CVille/AlbCo Hypocrisy - Rules For Thee, Not For Me; Trump Epstein Statue Erected On Downtown Mall

0:00Good Thursday afternoon, guys. I'm Jerry Miller, and thank you kindly for joining us on the I Love Seville show. It's great to connect with you guys through the water cooler or content in conversation. In Charlottesville, across Central Virginia, the Commonwealth of the country, in the world we encourage you, the viewer and listener, to shape the discussion of today's show. I think we may start the broadcast, and today's show with some memorable lines from one of the most iconic shows of all time. The Simpsons. Homer has certainly made dope, a part of our vocabulary in lexicon. Homer, the lovable, I wouldn't say lovable loser with Homer Simpson. He's a schlub. I would say Homer, the lovable, average Joe that finds himself in quagmires and predicaments that we could all... I hope he's not the average. Relate to. Bart Simpsons got so many great ones. Eat my shorts. One of my favorite.

1:11I coloramba. One of my favorites from Bart Simpsons. Mr. Smithers. Excellent. Excellent. He's another one that comes immediately to mind. But one is really resonated with me. Ned Flanders, quirky oddball. Relatable in some ways, laughable in many. One of his famous ones. We've tried nothing, and we're all out of ideas. We've tried nothing, and we're all out of ideas. Ned Flanders, one of his favorite catchphrases. We've tried nothing, and we're all out of ideas. Resonates with me this Thursday afternoon, March 19th, and downtown Charlottesville. As I consider what local government is doing in El Maro County and in Charlottesville City. There was a budget meeting yesterday. For example, in El

2:12Maro County, the supervisors were quick to raise the flag. We are not going to raise the real estate tax rate. And that flag carried and waved by the county executive, Jeff Richardson, carried and waved by Ned Galloway, the chairman of the El Maro County Board of Supervisors. Supervisor Galloway is going to be in the studio tomorrow for real talk with Keith Smith. Supervisor Jesse Rutherford of Nelson County. Supervisor Tony O'Brien of Fluvana County will be in studio as well at 1015 tomorrow. Don't miss that episode of real talk with Keith Smith at 1015 on the I love Seville network. But Supervisor Galloway is waving the flag too. He's like, we're not going to raise the real estate tax rate. It's getting too expensive around here. Then in the budget session, as it progresses, we find out, hey, it's not the real estate tax rate.

3:13We're going to raise. It's the personal property tax rate. We're going to raise it. We're not going to do it incrementally, Judah. We're going to spike the personal property tax rate increasing. We're going to do it in the name of affordability in El Maro County. So I'd like to understand some things. One thing that not everyone owns in El Maro County is a home. But one thing that a lot of people own in El Maro County are vehicles, cars and trucks, machinery and personal property. You say that it's getting so expensive in El Maro County, we're not going to raise the real estate tax rate. But we are going to spike at a pretty significant level. And Judah's going to give us the who-what-when-where-why-year in a matter of moments. The personal property tax rate at a significant level. And we're going to do it in the name

4:19of affordable housing. How many times is this going to happen? How many times does this get you thinking of good old net flanders? We've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas. Yesterday it was a four-cent tax rate. Excuse me. Last year was a four-cent real estate tax rate increase. Now it's the personal property, tax rate increase. City of Charlottesville's the two-set real estate tax rate increase. All in the name of housing affordability. All having the same impact of gentrified the community. We've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas. Perhaps we try something. And perhaps that's something we try is not the same ask, the same activity, the same behavior, year after year after year. And expecting a different result, year after year after year.

5:21Because I learned as a young man, my father, many faults, many strengths. One of the many strengths my wise father has is is prudence and accountability with finances and guidance with building wealth slowly. Often explained to my brother and I that wealth is built consistently and slowly over time. It's not a race. It's a marathon with retirement and wealth building. And he would in these lessons, these life lessons with my brother and I were about 18 months apart. Best friends and mortal enemies by my brother and I now much more best friends. Super tight my brother and I. And I'm reminded of a lesson from him. If you do the same thing over and over again

6:23and expect a different result, it is the definition of insanity. And in the words of Ned Flanders from Simpsons, one of the most iconic pieces of content in American history, the Simpsons, he has said on that show, we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas. Have our local governments embodied Ned Flanders? Are they on their respective diocese, trying nothing and all out of the ideas so they keep going back to the same old, tired, tactic of tax spikes and increases? We'll talk about that on the program today as the supervisors of Al Mara County are now advertising a 15 set race and the personal property tax rate up from $4 and up to $4 and 43 cents. Astronomical race. And they will do this in the name of

7:31housing affordability or affordable housing. It's going to generate about $1.6 million. $1.6 million, supervisors will generate or yield about 27 coalman tents, 18 Yeti coolers, 19 Yeti tumblers, a couple of sleeping bags and maybe some lanterns, $1.6 million. But what it also does is it bleeds your constituents by the death of a thousand cuts at a time where gasoline is now $3.79 and climbing. Up a dollar, ladies and gentlemen, since the start of this Iranian war, a war that I've questioned on this program. A lot we're going to cover on the broadcast today. We're going to show you pictures and renderings of the Belmont market. That's for sale. These pictures and renderings are positioning the

8:33Belmont market and it's upside as a boutique hotel and wine bar in downtown Belmont. A boutique hotel in wine bar in downtown Belmont at a location 21 years ago where I was buying natty light 12 packs that were chopped in half by the proprietor of Belmont market and taped up with clear masking tape. A boutique hotel and wine bar in downtown Belmont at a time 21 years ago when Belmont was the home to blue collar Charlottesville and a couple of generations ago was the neighborhood that catered to the Ix Mill, the namesake for Ix Park. A boutique hotel and wine bar at Belmont market in an area on Thursday, Friday and Saturday

9:40where parking is such a premium that folks are willing to block in locals from entering their driveway, double parking them as if they were the Saddam Hussein from Seinfeld. You guys remember that episode where George Costanza? I believe it was George got double parked by Saddam Hussein. Remember that episode? That's happening in downtown Belmont on a Thursday and Friday and Saturday night as restaurant goers look to support Tavola and Moss and the local and the eateries in downtown Belmont that are beloved but a quarter that certainly is lacking in parking. We'll talk about that on the show today. I also want to highlight on the program, ladies and gentlemen, the South Street Brewery that is now officially listed for sale, excuse me for lease, not for sale, for lease, not for sale. The monthly red and winter properties is the owner of

10:43the South Street Brewery building, including the executive offices above it. Good to scratch. Just 15 years ago, my firm rented one of those tiny executive offices to the tune of $325 a month. We know that building well. Woodard property zones a lot of real estate locally. A lot of the real estate that Woodard has right now or some, I'll use the word some. Some of the real estate that Woodard has right now is empty. It's vacant. Body and read is a good example. South Street Brewery is a good example. VTace Spirits is a good example. The South Street Brewery lease, ladies and gentlemen, Woodard is asking $8,900 a month. That's base rent for the South Street Brewery space. You're talking a lot of square feet. If you think about it, it's a pretty big restaurant.

11:44You've got that long bar. You've got the seating by the fireplace, the seating at the bar. You've got the seating kind of at that step up or elevated level with the booths. You have a kitchen. It's fairly large restaurant. $8,900 a month. The rent at South Street Brewery. And this location is not even on the downtown mall, ladies and gentlemen. A lot we're going to cover on the broadcast, including asking this question, who's got the quicker trigger finger? You know, whether it's Billy the Kid, give me some cowboys due to some deadly cowboys, some cowboy criminals. Deadly cowboy criminals. Butch Cassidy and Jesse James, Billy the Kid and Bonnie and Clyde and goodness gracious doc holiday, Val Kilmer played doc holiday brilliantly in Tombstone, the late great Val Kilmer goodness. He was a man with

12:49a stool show, tremendous faults and tremendous strengths, right? A man that I think was very relatable. I was having a conversation at a local brewery a couple of weeks ago with Elliot Harding and Richard Fox. Two great guys, Richard and Elliot have known each other for some time. Richard and Elliot are very likable, very well connected, very intelligent. The three of us are having a frosty one at at Selvage Brewery. And we're just talking about society today and the willingness for society and a lot of capacities to forgive and the fact that in today's society it's almost attractive or makes political candidates more approachable to have a checkered past if they're willing to acknowledge the checkered past and apologize because it makes them more relatable to the marketplace and the voting public. A Val Kilmer in today's society or

13:51a doc holiday in today's society would be would be beloved because of the charm and the charisma. And it got Judah and I thinking of Charlottesville, now Mark County, which jurisdiction has the quicker trigger finger when it comes to taxing its constituents, both considering tax increases today. A lot we're going to cover on the broadcast. I'd like to go to the studio camera and the two shop. And then I'd like to highlight one of our partners Charlottesville sanitary supply. They've been in business for 62 years now, John and Andrew Vermillion. Over on High Street, family owns that building. They have an e-commerce website Charlottesville sanitarysupply.com, just click the shop now button and you can have cleaning supplies and sanitary supplies and pool, swimming pool needs delivered to your doorstep at your home for free, oftentimes the same day. At price points that are more affordable than the big box brands, why would we not shop for

14:54cleaning supplies here? Your toilet paper, your paper towels, your bono wood flooring, anything sanitary or cleaning needed. And their sister company, Charlottesville swimming pool company, is the concierge or consultant for above ground pools, in ground pools, constructing them, building them, water testing, pool robots for cleaning your pools, pool covers and pool shades, our family, our home and ivy, our swimming pool Charlottesville sanitary supply and Charlottesville swimming pool company. Judah Wickauer, I've been using this phrase a lot and I think it's very fitting. Make it make sense. Make it make sense. Make it make sense, Judah, that we are making the community more expensive to help the community become more affordable. Make it make sense that we are continuing to go back to the same solutions or perceive solutions, the tax levers and hoping

16:04out moral or Charlottesville will become more affordable. I've been in this community for 26 years. Do I get to be called to local? I've been here 26 years. I get that I'm not born here. I totally understand that. I can't help it that a sperm and an egg connected in Naples, Florida and birthed me. I hold that against you. It was out of my control. I'm hoping to go, I'm now five for five with appearing on the Charlottesville subreddit. I'm hoping to go six for six Charlottesville subreddit. Get me on there tomorrow. You often say, oh, he's not a local and he's voicing his opinions on Charlottesville every day. Charlottesville subreddit. I'm going for six for six. I want consecutive coverage of Jerry Miller or the I love Seville show on your subreddit, please. I know a whole lot of Charlottesville natives. It seems to be one of those. The Vermilions are. Well, yeah. The Vermilions are five generations about moral county, three generations of running Charlottesville Santeria supply.

17:09That's a perfect example. You're certainly out there. I didn't say that they weren't, but in my particular case, a sperm and an egg connected in South Florida and I was born nine months later. Then the parents, the issuers of the sperm and an egg decided to take the product of the sperm and an egg and bring them to Williamsburg, Virginia with his brother. From there, we were encouraged to go to the University of Virginia where we both got in early and I've been here 26 years. I call it home. Charlottesville subreddit likes to say I'm not a local. That's okay. Six for six. Charlottesville subreddit. Yeah, they absolutely. I mean, come on. Make it make sense. Ned Flanders, I started the program with his famous line. We've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas. Is it not fitting for city council, a city council and the Amar County Board of Supervisors, the Ned Flanders?

18:11The constant effort is the tax increase for making the community more affordable. Make it make sense to you. Make it make sense. Yeah, well, I think you and I advocate for financial conservatism and I think our local governments do not and so I know that they do try to balance the budget but you got to spend more every year and in order to do that, you've got to tax people more especially when especially when you've got flat rates moving year to year. If you're not getting more money except from increased rooftops, increased assessments on

19:11rooftops. Philip Brees, watching the program. He's the chairman of the Amar County Republican Party, Philip Brees and he says just for the record and he's at these meetings in person following them closely. He said he wants Amar County to realize that supervisor Mike Pruitt, supervisor Sally Duncan and supervisor Ned Galloway voted in favor of a 29 cent tax rate increase on personal property but they could not get a fourth to support it. And as a result, they were three of the six members of the board were pushing 29 cents a spike on personal property. They settled with 15 cents when they were eventually able to get Fred Missel to say yes, this was yesterday and I said all along on this program, remember viewers and listeners, we got a we got a crystal ball over here. I'm going to get it out of the box,

20:16Judith, if you can, if you can live. I don't even think I can lift this thing out of the box. I got to be doing the, my son's doing 50 push-ups, 50 pull-ups and 50 sit-ups every day. Thank God I'm doing them with them because this thing is a monster. Am I on the studio camera? Put me on the studio camera. Are we on the studio camera? Yes, you are. Can I see this? They can see through it. The crystal ball. Pull me back, put us back on a two shot. Our crystal ball has proven to be very, very accurate. We said when Sally Duncan was beating the bejeebus out of Dave Shrieve and the Jack Jewett district and the Democratic primary, we proclaimed and predicted that Duncan, Galloway, and Pruitt would form a Manajatwa,

21:22a political love triangle that their politics would align. We said watch and see that Galloway, Pruitt and Sally Duncan and their love triangle, their political Manajatwa would push tax increases immediately. And here we are in March. They started in January. Sally Duncan started in January and here we are in March and Duncan, Galloway, and Pruitt were pumping at 29% spike in personal property. We also said our crystal ball on this program. We said Fred Missle. Was going to beat the brakes off a Scott Smith. Fred Missle did just that. Beat the brakes off a Scott Smith. Wasn't even close. And I said you wait and see. Fred Missle is going to be a critically important aspect of the Board of Supervisors because Bila Pistol Curly and Ann Malik, their ideologies align in a lot of ways.

22:24The Pistol Curly, she lives in Keswick Estates, inside the gates. She's sitting on stacks. Ann Malik is Old School Almarle. Old School Almarle. What is she? A fourth or five term supervisor, Ann Malik? Those two were going to ally. And we said the Missle. The big Missle. Fred miss. He's pretty jacked to it. I bet you Fred Missle can put up two Hyundai on a bench press. I see him in the gym from time to time working out and pumping steel. Of the guys on the of the supervisors, I think Fred Missle might might be able to outlift Mike Pruitt. I don't think Ann Malik is outlifting Fred Missle. If Ann Malik is on a bench press, is she able to lift the bar? Is she able to lift 45 bars, 45 pounds over her hand? Missles probably. Are you spotting? I'm not spotting Ann Malik. I'm not spotting Ann Malik on the bench press. I'm not doing that. We said that Fred Missle's vote was going to be important,

23:26because he was going to be that fourth vote, the deciding factor on taxing an Almarle. Fred Missle said 29 cents was too much for him on personal property. He's Samuel Miller district. But Fred Missle said 15 cents was good. So that tax bill that's going to come in the mailbox for you, viewers and listeners, Galloway and Duncan, Pruitt and Fred Missle. You see him around town or you go to their respective town halls, you say, hey, Galloway and Duncan, Pruitt and Missle, you're taking my money from me at a time when gas just jumped a dollar, at a time where groceries are still expensive, floating dead is costly. We were at a point last year where we were talking fed rate cuts. 2025 was all about inflation's getting in check, fed rate cuts, the rates going down, Jerome Powell's cutting, he's cutting, he's cutting, he's cutting. Now that we've hit Iran, and we're ban, we're bazookaening and, and droning and, and missling Iran, the word inflation's

24:32back. Have you noticed viewers and listeners? Attacks rate increase in this kind of economic climate is, is, is not good. It's not good. And all this in the, in the, uh, case of affordability. Let's take their money to make their lives more affordable. Make it make sense. Make it make sense. And who's got the quicker trigger finger due to wick hour as you're rotating lower thirds on screen? Who's got the quicker trigger finger viewers and listeners? Is it the city? Is it the county? Is it the county? Is it the city? That is a question that will entertain your guests at your cocktail and charcuterie party this weekend. All right, comments are coming in and they're coming in quickly. Bill McChesney lives in the city, William McChesney, his photo on screen. He says, I always say when I hear of governance raising taxes, Jesse James had a gun.

25:37William McChesney, Jerry, you can be considered a local, but you're not a native. I came here in 1963 at 11, so I'm considered a nine native. Patrick Bull, watch the program. Do you ever get a Patrick Bull comment picture? He doesn't have any. Patrick Bull's got a picture. I'm looking at it. It's in the comment section on my personal Facebook page. Yeah, but you can't access it. Well, see if you can get a photo of Patrick Bull so we can put on screen. He's watching the program and he's making good comments. He says, what about the recent schools floating a $250 million bond for new schools? When does that stop? Border supervisors heard from the school board that we want a $250 million high school and the northern feeder pattern of Al Moral County, despite population for Al Moral County public schools projected to be flat or downward by Walden Cooper. Make it make sense. Make it make sense. Patrick Bull says, I'm out of here.

26:37I've had enough and he says, all this is brought to you by the party of affordability. What a bunch of frauds. Kevin Yancy's watching the program. Kevin Yancy says, where's the ceiling? Why should 30% of taxpayers pay for the other 70%. How about a local beer-wine spirits tax? A whole lot more people drink than smoke. Not so much anymore, buddy. A lot of Cali sober out there than drinkers. Vanessa Parque watch. She asks South Street brewery and we're going to offer some insight into South Street brewery later in the show. Wooded properties once $8,900 a month, $8,900 a month, and rent for the South Street brewery location. That's off the downtown module. Off the downtown model. Vanessa Parque says, correction, Jerry. They're taking my money to make someone else's life more affordable. That's exactly right. The old Ned Flanders here. They're taking everybody's money.

27:42Taking everyone's money. The old Ned Flanders, we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas. We've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas. Patrick Bull, we need to get your photo on screen, my friend. Randy O'Neill's watching the broadcast. Print radio on television watching the broadcast as they always do. We got elected officials on the feed. Elected officials, we will always talk about you. We kid because we care some of the times. Ray Cadal watching the show, his photo on screen. We kid some of the times or we care some of the times. Ray Cadal's given props to Charlottesville Sanitary Supply and the Vermilions. We would never have enjoyed our in-ground pool without Charlottesville Sanitary Supply. First class knowledge and service. He says, my wife has many generations here. I'm only 39 years here and I'm a Yankee still. He's 39 years and I'm more kind. Ray Cadal, the great Ray Cadal, the great Ray Cadal watching our fine and fair talk show. John Blair's got a comment. Let's get to Johnny B. Love John Blair. Here's what I don't understand, Jerry. John Blair says,

28:47the real estate tax at least has the tiniest threat of being a little more geared towards the wealthy. But the personal property tax is nearly as regressive as a meals or sales tax. Most people need a car regardless of income. So in order to help the less fortunate, the county is going to impose a regressive tax increase. 100%. I want to offer clarity of what he's saying. There are much more vehicle owners in Al-Maro County, Judah than there are homeowners. And in fact, I would say that there are potentially one or two vehicle owners per family in Al-Maro and homeowners in Al-Maro County, not quite not even close to that from a ratio standpoint. So taxing personal property is the most significant tax on the marginalized community that doesn't have money in their pocket. Taxing homes, you can maybe make a compelling argument

29:51that they have on-paper wealth, it's paper money. But at least they have something, should the you know what, hit the fan that can sell. And it's going to take them 45 to 60 to 90 days before they can sell it. And if they haven't lived there two years, they're going to get pop from a capital gain standpoint. And if they even give a whiff that they're desperate for the money, they're probably going to get bid low and end up losing some of the equity that they've amassed in their home. The meals tax, you can make an argument, hey, if you're financially strapped, you're not going to go out and eat at restaurants. I've made the argument when you tax meals, all you're doing is gentrifying dining out and eating with your kids and public as paramount to socializing your children, which they're going to have to be socialized down the road. And hurting the businesses that bring in a lot of the taxes, the tax money, that also pays for things. A hundred percent. But a galloway and a Sally Duncan, Sally Duncan is a

30:52socialist, ladies and gentlemen, your Jack Jewett representative is a socialist. She literally ran on propaganda in her campaign that I was going to increase your taxes. And she dominated Dave Shrieve. So, Abar was getting what they wanted. She said, I am going to increase taxes, and still she beat the brakes off of Dave Shrieve. She is a socialist, Duncan, Pruitt and galloway wanted 29 cents on personal property, Judah. This is a tax of the most regressive variety. Is that on every dollar? It is. I'll read it, rebate them to you. An advertised 15, it's advertised right now. 15th cent raised in personal property tax up from $4.43 to fund 1.6 million in housing affordability. A significant increase in personal property tax rate. But the counties real estate tax rate will go unchanged. State code requires Virginia cities and counties to advertise tax rates before a

31:55vote is taken. Rates can be lower, but they cannot be raised over the advertised levels. Now, the supervisors are hosting town halls in their respective districts to try to justify this type of increase. Now, I'm at the 107 marker and there's other content that I want to get to including the Donald Trump Jeffrey Epstein statue that is on the downtown mall. We have a photo of the Trump Jeffrey Epstein statue that we're going to get to in a matter of moments. I'll conclude this first portion, the opening portion of this show, by saying, by succinctly closing this way. The 15 cent increase on personal property is the most regressive and aggressive type of tax for our more accountions, because we all own cars because public transportation locally is horrendous. Second, supervisors Galloway, Pruitt, and Duncan wanted to raise the personal property

33:01tax rate by 29 cents and could not get a fourth to support it. They settled on 15 cents when Fred Missel joined the Manajatua. And lastly, ladies and gentlemen, I will close by highlighting all of this is done to make our more and more affordable. We're going to take the money from you, residents, because we feel more confident, we can spend it even better than you, even though you've earned it, to make our more and more affordable. That's what they're saying. That's insulting. We're going to take the money from you, despite the fact that you've worked your ass to own it, worked your ass off to own it, to earn it, because we think we can spend it better than you, despite you earning it, and make our more and more affordable. That's insulting. This comment comes in off the record. This is an off the record comment that just came in from a

34:07connected person. Missel was opposed to raising the roll state rate, but willing to raise the car tax. Why? Maybe because UVA vehicles are exempt from personal property taxes, but not real state taxes. If the real state is held by UVA foundation. In other words, is this a conflict of interest by Fred Missel? Does this explain why he is in more in favor of raising the personal property tax rate instead of the real real state tax rate? To respond without using this person's name, I think that is a conspiracy and not in touch with what's happening. I think Fred Missel is willing to raise the personal property tax rate because he's pressured to do so. I don't think an ounce of Fred Missel's thinking is, I want to raise the car tax because my car is exempt or my employer's vehicles are exempt because he works for the foundation. Was it vehicles that were exempt or rooftops that were exempt? And the foundation pays taxes, by the way. It's UVA that

35:13does not pay the taxes. The foundation does. I don't think Missel is that sophisticated and no knock on Missel, but I don't think Missel's that sophisticated to play chess. He's playing checkers, folks. It's being straightforward, especially 79 days into the job. 79 days into the job. Patrick Bull says, who is performing these assessments and who was involved in retaining that company? Follow the money. He's talking about the assessments on the houses. Whether you want to realize this or not, the assessments are often well below market value. Yeah, I don't think there's anything going on with assessments either. I've corrected some people in the past who are like, oh, and they are raising the assessments. And I'm like, okay, hold on a second. There's no collusion there. There's not the city councilors or the board of supervisors.

36:21They're not like going to the assessors and saying, hey, we need more money this year. It's based on sales of houses around you. It's based on what they know. I'm sure they check some of the houses to see if there are changes, but obviously, they just do the best they can. And you can go and ask them to appeal. Yeah, you can appeal it if you think that they've made an error somewhere. And generally, the valuations are below actual market value, folks. So be careful about appeal. Be careful with appeal. Oftentimes you do end up owing more when you appeal. Deep throats comments. If you think property taxes can can't go higher, speak to someone from New Jersey. You don't own your house. You have a condominium with people like Sally Duncan or Juan Wade. There's a deal of ruin in a nation, as Gibbon said. Also true for cities and counties. Deep throat, New Jersey has the highest effective

37:23property tax rate in the United States with the average homeowner paying approximately 2.23% of their home values and property taxes annually, something for Seville and Almar County to shoot for, dream big boys, dream big girls. Deep throat with the general sarcasm and a hint of bitterness with this commentary, which we love. If you tax it, they will pay. Which we love so dearly. Jenny, who thank you for the retweet. And I'll close the first part of the show by saying the supervisors and the counselors, old net, net flanders. We've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas. And us, the taxpayers are like, eat my shorts. The next headline is gotta be the Trump Epstein statue that's on the downtown mall. You get the photo? Do you have the photo? This photo courtesy of a rapture restaurant. I'm sure this was Mike Rodi who who who published this on his Facebook page. So photo credit to Mike and Cecilia, the owners of rapture restaurant. They snap this pic

38:28yesterday and posted it on social media. It's right outside their restaurant rapture, which is an institution. It's an icon. Big fan of Mike and Cecilia. And I think Mike, frankly, I hope Mike hears this, is he behind the scenes and often and sometimes even behind the microphone during council meetings is becoming a lot of ways the voice of downtown Charlottesville. Greer Ackinback gets the headlines as the executive director of Friends of Seville. But what Mike is doing behind the scenes, Joan Fountain does a lot of it as well is working really hard to evangelize for downtown Charlottesville for zero money. That's what I respect Mike. Here's is the photo on screen, the Jeff Epstein, Donald Trump. Look at the screen. Look at the screen. Look at the screen. There's so many ways to unpack this storyline. There's the obvious way of unpacking the storyline of the Robert E. Lee statue comparison. The statue of Robert E. Lee that led to August 11th and 12th,

39:322017. The statue of Robert E. Lee that was taken down thanks to the most notorious activist in Charlottesville city history, Zianna Bryant, who is now a Charlottesville city school board member, Zianna Bryant, who has no children is in her early 20s and was one of the momentum, it was the momentum, the big large momentum of A11 and A12, the big large momentum, Zianna Bryant of A11 and A12, is now in charge with how the city schools spend their money, make it make sense. The comparison is an easy one, the Lee statue tearing it down to now Donald Trump and Jeff Epstein. It was just that statue though. At least what? It was the Lewis and Clark one, right? Lewis and Clark. Court square one. Court square. Yeah. There were multiple court square ones. Yeah. There was the soldier standing there. Yeah. Not, you know, just mining his own business. Yeah. There were the cannons. Yeah. There was... Talk to me, Judah. I believe there was

40:35another one over by UVA. Talk to me, Judah. Yeah. But still, you know, I mean, heaven forbid we have statues that potentially offend someone. Hold on, let me put something on screen for a second. Oh, Jerry, you're going to surprise me with something on screen? I don't even know what you're putting on. This is the statue of Trump and Epstein. This is the Epstein statue? I personally don't care. I don't find it particularly accurate, but I question the idea that some people find it okay as long as your people aren't offended. My whole issue with this, my entire issue with this is hypocrisy. Yeah. My whole issue with this was hypocrisy. People supporting ice, truancy, student protests. Well, supporting them, but the same people

41:37stigmatizing and using the words Nazi and racist for Western Amaro High School TP USA chapter. Yeah. We're proud of our kids for being politically active until we're not because those are other kids and they're politically active in a way that we don't like. You call this othering? You call this selective outrage? I mean, at the heart of it, I think it's just hypocrisy. We hate that least statue. And we hate that soldier holding a gun. It's not even that we hate. It's that it's that they're offensive to some people. It's divisive. So we got to take them down. But this statue of Trump and a it's it doesn't offend. Suicited pedophile. I don't think he committed suicide. Human traffic. I don't think he committed suicide. I'm not even 100% sure he's dead at this point. I think most Americans believe that he did not commit suicide. And I think there's a large group of Americans that believe he's still alive. Yeah. I'm not in the group that believes

42:38he's still alive. I'm certainly in the group that there's no way Jeffrey Epstein hung himself. Too many coincidences had to go the way for Epstein to whack himself. My point. We're getting off track. This doesn't really I think fit in falling under othering. But it does fit on how can you be any more hypocritical than anything that offends me or or my people has to be taken down has to be removed from from the public eye. In fact, we're going to send it to like what? I don't know. We're going to send it wherever. I think they kept it in the in a park for some time. One of them got one of them got cut up and repurposed. It looks like a three year old took a professional a professional Lego sculpture and and put it back together like the way a three year old would. Anyways, it's it's silly. We see it we see it over and

43:46over again. We saw it with turning point USA and the kids doing the law cast. We saw it with the statues and a new statue up on the downtown mall that I. Does that get approved by City Council? I mean, I'm not really sure who approves a art in place on the downtown mall, but I find it hypocritical that that's what you would choose. Here's here's another angle that I want to cover on the show. City Council asked police chief Mike conscious to present to them a policy or a plan that would disallow or ban sheltering and the storage of possessions in public places. Chief conscious presented this to city council in front of a packed council chambers littered and crowded with activists, but it wasn't the activist shot chief conscious with metaphorical and proverbial

44:47darts slong insults and hurled four letter words at him and council did not have chief conscious is back. They just let him take it and take it and take it throughout the presentation. Despite the fact that despite the fact that chief conscious was instructed by council to do this, it was storing it was storing of possessions in public are the homeless allowed to to store their possessions in public. And if they are allowed to store their possessions in public, does that mean I'm now legally allowed to bring the statues that I have in my house and store them in public as well. And am I able to bring my chipper Jones statue, my my Mark Ripkin Washington Redskins quarterback statue? Am I able to bring my Claudio Rainia statue? Am I able to bring my Kelly Kapowski life-size

45:54cutout, my Valerie Malone statue? Am I able to bring my Kelly Taylor, my Sophia Petrillo statues? I'm just surprised I've never heard of all these. Am I able to, Judah, you don't know much about pop culture? No, no, no, I'm just surprised you have all these statues. Am I able to bring my Owl Borland statue, my Tim the tool man Taylor statue, my CJ Parker statue, my David Hasselhoff Mitch Buchanan statue and just posted up on the downtown mall. Should we all bring our statues to downtown Charlottesville? Look, the storing of public possessions is legal. Council didn't ban it. Can I not bring my possessions and store them on the downtown mall now? Because you can you can you can you can mock and you can protest and you can and you can effigize as effigize a word. Effigize Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein. Why can't I bring Kelly

46:58Kapowski and Valerie Malone or Sophia Blanche rose and Dorothy or or or or Ryan Klusko and Hobby Lopez and Chipper Jones or Isaiah Thomas and Joe Dumors and Bill Lambeer and and Dennis Robman and John Sally and Vinnie the microwave Johnson and some Chuck daily. Why can't I bring those statues to the downtown mall? Seriously, will that lead an indivisible Charlottesville to showing up on the downtown mall and and and and singing their catchy tunes? What was the catchy tunes? Who was the the city councilor that that led the the charge with the catchy tunes and target with the indivisible Charlottesville? Remember that? That catchy tune. My favorite part was when she went like this and did that and out. Patrick Bull says Jeffrey Epstein did not commit suicide. Kevin Yancey says he's not dead Jeffrey Epstein. See people do you think he's not dead?

47:58I wouldn't say that I walk around the downtown mall telling people I think Epstein is alive but well you are right now on this show. No I'm saying that I've got some doubts that he's to these dead. I'm not like I'm not writing articles about it or trying to convince people. I'm not even convinced just saying I got a call with a perspective 10 at 1.30 pm so we have approximately one we have approximately six minutes left on the show. I want to give some love to 919 Druid Avenue. $699,000 for a completely renovated home. That's in walking distance to everything in literally a 30 second stroll to Belmont Park. 919 Druid Avenue has a basement apartment waiting to be rented at 1,500 to 2,000 dollars a month. The upside on 919 Druid Avenue is tangible and palpable. I'm telling you real estate is how I make my living. This will be valued in the near future at over $800,000 and it's got a basement income-producing apartment waiting

49:03to happen. This is a steel folks. It's completely gutted and renovated. Basically you're getting a brand new home in a lot of ways. Let's talk about Judah Wickauer the Belmont Market. It's for sale right now. Belmont Market is iconic. I mean where else for a couple of generations have you been able to buy your marble lights and your camel lights and your camel reds your cheap domestic beer and your lottery tickets besides Belmont Market. I used to live there in 2005 when I would trot over to Belmont Market at 10 p.m. I'd have to look over bow shoulders stay strapped but I'd walk out with a 12 pack of nanny light that was chopped in half and massed together with some wrapping tape and then I go like this Judah strap right now and I go like this and I keep my 12 pack of nanny light as I sprinted back to to little graves to our house on little graves. Now look at how it's being marketed and presented. Do you have the photos? Yep I'm putting the old one up first.

50:03Here's the old Belmont Market. You guys know what I'm talking about right? They do now. Look at the Belmont Market. This is an iconic market. Now look at how Belmont Market is being marketed and promoted. It's for sale. This is called upside. This is called opportunity. This is called salesmanship. A boutique hotel Judah. A boutique hotel with a wine bar on ground level at the old Belmont Market. Look at the screen. Look at the screen. Judah's rotating photos on screen. Look at that boutique hotel and wine bar at ground floor. For sale right now the Belmont Market. Beautiful. This is is this justification at its finest. Is this evolution at its finest? Is this the definition of change Judah? The obvious questions are where are people going to park? The obvious questions are how is the neighborhood going to respond? The obvious questions are

51:07downtown Belmont on Thursday Friday or Saturday night. Have you been there on Thursday or Friday or Saturday night and tried to manage living there on Thursday or Friday or Saturday night? The the the obvious questions are it's an under hotel community and the upside of a new hotel forever owns it is is is money makes a money here. The obvious questions are is what's the construction going to do to Belmont a neighborhood converting a place where you can buy marble lights and lottery tickets and natty light and and and cold 45 and some old E for your Edward Scissor hands? Why isn't there more building down? Pulling down? Yeah like you you've got basements. Why not have because it's expensive Judah? Yeah. You're basically saying are you asking me why are people not building into the ground tuddling into the ground like the people from demolition man who lived under the ground? There are basements because it's expensive. It's extremely extremely expensive.

52:09Okay. You're having to tunnel into the ground. Yeah and people have done it for a long time. Belmont market. A boutique hotel. Wow wow wow wow. I'll tell you what if a boutique hotel comes to the Belmont market the six that are 99 thousand dollar Druid Avenue 919 Druid Avenue forget the eight handle it's going to have a nine handle. You get a boutique hotel in Weinbar where the Belmont market is. Druid Avenue 919 Druid Avenue a hopskip it a jump away. It's going to start stiff at a million dollars. Last topic on the show before my conference call with the potential tenant at 130 p.m. This guy wants to negotiate terms with me. I'm like come on. Come on. I got a waiting list and people wanting to lease this space. You wanted to go. Come on. South Street Buriedjuda. You want to know what the rent is for South Street Buried?

53:10But it's crazy. 8,900 a month. Base rent. Base rent. Base rent. Base rent. 8,900 dollars a month for South Street Buriedjuda. You wonder why Taylor Smack and Blue Mountain Brewery? The guy who owns Blue Mountain Brewery Taylor Smack owns South Street Buried where he got his start and beer. Why he's openly said the lease doesn't make sense? Because it doesn't make sense. 8,900 dollars a month. Yeah. That's a lot of cheese curds. That's a lot of Satan's ponies. That's a lot of bar hoppers. And that's before. That's a lot of wanton nachos. That's a lot of wanton nachos, Juna. That's before anything else that you have to pay like your staff. Yeah. You're cost of goods. You're electricity. You're chimney sweep. Your utilities. Your meals taxes. It's a gas fireplace

54:12now. It's not wood burning. There are very few wood burning fireplaces. The one at Dirty Nallys. That's what makes it so special. 8,900 a month. That ain't cheap. April six is when South Street Buriedjuda closes. April six is when South Street Buriedjuda closes. Ladies and gentlemen, you better get your cheese curds. Your wanton nachos and your Satan's ponies and your bar hoppers. And now I'd like to give some love to Stanley Martin Holmes. Stanley Martin Holmes is dedicated to building homes that cater to each person's unique needs and lifestyles. High quality single-family homes, town homes, and condominiums at Stanley Martin Holmes. Design and constructed with innovative techniques that ensure exceptional efficiency and aesthetic appeal. Stanley Martin Holmes. Ladies and gentlemen, tomorrow at 10.15 a.m., Nat Galloways in the studio, Jesse Rutherford's in the studio, and Tony O'Brien are in the studio.

55:13Tony O'Brien's supervisor, Flavanna County, Jesse Rutherford's supervisor, Nelson County, Nat Galloways supervisor, Amaro County, real talk with Keith Smith, 10.15 a.m., UVA plays at 150 p.m., tomorrow, 150, and they're opening matchup in the NC-NC-2A tournament. His name is Judith Wicke. My name is Jerry Miller, and this is the water cooler of content and conversation. And it's the I Love See-Vill show.