CHRIST AND CAPITAL PUNISHMENT | 4-7-2026

0:01World on fire our culture is disintegrating. Hey, pass the salt. Hey, you pass the salt. You want whites disintegrating because we're jellyfish. Pass the salt, will you? Pass the salt? Pass the salt. Pass the salt and me go. It's time. I think they could give us a new name. I believe we are even jellyfish. Hey, we have passed the salt. Yes, the salt. We need salt over here. It's time for pass the salt. Pass the salt. But we like to share the gospel without any backbone to it, see? The views, opinions, and seemingly outrageous comments expressed in this program are based on the Holy Spirit leading of a man called Coach. I'm going to ask you this out there, Christian America. It's time for pass the salt with a coach, Dave Dobbenmeier. Well, he's a father of deception. You know that. He's the author of confusion, the father of deception. And I just want to confess to you is we get rolling here on the seventh day of April 2000, whatever it is, 26.

1:06How can it be, 2026? What the heck? The deception is absolutely, absolutely overwhelming. I've been up an hour and a half already this morning. And do a lot of research and try to connect dots and this one follows to this one and this one follows to this one. And I just want you to know that the deception out there is so unbelievable. It's so, you can't tell you this, the deception and the argumentation, that's not the right word, the debate within the church is paralyzing us. It's paralyzing us. What I mean by that, you go, just go through the internet, just go Facebook, go wherever you want to. And there are those saying it's the end of times and others saying it's not the end of time that it's saying that it's a Jesus and it's just that it's just absolutely unbelievable confusion. And what is supposed to be God's team? And can I tell you what else? Every one of them think they're right.

2:07Every one of them think they're right. Let me just camp here just a second. I've got some good stuff. What if the theology you're learning in your church is wrong? What if it's wrong? What's the theme here? We told you that and why should you believe him? And I will hope every day when you come here, you are learning to question more, not blindly, except more, question more. Who told you that and why do you believe him? I have a lot of people right now. You guys, you know them, you know, divide and conquer oldest trick in the book. Donald Trump is a good or bad. Do we need to go bomb more? Do we not need to go bomb more? Do we do it for Israel? We're not doing it for Israel. Tucker says this and Candace says that. The confusion is, are you with me? Somebody give me a thumbs up so you know what's going on. And that's why you know that the heart of all of this is the enemy. It's the enemy. We don't understand. Masquerading as an angel of light is what the Bible says.

3:10See the devil doesn't come as a devil. He comes as good. He comes dressed in good clothes. Yeah, he comes Easter bunnies, right? Easter eggs. That glorifies the Lord. Let's get all of our family to go. And let's teach our children about the Easter bunny on resurrection Sunday. Can somebody explain to me how Easter bunny has anything to do with Christ's resurrection? And yet churches are holding Easter egg hunts. Now, why are they doing that? We know why they're doing it. They want to draw people. And I understand that. They want to get the kids in there so that they can hear the gospel. I understand that. Really? Really? Easter egg hunts? Easter egg hunts on resurrection Sunday. If you begin to talk about this tar and Easter and all that. Well, they just can pull you out of that. Out of place. But I try to stay pretty solid, pretty strong here. I'm going to. I got some stuff today that you need to know.

4:10I need to know. I see all the old stuff. And. Hey. Can I tell you something? I ain't convinced that we went to the moon again. I ain't convinced. Sorry. Call me whatever. Call me whatever. Why all of a sudden out of nowhere will go to the moon. When's the last time you heard anybody talk about going to the moon. And I'll set an example on the moon. One of the moon. One lies deception and fear. Oh my lies deception and fear. Oh my. It's hard to find truth in the church that are on the outside of it. All right. I'm going to dive. I'm going to dive in here real quick. Before before we do. I promised our buddy David Arthur that I'd give him a little bit of time here this morning. Don't go away. Even if you don't want to hear what David got to say, it's important to hear what David has to say. But I got some. I got some really, really good stuff going on. I'm counting. Don't go away. Don't go away. Well, I'm going to forget this.

5:10Okay. Tonight at six o'clock Eastern time. I'm hosting for Rob Pugh on the Wisconsin Christian news. With Stuart Rhodes. So if you want to join in and listen to that at six Eastern time. Six Eastern time. Spencer, you're going to get me set up on all that kind of stuff, right? So you're going to take care of me. Somebody. Don't take care of me. But it's great opportunity for us to be able to host that program. I think thank Rob for trusting me enough to give me the opportunity to do that. In David Arthur, I'm thinking maybe I'll do you next week. That might be good to expose next week what's going on. Because we certainly. We certainly don't know what the hell's going on in the training called. Do it. We don't understand that. If you think transgenderism is not of the devil, I don't know what to tell you. I don't know. Is there anything that goes more in the face of God created in the mail? Is there anything that would go in the face of true that truth more than transgenderism? So it's really, really critical that we get into it. Okay. So again, tonight six o'clock Eastern time.

6:11I'm going to be on with them with Stuart Rhodes. Don't go away. Okay. I'm going to step back here for a few minutes. I want you all to see what David Arthur's trying to get done out there. He, say what you want to about David and he and I, we've had our, you know, we've had our talks back and forth, right? He is a freaking atomic bomb as an X training. He's an atomic bomb to that movement, friends. The atomic bomb and I would say this publicly, David, there's a great deal of responsibility on your shoulders, dude. You'd be better to cut off your winger than to fall back into that mess. You with me, man? Yeah, man. Name man. Okay. So floor is yours. So. All right. So we went to, and I wanted to say too about what you were talking about with Easter and Ishtar and all this, right? I actually was trying to talk to somebody at this library event. About the, the spirit of Baphomet, right? The original transgender spirit. And they said, I don't want to hear about that because you, your own people worship Ishtar.

7:13The fertility guy. Is that right? I was just like, wow. So in Christmas, right? Reworship Christmas, which by the way, is the, is the winners equinox, right? Isn't that December 21st? Isn't that Jay, huh? It's all. Yeah. It's all rituals, demonic rituals. And so, so we went out there this weekend to the drag queen story time. And actually, you know what? I'm at all up in Spencer. If you play, uh, play the video a for me. Through David offers on location in position after ready. I'm going to take a quick break. I'll take care of that. Mr. Anderson. And we'll bring David on. Last call with BJ Edwards. Real talk about real life. And we're back. And, uh, we'll bring David Arthur and David David is on, uh, on location. David, how you doing? Good morning, BJ. I'm out here, um, gathered at the backster memorial library today.

8:14Um, in Gorham, Maine, where they are allowing a perverted man in woman face to groomed children. And where you also sadly have unparents sacrificing their children to this cult. And, um, I'm loving the sign behind me that somebody put up and see if I can show that to you. So this is the no queens rally. This is the no queens rally. That's what this is. And, um, you know, it's just said to watch, uh, just watch the parent bring her, her, her child in drag. Into the library. And, um, it's just, it's sad. And it's really sickening to watch them sacrifice their children in this manner. So I just wanted to jump on real quick. Everybody's just starting to gather and just starting to show up. And I got to give a kudos and a shout out to one of the gubernatorial candidates who actually showed up. And he's out here and he's interviewing people, uh, David Jones. So I would just say, uh, that's a plus for him. So that's a plus for him, right? Um, he's, he's the only one that has showed up thus far. So hopefully we'll see other candidates and even national legislators show up.

9:17Um, because if you don't show up, then all you're doing is sacrificing and hurting the babies. And that's the whole goal of this. You know, there's a man. I'm not even going to say his name because it discussed me, but his stage name is really sickening. And parents are bringing their children in there to sit them on the lap of some hyper sexualized perverted man. Um, I mean, my hope is that that man could one day be saved because he's not only forgivable. He's in need of forgiveness. However, in the meantime, uh, until we can actually reach into the flames and Yang came out, we have to stop him and we have to put a stop to these types of events. Yeah, if I profess it allowed us voice in the greatest exposition, the entire word of God, except that very point that the world and Satan are attacking. You'll confess the word of God. How long do you profess it? I remember that. Rages were the battle rages. That's where the battle. Right. And so my only advice before I jump off of here is stand up, speak out and push back. Um, it's time. And if you don't. If you don't stand up and you don't speak out and you don't push back, then. You're just as guilty as those perverted men in there in woman face for not standing up.

10:21You are sacrificing children to perversion and to deviate behaviors. So that's my message. Thank you, BJ, for having me on. Thank you, Mr. Anderson and everybody else. Thank you all so much. I appreciate y'all. And let's just hope that through throughout today's gathering that somebody, especially one of these unparent. And so basically that's that's what was happening. Unparent. Unparent. So an unparent, right? By the way, folks, I just got a new shipment of hats in. You can support past assault ministries and being a witness, get one of our hats. You can get them online. Go ahead, David. Amen. So so unparent and unparent is somebody who takes their child and sacrifices their child to this perversion. Unparent. Sorry. And so and most of them were were were mothers bringing their the one when we got there was she had her her her baby and drag her child and drag. And taking him in to sacrifice them to this to this cold.

11:22So David, hang on a minute, David, folks, you do understand out there when you put your when you put your son your daughter in public school. When they get to let's say sixth grade, that'd be five six years. They probably will never see a male teacher. That's right. Folks, you do understand that that there's that your little sons are being trained by women. Yeah. And if they do see a male teacher, I can tell you what two of my male teachers did to me sometimes so just ask me, but I'd also like to. So maybe spend maybe you can show that picture of the one that was actually per reading stories to drag queens. I think I sent it as just a picture in the second email. But this this this man hyper sexualized man. Goes by the name of let up and last name. D. I. C. K. E. N. Dickens.

12:24Of course, the letter. Letter dick. Yeah. So the manager of the library actually said, well, you know, she changed her name for this event. So in other words, he put letter the queen up there just for this event. But when you look up this man, this is all you see online hyper sexualized adult toys. In libraries in public libraries, sitting in the library and people bringing their children in there to him. And I mean, what's sickening is that what a lot of people need to understand is that any man any man that promotes this pushes this encourages it or protects it is either a pedophile or a petal apologist. There's no middle ground there any man that sacrifices children to this and protects this cult is either a pedophile or a petal apologist.

13:25So people out there understand you lived this lifestyle. You're not just some guy sitting on the outside looking and said, I think this is going on. And I think you were in the middle of this. Exactly, which is why which which is why I was pretty fascinating that nobody there had anything to say to me. All the people that were that were arguing with everybody that was standing up for the truth, they actually avoided any interaction with me. So they figured out I was the same David Arthur that was on the sex offender registry. And that was pretty fantastic that they did figure it out when they did because only one woman had the nerve to come up to me and say, what is your name? I said, it's David, like very matter of fact, like you already know my name. And then she said, can I take a picture of your shirt you absolutely can. And so they had a big sign up that they were holding and it said never a drag queen. And on this sign, they had all these names of conservatives and Republicans who have been accused of sexual harassment or some that maybe have been convicted of sex crimes.

14:40And as soon as they figured out who I was, they removed the sign. They put the sign back in their car because they knew I could destroy that sign because it is a perversion because anyone involved in that cult is either a victim of pedophilia or a pedophile. One or the two, there's there's no there's nothing else. And and Spencer, maybe you could show the the post that the sea, I think it is. So this was a quick post or a response that I got from if you can scroll down from this woman that had her breasts removed, she's trying to be a man. She said, are you legally allowed to be near children? Sorry, but this is a real question. You were near my child yesterday. So she cut off her boobs. Yeah, she thinks you're the pervert, right? Yeah.

15:40And basically my moderator said, man, David has no restrictions. You should be worried about the unregistered sex offender that was closer to children than he should be while wearing women's clothing across dresser craving an audience of children. And you want to question someone who stands up for children and exposes the darkest perversions of the LGBTQ trans queer cult. Wow, there's so many on parents out there. And and so you go to the next picture, Spence, that's actually her. That's actually the woman who messaged me and wants to be a man. You just click on the arrow to the far right and you'll and you'll show her picture Spence. There on the up there down there. There you go. There she is right there. That's her. But you're the pervert, huh? But I'm the perv. Yeah. That's crazy.

16:42But I mean, you know, that's where we're at. And then I just like to sum it up with like, first of all, this is the, and I've said it before, this is the most spirit led. I'll reach that I've ever done for this ministry. And it's lowering all of those who are starving for information in. And it's also shutting up those that are out there trying to promote it. That's the second day of time out here. Okay. So you lived it. What causes it? For me, it was trauma abuse for almost all of the ones that I know it was trauma. It was abuse sexual abuse, mental abuse, physical abuse, disconnect with the same sex parent. Sexualization, the grooming, and which is why now see back in my day, they didn't promote it like they do now. They had to be physically recruited in nowadays. They're raping their minds right in the libraries and in the school was in the classrooms and all of that.

17:45And so I just like to. When I was a kid, David, we called him sissy's. Yeah. Exactly. So I just want to. I'm still sissy's, but now they have a place to hide and transgenderism. And now they have a platform. Yeah. Now they have a platform. They have a platform that protects them because of all of the perverts that are that are in legislation and in the courts and in the judges, roads and all of that. But I'd like to sum it up with if you go to be Spencer with this, this really short clip. This says it all. And thanks for the time. They're talking. Targeting your babies. They're praying on your children. I'm telling you from somebody who has lived it. You do not want your baby. You do not want to confirm a firm promote or allow your baby to get caught up in that transgender, queer, cult nonsense, that indoctrination, that dysphoria, that confusion, that condition, that see it's a condition.

18:47If it's confusion, if it's a condition, if it's a condition, it needs healing, not hormones. It needs, it needs counseling, right? Not puberty blockers, not affirmation. It needs help. I don't care if you believe it or not. When you hear it, you know it's the truth. There's something inside of you. That's why you get so angry. That's why you get so frustrated and shut it off. I'm not going to listen to him. I don't know what he's talking about. That's what the babies need right now. They need reality. They need clarity. Their minds are so fogged up right now. Listen is the gay lesbian straight education network. They'll take care of the babies. Listen is teaching your children that they can be gender queer, that they can be queer, that they can be gender fluid, that they can be polyamorous, that they can be non-binary, which is non-existent. They want your children to be non-existent, right? They want your children to be demisexual. They want your child to think that they can be polysexual. They want your baby and your grandchildren to think that they can be gray asexual. By the way, again, asexual worms are asexual. We are people. We are not worms.

19:47We are human beings. We're not animals. We're not worms. We can't be asexual. It's an impossibility. Okay, we're talking about biology here. You know, if you have dogs always come in male or female, right? And when you take a male dog and you get them neutered and you get them snipped. He's still your male dog. He doesn't change into a female dog. Archeologists for thousands of years have been digging up bodies. They've always been the remains of males or females. Hello. Oh, that's good. That's thanks coach. So thanks for the time, and also just anybody out there that wants to to get involved, i mean. Just please stand up. Speak out. Push back. If we don't. I mean, I was, I was kind of disheartened to see thousands. thousands of posts about this event for the week before Saturday, and then two dozen people show up. And I'm thankful for that. And I've got to tell you who most of those people were traditional Catholics.

20:50Wow. Okay, folks, listen, two things. Those of you who have contact with other podcasters or whatever, you gotta get David on there. Because he is telling us about the transgender movement, but nobody else will tell us. He's a nuclear weapon against him, okay? Number two, number two. Throw him a few bucks. Another guy a few bucks, right? I think he's worthy of it. I think he's fighting a war that hardly anybody else is fighting and taking care of his mom as he's doing that. We support David Arthur here. I went, we're supporting. And I've said this before, yeah, he went down the wrong trail. We trust but verify. And what David Arthur needs is not shunned. He needs more people to hold him accountable. That's what we need to do. Hold him accountable because those urges, whatever those things are, only by the grace of God.

21:51Hey, some of you guys out there know if you could get away with you, go screw some woman. If you could get away with you know you would, you know you would. And so they tell us that you know those, those urges are natural well, whatever, whatever that orientation is. You don't go, it don't go away. You don't go away. So again, we here support David Arthur and I'd suggest you guys can throw some bucks his way. Do it. All right, Dave. Cool. Absolutely. Thanks coach. Thanks everybody. Thank you. Say hi to your mom Jeff. Come on in. You know what's amazing is thinking about this over the weekend because I knew David was going there. I've talked with him. Is we started out with the Easter Bunny. On Easter weekend, then Biden has all them idiots in there at the White House. And now they're doing the drag queen story on Easter weekend and people over. Is how it's just evolved. You said yesterday I told David that yesterday you were talking about the concrete setting up.

22:54How it sets up. Yeah, it's a David. I want to say yesterday morning that the concrete has set up its rock hard. These people have set the concrete for this evil. And I said, you, you are the jackhammer. You're going in at the jackhammer on these two weeks to bust it up. But you know, how many people really want to go do fight that on Easter weekend? They don't. Well, I'm going to call ranks for my kids and blah, blah, blah. I just not only that. How would you like to if let's say that you'd been delivered whatever was you said you were an old drunk and drug. Do you have any idea how hard it would be to show up at a gay pride parade or whatever it's a hey. I used to be one of those and I'm not anymore. You have any idea the opposition. He probably faces when he goes and doesn't. Yeah. Because they're all living the lie, right? They all been convinced that they were born that way. They can't do anything about it. There's this guy coming and say, oh, yes, you can come on. It's pretty amazing.

23:54Yeah. So let's we support David, but we trust him verify. How old are you, David? 53. 53. 53. Mary Beth, come in. Hi, hi, sorry. When David, when you were talking about digging up bones, you know, they're always male and female. So, you know, like the transgender bones that they're going to dig up aren't going to be, you know, the ones that cut their. You know, they're penis off and they're not going to be. On the female. They're still going to be a male. I just making the point that thought it was a good point. Yeah, exactly. I can I can say this that they never actually cut it off. They don't actually ever change their sex. They just mutilate their chance. And so the outies becoming any and the ines become outies. That's all. Yeah. So disgusting view. What's your website? David, I'm sorry.

24:54It was just looking up and I found Amazon. They just put in the chat. Okay. I belong. Amen, right, David? Yeah. I'm on that. What the heck? I'm on it. Never mind. Man. We can't even imagine. It's beyond what we can even imagine and until we come back to the heart of it and understand. At the seat of the serpent. There's what's doing all this stuff. See why would anybody you know. If one of my grandchildren was born with only one eye, I would not go out into the culture and try to get everybody to have one eye. I wouldn't do that, right? I would do everything I could to help my brother Dan, he's passed away, my brother Dan, I'd went on. He lost his arm in an auto accident when he was seven months old, seven months old.

25:59And I think back to my parents, raising my brother Dan, who was a freak, look, I said that in a nice way. He was a freak. What? You didn't see little voices on the one arm, going to first grade and second grade, he was a freak. He was a freak. People looked at him. What happened to your arm, man? It was a freak show, right? He grew up his whole life like that because back then we didn't have manors today, if it happened to my brother Dan, he would be a star because why? Because of all the things he overcame. Because of it. Play baseball, play football, play basketball, hunt and deer, he went fishing. He became a man with one arm, right? He's a star in heaven, coach, he's a star in heaven, no. Anyway, you understand, folks, until we understand how culture determines everything, and I'm not going to understand what's going on. And that's what's happened, what's lightened up, I got some good stuff to get to anyway.

27:04Go ahead, come on in, Jack. Yeah, that Alan Jackson clip that you posted yesterday was so good, wasn't that good? Oh, my word, I've been sharing that. That's one of the things that one can do, share that to everybody in the city. That's how we make an impact, just, I mean, it's a little embarrassing, but that's where we are. David was down there. How far is Augusta from Gorham, David? I think it's probably only like 40 miles. Yeah, it's only about 30, 45 minutes. Yeah. And so I know that there are a number of pastors that are legislators, and they couldn't, they couldn't break away and hold there, no, no, no, I know there's eight, eight Republican people running for governor, and only one of them candidates showed up. Something's radically wrong with this picture. So it's up to us. It's not about pointing the finger and swearing at them.

28:07It's up to us to do something about it. That's right. That's it. And can I just say something to Jack, one of those candidates lives right in Gorham, and he was contacted about the event. Names, name, hoover, hoover, hoover. Oh, and McCarthy, hoover, and notorio candy. Okay, I've talked to Owen. I know him. Yep. Well, let's get out of the main politics. I hope everyone can start yet. Okay. Let me know. Thank you. Thanks. David Jones, David Jones showed up, and I have some issues with David, but boy, that bless him is showed up. You man, amen. Yeah. We have our drive that we ever throw some. Really, you have a snowstorm? Good for you. Good for you. Campo. Okay. Let me switch gears on because it's really, really important. Thanks Dave. Hey, Dave, I got mine on you. Thank you for that.

29:07a lot of people do. All right, all right. Hey, so I'm trying to work through this on my own. I think kind of, I kind of, I kind of argued with myself as whether I should even go here today, but better give me a thumbs up and I'll go there. All right. You know what we need in America? We need the death penalty. We need death penalty. By the way, that was God's idea. You know that, don't you? God's idea was the death penalty. You guys, come on, tell me you know that. It was his idea. That human beings, some of them become so filled with evil that they cannot be rehabilitated. You say what you want to. You get into I'm going to go here in a second. The death penalty is

30:09biblical. It is biblical. Now, let me ask you something. What happened when all of a sudden the death penalty became unconstitutional? I haven't done any research on that. Maybe one of you right now could find out what was the Supreme Court decision that made the death penalty unconstitutional. By the way, the death penalty, the soul that sins it shall die. I got some stuff to show you here this morning. Okay. The death penalty was and is God's plan. In fact, in fact, when they hung him on the cross and the thief on one side of him said, save us. Save us. What are you coming to King? And the other guy said, Hey, this is unjust. Save us. What did Jesus say? We're getting exactly what Jesus said back. We're getting exactly what we deserve. What a great opportunity for Jesus to say, Oh, you're so right. The death penalty is so wrong. Oh, we've got to change

31:14it and do it. No, no, no, no. He says we're getting our justice reports. In fact, the one thief, the one thief understood it. He said, we get we're getting exactly what we're supposed to get. And by the way, remember me when you come into your kingdom. What Jesus say, this day, this day, you're going to be a main paradise. Come on now. Why? Because in this world, we all die. Some sooner than we planned, some later than we planned, but everyone of us is going to die. And there's one way through to heaven, to the next world. Heaven and how, whether we want to believe it or not, there's only one way to get there. And that's to that man hanging on that cross. It's the only way they get through it. And it was a public flogging and a public lynching to say, anybody who wants to come down. I'm dying for whoever wants to. And the greatest thing about the death penalty,

32:15it does two things. Number one, it brings justice to the one who was murdered. It brings justice to the family. And yeah, I know Confucius. So one of those guys said, maybe one of him says, an eye for an eye and tooth for a tooth, we do that. Everybody ends up blind. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. An eye for an eye and a tooth for tooth. And they hung those people publicly. People said, damn, I ain't doing that. I ain't doing that. It was an example. It was an example. And when we don't put people to death through the death penalty, we spit all over the life of the people they know. Jesus Christ never spoke against death. I'm going, I got some stuff to go to. Hang on here. We need to. Did you know Donald Trump's called for public hanging? Did you guys know that? And they call it non-Christian. Why? Why public hanging? Why public lynching?

33:21For the rest of us to be watching, saying, whoop, I ain't doing that. I ain't doing that. So when somebody goes out and molests a little six-year-old boy, they create, they just created a David Arthur, a former David Arthur. And they stole the life and the innocence of that little child and they should forfeit their life. Now here's a good thing. They can receive Christ. They can receive forgiveness. But they have, they have forfeited their right to live in this natural world. Amen. That's the way I see it. That's the way I see it. So the innocent person, the innocent person got, got drowned, killed, molested, whatever. They get no justice, no justice because why? We're so Christian forgiving and loving. So but they hang them on the cross. They lynch them publicly. They get a chance to repent for what they did in this world. Receive Christ and be rewarded in the next.

34:24But they have forfeited their right to be here. That's a death stone. I'm showing you in the Bible. I'll get here in a second, but I want to get some of you in here real quick. Come on in Mark. Yeah. Before you do, I don't send many emails. I understand that sometimes juries get it wrong. I understand that sometimes mistakes are what I understand that sometimes innocent men get convicted. I understand that. But that is the system that we have. Go ahead Mark. Yeah. Now it's just going to mention you're leading back to where I was going to talk about earlier when you were saying, how do we get to this place? How do we get so complacent? All the churches everyone think about the kinds before Noah. What was the government like that allowed everyone to become monetized? You know, what was the government like allowing Noah be in the only righteous man? That's right. Only one. The God had to do it. You're saying he had to bring judgment. The men

35:30wouldn't set up a way to get rid of the evil. Not as fact. Once it was over 50% back to the culture like you were saying. Once the culture accepted the Nephilim technology, that's what's going on now is they've accepted the lie. They've accepted the deception. So now the people who don't believe it think about the times before Noah was just your cycle of our own demise that we do to ourselves coach. And God only has to clean it up. Yeah. So Mark, how about this one? How about this one? Some got to kill somebody and to give him life in prison. I got to pay for that. I got to pay for that. Over and over and over and over. Come on, man. Real justice, right? Real justice. If you see somebody hang, I can't even imagine. If you see somebody hang, you'd be somebody beheaded. Dude, that might scare me back into doing what's right. I don't know about you guys. Remember these guys? I'd say I'll take one more

36:33note on that. God hates the sin that that person did. So don't you think he is happy when he sees justice and that man. He loves justice. I mean, yeah, he loves justice. So why don't we execute justice to make God happy? Yeah. I'm with you, dude. I'm with you, dude. See the church has become so pacified. I'm sorry. There's so we're such pussies. Sorry, girls. We're such pussies. Christians are, man. Come on in there, Adam. Hey, good morning. I've been doing prison ministry for 17 years now. I've been going into the same jail for 17 years. And I don't sugar code anything. And I've had inmates talking to me about the death penalty. And I tell them, look, there are certain things that, bitterly speaking, like rape and murder that the Bible says, you know, the death penalty is justified. It doesn't mean that you can't be forgiven,

37:35but you still have to face the consequences of your actions. Adam, the death penalty was God's idea. Go ahead. Amen. Amen. And so if you're a little children, if you rape women, if you murder people, exactly what you just said before you have forefitted your life. You know, I'll try to forgive you. You can be forgiven, but you're done in this world, buddy. You're done in this world. Amen. Amen. Because David Arthur would tell you, he's carried the scars of that molestation his whole life. And not only that, as he carried those scars, his whole life, who else has he violated on the way? All right. All this serious stuff, Betty. Yes, I am for the death penalty. I've always been for the death penalty. About 25 years, I went to Japan and we went to Tokyo. And while we were walking around in the stores, you never saw a clerk. So we were in there like a half an hour. Nobody around. So I said, what do they do if somebody

38:37would shoplift something? They said, if somebody murders somebody, if they rob somebody or for adultery, it is a public hanging. So I and they had basically zero crimes. I said, that's something we need in the United States. Mercy follows justice, meaning what? Come on now. Mercy follows justice. And what is justice? You take somebody's life. You pay with your own. Then mercy is a big mercy is a big thing. You can receive Christ, the forgiveness of Christ. We believe in heaven and hell. We teach heaven and hell. Hey, you, you, you did something. It's going to cost you your life. Well, dude, I'm sorry. That's the wage of sin is death. However, you can go to heaven. He's still go to heaven because Christ paid that price on that cross. And you can go to heaven. The dude, you are done here. How, how else does somebody who's been murdered, get justice? Well, Coach,

39:46you'll never get justice. No, they probably will never get justice. Probably won't. That's what, if we don't have, if we don't have, I'm all over the place. I got some, I ain't got to where I want to get yet. Go out. Well, I'll step one up. When the child graduates high school, 17, 18, he can choose what military to go into. But he go in for three years, three years, and then come out. And well, as well as 21 years of law enforcement, I believe I for I, you murder somebody, you're home. No, so I couldn't agree with you more except on this. I don't want my son going and fighting unjust wars. I agree. Otherwise, I agree with you better. If I could trust the government, I would say mandatory, Army, Navy, mandatory, if you could trust the government.

40:52But I'll be damned. How many of you lost a friend in Vietnam? How many young guys went over there and got murdered in Vietnam for what? Desert storm got killed for what? So the point is, we don't have godly government. So we can't trust government. That's, that's kind of my, I bet we wouldn't have people in the streets like we have right now with red hair green green hair. You wouldn't be given money to those Muslims, would we? We wouldn't be given on those layering centers, right? Or boring? That's that portion, boom, right, portion, they coerce, make his pair taxes, whether or not you believe it, I'm complicit in every abortion. Why am I complicit? I'm paying for it. So are you? So are you? And you're going to stand before the Lord and he's going to say, wait, why do you guys keep funding that? Why do you keep funding that abortion? You're going to say, well, because I didn't know, you know, I didn't want to stand up and, you know, I didn't want to, I didn't want to make any ways and I didn't,

41:56I didn't want to go to, I didn't want to go to jail. So you protected yourself, let them continue to murder babies. That's the conversation you're going to have with Jesus. Because greater love has no man than this. He laid down his life for those babies. I'm going to flip Benham on here in the next couple of days. I'm going to talk about laying down your life. Very Beth in Jack. And then everybody shut up for walks. I don't get something else in it. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Mary, your hands up. I didn't know if you want to be in an office. Yes. Hey, sorry. If you could put up Ecclesiastes 11, 8, I mean, 8, 11, sorry, 8, 11. So coach. Here's the crafted poem. That's old. This is what you said, coach. Oh, right,

42:57right, right, right. So since you're out there, man, can you pull that up there? Please, Ecclesiastes 11, hmm. Coach, you could just read that 8, 11 and 12. Please, Ecclesiastes, 8, 11 through 13. 11, 13. It just shows your point, coach, because I would have been dead long time ago for adultery. So I'm thankful that we don't hang for adultery, though, you know, but, you know, you call sentence against an evil work is not executed speedily. People in jail for 30 years, are you shitting me? Pardon me. Therefore, the heart of sons and men is fully set in the do evil. They don't care. They don't care. Though a sinner do an evil 100 times, his days will be prolonged. It's surely I know that as well within that fear of God, which fear before him,

43:57but it shall not be well with the wicked. Neither shall he prolong his days. What? Only all, which are a shadow because he fear not before God. Hang, I got more of this stuff. Get into this stuff, folks. Hang, come on in, Jack. But coach, one last thing, God takes, God takes liars. I mean, he killed liars in the Bible too. So, you know, there's good reason for it. God hates all workers of iniquity. Iniquity is doing against his law. Jack, you can't trust the government, because we're not in it. That's what we're going to do is just retake that that territory. And if you've ever traveled to make your point, coach, my wife and I both traveled extensively. She lived in Okinawa for quite a while in the early days. And the reason why nobody had locks on the doors was because people walked around without a hand because they got caught stealing. They had their hand chopped off and it was pretty obvious. I'm not recommending that, but that was pretty obvious. In Grand Cayman, when I was in Grand Cayman, there was not a single

45:01house on that island that had a lock on a window or a lock on the door. One of the girls on one of the other ships stole a car in Georgetown, Grand Cayman. The island's seven miles long. How far was she going to go? She went for a joyride. She got three years hard labor. I'm not talking about making license plate, busting rocks on a jetty with a sledgehammer. Three years hard labor for stealing a car and she couldn't go anywhere with. But nobody had a lock on the door. Amen. Amen. All right, let me grab control my show here again. Okay, because I want to throw some things up that are really, really important here. So what does the point number eight? What does the Bible say about the death penalty? What does it say? What does it say? Because we're Bible believers here aren't we? We're Bible believers. See, we want mercy in front of justice. Mercy follows justice, right? The Old Testament law commanded the death penalty

46:02for various acts. Murder, kidnapping, bestiality, adultery, homosexuality, being a false prophet, prostitution, enraped, and several other crimes. Death penalty. However, God often showed mercy when the death penalty was due. David committed adultery and murder yet God did not demand his life be taken. Ultimately, every sin we commit should result in the death penalty because the wages of sin is death. Thankfully, God demonstrates His love for us in not condemning us. Run these five verse eight. Okay, scrolling down. God be careful because it's going to get softy on us. When the Pharisees brought a woman who's caught in the act of adultery, Jesus asked if she should be stoned. Jesus said, if any of you without sin, that didn't be the first to throw a stoneter. He didn't say, don't throw a stoneter. This should not be used to indicate that Jesus rejected capital punishment. No, it's just Jesus was simply exposing the hypocrisy of the Pharisees.

47:04Don't punish what you do. The Pharisees wanted to trick Jesus into breaking the Old Testament law. They did not truly care about the woman being stoned. By the way, where was the man who's gone adultery with him? God is the one who instituted capital punishment. Whoever sheds man's blood by man his blood shall be shed for in the image of God he made man Genesis 96. Jesus would support capital punishment in some instances. Jesus also demonstrated grace in capital punishment. What do John 811? The Apostle Paul definitely recognized the power of government to institute capital punishment, where appropriate. Romans 13. Pull that up there. Pull up Romans 1. I got it over here, too, by the way. What's Romans? Let every person be subject to the governing of the phoenix. For there is no authority except from God. And those that exist have been instituted by God.

48:05Secondly, we must recognize that God has given the government the authority to determine when capital punishment is due. It is unbiblical to claim that God opposes the death party in all instances. He let his own son be crucified. Christians should never rejoice when the death penalty is employed, but at the same time Christians should not fight against the government right to execute the perpetrators of the worst crimes. If somebody were to rape, I pick anybody up. If somebody in this queue were to get raped, who am I to say that that rape would just forgive it? We'll just forgive it. How the hell can I forget something? Forgive something that was done to somebody else? How can I do that? Justice, justice. They did that. They deserve this. I'm with you. I'm just going to toss this out there because of my own plight.

49:11But as one who was victimized and also was victimized and then became a victimizer. When one abuses another, there's a transference of demonic oppression. I always call it STDs. Sexually transmitted demons. When that oppression causes one to do the same thing that was done to them, does that individual whose trauma response is demonically influenced? Does that individual deserve physical, earthly death? The wages of sin is death, but thank God those wages that are not demanded upon the committing of the act. Because we're all guilty. So I would counter that. I'm not really countering it. I don't know about you guys. There's a lot of things I didn't do because I was afraid my dad was going to whip me on ass. And by saying yes, if my dad finds this out, oh my god. Let me tell you something. Daddy sees.

50:13Daddy sees. Daddy sees. You knew that was wrong. You knew that was wrong. I don't care how many demons got to you knew that was wrong. And the reason people do what is wrong because I am afraid brood. They ain't afraid anymore. Jesus is love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, just love, love, love, love, love, love. And you go out and you rape a little child and Jesus still loves you dudes. Come on. Tell us wrong with us. What's wrong with us? Oh, just one more time, please. So the in the Bible, though, they God, people got killed for different reasons. And there was different punishment for like, you know, because God knows the heart. So he, so people like killed somebody accidentally. They went to the, whatever that, you know, the tones we try to get illegal stand sanctuary. So there was different, you know, like with David, that's it. That's different. God knows that's different. But it's the people

51:14that murder and cold heart like OJ. There is no fear of the Lord in the land. There is no fear of the Lord in the land. God is love. Jesus is love. Jesus loves everybody. And if you say we need some justice and judgment, the church will run y'all. Amen. So my knee, that's what my knee said yesterday, you know, gee, what's the greatest commandment they keep coming at me? Like, I was on that trip. I got so attacked, but God was right there every second. I'm at the it's Jesus's love. He's like, yeah, but he also hates, I said. And then Romans 7, pull it up, our spends. It's good, isn't it? It's good. Let every soul be set to the higher power for there's no power but of God. And the powers that be ordained are of God. And whoever resistes that power, resists the ordinance of God. And they that resists shall receive to descend self-domination. For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to evil. Let me ask you something.

52:15A ruler is a terror to evil today? Hell no, they promoted. Will Thal then not be afraid of the power? Do that, which is good. And people going to praise you. For he is a minister of God to be for good. But if you do that, which is evil, dude, be afraid. You better be afraid. If you do evil, or he beareth not the certain thing. For he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil. That'll preach, wouldn't it? Won't that preach? Right? Why? Because the only way you can get justice, an eye for an eye and a tooth, the only way you can get justice. If somebody in authority says, all right, dude, you did it to them. You get the same damn thing. There's no fear of the Lord. There's no fear of any government. None of it. Okay? That's Romans 13. Hang on. Hang on. Go to Romans 12, or I've got seven minutes here. Romans 12.

53:16I'll be seated there for a breath. Mercy God. You're presented by His living saffers. Hold them. The God is your result. You're not conforming to the swarovians. Come on down. Keep going. Keep going. Keep going. Huh? For I say through that grace given unto you to every man that is among you, not to think more highly of himself than he ought to, but to think silver according to the wrath. For as many have one body, all members have not the same office. So we being many are one body in Christ and one's another. Having then gifts differing according to the graces given to us whether prophesied that is prophesied according to the proportion of faith or ministry web-bub-bub-bub, or he that exalts an eye says, no, I don't have time to get it. Pull that back out there. Pull that back out there. The greatest love you can show is when someone has been murdered, you take the life of the person that I'm sorry. Yes. Yes. That the gospel folks. That is the gospel. Now, why doesn't it work in today? Because the government is corrupt. Of course, Christ has been removed from

54:16the government. And because because there is no standard of right and moral anymore, you're going to put, can I swear a minute, Betty? Can I swear? That's where a minute, Betty. You're going to go to court and you're going to get some dumbass liberal on the court, on the jury. Because we don't have the same values anymore. And jury selection is what? They would, the judge, the lawyer wants to make that he gets some idiot on that trial, the same as, save his client, right? Come on. There's no standard of right wrong. And what they want to do when they do jury selection is they want to make sure that they get the most liberal. I'm okay. You're okay people that they can possibly get on. I will, I'm telling you this is God is my witness. I will never sit on the jury. Because they're going to boot me up. First question. They're going to boot me out because they want to make sure sitting on that jury are non-judgmental sinners. Yes or no? See we're supposed to go sit

55:20in front of a jury of our peers. I'm going to tell you something. An atheist sitting on a jury ain't my peer. He ain't my peer. Sorry. He ain't my peer. In order for him to be a peer, my peer, he has to agree with what I agree with. He has the same value system that I have. Some Muslim ain't my peer. Some atheist ain't my peer. Do you understand? So in other words, you can just sit on the jury just a human being. There's your peer. Some guy living under a tent, living under the rail road. Go get him. He'd be your peer. Come on. Let's see. That's what they've done. That's what they've done. That's what they've done. Why have they done it? Because the church doesn't love justice and judgment. The Lord does. The Lord loves justice and judgment. He doesn't both. How about that? I take a deep breath here. My wife's upstairs. She's going to say, honey, why are you yelling?

56:25I don't yell at her. I don't yell at those people actually. I got four minutes left. I can fill up where you can. Remember, who was that? Go ahead. Hey, keep going. Chad, hey, Chad, I've got six days more worth right here. I've got six days left. And can you believe? I want something wherever it happened to me and I go get on the trial. I'm going to jury of Christian men and women. Born again, spirit filled Christian men and women as my peers. Some dude downstairs that goes bowling and gets drunk and drives home. He ain't my peer folks. He ain't my peer. We don't have the same value system. I want somebody sitting on that jury that understands justice and judgment and mercy and grace. We don't get that. That's why we

57:26see the wicked rule. And they said there's no religious test. No religious test to hold public office. That's why we got what we got in Congress. There is no religious test. By the way, religion, Spencer pull that up there real quickly. Webster, what is religion? A France, France, France, which come on, come on, come on. Shake your head. Shake your head. Religion doesn't mean Christianity. That mean what? Religion in its most comprehensive sense includes a belief in the being imperfections of God and the revelation of his will to man. The man's obligation to obey his commands. That's religion. That's religion. Not Methodist Lutheran. Back to church of God, church of God in Christ church. No, no, no. What? The man's obligation to obey his commands. States of reward and punishment. Man is accountability. If you go to court, if you're going to be on a jury today and you, they find out you are Christian,

58:32chances are pretty good. They're near ass off. I'd be a boon, Vinnie. I'd be a boon. And so we end up going and sitting before ungodly people who are passing judgment over us. Quickly, Dr. Paul, come on in. It's God, Shire, and knows that best, right, coach? I see that. That's what it does. You did not get justice whatsoever because they threw the Christianity stuff at him. It was horrible. I can promise you, the guy sitting on the jury weren't Christians. Not Bible-believing Christians. So you're going to get... I want to face God after I don't get justice here because when he goes out there, he's coming right back down. Well, hey, Paul, they don't want to give you justice either. They don't want to give you justice. You think those courts aren't influenced by money and authority and people... Come on, come on. Well, why is that happen? Because we threw God out of public schools and we chate... We have trained a bunch of quasi atheists.

59:34That's what we're doing. See you tomorrow.