Crooked RIver Cast Show 73

0:00This is the Cricket Rivercast where we rob and tom we talk about but we find interesting in the last week of the great state of Ohio. This is show 7-8-3 for the week of September 7th, 2026, Leverday Week and everybody's most people have a long week of anyway let's see what we have for this week. Good morning. Lots to do. Not the bad one in the morning time. In the morning run. It would be things to do. Lots to talk about today. Busy week. Busy week. Busy week. Busy week. How about you? How was your week? Was your week busy or was it just a week? I had to do yesterday off which was Friday and that was cool.

1:03We went to Ohio City and haven't been down there in a while. Stopped at the market garden. Brewery and bread. Things that menu has changed. Mostly pizza. No. With a couple other things. Market Garden? Yeah. But you know what they got there? I had a light IPA which was delicious and it was. Beer. That's what they had there. Yeah. No, they got good beer. I like their beer. You had me at beer. And they had sourdough pizza. It was really good. Yes, I had. That's a good little change for pizza. That's good. Yeah, I liked it a lot. My wife did too. And then after that we had it to a place I've never been to before and it's going to cost me money. Uh oh. What place was that? I went to guitar riot. Oh no. Oh no. Pretty cool music shop that has vintage guitars and new guitars and nice atmosphere there.

2:06A nice place where you can have quiet rooms where you can plug in or try out guitars and instruments. That's how they get you. Nice quiet rooms. You can play the guitar. Oh, it's nice. You know, you go to guitar center. It's hard. Oh, yeah. You're in a little store just playing on people walking high and stuff. I mean, you're listening to a kid play master of puppets while you're trying to play a blues thing. It's like a man. I can't. I can't deal with this. This is cool though. Yeah. I went all the way to the great state of Tennessee this week. I was in Nashville a few days. Nice. Wow. I never been in Nashville's first time and it was hot. Yeah. That's not up here. But you get into Nashville. It gets hot and humid. Humid? I mean, oh, it's only a point two miles. Hey, we can walk. Holy cow. Not really. No, four minute Uber ride. Yeah, that's worth it.

3:06It's $12. Let's go. Yeah. I can't be. And I think the couple of things I learned. Well, in Tennessee, well in Nashville. We took this trolley toy. They have the old old time trolley. You can go around the city. It takes you like an hour and a half, two hours. Stop along the way. You get it all day ticket. You can hop on and off and they narrate as they go. And the bus driver because we know we are in Tennessee, but we are in a big city. So of course, you know, it's homeless everywhere. Now we were in a pretty nice section of downtown Nashville. And the bus drivers probably a better guitar player than most everybody in Cleveland. No, not sure about that, but he was definitely a good drag show. Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah. I wasn't getting a touch on that, but that was. He was great. I mean, he did a lot of stuff. He did a lot of stuff well narrating and making jokes.

4:06And he did a lot of dad jokes. And he's an older guy and not older, but probably late 30s. And but he did bring up something that I think I knew, but I just forgot about. We have Tennessee to blame for the 19th amendment. They were the last state to ratify it. Really? Yeah. He went through the whole thing about this one guy. There was one congressperson or senator. No, you know, probably I think it was a representative or something. And he was going to go vote. No, and he was going to be the deciding vote and wasn't going to go through. And then his mama wrote him a letter. Oh, and then he and then the little guy decided to vote. Yes. So then I immediately said, oh, so we have him to blame. And then we looked. Everybody looked at me like, what did you just say? Like, yeah, I said it. So the same people that want plants to get off are the ones that are now able to vote.

5:09Yes. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, I'm clapping. I know you forget to pull a clip on something and the Babylon B has a good video about that. But her being the next Democratic nominee for presidential election coming up. Yeah. With her. Hungry. From what it sounded like it was nine against one or something like that. Well, well, I love it. I guess one probably. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's nine. I knew she was going to get off. Nine women on the jury. Nine women and two guys have wanted to get letter off. And one guy stood ground. Yes. Many of memes I'm seeing float. No. No. No. The other one. The other others. The other one. The other. Coct to the women. And you know, they did come up actually in conversation throughout the week. And some some people were saying there is some could be some shady stuff going on with the husband on that. Not nice. Not just to find anything that she did.

6:11But there was something with him in the doctor. And I was prescribing her to pills. Okay. Then put the husband in trial. Well, all of them go in trial. I don't even know. It doesn't matter. They can all share a freaking cell for all I care. And rotten hells for as I understand. But anyway, Tennessee is the blame. Yes, we can blame Tennessee. But I did see something really cool. We went to the museum that actually matters, Tom. The music hall of fame. Musicians hall of fame. Yeah. A real one. Yes. Like the rock hall. Not like rock hall. Not even like, I mean, grand old La Brea had been cool. We didn't have, you know, wasn't a ton of time. This work. Work related. It's like a little city on its own, right? Oh my gosh. Yeah. We were cross diagonal from it. I'm like, what is it? Because I'm like, that looks like an arena. No, that thing is like, if you take your average arena, like the one downtown Cleveland or Columbus or something, I would say it's three of those put together. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I heard. That's the country music hall of fame. That's the country music hall of fame. That's the grand old opera and all that.

7:13Yeah. It's supposed to be pretty cool. But the museum that's hall of fame was interesting because it's, it's really focused on all those people that you've listened to for years. And you never knew they weren't actually people on the album cover. A lot of cases, yes, but in many, many cases, well, it's all the studio musicians. Duty musicians. A lot of it, most of it was focused on studio musicians and it was really cool. It could have been, we'd been nicer, it was bigger. We spent an hour, we spent an hour there. Could have spent an easy another half hour going back and through and seeing some of the stuff you may have skipped over. But that's what everybody said. This is so cool. Why isn't it bigger? Did you make it to the blue note? No. No, that might sister wanted to go see that. What's the blue note? I called the blue note. Oh, a place. Bluebird. Oh, what was, yeah, what was that was from the show Nashville, the place where songwriters going, try songs out. I was working, you know, it's like we had some leeway in the where we go, but I'm really trying to entertain customers. Yeah, yeah. Kind of like we can nudge things in certain directions.

8:15Sorry. I just knocked you off your rails from the, from the Hall of Fame music Hall of Fame. Yeah, yeah, he did. Somewhere else. Somewhere else. I'm sorry, the bluebird came up and, you know, I thought of that because I knew my sister wanted to go see that. No, I remember. Thank you. Yes. So what we did do though, I started looking into where to go for music. Yeah, because one of my customers, him and his wife there, she's, I knew she was in it like, you know, 80s rock and stuff like the 70s and 80s rock. You just got a Broadway for that. Oh, sort of. So they had gone the Broadway. They got in like six hours early on us. They had already gone the Broadway. And one of the things they said is I've heard, I heard when I was doing some research on what to do. I heard this a couple, come up a couple times. They said, yeah, well, we went to three, three floors of the same bar and heard the same song. Yeah, that's what it is out there. It's basically, and even a guy in the trolley tour is like, yeah, if you want to hear the same 10 songs over and over again, here's where you want to go.

9:16But I already knew I'd already looked into a place called Printer's alley. Yeah, Printer's alley. Yes, that's the other place that's the other tourist trap. Yeah. Well, this is not, I mean, yes, it's all tourist trap. But well, Broadway is a little bit more for, isn't that a little bit more for the rest commercialized? Commercialized, it's more for the younger crowd. Yeah. Partying, you're just getting drunk, right? Isn't that where the Hock tour girl was? I think so. Yeah, I think she was out there. All I remember is we had your pulling up in the Uber. It was Wednesday night. It was packed with people on Broadway. I'm like, crap. Yeah. I'd hate to see this place on a Saturday or this weekend coming up here. But Printer's alley is just tiny little, I guess they used to have a lot of printing business back in the day. So it was Printer's alley. And there was a couple of, they're very small bars and it's mostly Blues Jazz rock a little bit. Right. So we saw, we, well, I had a couple in mind that I had looked up and I just picked the first one that we came up to.

10:16I can't remember the name of the bar. I'll find it. And it was a called Stacey Mchard band. He was a, I think a New Orleans. He looked like sort of, the old look guy probably in the 60s, it looks like maybe I've Cuban descent. They had their, their bucket for tips had a, a New Orleans Saints logo on it. So I'm pretty sure they're from New Orleans. New Orleans? New Orleans. New Orleans. It was. Bourbon Street Blues and Boogie Bar. That's where you went to. So I mean, I couldn't have been more than 150 people in this bar. So you went, you went to Skulls Rainbow Room. Bourbon Street Blues and Boogie Bar. That was three in my next one was Skulls because everyone had some live music. Because it's Wednesday, it's time to, not every place, most, most do, but not every place. That place is actually a jazz and burlesque supper club. Interesting. Yeah. The Skulls Rainbow Room. Yeah. So that was going to be my second stop. I was going to say one of those two, whichever one comes first, we'll go there and we never left.

11:17I found out my, my customer really loves blues and jazz. So we spent, I don't know, two and a half hours to listen to this guy. We closed the bar. Nice. I haven't done that in a long time. Yeah. I mean, I shouldn't give myself too much credit. They did close at midnight. Oh, really? Yeah. They were, they were in less set and they did less call about midnight. Yeah. And I think Printer's alley is a little bit more of a refined experience. It's like, yeah, it's not as commercially kind of right. It was the whole thing I was trying to go. And they weren't, people I was with weren't huge country fans, and either, am I? Not that you, because I was looking at Kid Rock and there's a couple of words made. They had to, that's where they went to Kid Rock and heard the same song and two floors in it. What's the other one heard the same song on one floor and the different same song and two other floors. It's like, yeah, that's the, that's the thing. Out there, you know, I mean, those, well, most of those bands are just playing for tips. I mean, they can make good money, but yeah. So they're playing what people are asking for.

12:19Yeah. What's hot? Yeah. Well, I think I was a blast. Oh, I have a, that was, they were really good. That's a Stacy Michard and they were really good. Cool. And an organ on stage and it was awesome. So we had a blast. I can't, I, I would love to go back, but. And maybe definitely not on the weekend. I think you got to hit. If you want to see some like more stuff like that, then you got to go to East Nashville. And that's where got the retrap and that's where you'll find it. That's right. I can go back and stuff like that. Yeah. Well, we have a 20th anniversary next year. So. Oh, cool. Already talking about something to do. Maybe that's one of the things we do. Go back there and. I don't know. We'll see you. Yeah. That's, I've been wanting to do that trip for a while. But I really just want to go and take time and. I don't want to do the Broadway thing. I just, I mean, I don't mind. I'll go there if I, if there's somebody I want to go see that's playing, but I kind

13:22of want to just find the. The legends and find out where they're playing and. Because a lot of them will just sit in with local bands and play and you're sitting in a small, small little bar and watching a legend play that somebody else with was completely 100% sure that they saw Sammy Hagar hotel. It easily. Yeah. No, he can't be. He's in Vegas. So I did a quick look up and actually, they asked Grock, hey, we're the same in Hagar in Nashville and Grock's like, well, we don't know where he's at, but he has a two week gap in his schedule. Yeah. He's very possible. I'm like, yeah, he just come down to have, he's see a friend or. It's not even that they could come. Yeah, exactly that right there. Like if he, if somebody asked him to be on an album or something, it's, it's in Nashville. You're not going to V, L.A. or New York anymore. Right. I was like, no way. I'm like, yeah, it's very possible. Like one of the places you say to be Vegas for here. Well, there was a Vegas.

14:22There was a story that I heard of one guy he was playing in a cover band. And on Broadway, I think he said, you know, he's doing his thing there. And you know, this guitar player was a pretty famous guy already, but he's, you know, playing for a few bucks to get by that week. And he's, he's a band. The band starts the range. Dan and, you know, the how, how, how, how easy top song. The bar owner is like sitting or waving at him, no, stop, stop playing. He keeps going. Meanwhile, Billy Gibbons just walked in and sat at the bar. So that's what you get at in Nashville. These guys are just walking around and having fun. Anyways, he sat at the bar and he just said, no, come on, not this and just dropped the 20 on the bar and walked out.

15:24Oh, no. Well, but here's, here's the last thing to say about it. I was recognized, Tom. Yeah, I saw a fan of the show. Our show? Yeah. I'm at here. I'm at this cocktail thing, meet and greet at this event and I get some guy, hey, I know that voice. Aren't you that guy in the cricket room? No, that didn't happen. Yeah, I didn't think so. But I did see a fan. That's not a joke. What size was like 13 inch fan, 26 inch? No, no, Tom. Tom, what? They had a Steve. I Steve. For the mine, Steve, I saw at the event, the conference, no, we chatted a bit. He still listens. He enjoys the show. He says, he said these weird things that were getting better. I was like, he said, yeah, he said, keep it up. So I said, thank you, Steve. You guys suck, but you suck a little less this week. Wow.

16:24You just came across my motto. Suck less every day. These are someone who sucks less. That's a, that's nothing fancy for him. Oh, yeah, yeah. Does he still have a show? Yeah, he does. Everyone's a while pops up, I mean, he kind of got away from doing regular stuff, but he do everyone's a while he pops up. I mean, he's got two channels. He started talking a little bit more politics, didn't he? Yeah, that's probably why he's kind of got away from it. Well, I felt like, because I was like, okay, I'm just listening to two other people throughout the day about this topic. Yeah. But when he talks about gun stuff, I like, yeah, but that was his motto. Suck less every day. He was a pretty good reviewer of honest reviewer. Yeah, I like, yeah, I like those, but kind of lost track of it. Right. Well, let's not lose track of the show here. Okay. Wow. That was pretty good, actually. So I figured it is, we've rolled into September and in preparation for flu season, I thought

17:26I'd throw this in there. This is how I'm prepping for flu season. So there's going to be, there's going to be the, the portion there. It's going to be, oh my gosh, get your kids, you know, flu shots and stuff like that. Just a little reminder, this is how I'm preparing for flu season. This is a clip from 2006. Here's what scientists have found. Over 20 years, the percentage of seniors getting flu shots increased sharply from 15% to 65%. It stands to reason that flu deaths among the elderly should have taken a dramatic dip, making an X-Graph like this. Instead, flu deaths among the elderly continue to climb. It was hard to believe. So researchers at the National Institutes of Health set out to do a study, adjusting for all kinds of factors that could be masking the true effect of the shots. No matter how they crunch the numbers, they got the same disappointing result. Flu shots have not reduced deaths among the elderly. It's not what health officials hope to find. NIH wouldn't let us interview the study's lead author.

18:26So we went to Boston and found the only co-author not employed by NIH, Dr. Tom Reichert. We realized that we had incendiary materials. Dr. Reichert says they thought their study would prove vaccinations had helped. We were trying to do something mainstream. That's for sure. Were you surprised? I astonished you. Did you check the data a couple of times to make sure? Well, even more than that, we've looked at other countries now. And the same is true. What do you find? What do you find? Zoom to be published finds the same poor results in Australia, France, Canada and the UK. And other new research stokes the idea that decades of promoting flu shots and seniors and the billion spent haven't had the desired result. The current head of national immunizations, confirmed CDC is now looking at new strategies but stopped short of calling the present policy a failure. There's an active dialogue into how we can do better. So what's their solution? The fact that influenza and its complications in the elderly. So what's their solution, Tom? 20 years ago, what do you think it would be?

19:28More shots. Okay. Well, we'll see if you're right. Older person to do, the CDC says they should still get their flu shots, that it could make flu less severe or prevent other problems, not reflected in the total numbers. Or, it's for CDC to likely shift in the near future, more toward protecting the elderly and around about the day by vaccinating more children and others around them, if you give them the flu. Cheryl Acaston, CBS News, Washington. Wow. 20 years before, 15 years before COVID. Well, I'm doing the same thing. Oh, just vaccinate everybody to save the few. When did they legalize advertising drugs on TV? I don't know. I don't know. I mean, the 90s, I think. I would think of the 90s or really. I have my bot. Oh, you got a robot?

20:28No. I got Grock bot. Oh, okay. A budget, budget robot. I was going to say, why we had that much room in the budget for a robot? I need a raise. What's the block going to say? So how do you got to interact with? You got to type it in or? Yeah. Well, I could talk, but oh, you know, I shouldn't just turn the mic on. Then we just know what we're talking about. Yeah, probably interrupt us 15 times to tell us how great it is. Oh, it doesn't talk. It just types. Oh, well, even that's kind of AI ever. Well, actually, I have to read all that. I'm going to try that next week. Yeah, really it's going to be like, I give up. You guys suck. Yeah. Okay. So hang on. Yeah. Jamie is working. I got my own Jamie. Jamie, you named it or did it name itself? No, I named it. Jamie. Yeah, I have a Dale who's my chief of staff. I have Chef Jack. He's the household chef that puts together a menu for the entire week and a grocery list.

21:30Oh, yeah, I use this through my trip. And Charles is my quick and river cast researcher. I did use Grock quite a bit for this trip to help me find, you know, like set us spend an hour or 40 minutes looking up websites. It took me four minutes to find like 15 different places to eat. With the links to the open tables, I can do reservations and play, yada, yada, yada. What's the closest one? I'll just stay close. I'll just wait next to the hotel. Cool. Okay. So it was never illegal. They just put guidelines in. And nobody, I guess prior to this, nobody really tried, you know, didn't really advertise. In 97 FDA drafted a guidance broadcast for ads. Let's see. The major risks. So they had to give major risks, you know, all the side effects and all that.

22:31And a toll free number print ad needs to go along with this somewhere, I guess. Website path for full labeling. In the final, final guidance was in 1999. So I bet all those type of things start ramping up right around them. It's, I bet. I mean, that's perfect because it seems like there was nothing. There was no regulation on advertising on public airways. And then Congress decided they saw an opportunity to make some money. So then they go, we're going to put regulations on it and they wait for the donations to come in. And you know what? This was in 97. So in 96, if you, I don't know all the details about it and I don't feel like typing all this in right now, but too much time on it. Yeah. Bill Clinton allowed all the major broadcast companies to merge. Don't forget. That's when like a channel, clear view, clear channel and all those others started buying

23:32up all the small stations. Yeah. And so then you basically had three or four broadcast companies, right? At that point. Yes. Communion for the drug companies. Yes. We only have to deal with three companies. It says it's 78 or whatever. Yeah. It was probably a lot more than that. I was 100. Think of all those. Yeah. All those private little broadcast places. Channel. And that's how they would do it. They would say, oh, we need some rules here. Who wants to help us design these rules by giving us their suggestions and their money? And then all the drug companies go, we do, we do. Hey, me, me, me. Pick me. And then they go, we pick all of you. So like, like that news report that you had, that's basically advertising. Was that was advertising? Yeah. Well, in a way, yes. Like, oh, get your children vaccinated. It's not advertising to old people. Advertising to the parents. Yeah. They're in lockstep with the pharmaceutical companies. They're not going to say anything bad about them. They're like, oh, you know, so it really isn't helping the old people. I think we're going to vaccinate the young people so they don't get the old people sick.

24:34And I bet you that didn't help either. So no, no, because right before a quarter, remember, it was on the decline. It had been on the client for a couple of decades as far as each year is less than a couple points less of people who, and it was, it was almost going to be, I think it was just about 40% and just about the dip under before COVID. Right. But yeah, just to, you know, prepare, talk to your doctor, but that's how I'm preparing so that when people say, hey, do you get a flu shot? And we're like, no, and here's why I'll have it just pulled right up on. Anyway, so next next is an actual story, which I had last week, but we held it because I want to do a fully packed show last week. So this week is something what's up in Madina? Something's wrong in Madina. House pricing. This is, well, not maybe, maybe not for long with this. So here is, this is actually a three part series from Channel 3, WKYC, out of Cleveland. And this is the parts of the first one. So of the first one of three, I guess.

25:37And there are some patterns in Madina with, you know, cancer and children and stuff. And here's the report. For months now, families in Madina County have been asking a frightening question. Why have so many people, including children, been diagnosed with cancer? They say their concerns have not been taken seriously. So they started gathering names, addresses and stories on their own. This evening, 3-Dews investigator Peter Fleischer begins with the families behind the map. And the mystery they say can no longer be ignored. I left one of these in a couple of four. That was like a day after. Yeah. I did not look happy in that. While McEwen never saw a warning sign in her healthy, active teenage daughter Madeline, it doesn't even feel real, honestly. Which made it even more devastating when Madeline was diagnosed with Hodgkin lymphoma at 15 years old. Madeline recovered and is still in remission. But the old normal never really came back.

26:39We didn't really take it as far, think as much, which I thought was kind of strange. And then another six months, another 15-year-old that went to the same schools was diagnosed too. And then we started talking to other people and I just started writing things down. And then I realized that there were six kids coming out of those schools. Three news spoke with more than a half dozen Madina area families whose children got cancer in their preteen or teenage years from 2021 to 2024. This talked and talked and started connecting dots. Would emerged was a map and a fear they could not shake. Concerned Madina citizens built this list themselves using self-reported cancer records. You can see a high volume of cases, many of them pediatric and in the same area. But families say when they asked the local school district, health department and other public agencies for testing or clearer answers, they felt dismissed and left to investigate

27:42on their own. No reported direct link, but many reasons to ask questions. And there's one place. They asked questions. He's in this report in front of a big screen like they do in the studios. The map of Madina these parents have put together with public records of cancer patients in Madina. But they don't say in this report, they say it in the next two. I saw those. But right now there's over 200 self-reported cancer cases in the Madina area on this map. Not all kids, but most of the they said a large portion of our kids. So if you look at the map, if you can look at the thumbnail on the show notes time, you can see a picture of the map. They're pretty clustered close together. I mean, Madina County is not that big. So they started asking questions. I mean, I don't, is this a lot for a, for a nearer? Well, that's the questions they're asking.

28:44And they're looking for a source. They're asking questions, hey, is this unusual? And everybody's like, well, well, actually what they're doing is doing this. That thing to see here, please, things first. They're not getting answers. So they started looking there at their own information. What they can find? What's fishy in the area? And they came across this. They keep coming back to Madina County deputies sealed off the landfill at about nine this morning, refusing to allow garbage trucks in. Officials contend trucks carrying hazardous waste have been seen on landfill property. There is approximately 22 years worth of hazardous waste in this landfill. More importantly, they say he allows potentially dangerous runoff to enter groundwater and area streams. The biggest concern that started was that this is a historic landfill from the 50s, which was not lined in the bottom. I think the government needs to look into it. I think they need to test areas.

29:44I think they need to come up with something better for that landfill. Their map doesn't solve the mystery, but in a community full of questions, families say they can no longer afford to ignore any possibility, even one that's been buried for years. Now, what you don't see or don't see because you're listening, and there's no video, obviously, is they've got this as videos. I think I think it's 90s. It's hard because it looks old video, but it's easily early 90s, early mid 90s, before HD and all that stuff came out. But the reporters are on the landfill talking about how they closed it down because they've seen all these trucks going in with hazardous material. They've got a crowbar digging underneath the grass on the top of the landfill. It looks like there's liquid nails right underneath the grass instead of dirt. It looks like there's just glue just sitting under the fricking grass. It's crazy. They don't know.

30:44They're saying, can you test it? Well, so yes, Hodgkin's lymphoma. So previous health department findings also noted elevated numbers of Hodgkin's lymphoma among teenagers connected to Medina city schools. So it seems to be higher than normal. The landfill suspect suspicions. This is questions focused on the historic Monteville landfill, which stopped. I'll just know 80s. I'm wrong. It stopped accepting waste in 1985 and was capped in 1995. And was documented history of environmental pollution and leaching generation. Leach eight generations. Excuse me. So they tested it and said published reports in June stated that methane issues have been addressed and that official registry data indicates census texts, tracks,

31:44near indicates census. Tracks near the landfill. I'm not sure what that means. What do you going to do? So why show higher rates than state national average of methane? I think they're talking about, but methane is not going to hurt. I don't think methane is going to get into groundwater and cause cancer. But what they're showing is though in some of these reports is the watershed goes right to where all these cases are passed right through the school and all that stuff. So if you get a lot of kids playing in the woods, playing on baseball fields. So independent experts and citizens have criticized the health department's analysts for grouping all cancer types together, omitting areas with high concentrates of self-reported cases

32:46and lack of transparency. So they're still looking into it and of course they're not getting answers from their government. Shocker. Oh my gosh, no. Yeah. So what part of Medina County is this? It is say, Montville. Oh, okay. Yeah, it's Montville, former Montville dump, landfill. So it's focused on historic Montville landfill. I'm assuming. Yeah, that's where Montville. The Montville township and there's two. We got two of them in Ohio here in Kauho. I should say, oh, that's a summit or Medina County and then we have one in Geogo. So cancer map. I know I want an actual picture of the map, not the link to the story.

33:56Yeah. It's pretty, I don't know. I can't imagine, I mean, look at that map. That's a lot of dots. Yeah. It's very shocking. I don't think that's normal, but I don't really know. And according to some of the health department saying, yeah, there is elevated cases of Hodgkin and Pholma. And can you two look into it? I guess. I don't know if they're going to get any answers. What are they going to do? They have to do different testing, more testing. Who's going to pay for it? So so far, there's no elevated all cancer rates and census. There's no confirmed cancer cluster, no verified offsite contamination. Ohio EPA still monitors the closed landfill, methane fixed in 2022, water monitoring going on. The community fear is real.

34:57Yeah. So Jamie doesn't have much more either. So I meant by census tracks, I guess, right or wrong. Yeah, revealed official census tracks near the landfill. Show cancer rates were higher than state average in some tracks, but still within normal range from a dinocanny as a whole. Right. Okay. And that's that part of the other parts of the story they've had is they've got some outside experts coming and go, well, yeah, but here's the thing. You got to answer their questions. They're asking questions because their kids are getting sick and you're not giving many answers. It's frustrating them. So they're going to start digging and then what happens is they're going to start going off pulling any thread they can and you know, not necessarily finding the truth. You know, I mean, because you're very emotional and it's like you have to answer these people's questions. It's ridiculous that you can't. And I mean, again, kill those are how you get.

36:00Yeah, you get it. That's how you get people so frustrated are willing to do crazy, crazy things because you just won't give them answers. Gaslighting them and blowing them off. It's good. So anybody in Medina has any updates on that or any news on that. Share it with the show. Quick and Rivercast at gmail.com. Okay. Next one. We'll stop with this world quick. This is though, Mr. Rama Swami. What did what did a what did Dr. Percase Vivek? Vivek's like the rub that you put on your chest. So Vivek has challenged Amy to a debate. No. Wait, what he did, but he got invited by CNN and WLWT from Columbus to do an on air. Yep, debate. The challenge to challenge Acton and go ahead. Accepted. Yes, he accepted the same day.

37:03And Amy issued a statement that boiled down to a hard no compared according to the Columbus dish, you know, that right wing rag, the Columbus dispatch, which is what Vivek said in one of the interviews I saw on the axis. Like, yeah, you know, I got that that right wing, that right wing news organization, CNN asked me to do an interview or a debate. Acton's campaign manager Phil Stein said in a written statement that Rama Swami is a scam artist who spreads lies about acting in her family. Rama Swami is billing everybody's has spent more than $50 million in on disgusting inaccurate attacks. I mean, family smears. Yeah, because I don't know. She got her, she, she, the police did show up to her house. It's not lying. Yeah. And she was drinking well on taking medication. I mean, I do hope they move off this a lot slightly.

38:03I mean, I'm not sure what I'm not sure what I'm seeing really. I'm seeing a lot of those ads, but there's an easier, easier topic or easier thing to get her on is a lack of leadership. Well, yeah, she quit. So I see, I see those ads too. Because this is, you know, I, it's funny to joke about we do it on the show, but I, I mean, to me, it's, it's not for most people. No, people aren't going to care. What the debate? No, her, her drinking and throwing things at her husband. Oh, no, I think that's a big thing. I don't, I, I doesn't move the deal for me at all. I don't, I mean, I get it. It's all part of the thing. Well, you're not voting for her anyways. Oh, I know, but I don't, I don't think, but I think I think it's not going to change anybody's mind. I don't think. Oh, I guess if you were that on the fence, you, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think boomers it does. Good, yeah. If they're an independent voter, I think for the boomers it does, maybe the older, older gen Xers. So you think spousal abuse were override? I don't want to vote for any Indian.

39:05Could it be the tipping point for some people? Yeah, I think so. Or not just, obviously, that's the, that's the tongue in cheek part, but he is, they're, our angle for him is he's not really from Ohio. Yeah, he's not a, it's not really from the US. He is. Well, yeah, you know what I mean? Yeah, he's an anchor baby and all of the stuff. Yeah. All that's not necessarily untrue, but I, I, Vivek has a, a pill battle, but also does Amy. She has a, yeah, steeper hill. I'm out. Yeah. She has no leadership experience. And when she would had any touch, even came adjacent to leadership, she ran and she hasn't done anything in five years. But we do have the 19th amendment. So it, thanks Tennessee. Yeah, we usually get one to two debates and we're not getting any and a parallel note here that I found Katie Hobbes declined a live debate with Carrie Lakin, Phoenix or Arizona.

40:06And she's still one. Yes. That's all. Supposedly. It says in here, generally, the major party candidates debate at least once when it's a race or an open seat in Ohio's governor's office. Republicans, John Kasich and like DeWine skipped debating their challengers when running for second terms, both cruised to re-election. Yeah. So it's not unheard of for not, they're not to be a debate, but it is a little bit weird for two, you know, for not an incumbent, usually an incumbent. Yeah, I'm so far up in the poll. I don't need to debate you. Right. This is not the case. They are, according to polls, basically neck and neck. Regardless of the accuracy of those, but in perspective, his reality, a lot of times in that right now, they look like they're neck and neck. They look like they're neck and neck, but usually the Republican is usually like three points, you know, kind of like a skewed three points. I would say five to seven, but you know, I think it's more like three.

41:08I think it's more than a barge of air, usually for that there's a little bit more than a barge of air for a poll. So if I usually go five, because you know, you can, you can look at any poll and go two is three points either way, because there's always a margin of air of at least two is three. But yeah, whatever. I mean, I know they're skewed, but even if it's three points off, it's still neck and neck. Okay. That's how you're taking it. Because I thought it was like, I think Vivek was like point two up. Oh, I see. Let me, real clear politics, polling. I don't think there's any new polls lately. So he's in the lead by three or four points. That's, I mean, I guess not in these times, it's not, it's not neck and neck, but it's enough to sway. I mean, you can, you can have one story to sway election. Two, three points. Right. So to me, it's, you know, being up three or four points is not still neck and neck. I don't know. Yeah. Oh, actually, I'm looking at the latest one, which was taken August 13th by Fox News here. Vivek is up by two in that poll.

42:09Okay. Yeah. And average, average, average, uh, acting's up point three, actually. Oh, well, yeah. Well, they're, regardless, when you're, usually when there's two new candidates, there's a debate. I mean, I do you think they're really going to, they're not going to debate. I was really looking forward to that debate. She can't, she can't. Yeah, I know that would have, that would have gave us. Some, uh, clips, we've got to got some nice clips out of that. It's so good for the show. Yeah. No, I, I, I almost won her. It'll win because of that. Uh, but, uh, because I don't like your thing, but, you know, what are you going to do? I can't, I can't vote for her. No. I mean, there's, there's a dependent candidate apparently. And by this story, a day told me in this video, the story, there is a, or not independent, but a, uh, libertarian candidate. Yeah. Okay. Or, um, I don't, he's some guy. Um, so yeah, there's that, she said, nope, sorry, going to pass.

43:14And I think that's the, we're going to leave it. I don't think, I mean, she's not going to go on CNN for a debate. She's probably not going to go on any other stage. She, she can't debate. Yeah. Have you ever heard her talk? Unfortunately, yes, yeah, you know exactly. That's harsh. It hurts my feelings that you would, uh, remind me of that. I've, I'm talking to the audience. Oh, anyway, she's on my feet all the time. Now, look, I stopped here. I stopped at this little place here and I took the, this morning was, I took the rapid, the RTA. It's so beautiful in the RTA. What do you, you are drunk? Oh, it explains everything. Okay. Next story is, I mean, I just have one question. Why? Why Tom? I'm not, I'm not even going to hide this. This was Tom's story. So you guys read into what you want. But why Tom's, uh, the story here is channel five. Channel Fox eight has a Travis and Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey paid less than asking price

44:18for Noetsie's Ohio home. Why is that the headline? I don't know. I just say, I just say, save the story to remind me to mention it. Yeah. Taylor Swift, I'm going to be, you know, I drive through Brad almost every day. So I'm going to wave high to her. They're almost like they paid less than asking price. And why, why would they pay less? They're rich. Well, maybe they were asking too much. They were asking 5.99 million. They paid 5.3 million. I mean, it's a nice discount. What's been, it was actually cut from seven million down to 5.99 and then to 535. What's your historic house in Bratville? Yeah, it's a, it's a 21,000 square foot. It's, it's, it's 11 bathrooms. What in the zillow? It's right on the lake. It's, I think it's the next door to the Charby Club. What? What is Taylor and Travis's stance on immigration? Anyone know? Did they, did they spout out nonsense like typical celebrities, do you know? I don't think so. I wonder what their position on the border wall was.

45:20She can't say too much. She's, you know, she's, she's, she's a smart business person. Yeah. But I didn't know this big, big, beautiful walls around the front of the house. Yeah. And then the other side, I'm sure there's some guns there too. Oh, yeah. And then the other side, there's a lake. So how do you, how are they going to patrol that? Hmm. So there, if you're a bowler and a tre, and a Taylor's fan, then now you know where to go. You can just hang out and with your binoculars and from the lake. Um, but I did, I did pull. I'm asking you why I'm the one who pulled a freaking clip. So, oh, you pulled a clip? I pulled, yes, because here's the interesting there, there's, it seems like a, a, a, a, a very kind warning to Taylor and Travis from a neighbor. Well, things have been relatively quiet here in front of Taylor and Travis's new home on Lake Shore Boulevard. And folks we spoke to say they hope it stays that way out of respect for their privacy. This is an old community. People move here for a reason. And we want to welcome them and make them feel like they made a really great decision.

46:22Pat Menett lives close to the stars new home. She says she's not surprised. They chose this location. I think that they saw what those of us that live here know it's charming. It is safe. Um, people are very protective of each other. You don't hear people talking about the other residents other than these are our neighbors. And so we welcome them. The welcome party is certainly underway. Sure. Are you sure? I think we sounded a little bit like, um, we like it quiet here. But we welcome you. We wink. Uh, yeah. Yeah, it's charming, Tom. It's charming. Six million dollars. It's well, yeah, of course it is. It's for six million dollars. It's funny. It's got the lake on one side and the hood on the hood. Yeah. That's where if you ever wonder where they get the term born on the other side that are wrong side of the tracks, we live on the other side. It's literally Brat and all and he's clean. Yeah, that's a good example. We're in a million dollar homes. You go under a bridge under the freeway on the other side of railroad tracks and it's

47:25like just utter ghetto. It's amazing. Yeah. I mean, you have to go past the guards at the other one side. I don't do that. Sorry. No, that's actually that was little Italy. Yes, I was a little Italy. You know, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. I don't know why they were there. Anyway, anyway, next one we got here. Is that the next one Travis and Kelsey? Yes. We're going to I'll do a quick quick a river casted.com check out the blog Monday's Conduct to Show. Even on a holiday, they'll still be there. We're going to go into, you know, it's already been too long, 45 minutes. We're going to go into our main topic of the day, which is we figured we'd touch on a little excitement that's going on in the Springfield with with the ice with the ISIS. No, not the ISIS, the ice. Laurel's the lots of ISIS people.

48:25Not. You know, Springfield. They're eating the dogs. They're eating the cats eat the cat eat the cats love that part. I should love that every cut that. Well, Springfield there's there's stuff going on. Let's just start with this ice is definitely in Springfield. You know, I you know how we know. Because everybody has cell phones woman gave us videos she said showed immigration, enforcement agents taking somebody away in an unmarked van. You sent her sevens Amber Jenkins is about in Springfield sharing her conversation with this woman Amber. My hold on this slim pickens for news reporters in Springfield apparently because this mishmouth I don't. James, I spoke with her and the video is gaining a lot of attention online and it's bringing out a lot of opinions. It shows at least four unmarked vehicles over here at this car wash blocking in another car inside the last stall. There they go everybody. Yes, she is active. So if you see them, you know what time it is.

49:26The only thing that I notice is that big white van and the way they threw him in that big white van and just pulled off. So if that van is around, I'm sure that's to see more than one person. Amy Moore was getting coffee at the Southern Village shopping center in Springfield Monday morning. But her attention was drawn to this car wash in her video. You can see men in tactical gear in several unmarked cars. Once I realized it was ice, I continued to record because that's what I do and I just felt like it needed to be recorded. He was all alone and someone else needed to be there, you know, to at least show what was happening. Adding, she saw agents surround a Haitian man who was using this car wash. How does she know his Haitian? Thousands of Haitians lived in Springfield or in the pre-protected status. It expired in July. This video quickly spread throughout the community and some people told me they're expecting more scenes like this in Springfield.

50:27There's a boy. Hey, shock in the air. They need to do it. Ernest Madison told me ice agents are working in Americans best interests. They're working up local resources. Give us a chance. They gave them a chance. Why they can't give us a chance, you know what I'm saying? But more just not agree and plans on recording the next time she comes across this thing. Yes, you will. But the thing is, is they're moving so quietly through Springfield. We have no clue unless we just stumble upon what's happening. I reached out to the Department of Homeland Security. It did not confirm or deny agents were out here at this car wash earlier today. But it did confirm that agents are executing daily operations here in Ohio. Live in Springfield, Amber Jenkins, New Sinner said. That's from WHIO-TV7. So, yeah, that's how we know the ISIS in Springfield because you got to record them because that's what I do. That's what she does.

51:29Yeah, and it's like, how do you know he was Haitian? You racist. It was a black woman, so there's proof. Can't be racist. Anyway, so there's that. So now we know they're in, they're doing active raids, I guess, for one guy at a car wash. And how did they know he was at that car wash? Did he crash into the car wash? Did he pass by a flock camera? I don't know if city Springfield is participating. I don't think Dayton is. Springfield probably. I don't think Springfield is. The mayor of Springfield is being against, yeah, that very much against ISIS being in this town. Big business definitely does not like ice in their town. So also, now we had a big story that's kind of popped it.

52:31I think a couple days ago, a kid died. So it's a big new story. So what's the deal? This kid, Perry, the Moss Bell, Bell, Bell, apparently, for the reports, he is a illegal immigrant, illegal alien. He was tagged. He's 20 years old, going to college, graduated high school in Springfield, in Springfield area, and had an ankle monitor put on by ICE. And his parents are saying he committed suicide by pulling over on ICE 70, jumping out of this car and running in front of a semi truck. I was like, really? That's a hell of a way to commit suicide. That is, that is, that takes some, some cojonia to do that kind of.

53:33I don't believe that, but. Well, then what's the, what's the alternative? What's, why else did he jump in front of a truck? I don't know. Asians can't drive either. So this pulled over on the highway. He thought he saw something there and wanted to pick it up. Well, he got about the rest of the time. He was bullied. Here's the, this is NBC 4, I think Springfield Columbus area, a little, a little background on what's going on. And, you know, sometimes it's hard to say these words, but listen to that one, run news casters, he's a hard time sending illegal. He's got to say, well, I'm quoting here, illegal alien or whatever column. So here you go. Couple, a couple of good points in here. We are following the investigation into the death of a 20 year old college student in Springfield, a semi truck struck Pierre de Moss Bell yesterday morning. His family believes he committed suicide by walking on to I 70 after he lost his immigration

54:34status. Bell was a Haitian immigrant attending school at Wright State University. Like thousands of others in the Springfield area, he lost his temporary legal protection and ICE placed an ankle monitor on him. On social media, Bell posted he came to the United States to pursue his education and it was quote, carrying a feeling of shame and humiliation, referring to walking around with the ankle monitor. Bell's father says his son called him just before eight yesterday morning, saying he couldn't take the bullying from fellow students anymore. And before Wright State, Bell was recruited to play soccer at Wittenberg University. However, the ankle monitor kept him from being able to play. Springfield pastor and immigrant advocate Carl Gerber read a statement from Bell's father as he and others called on state leaders for a change in policy. Governor Mike DeWine also spoke on Bell's death reiterating he disagrees with the current

55:34elimination of TPS. My son was outfitted with the ankle monitor. He felt like he was treated like an animal. He took two trips to Cincinnati and Westerville to plead the officers to remove the bracelet since he's a soccer player and he felt embarrassed and humiliated when his class meets at the university to student Wright State. He was bullied a lot with a lot of people telling him he's a criminal. I think we have to ask ourselves is it really truth or good? Is it what we want done to see people like this? Yes. Being picked up and facing deportation. Yes. What's the next question? Do we want that being done in our name? Yes, my name is Robert. My position has been that it's a mistake.

56:35I've heard so high, I've heard so high economically. Obviously, he heard so individuals involved not in the best interest of our country. At this time, there is no official corner's report ruling Bell's death a suicide. Pastor Ruby says they are working on funeral arrangements. A spokesperson with the Department of Homeland Security said, I put the ankle monitor on Bell on July 29 calling him and I'm quoting here, non-detained illegal alien. That spokesperson went on to say quote, no one is required to stay. In the United States, illegally and wear a monitor remaining in the country, illegally well fighting removal is a choice. Leaving with a free flight home and $2,600 is also a choice. ICE will continue to use detention or alternatives to detention as needed for those illegal aliens who stay in violation of the law. Give me a hell yeah.

57:36Exactly. Yes. Nice statement from ICE. Hey, you don't have to stay here with the ankle bracelet. His parents are very upset because they can't take him back to Haiti. Not these. But yes, you can. We'll even pay for it. All you first class, well, I mean not first class, but some kind of class. Where's his dad? In jail? No. Oh, where? No, why is there a pastor reading a statement from him and not him? Oh, you probably can't speak English. Hmm. Oh, I think I speak English in Haiti. Um, I don't maybe his tribe didn't. I don't know, but there's some details missing from this report that I found in another report. So we can listen to those here. Like they paint this beautiful picture. I'm like, it's tragic. The kid jumps. I can't get some mental issues apparently. And nobody was paying attention to it. That's why I feel I mean, I don't know what else.

58:37Why else you pull off on the side of the road, jump out of the car, corner the driver. He like pulled over, open the door and ran right into the street into the freeway right in front of the guy. Now, imagine that dude. Imagine how that dude's life's changed. I mean, that dude just, I mean, he just killed somebody. So they paint this picture of this beautiful kid who's just trying to go to college and he's raising America. Oh, my gosh. He was in the ROTC junior ROTC program. How does it, how does an illegal alien temporary protective status join the ROTC? That's like junior mill. That's like pre pre army or whatever. Hmm. Okay. So he was going to med school or he was going to school. I don't know what for. I am mad neuroscience. Okay. Yeah. Where, where is parents? Because the pictures I'm seeing is not of some destitute kid who can barely afford to

59:40eat. He's got bling on. He's got all, I mean, he's dressed to the nines and he's going to a nice school. I mean, he's going to college. Where are his parents? That they leave out these, so their paint this picture of this kid who just came here to get a good life. And oh, my gosh, he's been here and he's working towards a community and stuff like that except there's some details missing. Ah. Oh, that's fitting. A department of Homeland Security spokesperson confirmed a new center seven Tuesday, Bell was a non detained illegal alien from Haiti and said in March 2024, Bell applied for admission into the states at a customs and border protection port of entry in Brownsville, Texas and was released into the US. Then at the end of July, that spokesperson said US immigration and customs enforcement or ICE placed Bell on the alternatives to detention program with an ankle monitor while he continued his immigration proceedings. According to ICE's website, its alternatives to detention or ATD program enables aliens to remain in their communities, contributing to their families and community organizations

1:00:45and as appropriate, concluding their affairs in the US as they move through immigration proceedings or prepare for departure. He came here less than two years ago. 24. So, by himself. Okay. Um, they identify as father as Pierre, uh, Ronald Bell, I think it's Bell or B.E.L. He's 40. Some stories spell it. Whatever. He wrote a statement. They have to noon blah, blah, blah, read by the pastor. But it doesn't say when he came in the country. He was here already though is what we're getting at, I think. They have no published story finding his mother's name. And are we investigating his father? So, he, him, his mom and his dad come here and then some years later, they send their

1:01:46kid over to. So, he came, he came across the border illegally. Right. Uh, uh, or, uh, claim to asylum. And the Biden administration released them into the world and he ends up in Springfield. They're a little bit different than what the story is. Oh, he's just his kid that's been living in Springfield his whole life. Came here to get a new start. I mean, Haiti, he came here for the earthquake that was 15 years ago and he waited like 10 years and then came to the United States after like, no, this is not this kid gone. Yes. Yes, Mike. In my name, get him out. And where's his family? Let's arrest them and get them the hell out of here too, because you've even done that in the first place. The kid would have been alive. You know, it's funny. None of that. It's saying anything, anything about his parents. No. Whereas are they here legally green card holders or?

1:02:47Well, okay. Are they a TPS holders or green card holders? No, they're not, uh, it's saying any if they were here legally, they wouldn't need the kid wouldn't need to stink across the border. I would think they'd be able to bring him here in some form, depending on their legal. I mean, if they, if they were just TPS, maybe not, but if they had a green card, I think there's all green card. I think you're a lot to it. You know, well, then again, I don't know because he was 20 years old. Oh, yeah. So I can only assume because of lack of information and the evidence I have in front of me, you know, one of the evidence, one of the pieces of advances, they won't stick their face in front of the camera. Like I get it. Your kid just got to understand there's some, may there is a, you know, part of that will some parents just won't do that. But in this case, I don't know, seems fishy to me. But I, you know, they may want to go back to Haiti because they may end up there soon anyway. So that's, that's the heart wrenching story that they're going with now for Springfield.

1:03:50That's going to, I guarantee you that's going to show up in the election in some way as far as the government is real. Yeah, maybe, but Amy's broke with her party. What? Oh, yeah, it's some of that stuff. Yeah. Mm-hmm. She has to. It's so high. Until she gets elected and then she just changes her mind. Yeah, that's, she's done that with the trans community or the LGBT Q plus whatever. There are none too happy with her. No, they're not. Uh, so there's, there's what's going on. That's what's going on in Springfield. They, at ICE is there, they are slowly cleaning out the place and it's going to be, it's going to be messy because it's been messy everywhere they go. They're not going to help from locals except, you know, any pun on last. I'm going to who raised that kid? His parents are pretty young. I just, I found a picture. He's 40. He says 40. Yeah. Yes, it says, according to, I was just, yeah, TPS here and his parents and a younger sibling

1:04:50had been TPS holders. This is family status, not a detailed, er, biography. Oh, thanks for the clarification. Yeah. I had Jamie on and he couldn't find anything. Really? So right now it shows a, only, they were only focused on him with the ankle monitor. It doesn't really, I mean, it doesn't mean that he didn't, but there's not a lot of report reporting on what's going on with the family. Uh-huh. Fricking horrible story, but it's like, dude, but yes, just to answer Mr. Governor Dwayne, yep, yep. I'm thinking of the meme of Homer with the, yes, this is what I voted for. Sorry, I mean, again, sorry, but it, yeah, it's tragic, but it's tragic. And I'm going to pull my heart string on this. No. No. I mean, I guess, but I guess the solution would have been no ankle monitor, just put him on

1:05:54a plane. There would have been right thing for him to do with the game. If he was so distrust about this, I don't, I still don't think it's a suicide. Yeah. Mental, mental break. Well, yeah, that would, yes, that would go behind it. Yeah, but I don't know if you, if you knew what he was doing, that's what I was saying. You know, okay. I mean, it's a weird way to go if you love your parents. It is, but I, when, when you're talking about this kind of thing, when you're talking about suicide, I don't know if there's a, like, not weird way. You know what I mean? Well, you're pretty messed up in the head. So, no, no, I understand that. But like, I guess do you want an open casket or do you want a close casket? You could easily twist it into saying, I'm going to get rid of this problem for my parents because I love my parents. I'm a problem, you know, that kind of stuff. It's horrible, horrible. Yeah. You know, okay. I'm not, I'm just saying, I don't know what else it could be. Just an idiot got it to say the take of jog on the freeway is possible.

1:06:56The chance is not zero is what I'm saying. The chance is not zero. Maybe he saw a cat on the other side of the highway. Wow, that I went there. Jesus. Again, chance is not zero. All right. Next, we're going to move to what do we have here? Oh, yeah. The wine is, well, there's a lot of pass for drone. Drone rules, I guess you're going to call it. And the Ohio State legislature put some guidelines in for law enforcement on drones, I think generally is needed because what they were going off of was like the, there's a statue somewhere in a law about, you know, man, man, flown planes where you have to have certain warrants this and that. And they finally put this into, they passed it. The wine is not signed as of, I forgot to play the credit corner thing. He made it.

1:07:57Wait, what? Oh, man, why was you know, I was going to ask you after what happened last week. We won around, let them all out. Yeah. Brave. Where we at here? There it is. Come on out, guys. Go around. Around. What's going on? Creepy. Thank you for reminding me of forgot credit corner. We got open it up for a couple of a couple of stories here. So again, Dwein, I, you know, corner this, this is June 22nd. So I think he did sign this into law. But according to this, this is a couple of weeks old, more than two months old, from the state house bureau kind of goes over some of the details, some of the critics of the law. And I think generally it's a good thing, but there may be some loopholes in it. We probably want to take care of. So here we go. This is state house news bureau. One of the bills now awaiting governor, Mike DeWine's signature passed overwhelmingly in the legislature. And it establishes rules for how and when police agencies can use drones.

1:09:02Some Democrats, like representative Sean Brennan, voted for it, saying the rules for use of drones by police is needed. We have an issue in our state right now where we've got a lot of new 21st century technology, but no clear guidelines on how to use it. But a group that often sides with Democrats is against it. The ACLU of Ohio's Gary Daniels is urging DeWine to veto the bill. In this case, there's obvious first amendment implications. Daniel says the bill gives the government more leeway than average citizens. And he worries the data generated by the government's use of drones could violate individual's privacy. Joe Engels at the Ohio Public Radio State House News Bureau. I'm just going to check and make sure. Yes, he did sign it signed the bill on July 7th. Some of the critics are basically saying there is so it kind of caps the.

1:10:05What's walls up for the police? They need can't be peering zooming into people's houses about warrants is that the other thing. But they're saying it may. There's some provision that says. Requires a private drone user to get permission from the people being surveilled. Could also be problematic possibly affecting the ability of media outlets to get crowd shots at social or local events. So there is again, when you as always a cost benefit analysis to every law, I guess. And this one they're saying is they need to fix this loophole saying, you know, if if you're media organization put about drone, you got to get signed permission from everybody at the at the show, where the counter the protest, whatever. That seems a bit weird. But it should be covered under it because I think it's like if you if the cameras in public view, you don't need to. Yeah, I don't know how that is that public view. 100 feet above you. Well, you're in public view. Well, if I'm on the third third story of a building and I'm looking down here in public view and I take a photo.

1:11:09Right, but if you're concealing a camera and filming people in public is different than if you had it on like in your hand. Like they have to be able to know that your recording is kind of the law. I would imagine you're used to suspect the recording. Right. But that's the question. That that constitute as being in public or. Same kind of thing. So that's kind of the. Adjust of it. There putting some guide writing guide rail guard rails or guidelines in for for law enforcement so that they can. You know, they need warrants to do certain things though. Instead of. You know, they just need to update the law. Probably needs to be updated again as we as it probably gets into play and gets it applied. I'm sure there's going to be some issues with it. We could. We're tweaking so many of these laws. Yeah, the flock cameras and the drones and all that stuff. Yeah, there's there's I was going to bring it up probably next week is that there's a movement coming across a flock cameras. Well, Ohio needs to be like Florida. I believe Columbus has.

1:12:11Yes, I did see that, but that's. I didn't even look into it. So probably bring up next week after. Okay. I think it's good. We'll see what. See what comes up it. Next is. Oh, yes, next is where did I go? Oh, there we go. Yeah, Ohio public universities are eliminating nearly 90 degree programs. Because of SB one. So this is an SB one update basically. And if you don't remember SB one was SB one was end of last year, maybe. Yeah, beginning this year, something like that. It was SB one was DEI and universities getting it out. Not allowing universities to have. You know. You're not allowed to have a safe DEI play. You know, I have a building for state funny university that is excludes anybody basically.

1:13:11Yeah, but aren't they just renamed. Yeah, they basically just renamed it. That's that was a DEI portion. That's something they're tackling. It's it's made an impact. But with some of the hidden camera stuff that we've seen, you know, they're just renaming it or just doing it under the radar. Yeah, there's really no way there's nobody enforcing it. But this the other part of SB one was they had put in a stipulation to public if funded colleges. That if you have, I think it was less than less than five degrees. Howcauges and universities are required to cut any undergrad degree programs that produce an average. Less than five degrees annually over a three year period. Oh, that's right. I forgot about that. Yeah. That said, we'll also bands diversity efforts. Regulates classroom discussion prohibits faculty strikes and creates post tenure review. Diversity scholarships at risk. And creates a provision of blocks unions from negotiating tenure.

1:14:14Okay, so the whole point of this article is. Universities cut some undergrad programs and there are a couple of things. There's a couple of programs or classes that keep popping up and few courses. See if you can pick them up. Maybe so bowling green was, I think one of the fewer ones. They cut six programs. And you know, think, you know, these most valuable degrees like associate is associate of applied science in human service. Bachelor of arts in geography. His bachelor of musical composition. Okay, that's probably one that somebody might use, but does every college need to have it? That's there was a couple of those bachelor of science and physics. So you had in five years, you had less than five people a year on average. Get a degree in bachelor of science and physics. Well, I would think you don't go to bowling green for that degree. Right.

1:15:14So Kent State had eliminated the most programs with 19. One of them was the bachelor of arts in Africana studies, not African studies, but Africana studies. Here's the difference. Bachelor of arts in chemistry. Bachelor of arts in classics. Oh, Bachelor of arts in fine dance. Okay. What's a bachelor of arts in physics or chemistry or what? Bachelor of arts in earth science. Let's see. Okay. Then bachelor of arts and mathematics. Let's say I don't know what are you. I mean, I don't know. See, Ohio University eliminated 16 programs. I mean, there's another one. Bachelor of arts in African American studies. That's for arts in chemistry. Bachelor of arts in dance. Bachelor of arts in French. Those are all in the last one. I mean, they had Africana.

1:16:15I'm assuming Bachelor of Arts in African American studies is very similar. Oh, associate of applied science in aviation flight technology. Bachelor of arts in physics in bachelor of, Bachelor of music in, Bachelor of music in music therapy. Okay. Well, how state university eight programs? Bachelor of arts in music theory. Associate of science in biochem sciences. She's a Shawnee state was another one. They did eight programs for, no, four limited programs and there'll be more in August. University of Toledo. There we go. Bachelor of arts in Africana studies. Apparently studying a Bachelor of Arts in anything African is not popular. But also Bachelor of Arts in Asian studies. So at least they're, they're cutting it across the board.

1:17:17Because, hmm, Bachelor of Arts in Middle Eastern studies. All those things with Bachelor of Arts is kind of like, like Bachelor of Arts in mathematics. Bachelor of Arts in physics. Almost all Bachelor of Arts in, it's sort of like, I just want to have the word physics in my degree. But I really don't want to learn about physics. I'd like to look into this because I'm not sure. It also seems it could be, if you want a science degree, you have to take this course too. You have to pay for these credits. No, no, no, no. If you get a Bachelor of Arts in like physics, basically you are, you're learning a few of the things about physics, but wrapping it up with a bunch of arts programs. Whereas if you get a Bachelor of Science in physics, it's a way heavier STEM track. More Catholic. Well, it is a STEM track. It is an actual STEM track, probably. Oh, Bachelor of Arts in Women and Gender Studies. Oh.

1:18:17Well, she's a very sorry. Bachelor of Science in Education in Wellness Studies. So, I mean, I don't think we're missing out on a much people. Yeah. So, none of these had more than five graduates over a three year period. And those, we could find all those graduates in their parent's basement. Working at Starbucks. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. So, it's working. At least that part of it's working. Yeah, I kind of like that. Because who's, how many teachers did they have to let go, if any? Well, it's probably like one teaching ten of those things. Yeah, it could be. But here's the, this is good because, you know, how we, over the last 20, 30 years, they've been telling kids they have to go to a college. And now this is going to kind of make those kids that didn't want to go to the college. Now they don't have to. They can just go get a real world job.

1:19:17Or if they go to college, at least they'll, they can pick a job. Yeah, but you're assuming that anybody who wants a Bachelor of Arts in Africana studies is going to get a job anywhere. No, that's what I'm saying. Well, yeah, yeah. A real job, I guess, is what at my point was like they're not, they're obviously not looking for a real job. Okay, I've got a college parents. I don't know. I mean, they're, they're probably going to get a job at Starbucks because if they're trying to get a bachelor's as an arts of Africana or a Bachelor of Arts in, in classics, what do I hope that is? They're probably not really worried too much about working. Because no, no, they're trying to live in their parents' house. Yeah, yes, yes, true. True. But they can still do that working at Starbucks. But their parents are telling me, yeah, if you don't go to college, you have to move out. Yes, yes. I'll go to college. Yes, I'll just stay in college. Oh, I knew a few people like that. Yes, of course. We all do. Six years in college. Yeah, six, seven, eight. I got three degrees. Oh, okay. Okay.

1:20:17Yeah. Bachelor of Arts in film the blank. SB1's working perfectly, at least for that part. I don't know about the rest of it. That one's working perfectly. All right. So that's basically wraps, oh, we got, oh, hold on. It doesn't wrap everything up because we, of course, we have. We bring good things to the side. Wrap it up. It's a good stuff. Something for you to do. Something for you to do. We have, first on the list on the show, not quick or river cast. .com. Check out the blog. We have the Waterloo Arts Fest. You've been to this one. I don't know if I've never been to that. I saw that. That looked really interesting. Yeah. I like that area. Yeah. Gonna have 90 plus local shops, local maker booths, us 10 fine art galleries, eight festival stages with 40 plus local bands, and creative stations for people of all ages to engage with. I did a little arts festival.

1:21:18And the date is September 12th Saturday, September 12th, noon to seven. And it is Waterloo Arts Fest takes place in the artistically vibrant Waterloo Arts and Entertainment District in the lakeside neighborhood of Collinwood in Cleveland, Ohio. Over the last, over the past 24 years, the festival has grown, but it has always remained grounded in community and fresh local art. Go check it out. I mean, it looks good. Probably some good food there. Definitely probably some good music. Sure. I mean, they got 40 bands. You've got to be a couple that are halfway decent. 40 bands. Oh, that's cool. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's $10 a suggestion. Donation helps support the festival. Cool. It says, get your tickets today, but I think they're just asking for donations. Yeah. Next is another one, another little festival called the Vigilage Peddler.

1:22:19Have you ever been to that? I want to say we did. Did we? I've been to that. Yeah. Once. So it is a, since 1982, the Vigilage Peddler Festival has been a staple, or at the East Ohio, offering a charming fall marketplace. Over 100 certified vendors alongside live music, vibrant community spirit. Where? It is. I thought you read it. Oh, it is. Lake Metro Park Farms. It is a, they have a working farm and education center on 235 acres. And it is held in conjunction with Lake Metro Park Farms Park. So. And. Lake Metro Park. Yeah. That's all day. September. I was looking for the homepage. I was on the about page. I think they do it for three weekends in September, right? It is September 12 through the 13th. I know it is just one weekend. It looks like Saturday, 10 to 6 and Sunday, 10 to 5.

1:23:20Oh, you heard it. Lake Metro Park Farms Park is 88. 100. You could. I think you could start in a road in Kirtland. It is in Kirtland. That's one. Yeah. I thought they used to do it in for three weekends in a row. Yeah. I could be wrong. There's a lot of festivals. Yeah. I pretty sure I went to this one. It was, I think you could actually buy a full size turkey leg and just carry it around. You didn't like that. Yeah. America. Good. Good times. So that's it. Go check out some of those things to do for next weekend and the following weekend. I hope everybody listening to this on Labor Day has the day off at least. I mean, come on. It's Labor Day. It's the day off. If you work for a company that's open on Labor Day, find another company. But we really appreciate you listening. If you've gone all this way, good Lord help you. But thank you. Thank you very much for listening to the show. Check out quickerrivorcast.com for the blog.

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