Church & State - The Sleeper Agent with A.W. Finnegan

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3:14that although I would say it it may be possible that I had it all my life and got a second dose in 2016 is when it went chronic because my mother had it and it does pass to the children and then she got really sick around 2000 so I was well aware of Lyme disease and I saw how debilitated my mother was because of it and I had read this book lab 257 I'm sure you're aware of that book and I had read that I believe it was 2006 and I think it came out in 2004 but it was the first book that it talked about John Loftus the Nazi hunter who wrote the introduction to my book and it was talking about Eric Traub there's talking about the plum island stuff the tic-tests and so that got me really interested and then when I got sick in 2016 I was like I put this timeline together and I reached out to John Loftus because I had

4:19decided that I wanted to write this book I had decided that I want to figure out this story and I was just driven I was like I'm going to figure out this story and I sent him a timeline so I reached out to him I think it was on like Facebook or something didn't hear back from him for a long time and then one day he just sent he got back to me and he was like wow this is amazing why don't you give me a call gave him a call started corresponding with him he also introduced me to some filmmakers he was talking to who were doing a project on the same thing and then it kind of became this like group project they were helping me get all the documents like a lot of the German papers from German universities all of Eric Traub's work they were helping me with funding to get a lot of the important documents over in over in Germany like the federal archives over there there was some you know like the embezzlement investigation at Eric Traub was pretty

5:19pretty expensive so they were very helpful like that and what I would do is I would be writing my book and I would tell them what I found so that they could write a screenplay about it unfortunately the screenplay didn't go anywhere but my book definitely did got published in Chris Meligan who owns Trin De who I also work for now after the book was published I got a job with them he had already published republished rather John Loptus's original the Belarus secret and as America's Nazi secret is the new name now under Trin De I was corresponding with Loptus for like all of those years I mean I spent seven seven or so years writing that book I think and oh and here's the other thing and so he's not actually the source of that information it's actually a bio defense source a very high level bio defense source who also held a Q clearance like Loptus

6:24and that guy had so much good information he said why don't you look into this or this or this you know and I would look into stuff and there's some stuff like you know that I found hard to believe and but instead of being hard-headed and thinking I know everything I just decided to follow up on all of his all of his lead all of his suggestions and they never stop producing and once I started looking into Eric Trab oh and back up just a little bit there was a Lyme disease group that I was that I had joined I think was on Facebook and I met a bunch of women who were running this group and they taught me about the way that Lyme disease actually works how it basically disables your immune system and then brings on these reactivated viruses and you just get a from head to toe you just get basically like turning your body against itself and uh it they taught they taught me about this condition known as immune tolerance and it's just like

7:30chronic immune deficiency you could think of it like this they call it immune tolerance because your immune system is suppressed into a state where your body's forced to tolerate harmful pathogens and it should otherwise be keeping out of your body because you don't have a good immune system it's not working properly so when I started looking into Eric Trab I ended up finding out after I had learned about all that stuff that he was the one who actually discovered immune tolerance and he was doing it during vaccine research at the Rockefeller Institute so that was all like everything just kind of came together if I hadn't known those women who were running that group truth they were called truth cares I wouldn't have learned about immune tolerance I wouldn't have had really any clue about Eric Trab's work and if I didn't eat loftess I wouldn't have met his bio defense source

8:30and had all of that other information that was very important it just kind of came together so it was it was amazing but let me pause you here and and let me back you up because uh you know I'm I'm aware of plum island but for any of the audience that maybe is like what is he talking about here with plum island and the experiments that were occurring there let's back up a little bit and tell the audience what this was and why so many of us believe that there was biological weapons developed and then released you know there's some debate of whether it was intentional or not I tend to believe more intentional but through these ticks yeah so what happened was so plum island back when Eric Trab was here during paperclip it wasn't it wasn't set up under the USDA yet it was just a little army place that had a little lab like you know and it was a it was a site that they could test on since it was on an island that was very important so Eric Trab worked

9:35on a German plum island over in Germany during the war he worked on an island called insulin reams and it was basically when he came over to paperclip they were trying to set plum island up to be like insulin reams based on Eric Trab's descriptions of it Eric Trab was considered the the the world's top expert in biological warfare okay so he was basically advising them how to run a biological warfare program all the things to do how to set it up um we were getting all of our our biodefense practices from the Nazis um so when when he was over there that they had what are called simulant tests these simulant tests like a simulation of a bioteric attack right um they would spray what they what they say were harmless bacteria all over the city of San Francisco from a Navy ship in the in a fog those were open air tests they also had other tests that were insect

10:41simulant tests so he was telling them yeah it's harmless but it really wasn't he was basically it was like an attack right under our noses um they were supposed to be harmless and at first a lot of it it was a very these are very stealth bioweapons that I got I got to enter into jacked here and say um most people think of biological warfare is as just you know releasing something that kills everybody but this is a very different kind of um bioweapon it's a it's a slow incapacitating agent right so it's meant to tire exhaust and overwhelm an enemy over a long period of time it's like a long-term strategy um so those were the kinds of weapons that they were using um Eric Trab was overseeing these tests and I had him with the spire keats

11:45sorry I had him with the spire keats um the closest relative from the relapsing fever group of spire keats are birelia the closest to birelia the the lime plate or whatever the the lime group birelia burgdor fry and it's in the spire keats that cause lion disease and um I also have him what is unusual is so usually when you get lion disease you don't just get lion disease you get babesiosis you get Bartonella you get erliciosis or ketiosis you get uh you know in the lime disease um also anoplasmosis well the same year that he that he gets the spire keat I also find him learning about how you can roll a whole bunch of infections into one and it causes this same immune tolerance that he's that he discovered and was looking to induce with

12:46these weapons that's another thing these incapacitating agents act through this immune tolerance mechanism that he discovered um but the problem is these kinds of weapon actually blur the line between vaccine and bioweapon that basically the same thing what I ended up finding was the vaccines are doing the same exact thing as his bio weapons so and one one thing I found you know I think it's active sabotage that's my personal um take away after writing that book is that our public health system has been slowly infiltrated and taken over to the point where now it's being used as a weapon against us and let me explain oh yeah and there's one guy that I talk about my book so I do talk about the Soviet Union and their bio weapons program a lot because uh my high level source said that it was very important first I laughed them off like like I said and then

13:48I started looking into it well there was this guy named MP tumikov right mccale peach humicov he was a serious bio weapon near hardline Stalinist communist and uh uh he actually so he was testing ticks he was testing these weaponized ticks over in uh Siberia he was testing them on the Muslims among goliens uh the rest of populations at that time and after that he actually goes and so the Soviet Union captured Eric Trubbs lab in Germany and MP tumikov actually went and met with Eric Trubb to gain information on the immune tolerance and then about 1954 MP tumikov teams up with Albert B. Saven of the American public health system to make the oral polio vaccine okay which which is contaminated by the S340 of course just like socks was and I guess sock also had um worked with this guy to some degree but he was also

14:55investigated by the F.D. FBI and found to have many many associations with like communist front groups and stuff Jonas Salk and of course he wrote that disturbing book survival otherwise this well MP tumikov he he makes the oral polio vaccine with Saven and they have all these problems and then Saven gets his son constant in tumikov a job over in our public health system the son of a hardcore Stalinist bio-eppinier this guy gets into our public health system works his way up through the F.D.A. and now and then he was running vaccine safety and review at the F.D.A. he was the one approving vaccines that would be given to Americans okay and he's the one who assisted in approving the COVID vaccine so let me pause you again I mean you're hitting the audience with so much information and I am right there with you I'm gonna back up a second just

15:56for the audience is sake once again you mentioned paperclip you're talking about operation paperclip this is where we we took droves of Nazi scientists over to the United States and put them into all sorts of different positions this is with the space program is probably the most the one that most people are aware of but also like you're talking about biological warfare and then you also mentioned that you know that the spring over San Francisco look people look this up this occurred there was a death associated with that and they were able to prove that yes indeed it was a government operation that sprayed this intentionally on the citizens of San Francisco and then you're talking about the vaccines and I'm so I so appreciate that you're nailing this because I have for a very long time on this program told people don't get vaccines do not get them obviously Chris this one's not going on YouTube we get banned for things like that but hey don't yeah don't take them guys because these are biological weapons and the evidence is is is in this book but it's not just in this book it's in a lot of different publications that you can read you can do the research

17:00on you know don't go to don't go to the internet because they're gonna tell us you're all where you know a bunch of conspiracy theorists on here but going back to plum island again all right so they're they're experimenting with biological weapons a tick is a just a fantastic vector right they can use something out of nature that they can release into the into the populace and unfortunately for those of you living in the northeast this is where it was it was released here that's why almost all the Lyme disease case well predominantly the Lyme disease cases are in the northeast but it has spread throughout the country so keep going with the story sir yeah so and Eric Trubbs these stealth weapons often make it so so with immune tolerance what happens is you get this low level of inflammation because your immune system is so suppressed I know it's kind of complicated because we've been taught to see immunology one way but he basically flipped it on its head and so when you get this immune tolerance from these bio weapons you get very low level

18:05if there's any inflammation at all I mean I would argue that probably isn't but then you also you don't make very many antibodies so you're gonna show up negative on these tests that's why so many people with Lyme disease and also other chronic diseases show up you know they're told oh you don't have Lyme disease negative and I mean this science proves exactly how that works that the problem is it also proves if they were to acknowledge if they were to acknowledge immunolence it would flip the vaccine industry on its head and that's that's what I see is I don't think I think that's the reason they won't acknowledge it we would have understood chronic disease back in 1960 instead they gave the Nobel Prize for immune tolerance to these two guys who didn't even work together and weren't nominated together by anyone and made it about organ transplant recipients because the same thing can happen and it's probably from infectious material in those organs

19:08but um well let me ask you let me ask you this because I have a question on this uh and I'm gonna tell you my personal belief on this and it centered around the lone star tick uh I look at all of these elites that they just discussed me people like Bill Gates who claimed because of climate change uh we got to eat a whole lot less meat and then there were two scientists who were actually released a report uh saying it was the moral obligation to make people allergic to beef and now we have these lone star ticks that are spreading across the country and if you get bit by one of these you end up being allergic to beef to me that's a lot of evidence to suggest that this is a biological weapon what's a you yes as far as that one like I didn't come across that in those old those older times but I'm sure and there was actually I did see a uh a report I don't know I didn't get to look into it deeply but they were saying that vaccinations were we're fueling the alpha-gale syndrome

20:13as well um but yeah I mean these people are insane like Bill Gates for example um his his advisor was working with Jeffrey Epstein uh and and that advisor was actually a a specialist in immune tolerance and I found a paper in 2012 it was called disease tolerance as a defense strategy okay it was funded by the bill in Melinda Gates foundation disease tolerance is just immune tolerance is it just a different wording um and you know this is crazy that they would look at this so here's what I didn't tell you immune tolerance when you induce this immune tolerance what you find is you you get this triple effect this what I call the dark triad of immune tolerance chronic disease uh neuro psychiatric and neurological disorders and also cancer okay Eric Trabh he this is how he

21:14found that out he he injected mouse he injected a mouse with foreign antigen and he was trying to reactivate a dormant virus within side the mice uh and he did it spread to all the other mice in the colony then he was it became his life where he he induced this condition all the infected females would then give birth to infected you know progeny and they would be they wouldn't have any antibodies they wouldn't have any inflammation they look normal but they could get all these other mice sick and they they would look normal only like halfway through their life would start coming down with these wasting diseases cryon diseases slow cryon diseases okay that's like so Alzheimer's diseases like a slow kind of cryon disease right so there's deer all over this country that are suffering through this right now yeah yeah that's true yeah I mean and I would say like

22:17line disease and all these things the immune tolerance is like a chronic wasting disease and all and all true bless it's like and so they they studied this phenomenon and they even had like conferences in 1972 immunological tolerance to microbial antigen so they knew that it was caused by antigen and what our vaccines fall of antigen that's the main ingredient they want to to to get your body to you know put some antibodies for and it's to this antigen well that's why I say like even if they took all of those nasty toxic metals out of the vaccines they still have this problem because it's those it's the main ingredients it's actually much more insidious to the technology itself um but they were they were looking at it like well if we take the immune system out that's a we can call it immunity right if we take the immune system out that's the idea behind using it as a

23:20defense strategy so you can be infected you just don't respond to it but instead it invades your brain all your organs and everything kind of like the covid vaccine with the spike protein yeah um um and that that vaccine has been shown to cause immune tolerance and they were trying to do that but they lied to the people you know and I was telling loftists over email even before the thing was released they said it's not going to work um it's going to be very toxic it's going to cause a lot of destruction um it's going to induce immune tolerance and uh sure enough that's what I was seeing in the hospitals I remember seeing an article the hospitals are filling up with sick people but many don't have covid it's because of these vaccine injuries that and um it's it's it's it's crazy but back to Bill Gates yeah he was funding that paper and so he's been very involved in this

24:22and I think he's one of those enemies that have taken over America yeah I would I would completely agree with that assessment um I tell people all the time look it doesn't matter the vaccine do not take it I don't care the flu shot yeah mmr yeah mmr it does not matter do not take it so you are much more of an expert on this subject than I am would you agree with that do not take any vaccine absolutely wholeheartedly I mean just for I mean even the the fact that they don't check it properly for contaminants like there's so many they have a massive problem with microplasma contamination of vaccines right um there's so many reasons and just knowing what I know of air tribes immunology it's it's and that's what it's doing is so this stuff accumulates as well even from from vaccines your mother took like so a lot of stuff all of this burden tends to start

25:24it's just and that's what Eric Chott was doing with his mice he was degenerating the bloodline he was he was he was turning us into degenerates basically um because what he noticed was the this LCM virus that he was reactivated would pass down generations and as it would pass down cancer would go way up neurological and wasting diseases would go way up and also you get a mental illness component with that because when your brains are affected people people lose their minds people have all these mental problems these neurological problems um and I just did a substack article the other day about the autism link I showed that's definitely there um I you know I I think Andrew Wakefield was was for the most part right but he forgot he he he was focused only on MMR and it's all of them that do it yeah I agree once again um every single one of these is a suspect and you know

26:25I got to point out here as well that then comes in that that horrible partnership literally designed in hell with big pharma so you make the population completely sick depending on pharmaceuticals they're making money handover fist and when we come back from the heart break we got about two minutes so we we're not in a rush here but when we come back from the heart break I want to talk about why they want to sickly and mentally handicapped population but talk about that that that mixture of big pharma and the vaccine industry uh all of this it's all connected right and I that's what I saw was like the vaccine industry in bed with big pharma and a lot of these from the intelligence angles you can see that a lot of these people are seriously shady like coming from places you know out some a lot of like constant in sumacov for example uh I don't make any claims about him but I'm I'm saying you know someone with this kind of uh background should not

27:28be in a position like that yeah I would think putting you know a communist agent in my opinion here up in in the high levels of the FDA would not be a very good idea maybe that's just me it's a huge red flag it's like almost like they are uh just like just basically uh and blatantly doing it in our face to laugh at us or something you know and I think Anthony found you the same goes for him he's probably some kind of while he's also while he's definitely greedy but I think he could also be working for foreign powers and such absolutely I would completely agree we're coming up on that hard break I want to I want to plug the website the sleeperagent.com all right Chris is going to bring that up for the audience here guys um I'm not kidding when I think this may be one of the most important books that you could possibly read I'm gonna highly recommend this I haven't read it yet but I can't wait to get my hands on this book so go check out the sleeperagent.com order this book you're gonna be you're gonna you're gonna have

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30:36uh anyway I wanted to ask our guest why now personally I believe that when it comes to to this situation a sickly population uh it is one that's easy to control I think that's their motivation for why they're doing that to us obviously they have no morals no screw upels about them but I think they want to make us intentionally sick so that they can uh so that they can control us uh Adam would say you yeah I would agree with that um definitely and I also think yeah they want us so sick that we can't put as much time into all this researching and everything and keeping track of what they're doing they want us and that's that's a problem that you know a lot of that's a challenge that even I face like some days I'm so sick I don't want to do anything um and it's like uh it was a slow kill definitely it was a slow and painful kill more or less and I feel oh I feel so bad for a lot of people that ended up sticking themselves with that that new jab

31:40that covid jab and well they can use them right they they can use them you know during the the prime of their life they can use them uh chain them to their desk at the work required done and then when they get to be that age where you know they're they might need some healthcare well then they're going to die off a whole lot quicker I mean from from like a really dark and demented viewpoint like they're being very successful like you almost have to tip their hat to or tip your hat to them there was also this guy who was doing a lot of work about he was saying that there was a covert depopulation agenda going on he wrote a lot of papers about it his name was Kevin Galilai I think it was uh he wrote it he wrote a paper called the subversion I think it was subversion of public health uh let me see what it is hold on I just that the subversion of medicine

32:40in public health by internal security prerogatives and it was written it's it's a very well written paper but in that paper and it's on a research gate that's what I found it um he's talking he's saying that I was you know high up in the system and and they have a depopulation agenda that they're actively running uh he says that their aims were good but their means were terrible like just totally a moral um diabolically you could say absolutely it's like as diabolical as you can get and you know Jonas all you got to do and the way I verified that was go read go read Jonas Alch's book survival of the wisest look how he talks in that book this is the guy that was this is the guy that designed the inactive holio vaccine an activated polio vaccine he's writing a book about how the population is too big I don't know if you've read that but um I have a copy of it here and he's talking and I actually

33:43quoted it at the end of my book I quoted from it because it was so horrifying he's basically saying that scientific advancements that keep life going for people need to be stopped because of overpopulation right I could even tell you the quote he says a major threat to this piece is attributed to the increasing size of the human population which in turn is described to successes in science and technology this explanation has evoked an attack upon science and the exploitation of its technology to the development of which are attributed many adverse effects upon the human species and upon other forms of life polluters who be followed a planet affect the quality of life and are regarded as a threat to the present future equilibrium of the species into the planet those who consider themselves on the side of nature and therefore of the human species see others in opposition to both nature and man hence we are to be concerned not only with man's relationship

34:49to nature but man's relationship to himself say if we love the planet and and our people we need to start killing them all I mean and there is and this is this is across all facets like you can see clearly an agenda here to depopulate us I mean the the rise of birth control right that the transgenderism right mutilating people so they'll never be able to have kids the vaccines it's going on yeah and I think yeah I think the hormones are being sabotaged somehow and that's why they feel like women and and that's my theory anyway I mean it's I think it's and probably definitely vaccine related what I mean I've had all of the other all the other stuff too that goes in but the vaccines can definitely disrupt your hormones absolutely I had a guest on here we were talking about the vaccines and the original one actually it had a fetal tissue in it but they chopped it all up because they were afraid that it would attach to the human experiment right that it would attach

35:52to their DNA and the first one was a baby girl and so yeah if you're getting an injection into your body with fragmented DNA and it's attaching to your DNA and you're a man and you're taking on a woman's DNA yeah that could make you feel like a girl yeah that's it that's an interesting take on it too I never thought of that but I mean absolutely there's so many problems with them it's just I was injured by a hep B vaccine in eighth grade I didn't know it until I was researching for my book many years later and I because I had like all of these neurological problems these anxiety disorders I would just get like adrenaline rushes and stuff for no reason and it just had so many problems I never knew it was wrong with me they diagnosed me with ADD after that put me on all these drugs it was crazy and it it sent my life into like a really dark path for a while I was you know I was

36:53able to get free of that one is about 30 but I was reading I was researching for my book and I I find this a hep B vaccine congressional hearing it was saying hepatitis B vaccine is it hurting or helping public health all these parents are coming saying talking about what what you know the hep B vaccine did to their kids and a lot of the stuff it just I knew at that point I knew that that's what it was that that basically sent my life like down the hill after after because I got it because I went to a vacation in Costa Rica and they told my and they told my parents they all you should get the hep B you know they're pushing it down people's roads um yeah it's always the same story even things like even things like tetanus people think they need a tetanus shot after they've already got a scratch if it's already in you what what is generating some antibody is going to do um you could just take you could take antibiotics instead and you wouldn't have that

37:59that's a three-way vaccine too I think that that's the um d-tap is actually I believe what the tetanus shot is but a lot of people get it because they hear the word tetanus shot and they don't realize it's a vaccine exactly yeah well let me ask you this Adam because this has obviously been going on a long time I mean you brought up the the oral polio vaccine um and they claimed that they were able to you know have this massive success but in reality it was the clean water uh don't don't think uh you know the vaccine thank a plumber uh for the for the decline in polio um but I think COVID the COVID vaccine and what we went through actually had a lot of silver linings I talk about this on the show a lot and the biggest silver lining that I've seen is a massive wake up from the general public and where I was once called the conspiracy theorist I'm sure you have been as well now there are a lot more people on our side that are saying I'm not doing this again I'm not taking another vaccine you see this as perhaps the uh the COVID vaccine was a bridge too far yeah uh

39:06and then I mean they've also kind of really sent in a lot of bad information too is like I'm being attacked because I talk about viruses in my book people think there's no viruses anymore but basically what my if you like the stuff about air-trap and immune tolerance and all the stuff I knew explained all of those inconsistencies viruses are basically just biochemicals uh and there was a really nice paper by this guy who put polio virus together just using nucleotide sequences assembled like a chemical um even germs that at the basic level they are biochemicals and so this the no-virus group is you know it's all chemicals and it's all chemicals there are no bio weapons there are no germs and stuff like that and so because this is basically something that happened overnight during COVID it just everybody started saying that I'm glad that I can agree

40:06with them that the vaccines are bad it just it's just a shame because it was like all these people now put the book down when they hear the word virus and it's it's like I think it's wrong I mean I think they're definitely uh established and and through all of the research but it's because people don't know about this immune tolerance thing that makes it look sensible to people like and if I had no idea and I saw the information I would see I would say yeah they have a point you know but the thing is I was already knee deep into this for years and I saw through all of the cracks and I'm like no no that's you know like chemicals for example chemicals don't act the same way and everybody like someone can have a good reaction to it another person can go into an athletic shock over it so there's no uniformity because everybody is unique every everybody is a unique system you're not going to have the same reaction you're not even gonna you know like the

41:10the argument was that the diseases are are it doesn't cause the same exact disease in every person but the problem is it's genetic it's it's everybody's made differently everybody's made unique some people get a fatal reaction some people get the immune tolerance reaction and it's very there's all sorts of there's a lot of stuff converging into this that determines the outcome and so they will not they will not all be uniform but this is something that I've had to address multiple times throughout my after-COVID like it just something that just keeps coming up you you've absolutely nailed that once again you know I'm familiar with that crowd that doesn't believe in viruses or germs and whatnot I believe that our government intentionally releases this information and they've got some talking heads that are that are on the doll that will we'll discuss this stuff it's just like with with conspiracy theories you start going into that right and that shoot the CIA invented the the term conspiracy theorist but you get these people that are talking about like

42:14birds aren't real for example or Australia doesn't exist right like these these are so wild out there but they intentionally put them out there so that anybody who who's questioning you know the collapse of the world trade center or or vaccines that they look ridiculous they can throw them in that same camp of the birds aren't real people yeah and I mean I even stuff stuff like flat earth it's like with all the problems we have on this planet who cares what what earth what the shape of the earth is who cares about that nobody cares we've got all this other stuff going on that's really affecting us you know yeah I would agree with that I've said before on the show like if if the world's flat you know it's not going to wreck my world but you're right there's so many more important things that we could be working on and this is one of those like we've got to get public health what a misnomer right these people are evil it's not see scientists that are experimenting on humanity yeah it's become a way of life for the establishment and uh

43:19yeah it's like when people become awake that's one thing that happens is that they have these two polarized sides they say well yeah everybody knows mainstream media lies now and so if people wake up they're just waking up doing like mainstream media liars and then they go to this side the alternative media and they think that anything that's not mainstream media is basically true and it's like they don't realize that you have to you have to be a researcher you see all these books behind me because I read a lot I have to process information uh I have to look into everything in order to get to know what's really going on because of all the the disinformation that's purposely thrown in you know I always appreciate it when I have a guest with a big library behind them so yeah definitely I encourage people to read all the time yeah it's it's very good for you and your brain keeping it working because you know most people can't even read a book these days I try to stay I try to stay up with it and I try to read every night but sometimes I fall off but uh

44:25I go back to it I always return to it it's something that keeps your brain sharp you know like watching TV and scrolling is scrolling is the worst yeah they want that I I mean I've been guilty of it too I've done it and I'll catch myself and I'm like what am I doing you know yep no I'm with you um we're actually we've run out of time uh so I want to bring up your website again um I can't tell you how much I've appreciated this conversation though it is so good I will definitely have to have you back to talk more about this but the sleeper agent calm uh I'm going to turn it over to you Adam tell people uh what what they can find on this website why they should go to it and why they should order your book yeah so you see you can see the video section those will bring you to my rumble and youtube channel and also those social media icons and also it's not up there but substack is where I continuously released new information like uh I did an article on autism vaccine link on substack and the handle for substack is AW at AW Finnegan FINN and EGAN and that

45:36handle is the same for all of them at x uh Instagram you name it okay and yeah uh I'm gonna tell the audience once again by this book uh get on here I'm assuming you can order it on the website probably amazon as well as I correct yeah trinay.com amazon um yeah that's there's the book yeah I can cover uh it's fantastic I like I said I cannot wait to get my hands on this I'm gonna pour through it I read every night so I can't wait to get this book in my hands um but it is uh oh and there we go Chris found your substack as well right so uh there you go you can uh check that out also if you like to read online I would recommend it uh but adam it has been an absolute pleasure having you on church and state uh yeah I'm gonna time talking thank you yeah and I'm gonna pray certainly that that healing occurs for you uh I know you're going through a lot with the Lyme disease and the uh the immune tolerance so I'll definitely keep you in my prayers there but

46:39thank you so much for not just sitting back and just you know like well I got this now you know like I just wait to die now nope you did something with it you you said I'm gonna go after these people I'm gonna expose them and I so appreciate your work thank you it was a great time I looked coming on here I'd come back anytime you want to have me okay well thank you so much I'm gonna go ahead and close this out if you hold on one more minute post-production to Sarah go by as I'd appreciate it but again thank you for joining us on church estate all right ladies you gentlemen there you go uh once again guys you gotta read these kind of books these are so essential to discovering the truth it is out there all right to to I guess paraphrase x files but the truth is most certainly out there it just requires you to do some studying and I cannot recommend the sleep reagent enough church estate is brought to you in part by colonialized pocan independent agents finders insurance and mark37.com I'm Caleb Collier I was born for a storm welcome to the fire

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