Brotherly Pod #259 "Gigachad Jawline"

0:30M-E-E-E Hammer's fucking swinging and we're packing it up It only got saves for the burning baron Coming out the fog throwing orange in white The broadly law boys coming up white We're reaching the doom We're in the mountain, we can't be moved When the heat's right in time What you gonna do? New camp cut, show a reggae and see you again Ciao, everybody welcome to... Brother Steve Hott Probably Thursday, February 5th, 20th, 26th here Kind of sort of post game Mid-game intermission Which will eventually be post game If the show goes long enough Flyer Senators last game before The Olympic Brank fake Christ, because I need a couple weeks off from this team

1:31And they are just currently being Obliterated by the Ottawa Senators It's what nothing supposedly But it sure doesn't feel that way Nick Cousin scored on you in 2020 fucking six For Christ's sake I didn't even know we're still in the league I don't own scoring goals But that is what happening Nick is here As always for these post games, Nick how you doing? I'm good, Dan, thanks for having me Thanks for taking me up on this And yes, the mercifully Mercifully, the flyers are off at the next two weeks After the night Yeah, they got... Yeah, two weeks exactly The 26th is their first game About 25th is their first game back So... Yes Yesterday would have been two weeks, but yeah Yeah, in two weeks of no flyers A much needed break that we all need And tonight looks like The boys already have one foot out the door They're already... I have their vacation Yeah, they're already on like Rinse and repeat for this organization Whenever there's a big break on it

2:31Cancun eating chicken nuggets already Yeah, yeah, yeah Chicky Travis Hanheim and his Chicky Nuggies All side At one point, at the 10-minute mark The flyers are being outshot 10-minute in the second period The flyers are being outshot 17-5 Handfully through the entire game They had five shots on goal And yes, the score is one nothing Because of Dan Vlador This team is absolutely cooked Less time ahead, you know, and I got a couple of predictions wrong But they have found their level And it's not high And yeah, they clearly have one foot out the door They already have their bags packed They're looking at Cancun Or C.I.L. City, whatever 21-8 shots on goal The second intermission Great, nice It only took them how long to even get one shot on goal This game, it was like six minutes to go It had like no shots You tell me this team cares I mean, my thoughts clearly, you know But I had this game on mute

3:32And just watching the backer and getting some other work done And every time I looked up They were always in their own zone And I'm like, have they been in the mugging ovens And so on and all this time No, I guess No Enough to get eight shots But that was about it But yeah, it's been a rough one Mitch Kovat, 10 minutes of ice time here For two periods, which is about half Half way on the roster currently Yeah He got 15 minutes last game So bullying works, everybody For one game It was only because Rick Tuckett wanted to make it out of the parking lot alive If that kind of played like 10 minutes I don't think he would have been coaching today No I think it just goes to show too Like There's a major disconnect between Dan Hilferty, between Keith Jones and Briar and between Rick Tuckett I think there's a... I don't think I'm gonna get into that first But I just think there's a major disconnect Dan Hilferty's putting out That season take a thing a couple weeks ago

4:34We could go... It's so good I'm making the playoffs It's so good, what so... Perfect timing We're back in the playoffs race Then you drop 15 to 20 or whatever it was Yeah And we're firmly... I think entering the game tonight Tonight we were nine points out of a playoff spot I believe so, yeah Yeah, so... What was the plan? Huh? Was it... Was it to make the playoffs? Has it spectacularly blown up in their face yet again? Because they don't know how to construct a roster one way or the other So... Are we making the playoffs? What was to make the playoffs? Yes That was the goal Was to play off hockey it up here And they have once again failed So spectacularly I mean, it's not over yet but at this point it's an uphill battle Pretty harsh Especially if they lose tonight Knowing the way that this team handles breaks during the season That's going to take two weeks once they were turned to probably win another game So... Yeah, it's been...

5:35Been a not great stretch here This is an abject failure of a season And of course now they just revert back to Wow, we got a drop pick now Even though that was not intentional they were supposed to win this year And they just suck that bad Yep And who would have thought it, you know, a team that had a... Probably bottom three center depth in the entire NHL And one... Yeah Yeah, you know what? Yeah The way Cateria plays You just see how he got a... He was trying to carry the puck up through the middle of the ice Get stripped from behind and then took a penalty because... And then slowly chased the guy down Yeah And then took a penalty That's just... Is that playing the right way, Kus? Is it? But yes, it's... Oh, it's still right now Yeah, it's still right now He's awful It's... Yeah, it has blown up spectacularly in their face Like a team with no center depth Like we said before a team with a bunch of robins and no Batman That is just a flawed roster

6:35And it just took a little while But they've come... As they do every fucking year They've come crashing down the earth And... Again, what was the plan? Like if you understand Hilford, he wasn't the playoffs Or is that just a cheap ploy to get a bunch of suckers to get season tickets? Because I will say it again like last time he had me on If you get season tickets You need to be committed, you're an idiot Like you need to have someone take a... What's the word I'm looking for? No, yeah, you need a lobotomy, thank you Lauren But you also need a... Someone needs to be power of attorney over you Because you can't be trusted with your money Because you're literally... Like just give me the $5,000 it costs to get like season tickets for the year Or whatever costs these days Like you're out of your fucking mind if you get season tickets to support this complete ineptitude Yeah, I don't know what the plan for this season was by front office standards They have been...

7:36Keith Jones said that the press are one of the many disastrous pressers that unfolded at the carnival there Was the entire plan was to go into the 2026 off season inside one of those guys And they were caught off guard by the fact that everyone resigned with their team And that there were no free agents and now they don't know what to do And I'm like that... You've been in charge for almost three years And I believe March 10 was when they took over With the breer regime took over A three years and your entire plan with 2020 ticked off season And then that dried up and they've got nothing You literally told us all that your idea that isn't that great of an idea by the way You told us your plan failed And now what? Now you're sitting with your dick in your hand With what? With those center depths? With... We're not tracking... We're not bad enough to have a really legit shot at the lottery pick

8:36If that's if Gavin McKenna isn't incarcerated He's going to fall to the flyers at 15 The flyers are going to select him And then he's going to spend 15 years in jail And that's the end of that anyway That's a lock in the flyers Of course the kid that was trying to antagonize him was from Delaware County Sorry, Delco folks, but your county is a fucking dumpster I'm just going after everyone Yeah, Keith Jones pretty much admitted to us all that the plan failed So why would you get... Again, I ask you idiots out there, why would you get season tickets? I ask you idiots out there Why would you get season tickets? Because they're fun You got to trust the process, Nick I'm not having fun in this process You got to trust it The process And you know what pisses me off, right? People come after you and us And obviously it's... I have been very happy to see that The overwhelmingly majority of us

9:36That aren't beat reporters Whether people have taken stances on Whether they like Keneckney or the pro-coots people Or this and that Everyone hates the writers, which is great And the beat reporters, the access journalists, which is cool Because everyone's sick of it now Yeah Everyone sees what this is Like you tell the bottom line to all of this is We are in the same position we were 12 years ago At least When Hexdol took over 12 years and he's flexing right Yeah, we are in no better position We're in a lower position today than we are Yeah, we are Yeah I mean, back then we had called Drew And Wayne Simmons and Braden Shen And a Catery that wasn't washed up yet And Did I say Vortec too? And we just... We couldn't build around at least that No Take Hexdol, I have the flyers all the same

10:36And then I... Oh, it was the It was the police athletic league game I didn't know that, I wasn't watching I still want those the flyers judging I still need police patch on the front They didn't warm-ups I should have got the one It's one of the many jerseys that I have on my list of Searches for other people I appreciate it I have never found one Yeah But It never comes down Yeah You'll be the first person that here's about I appreciate it I mean, how dare anyone say we're These writers, these access journalists like Question us And how dare people like Paul Bisonett call us Fucking morons People by the way Of all people, yeah Like, look Didn't you just give me a Girl Scout a couple of years ago? No, I... There's Irish travelers Like, they've passed through here before too Not those same exact people But like, I know what he's talking about Like, they're not good people But I digress Like, even with that, right?

11:36I'm all over the place People like Paul Bisonett and other... People are too close to talk it Of course, they're not going to Staying bad about them They go so disgustingly out of their way Yeah, I thought... I thought Spin Chicklets was a pro player's Podcast, right? They exposed Mike Babcock Which I thought was good, right? And, you know, they're always pro player, pro player They were a pro player Now, those player friends are in front offices And now, they have to make a stand And, man, sold out Like, the... The... The great lengths that people are going to Here in this city, and apparently Spin Chicklets, like, to put Mitchkov down And then we're going to wonder why he wants to leave Well, not, we is in me and you And anyone else that has half a brain around here But like...

12:37I'm sorry We're... We're still... No better off than we were 12 years ago Restraight GM's now of just complete... And as Caterade... Bumbling through the... A third period started, everybody Just... Beer... Sheer ineptitude From top to bottom, quite frankly From... Literally from top to bottom I mean, the draft thing's been nothing But you... You guys, I think you guys talked about it on... You can fly, you mentioned someone tweeted Like, it was already a flawed plan to gamble on Like... People... Like, hoping you're going to build through Frage and see which is flawed And hoping that, like, you get draft steals Like, you don't build that way No Well, flyers do, that's a problem Yeah Is there a plan? You need to... You need to... Get to the bottom to get back to the top

13:38The Penguins have been... Relative... I mean, the Crosby era has three cups Because they knew they had nothing going for them They... The Penguins, they tank so bad they're fair They're fans, almost caused them having Even the team in the city anymore But like, they got Malcolm Crosby and Flurry Out of... The tanking And now they have three cups in five total Three recent cups in their cabinet While we're sitting here Celebrating a body-check Closure who made 14 years ago Yeah And I often wonder now, like, you know, a couple weeks ago I'm thinking about it now As I see connecting out there on the ice Where a couple weeks ago He's like, tired of losing, tired of losing Like, is... Is he going to ask to be traded? Like, no Is it me just thinking out loud? Do you think... Do you think he asks to be traded? Honestly? Like you said, these guys... When you were ranting about it on a freaking flyer Like... First of all, why even offer these career losers

14:40Like, these lifetime contracts But then, why would people... Like, you would think connecting, saying hi to anyone else I have no sympathy No, no sympathy A way tired of losing You... Asshole You were here for eight years before you signed your extension You made the playoffs twice And six of those years were among the worst in franchise history If not the worst in franchise history Correct And you signed here for eight-year contract anyway For a cap hit that was probably lower than what you could have got on the open market If you fucking wanted to go win You don't excite a lifetime extension with the flyers Don't pull the... I'm tired of losing, card If you gave a shit about winning hockey games You would not have resigned with this fucking loser organization I have no sympathy Shunk and Terry does that every once in a while I'm tired of losing Fuck you, coach You've been here for 20 goddamn years now You're the reason why nothing's going on here Yeah, the captain I just love that like... Fletcher, Briar

15:40Like, gave out... Fletcher and Briar have both given out contracts to people like... As if like... These were like cornerstone like all-time flyers Like... I could see if they... You know... Want a cup here That's what happens, right? That's what happens with the Phillies Like, you hold on the players Because... That's what happens The Panthers organization There's one fucking back to back cups and they got in Yeah And... It's... I'm glad the only... The only reporter that... Has finally taken the Red Pill And he's getting released from the Matrix Is Rush Joy But when he starts to rant and rave about it Have you... Like, I can't listen to snow the goal anymore But like, I have seen the clips And I have tried listening again Now that Rush Joy has taken the Red Pill But like... Anthony Sanflip was like holding them down Trying to put blue pills back down And scull it and plug them back into the Matrix Like... The excuses And how... Have you noticed that? Have you seen that? I've seen people talk about it

16:41I've not listened to snow the good in a long time I don't generally have a lot of respect for Rush Joy Because once this team goes back in the upswing He'll be right back Suckle in the teeth of everybody Because that's just what it does I'm sure That's fine You don't get the credit for turning on shit When you're just saying what the hot take is at the moment That's not how this game works You ride or die with the shit as far as I'm concerned But... Also fair But at least someone is saying it You know what I mean? Because, you know, Kevin Curze is still... You're Tweet Kevin Curze is still more worried about dudes than you or her Which comes body fat percentage What the fuck? Dude, your Tweet got a lot of tracks at last That last night Yeah, something like that Yeah, let's see... I spit out my imaginary team, man That was fucking funny That was one of the things that I just put out there Not thinking much of it 2.5,000 likes and 292,000 impressions Wow The fires just got their ninth shot

17:41We're off minutes Five minutes and a half minutes and a third It's like... Being out shot 24 to 9 right now Yeah, I... To... And I think that's what's pissing everyone off Is people are finally realizing it It only took three GMs and 12 years Who just got pushed off the puck by Brady Kitchuck I'm even barky, I think I hate it I hate it Somebody on Twitter apologized to me the other day One of those people that's always like, fuck you day I know you're wrong about everything They go, yeah, you were right the whole time I was like, okay, great Now, why did we do this? Fucking, I don't know, some random guy Something like that Some bro But... That's like... You know, I'm not negative I'm not sitting here being a hot take I'm just telling you what's going on And spoiler alert, I've not been wrong very often Over the last 12, 15 years Because this shit is painfully fucking obvious If you don't give a shit

18:41I don't care anymore I'm just gonna tell you what's up Put a winning product on there And I'll be the first one to tell you they're doing good They haven't They won't Have a plan to do it either No Just listen to me everybody I know what I'm talking about I swear Yeah You could have saved yourself three years of heartache Pretending Brear know what he was doing all along If you just admitted from day one that this guy was in over his fucking head That's what you get when you have a bunch of people that have no fucking front office experience That's what they fucked up They should have went out there And if they wanted to coordinate Brear as the GM That's fine Then you should have hired a president that had experience If you want a Brear to be the face of the franchise Back as the president And let somebody do the dirty work as a GM Then you should have found a fucking veteran That knows what they're doing and can handle them And they didn't It's a front office filled with first timer fucking former flyers That have no experience in nobody what they're doing And then shit like this office Well we're gonna wait for the 2026 off season with no backup plan And when that falls apart They got nothing Nothing And then not only that you bring in a former flyer coach from the 80s

19:42Who So the boomers can clap like fucking seals And Rick talk it was here in 1985 is back Yeah And now look like Here he is on another team now going after another young talent Like you would think like I thought you're not supposed to air dirty laundry Everyone always says like hockey players are robots He can't stop going He can't stop going out of his way To put Mitch Cobb down He can't help himself And he can't He can't He's ironically enough It's like me shooting on Kevin Kirk Any chance I will get I will take it But Kevin Kirk is low hanging fruit at this point But it's just All right Like he fucked up man Mitch Cobb played about one minute of ice time in the third period Oh great We need that goal We still have nine shots on goal With 1236 and counting here in the third everybody

20:44But anyway You're literally taking him out at the knees And you're going to wonder why like He hates it here And goes back to Russia Or doesn't stay here Like again I said it last time When we were recording during the penguins game If I was Zegress I would test for the agency That would be fantastic He just tells his organization to fuck themselves And leaves I'd be here for you That'd be so fucking funny You imagine they even traded with the deadline And he's like the only piece you have Pretty much yeah He enjoys Dale Well now the rest of the line in rumors Remember like Oh they're That popped up out of nowhere It's like Might as well Might as well move on to the rest of the line And they put an insane asking price on them Though nobody wants to do it Yeah Because the guys played 10 games in the last calendar year And has one arm And has been hurt like four times already this year If Penaren only got you a third You're going to have to fucking swallow your pride And take what you can for them

21:45Because You have no goalies, no centers You need as many Stabs at this as possible Because you're top two center drafts picks And that's been the Chanco Now you're going to have egg on your face Again Like just I feel like we're talking in circles Which by the way Sorry torts Sorry I've seen a lot of that too And I'm just like We can demand better than Tortorola and Rectaka And I swear But you find out real coach that's not Oh fuck you Yeah I don't mean that What do these things Yeah I mean Torches just You found somebody that makes people think John Tortorola was doing a good job Well I don't necessarily think he was doing a good job But like I get it now That famous When they fired him Right near the end of the season When he was like I don't I can't do this anymore I forget I forget it So many punched out Cam York It makes sense now It makes sense Like

22:45I've said this before The fish rots from the head down You have A professional team here That used to be owned by a guy Who started this team with a bank loan And built them from the ground up Ed Snyder He loved the flyers He cared about them Sometimes it was too much meddling But you knew like he was going to try And do right by us fans And try and get a winning product out there If you've listened to other podcasts out there People have said like He got a little old He got a little sick near the end Obviously he died Because he got sick And he got a little impatient there at the end And they made some rash decisions But at least You had an owner who fucking cared I don't like Dan Hilford he could act like He cares only once But like He still just Like we're still owned by Comcast Who What the fuck do they care They make a gazillion dollars

23:45Regardless This isn't like The flyers aren't Comcast Baby where they make all their money You know what I mean So you have an ownership That doesn't fucking care I don't believe that they care You won't convince me otherwise And then you have like you said Keith Jones a first time Or a flyer Who sure He might be a real personable guy He might be swell, Dan Where it is he's one of the funniest guys You can ever meet and you know Elite Chirper when he played in the league Well, that doesn't mean he's going to make a great president So am I That doesn't mean I'm qualified to run a hockey team Yeah Like As a bunch of experiences I have a my job I can't go sit in the back of a name And let's start Save it live like that You know what I mean Like it's not Like this doesn't matter And Then you have Brear No NHL GM experience Nope And he He learned everything He knew from truck He learned everything from Probably the worst GM the flyers I've ever had

24:46And And it just Rots from the head down So you think Torts My point here now Going back to Torts is Your You came here thinking I'm going to coach the Philadelphia flyers What a storied franchise Except like you pointed out The last couple chapters These last few years have been the worst In the history of this team They're going to miss the playoffs For a franchise worst sixth straight season And now I wonder With Torts Right He saw it Coots is fucking washed And he's not a physical player He doesn't Really do much right anymore He can win you some face-offs Big fucking whoop The flyers finally have 10 shots And He has an alright defensive stick But he is He's toast He's done So

25:46Torts doesn't like it I don't think I truly now It's worth seeing A hundred percent belief That Torts had nothing to do With caterying getting the cap density It was all calm cast And just trying to sell tickets Like you said Leaving up to that stadium series game They wanted to have a captain And Torts got in here and said No one deserves it We got to fix things here Well guess what Excuse me Nothing got fixed You pointed a captain guess what? I don't think he's a captain. I'm going to scratch him. Probably lost the room because whether towards we have to apologize to him or not, we all agree that towards always eventually loses the room wherever he goes. He has like a three-year shut-of-flight max. And yeah, here we are, a year later, after towards Scott fired, and we're in no better position,

26:47arguably in worst position. Yeah. That's what they do. You know what's also frustrating about tonight? It's good to really actually almost scored, is you're facing James Rimer, who's like 53 years old. Who's still around you? Who's still around? And you would think like, let's get on him. Let's get out. Let's get after this guy. He's the backup goalie. He's old. Well, let's get after him. Ooh, who just took a puck up high. Jolson. Looks like he's going to be okay. That's too bad. But 37, James Rimer, it would be 38. Nice. So you'd think like, let's get on him. No. Just another typical flyers, shit the bed. Just go coast into your time off. You know what Jolson, right? Because look, Emil Andre has made some mistakes out there. But like, let the kid learn and play. Another famous

27:48fructot. We got to get him back in before the break. He can now stay for five games in two weeks and will not play because he didn't play tonight. So he now he's got the whole break. You think, can he go back to the fans? Is he on a two-way? He is on a two-way, but I'm not sure if the roster freeze allows players to go back to the H. I'm not sure about that. Because if not, he and Colossal may go down, but at least Colossal, but I'm not sure how that works. Colossal, who is not in NHL gold tenders we've seen? No. Yeah, man, it's a disaster. Pretty much. And you have to strip it down, but you can't because you can't give out contracts prematurely. I got a wide front contract. Yeah, one good season. Here's eight years. Oh,

28:49connecting. You've barely been a point where game player. Here's eight years. Oh, goods. Here's eight. You've had lots of surgeries and you're falling apart. Here's eight years. They have outside of the bubble. When they face the team in the first round, that was only there because of the playoff format. They were the 14th seed. They haven't want to playoff series outside the bubble since 2012. It's fucking insane. And you're looking at the Rangers are going to are tearing it down and they're going to lap us for the second fucking time. Impossible. I mean, Christopher seems like he has nobody what he's doing. So they may just be crashing and burning, but they're at least going to try, I guess. And they're still. Yeah, I mean, they're still going to do the right thing and and air it down. But this is the second second year in a row that socket has had a disastrous relationship with

29:52players and a disastrous season. Well, because he's a funny guy and he hangs out with you. TNT business. He's a great guy here. That's all that's all you need to be a head coach around here. I'm a fire talking higher. Chris Van Develle here. Something to take over. Did you punch dudes in the 80s and 90s? Well, we're in a flyers jersey. Well, guess what? You're our top candidate. Yeah, when when the GM has to come out and say that we have to keep reminding this guy to play the young guys while they're in this tail spin of a losing streak. And while they're destroying their top prospect, Mitchkov, one of the only two players in the organization that's worth a fucking shit right now. Yeah, that's not great. That's not a ringing endorsement. I have no idea if they're going to fire the guy. My guess is still no. But after this weekend and all the fucking heat around this guy, I don't think it's 0% anymore. I think a lot of this is going to be dependent on how they look after the break. Because I mean, I don't think they're

30:53making the playoff. So I don't think that's much of a question anymore. They got 25 games left or whatever it is. If they come back and lose 20 of them, they may have no choice but to make talking a one and done. But I don't really believe that because it means the flyers would do the right thing and they so rarely do the right thing that I'm not giving them the benefit of the doubt that they would. So I don't know. I don't know whether talking is fired or not. I'm more confident now that I was this time last week, but I still don't think it's very high. But as I've been alluding to on both the website and the shows, you don't fire your target. You go into the summer and do nothing or at least not nearly enough. You run it back and have a disaster on your hands again. People aren't going to be calling for talk is heading where they're going to be calling for Briar's head. Yeah. And you're replicating the Ron Hextall Dave Hacks tool situation. So yeah, I'm not sure. I'm not sure how this one plays out. But I don't think it's good. One way or the other parts. It's a mess either way. It's some heads have to roll again and get replaced by more

31:58former flyers. And again, and like what timing, right? You talked about this too. I've heard you talk about it. I've been catching up on the episodes, which by the way, I appreciate all the shout outs I've been getting. You know, Shane, Shane's very good to me. He's always always calls me hands of Nick. I appreciate that. But it's just the disconnect right the disconnect. Like I agree with you, like say they really come back and they clearly aren't playing for them. Like you have to get rid of you have to have to fear and and and to like and the way they played and have been playing since the Devorak extension. Like now fucking premature. Like you did not extension and the letter to season ticket holders both happened right before the fucking collapse. And it's like we're going to make the playoffs and we got to recite Devorak and then they lose 18 or 20 or whatever it is. It's like, well, maybe you shouldn't do stupid shit like this.

33:00Could you imagine like a soul Devorak for the deadline at the dead or like say you were still pleased with them and like the idea was still to keep them. You didn't have to fucking sign them in January to a five year deal. You could have released just started conversation with the agent be like, Hey, if he keeps this up, we're looking to extend them. I'm they probably still with him in a ridiculous extension, but like there was no fucking rush. You have until the end of the year. You don't have to fucking. And here we are. 720 left in the third 12 shots on goal. Right. The low, the low risk, low reward hockey, the brick tocket experience. Did you hear you get you say you had the game on mute. They said, you know, the flyers came up the first goal here tonight. And only the national predators who equally are as fucked as we are have only they're the only team that's given up more goals. Uh, the first goal more than the

34:00flyers, the predators, who's GM did so fucking bad bright trots. He's like, I'm out. He realized he fucked up and probably isn't fit for it. And he's leaving at the end of the air. Yeah, he's retiring, huh? Because again, he tried to build through free agency and signed a bunch of washed up guys and it blew up in his face. Tampa and Vegas didn't keep Stamcoes and Marchesau for a reason. And guess what? Tampa and Vegas haven't missed a beat since letting those guys go. Because sometimes in professional sports, you have to be a little ruthless. Even when people like Marchesau and Stamcoes have won you cups, you have to move on. No, here you get keys to the city for something 14 years ago. Yeah. Yeah, he is a talker guy, which if you don't keep talking, why'd you keep the forehack?

35:01Uh, Christ. This five 50 and counting and they've looked relatively just no sustained. This whole game, no sustained off fence. Every single time I look up at the fucking television, they are in the goddamn defensive zone. Every time I don't think I've seen them once in the offensive zone. Christ. There's got to be a team out there that's going to make a legit push that needs a scoring winger. And you have Kineckney who is sick of losing. So the way I connect the ad here, but Kineckney out of here. The Kraken, they get run to Shane Wright to add a top six scoring winger. We can't do that. No, of course not. We can't do that for sir. Can't do that. Can't do Robert Thomas. We're not going to do Jason Robertson. They couldn't do Quinn Hughes. They couldn't do Marco Rossi because he's small. They didn't give up anything for David Eurichack. And god, if we start playing this game, it's unbelievable. All the players, they didn't think we're good enough. Meanwhile, they had to resign Garnet Hathaway early.

36:06Yeah, it's on one. Yeah, yeah, we got to keep you. It's just. I still say this. I know it sounds silly. You have to buy out Kataria. You have to buy by email and just just go anywhere. I don't care who you sign. But he's a leader. He's the captain. I can't buy something. Some fucking leader. It's never like you and many and like I talk about. It's never I. I. I. It's he's always deflecting. You know, he's thrown Mitch Cobb under the bus multiple times now. Multiple times. You know, I don't love Kataria as much as the weirdos do. But I don't hate him as much as everybody else does strictly for my hockey playing perspective. Like I get it. You like what he is a very good defensive forward, except he's just too goddamn slow to be meaningful player now. But he's a perfectly fine bottom six center. If you want your,

37:09you know, that shut down line. Fine. Like he's not like a guy like that should be on a eight. You're fucking eight by eight. You know what I mean? No, they should have never resigned him in the first place. I begged for that at the time. But this guy is such a terrible leader. He's a god damn miserable. Like he had to have done something behind the scenes where he worked himself into the role of captain. See the first place. We all knew he was getting at the deja-ru left. That chunk of terror is going to be a guy even though it took him like three years to get it after that. But like he's got to be a, but he just comes across like such an unlikeable lazy fucking son of a bitch. Yeah. Just like how is this guy captain right now? How is it possible that you don't have another leader? Listen, I am not a connecting fan. Never have been. Never will be. You should have given that guy the fucking sea or Scott Lotton for that. He tried. He just tried to pick a fight of Brady and Brady literally walked away. Like he wasn't worth his time. Like Brady Kitchuck would feed him his lunch. And Brady's like just

38:10gave away. Like you're not even worth it. Cateri A has 26 points in 54 games. If you take away that random game where he's like, I feel great early in the season. We had a four point game. He has 22 points in 53 games. Has he scored a point there? December 7th. No, no. He has five gold. You have to buy him out. December 7th. Sorry, Danny. I know he's your little buddy, Danny. You have to buy him out. You have to. Nah. He's not going anywhere. You did the math. It doesn't, it's not like it's going to hold us back. And it's not like there are six and a half for four years and then half a mill for another four years. Yeah. That's that's nothing. That's nothing. You have to get you have to buy him out. They can be where all their 2026 for agency money goes. They're not going to be spending it in for agency. You screamed about this every summer. We're like, they would prematurely sign sandhime or connect the your Cateri A. And you're like, remember,

39:13it's like, Oh, JVR is coming off the books. Here's a say I have extension. It's like, what are we doing? I tell you what, dude, side note, I am so, so fucking sick of this cold weather and how it's making the well, so fucking slowly. Yeah, we still let's put a snout there two weeks after this storm. Oh my god, you know, it's awful. You've had one day above freezing in the last like month at the time. It's been fucking terrible. Like today felt nice because it was 29 degrees. Yeah. It's not going anywhere anytime soon in there. No. Yeah, it's just been snowy and cold and miserable. And then the flyers are doing whatever it is the flyers are doing. I mean, they have two weeks to figure this shit out while everyone's over taking their breaks. Like,

40:18figure out who you're going to get rid of and fucking strip it down and aim for the fucking bottom. If this trade deadline passes and they don't do anything, oh, I can't wait. I can't wait. Get rid of Risto, get rid of Connecti. Connecti, sick of losing. He didn't get the play for team Canada. Yeah, I love the Connecti has had a hot streak. Like, up that trade value, but get out of here. Get rid of Sanheim. Nope. He's an Olympian. I can't trade Sanheim. They're not trading anybody. All the more reason to get something for him. Like, hey, this is Canadian Olympian. Travis and I were trying to get off my hands. I need a first round of fourth. Nope. They're all staying. Fuck, Daddy Brear said his butt. She's that expect to quiet trade deadline, which is a wild fucking thing to say for a team that's free falling through the standings right now that we're just not going to do anything. But what are they going to do?

41:22Who the fuck? Like, what do they got? Bobby Brink? That's your, your RFA that's probably needs to move from mortone anyway. What other than that with the fucking unit? Everyone's under contract or sucks. Or both. Yeah, right. Got Zegris as an RFA. Grunstrom as a UFA. Delories the UFA. Brink is an RFA. Gribankin's an RFA. Obbles as UFA, but he's snapped his leg in half. Jamie Drysdale's an RFA. Emil Andre's an RFA. Juleson is a UFA. Erson and Colesauver both RFA's. So I could see them moving on from Gribankin. Like, not giving him a qualifying offer. Yeah, sure. Why not? Let's get rid of the one guy in this team that anybody likes. And he's not even in the lineup tonight. He's like, he's sitting on the bench, I think. What do you mean? What? I guess, yeah, I guess I've barely noticed him. He's played a nine minutes five on the bench. Yeah, all right. I didn't even notice him tonight. The flyers are two and a half minutes away from being shut out by 37-year-old back-up gold tender James Rimer in their own building, which they've been shut out at home a lot

42:26this year. It's God-damed a present that's only one nothing. I thought this game would have been out of control based on how much time the senators have had in their zone, but the flyers have pulled their goalie here to go up left. Flyers around the zone. Here's came York. What's he going to do? Soft-rister to the net. They're going to score and send it over time and then win and then go see we're really good. Yes. All those fucking people that are like that we're talking about, you know, how good this team was in November and shit. And it's like they have the least amount of regulation wins for a long time. Yeah. Yeah. Because they were fighting and scratching and dragging themselves to overtime victories or losses. Yeah. Like it was obvious at the time that like I've asked it like how many dominant wins have they had this season? I think they're three. That's it. And through closing and going 60 again, they fucking scored. You bastards. Told you. But I'm behind you. They tries down to the... Man,

43:29I'm way behind you. They still haven't scored yet. He was trying to try to deal again. 114. Yeah. I'm just glad it was a good turn. Yeah. So what? Yeah, they're going to fucking my god. 114. On the 13th shot of the game, they get a goal. Oh, you know, I wanted to get upset about too. It's like how all these teams like strip it down and they eventually might have something to show for it. Like depending on how far back you want to go, you can talk about like 2019 when they got rid of Simmons and they did nothing with that, right? But think even since Briar took over, right? Briar got rid of Hayes. He got rid of Provarov. He's got rid of Lawton, Frost, Fariby, and I miss it anybody.

44:31Of note. Like you didn't trade away any goalies. No. The first summer was Hayes and Provarov. You got rid of those two. Sean Walker. He acquired Sean Walker and then traded him, right? I got a decent pick. Did he have first one? I think so. And they traded those first for fucking Jack Nesbitt. Yeah. Nesbitts. No, let's see. Provarov, Hayes, David Kasha, Cuttergroatier, Sean Walker, Wade Allison, Ronnie Adder, Joel Fariby, Frost, Lawton, Kuzmingo, Eric Johnson, Jerry, I've got an Ivan Fetitov, Ryan Ellis, Samo Tomah, Dennis Gilbert, Ethan Samson, and Igor Zamula. All right. Of all those guys, I hit the big five or the guys that were considered, you know,

45:33Wade Allison, they gave up on and you don't really hear much from him anymore. I had so much promise and they just couldn't stay healthy. It's in Germany, but you keep getting rid of guys and how are you still stuck in the fucking middle because you're not doing enough because you're playing with three worse guys. Yeah, you fucking, but or you just prematurely give out contracts and you can't fucking move on. How do you get rid of all those guys and still aren't in the bottom of the league because you're fucking giving out contracts. The players don't deserve it. And you keep like, all right, we're going to get rid of Frost Fariby and Lawton in one season, which I fucking, we all loved it. Damn, we all loved it. Like, finally, they're moving on from these fucking people. But then you go and try and semi-run it back and get Zegris and Devora act to try and address some center depth and then you find yourself kind of competitive until the new coach bump wears off. And the league finds you out and you find your level. Here we are again.

46:39All that, all that overturn. I mean, really, this is not bad enough. It is a much different roster from what they would have been like right in the immediate pandemic era when they were really bad. But like, all that time, all that overturn and I'm still looking at this roster going, this is so painfully fucking stale with no movement and change. That's what it's like, what are we doing? You're building a mediocre product because they don't want to commit to winning or losing. And then they have the balls to, we say this too, right? Then they have the balls to raise, take a price. Send out a letter talking about how the playoffs are surely coming back. L-M-A-O. Oh, and fuck you, Frank. Put that out there. I don't think he listens to brotherly pop. Fuck you, Frank. My guess is he still uses a flip phone. So I highly doubt he has the, uh, technical wearable. What an asshole that guy is. Yeah. Oh my god, both of these teams are two in seven and over time.

47:43God, there's Gritty. Fuck you, Gritty. God. Oh my god, what camera angles? I'm going to throw up. Stop moving. Ah, where's the hard cam? I can't take that. Angle. You don't like this sky cam? They got going on? No. What's he giving you? Like, why are these human out? They don't just see how shitty the hockey is. Yeah, I don't like it when they can't, yeah, they quickly got off that once the puck started moving. I tell you what, though, when Jerome Ford or check we're out there on the three on three, it was something else. The good old days, but the flyer said, and even then there was me lost. Flyers lost. Wait, what?

48:47I'm a 420. So connecting misses the net wide open and to go the other way. Stand high and just dance around. Was that stewed slur? Ferdars, an unhappy man, but that was, uh, so everyone that watched the game, connecting has a wide open shot misses the net. Like, why your country fucking mind? What's he mad about? I don't know. I'm not sure. He's mad about something. I, I, I tell you what, I like Dan Flodar. All the interview stuff. He seems like a genuinely nice guy. Yeah. He's got him. I don't like this name mask now. He's just see that and Iron Maiden. I think it's pretty cool. That's the way to my heart. So, yeah. What do you think of Lars? God, say it high. What the fuck was that? Christ. Look at this. Look at this. He's why did he actually make a save? No, he missed the net.

49:50All the way back down and then he just goes around sand. I'm like, he's standing. My God, sand. Hyde is so bad and he's here for how many more fucking years? Dude, like, he, dude, you could pay me a fraction of that of what sand. Hyde's making and, and, and stewds look people around me like I'm not there. I wonder if stewds will say something to him? Oh, what a game. Dude, Travis, Sam, I'm stolen. Let's check. Check the timeline. Is everyone going after Sam? Everyone's after connecting, actually, for missing the net. Well, Dan, I've been hating on Travis Kineckney, so of you before it was cool. And that's the Travai experience, the Travai in overtime. Travis Kineckney, wide open shot misses

50:55the net. Travis Sandheim dog walked like a beer leaguer out there amongst pros. My God. And mercifully. Oh, Chris Pronger. Chris Pronger, going after Paul Bitsonette on Twitter. You Chris Pronger seems to know what he's talking about. I have people all the time that I, is he got to be the GM? I'm like, no, I don't think you, I don't think he's coming back to Haim. Just a smart man, especially what we're dealing with these days. Yeah, that was that was the Travis Sandheim and Travis Kineckney experience right there. Pretty much, you know. I'm going to put that on Twitter. Travis Sandheim and Travis Kineckney suck.

51:58That's, that's, that's the tweet. That's it. They suck. Yeah, another tweet here. Flars are in Mexico already. Nine shots is a joke. So, one said that a half hour ago. To whatever happen. You see that, that Tony S Cargo guy, whatever his name was. He was like, organizing the socket sucks chant and all this stuff. I don't know if he crossed the line. And then, then he got banned. Yeah, something happening. Something happened. He was sending conoles to people. Did you see that? Yeah. I'm like, who is this guy? I want to connolly. I'm jealous. No idea. But, did they always have this small of a table during these intermission shows? I don't know. Didn't used to be bigger. They're like, the budget shrink. Shoulder to shoulder right now. We think Ashwin Sullivan. She's better than Terran Hatter. I don't know what kind of bar that is, but I digger.

53:02Yeah, she's good. Tim Stuchle. Good. Keep losing, boys. Stop winning games. Like, how about that? When you had me on for the penguins game, I'm like, they're going to get fucking smoked on this road trip. And then they fucking do get five out of six points. I bet. It's not got only bet 40 bucks. The avalanche would beat the flyers. And then it's gold flyers. Fashioned. They come home and lay an egg. And then they have it once and give me one game. Doesn't feel like they've won since I just wish Scott Hartnell would blow a gasket and tell it like it is because he's no dummy as much as a lot of Scott Arnold. Fucking idiot. Well, no, come on, man. Like as far as like him at this job, he's not the best, but like, come on. He was a good player here. He was. He's way too much of a bro. Yeah, but like he knows what it takes to win, man. Like, I've said it before. He was a

54:05grimy motherfucker out there. He put up 30 golds easily. He was one of my favorite flyers at the time. Yeah, I mean, he was part of three different lines here that were all very good. This is how we get in the Brear Mix in the first place of like, well, he had a good postseason run. So he must know what he's going to do in the air. I don't like it. I don't know. I just he does not strike me as a guy that knows much. And Brear was here when Paul Hongroom was wheeling and dealing. You can't sit on your hands. Go one way or the other, but they had a plan. You can't get away from the plan. And if it dries up before you get there, they're no, well, no, what are we now? What do we do? And we just wait another five years before a good UFA class rolls around and hope for the best then. But Shade looks like he's actively shitting his pants. That is full diaper face if I've ever seen it. That's another four of flyer. Like dude, I would love a hot mic moment like a few years ago,

55:05where Jackson and Jones, you were, was a Dale Weas they were talking shit on a couple of other guys. Yeah. Like these two guys know this, these, come on. Boucher is a shield. He would never fucking say anything bad about the flyers. Come on, Bouch. I just somebody had to tell him to move his mic closer up to his face. So he's not real good at this broadcasting thing either. Oh, see there. Now he just suggested on my, I'm behind you. It's fucking funny. This is stupid team. Big plans this weekend? No, actually. First open weekend in a long goddamn time. I'm laying relatively low. I think tomorrow we're laying low.

56:05Watch fall out. Have you watched fall out? No. Have you ever? No. It's good show. Got a different play the games. No, not a video game guy. I thought you'd, I thought you'd dab with a little. When I was young, I don't think recently. You're still young, Dan. You want to trade places? I'll be 29. You could be 40. I bought the NHL games to review for the website and I'm playing it for a weekend and then stopped and I've even done that in a few years. That was those games were terrible. Down. I ain't up. Yeah, I'm like, I think Saturday having a couple of friends over then Sunday we'll lay low again, watch Super Bowl here and back to work all Monday. Oh shit. Super Bowl is this weekend. Didn't know then. Yeah, I'm not even excited about it. I cannot possibly care. I don't typically care much anyway, but then these two teams are like, who could possibly care? No. And you know, like if you go on social media,

57:11people are going to complain about the halftime show one way or the other. It's like, oh my god, shut the fuck up and find something else to get upset about. That's a little more constructive than some fucking guy singing. Yeah. Hear about the triple murder down here in Bucks County. I did not. This guy slaughtered his family. Was it after a flyer's game by chance? No, he was not a recocket presser and just had enough. He was a schizophrenic and it was start off. I don't know if I should talk about it. It's all over the news. It was all over the news last week. A wealthy part of Bucks County too. I don't know if you ever heard of the council rock school district. I have not. It's like more obviously south of here because we're in upper Bucks County, but yeah. This dude murdered his parents and his sister.

58:13It wasn't me, I swear. No. No, they got him. I'd say what, Drysdale? If anyone's had a nice season like at least showing signs of improvement, it's been Drysdale. Yes. He's got good feet. If you could just stay healthy. If someone's got to get confident on that point, as far as ripping it, the game winning goal against Washington last game, which go figure we lost to be beat Washington. And then tonight he gets us to lose her point. They're going to show the overtime play again. Here we go. Connect me. Travis Connect me. Sam, I was going to play. He is literally two weeks. He's just above the face offs dot. He's just above the dot and misses it. And then oh my god, Sam, hi, you are terrible.

59:15He misses the net. I could have at least hit the net and you could have paid. You're just going to pay off my mortgage, which is not even a fraction of Connect me salary. And I could have been just as useless as the Travai. I'm telling you, John Cooper is not playing Trav San High in the metal rounds. He is not. I mean, he barely played at the four nations. Yeah, both Travai did because they both clearly can't keep up at that level. Nope. I just cannot believe Canada does not have seven better defensemen than goddamn Travai San High. How's that possible? Again, maybe they got caught up because the flyers had a good start to the season. And oh, well, Travai said I'm a place top. I mean, he's a little bit faster. He's raw bullshit anyway, but like, I couldn't find anybody better. I mean, I realized like, but Translow's done and Weber has been retired for a few years. So there's your two top meat heads anyway, but I don't know.

1:00:16Confident like nobody. Branded Montor. Nobody in the league is better than Travai San I'm some Branded Montor Canadian. Problem. Shea Theodore. Any one of the fucking. Yes, Montor's Canadian. Call him up. He knows what it takes to win. Oh, Christ. Pick any other Canadian defenseman that's on one of these top 16s in either conference. Oh, you're in captain Coates. Oh, my, uh, my Kevin Kurtz treats tweet is finally starting to get Tracks in the, uh, the urinal one I made earlier. Mm-hmm about that. Shankateria 145.7% of his face offs tonight. Wow.

1:01:20I tell him he's muted, but I assume he's blaming that baby Mitch go. Yeah, I don't care with. Oh, there's our friend. There's Kevin Kurtz right there. He's not even on his knees in front of Kataria. It's standing like a big boy. Kataria is a goofy-looking guy too. What a, what a terrible jawline. I want my, I want my captain to have a giga-chad jawline. You know what I'm saying then? I want the giga-chad jawline. Oh, my captain. Not this like little tiny like little chin boy over here like Kataria. Get the fuck it. Find me a giga-chad for my captain. Thank you guys. Kat, do you want to read your tweet last night about Kevin Kurtz? That was fucking funny.

1:02:24Oh, where is it? You weren't reading the replies, were you? No, but I have a pretty good idea what they say. The majority, Danward. Majority are in favor. I see those. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Couple, couple of big hits. Kevin Kurtz said, why is Matt May Midskov's conditioning level still an issue? His inflated body fat percentage when he arrived has made the process lengthier and more complicated, particularly considering the kind of player that he is. And I just being a fucking smart ass. But I have sex with dudes and never in my life have I thought about none of my man's body nearly as much as this loser does about Midskov. Oh God, I was fucking good. There are a bunch of islanders fans and shark fans that are like, this guy's still out there, he's still saying. So apparently this isn't new. He's been doing this his whole career as being a shithead. But, uh, yeah. Got Al Morgantey. That guy is a shield of all shields. Even when he, I don't listen to the radio that much.

1:03:25But I remember when like Jones used to be on the WIP morning show and they would sometimes ask, how like what's wrong? And he would just literally make noises and not answer. He'd be like, well, like he wouldn't say anything. It's like, dude, you've been around forever. You know what's wrong? Just fucking say it. That's cool. So. I just got shipping for something. I wasn't expecting to ship anytime soon. Oh nice. All three of them? Cool. Neat. Well, any final thoughts here, Nick? No, I did a lot of the talk in a night. I apologize. That's fine. I got two more shows to record this week and I've already recorded three of them. So I'm so sure your solo show was good. Your frequent flyer was good with Mike and Manny. I've

1:04:27been listening to that. You've been releasing it parts. Yeah, it's, I just don't understand how other podcasts out there, the big ones, like have the audacity to like call us morons and ask us what our problem is when we've been stuck in neutral for 12 fucking years, we're no better off than when Hextal took over in 2014. We are no better off. Nope. But hey, we're just gonna keep trusting the process. One day they'll be good again. Maybe yeah. Pop pop, Nick will get to see the Stanley Cup race. Dude, it's the very first episode, legitimate fear of mine. Fucking this was just a couple of six years ago. Yeah. Yeah. When the Eagles was not too long after the Eagles won that Super Bowl and people like, this was for you, dad. This is for you. Pop pop on Facebook on Twitter. Like yeah, man.

1:05:29And then I'm thinking like, man, that's gonna be me. The flyers are gonna win the Stanley Cup in like 20 65. And I will have died about three years prior. And my little girl's gonna be thinking about this is for you, dad. They finally did it. It's gonna happen. When we're on episode 400,000 of brotherly pod all be sure to pour one out for you. I appreciate it. We're still be talking about Sean Catery under contract somehow. But he played 2000 games for the flyers. Well, um, you may be hearing this on Sunday. So I apologize. We are recording a friggin' flyer on Saturday, which means yesterday. But I'm gonna have to spread this shit out a little bit during the limbic break because there's gonna be nothing to talk about for this time. Should be a Katie show up if not a full on sisterly pod sometime next week as well, or else we're recording that on Saturday. So plenty of stuff coming your way from the podcast, the website. Yeah. Now and again. When I get what I got worked up enough to come out of hockey

1:06:34writing retirement, I will write something about this team, which is happening more frequently these days because they're pissing me off. So, uh, yeah, check all that out. Atty the five. Yeah. You can find me on Twitter at 4 to enter 215. Please tell your friends about brotherly pod. All right, everyone. Uh, I was about to hit the tip, the tip outro. Goodbye, and good night. There we go. Jesus, shower beers in my place. shower beers in my place.