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Hosts Jim DeRogatis and Greg Kot share a fresh batch of songs that deserve more attention- what they call "buried treasures." They also pay tribute to Dolly Parton.
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Featured Songs:
Portraits of Tracy, "Caught In A Jam," Q: From Where Do Our Primal Instincts Originate? A: MTV!, self-released, 2026
The Beatles, "With a Little Help from My Friends," Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band, Parlophone, 1967
Dolly Parton, "Jolene," Jolene, RCA Victor, 1974
Dolly Parton, "9 to 5," 9 to 5 and Odd Jobs, RCA Victor, 1980
Dolly Parton, "Down from Dover," The Fairest of Them All, RCA Victor, 1970
Dolly Parton, "Cash on the Barrelhead," The Grass Is Blue, Sugar Hill and Blue Eye, 1999
Debbie Reynolds and Carleton Carpenter, "Aba Daba Honeymoon," Aba Daba Honeymoon (Single), MGM, 1950
Ado, "Vivarium," Vivarium (Single), Capitol, 2026
Prisoner, "La femme qui s'était faite toute seule," Prisoner, Wicked Cool, 2026
Hemlocke Springs, "Head, Shoulders, Knees and Ankles," The Apple Tree Under The Sea, Good Luck Have Fun, 2025
Nia Archives, "Danger," Emotional Junglist, Hijinxx, 2026
Kelly Hogan, "The Song of the Great Licking," Congressman Davy: A Musical, Plenty Tuff, 2026
St. Divine, "Spit," The Devil You Know, Reel to Reel, 2026
Park Hills Circle, "The Way Up," All of a Sudden, Pravda, 2026
Absolute Grey, "More Walnuts," live at CBGB's 1985, Real Gone , 2026
The Odyssey Cult, "The Yeti's Eyes," Vol. 3, Silver Current, 2026
The Jaws of Brooklyn, "Lie to Me," Unstoppable, Weekend Furlough, 2026
David Porter, "Soul Man," The Classics, Made in Memphis, 2019
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I'm going to give you a few words. I'm going to give you a few words of musical grace. And it's hard to find that depth of love that Dolly Parton has deservedly received. She's got an incredible story. And most people know it by now. What Jim and I are going to attempt to do here is maybe dive into some aspects of her career that perhaps didn't get the attention they deserved in the outpouring that followed her death. She was a very school, incredible level of poverty. And yet she paid it forward. Her philanthropic organization was amazing. Over 200 million books to children to promote the idea of reading. The Dumb-Blonde jokes would trace her. She would create this almost cartonish type of figure. But herself deprecating humor, undercutting all of the... She was in on the joke. She was intentionally. You know, it takes a lot of money and time to look this cheap was one of her lines.
She had many lines about this. I cannot Greg claim to understand the intricacies between first wave feminism, third wave feminism, second wave feminism, which is kind of where Dolly falls. And Gloria Steinem just passed as well too. But both Gloria and Dolly were not in a superficial way. They had looks. And they were not ashamed to be beautiful women. Yeah, also kindred spirits and their attitudes towards what women could and should be. And the other loss that came in the same week with Tim Curry, you know, doing so much for the LGBTQ plus community. And so was Dolly an activist in that realm. Dolly was who she was and she made no apologies about it. Yeah. But make no mistake. She was a feminist. That is true. Before it was kind of a chic thing to be, right? Yes. Especially in country music. Especially in country music. You know, I mean, the controversy that greeted Beyonce recently, right? That has greeted other female country stars we're talking about that we've highlighted on our show.
She was out there telling the stories with incredible empathy of women that just weren't getting told, not only in country music, but in music period. Right. And, you know, I think Bill Friskeck's Warren, who wrote The New York Times Obit and had interviewed Dolly Parton for The New York Times in the past, had an incredible quote, which is one of the aspects of Dolly. I want to highlight. Dolly said, songwriting is my way of channeling my feelings and my thoughts. Not just mine, but things I see. People I care about, my head would explode if I didn't get some of that stuff out there. A lot of wonderful words, a lot of very insightful words, paying tribute to Dolly Parton. I don't think enough about her songwriting. Yeah. Okay. I'm 95. All right. Megasuperhit. All right. Wait a minute. Let's look at the verse there.
Okay. We heard a million times in the tributes. You know, she first tapped out the rhythm on her acrylic nails. Right. And that's the basis of the song that she wrote and blew away Jane Fonda, Lily Tomlin. Listen to these lyrics. Nine of five. They got you where they want you. There's a better life than you think about it. Don't you? It's up rich man's game. No matter what they call it. And you still don't want money and you wanted. Holy cow. Woody Guthrie. Yeah. Never wrote a song that calm me. And Woody Guthrie, if all you heard was, you know, this land is our land, the first verse, and not the other verses, right? And I say communist with sincere sarcasm there. This is an expression of idealism in what the American dream was supposed to be. To men, to women, to rich, to poor. This land is all our land.
And I think really Dolly wrote lyrics on that level. I'm going to give you another example, Greg. And this goes way back in the beginning. She's touring with Porter Wagner. Right. You know, she's his female companion on the TV show. He gives her the start. She has to eventually break away and writes, I will always love you about that relationship. We're driving through Dover, Tennessee, on the tour bus, and this song comes to Dolly down from Dover, 1970. What a tune. First of all, let's talk about the music. You know, this is one of those timeless folk songs that, you know, you would not be surprised to hear started out in the Celtic Islands, right? In the 15th century, right? I think of it like bells of Rhymney, right? This song has just always been with us, right? But it wasn't. Pete Seager wrote bells of Rhymney in 1958. Dolly Parton wrote down from Dover in 1970.
It's just like, how can this melody be so timeless? It sounds like forever. And then the lyrics, wow. I'm not even doing the story justice. But Dolly is talking about a young woman who is pregnant and beginning to show, by a boyfriend, who has taken off. And she is hoping he will come back down from Dover. The child is still born. It is a tragedy. And maybe this baby who chose not to come into the world knew you would be such a lousy father because the boyfriend never does. Right. Back down from Dover. I know this dress somewhere and doesn't hide the secret I have tried conceiving. When he left he promised me that he'd be back by the time it was revealing. The sun behind a cloud discastar crawling shadow or the fields of Clover.
And times running out for me I wish that he would hurry down from Dover. Wow. To get in the head of that woman. And this isn't the only time she did it. The bridge from later in her career is very similar. The depth of storytelling is novelistic. It is incredible. And at the same time she could have a throwoff line like in 9 to 5. I get up and have my cup of ambition. Say the two music critics talking over their second cup of coffee during this taping. Yeah. We're there with you Dolly. We understand. I think it's never going to be said enough what a great songwriter she was. Oh absolutely. I mean, the Nashville establishment wasn't really in favor of a lot of this stuff. Even Porter Wagner was telling you keep writing songs like that. Nobody's going to care about you. And it turns out that's exactly the reason. Establishing this powerful expression of a woman in full in a male dominated songwriting
factory like Nashville. Not to mention a male dominated country. Just because I'm a woman, the bridge, these songs she wrote very early in her career. I love this juxtaposition of coat of many colors followed by a track called Traveling Man. Two sides of what a woman goes through. Amazing juxtaposition there. And it continued throughout her career. You highlight nine to five during her country, polyton phase. That's where some people jump off because they're saying, oh, it's slick. It's country. She was trying to play the game for a while. The part of her career that people miss is that she goes, you know, I'm not, I don't want to keep up with the times anymore. There's a new wave of people that I'm not going to compete with. I'm going to go back to what I do best. The record she made in the last 25 years, there's a lot of really rootsy stuff on there. Her dolly is being dolly again, going back to her early days in the 60s and 70s.
When she was writing these incredibly powerful songs, kind of in a roots, kind of vein, the alms I particularly love are the ones she did in the late 90s and early 2000s. There was a Grammy winning record called Grassis Blue and then the follow up in 2001 called Little Sparrow. Those records are terrific. She's got members of Alice and Kraus' band performing on those records. A real bluegrass stuff. She knows that stuff inside and out. She's returning to her roots in Southern Appalachians. She covers the Louvon brothers on a track from The Grass Is Blue. Louvon brothers were a key part of her upbringing. This brother duo was writing his incredibly hard core powerful songs. I think they influenced her songwriting and her sound early on. The song Cash on the Barrelhead. She covers it on The Grass Is Blue. I went back and listened to the Louvon brothers version. It's obviously a classic.
Dolly doesn't need to apologize to anybody. Her version is pretty hard core bluegrass too. This is a little bit of cash on the barrelhead. Her cover of the Louvon brothers from 1999. He made his point. He said 45 dollars. A 30 days in the joint. That'll be cash on the barrelhead. You can take your choice. Your 21. No money down. No credit plate. No time to chase you. That's a great cover to highlight Greg Dolly, you and the Louvon brothers. The record she made with Emileu Harris and Linda Ronson. Oh my gosh. Two trio records. To cover Neil Young after the gold rush and to make it your own. The most nearly youngest of Neil Young's songs.
That's super moving. She's also does an incredible version of Princess Purple Rain. She's done some amazing stuff in these recent years. I have to say next to Mabus Staples, I've never met a more genuine, lovable, warm-hearted person than Dolly Parton. Of all the artists that we cover. She has that character about it. I talked her about three times. I added one interview with a question. I was doing a series of interviews where I would ask artists, what's your guilty pleasure? I often find I got some interesting answers. They told me a little bit about who they were. A lot of artists would come up with something. Dolly was like, I can't think of anything. I'm really guilty about I'm sorry, Greg. I said, that's okay. And you know, end of conversation. We had a great hour-long conversation. I got a call from a Nashville number the next day. It's not. Hey, Greg, it's Dolly. I was thinking about what you asked me. I couldn't stop thinking about it. I came up with a song and she came up with this song, The Stebie Reynolds, Carleton Carpenter,
1951 Novel To Hit, Abba Dabba Honeymoon. Abba Dabba Dabba Dabba Dabba Dabba Dabba Dabba, Double mean, one thigh, love for you. Abba Dabba Dabba Dabba, one feet, torque, beam, shift. I love you too. Say for the day, that boom, one night in June. Get our reach down, that very soon, Stay well upon their Abba Dabba Honeymoon. And it's a silly song and she says I it comes in my head about three times a year and my husband says will you stop singing that song is driving me nuts? Did she sing it to you on the phone? She did she started singing the song because you know she knew I'm you know I didn't recognize it immediately so she's I got dolly singing on a tape somewhere. Wow and I said I think there you know it's like that you know that's the first time it's ever happened. You know once they get done with the interview they're done with you then they don't talk to you again. I so I think there for the extra effort she says oh it's not a problem as my husband knows I don't discourage easy. I thought what a you know what a great line that's the only part in a nutshell right there now I never had that that privilege of interviewing her but he but did and he but in Cisco who did not agree on much ever that wasn't stick apparently both concluded there was something about this woman you know Roger said to Jean.
I found where he'd written this you know have you ever talked with anybody that you wound up feeling that way about this presence yeah and Jean was like holy cow I can't believe you said that no I have. So when you've been hugged by Mavis Staples you can touch by an angel same thing with Dolly pardon. That's what we think of the great Dolly part and we're going to talk more about her on the show in the future with a more in depth tribute but as always we want to hear from you. Leave us a voice message on our website sounddependence.org with your thoughts about Dolly when we return we'll share some new buried treasures recent discoveries we think you should hear coming up on sound dependence. Sound dependence is sponsored by Quince you know those pieces in your closet that you find yourself wearing all the time the sweater that goes with everything the perfect pair of pants or the tea you somehow always reach for first those are the pieces that make getting dressed easy and that's what Quince does best.
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That's q-u-i-n-c-e.com slash sound ops. And we're back time for our latest buried treasures Jim you're going to start us off. I am Greg and you know treasures come to us in many ways we repeat this all the time. We're reading about acts that have approached us you know hey Jim Greg listen to what I'm doing right and social media right people who are friends of ours saying they've discovered things. I am going to start out with two buried treasures that some people may not say they say hey those aren't buried Jim they've got about a bazillion followers each on tiktok or the viral platform of your choice. However I don't think their household names and both of these that I'm going to talk about first in my picks came to me via friends and social media saying man my daughter my young and drag me to this concert and I couldn't believe what I saw.
The first one Greg goes by the name of Ado that's how I'm going to pronounce it a deal her latest single Viverium. One interesting story this is a Japanese singer J pop who started out at the age of 17 she's now 24 has never shown her face the images have all been like video game avatars and the videos have been you know we sort of see a side profile for the first time with this single but not even still her face. And a friend on social media had written that their 11 year old daughter drag them all the way from New York to Chicago to see Ado perform here recently and there's this kind of anti idol thing happening with the J pop stars where they're not showing their images so it's not traditional pop in the sense of like BTS just right filled soldier field here right everybody knows those faces and those boys.
So this isn't like that and then also the music is different this is like prog rock in some way this is this is partly like B part or Zappa does you know contemporary dance pop and it doesn't sound like anything else I've heard and I'm really curious to see what other listeners to sound opinions are thinking of this here is Ado with Viverium.
Viverium by Ado that is a weird track to have a bazillion tick tock likes your description kind of aligns with what I was thinking when I heard the track I previewed some of your picks here and I wrote this down math rock meets arena pop yeah it's just this insane combination of that like you never see these two things together the sort of frantic arrangement I go what is this this you know some some hardcore dude band playing math rock. It's this arena pop kind of queen from Japan it's unbelievable interesting pick to save the least Jim usually I would have saved this for like the end of the year when you do your mix tape I do like pop right so we didn't talk about but this was so weird and wonderful I had a share it now yeah she's she's big and more than just Japan I think the band I wanted to start with is and they've sort of been a sound tracking my summer so far prisoner.
This man from France I the single intrigued me that the album is pretty darn darn good to it self title debut from this French band. The track that I've been playing to death and I'm not even going to try to book your title I was wondering what you do with this French my French socks but the translation is the self made woman. And this band is a is a sex that it has a woman who is the lead vocalist Suzanne Pomerale she's she's a pistol kind of like a wild cat you know she's delivering these wordless vocal hooks that she ties in very nicely with what this band is trying to do here they they're sort of a garage psych a little bit of surf twang in the guitar playing and what kills me as you know Jim I love my far fees. Yes that far fees are riff in this song just like okay give me that. Give me Suzanne on the lead vocal I am I am having a great time how deep did you think I'm always reluctant to see far Fisa because it could have been like a box it could have been I could have been I tried to find the or it could have been a box it sounded a little far Fisa E to me.
Okay so I'm not really garage trash like a little portable organ. Yeah I got it. And it's got that in in built trashiness. I love it as well. It's catchy as hell. This is prisoner the self made woman Google it folks and you'll find the French translation and you'll find it on your streaming service near you or better yet. Buy it from the band. Oh I'm a show by my mind.
That is the self made woman from prisoner on sound opinions. All right Greg I'm going to another viral sensation with the kids this one a long time listener Brendan Diamond who is always posting things to keep you and me honest letting us know when we've screwed up you know. Brendan was fairly complimentary with of my mid year best but he has said you know you missed one this artist hemlock springs the apple tree under the sea. I think it's up my alley is what he was saying this weird psychedelic quality Brendan is still in my debt forever for turning him on the flimming lips a long time ago. He said you got to check out head shoulders knees and ankles I did what a weird song what a wonderful song what a weird and wonderful artist. Isime Naomi Udu records as hemlock springs okay.
The story goes back to when she was studying medicine post grad at Dartmouth and begins recording synth pop for yucks in her dorm room and releases some online and it takes off this young woman who grew up a child of Nigerian immigrants in in in Rowley North Carolina. I don't know if she now has her like if she's an official doctor hemlock springs but but he's still making music and releasing it online and this first full length album just came out in February the apple tree under the sea again like that auto track this is this is prog rock psychedelic. A little bit of show tune stuff happening in there which I usually don't like but comes at this weird coda at the end and and man this is a genre that refuses to be pigeonholed in any way shape or form and the kids are absolutely the kids I mean the kids you know it's not a word you and I go to but I have never once watched anything on tick talk I don't know about you right I just I just refuse because even if it's not the same thing.
I just refuse because even if it's there I can then stream it from 10 other places I just don't want to bother with tick I don't know she is huge she's being celebrated and whenever music this weird is getting that popular I think it can help up you and you and thing here is hemlock springs. I wonder who's around with the lights and the fighting all the tension in her head she'll wonder why from the garden of the 10 to the neighbor's corners of your bed like the I've been watching her from somewhere where I know I can't be seen she's the one thing stranger now he has such a big girl. He has a big baby. And shoulders knees and ankles I always want to say head shoulders knees and toes knees and toes.
I mean it's that weird there's this weird child like playfulness strange dance pop bizarnas. Yeah I mean you've been drinking a lot of coffee based on your first couple of selections here Jim this hemlock springs is like man. I don't need a caffeine burst I just need to listen to her. Well you would say that it's dance pop except I think if you try to move to this you're going to hurt yourself. I like the rubbery nose in her voice too like she's all over the map in terms of it's growling chirping you know she's got this almost cartoony voice and then that neo opera thing at the end you got like show tunes. You're wearing that kind of blew me away. Yeah I kind of dug that. So you have to be recording this like DIY fashion. Yeah it was pretty cool. So my next pick sort of ties in with that a little bit. Nia archives. She is a British record producer DJ singer and songwriter third generation. Brit who of Caribbean heritage. She was a little too young to have come up during the first iteration of what became known as jungle or drum and bass music in England during the 90s.
So that that that that that sounds sort of became a big deal for a number of years goldian people like that were doing it. She came up and that sound is still percolating in the clubs. She's doing her own version of that sound underneath what she's doing vocally. What I like about what she's doing here on her two albums. She's a new album in a couple years ago called science is loud and the new record is called emotional jungles. You know got a dramatic but I think she's putting a sense of pop song structure and soul on top of these kind of these club beats these drum and bass beats. And here's a good example of that. It's called danger from neo archives. I'm sound of paintings. That's neo archives from England with a track called danger.
Good stuff Mr. Scott. Okay I'm going to play a track by our friend Kelly Hogan friend of the show been on sound opinions many times. But how this project escaped me I don't know if you will recall a couple of weeks ago I was doing a desert island jukebox bonus pick on the Davey Crocket song. Yeah by the headcoats right and you know I'm in alamo buff a history buff and that prompted an email. Hey jam you got to write about this right apparently in recent months there has been a musical theater attempt to launch something called congressman Davey. The music yeah which focuses on David Crockets time in the US House of Representatives served three terms. It felt he'd been repudiated by the people of Tennessee and was angry about that and said if you don't want me.
If you're telling me to go to hell then I'll just assume go to Texas. That didn't work out so well winds up at the Alamo no more David Crocket. Okay so Robbie folks Nora O'Connor John Langford Sally Tim's Gerald Dowd Bethany Thomas we are talking the the gold star list of Chicago's insurgent country underground country. They've all contributed songs the tell the book tells the story of congressman Crocket. And you know I don't think it's actually I think that the playwright and the songwriter have been trying to get this launched but there is streaming audio of all these songs already. I love this song the song of the great licking that Kelly Hogan sings I think Nora O'Connor and Sally Tim's are on backing book. I know the story was Crocket had said I'm half horse and half alligator.
He was a master of myth making right. My father can lick any man and can tucky but I can lick my father right. And this song is used in this play which I'm fascinated I would did high generally anti musical but this one I think I would go to see if it gets staged. It comes at you know Crocket was not a good loser didn't like losing his seat in congress and and so it wasn't true that he could lick anybody he got licked goes and off the Texas anyway talk about weird you know I'm talking one minute about the British girl group paying homage to David Crocket and then here's this thing in our backyard. So I bother with the elections if you never pick up my dis welty all the best burn him up for you tell me no elections ever when the bad of the ball to surely there's been an error or a swindle in the counter to not proceed to make the song of the great licking from the congressman
David musical that was Kelly hogan well I got to say I did know about that and it was actually on my list of things I was considering for a very treasure even the and the last iteration of this. It's the two people behind this production is Dean Schlabowski who we know from the wake o'brothers right okay and then the other is Richard burn who had a number of years as a St. Louis music critic and I interviewed him for my will co book and Richard reached out to me it said hey I'm working on this thing and I looked at the guest list of vocalists and I go I hate musicals generally but this you've got that you got some of the best singers in the world you know from most mostly from Chicago so definitely a worthwhile project and I think you picked one of the one of the keepers from this record so I heads off to this weird project yeah that that nonetheless has has quite a bit of merit and I hope the guys have some success getting this off the ground.
I want to go to a group that I've been championing on the show in the past Saint divine they've got a they finally got a debut album out they had an EP out last year that I highlighted and the new record is called the devil you know I love the title of the record I think they're great it's basically a duo a will crox and in Judy and knock and I love the musical dialogue between these two singers I mean it reminds me so much of X you know a little bit of Nick came duetting with PJ Harvey on Henry Lee those kind of things you know I love these though and we've done those some male female female beauty and beast duets right on the show they're kind of it's a sound that I really like it can it can be horrible but these guys are great at I think they're the given take between Judy and Will really makes it for me and they've got some real spirit in the music as well here's a track from the new album called spit from Saint divine and sound dependence.
I need to know what I'm going to say I take the odds I place my belt I will do anything in a few little bit again. Someone take the win before we crash this car that is spit from Saint divine male female vocals you can't beat it no it definitely reminds me of a garage rockier nuggets here version of X good stuff Mr. Scott when we return will have more buried treasures to share and you might even find your next favorite artist in a minute on sound opinions. And we're back this week we're sharing our latest buried treasures we've still got a few more discoveries to get to Jim I'm looking forward to this next one from you are you okay I am well you know generally speaking we're
talking about new artists when we do buried treasures but on occasion we've talked about an artist from the past that is suddenly deserving of the spotlight once again absolute gray was a ban from upstate New York you're a little bit of a Rochester in the mid 80s those wanted you know Indie rock 80s the Maxwell scene and Lounge acts and all of these small clubs and college radio and everybody is being inspired by R.E.M. and the Paisley Underground is happening out on the west coast and and Pat Thomas who was the drummer and kind of I think the the soul of absolute gray you know would go on to be a great chronicler of that West Coast scene and everybody in the band was taking some musical cues from R.E.M. but I think that the change the twist that absolute gray put on things you know was female vocalist Beth Brown who I think had a lot of goth in her and was kind of summoning up Shirley Manson and garbage what they did but but this is what you know this is 1985 so so two decades earlier you know and I think that I'm going to be a little bit more of a
pointing to what would happen with the shoegay's movement in the early early 90s and kind of looking ahead I think they were ahead of their time and and you know the band would do a killer cover of Jefferson Airplane obviously those guitars are real heavy R.E.M. but Pat was a monster drummer so kind of recalls what ride was doing anyway they recently unearthed the set that they played at CBGB's in 1985 and apparently I was there not only was I there but I wrote about it and not only did I write about it but I wrote about it in a piece of text that I wish nobody had ever uncovered again because you know me at one what I have been just out of high school basically sneaking into CBGB to see this band that I liked and pat and I knew each other from the fanzine world right he's doing a fanzine up in Rochester I'm you know I'm writing in Jersey anyone went to see them I wrote this thing for me for the Bob of fanzine in Philadelphia and Pat was like can we use it in the reissue and you know I was like sure okay even though it's mortally embarrassed I'm way too influenced by by Hunter Thompson at this point you know it's like what the hell was I doing and then he said you know would you write a post post script
and Karen Schoamer was the other writer Karen and I were both fanzine writers at that time and she would go on to be a professional music journalist like me you know I think her piece aged a little better than mine but at least I got to add a post script that's neither here nor there I think this set from CBGB that I don't even remember being there it was amazing and it just shows the wealth of that moment in the mid 80s where there were so many bands yeah I'm raised by the fanzine underground and college radio and indie labels and just you know the indie network of clubs it was a really rich moment and we're never going to run out of bands to keep highlighting here's more wall months by absolute great
live at CBGB 1985 yeah great stuff I I'm glad you alerted me to the existence of this record because I did have one of their albums I'm not sure how many records they put out I think they had the one that's streaming in readily accessible yeah the absolute gray record very very fondly remembered them as a good cool take on on that whole scene you know the rain parade jangle pop thing but also you know some fairport convention in there you know really cool band R.E.M. influences but not doing their their own thing slavishly and you know I consider I grew up in up you know right right nearby in Syracuse you know got a got to give it up for the Rochester you know I know and you know I was obviously I was in touch with Pat again and I said I can't believe we have an ad you on sound opinions and he said yeah I can't believe it either because he has you know in addition to running a fine indie label heyday which has been some fantastic
reissues some of which many of which I've talked about you know he's also been like the chronicler of the beat underground and those 60 oh six the the yippies and the radical movement he's he's written really insightful stuff about the black power movement yeah you know even though he's like my age he wasn't there I know I got a bunch of that stuff he's he's gone done a tremendous job of documenting a lot of these important figures who really what what other wise be lost to history but they they had such an influence about how do we think about the world today and he reminds you of where the seeds were originally planted right well to the never ending list of people we have to talk to yes there you go Pat thank you I'm going to go to a sprawling psych rock outfit called the Odyssey Cult they have been around for about a decade the guy behind Ethan Miller was in a really really good band comments on fire remember them oh yeah
they were on alternative tentacles and sub pop signed them I think they put out like four albums early 2000s and then the Ethan Miller went off and did a couple of Odyssey Cult albums in 2017 volume one and volume two originally titled basically solo records he sort of kept the idea live and now he sort of brought back the the concept of the Odyssey Cult but this time with a with a pretty large ensemble you know he's got like eight members in the band including members of sonic youth Steve Shelley and drums he's got Paula Frazier from Paula Frazier from Tarnation he's got members of the OCs and other indie bands from throughout the years what I love about this is this sounds right in my wheelhouse this sort of elements of free jazz mixing in with post punk that's scrunking saxophone so it's a really cool sound big sound reminds later days swans you know how they sort of build up these kind of big big things symphonic
oh yes exactly I think the Odyssey Cult is sort of traveling in the same world there let's play a track called the Yeti's eyes the Yeti of course the abominable snowman you know big Harry monster you know but this song is kind of a monster in itself the Yeti's eyes from the Odyssey Cult that's the Yeti's eyes the Odyssey Cult is back with a volume three first album in 10 years and it's it's a good one modern shoe gaze you know meets meets a you know fun house squandering
there you go man I love it I love it the last pick I have for this batch very treasures Greg comes from Seattle although they are very confusingly called the jaws of Brooklyn the band the jaws of Brooklyn come from the city Seattle you know this is this is one of those tracks that my buddy Jim testa turn me on to he said you got to check out this band it's right up your alley and you know if they do connect for once you can say I'm turning on the something that isn't a punk band and it's true this is this is you know rootsy soulful R&B in the mold of like Alabama shakes you know incredible grooves really sexy really smooth and just you know a real contrast everything else I've laid on you in this current batch of buried treasures but kind of splitting the difference between Motown and Muscle Shoals with a little bit of that West Coast you know Laurel Canyon just a what a great band the lie to me is the track I do not know why they called themselves the jaws of Brooklyn when they're from Seattle but it's a fine band and they deserve your attention
what Wait used to be good friends. Well used to be real close I'm getting mixed brother you say in front that coast The joys of Brooklyn lie to me. I'm going to lay another city that they're not from, Anya. The keyboards that they're straight out of Minneapolis. Prince the time. That kind of vibe. I'm getting that vibe from that song. I mean, so they're kind of like covering all over the place. All over the country. Yeah, that's right.
I'm going to close out with a group called Portraits of Tracy. It's not really a group. It's really the brainchild of one Tracy Genovibe Amare from Louisiana. Playing her songwriter, multi-instrumentalist and producer, she identifies as a black queer from Louisiana. And basically her last album, this is when I became aware of her, was Drive Home. This 18 track concept record about what it meant to be black and queer growing up in Louisiana. An amazing record. I think with this new EP that she has out, she is talking about. It's more storytelling. And the song I want to play is called In a Jam, I think it's just brilliant. This is multi-part song on her new EP. The best I can figure out is it's about somebody tripping at a club. And there's this wiki synthesizer going through it, these pop and drums. You got to kind of almost a proggy vibe to it, but you can dance to it.
Or headbang it if you prefer. There's a Nanda Abba's dancing queen. And there's a fight at the end and she reverses the tables on this guy who's stalking her. So there's all this stuff going on in this song and it's a multi-part story. It's a multi-part story. It's like a short story in the span of a few minutes. I just think she's an incredibly inventive songwriter. Portraits of Tracy named after a track on a Jaco Pistorius record. Wow. One of her heroes, Jaco was one of those fusion basses who was kind of traveling in different worlds. He collaborated with Joni Mitchell for a while. Anyway, Portraits of Tracy is the group. The name for Tracy, Genevieve Amari, and caught in a jam is the track. I'm sound to pain.
That is Portraits of Tracy caught in a jam that's going to wrap it up for us, right, Jim? Yeah, that was good stuff, Gray. Send me a little of the go team. There you go. I hear you on that one. Good stuff. That is it for this batch of buried treasures. But as always, we want to hear from you. Did one of these artists resonate? Who is your latest buried treasure? Share your thoughts in a voice message on our website sounddependence.org. Greg, what do we have on the show next week? Next week, Jim, we're going to talk to one of the all-time soul greats, David Porter. Part of that great David Porter Isaac Hayes songwriting team at Stacks Records.
If there's a hit song from that era, David Porter probably had a hand in writing it. And I got to tell you, I really had all the stories to tell you. I enjoyed talking to David Porter. We could have done hours, indeed. And don't forget to check out our bonus podcast feed wherever you get your podcasts and join us on Patreon for our Monday podcast, Everything Else. Thanks as always to that Patreon community. Especially Matthew Elpilsheimer from Portland, Oregon, who listens to K-O-P-B. This episode of Sounddependence was produced by Alex Clayborn, Andrew Gill and Max Hatlam. Our business development manager is Gary Yonker and our social meeting consultant is Katie
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