California once again looking at extending last call to 4AM

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1:03800-222-5222 is telephone number 1-800-222-5222. Well some lawmakers in Sacramento want to change the last call time. Here in California, you can't have an alcoholic beverage served you past 2 o'clock in the morning. There are some places in the country where you can, Las Vegas comes to mind. I think you can do that in New Orleans as well, but they would have bring that right here to California. This is Matt Haney reviving a bill that has died several times. I think Scott Wiener was the original author of something like this. And the idea is if cities want to extend their last call to 4 a.m., well, it's up to you. You can do that. Now as somebody who just recently turned 40, I can't imagine drinking past midnight, let alone drinking past 2 a.m., but sure, let's see what happens. For more, here is Fox 40 in Sacramento.

2:06Yeah, that's right. We know California has a very strict no alcohol sales after 2 a.m. Unless you're at Steve Balmer's private VIP club inside the Intuit dome in Anglewood, where he got a carve out for his one venue. That was a bill that was passed in the legislature. I wonder how many members of the legislature got clipper tickets. Now that goes for us here in Sacramento this season. Now that goes for us here in Sacramento, but all major cities throughout California. And guess what, assembly member Matt Haney says that model. And of course, this is Matt Haney's bill. Matt Haney, the party boy of the assembly who was spending all kinds of campaign cash on fun razors at Niners games. Oh, yeah, that guy takes everything that's not nailed down. Says that model doesn't work for every city and his bill, AB 342, with that local leaders decide what makes sense for them.

3:09In California, the clock strikes 2 a.m. And that's it. No alcohol. Well, usually it for bars at like one o'clock, they stop. Oh, yeah, the lights go on at what, 130? Yeah. No alcohol sales, no matter the event, no matter the city. Assembly member Matt Haney wants to change that with assembly bill 342. If this were to pass, all it would allow for is a place like San Francisco or Sacramento, the city council here in the mayor to decide they want to do it, define the zone where it could even happen and themselves define the businesses who are going to get it. Nobody is going to get it automatically. The bill would have if they do it in San Francisco, they're going to have to create a new neighborhood. It's going to be right next to the Marina and right next to the tenderloin. They're going to call it the riff raff. Who do you think is a bigger party boy, Matt Haney or Ricardo Lara? Oh, that's a really good question. I'm very kind of sketch.

4:09Ricardo. The bill would allow but not require cities to create hospitality zones, likely in downtown areas. No, this is the same thing they say what was going to revive downtown's was the idea of which they already can do hospitality zones where you can open carry your booze from one location to another because the only thing that makes your cocktail better is sipping it through a plastic sippy cup. Yeah, I'm not sure that would enhance my experience. I do not understand the appeal of having to open carry and that's going to suddenly revive downtown's. I don't think 4 a.m. last call is going to revive downtown's. If you want to do it, sure, but don't act like this is going to all of a sudden solve the woes of downtown. Downtown's have a lot of problems that I don't necessarily know if drinking two hours later is going to solve them. Well, and just think about it beer, for example, is a diuretic and makes you go to the bathroom all the time.

5:10We don't have many public restrooms in places like downtown Los Angeles. And if all of a sudden you have a bunch of people running around the streets of downtown LA with full bladders, guess what? They're just going to go wherever, oh boy, likely in downtown areas within those zones select businesses could apply for permits to serve until 4 a.m. but only on Friday, Saturdays and state holidays. Their places that don't shut down at 5 p.m. and the places that shut down at 5 or 6 p.m. are the places that are going to continue to struggle. These would have to approve it by vote and consider public safety, transportation, walkability and whether the area makes sense, culturally and economically. It's funny they mentioned transportation. I very distinctly remember many years ago when LA Metro announced that they were extending service line of the then red line, which is the one that goes through Hollywood until 2 a.m. on the weekends. And that was the day where those trains turned into a nightmare.

6:14They were talking way before the homeless to go over these trains, but I rode one of those into town once to go to a club because I was a single idiot. And I remember all kinds of fist fights going on on the platforms outside of the trains because everyone had a little too much to drink. Yep. When people are all blowing a point to, usually they like to fight. Haney says this bill would intentionally help struggling downtowns. If we can do this in a way where we're intentional, the right zone where it should be, the set of businesses that have these special permits, it can have ripple effect. Okay, I see what they're doing now. They're setting up a scenario where if you want to be able to serve booze past 2 a.m., you have to do what Steve bomber did, which is buy them off. You would need to have special permission, which means you would need to definitely massage the right members of your local city council, your local board of supervisors, maybe even have to go all the way to the assembly. So yes, there definitely is written into this policy a way for local electeds to personally

7:21benefit from the application process. Yep. It creates an entire new industry for them to shake down the set of businesses that have these special permits. It can have, I can't even imagine how much more money could you possibly make opening your serving hours for booze 2 more hours because you know, there's also a lot of damage that gets done in those 2 hours. Yeah, you're not getting 2 more hours at 8 o'clock at night. You're getting between 2 a.m. and 4 a.m. That's the crowd. The set of businesses that have these special permits, it can have ripple effects that help our businesses that are opened during the day, our restaurants, our cafes and people will be so hung over they'll have to go out for breakfast. Might be good for denies. Our restaurants, our cafes and can be a part of a larger revitalization of a downtown. I'm also not totally sure what the target demo is because if you're over 40, you're not drinking past 2 a.m.

8:22And if you're under 30, you don't drink. You go to clubs and you do ecstasy, but young kids don't drink. They don't like it. They like pot and they like X. He also pushes back on safety concerns. In the argument that this is somehow going to lead to more drunk driving is not true when you actually look at the research. There's no evidence of that. But some people, well, it's more about that you'll have the same drunk drivers, but they'll be on the roads at times when early commuters are on the road. Yes. And John, you and I have both done morning radio and you know what those roads are like at 4 a.m. Well, when I worked at KNX, I was the early writer. So my shift started at 3 o'clock in the morning. I actually was writing the news for Frank Motek when he was the anchor doing the weekend morning news over there. And I was living in Orange County at the time and I had to be in Hollywood at Columbia Square.

9:23I had to clock in and I had to be at my desk by 3 a.m. So that meant I left Orange County at 1.45 a.m. And I can't tell you the number of people swerving around the freeways. I had to avoid going to work every single weekend. But some people we spoke with aren't convinced. I honestly don't think that is a good idea because that's this more drunk driving and more accidents, more fights and that's maybe we do this after the way most take over. Well, if no one drove, then yeah, you could make a stronger argument, but many of these people are driving cars because public transit isn't 24 seven. What time do they shut off Bart, for example? Oh, good question. That's not, I don't honestly personally don't think that's a good idea. He has more drunk people, more opportunities to do more hazardous things.

10:23I'm from downtown. I see things. I love the idea while the way that we're going to fix our economy is with more drunks. That's what the state needs because drunks don't cause any kinds of property damage when they're that hammered. He has more drug people, more opportunities to do more hazardous things. I'm from downtown. I see things here every day. And for some business owners, more foot traffic could mean more opportunity. So I'm actually a business owner down here. I own a salon. It is important. Is your salon open at 3 a.m.? Probably not a good idea. No. No, this lady is going to have broken windows. Unless the point of the 3 a.m. salon is that she can help you get the vomit out of your hair. I don't know what the point would be. Yeah. Well, I don't think this woman's doing any b hives at 3 a.m. So I'm actually a business owner down here. I own a salon.

11:24It is important for me for it to be a little more thriving for my own business and other local businesses. If it passes, the decision won't be made in Sacramento alone. It would be made city by city forcing local leaders to weigh economic revitalization against public safety. And again, nothing would change unless the city chooses to opt in with a formal vote and safety and transportation plan in place. The bill is now waiting on action in the Senate committee. And of course, we'll be waiting and watching to see if folks will be able to drink till 4 a.m. In Midtown, covering local news that matter, Cedric Hood box 40 news on I think the point that you highlighted is the most important point here is that these permits would be issued on a case by case basis, which is a huge revenue stream for local elected officials. Yeah, this is an opportunity for people on city councils to shake down bar owners. That's what this is. So once you understand that, it's easy to wrap your head around why they wanted so desperately.

12:28That is the proposal from Matt Haney, their party boy in the assembly who want cities and counties to have the ability to extend last call to 4 a.m. in California. Now I should put this out there that I am someone who if I had it my way would go to bed at 8 o'clock at night every single day. I have to force myself to stay up to 9 or sometimes 10 o'clock at night and it is a struggle. Sometimes I want to go to bed at like 7 o'clock and I really have to fight with myself. But I love booze. I do. I love booze. I like so many different kinds. I like so many different brands. I'm a big fan. I'm no lemonade Lucy. You ever heard that phrase before Randy lemonade Lucy? I have not. She was the first lady who was ultra religious and would not allow booze in the White House.

13:33So she would serve all the dignitaries lemonade and they all hated her for it. And they called her lemonade Lucy. I am not that. However, I do not think that serving people additional alcohol from 2 to 5 a.m. is a good idea for a variety of reasons. One is the state of California is not built like so many vertical cities in the United States. We are not Manhattan. We are not Philadelphia. We are not Boston. Southern California in particular is built horizontally. Very few people live in downtown areas. That's where they go to eat. That's where they go to work. That's where they go for the theater. That's where they go for sporting events. But they don't live there. They live some other place. And there's not reliable public transportation.

14:35But even cities that have transportation, it's not 24 seven. They shut it off at a certain point or they limit the service at a certain point. And because people live in far away areas, if you allow the bars to stay open until 5 a.m., you're going to put people who are legally drunk on the road at the same time that people are commuting in to work. And both of those populations are going to share the freeways at the same time. I know he seems to be of the belief that this is not going to produce any new drugs on the road, but we know that's not true. We know that's not what happens. People are going to leave these bars and they're going to get in their car and they're going to drive home and they're going to be on the freeway with some poor sap who just wants to get to work on time. And you're going to end up with a lot of accidents and a lot of death and a lot of misery.

15:39And I don't know why you would want that. The other thing too is it's not going to attract the crowd that you want. People who are drinking at 3 o'clock in the morning or 4 o'clock in the morning have to be hardcore alcoholics. I can't imagine anyone who's gainfully employed who is continuing to drink for that amount of time at that hour who is not someone who has a problem. So you're going to take downtown areas that are largely ghost towns and you're going to put a lot of alcoholics and pump them up full up booze. So you know what's going to happen when they stumble out of those bars. There's going to be fighting, they're going to break in windows, they're going to be going to the bathroom in public. If I lived in one of those areas or owned a business in one of those areas, I wouldn't

16:40want that going on. Have you ever been to New Orleans? You know what those streets smell like? I've heard stories. Have you seen what the scene is like at 3 o'clock in the morning on those streets? Las Vegas? There's a reason why you go visit there and you never spend more than three nights because if you're around that for more than three nights, you start to lose your mind. That wouldn't be good for California. I realize why they want it. He comes from local government and he realizes that this is a great way for local electeds to raise money where all of these bars are now going to have to be super involved in all of these city races and they're going to have to pony up, campaign contributions and maybe some other things that aren't quite as legal to get what they want.

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20:57number 1 800 2 2 2 5 2 2 2 1 assemblyman wants to make it so that cities can extend their last call to 4 a.m. What say you at 800 2 2 2 5 2 2 2 2 I think it's an awful idea. Let's go to Mark in San Francisco, Mark hello. Hi, how are you doing? Good. You know, I have to agree with you on this. It's such a bad idea for so many reasons. I own property in San Francisco and Long Beach and I'm already tired of power washing all the p-offs of off the sidewalks and around my building. It's just going to create more problems alcohol or cure the city's problems like it would cure the problems of a marriage, you know. You know, I mean, they should really be focusing on things that are going to bring business back to California and that will bring people back and that will they don't need to length

22:02in the hours of these bars and you know, they could lower the state taxes. They could have other businesses come in that aren't necessarily bars, you know, I'm not the bars are the worst businesses to come in, but they're better businesses that you can attract and there are so many other important things that they should be focusing their attention on rather than. All right. Thanks for the call, sir. I appreciate it. Let's go to Mark and Huntington Beach, Mark hello. Yeah. Hey. Yeah. I was going to make a couple comments. One way is I moved to LA County and my friends like, oh, moved to Orange County. It's a lot better and I can't see the difference anymore and nobody told me they moved the border lying up north more or something else happened. I don't know, but it doesn't feel like Huntington Beach. But anyway, I lived in Vegas and worked and you don't want it to be like that.

23:07I mean, it's horrible crime. It was like, I was like a referee for Saturday night at the fight when I did security because there was drunk people all night till eight in the morning walking around and starting fights and vandalizing cars and you don't want it to turn into that. If they really want to help the businesses, they can do a lot of other things like, hey, U.S. taxes and lower rent, things like that, so it's not going to help really. It's just going to make it dangerous. I've got to tell you, I am someone who loves Las Vegas. I go all the time. I like to gamble. I like the restaurants. I do like to drink. I do go to bed early so I'm not up drinking late at night. But just being around that where there are no guardrails at all as is the case in Las Vegas, it just gets to be exhausting. And then when I come home back to California, I feel like, okay, I'm going back to reality.

24:08I can go back to eating vegetables and things like that and doing healthy things. When I'm in Las Vegas, it's just like ice cream for breakfast the whole weekend. Yeah. Yeah. It's like a living in a 24-hour circus if you live there. You get tired of it after a while. All right. Thank you for the call, sir. Let's go to Mitch and Camarillo, Mitch, hello. Good afternoon, gentlemen. Hi there. Hi. Basically, I'm going to have to say, I agree with you, but back when I was a young man, I used to work at the 7 o'clock. I worked at midnight to age shift. We used to have to close the beer lockers at 2 a.m. by law. And we could open them up at 6 a.m. And back then, people worked shifts, and I swear to God, there would be a line out the door waiting for the beer lockers to open up.

25:09They did it. I'm not a business. So well, I guess they can watch their donuts down with it. Maybe. But I mean, they get off work, same as I was, shift working everything. They want to get a beer and they don't have it at home. I mean, you kind of can see, but I'm with you. I don't think they should leave them open 24 hours a day, 2 o'clock, and 2 a.m. That's a cutoff. That's a good enough for me. When you were working the overnight shift at the 7 11, how often would you get robbed? Back then, never. I only had to call the cops one time because the homeless guy came in and he would not get away from the hot dogs. I can't run the hot dog machine. What would it take to get you to work an overnight shift at the 7 11 in Oakland today? Oh, hell no.

26:11Nothing. You could not tell me to do that. Not even on a dare. All right. Thank you for the call, sir. I think you need it. I don't know, baby boy. Yeah. Words got now, I guess. Let's go to Robert and Santa Clara, Robert. Hello. Hey, fellas. Yeah. I'm totally agree with John. You got to have a limit, too. The limit on gambling, too. The limit on the mind. You can wager. It helps to help me. You know, you know, I've worked in the pubs over the years. You got to cut people off. Get a little cool off time. And you know what? The thing that's the right about learning the taxes. And look, Vegas is, you know, they're not curating any terrorism. They're not helping to curate Vegas' classic where you could comp drink cheaper prices. Because of all this, you know, all the inflation doesn't allow anyone to have any discretionary spending to go there and then call loose. And the city that is designed for that. Because it's so jacked up right now, they're not. Whoever the powers of you have taken Camelot and turned it into Scamalot.

27:15And ruined everyone here in the middle class who would have the discretionary spending today. So take the trips to the end casinos. And you've got to have a balance. You've got to have these limits so that these places can thrive as these entertainment areas. They just don't want to curate nothing. And, you know, tourism and wagering and all these, you know, game areas. They take, you know, thought, you know, that allows them to be functional financially for those who operate it. And there's police issues. You're not going to pay a bunch of cops to it. People are out frolicking everywhere. You just have more issues. You've got to pay these guys an arm and a leg with inflation. Because they've got to pay the janitors are on the public door. You know, because of all this inflationary policies. Nucinomics is not working. And hopefully Steve Hilton can correct it. All right. Thank you for the call, Sarah. Let's go to Foster in Laverne. Foster. Hello. Is this John? Yes, sir. John? Is it me? That's me. Fill up. I'm sorry. I'll be the middle of a beer.

28:18And I just got to tell you when I was growing up. We had like four liquor stores and three restaurants that all served alcohol. Excuse me a moment. I got. We doing a bit. Okay. That was the bourbon. The scotch has come a layer of. Anyway, I just wanted to tell you I'm trying to clean up. I had a restaurant next to me about 50, 50 feet down the street. It was a great place. It was a Thai restaurant run by an Iranian and had Mexican cooks. So nobody can accuse me of being non-multi-cultural. But the thing is we need to get it together and stop all this drinking out of here. I'm pregnant now. I'm having a good old time. I'll listen to you guys. Excuse me. I'm having a good time.

29:19And blessings to you. We need to stop all this stuff because my liver. I'll talk about my liver. He broke character for a second. All right. Thank you for the call, sir. Say hi to Brittany Spears for us. It's been a while since someone called into the radio to do a bit. Let's go to Aaron and Tarzana. Aaron, hello. Yeah, I don't know. Like a comedy award or what? I think that was fake. I think he used to work at comedy radio. Right. Yeah. Anyways, no. He can't afford it. People are not going to be able to afford it because all the normal people that are going to be staying at the bar still for a. They're going to have to take ubers, right?

30:21And that's going to cost a. Oh, Aaron. You know, when did happy hours start for you? We, I know. We can't afford. We can't. It's just I think the bars are going to be dead from two to four. Because you're just going to have the people that are. The few people that are going to be able to afford it are going to be there. But it's just not going to, you know, they're going to have to take ubers and all that. I don't think it makes sense at all. And like you said, John, it's not a city that has a delight public transportation. It's not built for. At least in Vegas, you have a bus system 24 hours a day. So if you're a normal person drinking, you just hop in a bus and go back to your hotel or whatnot. But it's comment for it. I don't think so. That idea. All right. Thank you for the call, sir. Are you noticing a theme, Randy, from people who have very strong opinions on when last call should be?

31:25Yeah. And they probably also have a lot of strong opinions on when first call should be. 800-222-5222 is a telephone number 1-800-222-5222. Surprise, Dana Williamson hasn't called in yet. Well, she has to lay off it for a while while the new liver gets settled. How much trouble do you get in if you start drinking again with the new liver? Well, I don't know if they'll give you another one. Because my doctor can get real snippy when I'm not doing something I'm supposed to be doing. I can only imagine how they treat you if they just gave you a new liver. Oh, they probably forced her to take those pills. So when I used to work with a reformed alcoholic, Danny Boniducci, he took pills every day that made it so if he ever drank alcohol, he would get violently ill.

32:28That's what some people have to do. Yeah, that doesn't seem like fun to me. 800-222-5222 is a telephone number 1-800-222-5222. 800-222-5222 is a telephone number. And I just realized, Randy, I'm going to a college basketball game tonight. And I'm already spending all of my time talking to a bunch of drunks. All right, let's go to Roy and Vacaville. Roy, hello. Hey, guys, how you going? Good. So I can't imagine who could make a bigger stupid decision than doing that. You start drinking at 10 o'clock at night at a club or whatever. You got 10, 11 o'clock by two, it's four hours into it. Two more hours. It's six hours of drinking.

33:29You're right. They're going to put people on the road about commuter time. People are going to die. It's the stupidest decision I ever heard. Well, thank you for the call, sir. I appreciate it. Let's go to Kathleen and San Jose, Kathleen. Welcome. Thank you. Hey, I'm sort of with that last guy, except that I think it should be midnight instead of even 2 a.m. You stop at the, when the day ends, you stop, you stop serving liquor and they go home. Now midnight would be an interesting time to cut it off because I would imagine if you talk to people who run a bar between midnight and 2 a.m., I bet you that's when they get all their problems. I bet so. So take away the problems and make them go home. Now midnight is an arbitrary number. I wonder if there's a better way to come up with a number where we can just all agree.

34:31Okay, this is the time when people have had too much to drink and this is when we should cut it off. Randy, do you remember what time it was when that friend of a listener picked Katie Porter up at that bar? That was around 11. Okay, the cutoff should be 11. Okay, I agree. No good decisions come after 11. Only regret. I agree. Good point. All right, thank you for the call. Let's go to Robin San Francisco, Rob Hello. Hey, John, Randy, you guys do a great show. I love listening to you guys, but I obviously think you guys have this whole situation all mixed up and confused. Um, this isn't really about expanding, you know, like you know, laterally, like all drinking hours across the state. 04 AM are returning. This is simply about reversing the ABC's draconian policy of making sure that all alcohol sales inside of entertainment establishments stop at 2 a.m.

35:33And that's why I think that the misconnect is taking place. The ABC has had this standing policy for way too long and all it's done is effective the tourism in California. And to make, you know, California fixed California again, we have to be competitive state with all the other states that don't have such, you know, simplistic yet, you know, policies of when drinking stops and we have to leave it up to the municipalities to control that. And I think that another thing that's being really confused is in order for a venue to continue drinking past 2 a.m. They already have to be licensed to stay open later, which is a really hard thing to obtain to begin with. It's not like every barge is automatically gets this kind of like, you know, don't stop or go and keep drinking till 4 a.m. You know, permission slip, you'd have to like be an after hours establishment. You'd have to be licensed by the city to do so. You have to play registration fees. You've got to pass a load of. Sorry, but you know, there's.

36:34I only have two more dumps left and you already got dumped ones for the R word and once for the S word. So I'm about to have to say no more calls. Wait, you dumped that first one. Yes, you can't say that anymore. Wait, did I say that? My bad. The reality is that the extension of the drinking isn't really a matter of giving bars, you know, a lateral permission to continue. It's about reframing the ABC from imposing a policy that keeps California from being competitive with the rest of the states in the country that do allow, you know, drinking past 2 a.m. And given the drinking is something that is sort of like becoming a lot passé with people. We need more tourism than ever before. All right. And for California not to be competitive on the tourist nature with other states is really hurting the state in general and its economy. Okay, thank you for the call, sir. I'm going to have to cut you off before you use another word that I would love to use, but can't. I can only hit this button four times before it has to rebuild and I've hit it three times this hour already.

37:39You think it has something to do with the topic? Yes, I do. Let's go to Pete and Vacaville. Pete, hello. Hey, how's it going? I found another one from Vacaville. So yeah, I was listening to Roy and this other guy about the draconian measures, but I think that's a cultural thing. You know, Petaluma has a statue. It's a water fountain actually from during the prohibition, prior to the prohibition of abstinence message on there. Talks about drinking water, not alcohol. So we have a history of being a little draconian and very conservative when it comes to alcohol and many other things culturally. But during this time, I've been listening to you guys and remember reminded of the time I spent in Poland and crack out. Specifically the Jewish ghetto back in there. I got a bunch of restaurants and bars. They're happy hour ends while they're drinking hour ends at seven. They close for 30 minutes and open the back up at 730. And I used to see these British stag parties roll in there, the Germans roll in there.

38:44Everybody having a good time singing and drinking all night long. So I really think it's a cultural thing and I don't think California had let alone America is pretty for something like that. 11 o'clock is good. In my opinion, granny was right, nothing ever happens after 9 or 11 o'clock. All right, thank you for the call sir. 7 p.m. That's an interesting cutoff, Randy. There you go. That's for the social hour. You can drink during the wheel of fortune, but that's it. Let's go to Chris in San Francisco. Chris, you have about 45 seconds go. Oh, John, I just want to let you know during the pandemic, my wife went to the San Francisco City Hall. And she had a friend who worked there and she got us some. Open carry permits for alcohol and everything was shut down on Union Street in the Marina. There were no bars, no restaurants open. So we were people were just walking around drinking wine and beer.

39:46And so we applied for these permits and we got half of the few times from the cops. We stopped us with their flashlights and ask, you know, but we just show them our permits and they let us go. And we had to pay 150 for the permits. And there are a lot of people who were pissed because they were like, hey, how can we have to pour out our booze and those people get a drink. And the cops are just telling you guys got to go down to city hall and get permits. You can't just be walking around like this. It's illegal. Sounds like money well spent.