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Culture, Frameworks and the Age of AI — with Elliot Taylor (Patchstack)

About this episode

I worked with Elliot Taylor at Pfizer years ago, building security tooling on Laravel Nova. Now he runs engineering at Patchstack — and the job looks nothing like it did five years ago.

This one's not a pitch. No sponsor, no prediction deck. Just two people who've been in the trenches talking about what's actually changing — in the role, in the tools, and in how teams ship.

What we get into:

  • Why "traditional engineering is over" and what the role is morphing into
  • The 90/10/200% rule — how most dev skills are fading but the rest got massively amplified
  • What happens when the whole company can @Claude in Slack
  • How Patchstack flipped shift-left on its head — because time-to-exploit went from months to minutes
  • The Codex vs Claude analogy that'll stick with you
  • Where Lovable, Supabase, and no-code fit next to Laravel and hand-carved code
  • Why the People Ops team at Patchstack is now shipping their own apps

Chapters

  • 00:00 — Intro
  • 01:00 — Culture, frameworks, and the books that actually work
  • 03:00 — Rebuilding our old Pfizer security dashboard, the AI way
  • 06:30 — Builders, not engineers
  • 10:00 — AI as a thought partner
  • 12:30 — The role of engineer, irrevocably changed
  • 14:30 — "@Claude, is this possible?" — flattening the company
  • 18:00 — AI slop, bug bounties, and the time-to-exploit problem
  • 23:30 — How Patchstack mitigates at the application layer
  • 27:30 — DORA, boring deployments, and tech debt as a loan
  • 32:30 — Codex vs Claude: two very different personalities
  • 35:00 — No-code, Lovable, and what comes after the engineer

Mentioned in this episode

  • Patchstack — https://patchstack.com/
  • Laravel, Laravel Nova, Filament, Laravel Cloud
  • Claude, Claude Code, Cursor, Codex
  • Lovable, Supabase, n8n, Xano, Softr
  • Accelerate by Nicole Forsgren, Jez Humble, Gene Kim
  • The DevOps Handbook by Gene Kim et al.
  • Continuous Delivery by Jez Humble and David Farley

 

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