COWBOYS DRAFT CALEB DOWNS & MALACHI LAWRENCE!!! | Crown Global Media Instant Reactions

0:00What a glorious night. One of the best nights that we've had in recent memory when it comes to Adalus cowboys draft night one party Welcome on in to crown global media. It is our recap draft night one in the first round cowboys with a pair of first round picks Who would have thunk it? They moved up and they moved down in this one the possibilities were endless I can't wait to chop it all up with you. Thank you so much like subscribe and for jumping in here to the YouTube Zach Wollchuk, Aisha Morrison, Chris Crutchman joining us as well. He makes you follow his page on the TikToks cowboys beat and of course the godfather The man the myth the legend in the bow tie the great Brian Brottis team. I couldn't be happier right now Caleb Downs no matter what he was the man number one on my board number one on Brian's board. Aisha. Where do you have him? Number one consensus the best player in the draft goes to the Dallas cowboys at pick 11 They circle back they trade back from 20 to 23. They pick up two fours

1:03They had to move up from 12 to 11 gave up two fives to do so just to ensure you got Caleb Downs And I like it up overall. I mean you were cooking the night you get downs you get Malachi Lawrence you flip two fives You end up making it two fours Incredible night. Make sure you're getting your questions in the superchats. We got you a Chris's monitoring that right now Overall, who saw how we feeling? You feel good about this one dog. I'm ecstatic and I I'm ecstatic because we talked about this here and Savedies are getting love. Yeah cowboys are given the safety position love and it's you we were talking about it before you can't we came on Brian Is that Brian was saying like I'm surprised that this guy felt and everyone is saying that but it's like No, I got weak. I kind of expect it just because It feels like it doesn't matter if he this is the best player in the draft. He's a safety and these teams feel that way Yeah, I was you know, it was first off

2:04You know, I give the cowboys a lot of credit For the way that you just walked us through how they were able to navigate the the the trade-ups the trade-backs and stuff like that There was a lot of platforms that were on here at Crown Global Media talking about the shows Whether it's a doing all right or the stack You know would Dallas be patient and just sit there and I want to you know if you want to talk about the key moment for me In this draft It's really the favor that Cleveland did for you The Cleveland pick when Cleveland took For no the offensive tackle From Utah That opened the Giants up to take Malanoah. I think if it I don't I don't if if if Malanoah is not on that Board I don't know if the Giants I wonder if they take downs and I'll find out from my from my Giants guy But but the way the cowboys were able to navigate it be able to you know, have a plan and like they knew what they wanted and as the board was starting to fall

3:15You know some of their way It became really you you could see there were some tense moments in that in that draft room Yeah, you know just because you and I've lived this where you're sweating out We did it with the market spears man in 2005 and you're sweating out these picks But man the the draft gods were smiling on them just for some of the ways some of the players Fell but the execution was very good on their part tonight and we knew going in you know We had kind of heard the whispers for the cowboys looking to move up to nine With Kansas City and then those are two front offices that are very connected heck their neighbors living there In Dallas so when Kansas City makes the move with Cleveland in the post draft presser. They acknowledged hey We did talk with Cleveland but the price was going to be too high expensive to speak which I understand so hold your water there I love just ensuring to to give up the two five just to move up a pick and Injury acknowledged that you knew that Miami wasn't going to take yeah Caleb downs

4:18But anybody else all they got to do is say he'll flip you a three to move up and go get him I think you're absolutely right about Cleveland there. It would have been fascinating I'm sure you know they mentioned one other player that they had earmarked as would have been Worthy of going up for I wonder was it our vellrice maybe at five with the giants could have been sunny styles Who ended up going seven to Washington But to come away with with what they did to go up and get who we all think is the best player in the class In Caleb downs who is just an alpha. I mean for all of us. I think going into it We've talked about how good he is and and they echoed some of the same sentiments in the post draft presser This is a kid walks on the campus at Tuscaloosa, Alabama and he is the absolute alpha dog in a team full of alphas I mean Nick Sabin you've brought this up plenty of times Brian. His forte's background is secondary He was yeah, that's what he does he when he was Alabama He coached the same even though he was the head coach You could go to an Alabama football practice and Nick Sabin is drilling The the players there, you know, and the you know secondary coach is kind of watching coach Sabin do all the work

5:23This kid this kid welcome the challenge of going and playing for one of the best Uh, you know secondary coaches in the country. Yeah And then he goes to Ohio State wins a national championship best player on a defense that's had How many first rounders over the last two years? I mean to have him fall into your lap the way that it happened and we were thinking maybe it's delaying You know as the is the player they're going to move up for instead Kansas City ends up scooping up Montsortal Lane from LSU But Caleb downs ends up being the guy that falls into the Cowboys lap It feels a big need in the understanding is he's going to probably play nickel He'll be your slot cornerback he'll play safety when they're in base But whenever they're in that sub package he's going to start for you in the nickel I mean, I you should it was like we're to me. It was like walking through heaven for a second Getting Caleb downs tonight. I mean they he's to me. He's just been he's been the apple of my eye the entire class I just didn't know realistically what he get there. I think you're right I think we saw like the safeties are coming back But at the end of the day the positional value stuff you still saw you run an offensive tackles

6:26Yeah, we still saw two quarterbacks go in the top 13 And that was something you had brought up me two wide receivers still going the top 10 heck carnell paint went for overall at Tennessee and to to that point was Brian was saying earlier like what shifted for him is Is the the Malanoa pick and stuff like that? It was the tape pick. I thought sure like when when tape went there I was like what's going on here? You know like what what's going on in the bro as you talked about how Dallas came in here They're leaving with more picks than what they came in with you get it into the fourth And then also too if I'm not mistaken those fits that they used to move up those were are those comp picks There is yeah, I need to check on the numbers of them. Yeah, what a savvy way to use your comp pick right that a lot of people discount Sometimes and maybe in this class, you don't feel like they're as valuable So you decide to give them away. I just I agree with you Brian. I do feel like The the thing that I liked about Dallas with both of these picks is that it feels like they knew Who the heck they want it and they went after it. Yep. It was it was the two comp picks 177 and

7:29What an awesome way to utilize your comp picks. I just think this was strategic to your point Brian and It's one of the better strategic feels like one of the better strategic first nights we've seen in a while Yeah, you know you get you could be a little clumsy and a little clunky Doing some of those things, but you know Say Dallas they had an idea you could tell by the reaction that they had in the in the draft room When they realized that Caleb Downs was going to be a Dallas cowboy I mean you could see the emotion and the elation that they had as a as a as a as a as a group You know for this type of player there's so many things and this is this goes back to to with Christian Parker You know, and we're trying to learn about Christian Parker. We're trying to learn. Okay The style of player the type of player, you know and and and and and we can even talk about with with With Malachi Lawrence that pick too Dallas did not have somebody that was effective Russian Apache

8:34We'll see we'll see could the learning curve be steep We we kind of felt like that did Donovan as a rock who last year maybe the learning curve wasn't steep But it it really really was so but Malachi Lawrence has got the kind of ability You know as a pass rusher. So I think if you look overall You know the way you try and help the defense what they did and the off-season spin in some money Going out and getting some players You know fortifying some positions making some trades But then also though this draft is going to be a way to kind of get things done And hopefully Christian Parker lives up to the billing Yeah, you know, hopefully that's that's where he is able to Be to have a vision for these players though and make sure that these guys are successful what they do Yeah, and I do want to talk Malachi Lawrence and make sure you're getting your your questions And Chris is going to run through those for us here and just a second But when you look at what the cowboys are able to do and they're back on the clock at 20 Yeah, and it's the it's the interdivision trade and we had just talked about that last week right and it was

9:35Adam Peters in Washington But this is now you go back to Philadelphia and Dallas. They make that trade in the Micah Parsons draft Where Philly moves up to take Devonte Smith. Dallas moves back to spots cowboys on the clock at 20 Wilma Clay said probably we're going to stay there and take Malachi Lawrence at 20 anyway All right, we'll move back to 23 you get back those two fourth rounders Which are now really valuable picks for you Heading into day three and maybe you could even use that if there's a player that you want to move up for tomorrow But you end up landing Malachi Lawrence who I wish I know you know that I loved we talked about him on the stack early on in the process But I mean it fits what it fits everything that they had lacked you know who was going to rush the patch That's a question that you can ask in the entire offseason Brian. Yeah, that's your twitchy guy That's your guy that has the first step that is a plan that is multiple ways to beat you that I think is a better Undefender than people gave him credit for he was the only player in college football one of four players I should see that I should say that had five or more sacks each of the last three years

10:37Consistent the productions there 11 tackles for loss this past season He's a player that is a difference maker that gets into the backfield and to me He clearly lacks an area that they and hopefully Donovan Ezoraku can step up But they didn't have enough of those guys that had that speed off the edge Malachi Lawrence brings that and to get him at 23 By sliding back But also adding two fours when you gave up two fives was a masterful way to work the draft tonight by Dallas I think his frame obviously fits what you are looking for schematically as well as you talk about him defending the run I agree with you. I think people be taking it too far. They be pressing it But I do think he should fill out a little bit more And get a little bit better with consistently said in the edge and doing things like that But he has they know how the interesting thing about these two picks to me is as you've listened to Christian Parker talk about like as you're saying Learning him as we listen to him one of the first things they've talked about was the brain work side of things like they want guys who minds work You know very sharply their intelligent things like that, but he did say

11:38Don't get it twisted. We need talent. Yeah, we need guys that and we look at a Malachi Lawrence There is it's so weird because he has all this this toolbox But he's raw kind of and there's times if you watch him you feel like he's winning off of Instinct a lot as well. So I feel like we got to see in this first round Kind of a mixture of what a Christian Parker envisions. They want to develop this kid They're sure about him. They see the trace. They see the talent the production But then you have a K live downs who's just super heady super it's gonna be a field general This kid is gonna be developing developing, but I like that they went after traits And I know a lot of time we don't like that But I'd like that they were like he's talented then when you look at him in competition to the other past pressures in this class He is pure purely a past pressure. Let's go get him. I am I am thrilled by having this guy on a team And I think that he also added to wise is such a good fit. Yes He is a temperature setter as well on that defensive line Malachi Lawrence

12:39100% couldn't agree with you more and in a key mezzador the edge from Miami going to pick a head of Dallas With the charger. So I think they had even mentioned hey could we move back some more pick some more picks up But at that point I had Malachi Lawrence is the best edge left on my board I'm assuming they did as well and a key mezzador you had told us brine was not an option for them anyway As soon as he goes you probably think all right, we got a staker and we just got a pick our guy Yeah, that's what you know, I think Dallas was comfortable even going further back Maybe they weren't comfortable taking Lawrence at 20 But they you know the whispers were starting to say well if you think about Lawrence think about him at you know 26 think about him is 28 But to your point Zach about when when mezzador goes You're like damn. Let's not lose our guy. Yeah, let's not lose it here And the fact that you have you know, this is I think five of the last six drafts where Howie Roseman has traded up into the in the first round You know, you found you a partner You know, and they and they got you know, they got a really nice player in lemon

13:43But you get to feel like that you got the right guy, you know with with with what you did. Yeah, what a perfect I know as soon as I see him go to Philly y'all was like Yeah, that's a feeling day. Well, we all we all kind of we all kind of had him earmarked for The Rams. Yeah, and then the Rams with you know with the surprise and listen It's funny with the Rams And just just a thought They're one of those teams that my my guy there less need f them picks Less doesn't care and the head coach and More times and not that team is right about Who they draft or who they sign. Yeah, they've done a good job. They have a good understanding So you know when you really want to when you want to scratch your head and say Really Simpson and that at that pick Then you realize who took him? The Rams what a good and then you go Okay, this kid is going to be an all pro probably I kind of think I loved seeing I actually thought it was a fantastic

14:48And in a in a league right now where guys are not getting the opportunity to Develop and sit behind a veteran quarterback. What an awesome place That's what stood out to me at the Rams joint practices being able to go through it For training camp is feeling how well coach that oh gosh Yeah, they are the cream of the crop when it comes to Coaching and development and those things. So when I saw him get drafted there you playing behind staffer You're in a shaman-based system. That is going to make things simple for you And these people give a damn about development. It's a fantastic spot for him to develop. All right We do want to hear from you so make sure if you're in the YouTube We we're going to answer your questions the super chat ones will obviously get the priority We appreciate you tap in thank you so much like subscribe share the link we love you so much for being a part of this Here at Crown Global Media Chris. What do we have so far? So there was a super chat from mo cow two four six He says another defensive and named Lawrence drafted to the cowboys not only that you traded back with Philly

15:52Just like you did the last time you got a really good pass russia There's two things that are going really well for you there. So thank you for your super chat We got one from Jake leaf 1740 is 20-hour super chat 60 picks is a lot to wait and watch on day two Do you think the cowboys will utilize the new draft capital to make moves for a certain prior position? Love you guys great work. Thank you. I think it Know they're saying we've already seen some reports that they're saying that they're reluctant to do that but I'm wondering if there is a linebacker or somebody there But it sounds like they also have a contingency plan in place so they don't maybe they don't feel like they have to force it How do you feel if you were if you were to say if you were to use the capital To go get a position Is there a position you have in mind and I understand because trust me I've been in that room Where you sit there and you have about three turkey sandwiches and a couple of diet Pepsi's and you're like going

16:55Gosh, this is never gonna end, you know, and and we've known jury Jones in the past who want to be aggressive to try And maybe there's a player that they have in mind, but I'm gonna ask you guys this is there a position That you kind of feel like you know, we've talked We've talked about the linebackers. Yeah, and I and I feel like me. I look at hill from Texas I've still got all those little pockets of Players I still got the pocket of of the hill and the Alan And the and I can say is that linebacker group I personally I personally would think that if you want to go maybe one of those guys maybe one of those guys makes sense for you You know the the the secondary I think it's kind of taking care of Wide receiver, you know, we've kind of getting the idea that George Pickens not gonna be traded Gonna come in play on the tag and all that Is there another wide receiver you add you add a running back?

17:56Is there a position you guys are thinking about if if you could use the capital would go Back into the round Do you have one in mind? I think it is linebacker, you know, I think linebacker is still your biggest glaring weakness now You're a hundred percent right You do you you've got, you know, CJ Allen how do they feel about him? We started hearing again today That came back up as a possibility. I don't know if they ended up would would have taken him there at the bottom of the first round You know with Malachi Lawrence clearly was a player that they'd earmarked But let's say they had to move back and done that deal with Kansas City With CJ Allen from Georgia a player that they would have considered at 29 much like coach brim Who's on staff and was at UCF they've got a coach on staff who was there at Georgia? So there's that connection. I do believe there's love for Jacob Rodriguez But Brian as you've heard and I have I think that's a third round grade for them now Does that mean that they wouldn't move up and take him in round two? You know, I'm not sure where they've got Anthony Hill Jr from Texas. Josiah Trotter from Mizzou. You mentioned Jake Golday

18:59I think there could be more interest in Golday than even we've talked about they talk about playing multiple So these guys like there's going to be a run on these linebackers if it happens is that when all of a sudden now It's let's go do this because I do think the contingency plan you brought up Aisha I want to say it's Jordan Brooks at the dolphins line. I do too. Or is it the gentleman from the Giants? Oh cave on tibado Bobby O'Carricka. Yeah, the free agent. Yeah, I mean, he's Al Shea here with Houston Yeah, it was a name we had heard as well. Those would be two guys. They got a trade for a carer. Okay, they could sign Yeah, I'm only asking just because The way that they have handled this linebacker situation has had a I know has had me up a place Yeah, and they've been very they've been very calm about it, which is why I am It will tell us a lot tomorrow. Right. Yeah, I think we'll find out very early if there is a run and they just like There be I yeah, then Then I think we should be wondering what the contingency plan is but I don't want them to force it right and it you know

20:03Because even out of those guys that you named I think that Trotter's recognition instinct is a fantastic one of the best run stoppers in this class I mean, I think Anthony Hill junior has untapped A potential but like I don't want them to like force it and with the fact that we know now that The Mike might not be The linebacker, right? I'm a little less stressed about it because that was my biggest thing To run this defense that is gonna be complex. I was like dog like how do we not have a veteran on the mic But when we found out we might have the ring dot. Yeah, yeah, the good dog Mike That was a question that shotty addressed and and I think it was clear until asked him would downs be your green dot He said it's probably still gonna be one of the linebackers. Yeah, okay, so it is so okay, so now we're talking about this is where again I asked me yeah, I asked something no Well asked me in the or in the in the front office that you know, well matter of fact, I'll tell you I asked Wilma Clay Thank you. I asked Wilma Clay. I said will does this Does this mean that you know is does the green dot guy necessarily have to be a linebacker?

21:06He said no, so the safety aspect. I just like I've just trying to kind of feel Do I need do I need to get back in the round If I've got pockets of players Do I need to do I'm trying to make a determination sit there and look at my board right now I'm thinking man. I've got plenty of edges. I've got plenty of linebackers. I got plenty of safeties A lot of getting out of still a lot of corners about to go crazy So I wonder if this Dallas is Dallas have to go do that. Mm-hmm. Or do you just wait Keep the draft capital and then yeah, I know 60 picks is a long time to wait But if I've got pockets of players I might just sit there and wait it out. What else we got Chris? Yeah, so we have Jay Brab Bra I probably said that uh and correctly Uh he commented on his own super chat saying love all the work you folks do met BB in 2018 at the star

22:06And he talked ball with me for a good five to ten minutes y'all are the best so we really appreciate that Next one coming in we have from oh already read that one um Beyond happy this is from swore Two-hour super chat beyond happy but Reese With the Giants could be hard. What do you guys think about Reese going to the games? I thought the Giants cleaned up tonight. I mean it states sucks, right? But the Giants ended up getting my third overall player in our Bell Reese at five then my fifth overall player in Frances Malano at 10 So I mean, I think and I made this comment Brian, you know during our broadcast where When you think of the Giants when they've been great in competing for Super Bowls They've got a tremendous front and they win with their past Russian defensive line You now at our bell Reese to Abdul Carter and Brian Burns and I don't believe them when they say They're not going to trade cave on tibito. I think if they got not for they would because now they've gotten abundance of edge rushers And what are you going to do with all those guys? But you've got now a rotation of dogs that can go after the quarterback and who knows maybe our bell Reese

23:09They view as a guy they could will place them off all on back this year Yeah, I kind of feel like going into this draft Today when the commissioner walked up and opened the draft I don't think the New York Giants New York football Giants thought that they were going to get our bell Reese Well, I don't think so. I think that I think that Arville Reese All of a sudden with the way the the draft gods were clearly smiling on them too That you know, they all was the names they were talking about they were talking The the Arizona one was the pick with love when you talk to people in Arizona They were like man. We're talking about offensive linemen. We're talking about lineback. We're talking about it We're talking about defensive linemen. They were talking about everything love was a mention And it was really a little bit shocking that they didn't have a deal with somebody that they went ahead and took the pick But I kind of feel like that the the Giants sat there and they're like Arville Reese is on the board. We're picking. We're not going to pass on them

24:11They they yeah, it was it was clear that all the other players were Were just after thoughts. I think that the Giants Went into this draft. They could we're not going to take him. He's not going to be there And lo and behold though when they you know in this third turn to pick The way the board fell they got their guy Oh shocked Yeah, I was too. I was wondering. I thought to myself like if he gets to five Yeah, somebody do something like somebody yeah I wondered if Dallas was kind of thinking okay Can we make a because there had been some some rumors of the Cowboys and the Giants talking about five And I assume it would be Arville Reese. It's a guy that can fill both big needs They have it linebacker and edge spending on how they want to use them. What else Chris? So we have a 499 super chat from George Hernandez in 9155 Kind of already answered a question like this But did y'all catch the front office saying that the green dot guy is a linebacker? Yeah, and so in and so shot He did say like in terms of the secondary you know Caleb Downs is very capable of trying to get everybody lined up there

25:11But he did say most likely the green dot guy would still be a linebacker So and if they traded for a Jordan Brooks at Miami He said he didn't really love that responsibility So I mean CJ Allen's definitely a guy that I think that they would trust to do that They talk I mean his smarts and intelligence. I think Jacob Rodriguez is capable of doing it I'm not going to say anything he'll junior or Joe side trawler aren't I don't know that they had those responsibilities That I know the other two did have But yeah, I mean I still think that's and as he's I'll say you're it's used and I think he's definitely been a green dot guy So I mean that's something I mean he could be able to get options to be able to get an option I think I think Trotter has the ability to be a mic Yeah, I agree. Yeah, I think he has the communication and he's I think he can do it as well But I don't know this is an interesting situation to see how Dallas is handling linebacker And it's so weird because it's been very cavalier It's been very like oh, yeah, we're y'all tripping we know more than you do Right, they have We're tripping yeah, we're tripping and they just like

26:12Yeah, but then you know the linebacker situation listen, you know Regardless we thought about jack sandborne Murray those guys that that didn't work out. I was dead balls. I mean there's there's no way to take a Be cavalier about these guys and go and pick those guys again, you know no disrespect Yeah, but disrespect We have a 499 super chat from mark Henny junior How far does Hood have to drop for them to start getting antsy down just helpful with his nickel ability But I think they love hoods outside skills. What do you guys think about that? I had hood at 42 Um I do think we are gonna see a run on these corners because I'm telling you like There's some really good guys that are there. I know you well before we came on brine was like my poor corners Yeah, no my I didn't go as high as we thought they would no this is I When I look at my evaluation of my stack of my guys

27:14Man, I and Fach and I on the doing all right and I think a little bit here on the stack what we were talking about These corners Really how you put them they all kind of had something wrong with them Unfortunately with McCoy and the knee The speed with Terrell I think and that you know is their hamstring problem there You know, and then you look at will see say is a guy that maybe there's some immature questions as you really want to tackle You know where you stack them. They're all very very talented guys but then Teams don't draft them, you know, but I I expect I expect tomorrow when we open When we get open for business that these corners are going to come people are going to sleep on their board tonight And those tags are going to be sitting there And hell maybe I've got those guys too high But there's going to be some important time where we'll see the corners the edges

28:15And those linebackers are all going to go The corner the corners is like it's going to kick off early. Yeah, I mean radars could use a corner The Niners could use a corner there leading off the the draft tomorrow I'd expect Colton Hood Brandon C. Say from South Carolina. I think the big question tomorrow is going to be how far does Jermon McCoy fall? Yeah, yeah, and I wonder if Jermon McCoy is available at 92 Much like with much like it's like saber bell. Yeah, you know at that point is it like and I get it And there might be some cowboy fans that are because I believe the cowboys have it to where he's going to need that that bone plug surgery Yeah, you know, which means he's probably not going to play next year But is he just so darn good where if he's successful has that surgery and then we're looking at all right We've got a guy that's a first round talent coming in next year I think the McCoy fall is going to be a big story tomorrow Yeah, someone's going to take the risk So we have two superchats from Chad leggings. We have one 999 one No comment there just Wanted to support but then you know, I love you

29:18But then he came back again another 999 superchats. It's not like a mistake. Hey, but we appreciate mistakes. We love you Brian, I like your idea of taking one of those forts and getting a better in line back Would you also still move up if you found another one earlier with other capital? Yeah, that's To me that there's those picks those fourth round picks are back to back And I talked about move in the mag almost got us in trouble on dalskabweys.com Because they're not supposed to talk about players under contract And I just went ahead and said the you know said the name But he can't help himself. I can't help myself That's where that's where I Listen, I would go do I would I would find a way to use one of those fourth round picks the pockets there draft one Send the other one off jury sent a fourth round pick off for Tray Lance. He said a fourth round pick off for Jonathan Mingo This is nothing for him to send a fourth round pick now

30:19You'd like to see. Okay, what are the names? We're gonna be working on the draft. We're all gonna go You know collo moments is gonna go what names or do you have on the board and then you're gonna walk through them and all that And you know, maybe there'll be some guys there that you really really like that you want to pick but Man, I just feel like that going you can entice Miami or Houston or one of these teams in the do And if you want to use the other draft capital. It just kind of depends on who's there You know who but to me I'm more likely to sit. I'm more likely to sit because of the pockets of players. I mentioned earlier So we have a five-dour super chat from ex mr. Amazing. Zach. You actually answered his question Because he asked how much farther could McWayfall? Wow, I mean, I think it's possible into the third. I really do. I mean It's gonna take one team that their medical staff just thinks Maybe differently to another Not a shocker that he fell out of the first round. I think once we had the top-pellets their report

31:19And it was you know open to the public that yes, they think that he needs another surgery Which is the same thing that digs had but I wouldn't be so I mean, I think that I doubt that he he isn't selected tomorrow I'd be stunned if we're day three opens up and jim on McWayfall still available in the fourth round But I wouldn't be surprised if he is available in the third Yes, so we have a 499 super chat from Charles Gibson Do you believe we trade a veteran linebacker before the draft ends? I think he means do you believe we trade for yeah better in linebacker for the draft ends I don't know if yeah, I think that I Very well depending if they want to do a pick and I think maybe Dallas would want to do a pick this year Maybe everybody's talking about 2027 in November 1st of 2027. I'll start to tell you if this drafts any good that way But I kind of feel like though. It's that would make a sense to do it now Go ahead and say and if you're the dolphins or Houston or one of these teams that has a linebacker trying to push

32:20Pittsburgh if you want to push a guy We'll call Dallas and say hey, go say we'll take We'll take one 19 off your hands or once that whatever the you know those picks those numbers for those picks But I would try and do it. I would try and do it in this draft if I could I agree I don't think it's something that I mean for all the reasons we talked about and you Implementing a new coaching stuff. Yeah staff that is learning how to work with each other and This is everybody knows what your weakness was those your defense like this is a pivotal year I want to get these gentlemen in here as soon as possible. I agree Especially talking about rock in the mic one two three right Hey, you need to be connected with these guys you need to be understanding these guys so I agree with Brian as soon as possible, which is why I've been ticked off that has taken this long. I feel that Christopher Tucker 1474 with a two-hour super chat what linebacker could be there at 92 Well, I don't think I mean 51 We're Carolina picks in the second round. I know they like Rodriguez

33:21So to me, I feel like Rodriguez is probably going to come off the board No later than that pick at 51 not he's 92 you said 90 at 92 Alignbacker that late. Yeah about the the Cowboys next pick. Yeah, that's fourth round, right? Yeah Do you think Josiah Trotter can make it from a zoo? I mean, I don't know who's the guy that you think could last there like I think goal they's gone on yeah I think I think could even make it that long and I have him in I have mess in the 70s as Carl Lewis And he may not even make it that but yeah, I think Kyle to me is I've got him as one of those safety guys I've got him is one of the hybrid nickel safety. Oh, you're sick in the head. I'm trying How about how about our guy from Pinst from Michigan Jimmy Rolder Rolder. Yeah, how about Red Murdoch from Red Murdoch and get jig you hear me. I love it if it was red. I mean nine. Yeah I would I would still pull the trigger like if there's a Ronany. Okay. I would I would sit there Maybe Elliott from Arizona state. Yeah, I think that Rolder from Michigan

34:27Might be a possibility there at the at that third round pick. Yeah And I would I would take a look at Red Murdoch. I don't know. I'm kind of Where York I'm starting to know York from Texas A&M. I'm thinking Lawrence from Alabama I've kind of drawn the line. Yeah, I'm kind of drawing the line at Red Murdoch Elums or two. Yeah, yeah, like even I even have Murdoch in the start of the fourth But I'm not if he's there at 92. I'm cool with taking him. I love that guy too You're not into Bryce Betcher Brian from Oregon man. This don't start I mean it 92 that's kind of the range. I think I mean listen If we I would come into the I would come into the room and I would be the guy that didn't like him But if all the other scouts, it's this whole thing we did yesterday when we were talking about Miller the offensive tackle from Climbson. Yeah, I admit it. You know, botches try to go after I Eastia Botches try to go after I Eastia. He should have gone after me is who he should have gone after

35:32You know like well, you have him you know, and he had him like in the 60s or 70s I believe 73 73 I had him I had him way past that So you had him later than that. Oh, yeah 135. Yeah 135 The guy went with 17 overall and hey, it's I'm saying. I listen. I I hope the kid works out well I really do, but that's the that's the problem that I run into I run into it and but I if we're gonna circle back and talk about How about our TCU linebacker? Yes. Yeah, I think that's rich for elums or I think they're looking at him as more of a day three guys Fisher Fisher from Indiana. That's high for me too. Okay. I'm with you on that. I think that's where I think you're right I think those are all guys. I'd look at it the 112 of 114 like if they keep the fourth rounders Asia I think Murdoch is is worthy of that late for Just obviously the physicality that he brings, but I just I mean the production. Yeah, I know I do think that cowboys fans will be annoyed by the lack of closing speed because they

36:32Might have some uh, you know anxiety about witnessing it last year, but it doesn't look the same as some of those older guys I think because his motor and everything I'm y'all and he's not afraid To knock tight ends on their at their at the ball away. He y'all I would love Murdoch at that 92 spot Is there and I do think he fits there But I did have Kyle Lewis in that same round earlier in the 70s. I would not mind taking him see I I I played I played cute scout guy and took Lewis and I said, you know This my guy can cover he can run he can blitz I made him I made him one of those nickel I don't disagree with you on that. I mean you're sick, but I think somebody is gonna do it though. I think so too No, they very well good. He's just too. I just I don't he's so damn small. It's just weird to see how this he's 220 Would you guys take a would you guys Where do you where do you have Perkins Kendrick per uh Kendrick? See, I don't want to play Perkins a linebacker though Harold Perkins. Cheryl Price is Kendrick Perkins I want to play him at ESPN NBA

37:35You want to play Perkins? Yeah, I want to play him a linebacker who was a fucking star as a freshman edge, you know We heard the ooh from the control room because I said I said NF bomb. Yeah, it's okay I'm sorry guys. Hey, it's late the the children should be asleep, but if you're not We'll clean that up and post Chris. Well, it's funny because I think you guys like know these questions before they come in because somebody just asked could the LSU edge Which I assume is Harold Park in junior. Could you be there in the fourth or do you have uh to go in the third form? I Have got him in the fourth. I think I kind of earmarked like 112 if you wanted him That would be a good spot. How about okay, but maybe that maybe 92 is where we talk about is the kids name barham From Michigan. Yeah, that's your that's I issue that you know what Barham can play linebackers. Yes, that's my guy played linebacker. Okay, I don't know. I can't be 92 Perkins Perkins or barham huh? We say

38:35Perkins or Perkins or barham. Would you say right? Barham barham. Yeah, I'm taking barham as a pure Pass rusher relentlessness He's so raw, but you can just see it like he needs some polish And he's a better linebacker than Perkins in my opinion if you want to play him a lineback Don't do that to me. Why would you put me in that position? I was just asking because to me that's if you're talking about guys Potentially, I I think I've said this about Perkins would have missed you so talent and LSU Seriously, it makes me so dead man, but I'm kind of in that mode right now where I'm like I do like barham. I have him over Perkins. Yeah, I do as a as a linebacker. Yeah, I do you just watch it when you are my first time watching him He's one of my most fun watches because I was like oh he doesn't because you know what you watch a guy you like yeah He does not know what the hell he is I mean, I put him in my edge group, but I've got him in the third and I've got Perkins in the fourth and I put Perkins in the edge group too

39:36Yeah, I had I have barham um be in the third. I forgot that you liked him. I forgot that flyer. Yeah, see he at that he was uh Avril Reese, but yeah, no, yeah, oh that that was that was the that was We'd rather which if you couldn't get who do you get I love that I think and I think him and Golday You know, they're are kind of similar too because Golday's got some edge. Yeah, uh, but yeah, that's that's a fastening one A barham might be a guy at 92 he might last he might be there. I wouldn't know if he's getting helmet That doesn't always work well here with the cowboys. No, it doesn't He'll be all right. I'll be all right Christopher. So we have a DC star 8633 499 super chat no disrespect but disrespect Brian brought his 2026 That was the super no disrespect. Oh, because we did because you said no disrespect But disrespect I really hear you was like no I see my line. Yeah, I'm sorry about that no disrespect but disrespect understood. Yeah, understood Yeah, that's how he feels about Bryce Betcher from Oregon

40:39Yeah So we have a Zeus 0609 499 super chat Steven Jones said they have zero All caps interest in trading GP. How do you guys feel about this? I believe them. I don't I'm not gonna with all the respect I've had Steven Jones or disrespect to my face. I was standing right there with Steven Jones to Zach We'll check we were at no boo standing there and and and Steven Jones Zach asked him a direct question point blank about Trading Micah Parsons and Steven Jones says what do you say? No, absolutely not Well, you trade Micah Parsons. He said no no hesitation. What happened and then is that one kind more sushi after you said Like okay, this is awesome. Great. We don't have to worry about this. We guess what happens Supposedly the week before they had decided they wanted to trade Micah so no if they get an offer Because and I believe Todd Archer He said it on 105 through the fan today that they don't extend. He's George's gonna be here past this year

41:40So I mean, I think for George your best option is sign the tag play on the tag bet on yourself You're in an offense that you know you can put up great numbers You're with the quarterback that you have a good relationship with CDs a guy that you you got a good relationship with This team can have a great year especially if they find out that linebacker spot now that you have Caleb Downs on this defense This team should be back in the playoffs health god willing But to me go out there ball out George and then you'll get your money somewhere else But if somebody came to the cowboys and gave them a one you know, they don't get a receiver and pickens is still out there I think absolutely especially in the let's say they took a wide receiver in the third. I think they trade him I mean maybe in that situation, but to in reference to Chevy and reference to you know where they are Let's think I think his backass were to do so and they put they did the tag for a reason. They want him to play He's just gonna have to play and we just gonna have to move on That's just how I feel about it. Yeah, it would be upsetting if they traded George peccans because that would be the second off season around where you build your team

42:42Around the fact that you have a great player like that. Mm-hmm. Just to trade him I mean, I don't know. That would be very frustrating. I will ask you guys this and how do you feel about How do you feel about the guy playing behind it plenoid? How do you feel about flenoid? I love flenoid I feel very strongly about flenoid But the thing is too is like as we look at health it was a blessing that The fact that picking stays healthy the way that he does After how he be acting and we it was the fact that he stepped in when CD land was hurt And he seamlessly stepped in and he there were times during the season that he fought through injury They're right to play through it And I think that flenoid is gonna take a step. We got to see him become a reliable, you know Third option for the team, but I also feel like We've heard defensive coordinators talk about what it is like to have to defend a pit And a CD lamb and I want to take advantage of that for another year

43:42I don't understand why they would do that. I just got a text what from a gentleman named Ken Charles Ah It can Charles says I issue is going places This girl was coached up over the last three years with the help of Brian and other cowboy media teams Now the squirrel's next level on knowledge of the game and players. Oh, thank you. I'm gonna say this Let's say this She knows it all I had nothing to do with her this this gal knows football and she wants to know football And she wants to learn football so can't thank you. It's nothing that that's she's got an eye for this stuff She really really does and I hate to say this, but we're probably gonna lose her after this year Not to go scout for some time this year Look, I'm looking I'm picking some sound in my Steelers are about to go hire you. Yeah, but no, I I'm very nice. Thank you for the words She is a very good evaluator. I don't want you going anywhere to I need to hear with me. I'll break down

44:47Yes, we have Charles Gibson again. I appreciate the super chat 999 Would you be upset if Dallas drafted a quarterback and or a wide receiver in this draft? Absolutely not wide receiver know Quarterback it depends on who it is, but yes You traded for Joe Milton continue to develop. I mean you just signed Sam Howl I don't think the quarterback that they would draft would make the team In which case, it's kind of a silly pick to me. It was my guy greener. Oh yeah Yeah, I know he's hailing green could make the team and he'll he might end up be might be might be like He might be like the same guy you already have maybe maybe I mean Maybe a team wants to still trade for Joe Milton I don't know like maybe that could happen Milton goes and crushes it in preseason And you can get back some return on investment. I think they're going to take a wide receiver You know Malik Benson from Oregon's a guy that they clearly like on day three Jordan Hudson from SMU They've done homework on a lot of receivers. Hudson's good player really good I mean, I think day three they're going to end up a Reggie Virgil from Texas Tech They'll come away with a wide receiver. We all got that last key

45:49Oh, Bryce, we'll see later on the fourth and you got to take him in 92. I bet you he goes I bet she goes in the third. Yeah, I I feel like I have him to Let me find a lands from North Coast and then 92. He might be Might be I'd pull the trigger at 92 if he's there. That's all I'm saying, but I to answer the question You absolutely need to take another receiver because you did I know a lot of people won't talk about it But you did lose James over it. We don't know what the heck me going is. He's still just here. He's been here for decoration Yeah, and he's a free agent after this year. Yeah, so for me, I'm I'm absolutely want them And obviously without a stuff of pickings. Yeah, I want them to continue to so you're so you're not at a point So where you were with pickings where you had to go out and and give up capital before a guy because you hadn't Continue to develop those guys are to do it well So but and you did like I said you lost over it and he was reliable In that way. Yeah, reliable. Yeah, I won't talk about it If you look at your board right now and I guess I tried to ask you this question earlier If you look at your board Where is your best pocket of players of the people grouped

46:53Just how you have them stacked What group of like like okay if you read off like for example Will you I'm reading off wide receivers Williams is from Clemson right the wide receiver. Yeah, Daniels from Miami Stribbling from Ole Miss. Yeah, Ole Miss. Yeah Brazil from Tennessee Sky Bell from Yukon See that's like to me that's a good Pocket of wide receivers. Yeah, where do you get me as I should say tracking? Yeah, tracking Yeah, my mind is mine. Where's your best little pocket of players together? My best little pocket of players is gonna be those corners We were talking about okay both together those I have a D'Angelo ponds. Yeah early and early in the second. Yeah, you have a A Colton Hood as we talked about right right Keith Abney. There you go. We got a good pocket there Let's see say if you did want to continue to talk about him, but I don't care trading stokes. Yeah

47:56I'm trading stokes people are gonna be interested in because you can't like a Thinamin and downs and all those guys and this guy isn't that's a player can't to see you go good You know, I'm saying like that is I'm telling you we're about to get so much and then not far behind that Keonte Scott. I mean yeah, yeah, so the corner the corners might be the best pocket of players Corner, say corner, say I was gonna say say you got AJ Halsey from LSU Manual McNeil Warren from Toledo Wheatley from Penn State who I know you love Brian do love him Gilgore South Carolina VJ Payne Kansas State Kamari Ramsey USC but Park DCU But in an edge the thing is like I think these I think the linebacker groups gonna go I think you're gonna get the run on the linebackers because there's really only five or six that I think we feel really good about Rodriguez Hill Allen Golday Trotter And then it's like okay, do you want to go get barham? Yeah, you want to go get Roller Lewis do you play Lewis? You know, so I yeah, I think I think the second area is the

49:01The great hallmark of this draft to me. Yeah, and it's tomorrow. It's the corners and the safeties You're getting really high quality players On a day to price So we got a five-dour super chat from the truth six four six Brian What would it cost for us to move back in to get ride regas realistically To hell of a question It is a hell of a question We're okay, so we need give up the draft go Ricky William style. Let's do this Well, what we need to do is we need to get my trade chart out and figure this out Talk among yourselves as I try and do that I want to talk around myself because I love you. We'll check but I'm not doing all that you know what I'm sure what the hell I like brother. Tell me if we ended up with Caleb Downs Malachi Lawrence and Jacob Rodriguez It wouldn't be the greatest draft of all time. It will be nice, but what you got to do Yeah, well, and the Cowboys did say we're not going to mortgage three or four players for one player You want to know what I love about this super chat He makes sure that he asked Brian because if he asked you yeah, he knows you would have gotten you would have got The answer I'll give up the two fours you just got and I'll give up next year's three. I'm about to pop you

50:07Okay, the draft the draft starts off tomorrow with San Francisco Arizona Buffalo Yeah, and then Vegas Raiders so just to give you an idea Just to give you an idea San Francisco's pick to start the day is worth 580 points There then it goes 585 60 55 55 45 30 that's the Giants at 37 Houston is at 38 at 520 you've got to come up with You got to come up with those points or is this an opportunity for you to trade George Pickens Oh hey and listen Raiders at 36 You trade George Pickens for 236 look if I'm the Raiders I You've got Pickens you've got Fernando Mendoza you just drafted as a Gen. T. Brock Bowers. I'm just saying Y'all cared nothing about picking mitzahale Because I know why you gonna send them to there Well, he likes it very clear I'm just I'm just saying if you if Steven Jones is not telling the truth

51:13They're I would use him. I would use George Pickens as how about okay? 39 Yeah, I mean look I think Brian realistically if you want Jacob Rodriguez You got as I mentioned. I think you got to jump Carolina So I think the far you need to go up to probably 50. I don't see him lasting past 62 I think his range is probably going to be and maybe there's a team that likes him enough that wants to take him Maybe the Giants really like him there at 37, but I think realistically I'd look at pick 51 with Carolina 262. I think that area is where he definitely will end up the Bears could take him the Texans could take him The Jags could use a linebacker The Steelers like him from what I've been told at 53 So you might need to get up to 50 there with that Lions pick all right So we have a 20-hour super chat from Jorge Jasquez NFL is a strange lady Hot called it NFL team socket drafting. So this is somebody that is very tapped in with the crown global media lore

52:18So we appreciate you thank you very much. I appreciate you guys. I don't think I People like who they like oh You don't like the team suck a drafting. I don't I didn't I sometimes I get frustrated with the twos I don't like every team sucks a little drafting. I think watch nailed it Caleb downs falling to 11 team suck a drafting I think teams suck a drafting, but it's also like I don't know The team stuck a drafting thing to me is we saw today who thinks who what people think about these players I think that yeah, you can't look at them and say To us maybe he suck. Yeah, but it to them This is this my this my dog you would you would say you would say this if you didn't know anything about the draft You were watching for the first time and you you would say So the Rams took a guy that people were talking about in the third round Yeah, and then you would say yeah, but the Rams don't suck a drafting You know, so yeah, I I think there's it's situational. It's very such but you're right. I wish I think tea

53:20I think people like who they like and I don't think they care I know that less need doesn't care. It's I know that he doesn't care. It's your ice cream thing Yeah, I mean, it's like tonight the pick 32 when we're on air. I said this I said John's side is going to take this she's going to take the Notre Dame running back. You're ready It's a little bit old my number two. Who do you take you took the Notre Dame running back? God can't help himself. He can't he can't help himself. Yeah So we have a 199 super chat from Trovon Milliams is Caleb Downs this generation's Darren Woodson. Yes Darren Woodson liked to if you saw if Darren Woodson When he was selected the Cowboys posted something and Darren Woodson. I love it was This is ain't congratulations and all that we had Dave Campbell on you know Yesterday our Thursday Yeah, and then he was saying that he'd love You know Downs and Dina men and all that I mean he was trying to say are these guys got some of those Darren Woodson traits

54:22He does. Yeah, especially they're going to play him a nickel. Yeah What a honor. Yeah. Yeah, Darren Darren really said that my favorite guy No, no Caleb Downs. There he is right behind me right behind you knowing Caleb Downs My guy Zach taking care of me with my Darren Woodson picture right by and it should be He Caleb Downs will go and find Darren Woodson Yeah, he'll he'll form a relationship with him. Absolutely. I Darren Woodson will reach out to him. Yeah That cut from the same cloth those two This might have been like my favorite Cowboys draft pick of all time because he came from Ohio State I mean you can go high on the state so excited. Oh, I can't I can't hold it in come with you man So we have a Zachary bright Five zero one six with a 999 super chat is there any more trades you think they can make I like giving up before for a veteran linebacker drafting another winebacker love all the work this draft season keep it up Thank you. Yeah, I think that's that's the best I can do right now You know, I mean maybe tomorrow morning I'll get up and I'll have a different or I'll drive home It'll be thinking about or maybe get on the phone and like oh, maybe there's another thing

55:23I I do think that Dallas is off and running for a good draft I think they are I think that I think what they did how man It was very encouraging to me how they were able to navigate today The up in the back and and how they were able to move around a little bit and get Better value get traded way picks, but then get better value back with some picks So yeah, maybe tomorrow will be that another day where they you know, they kind of like oh wow Okay, we did this the right way and I We applauded them early for it, but I just think it has to be one of those things and I'm gonna say this We just talk about pockets of players If you see pockets of players at certain positions And they feel like it's gonna stretch don't move don't move don't give up draft capital Just go wait and see how these things fall to you I mean their patients paid off with the uh with the uh with the downspick I know that we like are reluctant to trust coaches

56:24and to especially to trust Why laughing because I'm I'm the one that's that's what I'm saying you're you It's I am I'm the worst I admit it We're reluctant to trust coaches because we've had enough experiences where we had new coaches come in change scheme change all this different stuff And we haven't seen a workout however I do think that Jerry and Steven and those guys are getting some of the As you listen to them talk and I you gentlemen interviewed them far more than we do There's a difference in how they are speaking about football yeah, yeah, like football Do you know what I'm talking about? I want to believe I want to believe it But I I have to believe it a little bit I'll be standing next to you in that field in Oxnard I want to believe it. That was just took a safety at 12. Yeah. Oh, I'm starting to attack Bit the dude came in there and said I want a nickel. I want a guy that can do this this that in the third They went out of free agency got some other safety corners that can do all of these things to I think today is putting your money where your mouth is a little bit

57:25When he's when you talk about this new coaches And and really making changes for this team paid for free safety and free agency drafted, you know, downstairs and I do think down through them is probably also kind of a corner Invested in your experience of line lines here to put yourself in this position. These are I'm culminating all of the information of how they're moving different and it does look a little different All right, is there a hundred dollars? Super chat. We got to hit yeah A big money right now. Let's knock out the big dogs and then we'll wrap this we'll put a bow on this thing We got to get up in a little bit and do this again. They too. Yeah So we have Stephen Lamper appreciate that a hundred dollars super chat. Oh, thank you man I've lived in Connecticut all with my 56 years I've found BB on the draft show about 10 years ago. Thank you for all the work I listen to the fan all day on YouTube for my Cowboys news finally get to catch a live podcast to send you some money LOL thanks again. Thank you very nice you man appreciate that. I really really do It's very kind of you and thank you for following along on the journey the draft show is

58:30I said I do have now the draft show to get the free the polo, you know The polos we gave us it was nice polos. Yeah, but we got two nice colors. We got nice shirts But the thing about it is though like I say the draft show has always been about investigate and educate and so That's something we do and that's something we're trying to do here too I'm really proud of the guys and gals that that work with us here and and and making this channel what it is because I could say it is It's a lot of work But man it's a lot of fun. Yeah, just to be able to like spend all day talking about this Live it for the first round and then come back and redo it talk about it again Is a blast, but thank you very much for your kind of words So yeah absolutely appreciate the superchats if you guys haven't already please make sure to hit that like button subscribe 3000 viewers that is just flat out awesome guys. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much We look forward to of course day two so many good players are still available Cowboys picking at 92 who knows maybe they end up moving up since they got that more that added arsenal

59:33With those fourth round picks they got Caleb Downs Malachai Lawrence your newest Dallas Welcome what a night it has been in cowboy land. Thank you so much for hanging out with us our first night one Yeah, we still have superchats. Oh my gosh, Chris. You made it seem like we were wrapping up I just wanted to do a call to action there. I mean hold action you called it All right, so five-dollar superchats from Sean lag just want to say the draft show is great. Y'all did a phenomenal job I we have Nathan Parkinson 499 Superchats does down to make the DAC window longer if the defense can become a weapon instead of a liability Can I just say something real good? Go for it. Go for it. The DAC window Matt Stafford just want to MVP in his 38 years old. Yeah That does DAC is never struck me as somebody this is gonna play a long time. He's too smart Too smart guys like that can play a while So we have a swore with a two-hour superchats trade up a little And get the NY linebacker or other spot you want

1:00:37That's what Bobby I think Bobby O'Carrick is a free agent though. Yeah, I don't think you wouldn't have to trade for you. Thank God Yeah Miami would be the linebacker Miami Houston It's for if they want to win. Yeah, Pittsburgh says they they don't know. Yeah, what will he say? So we have a 999 superchap from Blake Hobart. No comment. Just wanted to support the page appreciate that Appreciate you. Um, and let me go down here. So a $10 superchap from deweasy I want to get Brian as flowers. I actively seek your knowledge and experience and skills and appreciate How you're bringing the young great minds along you're needed with all the fluff Thank you. Appreciate you, man. We do we do we take a lot of pride in this Yeah, you do this long enough. You put your name out there There's people remember the goods and the bads It's it's not easy, man. No, it's not easy. I mean, I'm of a crawfish pool We'll be talking about the goods and the bads these people Sometimes you guys are really nice and sometimes you're really like you need to do a little bit better Brian bros. Yeah

1:01:42All right, give me one last one Chris and we'll wrap it up and take the rest tomorrow Okay, so we have a 499 superchap from Ryan Henke Personally, love Max Lewin Uh, Max Lewin. Yeah, comp fours. Would he fit in the system? Damn, right? He would. Yeah, he's I don't even I'm pissed off because I forget about my boy Yeah, he's he's another one of those guys that I kind of feel like as you talk about that threshold of like the Murdoch and those guys There's a skill difference. Yeah, those guys as if you go further than the well and Lewin has the worst 40 The worst broad jump the worst vertical jump But you've lined him up and play and he's in the backfield all the time Max Lewin if you're an Iowa football fan, you know exactly what I'm talking about if you're a fan of the big 10 You know exactly what I'm talking about this guy is disruptive. He's long. He's ranging. Iowa has a history with really good defenders Really good defensive players, you know, they're not going to be they're always the most flashy

1:02:43But they're steady consistent and Max Lewin is going to be on someone's team And they're going to take him and he's going to be a really hard guy to cut yeah because he plays at such a high level For not having a lot of skill jack Campbell comes to mind Didn't test well. I remember we watch Iowa. They do that Iowa they just the head he do you watch the Iowa you watch Iowa and Indiana and Indiana really can't be moving the wall very much Because of what their Iowa's defense was doing their day when you can play high football high level football Yep, I love special teams All right, we'll get to the rest of these tomorrow. We got doing all right. Of course about nine hours Yep, and then know how their episode of the stack gets you ready for day two Thank you so much Zach Road Jacob Ray in the back. We love you. Thank you so much everything you do for Chris for Brian Broadess Aisha Morrison. I'm Zach Wollchuck until next time hugs and handpounds everybody