
Code Wars: How Nation-States Really Launch Cyberattacks
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For years, many of us have thought about cyberattacks as criminals chasing money. But when you zoom out, you realize something much bigger is happening.
Cyber has become one of the most powerful geopolitical weapons of the 21st century. Nations use it to spy, influence elections, sabotage infrastructure, and increasingly—disrupt supply chains that businesses rely on every day.
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For MSPs, this isn’t theoretical. We’ve seen it with SolarWinds and with the growing number of attacks aimed at the very platforms that power and protect our clients.
Tonight’s guest, Allie Mellen, author of Code Wars, helps us understand something incredibly important: nation-state cyberattacks aren’t random acts of chaos—they are calculated moves driven by strategy, doctrine, and national objectives.
In other words, when you see an attack, you’re often seeing a move on a geopolitical chessboard.
So today we’re going to explore how nations think about cyber war, what patterns exist behind the most famous attacks, and—most importantly—what it means for the MSPs sitting in the middle of the global digital supply chain.
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