Dan Sileo: Sean Mannion Faces a CAREER-Defining Eagles Season

0:00Let's start it with Sean Manion. This is a massive year for Sean Manion in his coaching career. He's either going to go way of Brian Johnson and Sean Desai or he's going to go way of Shane Stuykin, Kellan Moore. It's either going to be a Grand Slam or Colossal Disaster. That's what you do when you get the coach in Philly at a coordinating position. It's either going to be a Grand Slam for you where your career is going to be all in front of you or the best of your career will be behind you. Because if Sean Manion fails, they'll say because he wasn't ready for the job. Think about that. I think that he's pushing everything in for his career.

1:01I like it in a way. I like it. He's either going to have a massive impact on his football team or he's going to be to the back of the bus again. Like every other coach that's ever coached here. Hey, and by the way, the reason and one of the reasons why I've not really been all aboard with this because no first year coordinator that's ever coached in Philly has ever worked out on both sides of the ball. None of them worked out. Why will this? Why? Because how he said so? Because Nick said so? Why will it work? And you know what your response is? Well, can't get any worse. Yeah, I can. Every guy you've had that's never coached has failed and you fired. Hell, you fired Sean to sign in season. You fired Brian Johnson after the season.

2:06You demoted Kevin Pettulo. Every single guy that you have ever put in a position to be a coordinator in Philly and the next Arionni era has failed. So Sean Manion's got a lot of baggage behind him to show that he's not going to go down that lane. I don't think that you have the support system with Nick when it comes to that because Nick's not going to fight for him. He didn't fight for Brian Johnson. He didn't fight for Kevin Pettulo. You know, he may have fought for Kevin Pettulo more than any other guy. Kellen Moore. Last I check was never a first year play caller. Kevin Kellen Moore, as I said, a first time play caller in Philadelphia. Try listening, Steve. Might help you guy. We were 23rd and passing with AJ and we are better.

3:15Yeah. Yeah. Not wrong with this. Superbowl, Bout B because herch is our quarterback and the trend says we're back in the Superbowl. Okay. If the run game looks like shit again, we get ready for a long year. K.P. was ranked 23rd in offense last year. What does Manion have to do for you to call it success? That's a great call. Either how it looks or at the end of the day, how Jalen looks and wins. His number one priority is to win your ball games too, no? K.P. was ranked 23rd in the Superbowl. And put your offense in a position to win. Assuming we have a top 10 offense, run offense with a healthy old line. What are your odds on the first time play caller succeeding?

4:19Um, even if you're here and it's a great take by you. Even if your offensive line is healthy and Barclay is running the ball, what is the difference between 24 and 26? Kela Moore was an experienced play caller. He knew how to situational play call. Man, he doesn't. They don't even know if he's going to call plays from the booth or the sidelines yet. Again, any time that Reyes post anything about this upcoming season, it's theory. It's not actualities. He's never done it. In the Kevin Patuolo offense, you mean next? Jaleners still had the offense ranked in the top 10 for points per passing attempt. I will hardly believe the efficiency will bleed into the new scheme.

5:25I don't even know what that means. I have no idea what that means. If Banny was so great, why didn't Green Bay promote him internally? Spectacular take. Sills, have you seen the new regulate? Yes, I have. We're going to talk a little bit about those later. Jalen has had a top running game. He went Super Bulls. Just Jalen has a top run game, chokes in the wild card and gets all the excuses under the sun. Once again, Paul, every time you post shit like that, Alan's a better player. Sills, I'm really curious on how the Rams can afford McDuffy, Garrett, and now Donald and fit under the cap. You know why? Because they defer the money out and use Void here. It's the same way that how he does.

6:28One unit same goal from Laurie down to the water boy. In one bad apple in AJ spoiled the bunch in 25. Talk about excuses. Jalen hurts got that coordinator fired. Sills, they dig, they'll dig for any stat that dig makes Jalen elite. It's absurd. Here. How is Alan the better player when he has the same numbers as two of the past four years? Jalen's a better football player and he's the second best football player right now in National Football League. I don't care what you think, I. It's stupid to debate it. Only some illegal idiots think otherwise. Nobody on a planet. I'm not debating that. Debating Jalen hurts versus Jalen is dumb. It's beneath me. So it's Nick's offense. So why everyone blame me coaches coaching Nick's offense

7:35holds the accolades and wins and losses. Nick is the winning formula. Okay. And this is why you change completely is because of Nick, right? Okay. Well, the next accountable. Hey, Tyrod hurts. The truth is we don't know how this will look out because the other failures were hired internally. Only Kellen was an outside hire. Yeah, well, yeah. Let's see, right Johnson elevated. Yep. Kevin Patula elevated. Okay. So because he's hired outside, there's a shot. Okay. All these teams like the Rams, Cowboys, etc are going all in this year to try to win it all

8:35are going to suffer in the long run. If they don't make it to the big game, what a failure. What up sales, Bird Gang, correct? Every year is a failure for 31 teams. It's how you quantify it. Like again, the Eagles and their fan base and everyone that covers them, I actually admire it. You cover your football team like you're a 5-1 team and you won 11 and your division champions. It's quite remarkable and awesome to have those kind of expectations. Okay. Here. He's just parodying what every other sports news and talk show host has been spouting that Josh Allen is a top player and he doesn't win. He's everything around him. That's failing. Josh Allen is better football player. Pairing, you mean for the last 40 years, I've been parody? Yeah, okay. Not true. Cowboys think getting to the playoffs is a successful season. Well, that would be

9:36a mistake. Josh Allen's a better player. What do you think, Manion's offense of points for game? Be if we're assuming that defense does their job. Do it. Anything between 26 and 28 points? And if you have a top five defense, you're going to be in a conversation. Absolutely, man. I'm looking forward to it this year. Can't you can't be a jailing night without randomly hating on Josh Allen? Yeah, because you know why? That's the player the Eagles want. They still didn't put enough weapons around Allen to get the job done. Correct. Brandon Beans a horrible general manager. If you think Keon Coleman's a good pick, Keon Coleman is the equivalent of McKay lemon. Oh, wait. I got to wait and see McKay lemon play first.

10:38See here. Okay. So correct me. Who's Josh Allen throwing a ball to? Does that what football player here? I'm going to make I'll make this point to say here. Say I think you'll understand this. Okay. Hopefully you do. You probably won't. But let's see here. Let me go over to the offensive players of the Buffalo bills. And I'll make a point to you here, my friend. So let's go. Let's see here. Quarterback obviously overhurtz Allen. Running back cooks over Barkley. Off last year. That'd be a push. DJ more over Devante. No way. Devante starts. She killed. She care.

11:45Um, Dante and Wicks. I guess that's a push. Keon Coleman in Hollywood Brown. I don't know. Sounds like the same guys to me. Dalton King K versus Dallas Godter. I'll take Godter. Oh, here's the big one. Deon Dawkins versus Jordan Melana never happened. Alec Anderson over landed Dickerson even with landed being injured. I take landed. Conor McGovern over Cam. I'll take Cam. Oh, Cyrus Torrance. I don't know. Maybe a push with steam and Spencer Brown. I'll take Lane. There's not one offensive lineman that you have in Buffalo that could start and filly. The tight end couldn't start and filly. The receivers are kind of compatible, but the number one receiver is in Philadelphia and Devante. The running back James Cook. I'll probably go push. Maybe James and Josh Allen. There's nobody in that Buffalo Bill's

12:47offense that would start and filly. There. So with Josh Allen retires with zero super balls, the excuse will be that he didn't have a great roster. No, he'll go down as Damorino. Damorino had a great roster on offense. Mark Clayton, Mark Dupor, Damorino, but you great offensive lineman. Had a top five offense this entire time. Dude, I'm not going to debate. Josh Allen with this. This is dumb. Okay. Like I said about Manion. Manion is in a big time year. If this guy shows out, he's going to be a hot commodity. If he doesn't, he's going to be just like Brian Johnson. All right. I got to I got to tell you what I'm expecting for Jalen Hertz this year.

14:00Dude, I heard John and Zander talking this morning. I don't want Jalen Hertz just to show up this year and give me another Jalen Hertz year. I want him to be spectacular like he was in 22. He's got to be great this year. That's just good. He's got to be great. I want him to be great. And you should too. 3200 yards, 20 touchdowns, eight interceptions is not great. If you look at his career individually, it's not exceptional. Now the touchdown to interception ratio is very good outside of 23. But the reason that that number so low in interceptions because the

15:01passing attempts, he's one of the lowest passing attempt quarterbacks in the last five years starting. So he doesn't really throw the ball at all. Here, let me give you an example of what we're talking about here. Jalen's got to be exceptional this year. For me to give that guy 60 million bucks. That's just decent. He's going to show me he's one of the best players in the game. Let me give you a guy. I don't want to give you the great ones in the sport because those guys are not comparable to Hertz. Let me give you a guy. Let me go Baker Mayfield. Let's go Baker Mayfield. And let's just take him from Tampa. Okay. Let's see here. Let's go from Tampa. Okay. 566, 576, 13, 1136.

16:06And last year, he had 543. Okay. That's 160, that's 1679 attempts. Now let's take a look at Hertz. The last three years. We'll go three. Jalen Hertz. And Baker Mayfield is not a superstar quarterback by any stretch of the imagination. 454, 361, 11, 8, and 460, 8, 9, 10, 11. Baker Mayfield throws the ball for 579 more attempts. Over that three years span to what Hertz did. 500 foot 500 more attempts. And that's just Baker Mayfield.

17:07If I took the elite guys like Stafford, it'd be probably a thousand more attempts. What does that tell you? They don't ask the quarterback to carry the football team like these other quarterbacks. He carries that football team. And with the limited rosters that many people have that you guys talk about with Josh Allen. Josh Allen's throwing to people. And he may have the same attempts as Hertz, but he has limited talent compared to Hertz. Jalen's in a really good organization, and in a really great situation. Okay. I listen, I would franchise tag him. I would totally franchise tag him for the next two years, 33 years old, paying 50, 51 million the next two years. Jalen Hertz has been to the, that's a, that's a team accomplishment. Hertz is playing with a dented supermarket cans at this point. Not the montagne. Let's see here.

18:20Do you think they're preparing for life after Jalen? No, not yet. I think there's a contingency plan. I do. But I don't think, listen, who asked that question? Do you think there's, do you think that there is a plan after Hertz? Forest? No, but how is prepping for it? How we preps for everything? How he doesn't leave any stone unturned? So no, I don't think it's activated, but I think they're thinking of it. Like, I don't know how you don't think how, if how he thinks of everything, of course he's thinking that, but he's also thinking life with him. So he's probably running a tool, a dual track plan with or without.

19:25They are all better than Hertz until this time to beat Hertz. Again, team accomplishment. I'm talking about individual play and individual players. Keep telling me about a great team versus another great team and think that Hertz is the engine to that. He's been a caboose to it. They run the ball and play defense. He situationally plays really well. Not consistently. He never has since 22. Stop with that. This is why the dramatic changes. Folks, you know, there's so many changes coming that even Sandra doesn't believe it. John's not like, yeah, they're changing. Dan, did you want to say something like the minute they acquire you, they are thinking about life without you? Yes. Because you know why? Once you start getting more money,

20:28once you start getting paid big money, their objective is, can I do it with lesser money? Can I do and get the same result with lesser money than paying that money to that player? Or can my quarterback carry like Kansas City? Kansas City spends no money whatsoever at Y receiver. In Patrick Mahomes's time as a player there, they've never spent money at Y-Dow. They've never spent money at Y-Dow. Like ever. There's never been a big time contract for anybody. They don't go out and spend money like the Eagles do. 25 here, 32 here. That's not what they do. You know why? Quarterback, you carry the football team when less their talent and get the same result. You think they spend money at Y-Dow? Like who? They never even paid Tyree Kill that.

21:36Not debating this any longer. John's a better ball player. We have gotten a little lucky replenishing our old line. Well, we'll see. Who's been? I don't think that Tyler Steen has been a competent replacement to McCoy Bechton. Do you, Ronald? Ronald, do you think Tyler Steen has been a better replacement than what you got with McCoy Bechton? I don't. Ronald, the Eagles D since Vic joined us ranked first and points per game with 18. Our D will be fine and that's Cills is a clown. We only need our O to be decent, to be competent for a Super Bowl. What happened last year? Give up 18 points. That's the Super Bowl year. What happened a year ago? What happened a year ago to your defense? You have the same people coming back.

22:45What will be different? I mean, and out of offense, you got one less player coming back and he's a star player, but you'll be better. Okay. Cills, these other quarterbacks teams should maybe take the ball out of their hands. I agree. I agree. Clearly, it isn't working. Well, take the ball out of their hands. Who would you give the ball to then? I know James Cook has just showed up now in Buffalo. Well, who would you give the ball to then outside of James Cook in Buffalo? Take it out of his hands. Give it to who? Keon Coleman? Who? She care? What guy would you give it to? Dalton?

23:48Cills, so statsy wise, what would a decent year versus a great year be for Hertz? He's never had a great year statistically. He's never had one. That's Cills is logic. You mean he on a fell logic? Cills your logic makes no sense. Well, to you, that means it's a grand slam. If you're going to give discrede, Hertz for when I'm not discrediting Jalen for winning. Dude, once again, when you have an elite player like Miles Garrett on the Cleveland Browns, it has nothing to do with wins when you look at his skill and how good he is. Miles Garrett on the Browns, Miles Garrett on the Rams, it'll be a completely different look with Miles Garrett on the Rams like it was with Stafford in the Lions. It has nothing to do with the ability of the player. People, this is the perfect example of an idiot here. Matthew Stafford in Detroit was

24:56winning nothing but was a good player. It considered one of the better players. He went to a better organization, went better talent, better means, staying cranky, and they want a Super Bowl, and they're constantly contending. He's in a better environment and a story. I mean, Sam Darnal is another example. Goes from the Jets to Seattle. When's the Super Bowl? There's no coincidence to that. That's the logic, idiot. The Eagles win the Super Bowl when Hertz throws 350 times a year and are what had done when he throws 450 times. Yeah, so when they take the ball out of his hands, they win more because the running games there. Yeah. Sales reach out to Jerry Jones Jr. on Dallas. Get to scoop on what they're doing with the 19 million dollar cap space that they just made. Boy, I'll tell you something, man. You know what

26:02really smells? Smells like Max Crosby or something. I don't know. Sounds like a Max Crosby that they could be working on a deal. Hey, by the way, Kyle, can you tell me a favor? Give me a date on when they made that micro-parson straight. Josh Allen's better. Seals, you told Zander you don't talk enough about what you like about Hertz. You always say you won't replace him and just anybody, you won't replace him with just anybody like some dumb people think. You always say it better. That's right. I'm replacing Jalen Hertz. I'm replacing Jalen Hertz with somebody that's not a college guy. That's an established guy. Just like when you have to replace Jalen Rager with AJ Brown, or you have to replace a Nolan Smith with a Jalen Phillips or a Bryce Huff or whatever you're

27:08trying to do, or when you flop at corner and you bring in Derrius Slai on a trade from Detroit, I'm going to replace him with an elite player. If I fail, this is one of how he's great moves. When how he fails, dramatically in a draft pick, he goes into the buyer's market and covers that mess with a talented established player. He's done it every single time when he's bombed on a player. He's gone into the buyer's market. Nolan Smith has not panned out to be the 30th pick in the draft. He's not bad. He's not great. He's just a player. So what have they done in two years? They've given a two third round picks. They went out and got Jalen Phillips and they signed a guy to a three-year contract of $25 million and gave another third round pick up for Jonathan Grenard. Because why? They failed that Bryce Huff. They failed that Nolan Smith. They've hit it seems on Jalen's hunt.

28:11How he's in the buyer's market. And they can't get corner back to right. Now they landed on two great ones in Q and in Cooper. So that covers a lot of the misses in the secondary. I mean, they've had a ton of misses at corner. They've never really drafted well under him. At the corner back spot. Outside of that one year with Q and Cooper. Why receiver as well? They've not been very good. In a bit more on the run game when it matters. Not saying to abandon the quarterback, but lean on the run. Hey, like I said, I want to go back here to this. Dude, I want, I want to hurt to have a spectacular year this year. I want to see something special. I haven't seen anything special in four years. I've seen a game. I'll tell you what, the Super Bowl that he wanted got

29:13the MVP. I thought he was okay in it. I didn't think he was great. I thought he was great in the one he lost. And I thought the defense. I thought just just sweat Milton Williams. I thought those guys were the MVP's in that game. Those guys were tremendous in that game. But I want to see spectacular on a week to week basis. Okay. Deep ball right there. Tells you right here. What is that have to do with playing quarterback? There's nothing to do with playing quarterback. He throws a great deep ball. Yeah, guess what? Brady and my homes went Super Bowl throwing intermediate passes. Caboies have restructured three players freeing $19 million. Cross-be-speculation. Correct. I completely agree with that. Yes. Nothing hurts does right is what a great quarterback does. Sure. Yeah, what's okay?

30:25My homes went six fucking games last year. My homes also won seven. AFC West championships. Five AFC titles. And three Super Bowls and three Super Bowl MVP's. And your guy got bounced by a fucking dog shit 49er team. Rams must be genius flying long range to Australia. Arrived the day before a Friday morning game. Jet lag be damned. Boy, I'll tell you what, man. I'm 1000% with you on this one. Flying to Australia the day before to play a football game. I have no idea how those guys come around that. Winds aren't a quarterback, Stat. How about this? He not only tells you he's the best player in the game. Here, let's see. Let's see if the numbers match up to what we just said when it comes to Patrick Mahomes. Okay? Compared to what Hertz does, 2900 yards. The year, the year

31:29Hertz won a Super Bowl. He threw for 2900 yards and 18 touchdowns. Let's take a look at Mahomes. And his career. 51500 yards 50 touchdowns. 5200 yards. 41 touchdowns. 4100 yards. 36 touchdowns. 4740 38 touchdowns. Shit. He's only a year older than Hertz. 41 83 27 touchdowns. 4126 touchdowns. Last year alone, he had one of his worst years. And he still threw for 30 35 87 and 22 TDs. His success rate with throwing the football, he's all time. The NFL's best at it and yards per game. No quarterback in pro football history has ever thrown for more yards per game than Patrick Mahomes. Any wins? And he carries his team with

32:33Juju Smith Schuster as his receivers. There lies the difference between Patrick Mahomes and Jalen Hertz. Hertz has AJ Brown and Devante Smith. He has Juju Smith Schuster and then somebody. Mahomes had also statistical season. He's done it with a below average run game and wide receiving court. He's never had the time and a below average running offensive line. He's never had to talent. That's in Philly. Like ever. Like ever. Have they ever had the talent Kansas City that they haven't Philly? And personally, with the level of talent that they haven't Philly, they should be winning. Hey, get this. Let me show you something too.

33:34To what Reyes said, it's a good point actually because it puts focus on it. Cheeks year to year. It's a good point by you, Reyes. Guys, would you take this? Where's Reyes? There we go. Speaking of Blueprints, Hertz Blueprint was out in 23 against 49ers. He's never been the same since his production dropped dramatically versus own coverage. Here you go. Okay, this stuff is stupid. And here, would you as fans take this? Eagle fans, would you take this? If you're talking success, you win the Super Bowl in 19. You lose the Super Bowl in 20. You lost the conference championship game in 21. You win the Super Bowl. You won the Super Bowl. You lost the Super Bowl. You had a bad year. Would you take those one, two, three, four, five, six, seven years of getting all the way to the

34:40AFC Championship game, winning three Super Bowls, winning four AFC Championships for one bad year when the quarterback got hurt? Would you take that? Sounds like to me, I'd take that. One bad season for four Super Bowl appearances in six years and three wins. You had one bad year? Sills as anybody know why Antonio Brown went to Central Michigan. Schools like Florida state dropped him because of character issues. That's why that's why he didn't get into big time schools and why he went in the draft, I think in the sixth round. Seven straight AFC Championship games, five Super Bowls

35:40and there's one down year. You wouldn't take that? Got it. Get this. By that logic, it only hurts four years into seven years stretch and has already been to two Super Bowls. Again, with lesser talent, Mahomes. This guy in seven years has won five AFC Championship games and four Super Bowl and three Super Bowls. I'm not debating Patrick Mahomes. I am a missing Super Chat. It's my bad. Sills as anybody, I got that. What are you hearing about? Bro, I don't know anything about that. That's all got things to do with Odyssey and with George Seros. He now owns that shit. Those stations are the new stations not bad, but these other stations

36:48they're emerging money. Odyssey is emerging now. They're emerging. Look at their stock prices. I've got that. I mean, so with a Hall of Fame PlayColor, he can't elevate his first wide receivers. You'll never hire a top-flight Hall of Fame PlayColor. Is Eli better than Hertz? No. No. I don't know. I think they're the same kind of guy. I don't know. I don't think Eli is an elite quarterback. Sills get two Super Winds. So what?

37:49When I look at Eli Manning in his career, has he ever been the best quarterback in the league? Like, no. I mean, Eli Man, get this. And this is what he'll say. He's not. And he's got two Super Bull rings and two Super Bowl MVP's. You contradict yourself. Well, guys, been to Super Bowl's Applials. Well, this guy's got a better record than than Jalen Hertz. He's won two Super Bulls. He's got two Super Bowl MVP's. Is he better? I'd take Hertz over Eli. I would take him over Eli Manning. I'm not the biggest fan of Hertz, but this fan base in the organization has given the benefit of the doubt. I do. Get this. This is so off base. It's not even remarkably anything truth

38:55to it. Hertz won a Super Bowl with Kellymor as his playColor. And not Andy Reed, not in the same ballpark. Yeah, because they took the ball at a Hertz's hands and he threw the ball for 350 attempts that year. Basically 19 attempts per game. And they gave it to the running back who had 450 attempts counting the postseason. They told the quarterback the past and the passing offense was 29th. Can you imagine that? The offense was like last in the league. Nobody will remember Josh Allen if he done. Yeah, there's like nobody remembers Marina. I'll make a point to you too. Hertz has a shot to beat Jim Plunkett too. But he plays in a better city. So that's not going to be true. I'll take that back.

39:55Hertz took the greatness of Shane Stuykin as his playColor. Guy has had done dick since he left Hertz, nor as Hertz actually individually as a player. He's not elevated. He's not improved his passing game. He's not improved his game since 22. That's the best he's ever played on a week to week basis. Everyone knows it in here. Guys, I'm not getting going down this lane like this for like sitting here saying, look, one thing I did say yesterday, the things that I like about him, his tenacity, his ability to want to win. I think he's genuine. I think he's not really the coolest teammate on the planet off that GQ interview. But he does have a commitment to winning. Here was his best year. Let's take a look at that. In 2024, he says that was his best year.

41:052,900 passing yards and 18 touchdowns and how many yards rushing? Did he have that year? Let's see. 630 yards and 14 touchdowns. That was his best year in football, he says. Less than 3,000 yards passing and 600 yards rushing. Okay. Happy to agree with you. Let's see. Let's see here. 22 was. I think Jordan does have that a little bit. Jordan's a tough teammate. I think that's a fair. I think that's what he's copying. Kobe was a tough teammate. Kobe didn't get along with everybody. Actually, Kobe, remember what

42:05Phil Jackson said about him? Phil Jackson said that Kobe Bryant, it'll be a shame to see him later on because he'll have no friends in life. Turned out not to be true. Kobe kind of put that mentality away. And I'd love post basketball, Kobe. I thought he was dope. Now you mentioned Jim Plunk at the Eagles offense was, has resembled the Raiders offense of the 80s, run run, deep shot, except they were under center. Okay. You know, you know what's really wild about where the manion higher and where all of this is going this year? You are so behind every other big time NFL passing team in the league. You're two years, three years behind those teams. And now you're trying to catch up. That's my impression. Now, over sudden, you want to try and build up your team and you're

43:13passing attack. You're like two years behind. You're two years behind in developing of a passing attack. So much so that theoretically, you've got a copy, the Green Bay Packers, and you've got a copy, Sean McVay in the Rams, because you can't put your own signature on something. And that's how far behind the Eagle passing game is. They're so far behind. They're now using other offenses that have been installed for the last five, six years. You're running the Green Bay offense. You're going to be running the Sean McVay offense. That's all we heard everyone talking about. Okay.

44:13The delusion of some of these guys is crazy. Comparing hurts, talent-wise, to any actual top quarter back is stupid. The guy is mid. He has moments where he plays great, but he's not consistent. Correct. Correct. Get this. So the Eagle's offense is evolving. Got it. Great. How is it evolving? You've never done it. Evolving? You haven't even taken a fucking snap with your starters yet. How is it evolving? Think about what he just said. The Eagle's offense is evolving. Where? Where is it evolving? With what? This fantasy offense, he hears? That's what evolving addresses. Okay. Yeah. Man.

45:14It's evolving with something they've never done with a guy who's never done it. That's evolving. When you want to have somebody in the room that knows what he's doing and has done it versus someone who's never done it and is copying someone? I like that take earlier. If Manning was so great at coach, why didn't Matt LaFloran elevate him to offensive coordinator or assistant head football coach? Why did Minnesota like Chris Cooper go without even a contract extension? All of those questions will be played out in nine days. By the way, you got a perfect opponent. Their offense, if line isn't shambles, the roster's not real good. They've got a really good quarterback, but we're going to find out how good your offense is against a mid-level football team.

46:18If you go into that commander game and blow them out, great. That means you are getting off to a really good start. It is liars month. However, okay. But at the end of the day, well, hey, if you struggle with that team and you beat them 20 to 17, watching 10 is nowhere in the room with anybody. Eagle fans just accepted. Hertz isn't a top 10. Yeah, but that's not important. Even when you guys are winning Super Bulls, don't be like Mark Holmes when you're only care about the quarterback and not winning Super Bulls. No England. They got a great roster. They got a formula for winning. It's the collective. Hertz, by the way, Hertz is not bad. He's a good player. He's a really good football player. There's nothing wrong with that. You're just not

47:20exceptional at that position. He's good. He's good enough. You don't have to be elite at quarterback to win Super Bulls. Have we not proven that to you? These dumb fans think as soon as a player or coach, coaches out on Eagles green, they are remarkable. That's okay. That's fan base shit. That's all right. Washington blows out loud on offense and defense. Besides Daniels, the Eagles defense and offense should be able to dominate. Well, we're going to find out. Okay, we will. And one thing that I'm going to keep an eye on, you know, a Christopher, one thing I would keep an eye on in that game against Washington. Keep an eye on the run game.

48:22I'll talk in about the run game for Washington. Washington ran to ball well last year. Let me see something here. We're watching to dig. So let's see what Washington did. Tennessee is the next one after that. So here's one thing Washington did a year ago that I would be and the Eagles don't have a very good run defense. So here, what did commanders rushing rushing last year? The commanders were fourth in rushing. They can run to ball. Okay. Okay, they can run to ball. It's all Brian Johnson, Kevin Toulinshawn, Manian's fault. Not hurts.

49:23Scream your average. Hey, that's dude. It's all excuses. Josh Allen doesn't get excuses, but hurts does. So what's your opinion on how many passes they throw per game? And what that means? You can't go by that. It all comes down to matchups. It really does. It comes down to matchups. Cills, would you start in a playoff game? Jalen Hertz or Justin Herbert? Are both teams even? Or are we talking to Eagles? roster. I would start Justin Herbert. He's beaten you every time he's played you. Running the ball by fault keeps most, both teams even. I'll start Herbert, 10 seconds.

50:28Herbert's a better player. Average quarterback on an elite roster can't beat the Texans in a super bowl. So you're saying Sam Darnold and Brock Purtie can't get the super balls? And you don't think those guys are okay? Guys, I'm not debating individual talent. Justin Herbert is an exceptional talent. I'm not debating that. 18 points per game was during the 34 games combined. I said, oh, only needs to be decent. For a super bowl, Eagles offense wasn't decent last year. They sucked. Your offense wasn't really decent in 24, even. The run game was exceptional. The difference in that 34 game period is that the Eagle run game was exceptional.

51:29The entire time. Here, this is my favorite line. The Vey is 0 and 5 against the Eagles. And yet, by that logic, you'd pick Suryani. Schuster, the why are you picking McVey's offense to run? You're running, Sean McVey's offense this year or a variation of it. If you're so successful against it, why are you running it? Why do you want Jalen to run it? Any answers? If you're so successful against that offense, why do you want Jalen to run it? You, you, you're, you're, I mean, you beat it. Okay. You have tremendous success against it.

52:30You don't lose to it. And yet, you want to run it? You're going to run that same type of offense and variation. Bro, bro, you have no, bro, whatever. Honest to God. He is fucking just a knuckle dragging Eagle fan. It mean they guys can't do nothing wrong. Hey, by the way, he'll believe everything that that organization tells you. And they constantly lie at a fucking both ends of their mouths on every single thing they do. No, no, I asked you a question. Why are you going to run something that you beat? Answer the question. Rast, I ain't going to any more, man. I'll done today. Going to the corner. My brain cells are frying right now. Because Jalen runs it better. He's never run it. How do you know that?

53:35How do you know that? That he runs it better. He's never run that offense and he runs it better. Let me show you something too. One thing about. So look, I'm going to go back here. 38 63. No, wait, what's that? Here we go. 3,0144 16 touchdowns. First year starting. Ricky starting. Okay. 3701 22 touchdowns six picks. Touchdown and deception ratio is good. Quarterback numbers not bad. 38 58 23 touchdowns 15 picks. Massive amount of turnovers that year. Not the best. I'm sorry. I disagree with a lot of people who think he didn't play that bad in 23. I think he did. When you have 21 turnovers in 17 games, that's not good. 21 turnovers at 16 ball games or 17 ball games is not good.

54:37Following year 2903 18, whatever you want to make it at and 32 24 and 25 last year. These are pedestrian numbers. Hertz only has to be pedestrian on that roster. And when that roster is not what it was like a year ago, the flaws showed. Jordan love and Hertz are completely two different quarterbacks. Can't run the same offense. Yeah. Jordan love is better from the pocket. I said what I said. Us jail and I just have to stick together. All good. All good. I you know, he's never run it, but okay. So that's an opinion. Hey, Sills, you said the Eagles will go nine and eight this year. No, I didn't. I said eight and nine. Okay. I said eight nine. I agree two sales. John thinks 2023 was better than 24. I don't think so.

55:45Well, if we're going by the Nick Sireani risk averse, he had 21 turnovers in 17 games. He was a turnover machine in 23. Here, you could cherry pick stats from a quarterback to make them look good or average. No, that's his old career. I'm not looking at anything. Except his career. This is what he's done. As an individual, that's what he's done. That's his body of work as a ball player. I don't know. See here. So Jalenites like just to push their narrative sounds. A lot like politics. Well, again, one thing. Look, he's a good ball player.

56:51I like the fact that he never surrenders. Okay. Love to country. Okay, here we go. 2023. Let's see here. You know, you know, get this and what he's going to tell you, it was ranked eighth, right? Well, here's why it was ranked eighth. I'll tell you exactly why it was ranked eighth in 23. The Eagle running attack, the Eagle passing attack that year in 2023 was ranked what?

57:57It was ranked 17th. The running attack that year, the rushing attack for the Eagles in rushing offense, the Eagles were ranked eighth. The Eagles running attack carried every year that hurts his been starting quarterback. And it obscured the numbers. I'll give you another one here. And this is why this guy is full of shit. Watch this. What do you think the Eagles ranking was in 2024? Let's take I'll show you what it was ranked overall. 2024 offense rankings. The Eagles had the eighth ranked offense in 2024. The the passing game was ranked 29th. The running attack was ranked second. The offense was carried by the running game, not by ballots.

59:01So when he tells you they were ranked eighth, they were ranked eighth because they ran a ball. Not because they threw the ball. They had no ballots. They've never had ballots except for one year, 22. So he just told you some bullshit lie. Just because Hertz doesn't have high passing stats, doesn't make him an average quarterback. Okay, then sure. All right. I didn't say average quarterback. I said an average passer to below average. Hey, sales Cowboys fan here. Big fan of your show. Thank you. Is it fair that I could see still see the Eagles winning 10 games because of Vic and their defense? Yeah. Yes. Absolutely. If they get a run game going, yes. If 26 passing is ranked 17th, it'll be a miracle. I don't believe he's going to be a better

1:00:02and better than Camatillo. You do. Based on what? What's your metric? Oh, I know. You know what the metric is for Eagle fans? And why it's going to be better than Camatillo? Because it can't be worse. Nice philosophy. Can I suggest we make a poll to tally everyone who says Jalen Hertz can't run this offense versus people who do believe Hertz can run this offense? I just want to keep a solid council. I know who to call out. Pretty please. Sure. I'll tell you what. I'll put that over on my at Dan Celiose show and I'll run that poll. And I'll be at the top of that. Okay, absolutely. You're going to turn a quarterback into something he's never been in the history of his career. And I've never, like John McMullen said today on that show, I have never heard of a quarterback changing style of play in the prime of their career. I have never heard that. But we'll see.

1:01:13The pressure is on Jalen to be this 2022 self or 2024 self. I think if you get a combination in between would be great. It's not going to be high volume of anything. But it's going to be effective and efficient. And by the way, you guys think you're going to be better without AJ and a first year play caller. Okay. Again, we got nine days, guys. No harm. No foul. No one needs to get upset here. We got nine days. We're going to find out a first year play caller and you're going to be better without AJ. I don't buy that. I don't buy that. 2022 was Jalen's only legitimate year. Every other year he's been turnover prone. I don't know about turnovers. 23 was. Okay. Other than that, it wasn't really turnover. Even in 24, he wasn't.

1:02:16That's one thing I would say the stretch Christopher where he was bad where they tried to have him carry the team. And Christopher, you know what's wild is that everyone saw what Kellymor did in 24. But yet Kevin Patillo is going to do something Kellymor couldn't do is turn him into a pocket passer. Good luck. Good luck. Hey, you may be right. That's the beauty of sports talk. You may be right. Okay, you may be right. Michael Vic changed his style of playing the middle of his career after prison to be exact. Michael Vic one dick.

1:03:17Michael Vic never won shit in his entire career. And Vic learned to read a playbook. He learned to read a playbook. And he took advantage. By the way, let's take a look at the year that he had. Excuse me, Michael Vic. See if he changed his style of playing. So Vic's best year in Philly was what? 2011. Okay, through for 18 touchdowns in 3,300 yards. How many yards you rush for that year in 2000? What year was that? 2011. He ran for 600 yards that year.

1:04:2176 carries. I've heard 61 yards rushing again. That season. One of the highest years of his entire career going all the way back to his Atlanta days. So matter of fact, his entire time in Philly, he gave more yards that year per game than any time of his time in Philadelphia. And after that year, let's see. After that year, he was in Philly in 2011. Actually, the 2010 season, what did he do in 2010? He had 3,000 yards that year too. He ran for 676 and 9 touchdowns that year. Changes all play. I don't think so. Look, look what you do. Look what you do. Go to another year instead of where you

1:05:21was wrong, which was 2022, not 2024. Fuck out here. I was not wrong in 2022. I picked you guys to go to the Super Bowl. I said you were going to Super Bowl in 22. I picked you guys to go all the way to the Super Bowl that year, started in the off season early. The only year I've been wrong really is 24. I didn't think you could take the ball out of the hands of quarterback. I wanted Super Bowl. You did. Everyone needs to understand the offense is going to be bottom around 20 in the league. Defense will be top three. That's how we win this year. Boy, you better hope that offense ain't in the 20s. I'm not giving a quarterback a $60 million contract. If that offense is in the fricking 20s. That's not happening. Yeah. Well, remember something about Steve Young.

1:06:23Steve Young was one of the most accurate quarterbacks in pro football history. Was it just about his running ability? It was also about the fact that Steve Young was his accurate as Aaron Rodgers or some of the best of all time. Vic said so himself. He didn't read defenses until he got under Andy. I know this. It was more about reading a playbook. Do better? Dude, I'm not. He didn't change his game. He ran for almost 700 yards almost every year. And filling. How's that changing his game? It was of Michael Vick year. When he played those two, three thousand yard here. Look. Michael Vick in his heyday. When he was in Atlanta. Let's see here.

1:07:24Vick was a runner. Vick was more of a runner early in his career. Yes. And then he had to evolve into being a passer. And if you look at Vick's numbers as a passer. When he got to Philly, I mean, you think he was exceptional? I think he was average 62% completion percentage 59 58 54 52. Marshall. This guy was a 50% completion percentage guy in Philly. You're making it sound like he evolved into Joe Montana. His completion percentage was the worst in his career when he got to Philly. Andy read made him into what? When did he make him into? I'm looking at the numbers here. 62 6. And he improved Vick from 54 9 56 9 55 3. When Vick got to Philly, 62 6 59 8 58 1 54 6 52 9.

1:08:40This guy was under 60% completion percentage. Wasn't like you made him into some sort of guru passer. Folks, we have no idea how good or bad this song. No. That's right, Mark. I have no idea. No idea what the unknowns are. 9 days out.