Chris Hand: Remembering a leader, a hard worker and a friend

0:00Now today we're just remembering Charlie Kirk. There's a lot of other stuff going on that we might, I mean, we might dabble in here as the show continues. But really, I just want to just want to honor my boss. And I think that I think it's fitting that there is a generation of Americans growing up today that 910 is more significant than 911. I know. It's a wild thing to say. Tomorrow is the 25th anniversary of 911 living through both of those. I understand the gravity of both of those. But there's a lot of young guys that are coming of age right now that weren't alive when 911 happened. And a lot of those guys heard the message of conservatism, patriotism, the message of Jesus for the first time from Charlie Kirk, which is just crazy. So I

1:10want to be able to spend a good amount of time on this. And I have some of Charlie's best clips that we'll get to. We got his message to men, his message to women. I got a lot of clips loaded up. But I also want to give you the floor as well. If you want to add anything to the conversation, 615, 737, 99, 86. Let's go to Ray and Knoxville. What's up, Ray? How you doing, Mr. Chris? Good, sir. How are you? I'm doing good. I just want to take a moment and say that Charlie Kirk to me was. He was more like a teacher, a mentor, a guy that you felt down to earth with. And he's going to direct you in the right path. He's not going to just tell you something and it not be the truth. You can believe of what he said. And I just want to say that, you know, Charlie to me meant a lot. It was devastating for me when I found out that he was shot and killed. And I just know that he's up in heaven right now looking down and he doesn't have to

2:12worry about anything else except living for Jesus constantly. And I know his word is being spread out everywhere. So he knows that everybody's going to know and hear the word of God. And I want I want to also tell you that I love you, brother, because you're a Christian man. You have faith in God and I'm so happy for that. I love you too, man. And I appreciate the call right. Thank you so much. You kind of lean into a point I made earlier that Charlie was the one guy in the conservative movement who could speak with a room full of students and a room full of the Trump administration in the same day, the same afternoon and belong to both rooms, not being outsider in either room. And when you look around at the conservative movement today, there's nobody that can fill that void. There just really isn't a lot of young men, a lot of a lot of older guys. We all kind of feel the same

3:12way about about Charlie Kirk. And this is this is a clip that's been going viral once again on Charlie. I'm just flesh and bone, but more importantly, I'm a soul. And that soul is accountable to one being. I mean, I've had an unbelievably blessed life, uh, been doing this now. It'll be 12 years on June 5th. Such a young man to do it. Yeah, so praise God. I mean, I've been all across the world. I've met with world leaders, a flown in Air Force one, got to know a president. I have an amazing family. The podcast, 20.0, say all that stuff. And so you experience that and you're like, what actually matters? What matters is your relationship with the divine, your relationship with your family, your kids, and maybe a close collection of friends and your relationship with the truth. That's what matters. Everything else is fake. Everything. And I've said it before on the show, it's like you got to, you have to identify with things that people can't take away from you. And it kind of leans into exactly what Charlie just said there.

4:17Nobody can take away my relationship with Jesus. Nobody can take away my relationship with my wife. Nobody can take away my relationship with my children. Everything else is fake. Nothing else matters. But Charlie spoke these hard truths and he spoke them to young men and he spoke them to young women in a way that nobody else was willing to do. I mean, he was, he was a part-time politician, part-time pastor, part-time older brother. And he delivered the truth in a way that nobody else was doing. This is why so many young men gravitated to him. I mean, he had, there was a lot of times where I was able to be in the room with Charlie while he was giving these speeches. And you know, I'm in my 30s and I'm in a room with 17-year-olds and I'm listening to him and I'm like, I wonder who's getting more out of this. Is it the young guy over there? Is it me? And I always felt like it was me. But he had a lot of good messages for young men.

5:20Men, let's be honest, we got to raise our game in this culture. We're constantly around one. They say, I'll just go place another bet on this running back to run a hundred yards. Just go to the cannabis dispensary and medicate yourself. That's all a bunch of BS. Go look to your grandfather's generation at Storm Normandy Beach. They'll built this nation that started big businesses that went on adventure. If the most important thing for you is just feeling good, you're going to end up miserable. But if the most important thing is doing good, you will end up purposeful. That's key. Purpose. Purpose will give you happiness. You see, we live in a country where they think that purpose, where they think that happiness is pleasure. We know that purpose is above all of this, serving God, understanding why we are here, that we are made in this image, that there is a struggle of good versus evil. By the way, you're involved in that struggle every single day on the college campuses. Every day, you get

6:20to fight for what is good and what is true and beautiful. So next time when you're on a college campus, and if you want to be a man, this is what you do. If you want to stay a boy, go and do what your other friends do. But men, say, you know what? No, I'm actually not going to go hook up with a bunch of girls. I'm going to save myself for marriage. Actually, I'm not going to go do that. But if you want to go be a boy, go do that. It takes no skill and no talent and no self-restraint whatsoever just to follow your flesh. An animal can do that. A dog can do that. You know what mature people do? Mature people say no to what feels good and they pursue what is good. And far too often on college campuses, we have these grown boys. And I'm talking to a lot of you in this audience and it's time for you guys to up your game. It's time for you guys to stop doing just what feels good all the time. Oh yeah, we're just going to go get, you know, blackout drunk till 2 a.m. and hook up with some stranger. No, no, no. If you want to stay in the lower standard, a miserable cycle of debt and suffering and depression, lack of community, go do that. Instead,

7:20on a Saturday night, say, you know what? I'm going to hang out with some friends that are not going to drink, are not going to engage with this stuff. And then maybe on Sunday morning, I'm going to go to church or I'm going to go to mass and then I'm going to go work out and then I'm going to study who will be happier. You know, I'm right. He is. He's 100% right. Who's going to be happier after all of that? I mean, I don't think it, I don't think your kids are too young to start pushing this wisdom on them. My son is eight and we talk about it all the time. We talk about all this stuff all the time. It's a Brooks. If you really want to accomplish your goals, how are you going to do it? Are you going to do it by being lazy and goofing off? Are you going to do it by working at it every single day? I was talking with Josh yesterday. Josh T. Vaux, who's been on the show a bunch, seen a director returning point. And it's like Charlie didn't become Charlie overnight. Like Charlie was brilliant. Make no mistake about it. He was brilliant at 18. He had a vision at 18. But like the later years, Charlie,

8:26that we see is the direct result of making the right choice again and again and again and again over years and watching that compound. That doesn't happen overnight. So you need to you need to deliver that truth to your boys. It's if there's there's no easy way to success. Charlie did not happen overnight. Happened by making correct choice after correct choice after correct choice. And this is the wisdom that he was trying to put on young men. He wasn't just pushing a narrative about politics. He was pushing eternal truths. He was pushing them towards Jesus. That's key. Absolutely key. I mean, he spoke to young women just as blunt, just as truthful. This is a message that he had for young women. I mean, I guess you could probably take away this also a message for young men. Women want to be able, they want to be taken care of. I know this like super provocative, but deep down they want a man to be able to provide for them financially.

9:30Should a man pay on the first day? 100%. Like what kind of a worst beta male is splitting the check? Like who are you? It's like, I'm just sorry. It's so I would go to debt and like scrub dishes before a woman's case. I split the check quite a lot. So I'm sorry. I don't need to offend you. You guys are great. That's incomprehensible to me. I think that's to me. I thought it was a great financial decision. Okay. So from your present, I totally get that. And like you have a really good financial discipline. I'm sorry. Like I would be so humiliated. If I'm not to be like the greatest beta male, like humiliation, to say money to no, no, to like the idea that a woman that you're trying to court. Now, if it's like a friend, as a first day, you don't even know if it's like a wall. I'm sorry. I see. By the way, that money you save is not worth the honor that you compromise. It's such a big deal. It's a massive deal.

10:30The money you save is not worth the honor that you compromise. I mean, it's clip after clip after clip. You're going to see all of these today all over the internet and rightfully so the guy left behind an unbelievable legacy. He will truly, truly be missed. There's just tribute after tribute rolling out about him. And again, rightfully so, what he was able to do in a short 31 years, it is unbelievable. And to have been able to play a small role in his organization, again, honor of a lifetime, something I'll never forget. When I was leaving Turning Point, I was talking with my wife. And I didn't leave because I was unhappy. I left because I felt like I needed to put my focus and my efforts into this here, not double time it on this. I mean, there was a time

11:32when what I was doing at Turning Point and what I was doing here was really swimming in the same direction. And as that started to separate a little bit, I was like, okay, I kind of have to pick one. You know, and it was obviously this. I wouldn't want to give this up. This is that being able to host the show on WTN is also an honor of a lifetime. Make no mistake about it. But I remember talking with my wife and I was like, I will walk away from this knowing we did something really, really special. And being a part of Turning Point just through the election of Donald Trump and through that campaign season. And at the same time, you know, having these conversations in the back knowing if we lose the FBI is probably going to raid all of our houses, you know, it's a crazy thing to be a part of. And when I was when I was walking away, I was like, man, I love these guys. And it was an honor. And I said to my wife, I was like, the more I get away from this, the more special it's going to be. And I had no idea how heavy that statement would be.

12:43But today, as I'm sitting here a year removed from the assassination of a guy I looked up to, a guy that was younger than me that I wanted to be when I grew up. My boss, that statement is even more true. It's 10, 19 on Super Talk. How do you want to be remembered? If I die, everything just goes away. How would you, if you could be associated with one thing? How would you want to be remembered? I want to be remembered for courage from my faith. That would be the most important thing. Most important thing is my faith. What we are fighting is a spiritual battle. This is a spiritual sickness throughout the West. And if you're here and you don't believe in God, okay, fine, I'll pray for you. And I hope you find Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior because it will change your life. But understand, you should even be cheering for a religious revival. You get the worst ideas when you have secularism. Men give birth. No borders.

13:48America's a terrible country. These things, these things are almost all outroads of secularism. With this generation, you guys want something deeper. You want something more. We are in we are in dare I say, a turning point. We are in a place where decisions need to be made. A time for choosing. And our leaders in DC better start to get the memo. Because there is a movement coming understand what you are living through. You're living through a new American run of songs. But never underestimate the will of the American people and the sovereignty of God towards righteous and good purposes. We are in the driver's seat and that comes with a lot of obligation. We are the cultural force. We are ascendant. The bad guys are scattered confused and afraid and they will be back. God gave us a reprieve so that we can reload. That we can lean in. And that we can make the conservative women stronger than ever before. This is the greatest country ever to

14:51exist in the history of the world. And I can say, wow, there was a debate. He is God done with this country. Now I can say confidently, no, God has not done with America. And our best days are ahead. Thank you, everybody. God bless you all. We've been talking about Charlie. September 10th, a day that I will absolutely never forget. A lot of people feel the exact same way. You're welcome to join the conversation. 615 737 99 86. This is something I was going through last night. Again, I'm looking at all these Charlie clips. And this is one that stood out to me. The simplest way to save the country. Oh, hang on one second. Here we go. You want to know how we save the country? We raise more good people. If we raise more good people than bad people, more righteous people, people that love the Lord and love liberty and love our nation, then we win. It's simple math.

15:55Simple as raise more good people, have more babies, get married, build a life that you're proud of, teach your kids about Jesus. That's how we do it. That's how it's simple math. And here's the thing. The Islamists that are trying to take over this country understand that. Why don't we? We've been so propagandized in this country that children are a burden that we are we're going to miss out on all these great things. And I'm just here to tell you that is so not true. There is so much joy that comes from having kids. A lot of headaches. I don't want to gloss over it. But every single headache that I've ever had because of my kids has been 100% worth it. If you're a young person out there who's thinking like, now's not the right time. I don't know. Let me save a little more money. I'll tell you this. It's never going to be a perfect time. You're never going to have enough money. Do it anyway. Thank me later. A lot of trolls in the chat today wishing us a happy Kirk of our Surrey. I mean, like, what are we doing? None of this.

17:05This stuff, it doesn't make me upset, right? Like these people understand that. You're booze me nothing. We've seen what makes you cheer. These people are the low of the low. Absolute slime. I just wouldn't I wouldn't pay him any mind. I also wouldn't ban him. It's free speech. Do you know what I mean? Like, is that is that weird? I might tell him to go eff themselves, but I wouldn't I wouldn't ban them up to you. Mace is doing what he's doing. You got to get a clean it up a little bit, I guess. Just a little time out. Think about what you done. Sit in the corner. I'll take the views. What they don't understand is that when you jump in the in the chat and you comment in your amplifying things, you're actually helping us, right? Like everything that you think you're doing to hurt us is actually helping us. Like what you mean for

18:06evil God will use for good. It's biblical, right? Yeah. Weird. Weird how that works. Say it's fine. It's it's it's all good. I got some Charlie clips I want to run through. And there's I mean, there's some good ones. This one. This one means a lot to me personally. It will I'll talk a little bit about what it was like working for for Charlie Kirk. This was a video that they put together the team at turning point. And all of it is taken from private work meetings at our events. So when we would do an event like Young Women's Leadership Summit or America Fest, Charlie would come in first thing in the morning. It'd be 7 a.m. on day one, 7 a.m. on day two, 6 a.m. on day three. And every morning, we would have an all hands on deck staff meeting before the event kicked off. And what you'll hear in this is it's literally Charlie might up at our

19:14staff meetings. And this is I said earlier in the show. One of the best things about him is that he was the same person on the director's calls and the same person at the staff meetings that you heard on his radio show. And I think that's why a lot of people feel like they know him so well because I mean, in a sense, you really did there. I've made this comment before too when I was starting my radio show. I was like, you know, I hadn't done this format before full time. It's like, okay, what do I do? Who do I look to? Where are my North stars? And Charlie was one of the ones I looked to because I was like, okay, I'm not going to be Charlie. But I can be me all the time and be the same me off the air that you see on the air because that's what Charlie does. And then from there, I was like, people will either like me or they won't, but at least it's me. You know, it's that is what it is. And this is another highlight of just how good he was at that. He was always Charlie, even behind the scenes. And this is all the audio that you hear on this or

20:15the video that you'll see. It's all from our staff meetings. All Nation are again on Turning Point. We do the best events in the movement. In fact, we do the only event. Are there any other events in the movement? No, we've got to put everyone else out of business, right? So we are the only standard of excellence. And so we hold ourselves to a higher standard. We don't do mediocre around here. We try to raise the level of excellence because we are constantly trying to push the conservative movement and the country to a place this number has been before. You guys know this. Turning Point USA is the most important organization in the country period. Line me another organization that's been able to move millions of people the way that we have the dusty events that does training.

21:15Nobody does what we do at Turning Point USA, but it starts with all of you. We're building something there than you. Bigger than me. We're building an experience to help save the country. And at this time, the intensity bothers you. Well, then don't go work for Turning Point USA. You can go work for the Department of Labor or something, okay? Because here we do excellent things. We do big things. We make history here at Turning Point USA. It's going to be early mornings. It's going to be late nights, but you all get to know that you're doing something rewarding. That is not just a career you check the box, but lives will be changed. We help less than we get to be here, celebrating the country, and this is our job. It's pretty awesome. There's the one thing that I hear from speakers throughout all the years. Your team is so impressive. And they're so young. Why is it everybody? Because for us, we hold ourselves to a higher standard. This is not just another DC gig. This is about saving us for civilization. We are the most important organization in the country. You are part of it. It's something bigger than all of us.

22:19And it will have ramifications across the country. I'm so thankful for you guys. Have really defined gravity and let's continue to make history here. That was Charlie all the time behind the scenes in the emails. Absolutely intense. But one of the things that was always respected about him is that he was putting in the same amount of work that he was asking of everyone else. If he was asking you to be there early, there was a pretty good chance he was going to be there earlier than you. If he was asking you to stay late, there was a pretty good chance that he was going to be staying there later than you. And the man just hustled nonstop in so many different avenues. I mean, there was turning point action, turning point USA, turning point faith. The guys on Air Force One flying to speak with the president over and over and over again. He reinvented the organization. He kept pushing forward. He pushed people to new levels. Everybody that I worked with,

23:21they were pushed to levels that they didn't think that they could reach. And there were and there were people that couldn't put up with that. There were people that couldn't handle it. And they would be they would be replaced. They would be replaced relatively quickly. I was there when he said that line about the Department of Labor. And we all busted out laughing because it's like, yeah, that's that's exactly right. Go work for them if you can't handle this. It wasn't a regular nine to five. It never was. But it's not what we signed up for. And it was it was special to be a part of. But a lot of people just saw the clips. And the clips don't get me wrong. The clips changed the country. You got 45 seconds to make a case in front of somebody in their phone. And he did it over and over and over again. This one is Charlie on birthright citizenship, which I mean, I think I've made my my case

24:27pretty well known on birthright citizenship. But he's at a tent. Any young man asked him about birthright citizenship. So Charlie, he doesn't pull back, but he doesn't respond in anger. And he doesn't respond. Meedly, he responds with the truth. And of course, it's not loading right now. Twitter might be crashing. It wouldn't shock me if the amount of Charlie content crashed Twitter. While this loads, let's go to Ron and Manchester. What's up, Ron? How are you? I'm doing good. How are you doing, Chris? Good. What do you got? Yeah, I'm going to start off saying thank you for standing up from my order when you do. You know, I never knew Charlie until after his fascination. I'd sing about Charlie when that and then with Bayon, my name. And I got to see Charlie. And he was standing there

25:28for a little smile and say, he's not the Charlie. I haven't even got to meet you before. But do you realize him? He runs? You have cut and changed around after you got vaccinated. So he just smiled real big. He said, yes, I do. He said, I'll see you soon. I woke up, man. It's amazing. That's wild, Ron. I appreciate the call, man. It's a lot of truth in that. He changed a lot of lives. Not just before he was assassinated, but after, I mean, the response after the assassination was something like, I've never seen. I mean, I don't, I think it was Matt Walsh who said, this is like our Martin Luther King, the, the millennials, the Gen Z. I mean, and I say that because I do, I focus on the core turning point audience. But I understand that he far surpassed

26:30that audience. And there's a lot of people in this listening audience that feel the exact same way that Charlie, he was, he was a Martin Luther King-esque figure. He was a thought leader. And when they assassinated Charlie, they assassinated a generation's thought leader. But I didn't, they didn't snuff him out completely. I mean, in his death, he only got bigger. It was, it was Mikey McCoy. He said, when, when a tyrant dies, his rule is over, but when a martyr dies, his rule has just begun. And that line stuck with me. That was at the memorial. I had never truly understood, I mean, I thought I did. But after Charlie, I, I realized, I had never truly understood the stories of the martyrs in the Bible. And how martyrs were used to spread the faith. And I look at Charlie, I'm like, yep, that's what a martyr looks like.

27:34That is a Christian martyr in 2025. And we're still feeling the ripple effects. But the, it does feel like the revival has slowed. And that hurts. It feels like we were really pushing towards something. And it's kind of fallen off a little bit. And I'm not excluding myself. I mean, right after Charlie died, man, I was doing really good. I was reading my vivals. I was doing it every single night. I was trying to be better. And I need to be better. I mean, we all fall short, right? We all fall short of the grace of God. But there was energy there. And I don't think it, I don't think it actually turned into a full revival. It still could. It still could. And I pray that it does. Charlie touched a lot of people. I said earlier, he wasn't just a clip machine. And that's true. But the clips absolutely helped him gain some attention. This is Charlie

28:36on birthright citizenship. My question is about birthright citizenship. I completely understand it. I think I am a little confused, though. How could we get rid of birthright citizenship? If we, yeah, it's a good question. Last time it was heard was in the late 1890s. It was about the children of permanent residents. They've actually not heard a case in the recent times or on the children of illegal aliens. Okay. A permanent resident is something different than an illegal alien. Okay. How could we get rid of birthright citizenship? Just a prem court has to rule on it. If we use the same argument that the child is its own human being with its own human rights for abortion. So you don't have a right to citizenship. You have a right to life. God, so you, you disagree with birthright citizenship? Yes. I do, I do not believe in birthright citizenship. The way that he was able to talk to people without calling the person asking the question and idiot was unbelievable. This guy said Charlie's diversity or strength? His diversity is strength or a weakness in your point of view, weakness.

29:36And could you explain why that is? Well, yeah, think about it. If you're trying to run a sports team, yeah, everyone has a different plan. What about it, right? What do you mean? Well, depends. Do you mean intellectual diversity, racial diversity, philosophical diversity, or cultural diversity? All the above. I think racial diversity is irrelevant. I think that intellectual diversity is interesting and keeps the society vibrant and keeps it on edge. I think cultural diversity can be interesting, but can be a big, big problem. For example, if you import a bunch of people that don't believe in free speech, and that's incompatible with the values of the West. And so I think unity is our strength, not differences being our strength. Classic. Unity needs to be our strength. Charlie Kirk on the trans movement and trans ideology. Eagle are illegal for a 15-year-old to chop off their breasts. I think it should be legal, but that's not a thing. You have to be, you have to be, you have, you have to be. See, that's child butchery. I'm going to care about child butchery. No, I said illegal. I said illegal. I said illegal. I said illegal. I heard legal, didn't you? Yeah. I, I talked about it. I'm on the way. No, I said illegal.

30:37Illegal. Okay. We agree. That's a good point of a great issue. It's not illegal. Here in California, it's legal. It's not correct. Callie Call got her breast chop off at the age of 15 here in the state of California. And she's suing the medical establishment that did that. There are thousands of kids that get their breasts removed here every single year in the state of California. It is not illegal. It's very much legal. Okay. And that is because of the trans zealots. So they are coming into our life. They're in our school system. Do you know that trans identification is going exponentially because it's all over how teachers present themselves? You know Gavin Newsom signed a law that a teacher does not have to report to the parent if a kid thinks they are trans. So it's not just one percent of the population. It's an ever-growing movement because trans people cannot reproduce so they must recruit. So they go after the youth of the country, youth of society, and try to create more trans people. So it's you one thing if they just wanted to live in the hills by themselves. It's fine. Do your own thing. They're actively going into the rest of the world to try to increase their ranks, which is incredibly treacherous and dangerous. Harsh truce delivered so quickly, so succinctly. And he just lets it sit.

31:41Deal with it. It's 10.51. This is Super Talk 99.7 WTN. You are commanded to go do something productive with your life. Wow. To go give and to produce and to risk and to then go so into other people. That is a biblical idea that has made the world a profound and better place.