Dan Peña - The Brutal Truth About Wealth, Power, and Weak Men

0:00If somebody came up and slapped him, what would you do? The only answer is you had a brick and your beat is fucking brains out. You taught me a lot about fear, Dan. I wouldn't have been in the ring without you. I wouldn't have run from mayor without you. I wouldn't have run a lot of things without you. Because I now look at fear as something I need to engineer into my life. Man's greatest burden is unfulfilled potential. 95% of the things we worry about never happen. I've lost $800 million in my life. And I've made it back. But most people are worried that they can't make it back. So as long as they don't cut my fucking tongue out, I'm not worried about making a moment. What's your number right now? Because it's a lot more than a trillion, isn't it? 8.6 and it's going to keep going up. Yep. What do you think it'll be in 10 years? When Trump stays in office, the sky's the limit. Don't quantify it. You've been big on cybersecurity the last five years, but now you were talking AI. 10 to 20 years from now, all jobs are going to be replaced by AI. I don't care if you're a plumber in your website, put AI at the end. If you're not an AI, go home. There's a lot of money to be made. Dan, what if there's someone listening? They would say to themselves, I am a cunt to say your terms.

1:02And I need to change myself if I want to get some out of this life. How can they do it? You have to learn to be comfortable being uncomfortable. You've got to have a driving force. If you don't have a driving force, and if you're only going to try, you're going to fail. What are you going to tell your grandchildren 25, 30 years from now? What did you do during the greatest transformation of wealth in the history of the planet? Well, what are you going to tell them? Hi, it's Brian Rose from London Real. You probably know that we've just recently been a re-platformed on YouTube after 25 months completely in the dark. The truth is, I really need your help. What I really need you to do is click on that subscribe button right now. Like this video and maybe even leave a comment or share the link with friends. We're really fighting against an algorithm that's tried to keep us quiet for so long and the more subscribers we have, the more people watch our content, the better guess we can bring you, the better content,

2:03and we can continue transforming lives. We've been doing this for 14 years now. I want to do this for another 14 years, but I really need your help. So click on that subscribe button. Like the video, leave a comment, share this, and we're going to continue to bring you more and more great content. Thank you. This is London Real, I am Brian Rose. My guest today is Dan Pena, the high-performance business coach, founder of the Quantum Leap Advantage, and one of the most uncompromising voices on finance, discipline, and personal accountability. For more than three decades, you have taught people how to build generational wealth from nothing, how to construct businesses that actually scale, and how to remove the emotional weakness that stops most people before they ever start. Thousands have trained with you in person, millions have done so virtually, and the impact can be measured in the trillions of dollars. You are a defining force in the history of London Real. From our groundbreaking first interview released Easter of 2014,

3:04to my time at your Castle Seminar later that year, to our feature-linked documentary film The 50 Billion Dollar Man, to our live events at the Ritz and beyond, and through many multi-hour conversations that have reached tens of millions of people around the world. Today, I want to get your thoughts on the global wealth reshuffle, the geopolitical tensions pushing the West towards instability, the rise of AI and automation, the disruption of money through crypto, and what people must do now to stay competitive in a world that no longer tolerates, hesitation, and emotional softness. Dan, welcome back to London Real. Thank you very much. It's been six years. Yeah, six years. It's been 11 years since the start. I know. Where you been for six years? Were you boycotting me? No, no. I mean, as you know, I mean, the Seminar I give now, I only give it my home, Guthrie Castle, and I still speak pro bono at universities, and I'm not going to stop that. I've got a couple of new leaves to extend my table or my runway, so to speak,

4:05and I'm still busy. I'm involved directly in 26 companies indirectly in about 100, and I keep the kids, which you know I call everybody a kid, because I'm either old enough for your grandfather or your father, I keep the kids on their toes, and I do my best, which is better than 99.9% of anybody else to keep them accountable, because almost all the things you just mentioned, the answer is accountability. There was a, oh, not a book. I think, I mean, Mrs. Gates, Bill's mother, wrote a book about when she had Warren Buffett over dinner, you know, 40 years ago, and they were sitting around the table and Warren's there. Bill Gates, senior, his dad, the lawyer, and Bill, and so there was a loan in the conversation, and his mom said, well, what would you, and she didn't point the question either at Bill or at Warren? What would you say is the single one, single thing,

5:08using one word for your success. They both said at the same time, focus. And what I've said for 50 years of my career, and 33 years of coaching, the guy or gown, or it now, they get slaves who've been focused first, slaves who've been focused longest wins most. And it's about focus. And focus is the answer almost all those comments that you made. The president is focused. He's not just focused on getting even with the people that fucked him around. Nobody has one office in politics around the world, I believe, that didn't get as much shit as he got, okay? And he's still there. And I wouldn't bid against him being a president again in 29. Correct. You're predicting Trump will still be in that other office. Just as I predicted, one negative oil in 2020. Just as I predicted, he was going to bomb Iran. And he just, he bombed Iran. He, to say he thinks outside the box is an understatement, a biblical proportion. He doesn't even have a box. He thinks out of the stratosphere.

6:08And so whatever you think absolutely, he cannot do, he will do. Now, I'm told I have no absolute proof about this, but he's got people that are backing him, haven't told him they're working on changing the Constitution. With their money, not his money, not the government money, but their money, so he can run again. So what we'll see, I told you just before we went on air, my career has been lengthened. My runway has been lengthened due to President Trump, because 75% of the things I agree with, 25% of the things he does, I wouldn't do the way he does them. But he's president, I'm not, okay? So, and he can get away with, I wanted to say murder, but he can get away with anything because he's the most powerful guy on the planet. So, how is he extended your runway? Because he's going to lower rates, because he's pumping investment. And because it makes it cool to be brave again. Correct. I haven't seen the buzzers in New York City since the 80s.

7:09Walking around the world. I mean, people are walking like on skateboards, from back from the future. People, you know, you're not ashamed to make, well, when I was there, if you made $23 million, you got your balls busted. You're not ashamed to make $20, $30 million bucks now a year. And some of the guys, we had a hedge fund guy that came to the seminar in November. He was deciding whether he was going to make $21 or $31 million a quarter, okay? And whether he was going to push it into the next year or this, people were afraid to say that. Right. Like a year ago, you couldn't say that. Correct. But now you can again. Correct. Because it's cool now to be bold, brave and boisterous. Yeah. Right. And it's not unheard of now to have other people, other than myself, have their alligator mouth, overload, their hememberd ass. I mean, I fucked up. I made a mistake. It cost $6 million. So what? I made the $80 million last quarter. They used to see that in the 80s. Smaller numbers. But now you can see it again in 2024, 2025. And going into 2026 for sure.

8:10It's not incredible that one guy can change the whole vibe of the world in 10, 12 months. But what the opposite side of the coin, they're saying, so did Hitler. And so did Mussolini. So did Mousey Tung. So did Stalin. And obviously there's some truth to that. How do you rate his first 12 months? Are you surprised? Yeah. Yeah. I thought that he would do a little more. But he's got a balancing act. We have a balancing act. It's our emotional bank account and our financial bank account. His balancing act is different. I know he wants to get even. Okay. In some cases, I don't blame him. But he's got to run the fucking country. Right. And he's responsible for a lot of the things, i.e. NATO, et cetera. So he's got a balancing act. And most of these guys, he thinks there are voices that are running in these countries. And they are. You know. The same thing. It's like I attended a Ford Foundation board meeting decades ago with Governor Hugh Carey,

9:10former Governor New York, who was on the board. And we sat down and we had been tuned up drinking too much at lunch. And so there was something that came up about child education. And we're going to table it to the next meeting. 15 months later, I went to board meeting again with Governor Carey tuned up. The same fucking thing comes up. And they're going to table it again. That's how the corporate world is. It was then, is now and probably forever will be. Because nobody wants to be on the hook. Nobody wants to be able to. Brian Rose did this or Brian Rose approved this or Dan Penny approved that. Or the investment committee that Brian Rose and Dan Penny are all approved this. Nobody wants to take that heat now. But it's been like that for decades in corporate world. And one of the reasons that he's got so much done in Manhattan when he was in the business, whether we started with four million or four hundred million, depending on which story you want to be, believe is that he went down there. He'd go down there and have people sit in the in the counselors or in the county offices

10:13and push the shit through. Did he buy him lunches? Did he take him to ongoing retreats? Maybe, okay. But up until 2006, those kind of bribes were legal in the European Union. It's only since 2007, they're now called illegal and bribes. You can't do it anymore. But if you've got a sales staff, IBM has been working the 20 years that have been taking people for ski weekends to deserve mod for 25 years and all of a sudden you can't do it or you can't ride it off. Is that going to change anybody's habits? Probably not. So I mean, and he's dealing with a lot of that. And he's dealing pretty well. I wish some of the cabinet members were a little tougher. I'm told that the guy, which is a czar that is negotiating with the Middle Eastern guys, fuck is his favorite word? It's a very successful billionaire developer. And apparently Kushner, although he's supposedly devout Jew, likes to say fuck and cunt too. You didn't go to Harvard, you went to MIT.

11:14A study came out beginning of 2024. Harvard spent $10 million on this study. The people that you swear words are more effective. $10 million fucking dollars. That's a joke. You've always said that. What do you think Trump, you said he could have done more. What more could he have done? Just pushed harder. Cabinet members that push harder because man, he's working hard. He's been soft on Putin. Okay. He likes Putin. Right. And he thinks up until this recently that Putin likes him. Putin doesn't like anybody. Right. He just plain him. Exactly. Right. I would push hard on Putin or the people that were pushing on the people that pushed on Putin. We had a son of an oligarch come to the seminar. Last year. Or this year now, this year. Remember, I trained six to the nine oligarchs in the early 90s. Well, okay. Well, their sons are coming back to the seminar now. And he says, thank you for not using, nobody knows his name.

12:14So thank you for not telling anybody who I am. And he said that the people that are under Putin that could take over something happened to him are worse than him. That's what I hear. Yeah. Yeah, he's the good one. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I hope this gets settled. It looks like Trump's trying to push it through, but I guess we'll have to see what happens. You just had a seminar and I asked you, how was the caliber of the kids? And then you kind of told me and then you said, okay, we're fucked up. The kids are worse, but their results are better. Okay. Okay. And the results are better because even five of time here moves with change. And so starting about three or four years ago, we started experimenting. Testing, blind testing, using those fancy words. And what we got the best effects with before I'd wait three, four, five years to see how you did. Now I wait three, four, five months. Okay.

13:14And you questioned me when I came in. You had one live guy there. No, I had two live guys. I actually had three. I had one on webinar live on the webinar. And we had two that were live and person. There. And they just suck it up. Right. That makes the difference. Oh, yeah. And we used webinars a lot more than we did before. Yeah. And you know, they like to see a guy that looks like them. One of the favorite webinars is a guy, Belgium waffle, one we call him. It looks like a librarian. Okay. But he's a librarian. He's got about 50, 60 million euros now after four years. And he wouldn't say to look at him. But if you were a terrorist on a bus, he's the last guy you worry about striking back. And he has done terrific. And the hardcore are very successful because we have a lot of successful people there. And we happen to have at the hardcore that he went to. We had a guy who's just about to sell his business for 500 million Swiss francs.

14:17Okay. He's been doing this five years. He's turning 30 years old. But what we're seeing more of that we didn't see before is people want to exit earlier. They want to exit. They want to be able to have a few years. 30 is nothing. We both know that. Okay. But they talk like it's the end of the world. He used to call me a kid at 42. Exactly. And so the kids having more interface with past successes has really not turned, turned the corner. But has shown people in this market post COVID because everybody was scared to death about Corona. Which I call, I call COVID Corona. And we're doing better. And the real thing, one of the things in conjunction with the two things I just mentioned is the fact now we really pound seller finance. Right. We just did a, forget the banks for your first couple deals to sell our funds. There's a, not a webinar, but a testimonial that's going around is an Aussie convict. He watched five videos, five videos.

15:19He went out and did a 2.4 million dollar deal. And he came to the last hardcore. And he says, and he's uneducated. And he, and he sounds educated. He's not pretending to sound that way. He is that way. And he says, if I can do that after five videos. And right now I'm here to tell you, he, he should have closed today a 20 million dollar mining deal. He offered him a 30 million seller finance for a 20 million dollar deal. Remember, you name the price, I name the terms. Right. Okay. And contrary to what you think, seller finance 100%. So he's buying the guy's business with his own goddamn money. And he's doing 10 million more than he was asking. Because he's going to refinance it in two, three, four years. And he's going to pull the purchase price out and put it in his pocket. That's QLA. Yep. That's it. But you said long term were fucked. Why do you say that? I've been, I'm at this 50 years.

16:21And I've watched the kids for 33 years. And the quality of people that we have come through the seminar are weak. They're just weak. They have no gumption. You know the test. If somebody came up and slapped you, or spit in your wife's face, what would you do? There's three alternatives. One A is, I'd ask him if he was having a bad day. B, C. The only answer is you get a brick and you beat these fucking brains out. Failure rate is up to 98.6%. I thought it when it was 92%. When the test first came out, it can't get any worse. Failure rate is up to 98.6. 98.6 of blue blooded Americans, Brits, Aussies, etc. Would rather switch than fight. Why is that happening? I can really have to think about it. Poor role models. Okay. We don't do what our parents tell us to do. We do what we see our parents do. Now I had a assassin, Saturday killing monster for a father.

17:23Yes you did. Okay. So you can't really put me in that pool. But who I believe with all my heart and been a tough love. Okay. When I did something wrong and when he did come back into town, my mother had a thing on the refrigerator with a refrigerator magnet. The nuns would have beaten me. The priest probably would have beaten me. My mother would have tried to beat me. She wasn't very successful. She had a little teeny thing. And then when my dad came home, God forbid. I mean, even if it happened nine weeks before, or three months before, my dad would beat the shit out of me. And so I never did drugs. Nobody believes that but it's a truth. I never did drugs because I was afraid my dad would kill me. I mean, it literally killed me. Not just, yeah. Pretend to kill me. And the guys that came to my 80th birthday, there were four or five guys that have known me since I'm 10, 12, 15 years old. And they all said the same story. We didn't do drugs because we were afraid Mr. Penny would kill us too. Because if Danny did drugs, that means he got them from us.

18:25And their fathers were happy with that, fine. Mr. Penny can do the heavy lifting. He can beat the shit out of Howard. He can beat the shit out of Bud. He can beat the shit out of Wald. And my dad did. So he scared the whole neighborhood straights. Okay. All right. So we're just continuing to the grade. And the kids are coming in. And when you can't think it get any worse, it's actually worse. And communication stills not propagating worse. Communication skills are piss poor. They say at Harvard, the students don't even turn up to class anymore. They don't engage in debate. And there's a Harvard kids. And they don't even want to talk to other people. Well, I believe that. And because of Corona, they've lived on the internet for five years. And they don't have the communication skills at the level they should have. If they had been going to class, they had been interacting with other people. But all the schools are the same. Occasionally, we get a bright tool. But all the tools that they have are dull.

19:27It's like a carpenter, nothing sharp. And they have other desires. And right now, information is almost instantaneous or wide. You can find out stuff that you really don't need to know, but you can find it out. And the kids today start from, you know, they know how to work a handheld machine since they're three, four, five years old. And they have it interactive. And a lot of the stuff that are on these apps is not good for them. It just isn't good for them. How do you get out of a rat race? How do you create wealth not only for yourself, but also for the generation to come after? I am absolutely amazed with the quality of companies that we're getting exposure to. We go on to Zoom calls with the innovators and the folks who are building new applications in metaverse, blockchain, artificial intelligence, decentralized finance. What's going on, everybody? Thumbs up if you can see me. We are focusing on early stage investment.

20:27And the quality of people that we're getting exposure to, whether it be Dan Tapio, with OneRT, Jason Ma from Open, and Yatsu from Anamoka. This being a phenomenal experience so far, it has far exceeded my expectations. We are focusing on cutting-edge technologies. I view it as the best investment I have ever made. The upside I view is unlimited. And as a retail investor, I would never get this exposure anywhere outside of investment club. Zoom investment club. Education, when I graduated from high school in 1963, supposedly, education topped out, 63. Now high school degree from then is like two and a half years of college now. And it's hard for me to believe. I graduated with a 2.55 average out of high school. I only went to college because a couple of the other guys were going to college. And the only college I could get in was school you got to explain about.

21:27Which, Belinda Gates just gave $248 million to where you graduated. Cal State Northridge. Really? Yeah. Because it was within the top five world schools in America. Oh my gosh. And I was negotiating with them to change the name of something for immediately $10 million. They stopped talking to me. Okay. We don't need your money now. You know, we've got plenty of money. Okay. So I'm going to stay woke. Yeah. Well, they are certainly woke. If you had it to do over again, would you send your kids to college in this day and age? No. I probably wouldn't really. No. Not worth it. No. Because you get the mind programming and the education doesn't teach you anything. Wow. And in the case of my daughter, I paid for all of it. In the case of our youngest son, he paid himself. That was important to him. Okay. But most kids have debt. Student debt. And when you come to me at age 41, you still got student debt. I mean. And you see that with your kids. Yeah. Damn. It's big. I mean, you know, be used. Not cheap.

22:27No. They're rackets. These universities are rackets, right? They're woke factories that charge hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars to give people a degree that's basically useless. And then they stay in the kids today aren't aggressive. When my kids got out of undergrad, I didn't make a phone call to get them a job. Took Kelly seven months to get her first job. Took her son Derek nine months. But they got a job. Okay. And then she went to New York and started selling real estate. And started making 20, 30 grand a month. And I thought, well, she's never going to go to grad school. But she had promised me so she did go to grad school. And she got in Northwestern. And our son took a couple years off before he went back to grad school. But they would both tell you their graduate degrees mean nothing. Now, in our daughter's case, the big, big boss in the division she works in went to Northwestern. The Medell Communication School, whatever it is. And so that's helped with something. Okay. But unless by serendipity, you happen to go into the same school.

23:29And the big boss, you're close enough to the big boss that he actually recognizes you. I mean, it's a waste of time. Now, I interviewed a Kennedy not long ago. It looked like Robert Kennedy is from that string. I mean, I said, his name's Kennedy. And I said, how many times have you been told, and then he finished his sentence, that I look like my great-grandfather, Robert, more than I can count. I said, don't you need good? I went to great grammar schools, great junior high schools, great high schools, private. It got me into Harvard. I'm not sure they looked at my forms, you know. But other than that, I'm still unemployed. Okay. So the degree doesn't count for months in the States without the house. No, if I went into Kennedy's brother named my pick, or Rockefeller or somebody. Yeah. Rothschild in Europe is different. If you're a Rothschild, your life's made. You get what you want. Exactly. Okay. How much longer are you going to teach seminars?

24:29Well, for sure as long as Trump's in the White House. Okay. So it could be just 33. Yeah. Yeah. For sure, I'd be crazy. And some of the big things that he's going to do, he hasn't announced yet. I'm not surprised that he picked... He says to be... Secretary war, right? Yeah. Yeah, war. I think that's, you know, it's a little bit of a stretch. Now, I hope that he didn't say, like right now it's going viral. The last two guys are on the ship. Yeah. They were alive still. Apparently. And Adam said they were getting ready to be combative. They're on fire. And he said, kill them all. Now, I hope they don't have that on tape. But, you know... They asked Trump about it today and he said, well, it is... We are at war. I think he said something like that. All right. So Trump has more stuff planned. But as long as he's in office, it's good for business.

25:29It's good for you. Because you're... The personality type that QLA promotes is the one that Trump now says is the right one. Yeah, but I mean, you don't have to be an alpha male. 98% of the high performance people on the planet are, you know, not alpha males. You know, they're regular people. You always say that to us. But it's hard for us to hear that because we see you. Yeah, well. Well, in the first years that I was selling the seminar, which I thought that, you know, it was an easy sell. But we can't be you. And the guy, the few guys that have tried to be many, many, he's gotten trouble. Okay. We've had a couple of kids arrested for stocking because they wouldn't take no for an answer. They should have had the bank. Yeah. Well, and Carl Icon, allegedly, you know, a guy at Bank of America fired because he wouldn't take no for an answer. Okay. And the... I mean, not taking no for an answer is different than some little librarian from Kansas. Okay. So they try to be you and then realize they're not. Correct.

26:29But I wish I had made a deal in the beginning for two or three tailors, three pea suits, roles as Rolex watches and a few other things. Because, you know, they... You only have two times to make a first impression. First, when I look at you, second, when you open your mouth. And even the guys that dress nice like you, when they open their mouth, they put their foot in it. Okay. And even though they have the scripts and all the things that you know, you know, saying this is... Stuttering, I mean, doesn't do you much good. And at my 80th birthday, we had the first and only student that I gave an A when I taught. Okay. John Macias. He was a stutter. You know, he's a stutter now. He's a psychotherapist now. The first multi-millionaire, teenage multi-millionaire, Matt Postius. He was the first internet guy, you know, rode around in Lamborghini's with girls with big tits. You know, okay. He was there with his wife. And the first guy that I helped on Wall Street, who's a big partner now with JP Morgan.

27:32So those first and... But even when I wasn't coaching, I was always making people accountable, you know. And Wall Street, they ended on the West Coast ends at three to whatever it ends. Were there eight of nights? I mean, during the work, because we couldn't depend on the research that was coming out at that time. Now, some places had great research. We were not one of those places. Right. We weren't. And we were just fooling ourselves to say that we were. But I mean, this is our market. I keep saying, on the seminars, this is our time. You know, what are you going to tell? Let me say this. You're grandchildren 25, 30 years from now. What did you do during the greatest transformation of wealth in the history of the planet? Well, somebody just thumb up your ass. Now the grandkids won't say that. Okay. Well, what are you going to tell them? And it reminds me, you know, this is an awful thing I say about my family. My family has mortgage burning parties.

28:35You pay off your mortgage after 30, 40 years. You have a block party and a 55 barrel, a gallon barrel drum. You barbecue and you're burning the mortgage on it. And I first saw that when I was 12, 13, 14. And I asked my dad, what the fuck? Why are they, what proof do they have that they own the fucking house? Okay. But they were doing it in defiance. You know, fuck you. I'm burning my mortgage. I'm sure there's still some people that have that mentality. But that was their great accomplishment to pay off a 30-year mortgage. Correct. Right. Not to dream. Just as I was a first kid on my mother's family. That's the only reason I went back to college. To graduate from college. Nobody had ever graduated. That's what I came back. But I needed to go back to school like I needed AIDS. I mean, didn't do me any good. Well, I dress this way because of you. That's the truth as much as I might be. John, Ken's tired. I hear. Yes, Ken, John is not around as much. But Terry's there in great form. And they're doing big business.

29:35They're doing a lot of business in the States now. Really? They're going to New York and Miami and just lots of client business. So they're hot again. That's good. I think you probably made them hot. I get a lot of business for you for me. I'm happy for them. Yeah. It's very good. What's hot right now? Because I know you've been big on cybersecurity the last five years. And now you were talking AI is what you're into now. Well, if you're not an AI, go home. I mean, every business. OK. I don't care if you're a plumber in your website, put AI at the end. You know, I mean, you might as well go home. It's the future. And I said 40 to 60%. 10 to 20 years from now, 40 to 60% of all jobs. I used to say entry level jobs. I don't do that anymore. It's all jobs are going to be replaced by AI. So what is that? We have robots. Robots, the castle. You do. Yeah. Gordon one, Gordon two. Serving drinks. No, no, no, no. Doing the yard work. Really? And my staff is crazy within security.

30:35Really? We haven't laid anybody off. OK. But we're getting four more robots. Gardener robots. No, no. In the house robots. Really? JNT, John. JNT. JNT. Incorrect. Wait till Elon starts cranking out. Yeah. And they don't take time off. They're never fucking sick. They don't eat. Until one day you wake up in the castle and they're standing over you. Well, now you probably heard this story going to MIT. It was about 10, 11 years ago. The grandmasters might be Caltech, your dad's alma mater. But one of those two schools had a big chess tournament. And it had the four or five grandmasters that were around at that time against the newest IBM computer. It was a three day tournament by Bavava. And at the end, the humans won by this much. And so the guy, the moderator, a Caltech professor probably had a hair like this said something to the effect, well, can we learn anything over and above what happened at the recent tournament that you lost to these guys?

31:37And don't trust us. They're going to eat our lunch. Is this how the world's going to end? I think so. You think they're going to end us? Yeah. The ultimate exterminating factor. And that happens a lot. I love watching those movies. They're like, what? Robot. Robot. Well, Smith. I've robot, yeah. You think it's going to happen in 50 years, 100 years? Yeah. Well, you're going to die before me. So you'll already be dead. I'm about that. I plan on, I still have to go into space. Right. One of my goals. And have sex with Sally. Right. I heard this recently. Okay. Yeah. Well. And we already, Sally already put our down payment. You can pay 20 million to the Ruskies tonight. And go. No training, no nothing. They'll come and pick you up right here outside the building. Right. And you're on the space station in three days. The Ruskie craft in the evenings. Yeah. Is it safe? Yeah. Well, it's safe as you're going to get anybody to take you. All right. If you do a NASA, five years before you can go.

32:38No, the training. Oh, the training. No, right. The Ruskies don't care. And you don't want to do one of these chicken shit ones where you go. Oh, yeah. No, no, no. Right. I felt sorry for the Star Trek guy. When he went up. He just went up for eight seconds, two minutes. He came back and he looked like he was dead. With bezos. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was hanging out with him a couple years ago at a crypto conference. Yeah. Nice guy. Legendary guy. Yeah. So you're going to go up for real with Sally. That's on the goal list. Yeah. What else? And if I burn up a reentry, that's fine. I don't give a shit. All right. And Sally's okay with you saying that. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Sally says we've got to somehow get shields or block. You know, she's not against the sex and space part. Right. But she doesn't want it to be so you can look at it on your cell phone down here. Somebody will be watching. Well, I'm sure someone's going to be watching. Okay. All right. So that's on the bucket list. What else? What else? Well, I'm the newly appointed apostle of finance for the Catholic Church. I heard about this. How did you hear about it?

33:38I didn't tell anybody. Lord help us. Lord is helping us now. After a few weeks. You were talking about it in your post-conference stories. Oh, yeah. The guy asked me. Yeah. So now I take calls now. I never took calls before. It's the Vatican. Okay. All right. Now you, let's talk about this. First of all, you were just neither like the Vatican. It looks like you. Really? A regular guy. A regular guy. You know, I'm not just a regular guy. No, no, no. I'm looking. Good looking. You want to dress. Great broadcaster. Great broadcaster. Well, he's not a broadcaster. Okay. Somebody asked them when we were there about podcasts. He didn't know what we were talking about. Really? He's a different kind of pope, right? Yeah. And he's the smart guy from Chicago. Okay. Yeah. He's a group of numbers too. He ran the books for a while. Yeah. And they said he went. And that's why you're involved. Correct. Because he was going to sort the books out. Part of the reason I heard. Now, hurting from wrong. Because he was out of the blue, got elected. But people were saying the whispers at the time were. And the question to me now. Is that he maybe was the only guy that could sort out the books.

34:41And the books were a mess. Well, he doesn't think he can sort it out. But he thinks he can oversee the sorting out. Right. Okay. Now, you have a long. It's a 10-year project. Okay. I said I can do it in seven. Were you recently knighted by the Vatican as well? Yeah. Two knights. Two knights. Which ones? Well, wait. Two knighthoods. A commander of the cross. Knight of Templar. One other one. Five. Why won't you accept a British knighthood? Well, I haven't been offered. We're working on that. I want to sit in the house of lords. You do. Yeah. Oh, my God. You can sit next to Lord Bailey, the guy that ran against me for mayor. Jesus. There's some dummies in there. I don't know him. But well, not my friend, but Lord Lilly. He used to be on my board. He used to call him all Lord ship bags. Quick. I did. But I am one of them. That's still on the cards. Oh, absolutely. Okay.

35:41I thought you've been offered before, but you'd turn it down. No, no, no, no. Okay. All right. So you got these different knighthoods. Well, the queen, the cross is from the queen, right? Yes. Okay. And then the Vatican knighthood. And then maybe the British knighthood. You would accept it if offered. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Okay. We need to probably somebody besides labor and to get you that one, right? Yeah. Probably. Okay. And because famous quote, when you were with Fresh Fields, right? We do business with the Bank of England, the Church of England, the Queen of England. And Dan Pena. And Dan Pena. But you were doing business with the Vatican back then? Or you knew about the business? No, no, no. We shared a law firm. Well, partly. Yeah. But in 1982, I know way too much about you, Dan. Okay. You knew when the Vatican Bank explosion of corruption with the mafia and the archbishop, Manchinkus, who was the guy, and I kissed his ring, I don't know how many times, was found to be laundering money.

36:41But he just, a guy recently in Arizona at the retirement home for his order of priests. So in those days, you didn't put in people in jail. You just shipped them off someplace. Okay. And the then secretary of state was involved, and I was involved, and the deal blew up. And a lot of guys went to jail. A few got killed. The Carl Revo, who was called the mafia banker, who was in the Vatican back, allegedly hung himself from London Bridge. Right here. Okay. And Black Fires Bridge. Yeah. That was in the 80s, right? Yeah. I remember here in that story. Yeah. Something that normally doesn't happen in London. No, it doesn't. Right. Something like that. Okay. Wrong. So then in the 90s, I came back again, 15 years had passed. I didn't get in trouble. I was a co-conspirator, unindicted co-conspirator. I was the low end, so they thought then, and probably now that I wasn't high up enough

37:46to get do anything harmful. Okay. High up and wit, or what's your organization? In the bank. Back in the bank. Back in the bank. I was at that time with the Onassis group. Right. Okay. And so then in the 90s, I decided, you know, we should resurrect this. Because I volunteered because the church was almost bankrupt in the early 80s. Okay. Okay. Well closer to bankruptcy today, because of all the billions they paid out for the abuse rulings against them. Right. So they did all this bad stuff to their little kids. Okay. So then I went back in the early 90s, and I said, let's get this fucking thing going again. All right. And the only reason we're talking about the churches, because they brainwashed you as an altar boy. Quick. No. And you're the first to admit that. I was the one to be altar boy. I never got to be an altar boy. Oh, that's why. Yeah. So this is the whole in your heart. My family couldn't afford the $8 for the little uniform. Okay. Okay. So you say, I have trauma issues. You have trauma issues. Well, yeah. Well, mine have with God. Yours are with God. Yours are with your father. Oh, really? That's why you're here. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. I'm here to save your soul.

38:46Okay. I was going to wait till the end now. Yeah. Okay. So I went back in the 90s, and I said, I want to resurrect this. And so everybody was, we're still almost broke. And so at that time, a karma like priest who I know in all my life, it was kind of like our family priest. I said, John, I want somebody to hear my confession. Well, John said, well, Dan, I know you're alive. I'll say, hear your confession. No, I want to see your guy. So they found me this work-or-respondent slash priest named Montsenior Pericina. So I prepared for about a month, and I had all, I had a yellow tab, a legal tab, this long, every line on both sides of the paper with thousands and thousands and thousands of sins. So I went there for him to hear my confession. We're sitting in his drawing room. And I said, bless me, Father, I've sinned. It has been such and such years. Now they call it reconciliation. And so I get about to the third page. So he says, excuse me, Mr. Pericina, which isn't just like this. And he takes it from in. He flips through and he says, Sodom and Gomorrah have got nothing on you.

39:47You main, murdered, killed. Correct. So he goes over to the fireplace. He throws it in the fireplace. I go over there and try to get it. Why are you doing that, Montsenior? Nobody should see that. So we're sitting back having our coffee. And I said, well, what's my penance? He says, go home and hug your wife and say you love your wife and your kids. What kind of goddamn penance is that? Anyway, the next morning my priest buddy calls me. He says, Dan, he's sitting down. Montsenior Pericina died last night after he saw you. Peter Teal took a half a million dollars and turned it into a billion dollars using the exact same techniques we're using inside the investment problem. He met a CEO, his name was Zuckerberg. He pitched him the deal. And he said, OK, I'll give you a half a million dollars. Mark went public and sold the shares to people like you. Well, what happened to Peter? Well, he exited and got a 2,300 extra turn. The wealthy invest in early-stage companies, folks. The public markets are for suckers.

40:48It's a rigged game. By the way, this happens in crypto as well. It's called presale tokens. This is Salonans. Anybody know this chain? They sold presale tokens for four cents. And you can see the date on their April 50, 2018. Look at Salonans today, folks. That thing's up over 1,000X. The media and Wall Street and all these hype people get you to buy the top. Meanwhile, they put their clients in at the bottom. And they use you for liquidity to make their clients rich. You can play this same game. You just have to have the financial education and the deal flow. That's it. So I decided to put back on the evil rubbed off on him. Nobody wants me to fix anything. Okay. Because you were going to help with that project. Correct. And they know I know how to do it. Okay. Okay. Fast forward 20. You just need a vine stomping you, or is this somebody now in the scene pushing you? They say the devil. Okay. Okay. Yeah, but there's a lot of things happening behind the scenes. Yeah, yeah. Okay. So fast forward 25 years.

41:48I decided it's time to do it again. Like in the last few years. I'm getting these awards from the church. I got to see the Pope eight weeks ago. There's a nice guy regular guy. It's not easy to do is huh? No, it is. Right. But if you need something done, Brian, there's only one guy you know, no matter what, they can get it done. That's me, no matter what. And so anyway, so I come back and I start enlisting my little staff. And the day before yesterday. The Archbishop of Los Angeles, Gomez, was contacted by one of my mentees. And we are pushing it forward. There's sitting on between $3.7 trillion in revenue. They're not collecting $3.7. Revenue. Revenue. Okay. So let's just say it's three. These are contributions from our church. No, no, no, no.

42:48No. Five years ago, if you were a parish priest, you'd collect your light between $7,000 and $12,000 a week in the basket. Yeah. Now you get 50 bucks, $100, $300. Oh, right. Okay. They haven't paid their light bills and those kind of bills for eons. Okay. And the only reason they haven't been evicted is because it's the Catholic Church. Okay. Okay. Okay. So I've been working on this for two or three years. And Sally and I have built, and I hooked up with St. Teresa, and I put my money on, or before she was a saint, one of the treasurer, because she had a cut throat business attitude. She would do anything, live, cheat, steal, and in the name of the kids. Okay. Which I won't lie, but I certainly have stolen. And so we built missions in Sri Lanka, China, the Philippines, Japan, the United States, for the last 20 years, for the missionaries of charity, which is St. Teresa, and now St. You're quite involved in that.

43:48Oh, yeah. Very well. And you know, not just with my go visit, too. Oh, yeah. You see the kids. I see all the kids. And I've actually taken a kid that is put in the tray at one of St. Teresa's missions with an ambelical cord cut. They put the kid in the tray. And so the nuns on the other side of the wall pulled the kid out. And then I've seen that kid raised to a grammar school, junior high school, college. In some cases get married. In some cases get a job. I've been doing it over 20 years. So I've seen the cycle. I couldn't see with these eyes. You know, that's actually happened. Why is he in the tray? Because he's been giving up. He's been, he's been, he's been, he's been, he's been abandoned. Because out of wedlock. Just like you. Okay. Abandon in a different way. Like all your kids. Huh? Okay. Okay. Okay. Seriously, all my devotees have been abandoned. And once there were nothing. They know. So we're here. Okay. Okay. And so, but I've seen that with my own eyes. Wow.

44:48And so, that must be a trip. Oh. Oh yeah. And the first one, about two or three years ago, had a kid. She went out and got married. Okay. And she married some guy in the army. I hope she doesn't watch this. You could have done a lot better. But anyway, they get a paycheck every two weeks. So, that's better than most of the people that work in the Philippines. Okay. And the kids better off going to the nuns than their parents, do you think? Yeah. Absolutely. Okay. But then, after the parents find out, they're getting three square meals a day. Then they try to hit on the kids when they're in junior high school and high school for money. Really? And I've had, I've advised the nuns, you can't give it to them. What about charity? I don't give it. You know what I'm always saying? God damn it. You can't do that, sister, or mother superior. You know, you're just feeding their habit. And they come with almost needles hanging from their arm. Okay. Trying to squeeze the kids. There's some extra cash. Exactly. After they abandoned them 12 years earlier. 15 or 18 years earlier. Okay. And sometimes, we've checked the DNA.

45:49I don't believe it's a mother. And five times out of ten, I'm right. It's just somebody. Because you can rent kids in the Philippines and in China for like a hundred rupees a day, which is like eight cents. So you can go back on the street. Renting kids. Yeah. Okay. Just imagine if you had been around it out. I could have made more money than that. Yeah, maybe so. Maybe so. All right. So you're going to fix a Catholic church. It's a ten-year project. You're excited about it. Seven to ten. Are they going to give you the money? No, no, no. Well, we're going to attack the US first. Okay. Okay. And the biggest parish in the US that's in trouble is paid at 1.56 billion in reparations to the kids. His L.A. That's run by a guy named Gomez, who happens to be from Mexico right where my mother's from. Okay. Okay. My mother's from. And 25 parishes in the United States. But they're all run like fiefdoms. Each cardinal or archbishop runs like a business. And they don't know.

46:49One of the bishops I met with my last trip happened to be a successful businessman before he went over to God. He was a PhD in electrical engineering. I mean, he was a smart guy. He said, this is a smart guy. He might actually... I watched this. I sent him an email. I watched his bishop. And the... So we're going to attack it. Dice is my diocese. Okay. And then when we're successful in the US, and 60% of my personal portfolio is health care. The biggest assets are hospitals. They have 3,100 hospitals in the United States. Okay. They have 2,600 schools. Okay. Notre Dame is the most obvious one. Yes. Okay. They all lose their ass. Right. So they run terrible businesses. Correct. And you can change that. I can change it. Not overnight. Right. But they need the income because they're not getting anywhere else. No. Well, there's some people that are struck off. In other words, for example, Goldman Sachs can't do business with them because they try to... I don't know all the details, but they may have tried to twist the facts so they can get a loan 15, 20 years ago.

47:52Okay. They're out the door. Can you change that? No. Well, those guys were forced to retire. I'm told. Okay. And the interesting thing about it, there's a lot of closet Catholics. Okay. Okay. I had no idea how many closet Catholics I know. There's a lot of closet religious people coming out of closet. Thanks to Trump. Yeah. I mean, you see it all the time now. It's like everyone now is talking about Christianity at least. And it's now become invoked quite a bit. I don't know if that allows us. Enrollment and education in the Catholic schools is down 60%. Really? Okay. Okay. All right. And the enrollment, or not enrollment, the attendance in Sunday Mass, et cetera, is down 85%. Okay. And they have no money. And they can't sell any assets. They're sitting on eight or 10 trillion in assets. Art, goals from World War II, diamonds, et cetera. They're not allowed to sell it. It's either St. Paul said or somebody said it. Okay.

48:52Okay. Can you try to change that? I don't know. Well, no, no. We can turn to one. As soon as we turn around, it's first I've got this. You have a case study. Okay. Well, case study. As soon as we get some positive results, we're going to start working on two or three others at the same time. And the, it's, it's. How hard is this going to be to do? At least 50% of my time. Okay. And it's probably one of the hardest things you've ever had to pull off. Yeah. Massive bureaucracy. Yeah. But I did it in Siemens. Yeah. True. Which one's harder with Siemens? Yeah. Okay. The Germans. There's a right way, a wrong way, and a Siemens way. I know how to do this. Okay. I know how to do it. 50% of your time on that. Yeah. The other 50 split between you being chairman of 26 companies and then teaching and giving Sally some attention. Yeah. Well, I have to, but Sally does everything with you. Yeah. But I have to have my attention with Sally. And the, she's booked 30 good years in, but I was teaching her this morning.

49:53If I was an unkind person, honey, I'd say you look older. And she's sitting with curlers and shit on her head, you know. And she says, well, that's a kind thing to say. And I said, but I wouldn't say something like that. Because when I get done with Brian Rose, you're going to look all glamorous. I was thinking about when I was driving over here in my phantom. This is, can you walk around here at night? Yeah. Yeah. You can. Audience, that's alive. But anyway, if you invite you over, I have a bodyguard with me. Can you walk around Mayfair at night these days? Not with a watch, not with a petac on. No. No. That's your London. Yeah. What happened? We'll get into it. Exactly. What I told you about the kids. So since I met you, what's happened in my life? Let's see. I bought Sally a 16, 18 and 22 carat diamond rings. Okay. I'm a netjet owner. And I told you, you can't afford it. You can't get enough reason to get a plane. Remember? Yeah.

50:53My space worth it. Well, at 80, I can make over and excuse for anything. All right. So you netjet it unless you're going in our net. No. Tomorrow were commercial. But I mean, less than 20,000 miles is a netjet. We have a netjet in America. And we have netjet here in Europe. And that's been a good move, right? Yeah. You don't like airports. Yeah. But we don't use netjet. Like, there should be six rate people on the plane with us. But there's only two. Only I. Okay. Not occasionally. We have a flight attendant. Okay. You're very lucky. That's not the right way to use netjet. Right. Is, you know, when you have six rate in the plane. Oh, okay. But you guys don't. You know. All right. You are very lucky to have Sally. She's an angel. Sure. Absolutely. Absolutely. I think I meant to that. And that was a great, great, great call. As is your wife. Yes. I called to your boys now. Eight and nine. And I told them you were coming today. And they were like, who's this trillion dollar guy? Who's this guy? So I showed him, you know, pictures of us in the castle. And they were, they were asking me questions about the trillion. The trillion got their attention.

51:54And I said, Gabby had been up to your castle for the 70th. And she gave a speech at your 70th birthday party. Correct. And they were asking questions. Very intentionally. Sorry, 12. Actually very articulate for anybody. Not just 10, it's 12. Well, she was 12 then. Yeah. She kind of shocked the audience. I think you guys just grabbed her and said, they saw her and she's improbbed it. Yeah. Yeah. Better than your father. Yeah, probably, right? Exactly what I said. Yeah. Yeah. Better than I could have done, especially then. But yeah, who knows? Maybe the boys will come up and see you at some point. Yeah. You have 14-year-olds? Is the youngest you did? 14. Okay. And you kind of... You'd have to come back with them. Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah, gosh. In fact, we just had the carlings, well, now he's 18. He came when he was 15. I'm educating second generation of these kids. And I told you the son of one of the older garks came at the last seminar. And the Russian mentality about taking action and being harsh and selfish and et cetera,

52:56you don't have to teach him that. Right. I mean, it's just... In the culture. Yeah. Yeah. We almost had a fight, we had two Russians and two Ukrainians at the last seminar also. And they don't like each other for real. For real. For real, real. Okay. For real, real. And the... And when they boxed. And when they boxed. Oh. Coincidentally, one Russian and one Ukrainian boxed. Coincidentally. Coincidentally. And one... And infinitely more skills than the others. So I couldn't really tell. Okay. Because when you're on your back all the time, I mean, you're not much... You can fight back, but... You're still boxing. I have my second boxing match. I saw it. You did. Thank you for watching. The 19-year-old is skinny kid. Oh my God. He was six foot three. I mean, Jesus. And he had that young kid nervous energy. I never been hit that hard in my head that first round. But by the third round, he didn't want anymore.

53:57Look, it was... Why don't you go five rounds in? I would have loved to. My David Hey was training me. World-class box or British champion. And he called... First of all, he said you won that fight. I was like, okay. But he said, if that had gone five rounds, you easily would have won it. I agree. Because my cardio is my strength. You agree? I agree. That I if it went a couple rounds. But I got so tired that I announced the same... How fabulous you look for 54. I see. But I wanted to see his heart's only that big. Okay. That big. No, no, no. I'm not talking about the heart to fight. But I mean, the heart to take emotional risk. Okay. It's only that big. That, that, that's all? Well, maybe it's grown since I knew you better. Are you going to tell me what's wrong with me now? No, no, no. And the embarrassing, you know. I want you to buy more Kent suits. At some point you got it. So when you close this thing down. So look, I'm spending a lot of time in Dubai. I have been for a while. I like it out there. There's a lot of business out there. A lot of blockchain business. And also, you know what London's like? You know what the Britain's like. I know what the British are like. You know what the British are like.

54:57I mean, you're still here. I know, but I'm a British citizen now. As am I. And I came here. I mean, I, look, I fell in love with this place. Maybe the way you did. And when I first got here, maybe I felt the same way you did. As in, I looked around and I thought, I can beat these guys at what they do. That's the first feeling I got. And my first 10, 15 years here in the city, I had a lot of success. But now, I don't know. Is it just wearing a little thin? I don't know. I just feel like the, the country is on the decline. I just don't feel like the opportunities are here. And I just feel like there's just a little bit of a grind here. Whereas when I'm in Dubai, it feels like the sky's the limit. And I'm around it. Well, Dubai is, you spent time there. It's Las Vegas without slot machines. Okay. What does that mean? Let me. When I came here in 1981 with what I knew, I was like taking candy from a baby. Okay. And the stories of me choking investment bankers or doing that kind of shit,

55:57I will need to confirm to deny, but some of them are true. Nobody was as aggressive as you. I know. I ate these guys for lunch. And they didn't work anywhere near as hard as you did. No, no, no. And they didn't think the way you did outside the box. Correct. And you didn't have that. We can do it. We're going to do it no matter what I said. Correct. Because that's the opposite of everything British. Correct, especially back then. Oh, yeah. Okay. So they caught up a little. Right. But now they act like they wrote the book, which, no, they're still reading somebody else's book. Right. Okay. And Dubai is where I, but I mean I've got, Sally and I were there five months ago for two closings, for two of my kids. One, Nelly. And this is public information. So I'm not doing anything bad. A hundred million dollar closing at the close. The government took 20 million of his money. So he only got 80 million. Okay. Happens all the time. Okay. Yesterday, 50 grand at the close, taken an extra fee that came up where was this? Dubai. Okay. Okay.

56:57And then the Carlings, who just are from Dundee, sold their company to a Japanese company. And the close wasn't in Dubai, but they were there. So we celebrated their deal. Okay. And they sold for a few hundred million bucks. They're their maintenance company, which is all over the UK. But Dubai is where it's happening. But I mean, you've got to know who you're in business with. And there's two or three non-Dubai-based law firms. In other words, American or English-based law firms that have run the test of time there. And if you don't have one of those guys, and or a Dubai partner that is born and bred, and that carries a Dubai passport, you can get fucked very easily. Okay. Very easily. It's better than it used to be, but it's still. Oh, yeah, it's still. It's still. A few years ago, you had to have an Emirati on your border and your company. I mean, that's changed, but still you've got to watch it. Do you have to watch it? What's Agnelli buying there?

57:58Huh? No, no. Well, he's the South African Glomba. I'm wondering what's he doing there? Well, he closed the fund to buy part of the beers. Okay. And they were there. And the money was there. And he's paying, I think, two and a half percent interest. And lump sum, 25 years. Okay. No payment, nothing. Okay. Interest or principal for 25 years? Okay. He got that financing. Yeah. And you can't find it. Right. And he placed it anywhere else. Okay. Of all that, of the area, Dan, and I know you know the area. If you look at Saudi, Qatar, Emirates, and again, in my seminar, we had a Qatar guy there. So I know you know all those guys. I know you've been doing business in Kuwait and everywhere since the beginning. Yeah. Which, if you had to go to one of those places now at say you were 30 years old, which one would you go to? The same one I went to Kuwait. Really? I mean, I was dealing with the top dog. Okay. Al Sabah. Okay.

58:58Okay. What if you weren't in the oil business and you were just going today? But Peña is a young man. I know you would have said 70, 10 years ago. But Dubai and then do business in the area. Yeah. Now, I'm not as familiar with Abu Dhabi. It's quieter where all the money is. Yeah. That's what everyone says. Yeah. And where the oil is, obviously. But I mean, oil, it costs about two bucks to get the oil from discovery to extraction. In America, it's 52 bucks. Oh, really? There's no comparison. Okay. It's two bucks out there. Two. Actually less than two. It just flows right to the surface. I mean, you can almost dig it with your hand. Okay. Everywhere out there. Yeah. So it's just, okay. So this really money just flows from the earth. Correct. Okay. I mean, literally. And there's a thing in the Quran. I forget where I've read it about goodness flowing from the earth. And that's, you know, the oil you know. But did Muhammad know? No. No, he didn't. But Jay Paul Getty, who discovered oil in Saudi Arabia

59:59in 1926 or whatever it was, was looking for water. Okay. Okay. Because if they didn't get water there, they'd be ill dead now. There'd be no Middle East. Okay. Okay. Okay. So serendipity in Allah's will. Water. So Getty found the will. Yeah. Correct. Wow. Yeah. And he owned it for a while and then he had to give it back. Yeah. Yeah. But now he didn't give it back. He'd see solar back. Okay. For a lot more than, you know. It only costs in those days. It costs 800 bucks to drill a well. He was charging then 80,000. So he, and he drilled six, eight, 900 wells. What the London Real Investment Club actually does for you. He gives you the keys to open that door to the inside deals. In the last three weeks, I participated in three incredible deals, a layer two Bitcoin protocol, an incredible AI protocol. The deal flow is beyond what I expected. I don't think I've ever seen a model like this that just gives average folks the opportunity to be behind the deals. And that's exactly what we've done.

1:00:59Not only that, you get to hang out with Brian Rose every week. And for me, that was huge because I look at Brian as somebody who's not only an expert in the space, and I think is on the leading edge, but just the leading edge of thought with London Real and the work he's doing there. To anyone who's taking a serious look at this, I know it's a big decision. It was a big decision for me and my family. And it is one of the best decisions I've ever made. So I wish you all the best and hope you come join us. So we made a bunch of money there. But the problem with Getty died. He did everything in the foundation. Never paid a dollar tax. He's famous for having a pay phone in his house. And for not paying ransom to his grandkids. Exactly. And I met the kid without a missing ear. He's dead now. I mean, he talked about fucked up. He said, I have 12 more grandchildren. According to Getty's legend, would you hear their names in their addresses? Go grab them. Yeah.

1:01:59And they got the kid back eventually. Yeah, it's time. It's the only time the Italian secret police, secret service did something. And the joke is they bumped into my accident. Okay. Do you watch that show called Landman? Yo, I love it. You love it. That's what I used to do. That's what I'm kind of when I'm watching. I'm wondering what it's called. Landman, that's me. So you used to do that. Exactly. Really? Multiple. Okay. But he went and got money if you're up to date with it from the Mexican drug cartel. Yeah. By accident. Yeah. I got money from... No. I got money from the Japanese government. I got money from the British government. Okay. I got money from different governments. Because they sell the returns. And I convinced the Kuwaitis to give me money to build an oil company. They need another oil company. They need AIDS. Yeah. But I sold them on the idea. But one of the big Autobots just converted yesterday from being a Muslim to being a Christian. The number four or five Autobot. I mean, he says I'm going to wind up dead. I probably won't make it through the weekend.

1:02:59He's absolutely correct. Okay. I mean, for one of the... Because there's 15 or 1800 Autobot princes in Kuwait. There's only six to make any difference. Okay. He's one of those six. And he converted. Converted. YouTube generation. Yeah. I wouldn't have happened back in the day. No, no, no, no. They would have never let him out in the public. They would have tapped us get off. Okay. So landman is you. Yeah. I was wondering what you would do in a great Western. So it was a version of that. Correct. It's driving, buying rights, buying low selling high, trying not to go bankrupt, trying to make a deal when nobody can see the deal. Correct. Speculating. Okay. Yeah. Okay. And it's that crazy. Yeah, it is crazy. I remember you saying talk is cheap, but it costs money to buy whiskey or West Texas. Yeah. And that's West Texas. Yeah. No BS. Yeah. God forbid in place. It still is to this day. It looks like on the show. They used to say when you get a jet, the first one of my buddies who was a billionaire, he had a G2 at the time.

1:04:00You got to stand up and this sounds awful. Stand up like a real man. He was referring to the Middle Eastern guy as a short. Okay. You can stand up like a real man, daddy. You got to have a goddamn jet. You can stand up like a real man. You use my plane until you can afford to get one. Right. So you don't have those tiny jets. Exactly. You have the big jet. Correct. Stand up like a real man. Yeah. You can stand up like a real man. Okay. And a great, a great Western. You had a real man jet. Yeah. Okay. All right. So the next five years, if Trump stays longer, you're doing QLA, you're fixing the Catholic Church and you're enjoying your life a little bit. Yeah. More. Going to space and these kinds of things like that. Yeah. Okay. And the world under Trump, we're going to be okay. Yeah. But the other way is long term, we're kind of fucked. You mentioned AI, 20 to 60% of the jobs lost. Does that end in chaos everywhere? Can everybody be on a universal income? No. Are there going to be new jobs? Elon, who I will go. Elon is 100 years from now, they're going to say he was our current Michelangelo.

1:05:02Okay. Okay. But he said something yesterday, the day before, which took me back. He said that we're going to be in a no money, no job economy. Now, he wasn't talking 20, 40 years now, but he says the ultimate, no job, no money. And to me, that sounds like socialism. If there's another word for it, I don't know what it is. And he says the things that people bitch about now, he's always talking about woke. Nobody will care, because they're going to be taken care of. Now, he called it universal wealth. Yes. And that's more than how he did that. Yeah. Yeah. He's a smart guy. He's a super smart guy. You're a fan. Oh, yeah. I'm a big fan. I know some of the guys that not advise him, but he works with an ex-JP Morgan guy, who lives actually in Los Angeles. He pays a lot of money to solve problems.

1:06:03But he does sleep on the floor of the plants, and he does all that stuff. And now, when you suggest that, we had a deadline here a year or a half ago, one of the companies. And I don't care if anybody ever goes home. It was over Easter, I guess. I don't give a fuck. I don't care if you're a fucking wife's having a baby. If there's some other fuckers, I'm going to close it down, and I'm going to make sure I'm allegedly said this. Make sure that the pension plan goes bankrupt. It got done. Now, you shouldn't have to do that. Right. It's a shitty way to run a railroad. Okay. But you have to do that. I mean, fear still works. Right. And when I come to the sites, the banks don't want to meet with me. We had a banking meeting about 10 months ago, because Sally and I formed a big foundation, and we put a bunch of money in it. And they said, for the signing. And I wanted to go and get my, just like you took my picture. And Mr. Penn is busy.

1:07:04We can send a courier up from the signing there. Because I'll have a chairman about what about this? What about that? You know? They don't want to deal with you. No. Got some going on for decades, though. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Okay. If you fuck something up, I used to have a, oh, I just celebrated 50 years, a few years ago, American Express. I've had my black card or whatever it's called. I didn't get a letter. I didn't kiss my ass. Go fuck yourself. So I called, sort of making calls, and apparently I have a committee of six that are supposed to manage me. I never heard from these guys. And then, you know, I started bitching. Now, I was, when I was in the, at the Vatican, there was a senior guy who was part of my group of eight guys. And he made the same mistake when his 50 years came up. He called, and he said, I got a committee of five. I never heard of these guys. But on a, on a charge or on a spreadsheet, we've got people, you know, that have been there 50 years.

1:08:06I said, I did the same thing with Rolls-Worst. On for Rolls-Worst for 50 years, I actually got a blurb in the Rolls-Worst newsletter that I've had Rolls-Worst since I'm 26 years old. But service is, service if it's convenient in, in most places. And the pubs here used to be on Friday afternoon from a three, three, thirty. You couldn't get a beer because there were so overflowed. Yeah. Okay? Yeah. Or they were on the highways to go home. Or the tubes, you couldn't get even standing in the tube. But I want to get back and answer your question. Why I know it's fucked up. Now, you're old enough to remember. But it didn't happen so much. Two years ago, on about 118th Street, taking a subway towards Harlem. Okay. Forty-three-year-old woman was gang raped by three black guys. There was 42 witnesses.

1:09:0842. The sign is witnesses. Not one of them dialed 9991. Or is it 9991? Whatever it is there. Okay. One of them took a picture. And the 40 people marched that old lady could beat and rape again and again and again. That's where we are. That's beyond comprehension. And that's why we're fucked. We're fucked. We're immoral demise. Some people started with home. Maybe home in church. Maybe we're fucked. Isn't Trump turning it around? He's one guy. I know. If he becomes king like Putin. Putin. Then I'm praying for his health to be better. I know. And his hand to puff up. I'm his age. I know exactly what the fuck that is. You know what that is. And when your ankle is puff up. It's worse. It's such a something that happens. It happens as you get older. Okay. Right. Yeah. He looks tired.

1:10:08But he's going a hundred miles. He's going to sleep in a moment. In a cabinet meeting yesterday. Yeah. He actually falls asleep. Yeah. He was asleep. Okay. And whoever's sitting to his right. Rubio. Rubio, I think. Okay. No, whatever you do. Yeah. I mean, he works a lot. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I need more sleep than he does. Okay. Yeah. He does four or five hours or something. Yeah. I can't do that. The pace. When I was your age. I could do it. Right. Oh. My last trip to Europe. I decided. Can I still do what I got used to? So the first day I had eight meetings. The second day I had eight meetings. The third day I had nine meetings. The fourth day I had 12 meetings. I can't do it anymore. Really. I come home to the hotel. What's wrong with you? I don't feel like dinner tonight. And so it's not even dancing around and trying to make me happy. Maybe a drink. Maybe a drink can make you feel better. So I'd have a couple drinks and maybe feel, not that much better. But rather than disappoints out, we went out to dinner. And so, but I used to do those back-to-back jump on a plane.

1:11:12You know, because we were public in Amsterdam and London back and forth. Right. But I can't do that anymore. Okay. Well, no, no, jet lags. Not for eight-year-olds. It's real. Okay. For everybody else's in the moment. It's your account. Okay. Is London going to get better? Is the UK have any chance of turning it around? I always say there's no Trump. Not under current government. And the things I ran. I only got 700 votes. 703 votes. Yes. Okay. So you ran in front. The same things I said this government whoever gets in is going to do. They've done. Right. And up in Scotland, they said you're crazy. You're just a lion-American. And now they've done all these things. And whether the black hole was 6 million or 30 million, nobody's managed to finance here right since Korean War. NHS has been fucked up. Wilson, former prime minister in 1964, said on its 25th anniversary and its 20th anniversary. The day we signed the papers in 1947 and 48, NHS was fucked up.

1:12:12And now in 1964, their 20th reunion or whatever it is, it's still fucked up really. And I have the CEO, former CEO of NHS in one of my boards. He says, if you knew, if the public knew what I know, they'd be afraid to go to NHS. That bad. Big surprise. Are they going to break it up at some point? Well, their prime teachers are waiting. They're waiting with baited breaths. Yeah. Well, if they break it up, you'll stay another five years. I'll be the first trillion there because if they do break it up, there are multiple trillions to be made. And they should break it up, right? It should not be a public vehicle, right? I believe in universal health for old gets. And now that I am an old get, you know, when I go to the NHS, I went to get a booster, some fucking shot. Well, two other thing, two years ago, I was died from blood poisoning.

1:13:13I went in for a minor procedure and came home. And I wanted blood poisoning. And so I almost died at nine wells. But they came together. Somehow it's disorganized as they look. The five junior doctors didn't know how to spell doctor. But they figured it out. Oh, yeah. But I didn't die. They seemed to pull it off at the last minute. Yeah. How many people do they lose? Yeah. Yeah. I don't want to be the one that they lost. Okay. Now, they still say there's good AI talent. And there's still smart people coming from the UK. Correct. And I don't know if I never know if it's lip service. Like when Jensen from Nvidia comes over here, he said, oh, the UK has so much potential because of the universities. I can't ever tell if they're just lip service or is that actually true. Well, part of it's lip service. But man's greatest burden is unfulfilled potential. I mean, that's easy to say. But smart guys.

1:14:13But the smartest, the sea gates, jobs, jack wells amongst others said, the smartest people on the planet today all come from southern India. And if you look at the CEOs of the Fortune 500 companies in America. Okay. 75% are Indian. They're just naturally smart. And they have a gift. Their synapse is fire, vis-a-vis tech, especially AI. But AI is 75% of the AI startups are going to fail. Maybe 95, just like all the other failures. But there's a lot of money to be made. Are you impressed when you see the tech? It's something special and something different. Yeah. Well, I'm involved. I just took over as chairman seven or eight months ago or something that I didn't start. I rarely do that. But the kid came up. He's 33.

1:15:13And he's... You know how the guy that Zuckerberg's people offered 125 million and Zuckerberg made it 250 million? Was it the aquahire for that kid? The young kid? Yeah. Okay. He's that kind of kid. Okay. And he's just... He's too gifted for his own good. And the... He's just come up with a... It's AI in finance and... Okay. And it's... So you deep into it? Oh well. It's chairman. I rarely do. I bring Sally in the meetings with me, but she's attended almost all the meetings because there's some of the concepts. I'm too far behind to catch up. Okay. And I know when I'm too far behind to catch up, you know? But there's money there. A lot of... A lot of the... A zillion. Perliminary evaluation. 800 million. That's pre-money, pre-anything. Crazy. Crazy. That's where all the venture capital is going now,

1:16:13and the AI right, the last two years. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's... Nobody would have ever thought that possible. But the numbers, you know, when I was doing this in the 70s and 80s, if you made four or five, eight million dollars, you made a lot of money. Now, I mean, they got assistance making that kind of money. Yeah. All things crazy. Yeah. I mean, back when I was on Wall Street, those were the only guys making that kind of money. And now, you could be a YouTuber making that kind of money. I'm like, you know, and you could be 15 making that kind of money. But back in the day, it wasn't happening. Politics. Are you done? What was the experience like? You saw me run for mayor in 21. I don't think you thought it was a good idea. Are you told me later? No, no, no. Well, knowing you how I know you, is something you needed to do. I have to get out of my system. Yeah. It was like you had to. Yeah. Well, no, I did it for a different reason. I offered, first of all, the president of the, not NHS, but the little of a party,

1:17:13S&P, for one pound. I said, I'll do it for a pound. And until I turned it around, if I don't turn it around, I'll work there for a pound for the rest of my life. Okay. I got a nice letter. I was on the shortlist. The next week, they put Sweeney in. I'm told whether it's Jury or not. The only reason Sweeney took the job, because it's a thankless job. It's not curable. After, they lost 126 seats. They only had six left. The one that I lost, too, was one of the ones that got, he kept the seat. He seems like a good guy. But the, is the top of his pension. Because if you're, if you're a prime minister one day, you get a pension. It's prime minister. And so that's whether that's Jury or not, I don't have no idea. But politics is still in the clans. It's like the clans are still, up there in Scotland. Exactly. Exactly. Would you make of the whole process? I mean, Well, the process is archaic. Yeah. I mean, it's at least one or 200 years behind the times. Do you even want to be a politician? No, but I do know,

1:18:13I got almost a thousand requests. Can you guarantee me this? You know how they do a prime minister's questions? And I could not have done it in a full time, keeping my other business interests. So if I had been elected, I would have had to get rid of everything else. If I was going to do a good job. Yeah. So in that regard, you know, it worked out for the best for me. But I mean, I talked to politicians. And they talked. Everybody's got two agendas. And the third agenda is, how do I turn this experience when they throw me out into money? Yeah. Liz Truss just started a podcast. Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah. 49 days in office. And that's the other own podcast. By the way, I'm starting next month. The podcast. Really? First time? Oh my gosh. Wait, what's it called? Oh, yeah. You're interviewing people and you got them lined up, right? Everyone wants to be on your show. No, not everybody. But I mean, Why are you doing this?

1:19:15Because I still want to drag as many across the goal line as I can before I'm dead. Okay. And this is the best way to do it. Yeah. And so it's an additional way, additional tool for me to reach more people. When I go back, when I go to Tampa tomorrow and in between my board meetings, I have four podcasts with the guy named Ben David or BitDavid. Yeah. Patrick by David. Yeah. Nice. And some other guys, which I'm not familiar with because I don't follow that stuff. And everybody so far has made their time available because I have a tight schedule. And I appreciate that. The investment club. Today, I considered the best investment that I've ever made. We get four projects present in a week by their associated CEOs. Personally, I'm completely blown away by the quality of these projects. And I know of nowhere else

1:20:15where I would be given this same opportunity. Each week that passes, I feel more appreciative of fact that I'm a member of this group. The vibe was just tremendous. Everybody's on the same wavelength. We just clicked. Everybody listened to each other, enjoyed their company. It was just a magical. Magical. Take action. Don't take my word for it. Through Dylan's, you need to do. And I really hope that someday down the road, I see you in the club. It far exceeded expectations without questions. And I'm going to have one TV interview down there, Florida TV. And so, in the guy that's the head of the program as a Navy-CX Navy Seal, one of the only, not exaggeration. One of the only ones that I try to get to do my boots to suits. But I still remember when I called Jaco Waco. I mean, he, as a matter of fact,

1:21:16he says it took you 17 to figure this out, Mr. Benio. And I said, I kept thinking I'm doing something wrong. All came back with the same answer. Fuck. You know. Just not ready for that idea. No. Well, not, I guess not. Absolutely not. But now you're embracing social media. Now you're a social media star. Well, you turned me on to social media. I know. I'm going to hell for it. Yeah, yeah. You probably will go to hell for it. As long as I don't go to hell, that's fine. The... Yeah, that was 11 years ago. Correct. 11 years ago. And the... I still remember you walked me to the cab outside. Yeah. And you stood outside. It was a night and you said, Brian, can you see a green glow around me? And I thought, what the hell is that talking about? Yeah, well. And I looked, I couldn't see it. You said some people say I had a green glow. A lot of people... I believe this. I didn't believe this. But 21 years ago, now passed away, Sister Superior,

1:22:18in the St. Teresa, missionaries of charity, you're in a rocker ship to heaven, Mr. Peña. And we just want to hang along on the tail. That's what she said. Yep. I think you also said that night. You said, Brian, I changed people's lives, and I'm going to change your life, too. I do. I still do. Yeah. I still do. You still enjoy it? Yeah. You still go to kick out of it. I get a kick out of it. I'm proven wrong when the guy showed up, and I said it wasn't going to make it. You like that? Yeah, I like that. Being proven wrong. Well, yeah. But I'm not that often proven wrong. But I like that. And he... That was his driving force, though. I'm not saying that's bad, but that was his driving force. Of course. For sure, he's not going to make it. Yeah, he did that more. I said, you're never going to be another Josh Kim. Okay. Yeah. And we've got a guy who stopped at 56 billion. He stopped. He stopped. Went to sleep. And he got it on 500 billion.

1:23:22And I kept after him and after him. And then after two or three years, I said, well, that's it for him. He had enough. He had enough. Okay. Well, people say, well, 56 billion, then, you know, wins enough's enough. What's your number right now? Because it's a lot more than a trillion, isn't it? Oh, yeah. Well, when I met you, it was the 50 billion dollar man. That was it. And we kept it that way because one guy I could contact would stand up and say 50 billion, so I didn't have to go search for people that are endorsing me. Right. You could quantify it. Right. Thank you. And then by 2020 COVID time, you had to sign behind you and you were now the trillion dollar man. And then last time I heard, there's like 8 trillion. 8.6. That's a lot of money, Dan. Yep. And it's going to keep going up. Yep. What do you think it'll be in 10 years? Well, I had a short-term goal of 10 trillion.

1:24:22If Trump stays in office, the sky's the limit. Anything can happen. I can't quantify it. Do you think the stock market is just going to go up and up and up for the next few years? No, right now. Okay. Yeah. I came prepared. I had an interesting, I had a hedge fund guy, a pretty successful guy at the last seminar. And I was talking, I used to be a down theorist back in the day of charges and all that stuff. Really? Yeah. Bare. Yeah. Okay. When they say, I was an analyst, it's true I was. Really? Yeah, I didn't know that. And then you were a salesman. Yeah. But I like selling. And I could sell anything to anybody. I used to turn the charts upside down. Right. It's easier to sell when you have a chart. Yeah. But I mean, it didn't matter what the chart said. And so, I enjoy not being right so much. Sally says this is bullshit. But I enjoy taking a guy who, one of my mentors just died.

1:25:24He called himself the Hungarian Forest Gump. He used to make 30,000 euros a year. And having enough money to give his kids Christmas presents, he'd sell cookies at the malls during Christmas. Peter Heracity. He's dead now. Wow. Left side of the wife. 6,500 million. How old was he? 41. Was this guy rolling up the hospitals and stuff in Hungary? Yes. Really? Yeah. There were 17. I'm glad you remembered. Okay. Not a superstar. Absolutely. There were 17 potential candidates he could roll up. He eventually rolled them all up. Wow. Went from 30,000 euros a year to hundreds of billions. Hundreds. And he was just about to close his billion-year-old fund.

1:26:24But he died. What happened? He had a heart attack while pedaling his bicycle. Because he was working too hard for QLA. Yeah, well. Is that true or not? Well, well. A lot of guys died on your wall. And his wife would say that. And his wife was supposedly barren until he started QLA. She's got four kids. And the story. She's never told me this. I never talked about this. How would you like it? 51 little gorilla chewing on your nipple. Press feed. She wasn't happy with you about the kids. She had about 50. 51. The last one. Okay. Did QLA have something to do with his demise? Honestly. He made it. He made it. Got sloppy. He's not going to get it. He's a 401. That's young. Yeah. What was he working hard? Of course he was. Yeah. A dog. All right. And he still was. Even though he'd already made it. Yeah. Okay. They just moved into their 24,000 square foot house.

1:27:28On the lake, on 50 acres. He was playing tennis with the president of Hungary. He was the guy. He basically privatized their health care system. Yeah. No. He didn't own all the government stuff. Okay. That was his next move. Oh, his next move. He was going to bid for the government stuff. How do you feel when a guy like that dies? I feel emotional about it. Yeah. But like you're not the kind that gets emotional. No, I get emotional about stuff that I was close to him. He had come back to the seminar three times for nothing to try to, you know, and he'd say, and I'm just a Hungarian for his gump. I mean, 30 grand. And somebody in the audience says, that's not even minimum wage. I don't know if that is true or not. But fuck. Probably not. Hard-working little fuck. And when he would, he would, you know, email me or email camera. I need to talk to Dan. I'm not sure what to do now. And I talked to him. And I said, he's jerking you around.

1:28:28He's probably already sold to somebody else. And when we did the research, you already sold the fucking company. 18 months before. And he's jerking poor Peter around for 18 months before he did his first deal. Okay. All right. So you were helping him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then boom, he was the star. Yeah. And then he's dead. And the wife blames you. Who knows? Well, a lot of guys die around you. Wouldn't your Gulf Western, the guy that took over his president, did he die? Correct. And he was like, Charity Saturday, marathon runner. He was 42. He was the best in heart rate, 40 or something crazy. And he died on the sofa in your house, I think. Yeah, yeah. Correct. It's all very suspect. He's a boxer. A Z? Like me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. But he was a real athlete. He had been an all-american football player. Yeah, I'm not. I know. And I still went in there. Yeah. Well, you know, more power to it. It was as much scarier than doing an Iron Man race. Let me tell you, going to the boxing ring. Yeah. Now, remember, I started boxing at the seminars. The original idea was, I was fighting everybody.

1:29:28Me? Right. Okay. It only lasted a couple of times because my insurance wouldn't cover me. You did this in the 90s? Or this came when you did it in the 90s, the first time. In the OK. So you'd done it. Yeah, yeah. And the guys, you know, they said you were lucky just because you knocked all these guys out. Well, maybe it was. Maybe it wasn't. I was also 25 years younger. Okay. And I could hit like a fucking train. So you used to fight everybody. Yeah. Okay. I didn't know that. And then when you were there, they said, remember that somebody wanted you to fight me. And then you said the comment was, have you? I was taking a look at his shoulders. Look how thick he is. You said something like that. Yeah. But these guys, occasionally we get a guy that knows what he's doing. I mean, really knows what he's doing. But that's so rare. Yeah. The guy's trained just to come to the seminar. This is the first time we haven't had somebody seriously hurt this last one. Yeah. We cut that part out. That doesn't go on YouTube. Yeah. We had some, we had some, we had the best fight we ever had were two women.

1:30:28I didn't know one was AAU and one was something else fun. But Oklahoma or something. Okay. And they, they really could fight. They went on it. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I think it's a big part. And they recognize each other from the golden glasses. No way. Yeah. And they still went on it. Yeah. The boxing is good. You know, I was, I did it with you. I was scared. Nobody wanted to fight because it was a hard core. So I thought everyone's going to fight. I thought the Goomba brothers were going to fight. And I was like, all right guys, we're all going to fight. And they're like, no, no, we did it when we were at the regular seminar. And so it was, it was like four of us that fought that night. And then I had some dude that was eight kilos heavier than me. I'm walking back to the castle to get changed. And I said, uh, I said, uh, you ever do any boxing before? And he's like, no, never. Just Thai boxing. I was like, I remember that. I remember that. And then I went in there and he was trying to take my head off. But that planted the seed in me. And then when I got the chance a few years later, I decided I needed to do it. So who, who are you fighting next? Look, I've had two fights. Every time I say, can you get someone my age with no experience, they always come back

1:31:31and say, I got to get this 27 with fights. Or this, I can, I'll shout out to African kid, 19, six foot three. Oh, yeah. It's, it's, it's no experience. I was like, yeah, right. But look, I'm glad. I'm glad he was game. I didn't want somebody I could just take out. And he pushed me. He hit me hard. And then I found out if I, if I was going to be there. And so it was good. He did well. He was, I'm glad. I agree. If the fight had gone longer. I would have had it. Yeah. Thank you. I appreciate it. I thought that was going to be a draw. That one. The thing is, is that I slipped and went down on a knee. And then Singapore, you know, they only employ Singaporeans. So he had this old lady was, who was the breath. Like, I don't even know. She's been in a boxing match before. And she's going in an eight count on me. I don't know what the fuck was going on because a guy had to hit me like eight times in the head. And apparently I was supposed to protest it. And be like, no, I'm fine because I, he didn't actually. Well, actually your manager or your coach is supposed to protest it. So I should, so he picks somebody off the street. No, it'll be your second, right? Chris is my good. He's been very, very for 20 years. But you're like, we both realized later we should have said something. Now, might not have made a difference. But that, that loses me a point right there.

1:32:32Mm-hm. But, you know, professional boxing. And every point counts. And every point, but a professional boxer, David, hey, said I won the next two rounds. So I should have won. But it's okay. I'm still glad I did it. Look, the problem is Dan is a month before the fight. Now, wait, you wake up at 2 in the morning. All you're thinking about is this fucking kid. He's going to fucking kill me or I'm going to kill him. And it just, it takes a lot of mental bandwidth. Well, some of my other mentees are boxing each other. Real estate guy from down south named Reed boxed another one of my mentees. And they put each 100 grand up. Okay. And the kid beat the older guy. And then I just, he just sent me another one where he fought. And it was a split decision this time. And the, so there are people, not everybody loves each other. They do these podcasts. And if you say something bad about somebody, and then they're with cousin or their wife or somebody, and then they want a box. It's a good experience. I'm glad you're doing it at the castle. Because you tell the kids, if you can get in the ring,

1:33:33it makes cold calling look like a trap. And you're right. I agree. And you're right. Then you ask yourself, I'll be honest. And look, you taught me a lot about fear, Dan. And look, I wouldn't have been in the ring without you. Let's be honest. I wouldn't run from mayor without you. I wouldn't have done that. I'm enraged without you. I wouldn't have a lot of things without you. Because I now look at fear as something I need to engineer into my life. That's QLI. Well, you're already an engineer too much. Yes. Okay. But at least I try to engineer fear or risk into my life. Whereas before I was running away. There's no way of mitigating risk. Right. But I'm trying to put myself in things that have a lot of upside and downside. Because like you always said, everyone, nobody remembers your failures. They always remember your wins. Correct. Same with me. So that's what I learned from you and QLI. I didn't roll companies, but I learned to try to embrace risk. I'm sure I need to do more. Yeah. I need to do more, right? And the older you are, the harder it is to start. And when we tell the old gets, you know,

1:34:34it's when your 20 years old doesn't mean shit, you know. Yeah. But I have my first boxing match at 53. The kid was 27. I was 54. The kid was 19. All right. So there you go. But everybody, all of a sudden, look at a great shape. He's in Japan to say that? No, but I'll take it. But on the opposite side of that, I think I might have mentioned it. We have guides that come to the seminar just to work up the courage to take somebody out for a coffee. You know, after three years and then she says, no. Right. And I can't believe that, you know. I was going to go to 24 hour fitness at 3.30 in the morning. Next time I'm in New York, I'm going to meet this bitch, you know. The one that said no. Yeah. That's way beyond my comprehension. But you're teaching these kids. Yeah, absolutely. And I still enjoy that. But when they, when I teach them, and as a direct result of those teachings, they carry across the goal line.

1:35:37That's when I feel the best. When, you know, because now I've taught them something, you know, that they can use in their future life. And it affects all, as you well know, it affects all your life. Not just, you know, your personal life, the, but I mean, self-esteem is a motherfucker if it's not built in the first seven right years. The Catholic Church used to say in their homily, pre-Vatican Council of 1965, you give us, in Latin, you give us your children the first seven or eight years and we will own them for life. They've taken that out now, you know, but that's what they used to say because that's when self-esteem's built. The Spartans, the same thing, first seven or eight years. Yeah. But most of the kids that are walking the streets here and that are listening to this would have been thrown in the pitch. They would, they wouldn't have got to be a Spartan because, you know, you know, what good reason. And everybody's got rights now, even the kids. Especially the kids.

1:36:38So how do we turn this around? Or if you're somebody who listen and you're about to have kids, how do you parent in a way where your kids don't be called? There's a book by the famous book written by Spock. That your mom had. Yeah, my mom got by Serendipity when she's walking through the line. She got the reader's digest version and she happened to get it and she used that like the Bible and the, but it didn't, it didn't teach aggression that book. It taught, even handed and looking at the other person's position. In the hood where I grew up, you weren't interested in the other gang's position, you know, your position was the Holy Grail. Okay. And so, but your mom, my mom saw through that and it was almost impossible for my dad because he was the antithesis of that. And to the day he died, my dad, when he was 86 or 87, tried to kill his doctor and I mean, so,

1:37:38so your mom was the yang to his yin and that's why you are who you are today. Yeah. Because mom was listening to Dr. Spock. Yeah. Okay. Alright, so try to raise your kids stronger. And today's world is even more important because now you have a million choices. I mean, information is almost instantaneous or it is instantaneous, really. And a lot of the information, if not most of the information, depending on your political persuasion, it is a horse shit. I mean, it's not teaching you any any good values. They're going to institute the draft in Germany again. I just heard this morning, Jesus Christ, you would have thought that came back. Germany's more woke than a London, New York or whatever it could be, right? That's what I hear. Yeah. I got people moving to Dubai from Germany and they pulled me aside and they say it's so bad there. Yeah. I wouldn't recognize it. He's right. He's right. And they're not the most woke. There's other places that are worse. In the United States, the belt of support for Donald Trump are the least woke, you know,

1:38:47Central America, not Central America, Central United States. But the, I mean, there's some, some, some, a communist is now mayor of New York. Yeah. I saw that. Which is, I don't know if it should be hard to believe, but it's, it happened. Yeah. I'm Muslim. Well, he didn't call himself a communist. He calls himself something else. Social Democrat. Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, we'll see if he actually does that stuff. Yeah. But yeah, I got him elected, right? Yeah. And the city is upset. But there's a lot of people upset in the United States. And what's it like when you go there? Well, you said that New York feels like. There's animals in vibrant again. Oh, God. It's like they, they unlocked the cages at the zoo. Okay. And there's the US in general is a little bit more of a lot of business. Well, I mean, certain pockets. Okay. The Eastern Seabird is very business oriented from Washington, D.C. actually from, not Maine, but Washington, D.C. to the Keys.

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1:40:50will end soon. I told my bestie crypto to be scary, that's why I got a Georgia investment club in the trigger. Let's do this. But healthcare, when I told Rick Scott, who was my lawyer, when he left me, I said, you got to go, where should I go down? I said healthcare, or I said teleco, which was internet at the time. And healthcare was going to 3% a year in 1985, 86. It's not going to 30% a year, 30. With no sign of its slowing down. People are living longer, they want to live longer, and contrary to what the social media and the news say, which obviously as a liberal tent, they can afford it, to grow older. When I was born, the average age of a male was like 54 or 55, now it's 87 or 86, something like that. And in my family, men lived to the early 90s, the mid 90s, and women lived from light 90s

1:41:55to early 100s. When I was doing a push up, my dad smoked five to six packs of cigarettes a day, till it was 88, he lived in 91, and he drank at least a fifth of alcohol, spirits a day, from the time he was 18 to 88, and never did a push up, lived in 91. So if I don't live to 120, I mean, it's because somebody shot me, I mean, there's no fucking way. Otherwise you're in good health. Yeah, I'm in good health. Besides a bad blood, blood whatever, a couple of years ago, I was in good health. It just shows, it goes to show you though, when I got blood poisoning, playing can go down. Right. So I'm stupid can happen. Yeah. Black swan. Yeah, I always tell the net fuck, net jet guys, it's depending where you're piled, I still like to give you money. Yeah. You give a little kind of thing. Yeah, always. Just in case. Yeah. Before we take off. Yeah. Just to make sure that you're thinking about me and Sally in the back.

1:42:55Smart. Yeah. Smart. You said, you think I should be taking more risk? Yep. You always tell me that. Well, I do because I mean, you have more or less a riskless model. Okay. And I know more or less what you do, and there are ways of taking risks what you do, and you know them better than I. And you're not doing that. Okay. You, you more or less, and I may be missing words here, you have a quasi-subscription model. Okay. If it was a, you're very schooled, academies, et cetera, et cetera. And that's not, that's, you know, there's little or no risk for you other than that. You have to sell them the, the re-up or take another class or an expanded class. And you know, how long? It's like when a bit fuck got up to 117,000, four years ago. You know, I said I'm not, I'm not for it, but as a trader, an old trader, I would sell

1:43:59a third, keep two thirds. When bit fuck got up to 125 or 30 just here recently, I said sell a third, keep two thirds. And one other time I said when it had a big spike. And if you do the math, as they say here, instead of math, which I don't understand what I say math, I mean, you'd still have, you know, about 40% of your Bitcoin that you started with, okay? And I have five or six Bitcoin billion there's not because of me. They got in Bitcoin, we got two Romanian brothers from Chicago. They got in Bitcoin at 50 bucks, 80 bucks, okay? And they went on dips, they've just continued to buy, they've continued to buy, I haven't talked to them in a year or two, but I'd rather be lucky than smart. But Jamie Dimon's more or less has my attitude, which is kind of a cross between his attitude and Charlie Munger and Warren Buffett, if my clients, even if they're idiots, and they want it, I'll make a market. And so Wall Street, when PayPal said you could buy it with bit fuck, and then when you could

1:45:01buy a fractional bit fuck, it's here to stay until some catastrophic black swan thing happens. And we try to fall in. And the Trump family's all in, and the kids are all in, and he's pushing it, and now it's become mainstream thing. They got the ETF and all the banks want to get into blockchain and... Yeah, well, it's mainstream when the Fed does it, and that hasn't happened yet. No, I don't believe it is going to happen. Or it goes on the U.S. balance sheet, I mean, strategic reserve, yeah, that hasn't happened yet. Oh, maybe it will. And it's volatile as hell, you know, and most people can't handle it. That volatility. Yeah, a third of the people were at the seminar in November, and I wasn't even following it, paid to come to the seminar with bit fuck. A third. A third. Okay. And I went from, when it crashed you, a hundred, yeah, the seminar was on in November, and you could see in the audience, I mean, it looked like they were sitting on eggs, you

1:46:06know, and the kids load up, you know, if you've got two percent or five percent of your assets, that's one thing. But if you've got a majority of your assets in it, you're going to live a very volatile life. Yeah, and you don't recommend that. But the kids do that, right? Absolutely. Because they feel entitled, they should be able to make money faster. And one of the things that somebody told me here recently, people complained about the property ladder. They had explained what that meant to me. I don't, you mean you can't afford to put a down payment on a house, right? Yeah. And then you can't buy the next house because you don't have the first house. Okay. Well, that was same with me when I bought my first house. I just went out and worked harder and increased my revenue so I could buy the first house. That's what Cardo unsaid to me two days ago. He said, all these people bitch him on, he said, it's easier on a house today than it wasn't 58 because you can go get the money. Yeah. That's what he said. But everyone just says they can't afford it because there's so much higher than it used to be. They're right about that.

1:47:06Okay. Yeah. I mean, if I had to, if I had to keep our two penthouses in my estate, Southern California, that's easily 100 million in today's market value, just sitting on that real estate. Yeah. But I sold them off, but I'm not concerned about that because I made it up in other ways. And so, but I don't worry, Sally was telling me last night at dinner. You don't worry about the stuff that most of us worry about. And I said, I don't worry about anything because I know like I took a shit this morning, I can always make more money. Okay. I had to give the gap, I should have been Irish since I'm seven, eight years old. So as long as they don't cut my fucking tongue out, I'm not worried about making more money. I've lost, I was trying to add up if I've lost a billion dollars, I've lost 800 and plus a million dollars in my life lost, lost, okay, off the balance sheet and I made it back.

1:48:12And so, but most people are worried that they can't make it back and that's never been my concern. And what do you worry about? I worry about now, I've got a real project that warrants my being serious, keeping the Catholic Church is one recession away from bankruptcy. Muslims not Christianity in general is not okay, seven they had, and it's a month. Scientology is not. No, they are flush with cash, but they didn't lose seven or eight billion that they had to pay in reparations for all the bad things they did. And in Los Angeles, the 1.56 billion they paid was dating back to 1930. So the guys from 1930 to 1995ish, 2000, you know, like Pontius Pilate was, it wasn't us, it wasn't us. But almost every single pope, not almost every single pope that was involved knew about that. They just knew about that motivate you.

1:49:14Yeah. Okay. Because I know I can do it. Right. Okay. I see one. I want to be altar boy, who never got to be an altar boy. I mean, how'd you screw that one up, Dan? Well, my parents didn't have eight dollars to buy me a little uniform. Okay. Okay. Okay. What else do you worry about? You worry about your reputation. Yeah. That's important to you. Brand. Your brand. You worry about how you're going to be remembered. Yep. Okay. Yep. How are you going to be remembered? Right. For, you know, the 25 million jobs I've created, et cetera, et cetera. I'll be gone. I have to be gone. But the deal I'm making with the church, I'm going to do this. Listen. Here we go. It is. Point my death. Okay. I'm going to be canonized. It canonizes the process of recommending you to be a saint. No, no, no. I'm already in that process. Oh, really? Yeah. Before you're dead. Yep. How do you pull that off? I mean, since reason was, you know, she was helping people. I can sell anything to anybody. Okay. So you're going to be a saint? Correct. What are they going to call you? Saint Pena? Well, I haven't picked a name yet.

1:50:14You can pick a name. Yeah. Like, I like Saint Daniel. Oh, so you can choose one of your names. Or anybody's name. Good, my name. Maybe. Saint Daniel. Yeah. Saint Daniel, maybe? Yeah. Okay. Not Saint Pena. Yeah. There's no other Saint Pena, is there? No. Mother Teresa, that's her first name. So she's, is she a saint now? Oh, yeah. She's Saint Teresa. Yeah. I don't think it took 25 years after she died. Yeah. But they just made a kid, 16 years old, a saint. Saint Carlo. He was 16 years old when he died. He's only been dead two or three years. They made him a saint about a month ago. How's that work? Internet. Blockchain. Blockchain. Blockchain. You got voted. Yeah. Okay. All right. So you're going to get canonized and you want to become a saint. Correct. Okay. You want to be remembered. You're going to, the digital footprint is going to be how you're remembered. Is there going to be a, are you going to leave us with an AI version of you? Well, it's going to be a hologram. Okay. When I die, all my stuff, including the stuff that's 98% of everything I do is already online.

1:51:16Right. It's the 2%. The nuances. That's the good stuff too. Yeah. It's a lot of the good stuff. And it's a lot of the webinars. It's a lot of the, in person talks that the guys give about your, your email inbox. Like, what if you could get that into an AI, you know, all your private conversations? Well, you can. Right. Yes. You can. And the, I will put it open source. Is that the right word, open source? Yeah. I think so. So, open source, everything. Free to everybody. And with a hologram, in fact, as I, I don't think I'm ever going to be so ill, I can't give the seminar. But if that were to happen, we're already working on a hologram that's going to sit in my chair in front of the twin and not a man thing. Okay. And give it to you. And answer the questions. Well, you asked the question. The AI's figuring out what the answer is. Yeah. And then can you dial it up to like, super nasty grumpy Dan, or we have Dan after two more teens. And we haven't worked on that many details yet, because that would be good.

1:52:17Because some guys, I mean, you got guys that beat themselves, right? The QLA bot. Correct. So they could turn it up if they need a little bit. And if it's just too much Dan, they could turn it down a little bit, you know? Yeah. But I would rather turn it up, not turn it down. Somebody heard you were coming back and they're like, um, how's it going to be with Dan? And I said, I said, Dan in private is much worse than Dan all of a sudden. Yeah. Especially when you haven't seen me for a while. And you see me, at least the first hour, you're brutal to me. Like you lay into me. I remember that. Well, you can't use this as an example. I didn't say anything brutal. No, no, not here. But I mean, privately you do. Oh, yeah. Yeah, publicly. I mean, well, you should have. You could have. It's like, what the hell are you doing, Brian? What are you doing with this? What are you doing with this? Whether it's at the castle. And if you should live to be 80, which is doubtful, easy. No, no. Did you see how good a shape they said I was in? I should have been in the ring with you. That could be a ring. 54 and 80.

1:53:17Okay. You saying you want some of this? No, no, no, no. No, no, no. I said, I should have been. The five-one that lasted as long as it did. Believe me. So you're saying you're going to beat me. Categorically. We should put this in. No question. My military is really mine. I can snap your neck from here. Right. Would Sally let you fight. I wouldn't tell her. Yeah. Okay. You were saying, oh, I'm not going to live to 80. It's worth it. Yeah, but if you should live to 80, you're going to look back, what should I have done? Okay. And I can already give you a list of 40, 50 things that I should have done already. Already. And you're only 54 or 55. Okay. Okay. May 17th. Oh, the day after my mom, May 16th. That's right. So it's the same message. Take more risk. Do more. Stop screwing around. Yeah. I mean, you have a following. It doesn't matter whether you deserve the following. The fact is you have it.

1:54:17Same thing I told you years ago. Yeah. And what are you going to do with it? You know, I'm not at this similar talk I had with Grand Cardone. I don't get any credit for creating those billions he's got. Yeah. But the interview I had with them that he took off the air is why he's rich. Right. Were you told them to take the social benefits? Exactly. And he did it. Yeah. I don't know which of the stories is true. One is that when I left a day later, he fired a bunch of people and he started over again. I don't know if that's true. Or he took four or five months to, you know, see who could adapt and who couldn't adapt. But he was sitting on. I told him billions and assets that you could take a two percent management, fill up the top and get yourself that. 650, which I think he's got now. And in assets? No, no. The plane. The plane. Oh, yeah, yeah. Now he's got a 650. Yeah. And he put a million dollars extra in air.

1:55:17Air not. No. Yeah. What do you call avionics? Avionics. So you're saying, do the same thing. Take my audience, whether you agree I should have or not. Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. By the way, you used to call a bunch of losers, but, you know, they're older now. Okay. So there's a million. Doesn't make them, they're not losers. All right. But still. And you're saying, do something bigger with it is what you're saying. Okay. We did something. Not many people have gifted a base in their lifetimes. True. True. We started earlier than most. And then we did stay focused longer than most. Maybe sometimes to my detriment. You know, we kept doing the thing back in the day. Yeah. And then that built the audience over time. And then we didn't really know what was there until one day it said geometric progression. And then in year nine it was like, oh, there are a lot of people watching. But there's more you can do it. Look in the last few years, you know, we did something with it in the financial space. You know, we built a venture firm and we've done bigger things that we ever did in the past. A little bit like Grant Cardone. I was explaining them all to him and he was like, oh, interesting.

1:56:18But there's more we could do. Absolutely. But we'll see, not the flip side, in conjunction with that, you can always do more. Yes. Okay. Very few models you can't do more. Very few. Yeah. Okay. And how do you teach someone to see that they're not doing more when they think they're telling themselves every day? I have to do more. With very difficulty. Right. I mean, you need to do more. That's why, you know, the guy who's done 56 billion has stopped. Right. He was just, I mean, he was just, he was just got the front wheels off the runway. That's enough for me. I remember I was choked. I was at an airport. Because that's your number. Yeah. But he had enough for whatever reason. For whatever reason. And you've seen that a lot. I've seen that before. You've seen that before. A lot of guys quit earlier. Yeah. I want to be billionaire. They make $80 million. I never hear from him again. Right. Because they don't want the hard chip, the pressure. They say that's what happened to Connor McGregor.

1:57:19He got too much money. And then is a point where you don't want to get up. You don't want to get punched in the face anymore. And you don't want to. Is he ever going to fight again? The White House fight has gotten a lot of guys excited that we're in retirement. So Connor says he wants to fight at the White House. Because, you know, for these guys, they have to get up for something. You know, just another fight. It's not interesting for him. Another $10 million is an interesting for him. But the White House, I think he's trying to book that. You mean the fight in the White House? Yeah. For the 250th anniversary of America. Trump is holding a UFC at the White House in July 4th next year. The fighter is going to walk through the Oval Office. Only Trump could do that. And his buddy Dana. Yeah. So get a mentor that can tell you you're not doing enough. Or be in a system. What but you can do that. Well, it's easier if you have the mentor. How do you do it? Well, I don't have anybody to tell me. I know, but how? Well, no. It's because the... You don't need to anymore.

1:58:19No. Every day from... When I take my first pee to when I go to sleep, it's... I think QLA. I mean, and to a certain extent, the 20 plus companies I'm involved with are already... Every day each one of them pushes one of the buttons that they made a mistake on. Okay? And so that keeps it fresh. The fact that I speak... I do these podcasts. Some are challenging, most aren't. Speaking at the universities, I like better because the kids... Because when you're at Oxford or you're at the Wharton, or you're at the University of Toronto, and you come to my talk, it's because you're not part of the norm. Right. You're different. And so they ask different kind of questions. The real question that should be asked by everybody that listens to me, or comes to the seminar, or listens to any of my stuff online, is...

1:59:21It's just really for me. All the other questions are bullshit, perfunctory bullshit. But if you answer that one of two ways, if it is, you really think it is, or because if you're going to only try, you're going to fail. Okay? And if you say no, you save yourself a lot of time, a lot of effort, a lot of seminars, a lot of podcasts, a lot of books, et cetera, et cetera. And for most people, it's not for them. It just isn't. You know, I sat for nine years, for 11 months, three weeks, I devoted 100 to 120 hours a week to QLA. How do you get out of a rat race? How do you create wealth not only for yourself, but also for the generations to come after? I am absolutely amazed with the quality of companies that we're getting exposure to. We go on to Zoom calls with the innovators, and the folks who are building new applications in metaverse, blockchain, artificial intelligence,

2:00:21decentralized finance. What's going on, everybody? Thumbs up if you can see me. We are focusing on early stage investments. And the quality of people that we're getting exposure to, whether it be Dan Tapio, with 1RT, Jason Ma, from Open, Yatsu, from Anamoka. This being a phenomenal experience was far. It has far exceeded my expectations. We are focusing on cutting-edge technologies. I view it as the best investment I've ever made. The upside, I view, is unlimited. And as a retail investor, I would never get this exposure anywhere outside of investment club. See you in the investment club. At the expense of my God, my family, my kids, everybody, okay? And that last week to make 10 years, I looked at the phone, and this is before all the internet shit, I couldn't do it anymore. I just was spent, okay? A good portion of my network today is still responsible for those 10 years. That's you doing the model before you started teaching it.

2:01:23Correct, right, okay? And then I found that, you know, I made a half a billion dollars, not overnight, six, seven years, but I didn't find it hard. But I can sell anybody anything. I mean, that guy that asked that girl for a coffee and she said, no, after three years, I can't relate to that. I just can't. I still be sitting there asking her. It's 17 knows before you get a yes. Anybody that knows anything about sales knows that. How many times do they ask, two, three, four? It's like the famous question. And when you were there, you didn't ask it. They said, we're talking about this talking guy at 10 o'clock in the morning. And how soon is too soon to get back to him, Mr. Pena? And I said, 10 in the morning? 10, 30. And they're talking about three weeks from now. I never went through a, I never went through a role for a business deal. No, but, oh, either one. Okay, you know? I mean, I just get on it. Yeah, and I,

2:02:23and I have a rhino skin, sadly caused me a rhino skin to this day. You can't hurt my feelings when I came here in 81. I used to say, I'm an American. You can't hurt my feelings. Just give me the fucking money. Just like that. And I got it. I still say the same thing. The bankers don't want to talk to me. Because I mean, I will, I mean, you got to have a, and I'm very numerous. I can understand this shit without a calculator, whatever. And I, you know, you got to have a good fucking reason to talk about string tests and all this bullshit. I was doing that shit before you were a grammar school kid, common negative covenants and all that shit. The, the key is, when you sign up, the first agreement, nothing's going to get better than the first agreement. It's, and that's unmanaging people. It's easy to start top and loosen. If you start loose, you can never tighten. Same with raising kids. Now, I overdid it with my kids.

2:03:23I was too strict with my kids. I wish I beat him more, but I didn't, you know, but the rules of the castle were too much. Yeah, I mean, butlers, you know, that's not for general and all that. And, and, they had tennis pros and golf pros and, you know, they should have not paid any money. Is it true? They're not getting any inheritance. None. And you said that. They say they're okay with it, but they say, they're not. I know they're not. Especially your son. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. He can't be okay with it. And why won't you? They're already grown. Why wouldn't it matter? Yeah, because the principal. No, it's not, it has nothing to do with the principal. It has to do with the fact when you earn the money yourself, it's not the same as when daddy gave it to you. And even though, if Trump got four million or four hundred million, I don't know which one is true. I mean, he's still in the back of his head. Knows that he didn't start from scratch. Okay. Got it. And that eats it a man. And you don't want them to have that feeling. It's the wrong kind of money. It's the same reason. One of the reasons you get in the ring.

2:04:23Why? Tell me. I've told you before. Okay. Why? Your dad's a better person to answer that question. Okay. Well, so I've been talking to my dad and then, No, you're not. I mean, I saw you feeling an interview in the months. Well, whenever that was. I don't think my solutions lie in my dad. No. No. They emanated from your dad. Okay. And more so than any, any son and other. No, no, no. Yeah. Maybe more so. Really? Yeah. Okay. Because Caltech mentality, it couldn't cope. Well, I couldn't cope with his mentality. Caltech. Yeah. You know exactly what I'm talking about. Tell me. So go back and listen to your interview. Okay. Seriously. Okay. So he's a Caltech guy. I know. He doesn't have a lot of emotions. Duh. Okay. And that's what's stopping him. You've only developed emotions in the last 10 or 15 years. Maybe that's true. Not maybe. And that's what's stopping me. Not having my emotions. My emotions. What initiated you not reaching out and taking risks.

2:05:27Because you knew what the answer was when you failed. You knew the answer before he said it. Because if I failed, he wouldn't love me. Well, only you know that. I don't know that. Okay. But some people's love is not worth it. Okay. But you're saying that the root of my lack of risk taking is me not feeling I'll be loved if I fail. No. The root of your lack of risk taking is low self-esteem. Okay. And it had, well, worse than, better now. Yeah. A lot better now. Okay. And getting in the ring does help. Yes. It's better if you got in the ring. And both fights got knocked out in the first round. It's not likely. Maybe you went ahead the second fight. Right. If I got knocked out. True. Yeah. Yeah. I was thinking about my kids and mental health. Well, we had a guy recently who's one of my gazillionaires. It said that, well, what if he damaged some of my brain cells?

2:06:28And I'm not as numerous. Yeah. And I said, well, that's a hand job. Fucking, you know. Yeah. It's all bullshit. Yeah, exactly. But you try to talk to yourself out of it. I can see all my, my brain told me this. It was like, it gave me all these worse scenarios, Dan. And I was just like, I didn't want to go in the fucking ring. And then I was like, but I have to go in the ring. In other words, it was like, that's all bullshit. Correct. 95% of the things we worry about never happened. I was at a board meeting a year ago right now in Toronto. And we, and Sally had joined us in our lawyers and accountants and all these people. This is a 500 million dollar company revenue. And we decided, it was snowing. And decided to walk back to the hotel for dinner. For drinks. We just had dinner. And so one of the guys says, well, there's a shortcut here. So some allies and some shit. So the you, the, the mentee and the deal, uh, sturdy fit. Uh, good looking black guy. Like a black James Bond. Okay. And so we walk through. And then there's, uh, uh, the, the other board members are lagging behind. And three black guys step out in the alley.

2:07:29Big guys. And I'm thinking I'm wearing a hundred thousand dollar top coat. So it's going to get fucked up and ripped up. And I'm. So the kid and me, the kid stayed by my side. We won't go by. Is it? Okay. So we're going to fight or dance. We're just, we're stopping you, Mr. Penny. We want your autograph. The rest of the board members disappeared into the night. Hey, assholes. Are we going to fight or dance? So that's the state of the world today. A bunch of pussy's. Well, they're not too many people that would say fight or dance. No, not many. They all scattered. But you were. No, no, the three. No, the three guys. And then they came back to the bar with us. And, uh, one of them was starting a vodka company and some shit. And. But we worry about shit that doesn't happen. I agree. I agree. But I was worried about my hundred thousand dollar coach. It all fucked up.

2:08:30But maybe by doing things, I become the man I need to be. Well, I mean, you're closer to the man that, when I first met you, I agree. I agree. I agree. You already said two or three times during this interview, who changed? I helped change you. Yes. Okay. But you don't change unless you're ready for change. True. Okay. And it took me to one of the things were harder for you to change from. Yes. And some were hard into. But you did just like in the ring. You didn't die from them. Did you? No. No. And it took me too long. It's 11 years, Dan. It's a long time. It's been here. And here's the crazy thing. In the first few years after we met, I was talking about a fund. I was going to raise a fund. It was doing the tech show at the time. And then ten years later, I actually did it. And I'm watching myself do it with the blockchain fund and all these things. And I'm like, why the fuck didn't I do this ten years ago? And you were telling me to do it. But I couldn't get my head around it. Well, but now I can't. Okay. There's a famous guy out there that says he's read 700 books.

2:09:32He says he's read 700 books on change in psychology and blah, blah, blah. Okay. And I'm sure there's at least 700 books on sex. I don't know. I've never read one. But I can ask the audience that read the 700 books on sex. Do they compare to actually having sex? No. You can study, get ready for, now spreadsheet. The last spreadsheet I did was before spreadsheet, what was it called? Lotus 123. Yeah. Lotus 123. That's the last time I did one. Okay. It's either hotter, it's not. That's what I used to sell. It's either hot or not. Yeah. But it's still a tough thing to get through to people. It just is. And a lot of your kids take time. Well, because they're afraid of making a mistake. We had an old guy, a retired guy. He was 67 years old. And he built two or three companies, sold them off. And he was on his third or fourth wife. And now he's got a girlfriend just made his wife who's 30.

2:10:34Okay. And he says, I'm here because I thought that I had made enough money to last the fourth wife. But I know now I'm not. I haven't. So I got to make another fortune. And he's Swiss guy, funny as hell. And then I said when they were asking questions at that drinks at the end of the seminar. And he says, well, we're really afraid of Mr. Pendian, no matter what we say or what we do, that we can't perform. Just because you bring a thousand people in front of us. And they all did it. The Goomba brothers and the this, the valley, okay. And then we're the thousand and one. And we can't. And that's, and that's the basic fear. And that's why the longest deals are that we have been able to keep track. 12 and 13 years it took him. 12 and 13 years. The last group were averaging about three years. But since you were there, we had a guy doing 26 days. This is the pickfucker. Pickfucker. Heard about him. 26 days. Congratulations.

2:11:34And he's already retired. Really? Yeah. He made about 40 million pounds. And he's gone. He got him a clarin and something else. And he's about three feet tall. He's got real, ruddy skin. And he thinks that his, his comb and his hair different. And that's why the girls like him. Give me a fucking break. Okay. Look at the monsters you create. Yeah. I mean, it's so serious. But I mean, you can fabricate almost anything to yourself. You can come up with a bullshit reason. Sure. But yeah, you got in the ring. I think what I need to keep doing is taking more risk and getting more uncomfortable. No, you have to talk with my daddy. You have to learn to be comfortable being uncomfortable. Okay. But I don't think a talk of my dad is going to get me there. Well, I don't know. Well, I don't want to know how fucked up your relationship is with him. But I know a lot of the guys, when you hear, you know, because I don't have, I don't have dinner with one guy, remember,

2:12:38and I don't have lunch and I don't have breakfast. But they were talking about daddy issues. And so when you're in the second of the last day and you have a guy in the front row up here, yelling at a guy in the back row, oh, I'm tired of hearing about your fucking daddy issues. Okay. So what you're talking about, you know, we rarely hear mommy issues. Okay. We almost always hear daddy issues. And then when I search into it, both of them come from reasonably successful parents. Their father's one's a big mega something or other. And he, I'm exaggerating, a plumber. Nothing wrong with being a plumber. It's an honest living, right? But it's not Fortune 155 CEO, whatever his dad was. And what is the Fortune 155 CEO think of his son, the plumber? You know exactly what he thinks. Not impressed. Correct. Okay. And that's where it stems from. Part of it. You're the king of daddy issues, Dan. I know. I know.

2:13:38It's a power. And everything's at mathematics. Right. Okay. And my dad was all American, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And it's the thing that I picked that I knew he couldn't come back and compete against me. And when I brought him to the castle the first time, and I stood under the polling chandelier there with my armor running like this, and he looks up and he says, son, just tell me it's not drugs. And I said, dad, it's kind of like drugs. It's oil and gas. It's addictive. Because he couldn't relate to it. I went from Barrio Bad Boy in jail. The last time I was in jail was attempted assault with a deadly weapon on a policeman. I mean, I was only going one way. But you did this because you couldn't progress in athletics. That would have made your dad proud. So you found another way. Correct. So all your success comes down to a daddy issue. Yeah. Taking to the extreme. One of my dad who never understood what I did. Right. So also my kid brother lies to me. Vincent, I know you're going to listen to this. He lies to me and says, dad knew exactly what you were doing. But I know he didn't.

2:14:38Anyway. If Channel Right, it's a superpower. Absolutely. Okay. I just need to channel it better. Correct. Okay. Not channel in the sense that these focus, focus guys. Yeah. Okay. Not that kind of channel. Just channel it into more risk taking. Correct. And caring less about thoughts, results, opinions. Which is the same. Not caring at all is best. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Not caring at all. I mean, you've had, I know that, I don't know if you still do. You used to take negative shit that was written about you off the YouTube and those comments. Okay. And I, I, I teased you about it then. I don't want to know what the answer is now. But it wasn't helpful. Okay. Yeah. We don't take anything off. Yeah. But you know that people talk shit in your seminar either. Okay. Well, they can. Similar thing. No, they can't. You'll throw them out. No. Same thing. Somebody, somebody can put anything on Reddit. Yeah. But it's, it's, it's a bit similar. You wouldn't allow somebody to talk shit in your seminar. So we have to have shit in the seminar. Yeah. And you throw them out.

2:15:38No, no, no. They don't come to the seminar. If you come to the seminar and think for a microsecond that you're ever going to get out of your mouth even, something that's contrary to what I teach, your brain dead. That doesn't happen. And in the 90s, I will neither confirm nor deny. I used to hit people. I mean, we locked up your cell phone. I mean, you drank Bloody Mary's from the morning to the evening. I mean, but we gave you there were no handouts. There were no slides. There were no scripts. There was nothing. And we, most of my billionaires are from the 90s. Yeah. I know. Some tough guys. Of course, that's when the Russians were coming through. And this is the Russian model without a gun. You know a lot of people then. Yeah, I do. You're very well connected and you rarely mention it. Yeah. Or you're very vague. Yeah.

2:16:38And I got offered to do a kiss and tell book again. And I said, how much money up front? You never asked us that before, Mr. Peniel. How much? Ten million. Not enough. Not enough for me to piss off a third of Wall Street. So never gonna happen? Or who knows? That's not my kind of deal. I would rather use it to squeeze them to do a deal. Okay. And then tell them all the bad things that I know about these guys. I was asked to go to Epstein's Island three times by him or friends of his. No, him, him. Okay. Actually, Maxwell, because I knew her father. Okay, got it. And, okay. Did you know? Of course I knew. Everybody knew. Everybody knew it was bad news. And the fact that Bill Gates and these guys... Clinton. Well, I lied. Jesus Christ. Man up. They just... Okay. I did the first TV commercial in 1985 with Maxwell's senior.

2:17:40And at the end, at the filming, yeah, I required ten thousand pounds. Or I'm not gonna do it. And so I said, I know we're getting paid for this deal. And so they went out and got ten thousand pounds and came back and gave it to them. So we completed the little series of commercial. And they even started calling it a little max. Fuck. But, yeah. So I was on that list. But I mean, I wouldn't say anybody could have been on that list. But there was a lot of people. He was connected to a lot of people. Yeah. He had a lot of money, right? And now it's out. And Trump says it's a big Democrat fluke thing. And it'll be published now. Good. And maybe your girl will get out of prison. Who knows? Well, it's not my girl. But anyway, yeah. The fact that she's in a low security prison now is not an accident. And the... She was just... Well, she was a kid. No, she's 60s up. But she was a nice kid and she was nice to me because she knew that I knew her dad.

2:18:41And her dad was an asshole, though. He was a real prick. And... But all these guys are selfish. Seeing that when you're taught as a kid, don't be selfish. Let Johnny use your toys. That kind of shit. Fuck Johnny! Get new parents! Get some toy to your own little prick. That's where my boys behave. When no one's watching. There's not a lot of charity. Well, the kids are allowed to be themselves, right? Well, I don't know about... If I had any charity, the Nuttons and the fucking priest beat it out of me. And the... I'm the perfect person to do this project for the church. My mother was an illegal alien. Comes from right near where the current Archbishop Gomez comes from in Mexico. And... You know, there's a lot of people. They're going to lose 20% of the Vatican Bank when I'm done.

2:19:42At least 20. If not more. Lose it how. Because they're doing favors. Okay. The staff, the team, the whole thing. They only know the Siemens way. Okay. Okay. So you have to get rid of them. And I'll go in there. Peter Teal took a half million dollars and turned it into a billion dollars using the exact same techniques we're using inside the Industrial Club. He met a CEO. His name was Zuckerberg. He pitched him the deal. And he said, okay, I'll give you a half a million dollars. Mark went public and sold the shares to people like you. Well, what happened to Peter? Well, he exited and got a 2,300 extra turn. The wealthy invest in early-stage companies, folks. The public markets are for suckers. It's a rigged game. By the way, this happens in crypto as well. It's called Presail Tokens. This is Salana. Does anybody know this chain? They sold Presail Tokens for four cents. And you can see the date on their April 50, 2018. Look at Salana today, folks. That thing's up over 1,000x.

2:20:43The media and Wall Street and all these hype people get you to buy the top. Meanwhile, they put their clients in at the bottom. And they use you for liquidity to make their clients rich. You can play this same game. You just have to have the financial education and the deal flow. That's it. And it's like when I fired the top three of 10 guys when I had a big organization sales. Maybe they shouldn't be fired. But there's a new sheriff in town. And there's a new sheriff in town. We'll tell you there's collateral damage. And everybody's worried about the collateral damage. I don't worry about that. But all of a sudden, everybody sales just went up 25%. You sort of hire the highest, fire the highest performing sales guy. Yeah. And take the hit and show everybody. Yeah. Well, now it's up to the three, three out of the top five. And there's a reason. Now people look the other way, not the fire people, because it woke. And it's too much paperwork. I do just the opposite. Still. He's still. To this day. To this day. So 10 more user QLA if Trump stays in office.

2:21:45Next 10 years, you're going to sort out the Vatican. And you're living to 120 plus as the plan. And I hope I die on reentry after having sex with Sally. Coming back from the moon. I plan on going to the moon. Oh, really the moon. Yeah. All right. So that'll be in. The reason Elon Musk wants to go to the moon. I'm not in the moon. Mars. Mars, why? The real reason. Now it's connected as you want. We're all these sick of fangs that you have on your show. Yeah. Let's suck your ass. You don't know the real reason he wants to go. No, tell me. It's 40% lithium. So he wants the batteries. Correct. For his robots. That's the only reason that's it. It. And he knows where it's true down here. We definitely knows that. Yeah. He wants to back up plan. And it's a great dream to sell. It's better than the green new scam. We sell people on the dream. We're going to go to Mars. Well, the current. It's green scam now. The current. Yeah. Yeah. That's getting reversed. Okay. You remember. Why is Obama's $50 million estate and Gates $300 million estate on the water's edge?

2:22:51And Obama just bought it in the last two or three years. If global warming is for real. Why are we building here in Britain? About 28 billion pound nuclear plant in suffix on the water. Why? It's a hand job. I mean, God. Yeah. But it's an easy sale. We released. We re-released your global warming clip of you being interviewed by me at the premiere of your movie, particularly in all men, which I had to drag you to by the way. But that's a whole other story. And after the movie, you got up on stage. I thought we were going to have a nice fireside chat. And you started firing bombs into the audience. A third of the people. That bomb was going to attack me. That Australian woman who would drink too much called you out. And then there was a bunch of your minions in the front row. They wanted to kick her ass. And when people think I'm telling the global warming lady questions, and I was telling your minion to sit down, because this girl was going to go punch her in the face. And then you laid it out to her with the core samples and everything.

2:23:51And that piece of video and that six to seven minute piece. The thing has been watched probably 50 million times. Because on Facebook, it was like 10 million views here. And we released it after we were banned from YouTube for two years. I got back. Why did you get banned? Because of it, and all that stuff. Yeah, COVID. Yeah. Medical misinformation. And then it was the White House that told them to take it down. Yeah. And how did you get back? Because Trump sued YouTube. They paid him a $25 million lawsuit. And then Representative Jim Jordan in the Congress went after Google and forced them. He took him to court. And they admitted that they shouldn't have taken. Oh no, they were pressured by the government to take down accounts because of COVID content. Okay. And he made them promise to put the accounts back if that's the reason they had been taken down. Now I saw all this. And I was like, is this actually going to happen? And nothing happened for about two weeks. And then we went and went back to YouTube. And to appeal again, we'd done it a hundred times.

2:24:54I was trying. I don't know how many times I tried to get that channel back. I tried many ways to get into YouTube. And every time I was about to get it back down like 24 hours. I was like, yeah, it'll be up tomorrow. No problem. We're going to do it on a weekend. So no one notices. The next morning I got a call and they say someone hates you inside of YouTube. This is a senior C-suite executive that's got their thumb on your account. And it will not be turned on until they sign off. Some VP can't do it in fucking Berlin. It's in the valley. And they're sticking their thumb on it. So many. So I was fucked. So then we came back and the appeal process. And it looked different. We did it five hours later. Being video start coming up. Video start coming up. And one of the first things we did is we republished some old content. And we republished your global warming thing. And it got a million views in four days. Because you broke it down exactly like you said now. And there was something about that where they're like, this guy knows what he's fucking talking about. And it rings true. You know how many panels and discussions I've been canceled.

2:25:55At the last minutes of a global warming. And then they see that. And then they call cats. They call Kim. We've had a change in agenda. We don't need Mr. Peniel now. Because of that clip. Yeah. Really. Yeah. Sometimes I've actually flown there. You know. I'm getting ready. You know, brushing my teeth. They have breakfast. And I get canceled because they Google your name. And they find something. Correct. And they come back. Yeah. Because there's no answers to those. That's still happening now. Well, I haven't been asked to be on a panel in a while. Are the Uni still canceling you? Yeah, the girls take their clothes off. Oh, yeah. What was that like? Oh, wow. What's the video? They were surprised I showed up. Okay. Because they thought that, you know, they were worried up for my safety. This was a university in the north of England. Actually south of England. South of England. And a bunch of people protested, including girls who wrote some protest stuff on there. And they took their clothes off. Bare bodies. Yeah. And they took their tops off. Correct. To protest you. Yeah. And there was a bunch of feminist dudes in the audience too

2:26:55that were going after you as well. Yeah. Oh, true. How was that? Well, I'm on it. First time for everything. Yeah. I told the girl. You kept going, right? Yeah. I kept going. Yeah. And finally, the police security didn't know where to touch them. To drag them off. And then finally, they left. They finally left. Okay. But that's something. That's happened in a couple of places. That happened at University of Florida, which I thought I was safe because of Rick Scott at that time was governor. Yeah. But the woke. I was sitting at a dinner, a awards dinner, and with a lady who I didn't recognize. She's the head of wealth management for JP Morgan. A gal. I don't know. And so I said something about Rick. And so she gets Rick on the phone. Who's this? Rick Scott. What's happening?

2:27:55Who are you? Are you in trouble? No, no, no. This lady just dialed you. She's a big hiter. She runs the wealth management at JP Morgan. Have a good time. Say hello to Sally. Yeah. And so. But it's just, why would they do that? And all the stuff they built in Florida, not all, but almost all that stuff. It's going to be the biggest next-class action lawsuits. You know, all the cities and the counties that have benefited from that new building, those new buildings, that go all the way down to the keys. And, but I mean Los Angeles and Amsterdam. And they were fighting. They were pissing around about the Panama Canal a few months ago. Or all gone. If it's best case scenario, three meters, worst case scenario, 30 meters. 30 meters, two thirds of the world's gone. Okay. Right. Okay. Three meters, a bunch of it's gone. But they wouldn't do that.

2:28:55Banks, even though they've done stupid things over my lifetime, banks aren't just writing off, you know, ultimately, trillions of dollars to make people happy. But Bill Gates would be the first to move his fucking house. And I didn't know this. I've been saying he's got 50,000 square feet for years and years and years. I didn't know he had a 10,000 more feet here in the last five or 10 years. I was up there many, many years ago. They wouldn't, they're too smart for that. But the next play, and I've been saying this for a while. What is it? Water. Yes, I've heard you say that. The big money is water rights. There's the reason why Sir Richard Branson, Bill Gates, amongst others, are the largest mineral owners in the United States. It's not the mineral minerals. The mineral they want is water. Because that's the next shortage. It is. That's the next shortage. Okay. And the big money had been buying a water rights for 50, 60, 70 years. So look out. Because that's next. Pretty soon, a glass like water that I have here will cost more than a barrel of oil.

2:29:59And they can't purify it or, in the Middle East, they purify it from the seawater. Correct. It's expensive though, isn't it? Yeah. Well, they have the money, they don't give a shit. Right. Money's no object. And the oil comes seeping out of the ground. Yeah, I mean. Okay. All right. So we heard it here first. Yeah. And we're not going to have any electric car bullshit until Saudi Arabia runs out of oil, which is in 500 years. They don't say that. The publishes, they're the second or third largest oil reserves in the world. 500 years is Dan Penny's estimate. It used to be 300 years. And I'll give you an example. Saudi Arabia has been trying to take a ramco public since Christ was around. Yeah. And they can't. Okay. And they went to Nasdaq. They went to the New York Stock Exchange. They went to some of the lesser exchanges, Toronto, et cetera. They went to Hong Kong. They went to Beijing. They went to Singapore. Nobody do it. Okay.

2:30:59So then they come back because they wanted to take 5% of a ramco public without showing their oil reserves. And the value of a ramco is their oil reserves. Okay. So they take it back to Saudi Arabia. They take a public there. 5% of a ramco and the evaluation for the company was a trillion or a trillion and a half or something. But nobody would buy it on the side of things. So they forced all employees, either directly or indirectly, employed by the government. Every swing and dick employed in Saudi Arabia had to buy a ramco. That's the only way they got the public offering away. Without an evaluation of the oil reserves. And the reason they don't want the oil reserves evaluation is going to show maybe a gazillion barrels. Which kills the price at oil. Oil will be a nickel. Okay. If people knew how much they have. Correct. So it's a... And everybody knew all business. Exxonmobile, Dating Max, and when I started, 45 years ago, no, it's the story of this.

2:32:02Except you don't hear Anderson Cooper saying anything. You don't see any of these guys saying anything. I thought it was going to come to truth when the chief, one of the first chiefs of staff for Trump was the former chairman's CEO of Exxonmobile, that guy. Who I knew when he was a middle manager, by the way. And he quit because there was too much hassle working for him. And then Mad Dog Maddox, the Marine guy came before him, et cetera. We're not going to have... That's a hand job. It's bullshit. No way are we ever going to have those kind of flying car bullshit. And... Because they got to get rid of that oil. And they'll sell it at any price. And that's the... And that's the open secret in the world. Well, it's not so... I'll tell you another secret. In 1964, 1965, they were at the American Petroleum Institute, which is a bunch of jerk off MIT and Caltech guys, sitting up there jerking each other off. They had a convention in Las Vegas. Yeah. And the head scientist for... This is before Exxonmobile were merging Chevron.

2:33:04The head scientist from Chevron was driving from San Francisco to Las Vegas to make a paper. This paper, this big discovery he made. He left home in time, and then the next day at 10 o'clock when he was supposed to get up and speak. Now, this is legend in our business. He wasn't there. Now, this guy never made anything in his life. Anyway, he never showed up. He never made the paper or discussed the paper. What was the paper? Turn, change two molecules into still water and you got petroleum. Two molecules. Now, you probably understand it better than I do. Only two molecules. Sounds too good to be true. Exactly. Well, that paper is sitting in the vaults of Chevron and San Francisco since the sixties. Everybody knows it. I mean everybody. The janitor knows it. Same thing for cure for cancer. And I go down to the long, long west. A lot of the stories you hear about farmer are all true.

2:34:05Okay. So it's all being hidden from us to keep prices up. Keep demand up. So they don't lose market share. Okay. They don't sit at that bogus to keep market share. Okay. And now almost everything that goes wrong in business today is supply chain. Before Corona-Rona, nobody knew what the fuck supply chain was. True. And now? Why? Because it's an easy thing to blame. Okay. Right. Okay. So they throw it at that. And the public is going more. They're more on. That's what I call medias. Supply chain, my ass. I mean, you go back and you look at textbooks 10 years ago. Five years before Corona. You can't find supply chain. It's not a definition. It's all bullshit. When you watch the news and I know you watch like four channels every day.

2:35:06Correct. Is it just all bullshit and you're just sorting through? Or you want to know what is the bullshit they're selling to the meathead today? No. Because my kids will come back to me and say, well, this happened. You didn't mention this in the seminar. Okay. And so I say, well, this is horse shit. Right. One of the ones that's just straight out to zero, which is Middle Eastern owned. Yeah, guitar. Yeah. They're pretty straight. But I mean, CNN and everybody else. I like Bloomberg. It's pretty straight. I listen to the weekend wrap up or whatever the summary of the week. Correct. It's pretty good. But how did I know we wouldn't have negative oil? Well, you're an oil guy. Well, none of these pundits had ever been the cushing in Oklahoma to where they swap wet for dry barrels. Okay. It was built in the 20s, 30s, 40s. It's just recently been computerized and they've got old software, blah, blah, blah.

2:36:06There's no fucking way they could have taken an influx of that much oil. I didn't know how much I guess off the top of my head, I said minus 24. It went minus 37. Now, some of my guys, Wall Street guys, shorted oil, made hundreds of millions. Couple of guys, allegedly billions. Because no, I mean, you could short that, that's come out of y'all day long and they were just taking the tickets. Land men. It's a great, a great series. I love it. And the fact that he used to be married to Angelo. Angelo Angelo, yeah. And then she said on the news, he's the greatest fuck. He's got a cock like a baseball bat. She said that on the news. I still remember that. I love that girl after that. They used to wear vials of each other's blood around their neck. Yeah. He's the man. He's the man. Dan, if you had to start everything over again in 93. I'd go back and I'd be, what'd you do? Oh, I'd be, no, I'd be doing, what'd you do in the first job you had?

2:37:10Wall Street? Well, Wall Street had two out of three derivatives. Yeah, yeah, I'd be derivatives. That's trading nothing for nothing. Do they still have derivatives traders? Yeah, derivatives is big business. You mean, but don't have algorithms and not to do all that shit. You still need the derivatives. You still need the people. Yeah, it's still big business. So, AI's not done. Make that disappear. Maybe it definitely can take some things out of it. But Wall Street's strong, right? Goldman's and results are strong. JP Morgan's building the brand new building in London, brand new building in New York. Business is good for those guys. Would you do anything different with QLA? And you had to do QLA. You had to do this. This was your calling. Well, I guess you say that. But I tried to do with the bear. And they told me, I had two great ideas as well. I was at the bear. One QLA, I'm a surgeon for the best bang for my institutional customer's buck.

2:38:10And I said, it's a quasi-real estate play. We buy companies. I forget either A's or somebody told me that we wouldn't do that. Because there's no real fees in it. Especially if you do seller finance. So then I came up with a second deal. It was a Salawani oil field in the... No, a Wallyo oil field in Salawani, Indonesia. Oil was like... I exaggerate. Now, six inches deep. I thought it was some shit. It was a no-brainer. And the Indonesian government just hadn't got around to development. And so I somehow got an option. Just like I took an option public. And you don't have to put up any money. And I brought it back to the bear. And we had one oil analyst. It was a nice enough guy. An Indian guy. He said he went... No, no. Oil is way above the guys here. They're not interested in that. I said, well, I'm leaving. Well, this one. I said, is there a right for me to leave? So I went to my bosses. One of which was at my 80th birthday. Keith Kuchmer, he's 90 now. And I said, I'm leaving. But it's still. Everybody says, okay.

2:39:10And he says, well, don't be surprised. It's 25 years from now. They come back and ask you for their share. Ten years ago, I get a letter from beer stirns. The cleanup lawyer from the bankruptcy wanted to know what happened to that asset. Really? Yeah. And I made a handshake deal with Saharta. The butcher, murderer, what do you call it? Yeah. I got paid 25 years, though. 25 years. It wasn't always on time. But I always got it. Because he liked me. You know, he liked me. I think more or less his crazy son, Bong Bong, liked me more. In a way that's not healthy. But anyway, I got paid. And so I left. But then a number of years later, they wanted to know. We don't see beer stirns on the title any place here. And so I showed them a letter. Thank God, I kept the letter. This is before emails. You know? Yeah. And their lawyer asks, how many copies of this letter do you have? What the London Real Investment Club actually does for you, it gives you the keys to open that door to the inside. It deals in the last three weeks.

2:40:10I've participated in three incredible deals. A layer two Bitcoin protocol, an incredible AI protocol. The deal flow is beyond what I expected. I don't think I've ever seen a model like this that just gives average folks the opportunity to be behind the deals. And that's exactly what we've done. Not only that, you get to hang out with Brian Rose every week. And for me, that was huge because I look at Brian as somebody who's not only an expert in the space. And I think he's on the leading edge. But just the leading edge of thought with London Real and the work he's doing there. To anyone who's taking a serious look at this, I know it's a big decision. It was a big decision for me and my family. And it is one of the best decisions I've ever made. So I wish you all the best and hope you come join us. And I said, one, as I took it back, just one, this one. But that's why I left the bear because of the oil. There's plenty of places that you can get oil for $2 or $3 a barrel to the surface.

2:41:14But there's so many other places that now would take billions in infrastructure. Because there's no pipelines there. It's too shallow for ships. Like when NASA's had all kinds of reasons. But someday they're going to have a secondary tertiary and even a fourth method of extraction that will be able to take this oil profitably. And there's no reason to have all this other shit. And the guys know that. So they're still graduating petroleum engineers left frightened center. Geologists left frightened center. And so I know that. I'm not the only guy who knows that. And when he says drill baby drill, he means it. And plus a lot of his back income from the oil drilling states. Those psychos from Oklahoma, Kansas, Texas, you know, drill baby drill. This energy secretary is a MIT kid. Yeah. He was at my fraternity a few years before I got there.

2:42:16So we're not all bad. No, no, I'm not. I know a lot of MIT guys that are smart. I know a couple of Caltech guys that are smart too. Okay. But those schools, as I tell this, when I'm at, I've never been there, but at Harvard, excuse me, Oxford, some of these other schools I've talked about, it gets in the door. Okay. And it may get you your first promotion. But after that, you're on your own. Yeah. Unless you're fortunate enough to your boss and boss boss went to those schools. And then, you know, Kelly was able to push Northwestern. And maybe that's why she wants to stay in New Chicago. There's a lot of Northwestern grads there. And they're loyal to each other. Okay. Yeah. But she paid it. In order not to money, they do fuck all. In your opinion. My opinion. Okay. I forgot more about pushing paper management stuff. Yeah. I mean, I could do that in a coma.

2:43:16In a coma. Damn, what if there's someone listening and that they would say to themselves, I'm too weak. I am a cunt to say your terms and I need to change myself if I want to get something out of this life. How can they do it? The first thing is I would, this is all free information. So you take it for what it's worth. We have a book online, all my materials free online. You know that. Okay. I know. It's called Qley for Dummies. It was originally written for kids about 10, 12 years ago. But it is almost read piece by adults. We wrote it for a 10 to 12 year old, which is more or less the average mentality of unfortunately, Homo sapien right now. And I'd read Qley for Dummies. And if it makes sense there, then all the rest is laid out on my side for free. I mean, my book, your first 100 millions free. It's a good book. Yeah. It is a good book. We have guys that have made hundreds of millions that I never met.

2:44:20Now, many of them come back to the seminar just to say thank you. But we've got guys in prison that have made a lot of money. But one of my favorite stories, we had a minister from a bump-fuck Oklahoma coming to the seminar about five, six years ago. And he was a guitar kind of minister, you know. And so he tells the story. And you could tell he's wearing his cousin's suit. I mean, he wasn't clothes that were made for him. And he said that because you go around and say why I'm here, what I do, et cetera. And he says, I'm a Baptist minister and, you know, a couple of three years ago, my son was picking him up for school. And he asked me, why does Billy and Johnny and Sally live in bigger houses than we have daddy? And before I could answer, he said, I guess God doesn't pay that well. And he saved for three years to come to the seminar, lost his kids and a divorce to his wife. Okay. He's now a big health, health maggot,

2:45:20mogul in Oklahoma. He owns 50, 60 assisted living. And he's worth 20, 30, 40 million bucks. But his son said, I guess God doesn't pay that well. Well, God doesn't pay that well. He's right about that. But you've got to have a driving force. If you don't have a driving force, and if you're only going to try, you're going to fail. But start with QLA for dummies. And it said, don't be demeaned by the cartoon shit on the front. But I mean, it's helped countless people. But you are who you hang around with. You're the average of the five people. When I said it earlier, maybe a mom, a part-time dad, an older brother, sister, maybe a grandparent, and your next door neighbor. And what do they know about building high performance people? Nothing. Nothing. In some cases, you know, I told you I interviewed a Kennedy recently. He looked. I mean, in fact, I thought it was your real Kennedy. Yes, sir. I can't get a job.

2:46:21Now, I felt good. It's a shitty thing to say. But I felt good about it. And he says that, you know, everybody thinks that I'm a shoe-in. Now, maybe 50 years ago, I was a shoe-in, but I was a shoe-in today. And he went to Harvard and blah, blah, blah. That's still. And he went to that prep school that they go to before they go to Harvard. And they'll find over. That's the end of her. Yeah. A little bit of East Coast. Just like you. Just like you. I didn't got to end over. No. But you still got to take action. Okay. My neighbors here in Scotland, they're on the 8, 10, 12th generation, Etonians, and they go to either Oxford or Cambridge. Occasionally, University of Edinburgh, they work in the city for three or four years. They want to be a director, a board director,

2:47:23and they go in the black watch, you know, and then they come home and drink themselves death. They've been doing that for five to ten hundred years since Napoleon got beat at a bottle of water. Nothing's going to change. I mean, why would you change? I went to a cocktail party three or four years ago. They come drinks parties in Scotland. Interest rates were still at five thousand year low before they started going up. There were zero more or less. Danny, what are you talking about? Zero interest rate. I said, yeah, they're just about zero. They give money away now. And they didn't have a fucking clue. No idea what you're talking about. Nothing, right? They thought that I was trying to promote something. It doesn't affect their lives at all. And somebody's wife asked Sally, has she got a new party trying to sell something? Sally said, what are you talking about? And then she said, interest rates are five thousand year low.

2:48:23What interest rate? Now, the guy that runs Sally, he's got initials, what do they call him? MBS. Okay, MBS was sitting at a meeting here recently. And somebody mentioned net zero. He has two interpreters. What do they mean, net zero? There is no net zero. That is a fig Newton of their, somebody's imagination. That is never going to happen. Never. And then they say net zero, or no, 30% of whatever they say for UK by 2030 or 2050 or they're lying. I hope not. Well, I mean, I hope so. Well, net zero for whom? It's already dragged this country down. Well, it's a front page article in the Wall Street Journal today talking about how the Greenscam drove electricity prices up and supply down

2:49:23electricity prices up to 20 years. I couldn't believe when I heard the first advert, heat or each for old people. Oh, yeah, here. A hundred years ago. It's worse in Scotland. Okay. And I said, Sally, and they were showing some old get about 75 years old. And I was maybe 77 or 78 then. And then we checked around, local reverent. And there's, oh, no, no. Sally's checked around just recently if anybody needs in the village and needs anything. Oh, no, no. There are people a lot worse off than Guthrie Village. You know, and he talked about Glasgow and some of the other parts in Scotland. But not, you know, heat or each. And then they show some old guy. He's pension is 1200 pounds and his heating bill went from 600 to 1400. Now, I'm sure maybe there's one guy, but I mean, they make it sound like it's your next door neighbor. Right. So we actually went around and checked with everybody. He had enough money or enough heat. Isn't that.

2:50:23But advertising, I mean, it is. And now it's easier to tell bullshit on the internet. It's easier to tell bullshit, unfortunately. And the, and now the people, the last generation and a half are more gullible. When stuff like that came out when I was, I don't think I was ever gullible, but it came out when I was young. I mean, and now they have fact checks. Okay. When I was first on Wall Street, there's two, three guys I would call. If I want to know, is this the truth? No. You know? But they all taught me, especially at Bear. Follow the money. What's the big money doing? Okay. And the big money is hardly ever wrong. They are wrong from time to time, but not too often. It's interesting that the guy that owned

2:51:23the Titanic, decided not to sail on it, and the guy Abelson, who owned twin towers, happened to not go to the office that day. The two largest insurance claims that were paid in the history of the planet. Somehow, they were able to escape that tragedy. So what's the money? Yeah. Big money. Hardly ever makes a mistake. So people can download QLA for dummies. They go to your website. You're doing four seminars a year? Yeah. The next one's in February. Okay. February. Okay. And then hardcore New Year's. Well, this year it's New Year's. Okay. It'll be in December, January. Okay. And you got a podcast coming soon, New January. You're going to interview people. Correct. I got this. I got a watch. Yeah. Okay. So what about Dan? No, well no. Well, I mean, they- Yeah, it just got- We're screaming at somebody today. We're going to ask these people. I said, no, no.

2:52:25You tell them they're on the podcast. I'm not asking anybody. There's only one answer, this fucking thing. Yeah. When he can- Or she or it can make themselves available. And so- Like that? Yeah. I like that. I like that. I asked them. I like that. I made these cocksuckers. You did? I'm lucky I'm not collected in cash. I can't wait. You're gonna shoot it in your bar, where you were shooting those, the Godfather talks and stuff, or your studio or something. Or in front of my $1 million man sign. Okay, I like that too. Yeah. Okay. Stay tuned for the Vatican, getting completely back to normal. And then stay tuned for the night. This is gonna be some turmoil. For the British nighthood. Can I come to that, you know, and just cheer you on? Absolutely. Yeah. Absolutely. Could I get a guest? Well, I don't know about that, but I feel very, you know, I took communion while I was at the Vatican. And so for about 10 or 12 days,

2:53:28I felt different. And Sally said that was acting different. And I was trying to watch the, how many times I said fuck and stuff like that. And just like when you meditated in Nepal, you have a few days, something happened to you. No, I didn't meditate. I just felt different when I left different. Oh, okay. Right. I still don't meditate. And when I meditated at Dave Asprey's conference, you felt different for a little bit. No, no, no. A third chakra. A third, yeah, third side. And now why do everybody say that's such a big deal? It's there inside you, Dan. Well, I did it like in about six microseconds. Okay. I didn't do it once. I did it three times. And then I got, we went out with some friends of mine, got drunk. And then when we went back to their big mansion in the kitchen and then one of the wives said, do it one more time. So I got in the other room. I did it again. And then so, and I've got some mystics to follow me. That's not possible. Because I've been hearing about the third fucking chakra for 50, 60 years. And, you know, and the dolly.

2:54:31Okay. And I've got some guys that are right-hand people to the dolly. Right. You haven't met him. Never met him. But I have, you could have gone two ways, Dan. You could have gone the monk way. No, no. The guys make a lot of money. Yeah, I wanted to be a priest. Oh, yeah, I know. Okay, I'd be poked by now. I've already told an archbishop that. Anyone, Mr. Peña, I know that sounds presumptuous, but I'm telling you with the Lord knows. Well, let's hope you're right. My prayer is with you. I've not got a no yet. Okay. From any of the high-powered clergy, not one fucking no. Oh, on the thing. On the thing. Okay, good. All right. Salis says, can we build in a $20 sour or anything? I don't think so, Sally. I'm not doing this for the money. You're doing this for the rep. Correct. Okay. All right.

2:55:32Well, there's a few people like Trump. I'd like to dam, a dam. Don't know, dam them. Oh, okay. Oh, dam them. Okay. Oh, when you're up there. Not everybody deserves to go to heaven. If I get to be on charge of that list, you know, oh, you can dam. Yeah, well, I can build the hell. Maybe I'll give you that for a day if you pull it off. Not if when. If when. I meet you all the time and they're fans of yours. And I always tell them, go to the castle. And they get this look about them like, oh, my God, I could never go. I'm like, go, go. I don't know how much longer he's going to be doing it. Go. I should probably raise the price. I haven't raised the price in eight or 10 years. Yeah, raise it. Somebody reminded me of that. Most people are just terrified to go. Yeah. But I mean, I gave a talk for the Scottish Business Association Glasgow three weeks ago. And the guy that organizes a mentee in my name, Paul McFadden. And they had a special dinner that I was there. And they were supposed to come up and talk to me, but everybody's afraid to come up and talk to me.

2:56:33And then we had a Q&A of about 100 people. And I didn't think I was particularly harsh, but apparently I was. And I said, you know, one of the kids, I said, how old are you? And he says 31, you've lived 31 years being this stupid. How is that possible? The question, did you, did you do any preparation? And then I started going, most people that walk the streets shouldn't have been born. Like I say, they should have rolled down your fat mama's leg and said to one of those four or five hundred sperm that hit the jackpot. What good, what benefit do human race have you done? None. And you have, you think you have rights? In Spartan time, we would have left it in the fucking ditch. In fact, I'm willing to put you in the ditch right now. But I'm not exact and I believe that with all my heart.

2:57:35I know you do. How do you produce all this money out of these little cunts? It's a fucking miracle. And that's what I told cardinals, et cetera. That's what I've got no nose and their desperate. St. Pena, it's coming. St. Dan, St. Dan. Okay. I wish you all the luck with that. Thank you very much. I wish you luck with the, and I wish you luck in Dubai. Thank you. Thank you. Okay, watch out. I know you think you're smart, Brian. Watch out. Watch out. Okay, because there's a lot, they've been, they've been cheating with camels and camel saddles and flying carpets for thousands of years. Okay. Before MIT was ever invented. Okay. Noted, noted. All right. And that's some smart guys there. And I have a smart law firm. I'm not promoting anybody. But I have a smart English law firm who's been there since the beginning, who I depend on whenever I need something to be looked at. Okay.

2:58:36And it's a gal. The law firm is a big law firm. And the, but I mean, you gotta, you gotta be sure. And I always say, only do business with the rule of law. Well, the rule of law is a little shaky in Dubai. It's not a shake as it was 25, 30 years ago. Right. And you need to make sure that whatever you're doing is rock solid foundation. Because they'll look for any excuse. And additional fees at the closing are a norm. I gave you one for 50 grand. I gave you one for 20 million. And the 20 million was out of 100 million. So the guy that got the 80 million, he thought, all his birthdays to come at once. But if your, if your term sheet in your mind had spent the whole 100 million, what are you doing when you only have 80 million? All right, I'll watch it. And deals like that are commonplace.

2:59:36It takes a while in there for coffee and all that bullshit. Which I don't, I don't relegate myself to that. You know, the, but they like meetings upon meetings upon meetings. But they have the money. So most people put up with it. Yeah, yeah. They like to build the relationship. Correct. The relationship first, business second is what they do. That's what they say. That's what they say. Yeah. All right. Thank you for the motivation. It's my pleasure. And the observations. You get my best year family. I will. And your daughter? Yeah. I'm gonna see her soon. She remembers you. And maybe I'll send the boys up to the castle with me in about five years. Well, five years, well, if I'm still there in five years, I'll be there the next year or two for sure. But anyway, you do it at your own pace. That's fine. And the kids, I appreciate the opportunity. And the, so when will you physically be there? Oh, to buy end of the month. I'll be there. And then I'll be there for four or five months

3:00:38till summer. I might serve the summer and might come back here. So yeah, summer's the beast. Yeah, it is. Although more people are staying now. But yeah, it gets a little hot. But yeah, it's getting bigger and bigger. Everyone's moving there. Everyone's moving from here there for a lot of reasons. You know where you're gonna have your office? Yeah, I think I got an idea. We had a studio there last year. So we had a whole set up there. So yeah. Yeah. Next time you would sell on your own town, drop by. Okay, well, the, they have asked me countless times to do stuff there, but I won't do it there. Saudis asked me, you gotta come to the castle. Because people winding up, like a Shogi chopped up and embassies is for real. It's not just, you know, a James Bond movie. So you don't wanna get chopped up? No, but I'm not gonna give him the chance to get chopped up. Okay, okay. But they've asked me many times. The only ones that I would take exception that I would do it is the Kuwaitis, the Ausabas,

3:01:38who I was in business with for 10 years. And I know their family well. Okay, and I know the guys. And the grandson that was, with me 40 years ago, is now the head guy. Because his father and grandfather passed away. Okay. So I have more confidence than when he tells me something that's actually gonna get done. And the, and remember, there's a gazillion princes there. Homer's, there's a gazillion of them. And there's only a handful that actually, that title carries any weight. So make sure you do your homework and to make sure you're dealing with somebody that can actually, it promises you something that can actually fulfill it. Because unfulfilled expectations are rampant in that part of the world. So maybe a one day seminar and Dubai for you. No, no, no, no. The London one was a huge hit. What? Your London one was a huge hit. Yeah, that was my retirement, which I didn't mind a number of times. That's five years ago. Yeah. And the, it was, it was a big hit.

3:02:38The, but you can count on two hands of the thousand people in the room that made it happen for themselves. Really? Two. So it's actually seven. Seven guys. Okay. So you know, one's a father and son. So that's six entities. And the rest, it was just a blip. No, no, it's something to check. That's they have to come to the castle. You gotta lay hands on that. Yeah, but I mean, the, the, the six that, you know, made quite a bit of money. But see, the expectations, if you think a lot of money's 20 million, your body starts to run out at 16 million, 17 million, 18 million. Then you barely fall over the, you know, the goal line at 20 million. If your expectation is 500 million or a larger number, you know, your body internalizes that. You know, it's like the difference between a two, a two round fight and a five round fight. Okay. And so, you know, and you internalize that.

3:03:39And most, most people are ready for like a one round fight. And when it's, it's a long time. It's a long time. But I mean, you're Iron Man and the boxing, et cetera. It all boated well for you. And so that's good. That's good. And so with the, whether you need any more fights or not, you'll decide. But I need more challenges and more risks. Yeah. And with that comes money, we, we're winding up, right? Yeah, we're done. Thank you. You're very welcome. All right. Okay, my pleasure. Hi, it's Brian Rose from London Real. You probably know that we've just recently been re-platformed on YouTube after 25 months completely in the dark. The truth is, I really need your help. What I really need you to do is click on that subscribe button right now, like this video and maybe even leave a comment or share the link with friends. We're really fighting against an algorithm that's tried to keep us quiet for so long. And the more subscribers we have,

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