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1:05disagree with their takes here should be to it you ready and I tried to do a mix of some I was literally born ready literally born again ready born again or something on the issue podcast they they're none of them come from a Christian background so they always they always are like confused when people talk about being like born again but then the host always says he's like a new born Christian I think it's so fine to be like I'm new born that's what's it a born again that's what you can call it yeah that's funny that's what we're laughing so much it's really fun we're just both tired we're both tired right now wait where's the laughter I don't know are you ready they're all turned down all of all is applicable whatever nope that's probably more ready yeah okay first quote money is a servant not a master steward it for eternity not yachts I agree

2:07with the first part the eternity part maybe less so I'll go more at the die was zero campaign then steward it for eternity but the first part's good money money is a bad master servant that's jump hyper okay and we agree with everything John Piper says right yeah right Eric yeah I'm coming up with a good clip for you yeah I love everything he says sweet if your husband is hitting you in dirt getting smack for a night as he actually said that that's hilarious he said just in dirt being snack smack for a night they go talk to your pastor that is wild it's like actual words that came out of his mouth I want to show you the clip but it's not relevant yeah at all it's not but yeah yeah he said if she has to in dirt being smack for a night you know amen amen all right anyway here's another one the man who has God and everything else has no more than the man who has God only oh I see okay

3:08so it took me a second that one took me a second to read it I would agree if you substitute if you assign the meaning of God to whatever purpose yeah purpose meaning you know family happiness universe whatever you know you personally believe then I would then I would go yes on that all the Christian needs oh I'm sorry that was toger a W toger yep all the Christian needs is a Bible a pig and a wife wealth beyond iscentation or if you're a real Christian I can already picture about this pastor would be like all the Christian ages Bible a pig and a wife and I look out of some of you right now it looks like you got two for one deal exactly that's where it's literally where they would have my exactly where my it's so annoying it's like it basically you just have to go what's the lowest denominator joke and that's it there you go all Christians need is a Bible a pig and a wife wealth beyond is temptation no bad oh in correct I

4:15can't believe you're saying this about Martin Luther Martin Luther to be clear this is Martin Luther not Martin Luther King Martin Luther's quotes about the Jews are crazy really yeah that makes this just this some side homework and realistically like to go down a rabbit hole can I tell you the name of his book Martin Luther's book Martin Luther's book he wrote a book about Jews mm-hmm such a diabolical laugh here we go in 1543 Martin Luther wrote a 65,000 word treatise called on the Jews and their lies why don't you know here's here's one more piece one more thing about the Jews there did you know did you know that Henry Ford I told you this potentially Henry Ford had a picture of Adolf Hitler on his desk okay and Hitler had a picture

5:17of Henry Ford on his desk because they were so inspired by each other but you also know Henry Ford himself used to produce a magazine publication against the Jews really just like an anti-Semitic publication Jack of all trades that Henry Ford America's truck every time I see a Ford commercial stuff built for a very specific subset of the population and no one else anyway here we go prosperity teaching turns Jesus into a genie give to get rich heresy you have to say that one more time prosperity teaching turns Jesus into a genie give to get rich heresy okay all right I'm gonna bore with that one I'm gonna bore with that one okay John MacArthur fan over here shot I love me some John MacArthur you know there's a group of kids from West Coast that went to John MacArthur's service in college and then got in big trouble for doing that and then a couple years later Paul Javel posted a picture with John MacArthur really his brother really he said it

6:20with like that surprising with an a my brother yeah no and I thought like that that's my biggest pet piv is like is like when the standards loosen which I think is a good thing many times it's a good thing many times when the standards loosen about like dumb stuff like screens or music or whatever but which I mean that's is when they just switch it but then you know that you got reading but never address it yeah and they never say oh we were wrong they never address yeah it tries me crazy it's it's what when we even hear stories about like the school that we grew up in stay on target we're just stay stay on target yeah it drives me crazy what it's like wait your little one grew three inches overnight adorable also expensive sell their pint size pieces on deep hop and list them in minutes with no selling fees because somewhere a dad refuses to pay full price for the clothes his kid will outgrow tomorrow and he's ready to buy your son's entire wardrobe right now consider your future growth spread budget secured start selling on deep hop where taste recognizes taste

7:26payment processing fees and boosting fees still apply see website for details CRM was supposed to improve customer relationships instead it's shorthand for customer rage machine your CRM can't explain why a customer's package took five detours reboot your inner piece and scream into a pillow it's okay on the service now AI platform CRM stands for something better AI agents don't just track issues they resolve them transforming the entire customer experience so breathe in and breathe out bad CRM was then this is service now they can just they can just do that now beards are okay yeah beards and like girls can work I just discovered if I do this into the microphone it sounds really cool it sounds really cool all right I've held millions and felt empty true wealth is generosity that hurts I think that depends on your personal might like what your goal is yeah that's also a strange way to put it like generosity that hurts that feels strange like that's like my

8:30experience anytime I've been generous it doesn't I think it's like giving be like giving a little beyond your me like sure but even in those contexts I don't like it it's like I mean I guess I guess because someone could see that and manipulate you like crazy yeah right exactly which is what happened to me when I first started making money that's like how am I making thousands of dollars from landscaping but I have like two hundred dollars my bank account oh the giving the giving bank with took all my money yeah that's a that's Francis Chan okay okay isn't either one who wrote love love wins or something like that yes Francis Chan no no no love was not wrong bell yeah no Francis Chan wrote something else some bell love wasn't it wasn't he somebody that we looked at as like a big compromiser or something was he like a pretty loved outside of IFB world okay what was the quote again I've held millions and felt empty true wealth this generosity that hurts yeah I like

9:32the idea of like feeling empty holding on to millions versus giving sure but again some of this stuff's a little too dramatic yeah it's like just just be normal yeah like just maybe don't be weird about it you know what I mean yeah wealth is a tool for ministry true riches are eternal relationships not bank balances come on Travis makes try oh this is this is the yin and yang of you oh yeah money in relationships Travis let me rephrase a statement true riches are your relationships or true riches are making money yeah you Travis makes friends or Travis makes money what are you doing relationships relationships over everything you know relationships plus nothing equals everything you know what I mean you sure yeah okay yeah if you're gonna choose one of the other then I'd rather have rich fulfilling relationships but that's the beauty is that you don't you don't have to choose you can have you can have both of those things poverty is from the devil speak

10:38wealth into your chest from wow poverty's from the devil this is somebody from the SPC or something poverty's from the devil speak wealth into your cheeks why do you say that it was so unnecessary to say in your cheeks your cheeks is wild work poverty is from the devil speak wealth into your cheeks like I did it with my 18 million dollar citation jet what what this sounds like some Kenneth Cole right on is that who it is that's hilarious well what do you think speak wealth dude we need that to be the new sign off speak wealth into your cheeks do you find him saying that you need to speak wealth into your cheeks we have to find him saying that I hope it's not about the song speak wealth into your cheeks which cheeks Kenneth which she's into your cheeks I'm just gonna start saying that that's some swag right now

11:43oh man that's good but speak wealth into your cheeks I don't think he said that somewhere that is crazy work goodness gracious that I want printed on a on a t-shirt speak wealth into your cheeks no you know what that'd be great for is on the butt of a pair of sweatpants to speak instead of juicy you know there's a whole clothing brand it's a very smart business because I follow a musician and then she started like she because like she would always wear these ones you perform but they're they're oh my god what are they called they're like booty shorts with writing on the back but they're like I don't know but one of them should say speak wealth into your cheeks that is a really good one yeah is it the bummer shop is that what they're called yeah yeah yeah yeah this is it this is such I like I was like dude this is such a smart apparel company brand educating the public one so it's like social what's the word like social justice type stuff for like important things so it's like it's like ask me about the book I'm reading

12:45yeah like it's a lot like more like lefty stuff so but but it's like yeah it's smart though yeah like it's just yeah like man created god because it couldn't stand that women create life how about that wow abortion safer than title I would pay good might as you wear these what look at this look at these shorts the only ethical consumption of capitalism it's an arrow to their nether regions you know Kenneth Copeland's leaning over to speak wealth into those cheeks I would love you'd love to see one pair of those Copeland speak wealth into the chief speak wealth into your cheeks but anyway but this is like one of those clothing brands but like that is so smart yeah because it's something that people like again one butter to time you see people posted and you're like oh that's Ted Benny's report I will wear these actually Ted Benny's Republican so it was John Wayne Gacy actually that makes sense but you know what that means every single person is a Republican is probably a serial killer that is what that is just that's how stats work that is that's how

13:45they're wrong yeah speak wealth in the cheeks speak speak wealth in the cheeks is crazy I love that the quote ended with him talking about his jet where does he say that where did where did he say that he always has to bring the attention back to his jet it's it's just on the box it is perpetually making up this quote is this a real quote you're googling it now give me a citation what if it just made that up no that's not a wow do we just get a just a negative point on perplexity now how did they get to cheeks where did cheeks come from wow so we've just been engaging in fake news fake news well now this calls in a question the last 10 years no I do know the other ones that we pull up I was looking and I mean that's a that's one that we should cross check yeah because it's a wild thing to say that is so crazy that perplexity just defamed Kenneth Copeland yeah I just want to say to Kenneth Copeland's robust legal team yeah we really didn't know

14:49we did but see look hey how about that we fact check that on this episode we didn't let it slip by admitted the apology yeah AW I will say all the other quotes I know because I've heard 90% of the party that's true so but it's crazy perplexity was perverse enough to say speak wealth in your cheeks if perplexity was going to give a quote to like that and attribute it to somebody Kenneth Copeland would be the one that makes most sense you want to know how it got there wow so it says no that's not a verbatim real quote from Kenneth Copeland it's a paraphrase blending his actual teachings for dramatic podcast effect don't do that that's hilarious Copeland has repeatedly preached that poverty is from the devil and belongs to Satan's kingdom and then it says cheeks came from I said where did cheeks come from it's a cheeks and that Kenneth Copeland paraphrase comes from a viral 2021 clip where he infamously puffed out his cheeks while laughing off COVID-19 as demon germs it's not a direct quote but a podcast ready mashup nodding to that

15:50moment blending with his real that's that's a crazy perplexity don't do that don't ever do that I only want verbatim quotes bro yeah quotes you liar perplexity doesn't have a track we were tracked all the laughter I had a laughter that that is funny that is funny but I don't like that it lied so I said only verbatim quotes yeah thank you to be fair there's plenty of stuff that kind of Copeland has actually said that's comedy enough we don't have to embellish yeah I don't know I don't like that I don't like that it did that and I want everyone to know that the other quotes are real yeah okay then fact checked now yeah all right man that really that really ruined my day bums me out okay how about this one buddy but God wants you to be so financially stable that you can bless others extravagantly say that again God wants you to be financially stable so that you can bless others extravagantly yeah I like that one I definitely thought you said goblins

16:55at the beginning goblins sounds like another made up the goblin the goblins are blowing wealth and you cheeks no God wants you to be financially stable that you can bless others extravagantly yeah that's a good one TV jakes agree you know TV jakes was like I feel like now I can't have scared to give any more wrong information but there was allegations about TV jakes doing freaky stuff at a ditty party who before ditty got arrested for that and he was like I denied that nothing ever happened with ditty and then like the ditty went down yeah and then tjx retired recently actually I think I'm just gonna I think I'll do maybe I'm just gonna move to this country oh oh there's no extra edition here crazy let me fact check that tjx retired now I don't know what to believe tjx I believe he did and they just handed yeah he retired in 20 25 that's a good quote though yeah good quote though yeah bad about ditty great quote yeah we can

17:57dem what ditty did bishops that's the overall traps makes money take on this holy smokes tjx has been the subject of an unverified AI generated rumor linking into the legal troubles and freak off parties of shan ditty comes I know yet I had actual a fuser to just saying but he had previously partnered with ditty's revolt TV network in 2021 for a sermon series he did attend a birthday party for come oh wait he partnered with ditty for a sermon series for a sermon series for his teeth on ditty's TV network man did he was doing everything or a representative for jakes confirmed he attended a birthday party for comes in 2022 but emphasized it was brief public appearance with staff and he oh and td jakes suffered a heart attack when this came out life lock how can I help the IRS that I filed my return but I haven't one in four tax paying americans has paid the price of identity fraud what do I do my refund though I'm freaking out don't worry I can fix this life lock fixes identity theft guaranteed and gets your money back with up to three million

18:58dollars in coverage I'm so relieved no problem I'll be with you every step of the way one in four was a fraud paying american not anymore save up to 40 percent your first year visit life lock dot com slash podcast terms apply well yeah like medical issues which made him look very less suspicious less innocent like oh you think nobody but anyway that's also one of those crazy jakes crossovers where pastors just like sweep under the rug all the other things that celebrity's doing just uh no jakes jakes stated that roughly 44,000 AI generated bots were used to spread misinformation about them on social media that's an oddly specific number he filed a legal motion in 2024 to uncover the identity of some individuals behind the defamatory videos link him to com's retired me left bye bye well thank you for this one good quote did you talk about okay what okay it was a good quote let's do another quote let's get a let's get it off the diddy trainer nothing that's not for everybody who's trying to say I've got the big house I've got four cars

20:02got his bless me and I earned it this is just a quote this is the fact that's Joyce Meyer yeah you like that sure sure yeah sure this okay how about this one last this one's real last one touch this screen it's a televangelist touch the screen show your best seed poverty demons flee who that sounds like Kenneth Copeland no poverty demons flee poverty demons flee tops the screen show your best seed yeah that's all prosperity poverty demons flee bullshit you're not gonna get any richer by touching a screen if you show your seed we're praying a prayer I'm just touching the screen and so am I see who is that been in wow that makes a lot better classic grade A grifter yeah grade A grifter yeah what okay let me ask you this do you have any pastoral words of wisdom about finances that you carry with you to this day a quote where your treasure is that's where your heart is survival that's not a pastoral

21:06no I want to pass your quote oh then no I don't okay nothing that I would say remains true because I've had to do a lot of reworking around my mindset about money what's the worst quote you ever heard about finances probably the most egregious one is because it's everything everybody's heard it is people just started saying the the that money is a root of all evil rather than the love of money is the root of all evil I think that's probably the most well-known misquote of what the Bible actually says that probably proliferates a lot of people who grew up religious is that they conflate those two things in those are two wildly different things true go ahead and close this out there Travis thank you so much we're gonna go ahead and bring this in for a landing they even have landed say I don't know what this sounds like but it's not it's it's just like when you're watching a movie they're in space we're approaching an asteroid field yeah well that's it for this episode of the show remember money only solves your money problems but

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