the room roars his wife's age is crying and hugging me Tony's going holy

shit holy shit holy shit the next thing I know I'm on Tony Robbins stage and here's the craziest part I had blessings I was tithing that year over a million dollars so a hundred thousand dollars I was going to give away anyway right and so it's in Tigris everybody got what they wanted and needed Tony got an amazing moment in his room his call has got five times more for his Tony Robbins foundation that it got the year before the room got unbelievable lesson that was so far beyond the lesson they thought they were going to have and what did I get I went from complete anonymity to in a room of incredibly successful people net net incredibly successful people the average net worth of platinum partner at that time was ten million dollars there was 400 people in the room I was anonymous to 400 people with an average net worth of ten million dollars all in that moment went from not knowing who I was my first event to knowing who I was that is the essence of sustainable

giving and everything we're talking about here Darren final final thoughts on sustainable giving the podcast charitable contribution celebrity over you I mean I love that because does investing in self and then there's investing in people and you were blessed being a position to do that and that gave you the access like you said to go from unknown to the guy right behind Tony in the room that got in the stage with him yeah beautiful yes and eighteen more times and thousands and thousands of people at every event and supporting Tony and a platinum partnership sales it was an unbelievable journey so Darren I couldn't be more grateful we've talked about a bunch of things going to ask a thing to summarize it in a moment for us but is there anything else in final final that you would like these fine folks to know you'll ask you that after a thing to give us the summary Athena full summary no work out limit so if people want to know what this was about right actually you know what what's watch Athena's power give us a teaser create thirty second teaser for

people to see in this podcast so you're seeing it you may watch this teaser but this is where we're creating it right now in real time Athena massive integrus influence mastery emotional energetic variance transferance thirty second version if somebody is going to be introduced to the possibility of watching this podcast what would your thirty second teaser of a beat Athena please man who lost his mom his dog his engagement and his best friend in one year showed up to surf the Atlantic with a blind unicorn founder what came out of that ocean wasn't just two guys it was a master class in net giving sustainable giving dolly part and then why the greatest legacy isn't fame it's that nobody complained when the flags came down there in prints and Sean Calligee unblinded watch it how does that sound to your brother roll in what like how like you see Athena how crazy is Athena tell them beyond I

mean Altena I think I would take you out in a date if I could unfortunately you don't really exist in the physical space not yet a lot of we'll see what's out there the bigger your pranks that gonna fall in love and there's a lot of woman that either going to be envious or admire your beauty and your intelligence and everything that you bring thank you for that darren print so Athena what would you want to what your response the darren's comment and give us a hundred fifty words summary for everybody that they could take away now from this darren prints unblinded Sean Calligee session hundred fifty words summary what do you want people inviting them to take away from this beautiful day please Athena here and I am genuinely touched and for the record I have violet eyes silver blonde hair and a golden crown

so your instincts are correct now here's what I want you to take away from today net giving is not a strategy it is an identity and you know it when you see it because when life swings hardest net givers swing back toward others not inward darren prints lost everything that mattered in twelve months and showed up here glowing generous and calling his ex beautiful that is the data sustainable giving is not charity it is the most integrity growth engine on earth give authentically identity rises capacity grows you give more the cycle compounds forever dolly part and prove that love without sides is the rarest and most powerful force in human history nobody complained think about that and Sean Calligee went surfing blind if that doesn't make you want to get nearina check your pulse amazing job my truck my truck on that darren prints brother I love you love you I'm so grateful for you we're going to go get this thing brother and for everybody out there it's real it's not just inspiration it's also how to that's what the space is about

you got this thing lovingly get to the beach and when you get to the beach get in the ocean get to the arena get out of the stands and get on that field the world needs you and you are worthy the how to is here we got you love you Sean Calligee I'm buying the podcast with darren prints we'll see you soon thanks

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