Brooks is BACK ! And Is AimPoint Worth It ?! w/ James Sharpe - Episode 58

0:00New episodes of the Birdie Golf Club podcast are out every single Tuesday. Make sure to follow, subscribe, on whatever platform you're on to not miss an episode. I was looking forward to trying to coach us that the person grasps it without me has to understand here and give a 10 minute dossier on what needs to change. Now everyone really uses a form of endpoint on tour. Either they're cabby, uses it, or they can use it. Welcome into another episode of the Birdie Golf Club podcast. Great to have you. I just want to get to some breaking news that's come across my desk, just as I was about to record this introduction for this week's episode. And it's from the PJ tour. So I thought it was well worth just reading out, digesting together, and then we're going to get to our guest for the week. So the PJ tour of issued this statement on reading via Instagram. I'll read it in whole. As the 2026 PJ tour season begins this week at the Sony Open in Hawaii,

1:00I wanted to provide an update to our fans on recent player developments that have been in the news as well as the PJ tour's response to this unique situation. Since becoming CEO last year, my primary focus has been a commitment to our fans to create the best version of the PJ tour. I promise that together we would respect the past while building the future, challenging ourselves to reach new fans and create a tour that both reflects the best of sports competition and retains the elite competitive environment our fans expect every week. I've been fortunate to hear and learn from so many of our fans on what makes the PJ tour special, along with the ways we can further enhance the drama and consequence of competing at the highest level of the game. And one thing has been clear across each of those conversations, you all want the best players in the world competing against each other more often. On December 23rd, 2025, Brooks Kepler notes for the PJ notified, sorry, that PJ tour that his previous affiliation had concluded and he subsequently applied for

2:05reinstatement of tour membership. This prompted our balls to evaluate how we deliver the best version of the PJ tour for our fans, players and partners with severe and justified consequences, which has resulted in our new returning member program. Huge. Designed to provide an alternative path back to PJ tour competition for past members who have achieved the highest accomplishments in the game, the returning member program mandates heavy and appropriate limitations to both tournament access and potential earnings that we believe properly holds returning members accountable for substantial compensation earned elsewhere. It also includes elite performance-based criteria that requires winning the player's championship, master's tournament, PJ championship, US open, or the open championship between 2022 and 2025. It's strict limitations, which Brooks has agreed to include a five year forfeiture.

3:08Of potential equity in a PJ tour's player equity program, representing one of the largest financial repercussions in professional sports history, with estimations that he can miss out on approximately 50 to 85 million in potential earnings depending on his competitive performance and the growth of the tour. At the request of the PJ tour, Brooks has also agreed to make a five million charitable contribution, the recipients of which will be determined jointly. Importantly, the returning member program will not take away playing opportunities from current members, fields will be expanded as needed. Other eligible players interested in seeking PJ tour reinstatement must do so by the time the returning member program closes on Monday, February the second. This is a one time defined window and does not set a precedent for future situations. Once the door closes, there is no promise that this path will be available again.

4:15We will continue to aggressively pursue anything that enhances the fan experience and makes the PJ tour stronger. This is part of our commitment to fans who expect the world's best players to compete on the PJ tour, week in and week out. As an open letter from PJ tour CEO Brian Rolap, quite a lot to digest there. Huge, huge implications. I think probably having a window that shuts, having literally a transfer window, which we're pretty, you know, over here in the UK, we're pretty set with that in Europe. We know exactly what that is. Having this no promise of there being another time where this could happen or where the consequences wouldn't change, I mean, wow. So between now, we're sitting at January the 12th when this was announced

5:16and February the second, we're talking three weeks for players on live who are thinking they would like to come back to PJ tour having to make a decision. So again, let's go over those financial repercussions on this returning member. So the first one, a five year full feature of potential equity in the PJ tours player equity program. Now, what is that when it's at home? Okay. So this is the PIP as it was kind of known but PEP. So it is that thing that we see when they get a certain amount of money at certain times the year. It's a big deal because guys earn massive sums of money based on their popularity. I believe

6:18and how well the tours doing and their status and everything like that. So it is large amounts of money but it doesn't really impact the golf side of things so much. It's more of a heavy slap on the wrist for your damaged dog products. You're not going to see that but it's five years. Brooks is not an old guy. I think Brooks is 32. I want to say 32 or 33. So he's going to be 37, 38 by the time this is over and potentially still in his prime. So big deal for the time but not a huge amount and then there's five million charitable contribution as well. And that is it. That is it. As far as, you know, we consider how much Brooks signed for which was a huge, huge

7:23sum of money over a hundred million dollars I believe. It's not the end of the world for a music really and many will look at that coming back. Look at John Rom. We're all thinking it. Look at John Rom. Now I think this is a very sneaky is clever but I think this is very sneaky criteria from the PJ. So John Rom won the Masters in 2023 year before Scotty. Okay. So he fits that mold of player of who they want to come back. There are others that fit the mold. You look at cam. This is what's bad, right? They go to live and I have forgotten their names. Cam. It's not Cam young. Cam. You're stroning. Cam. Him. Why has that gone out in my head? Well, because he went to live. But he won the Open Obviously in 2024. Well, 23 is one of the two. So he reaches that criteria. Players, championships, everything

8:31like that. This is fascinating. You know, who doesn't get into this? Phil. Phil does not get into this. And that's no particular price and gets into this. What they've basically done, which is a masterstroke from Brian. They've gone to the best players on live without actually going to them. And they've set a president with groups that you can come back. You can keep all your live money. Or, you know, however, however much you were able to get and whatever the finds are for leaving. You can you can keep that. You've got to make a five million charitable donation. You got to forfeit the the pit money, which they probably expected anyway, but only for five years. So younger guys, five years. The charitable donation is a is a positive spin

9:35on it. And they've gone to live the rest of the players that you took. We're not interested in them anyway. This is huge. You are going to feel the shock waves of this for the next three weeks and beyond in the world of golf. This right here could be the biggest letter in golf history. Mark my words, because we thought the split and the shift and everything I like was huge. This is massive. This is the end of live. If this goes the way I think it might go. Now, who do I think's coming back? John Rom will 100% come back. Now, what sanctions can live put in place for members that signed a certain amount of years, you know, deal. It's thinking looking at

10:36this. Somebody who really doesn't benefit from this would be to Manhattan. He doesn't he doesn't meet that elite performance base criteria. So what if he's to return, it's going to be a different different thing for him. You know, I believe he want to play as pretty sure to happen when the players. So that's that's big. Also, by the way, what a win for the players championship. You know, everyone talked about it. Fifth major. I think this is Brian Rolap saying we are making the players the fifth major as well. To include it in this list and miss out other big sort of elevated tournaments. Fifth major coming soon, I reckon. But yeah, huge, huge, huge news in the world of golf. The fallout from this is just going to keep coming basically.

11:40Oh, straightaway Brian brosin on it. That means Wesley isn't suspended anymore from playing YouTube scrambles. Bigger fish. There are bigger fish with this sort of announcement. Yeah, it's I mean, this could be monumental. Bryson, John Ram. I mean, you take those two away from from live just those two alone. I mean, that would be a huge hit. And then who's not saying that there might not be another type of transfer window that happens here and the perhaps the criteria changes. This is the elite performance criteria or elite player criteria. But happens if there's not just a level down from that, you know,

12:43you know, a wonderful, wonderful Wednesday window. I don't know. Anyway, massive news in the world of golf. I'd love to hear your thoughts on that. Get into the comments, leave your thoughts, head over to Instagram, send me a DM, what you think is going to happen. And yeah, this is going to be, this is going to be a pretty unbelievable next few weeks. More to that. We'll come on the broadcast without a doubt. There'll be news. So I'll try and bring it you every week up to date as I can. And let's see who's coming back. Brooks Kepka back. Filled sizes, increased. Pathway reinstated. Brooks at the players again, that's nice. That's just a nice thing to see. Let's hope more of them come back. And again, it's not because I'm against live golf. It's just

13:44it, it depletes a product, doesn't it? When you, when you share the wealth amongst two, three tours, you know, bring them all back together. And let's see what happens from there, you know, but hell of a statement from the PJ tour really, really is. And, and very, very interesting. But, hey, I had to bring you that, that was exciting. Needed to be said, but this week's guest is brilliant. I went to go and see James shop. We had a little back back and forth very friendly, as I, as I say, in the, in the episode on Instagram, just regarding aim point. And he very kindly invited me down to East Brighton, where I've been quite a few times and said, look, I'll teach you aim point. And, and you, if you don't, if you don't change your mind, don't change your mind, but it's worked amazing for me. And I just want to share that with as many as I can. So I'm not too stubborn to not

14:45look at change and to treat it as a learning experience. So went and of course, everything was frozen, as you can guarantee, couldn't get on the greens. But what James did kindly do is give me a lesson, which has been just game changing for me, early doors. He's taught me things in my swing that, I never, I never thought existed. It was, it was honestly amazing. And James is a fantastic real air of information and making it pertinent and cohesive and digestible for you, which is, which is what's great. It was, it was honestly transformative. I've since that, I've been practicing a lot because I've sort of fallen in love with strike again, pretty much. I've been using the strike wedge just to guarantee that I am getting the feel of all first contacts. But the changes I've made, I'll maybe go into

15:47a bit more depth in future when I've, when I've definitely locked in a bit more with it. But it's been transformative. James is on skill list, which I know he talks about with Andy Carter as well, earlier, earlier on in the podcast. And it's a really great app. I've been using it since the lesson with James just to go back over all the things he sort of taught me and to use the shadow pro feature, which was great because when I was at the range, it was basically giving me a, a proper range session broken down into as many balls to implement the changes that I've made. So it literally takes that lesson and shadows you on the range with it, which was awesome. So couldn't, couldn't more highly recommend James. I'm going to make sure I keep saying this in episode sometimes that I forget to put it in the description, but in the description will be a link to James's skill list page. He does free evaluations, send him over your swing. He will come

16:48back to you and you can go on from there. Great guy. I hope you're going to enjoy this conversation. I have to apologize. Sometimes when I take this podcast on the road, I can't guarantee the same quality as when I do it from home. I haven't got the set up yet. I don't have somebody sitting behind the camera to tell me when things have gone wrong. This podcast is still in its development. So the audio quality wasn't amazing. Unfortunately, we kind of got cut off a couple of times because the camera stopped recording and yeah, I've learned a few lessons from it and I'm going to apply it to future podcasts on the road on how I'm going to do things. But stick with it. It's broken into two sections, but hopefully I'll be able to combine them so you don't notice too much and I've improved the audio as best I can. So hopefully it's still listenable for you as the listener. Thank you so much to everyone that listens and let's head

17:50to this week's episode with James Shaw. Which I express, thank you very much for having me down. It's nice to have you down and hopefully introduce some of your golf. Yeah, so we had a lesson. And it was really interesting because it's kind of those things that I would never have been able to explore myself. You know, I think we discussed it. Maybe you could talk to it a bit more. Yeah, I was trying to do a little too much. Almost in the swing to get things where they needed to be. I mean, we're trying to get in our own places, weren't we? But I understand how you get that. That goes with everyone that comes in. If you've looked on a YouTube or you've looked on Instagram or even if you've had other lessons sometimes understanding the cause and effects in the golf swing. So for the year obviously you would come down and you'd come and you'd come and you would come down steep in history and you'd learn the way of getting it to not come down steep. But you never addressed the part about body angles that you had to start with. That's what we really spoke about mainly was getting body angles right as I think

18:55feels easy. That was your feedback a lot of the time was that it feels a little more natural yeah, it feels nice. And it feels simpler which is yeah, the main thing we do that I'm always looking forward and trying to coach is that the person grasps it without me, you have to understand it and give a terminate dossier on what needs to change. Yeah, these boots and I will come in a way today from the lesson we've done by thinking not about a thousand different faults, which always the people who listen to the ball goes no, but probably for years by a stay away from golf lessons. Because everything I'd seen was turning me and I'll be going to come away with just a hick-foot swing balls. You know, it is the old adhesion, it's not how they actually are, but especially sometimes that is that's definitely true. I see too many people when they've had a lesson and you listen to what they're trying or what they're doing, but I hope that isn't what you've been told. I hope it's your interpretation. Yeah, it's from a professional standpoint, I don't think that it is always, that it's an interpretation, I do think that sometimes

19:55people make it a little bit more complicated than they need to, whether that's because they don't understand it well enough themselves or whether that's just a start of the coaching or don't know. Yeah, it's certainly not my start of the coaching. Yeah, I felt like with your lesson, not there was personality involved in it as well, in a sense of like you could relate things to your game and then translate that. Sometimes they could be a bit of a detachable between like, this is your fault. You know, I mean, that kind of idea, then you come away sort of not only with a thousand falls, you sort of feel bad about people game. It's knowing the work should be around these sorts of stuff, but what exactly? Yeah, but you know, when we brought things down, I'm coming away from it, thinking actually my golf swing is simple enough with the ideas, anyway, a way away from implementing it, making it work. I don't think of that sort of way. I mean, they had a mowering there and you were pretty close to whoever wanted it. Obviously, it wasn't exactly where we wanted it. You don't expect that, but to be able to do that in that short space of time, without me, really have to push you into positions with the shows that you did understand it and you could relate it to what we wanted you to relate it to.

20:59Which is a firm not to touch me, so it was a kind of idea. Exactly. I think I want it from you as possible. It's actually a mistake. The big point. I think that what you said there is about relating, I think that's one of the benefits of my background as a player is that I still play and so compete and I still go and see people myself for my own game. I'm not in a position where I encourage myself, because I think that's almost impossible. You can't see yourself in real time and you can't objectively look at your own golf swing, that's in the things you don't like. Yeah, but I can relate to that journey of trying to master it. We're all trying to master this sport, aren't we? Someone would get further down the line and that was, but none would ever get a master it fully. And you're just trying to pass on some of the things that I've learned over that period of time that I think might be helpful for you, because at the end of the day, I've been doing it for a long time and I've made plenty of mistakes and I misunderstood things plenty of times, which is possibly got me to a point where I can explain it in such a simple way. Yeah, well, let's explore that. I always ask guests the same question pretty much every week if I

22:03remember, which has happened a few times where I haven't. But what's your earliest memory of picking up a golf club, being at a golf course, whatever it might be? What's your earliest memory? So there's probably two. One would be before I actually started playing golf. I remember kind of just chipping with some balls around the garden with my dad's clubs and pretty sure they'd gone shopping with something and they got back and my dad wasn't very happy that that's how I had his golf clubs out and was chipping them around. And maybe they should have taken the hint earlier that I was interested in golf. But really it's starting and you said, and my school did it activity this week, it was the last week of time, rather than watching stupid DVDs, doing some different things. I was a golf, was one of the options, I think, getting designed was another answer. So you had some cool ideas. And I think it was more that the teachers too, don't they go from anyone that they'd excuse to play golf for the weeks, say, that's fair, like, absolutely, yeah, I understand that. And my birthday was like two weeks before that. Sorry, it was the only birthday present that like didn't know what I was getting. And I've got

23:04a set of golf clubs. It didn't last long, funny enough, they actually got run over at golf clubs that I grew up up to. And we're moving about, so that's two months of having them. A big long story, but I had a guy been in the bathroom a little bit too long, drove over the clubs and gave me as it too much money from the clubs that I'd had. So I upgraded them pretty quickly, which is nice. But I also jumped on golf very early. If you go that old summer, all the day I was playing, I had a friend who played. So I would say the earliest memory was I said, it was me chicking around on the go, but really it's that first summer. I mean, just falling in love with golf from playing every day and never expecting to get as far as I did. So when did things progress? So I guess from then we parried to its competitions relatively young as well. Yeah, so I started when I was 12. And first junior membership was about six months after I'd started playing. So I made a decision on my own date of the season, I didn't need my money. And they would pay for my membership. It wasn't expensive at the time. I'll introduce you

24:05that you had a cap and a couple of our mates were playing at the time. So they were already members. So it was kind of a low brainer. I would say it probably took me 15, 16 when I've got down to single figures. So three years to go from 43, my first handicap to, but down to nine. I remember actually it was funny that it was that. Of course, it was the first time I broke off nine, three hundred apart from nine, didn't win tournament. This idea that the new handicap system is broken. It's been broken for a year. Don't worry about that. That's too much to be read for Yeah. I went from nine to four in about three days on the old system, which I don't know if you can remember the old system. That was a pretty big cut. Yeah. And that was around 15, 16 before I didn't went to college. It was never great as an amateur. I mean, it was you got to scratch some people, but I'm not great. That's pretty good. But not in terms of going on to be a pro and winning didn't have one. Yeah, we probably wouldn't have predicted that at 16, 17, 17, 17, certainly wouldn't have predicted it. I don't think I would really for sort of

25:10future engulfment was a career. I'm not going to just play it because I enjoyed it. I can't just fell that long. What do you think was holding you back at that time? I mean, I was self-taught up until when I went to college. So I looked back at some of my old swings and they were pretty bad. But in some respects, that was a good thing because it allowed me to just develop skill. And my own kind of understanding was how to swing the club. As much as that's maybe caused problems in trying to change habits over the years, I think the skills are always the most important arts of golf. I think that does get also learned sometimes it from our lectures when, like so, when you go have a lesson, you changeable technique, but you're changing it to try and control the skills about that tool. So my first real problem, less than was at college, that was probably the time to help me back the most in terms of I hadn't had any lessons and then suddenly I had to try and change my swing. And being 16, 17, obviously, there's quite a lot of other distractions that were coming into your life at that time.

26:14Trying, I guess I just navigated that, then some of us did, surely in a good respect. But I don't think there's, you can never look back at it, it'll spin, or it held me back, or it did, or it didn't, because everything leads you to where you ended up getting to. And if I hadn't been, I'd bring in the way that I did, and I'd probably be a decoction now, and I might not even be in golf. Yeah, that's interesting to say about. So obviously, being a coach now will obviously get to that, how we got to that, maybe a little later on, but just want some thinking about it. When you talk about being a junior and learning skills, and maybe doing some things wrong, but kind of playing with it and adapting. Do you think, when sometimes you see juniors that are over, well, I put it, they're kind of over the coach. Overcoached, yeah. And it had tried to perfect swings and all those tough swings. I think it's a big scene that I like. Yeah, I'm the same. You see some juniors now that, you know, I want to go for specialised at the age of 9 or 10, which to me is completely wrong,

27:19I played as a sport growing up, and I'm a big believer that me, the fact that I, because I didn't have a support in front of me, I would touch up it in my hand, if I didn't have that, I would click it back in my hand, if I didn't have that, I was doing something else. Yeah, you know, I even gave a rough video go for one game, I broke my nose, so I did that up, but I gave it a go. Every sport possible, I would go and play, and I think that would put me in a good step to trying to stand just like where fits in your body are, and you've been supposed to times, is essentially that I hadn't called a nation, and that was transferable into golf, whether it did it instantly or whether it's, there's a better way of doing it, I don't know, but definitely I think this specialisation of younger players, where they're either very technically minded, or they're not allowed to practice in a way that is the way that normal juniors would practice, you know, like, iron comps, chicken comps, as much as they may not be from a coach's standpoint, the perfect practice session.

28:21The most important thing, I think for jerky is that they do engage and they enjoy it, and they stop enjoying it, it's when you see them drop off, and I've seen numerous good players that were ever coached, as youngsters get to 16, 17, 18, and just go and map, and I'm not doing this anymore, yeah, I don't want to go and actually have a life for, I want to go and play some other sports, because maybe they're never taken out the football team, so they didn't want to or, yeah, they had to drop cricket, because they didn't want to, and yeah, I think that they end up almost despising golf, because of what it costs, and rather than the fact that they want to play. Yeah, that makes sense completely easier, I think, like what you're saying, the fun is under the most important aspect, all that, I think when there's not other jayers around, you're locked into your own drill, you're in a training, and all that stuff, it's kind of, you hear now, people who are in, you're made in the getting, and still in the game, well, it's their 40s and 50s, and all of them wish they were back in junior,

29:22chilling competitions, you know. I was lucky, because the junior group that I grew up with, they're all my mates now, should like me grow up, we spend all day as we day at the golf course, there's no better way to get better at golf than Liz at the golf course, essentially. You don't see that as much now with the safeguarding and things, which is fine, like I get it, they need to be there, but it doesn't mean that up until the age of sort of 14, I'll be left on your own at the golf course, which puts a lot of pressure on the parents to spend extra time, and then one on the day would drop me to the golf course, but they'll know and see me again till six o'clock, seven o'clock, that night, goes now, it's like the parents need to be here, which you live next to the United Time, but that child potentially has to practice and learn, and into the day, that's the biggest time for them to learn, isn't it? It's when we've got no other priorities in the life. Yeah, I agree, yeah, you could just have fun on without feeling involved, you know, and also parent-printer pressures, all right, because it carries only, you see, probably at the

30:23most football, but with golf, if that's only a show that was true at Chippencom. I think you say it as much as golf actually is. Yeah, that's what we've found, I've said, yeah, it's not as open because people are shalving, okay, but you definitely see it from the way that the kids are, and they'll go off and maybe practice, and I'll be just a little comment, so I'll surely be doing that, you know, surely that maybe is the better off doing this, what should you do every morning, that's like, what should you do every morning, it's not a job yet, no, that is serious. Yeah, if you want to practice and you want us to do a stretch, is it great? Yes, amazing, but if that's almost a skill of itself, sure, but it's not something you can force upon it. You've got two types of parents that do that, ones that have already been successful themselves, and maybe they can't remember being young, they just remember what they would like, because almost it's a professional themselves, and they've just started a little bit earlier, they've been better, and they try and ingrain that at a young age, and then he's got the ones, I think it's just ignorant, really, it's where they weren't as good as they wanted to be,

31:24you know, given sport, and they really won that child to be really good, and they think that the best way I was doing this, just forced yourself, yeah, you know, you will go to the range, like a woods did it, so Tiger Woods and Mum and Dad were like this, and so therefore I should be like that. When Tiger Woods is Mum and Dad, created an absolute winner, it might have been in the best golfer of history, my parents down, I've never saw Jack play, but I can't imagine he did what Tiger could do with a golfer, but would you want Tiger as your son, as in a human being, sure, they created a winner? Yeah, and if you want to create a winner, then maybe, yeah, force the kid, but that comes with some risk, because I'm heavy price, if you hold that thing, don't become a winner, then society will do their own disadvantage, you know? Yeah, if you see Tiger Woods now, he's still uncomfortable in certain situations, which are normal because of the way he's brought up, it's just golf. And two of his toys, I would at least stop now,

32:25the E1. Oh, I don't get the wrong, I want to see it, but it's one of those where there's that 1% chance he wins. If I think there's a 1% chance he wins, he thinks there's a 1% chance, it's a minimum that he's going to win, and all the time he's got someone like that, there's some sniffs thinking he could get a winning, he's going to come back and do it, and he might keep failing there, we might want to see him stop at some point, but there's plenty of times where normal people would have stopped. Oh, before, and he wouldn't have done what he's done, so he's able to say something like, he is just different. If I'm looking at it, like, I don't know, playing football, I'm done, you know, I'm done playing football, I was the ankles, they're finished, Tiger Woods and I have like 12 surgeries and get back out of there again, it's just a different, like you were saying, a different kind of fish. He's built different, he's bought it differently, and it comes back to that bit earlier when you said, I do like anything, he's holding me back, and I doubt Tiger regrets too much to off his upbringing because it meant that he would

33:28lose some of the edge that he had as a winner. Yeah, as much as maybe he would maybe fin kill, which would have been a bit of a bad time, you can't be a bad, bad, bad, and also be an absolute killer on the golf course. And I think you see that in some of those just in Thomas and Jordan's beef, yeah, as I started to have some parental and family responsibilities that girls were dropped off because they can't keep up with the same levels that they used to be available to. So I'm going to do it to Scotty. Well, we're going to ask about you. Scotty's the only person. But Scotty gets, Scotty sticks away from all of the other stuff. Sure, he's got family and Godf, like he doesn't do marketing, he does, he does, he's dead, a bit of a minute to views, you know, his world number one, and he doesn't care. In that respect, it's the closest thing we've seen to Tiger, not just on the golf course, but in the way that he deals with the media because I don't care whether you like me. I'm world number one, you're going to have to talk to me anyway. Yes, you know, if I want to go spend two weeks with my son, I'm going to go spend two weeks with my son because I'm world number one. Yeah, whereas Rory

34:30always felt like Rory's, he enjoys being the next Tiger. He enjoyed that, I think, but he's been on this with himself because he's not a Tiger. He hasn't got that edge, and I think he enjoys having some Tiger away from golf. I think he enjoys being in the Superstar that he is, because I never get that feeling with Tiger, Royal Scotty. It was almost like it was a bit, gets in the way. Yeah, the machine was not shit. Tiger could not do an interview. He would have not done it in the interview, whereas I feel like Rory likes to get up over and give his two pants. Yeah, as he does. Yeah, well, I was just hearing sticks football the other day, and he was talking about, you know, he says he's always going to stay away from talking about his ears, and even the rider cuff may sort of sit back, I'm not talking about it anymore, it's done. And the other two subjects he basically talked about was living on the rider cart. I mean, he was pretty shocked me, he was saying that excitedly that I heard it before. We'd also heard all the stuff about his wives, some of them just throwing it with beer, and it was in our lap, or he said on there,

35:31was that they were actually holding a piece, and that all makes a thought. Yeah, I mean, it was just, it was a good rider cuff, but I don't think 99 at football was worse, that it was any better. I think football was probably worse when he listened to what happened. Yeah, yes, I mean, I'm not Rory's biggest fan. I never has been, I'm not, I don't like the way he flips lots on things. And like he said there, he goes, I'm not going to put one two cents in, and then he does. Rory's pain's very well by the P.J. tour to Torey's certain narrative, and it's very clear to me that he does Torey that narrative. And when he chooses to tackle it, it's when P.J. tour won him to attack it, and when P.J. tour were sort of flirting with Liz, his stance suffered on to, well, you know, and then you can tell how those negotiations are going pretty much by how Lori's been to dress yourself. So that's why I'm not a big fan of it. She thought it was probably the only person that didn't want it into win. Really? And the master, see, you were watching that master's and you're like, you wouldn't just,

36:34it was probably the only person celebrating Patrick Reed. I was worried Patrick Reed was, I would have happily told people, it's not Rory in himself. It's more, it's more of a fan's fair that follows it. It's a bit like, you know, Tiger had a fan fair, and I kind of felt like he deserved it. I mean, you know, people were like, it's Tiger again. He's the other one who's going to win. Rory, I'm glad he's done it because now where we go to the master's anyway, I just have six months of, he said, well, he don't, but that's the last sign. Let me deal with that. Paul's again, he went venting in every four shots. He is a rollercoaster of Adolfa. That's his style. So I always question whether he's chapter caddies and stuff last year. What's the system Lee? Most of them think is caddy nearly costume. I know statistically people were say 16 or 15, 16, 17, 18, I've seen it badly around with this one in 28,000 chance. To me, that shot, he hits on 15 where he hooks it 40 yards on the wind and covers the water by a yard tells me he had the roller club in 1999 percent of time. And he

37:38just happened to get lucky that he hooked it enough back onto the flag. Most times, that's in the water. And we're talking about another, another choke, which is why I also think it's hard to say that he chokes. I don't think he chokes. I think he just plays a style of golf. So yes, where he's always throwing that line off, not really being sensible. We let's see if ocean's get too many tapes on shots. It should a bit like Phil. Yeah, Phil was thrown away many at 12 minutes as well. Don't think he's seen as much of the choker. No, that's a, I mean, as much as I don't like Rory, I'm doing things harsh to call him a choke because he's, he's had tournament snatched from him because much as he's lost it. Yeah, no, I mean, Jordan's speech a few years ago. I'm probably the only person on the planet that says he didn't choke that. Well, Keith, because when he watches golf that week, he was horrendous. You know, he was due a bad shot. We just said it at a long time. And Rory's a bit like that where he watched and he just goes, he's always, he's leaned in there. Some of him doesn't want him to win. He was like, he's going to give us a chance there. He feels like he's not going to pull up. Yeah,

38:39that when he goes forward with the head. It's what you do. It's so fun. You know, I'm sitting there thinking we say it's done. It's hitting shots here where he's given me hope. And if he's given me hope, he's going to rise and have a bite. Whoever it is that's chosing it down. I don't think he ever really looks like he's just going to cruise through a fine round, which clearly didn't. And you look at the caddy relationship or see what they good makes and stuff, but I think I think he's a top top caddy. I think he's a very good mate and he probably takes worry out of the moment in several occasions very well. And he said to me, like, eight years of taking a play. You know, he was bad at round like the most special commentable time. I think 99% of people would have said that to him. Because he's trying to think, I'm so good at it. Hey, would you take a play off of it? It kind of feels like a natural thing to say for anyone. That's why it's all biased and arrogant with me. But I was saying someone will, you know, put Ted Scott on Rory's back. And the choice is Ted Scott can lead Scott to

39:43all sometimes. I just don't think when you listen to Rory talk and it comes back a little bit to why I don't like him. I just don't think I think he employs, yes, men, because he doesn't like the challenge. I think some of the people I've heard who were in there went, you went to see Pete Cowan didn't like the fact that Pete Cowan, you know, you can imagine Pete Cowan, the auction owner, he's not going to go, oh, Rory, you know, it's all fluffy unicorns. It's like, no, you're not doing this. Why aren't we doing this? And I don't think Rory liked it. And at the end of the day, that's part of the coach player relationship. I'm not saying he has to like it, but I do think he would have won nine or 10 majors had he not been like that. Which is someone who doesn't particularly like him is not the worst you know, but if I was advising, I would certainly be saying that you know everything you shouldn't be doing in your goal. So I loved what he was working on last winter. I loved it because it was everything I even have challenged. I'm cold. Your cold winter golf is very much here. So there's dream of that

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41:50We mentioned the boring line. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a very darned and just like, haxing it. Yeah, it's up and down. Yeah, anyway, it's already set up. That's why I don't know, because we're on to aim point. Yes, we haven't already got that already. We're on to aim point, which is the reason why I'm here because we had a little back and forth on Instagram, a friendly one, friendly one that can be done, everyone. I sort of came at it from you uploaded, I think it was Ryan Dingell who's here and hit him, learning a bit of aim point. Yeah, so basically it clips up less than similar to what we did. Yeah, and today obviously he's played a lot with me through the year and when we came in pro rounds, I always read the dreams for him. He hasn't done it for pretty much everyone because I tend to find most people read the dreams pretty poorly and I read them fairly well, which again kind of leads into why I do and why I'm such a big believer in it. But it was just the clips up. A video of me showing him how to do it. My explaining the process behind it, why you need a spirit level, how the percentage works,

42:51and then obviously finished with him on the part, which was first attempt. We were mentioning about first attempt, so I didn't really know how to do it, but it was first attempt as well. It was about 3% slope part and you could hear out, I don't know, in the longest format one, maybe not the one that was posted on me on Instagram, but you can hear him kind of the same way. He thought you would aim it and he's a pretty good goal for rotation three. And he was our sort of two or three inches on the seven rates in part. And we were talking about how that can be. The effect is base control and his start line. If he's trying to match those things up, if he hasn't got the correct starting point, because there is a just one correct point on a very combat, it depends on the pace that you hit it at. Ain't point always talks about an or an inches past you trying to keep that consistent, which is one of the variables that I do like at the end point where the pace is always the same. It will always judge in every part. So you never get this idea of, you know, I just want to straighten this up like it harder. No, the break is the break. I hit it at the same pace that we're telling you, it's less there, it's less there, don't try and hit it at the center and hit it hard. So I make this the whole smaller. The whole smaller, it's already four or inches. Anything I want it bigger.

43:58So, and that was the main part of that video. And obviously you've got your belief on Ain't point. And I, as I said before, and I said it came up one before we cut off, but we were just saying that to me, a lot of the beliefs that people have stemmed from like the commentary and stuff on the sky and stuff they see online. And you have to remember that a lot of that stuff is dictated by the brands. And the brands want you to buy a new bottle. They don't want you to learn a new part of the system, because they don't make any money out of that. And, you know, that you could say that pretty much about anything dry was science, you know, all of the stuff that they put out, but especially in parts in, I see some of you people misread in parts. And then automatically saying, I've pushed through a pool, but you look at them and they didn't, you were actually aiming in the completely wrong spot. They got you, it's less to right. You know, did it turn from less to wrong? No, well, you misread it, that's it. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I think when you posted you, you put it deep like, you know, do you think it's slower? None of my issues are with the high as she's in the pace of play. Saga that he's going on in the game of golf to do

45:02the moment. He said, it's a saga. It's a dull and it's boring. I don't know if I don't go and play golf to brace around. That's number one. Yeah. Don't want to race around it off. That's not fun. Sure. I was thinking, is the, is the actual model, but he might love racing around in the normal half. That's not for me. And that's not for the 19 knowing point nine percent of the pulsing world. I mean, as well, you've got to remember that the pace of play, and I've done a couple of videos on this before, especially in the majors have been played in some some bigger events. You know, the RTV coverage, you have to remember that there's no letting through because it messes up a TV coverage. So you've got, you haven't got a referee with every group in most weeks, but the majors sometimes you will on the final two days, but there is not enough referees to go with every single group. And then on the weeks where there are pace of play is up. So if you've got a group out first group, and they get a rolling on the first grid, telling us, well, no one can go faster than 10 minutes behind time ago. The next group has a 10 minute rule. Now no one can go

46:03faster than 20 minutes behind time. So by the time you get to the end at six hours, everyone was all our six hours, it's too slow, but that's not nothing to do with it. You can't go any quicker because the pace of play can't be quicker because of those issues, whereas pace of play in the amateur game is caused by a few more ignorances of not playing a provision or not looking for three minutes. They look for five minutes, just generally not being ready to play. Don't see that on the tour and you'll see, you know, perhaps a can later, it's 52 seconds this week to drive up, but he was waiting for seven minutes on the tour. So what's the bigger problem? The fact that he was 10 seconds longer or the fact that he's seven minutes behind and you can say, oh, it's that we're trained as slow moves and juniors are going to copy people, why do the content is not just explain what the issue is, yeah. What are they trying to gain out of pretending there is an issue that is actually there and you could get sorry, but I completely agree, not because I think that everyone should take five hours to get around, I think

47:05amateurs could play quicker, you could definitely speed it up without everyone feeling roughed. I think you're absolutely right, not as well wants to play an hour and a half. And if a one ball comes up behind a four ball and there's no one else in the golf course and just let the one ball through, let him carry on at his pace, you carry on at your side. It doesn't need to become a thing where you've got to come, I was pushing us again, letting through. I'll let everybody, if there's a group behind and there's less of them, or two of us, it's sometimes even if it's a four ball, they are just other very, very good golfers, they're in less shots and they're fast enough to go through. I'd rather have a stop at a halfway heart, have a beer and relax and play. But what you said there is that narrative has been rid of all of pace of play, is an issue and it's been copied from the very top of the game all the way down to the thing. So my aim point was never, you know, a thing for me where I didn't look at somebody on the tele, you know, the things up and things like that, I think, oh, not the, you know,

48:06that's slulling things down. At the end of that, they make two parts sort of three, but you'll be falling. I think my thing with aim point was always that I was somebody that probably struggled with pace and nothing. And one of the things that I found helped me again, not to a great standard, and I did caveat all of this, so I'm just going to be like, James is like, oh, are you better go full than I am? Very clearly, as is right, but it's absolutely fine. I'm not saying that part of it, but my, my own experience was that pace was such a game changer for me, whereas I had a sort of tick from a mate who's a, who's a scratch golfer, and he was basically saying that he always just looks back at time, like when he was just tied up, he said, you know, oh, really the greatest pressure part of. And he would always, you know, get into his position, find his line, you know, ring the green as he did. And then his biggest thing was he'd stare down for a comfortable amount of time and hit the part. And the pace would often as a roach,

49:12you know, whatever he was doing, and it's probably not true as we just said, but when I started doing that, I did fall by cutting goal, fall for bet. And I think it's the most underrated aspect all everyone, because everyone focuses on the percentages. As I said, it's nine inches past, is the pace we're always looking at. So what I did to find, certainly when I was practicing at the beginning, was I would read it correctly, but my pace would be wrong. So I'd hit it two foot past, and before I'd go, I'd pulled that. But now I was so aware of the difference that 18 inches could make to the intended love. And now my pace control became, because I was constantly trying to practice to such a high level of pace control, you know, nine inches past. If the ball goes in the hole, and it's going three foot past, and I'm in a pronoun, I'll laugh quite often, because I'm like, I've misread that, or I've not started on my intended line, but the ball's gone in the hole, so I'm not going to stand there again, upset about that. And then conversely, you'll get others where you'll go, I've read that absolutely personally, and you know, it's boggled

50:13off line. But I just think the average amateur, to have that clarity of what is, you know, two percent, right? And you can get really good at it. I don't believe that there's anyone out there that can't get good at it. I know something, but I can't feel it, my feeling, when you can, because when you're walking on a side, so that you don't just top alone, sure, but you can feel it, whether you want to admit you could feel it, or whether you're in tune enough with your balance to feel it, but that's all you're doing is reverse engineering something that you already do. And that goes back that lesson that we had earlier, where you already know that just when the golf, but you just didn't know, you didn't know that the swing will go for the goal. Yeah, that's all we have to get out of you was, what can you relate it to that you already know how to do? And that's all ain't what really does in my opinion is it takes something we're already good at and makes it into a way of reading the Greens. And it's not for proof, right? Using the best putt greens in the world. I'm not good enough. From 20, 30, if I read it right, I'd start it online with the right

51:14basic going, 100% of the time. And that's part and parcel of the skill of putting this to accept that most of the time you're going to fail in putting. You're going to two putt more than you will putt, but the best putt is in a world that tends to give it a chance. That's what people already play with me say. I've had a lot of people say that as every putt looks like it's got a chance, you thought, you know, and that's what allows me to then hold wallputs than the average person does. And for me, it's been an end point. That's been a massive change as much as I've had putt in lessons and I've worked on my technique and I know my own traits. My technique is not improved more than my green reading hours. And in that period. And you said, that's probably, you know, you were saying, we've torn them, and things are like, you obviously get all the percentages of the greens, but green books, four hatchers, a green book, obviously, you know, amateurs aren't getting that. So I would use saying in many ways, it's probably more important of the skill for amateurs because they're not long as towards the end of my time on on out to the challenge, I wasn't actually buying the green books because I was that confident in

52:18what I was doing in my field. I didn't even need the green book. And the green book was only accurate. It's the pins actually. I mean, now on dp world, they've got four people probably checking every pin to the exact yard. Some of our pins, you would be surprised how bad they were. And and he's been playing DJ Pro Am's, you know, they chuck out some pins and you go, well, that has never been. You know, I think we had one that the biggest event last year. And it said it was 40 on, but the green was 38. And you look at that and you go, oh, temp, over the depth isn't correct. Or the pin isn't correct. And you go in and they kind of describe this. Oh, is that not, you know, it doesn't matter. But it does matter. Of course it matters. I'll just pin in a little. Well, yeah, it's to be also in the back of the vulnerable, called into the book. But it's not. It's either the green depth is wrong, which means that if I'm looking at a green book and I'm trying to find where 38 is on or four years on, I don't actually know which area to. So I can get a rough idea. It's helpful for your certain shots. But when when you're planning

53:19you've got two practice rounds, you're hitting multiple shots into greens. You've probably played that tournament three, four years in a row anyway. You're just getting an idea of what it, you know, how it's playing for that week. You're not really learning the golf course. I would get green book absolutely on a new course, because I would find that really helpful more for the second shots. But it kind of comes back to that when I said, well, you know, everyone really uses a form of own point on tour. Either they're caddy, uses it, or they use it, you know, and obviously probably if anyone in the top 100, either they're caddy or them, I'm pretty sure I already darned when it did. I'd be incredibly surprised if he hadn't, because it's just, you don't see the caddy's doing them really well. Sometimes you kick, you glimpse it, don't you're on the TV where you see the guy in the background, but really we're watching so many shots. We don't see that a little bit before it's in the final bit. And you see it in the final round when people then go like slow because the caddy's in. You've got no caddy's been in on every part. But if he's in on the final round and he's in on every shot, yes, people are not changing

54:19coming down the stretch. Yeah, it was to go in part time. Yeah, that does make sense. Did they've been doing that? And you've seen it before, it's the 1%. Right, everyone's searching for that 1% is that 1% then it makes sense. Oh, you know, I use a shame, but we couldn't do it today. So I was genuinely using it because I don't get me wrong. Like everyone probably listening, watching, whether it may be, you've definitely tried it at some point with no knowledge about actually what that always makes me laugh at some when people watch me and then they're like, oh, you briefly tell them, yeah, I was doing that the other day and they start using the fingers and you go, I've never even taught you like how do you know it's a one. Oh, it's about a one isn't it? Oh, I've done that. Is it? I'm sure of that. Well, I'm just like, how am I thinking possible? You know, it's a one. You don't know what one is. You never measure the one. I've got some silly ideas of what could be the issue with it. All right. Come on. That is the fingers. Yes, so there's a calibration for whips with fingers. Really? That's one of the first

55:21things you do when you learn it is the calibration. So my fingers will be maybe narrower than yours. That's why some people will stand out, I'm people will be over the ball and then the length that you have to hand out in front as well as to do the speed of the green. And is that generally arm's length? Is that kind of what's true for me? Seven and a half is when I stand over the ball on the other side of me. And then as it gets quicker, I move two foot back. Oh, it's the calibration distance. Yes. So I take two feet. That's my my process is a stand over the ball. Depth out two feet. Yeah. And then I hold my hand out. That's a eight and a half because eight and a half still leaves the mid. Nine and a half is slightly closer, telling the half and you would do that on the bottom green. I would before the round or if it's a bigger than you would do that during the week. And it does actually make you aware of how bad some of the golf courses are at reading their own stints. Would you say as you should, because I know they're doing this aim point, what's it called? Aim point last saw aim point. It's like a fault. Aim point express. Aim point express. Would you say that maybe would be the issue with something like that would be that

56:23people learn too fast and I mean, little things like that. I mean, that's that's quite a lot of calibration. So you can go and sit. I went and saw Jerry Donaldson of those pretty much the best person down at work with Europe. I it wasn't that way, but he came down this way. And I went and saw him 2015. I think I've been doing a long time now. I've never really gone back to see him too many times. I've saw him once, got enough for the information and I think it is one of those scenes where it's turned into a grand now and there are things that they offer that I don't think are necessarily that important. I mean, if I wouldn't maybe re-did it, I would see the benefits of it. But I think you can learn it and I'm probably evidence of that. You can learn it in one session and go away, practice it. And you know, I'm lucky. I've spent time around. I've a priority. I've done a point that you've probably get a couple little things without knowing it. I guess I've got that. So yeah, I'm probably getting reminded of the things I should be doing more often. But generally, parameters, you learn the calibration at the beginning, you learn how to calibrate the speed

57:27of the greens and to work it out. And it's just a logic thing. If you're getting the read and you are standing up, you're eating a half, and you've got your spirit level down and you're hitting the cups and they're turning early, which is fairly easy to assume that that is now annoying in the half. So I can work out the speed of the greens. That was the recalibrate. Yeah. So once you know the information, you've got to work it out a bit. My math is through. Once you know to do one calculation, you've been doing it a million different waves. Yeah. I mean, it's interesting because the rest of the game is almost trying to take away all those thoughts. You know, in the sense of when you're over the ball and you're trying to hit a shot, you've done as much that different the more I think about it, the more actually it's the same. Yeah. That's how I was going to jump in. I was waiting. I said, sorry, that could go on, but that's all in your face. No, it's not. So you know, it does make it because you do all that calibration. So you're you're 108 yards out. You're on a five to five foot to up. So I

58:30you know, taking that into account for the absolute. The winds into you're taking that to the reef. You know, it's got force it on the podcast. And we're like, he's a he's a break everything down trial and make you lost. They got a lot of him. He's I think he's really good. I don't use death hate to the same strictness as in, but I certainly use some of those principles when you start to use it bit more statistically to choose targets on the grounds that I look back. Actually, I had a period, certainly one of my most successful period on out. So I was actually drawing little boxes on my yardage book of where my targets were, depending on where flags were, and they've always safe sides. And I was playing to the center of the box. So I was kind of using death hate before death hate even existed. And I think virtually every good player was doing that and what Scott was really good at is taking that information and making it into such an easy way of someone to learn. And you know, going back to what you're saying, I absolutely think you will do in those calculations before you get shots. You know, you're standing over it for a second

59:31or about under nine yards. First thing you're looking at is, is it up, go down, do a couple of yards down. Where's the wind? Is it out the left? Where's the left? Where's the flag? What's right? Am I going to have to hear to be able to get to that flag? Or hit to my safe spot, is that we're going to add distance or decrease distance, depending on which to fry our shoes? And I'm taking in all of that information, which is why sometimes it probably seems complicated to have our shoes, because they're not maybe taking in as much of that information, they're not used to doing it. Whereas we are, we're used to, I'm still at the age where you have the oldest book, and you're doing the calculations in the book, you do it in the maths as you go, and I've had people, you know, like I've said, I've had it on for you, and I should have taken off for it in the silent. Look, that's just passing off it. Yeah. As much as it does make it sound like you're making goals for quite some artistic, it's already, it is like that. But the more I was thinking about that in my head, why I actually loved that. So I had to get it and be like, my pain's not pretty good enough to worry in some of the toilets, but I loved it. I've loved seeing everyone

1:00:33trying to see me, and I like taking all those factors, because at least then I can walk away from the shop going more, why I was taking all of the thing in, I just didn't have to feed the shop. That's why I can move on, do that again next time. I'm actually now more on thinking about it, because of the way I was framed that is, and she completely reversed that happens on the partner. I probably do for the least amount of calculations when I part, and I just go and feel which, some days, is really weird, but more often than not. I mean, anyone who's got a bit of an analytical mind loves aim point from my experience. You get some field golfers that are kind of still in that traditional, they love the spirit of the game, and they're a little bit stubborn in their mindset of, I don't like it, because it's got a spirit level, and we don't have one of them say years ago. So anything that's new, but they're also like the mind where they don't like to video, they're golf swing, but they're still very much like, I don't want to feel where it's support with opinion. That's great, but, you know, even Jack Nicklaus was using video,

1:01:35and he was driving home from a range session to put it on his VCR, and holding like ruiners up on the TV. So it's nothing new, and even the guys who knew to hold up was most of the boys from traditional golf would, if you gave them these tools, absolutely use it, you know, this kind of comes into that argument of would Jack be a dominant force in today's game? Of course you would, because he'd be in the gym, he was in the gym back in the day, yeah, just you maybe wouldn't be as dominant, because he wasn't out working everyone by as much as he was, yeah, however, is the same, and that's why this year is so kind of clogged up, and there's not much, the emotions out there for a Saturday, yeah, yeah, yeah, so everyone's got the perfect opportunity to just go away and work hard on their game and work efficiently with their time, which really when you think about it, people go out efficient, being efficient with your time is something that the pros do, but they've got the most time. They don't need to be efficient with their time. They can put around for two hours in the park, very often before doing their session.

1:02:35The average person who's working, we just wants to get an hour in practice, needs to be super efficient with their time, just don't want to improve. Makes sense, but believe me, absolutely, no ingly sort of talk myself around, do you think? It's interesting, about absolutely. Yeah, it's interesting. I hope that at some point we'll do it, and I don't know if they'll like it, but I do definitely want to see what it's about, and obviously trying to, oh, I didn't like that, so that's the no-in part, like I look at it, I do like that, so that's one of the things, and I can't deny the least amount of calculations I do, he's on the playing group, where he's probably needed the most, because it's your panel on the ground. We've been watching a video with who's the old guy who's really the part of Andy Benchor, and he was given a lesson to someone, unless I've seen he did, we don't talk about Strowock anything, it just went right fine with straight path, which really is something that you define as a main point, characteristic, find in the straight path, or once you can find the straight path, you can find the breaking path, so he's in these field golfers, they reverse engineer it, they do it intuitively, and then they

1:03:40might not be doing it in the way that I define as Benchor, as I've got his spirit level out, but he's always talked about having the same pace going into the hole, which in the end point, characteristic, which means he always has to have the same main point, which by definition means that we were using my form of that end point without percentages. This may be the challenge, just thinking on the point of flex, something swap talks about quite a lot of scope of force is the the idea of having to persevere, he lights the thought of, it's actually fine to not three feet or nine inches past the hole, he's at every nine inches short. As well as from long distance, I'm not going to be disappointed every nine inches short, once statistically I get to 25, see, you know, I'm trying to hold it, you get it within a range, Jessica says this, but while trying to hold it, he's never telling people to not try and hold it, he's never telling people to not hit it close to the flag, it's just sometimes it doesn't happen. If I'm aiming nine inches past, I'm going to be happy, he was in two feet,

1:04:44probably past, that's going to be a fairly good part for me, which in two to 18 inches short. As long as I'm accepting that the ball isn't always going to go nine inches past, that's just my goal, I'm referencing whether I've read part against that post, so it comes up 18 to 18 inches short and it's bad online, then I've read it correct, but for it to be bang on the line in my break in part means it needs to actually be off the center of the part. If it gets to the hole of it and it misses low side of it, misses high side and goes two and a half foot past, I'm still trying to make that same with you, did I read it correct? Well yes, I did, I just did it foot too hard, then you just take it out to the next and she yes, I'm using it as a reference to review each shot, which is at the end of the day of feedback is the way that you will prove, and the better you will feedback, the more precise you feedback, the quicker that you will prove. And as I said, I think it's the most fun to read, it's in people think of in aim when it was the thing that roughly probably revolutionised my putting more was the way that I was practicing and being aware of there, can't transform how good my taste

1:05:48up became 7, 3, 12, 5, 15, my pace control was just so weird that the hole was at its biggest, and if I read it, it will relate me correctly, the ball goes in the hole. Like you say, I think pace is absolutely can, and because aim point focuses on the slope, you decide to side it, looks like you're not thinking about pressure or anything, but you are, you know, I think, you know, as the unlucky kid he refuses to eat his vegetables and has never tried it, and you know, all those sort of things, you know, it is an ignorant standpoint to be like, he's just about online, because what I've said, I didn't realise that all the other things were taken into account, because I mean, you can't tell, give up on the on the TV, you can, give them sometimes an older putter and they'll have pen marks for that week, do you see them sometimes right, Justin Rhodes does it, yeah, he was his partner, he's got a pen mark, so if it's 14, he comes in here, so that he does the exact, he's trying to make that precision, so he would have

1:06:50been configured for his whip for the feeling, well, some people even configured Robert and left hand, but I get really deep into it, yeah, because if you're using free fingers, you might actually have to configure, because one finger is a failure or another, you don't go to that level, but you can go to that level with it. Wow, yeah, I mean, yeah, okay, okay, it's an only test for the own parts, and I was really hoating several other points, but it was never about, it was never about having an argument about it, but that was his net all of this, but it was always about, you know, me going to you, you're the professional, and you're describing to me why I end up with words, because I'm coming out from it, I'm just always saying, no, why should someone listen to me when I say that it's right, if I can't explain to you what it's right, sure, at the end of the day, I've always, I'm just preaching something that I can't back up, and that's how I've always been, that's how I've stumbled across changing into different swimming models, and yes, why aren't there certain coaches and stuff, because my question in meant, I don't agree with

1:07:51that, yeah, some people are very much like, that's in Johnson's due, if you're told, I've never been like that, that's probably why I've transitioned into coaching from playing so easily, because I understand it, because I've had to understand it in my own, just that's just how my brain works, and if I'm always questioning, then why should I react badly when someone questions me? No, I've got one sort of last sentence of so, Lux said, thank you very much, I'm down today, it was I, I mean, I hope it's glad you made it through the snow, yeah, it's just about, yeah, it's all right, but I know it's going to benefit my game as well, to have those points to work on which I'll be doing in the mirror, more wifey, look at me, absolutely mad, look at my girlfriend, look at my girlfriend, look at my bad, as we reflection out, I find them practicing my set up on my swing, and to be honest, we spoke more about baseball than we did about golf as well, so that's, as Joe just saying earlier, if hopefully that's doing ballcast, he talks about, you know, doing different sports as a kid, that's case important, over why that's important,

1:08:53because you wouldn't understand what that means, I'll always reduce. So understanding that golf is unique in a set that we have that forward boat, you know, and it really complicates us, we swing on a circle and we're in forward burn it, which we don't, we don't do anything else, right, and it complicates it because then he's got this tilted plane and we think we have to try and create that tilted plane, but actually what we were talking about is both you can swing around you like this, and you tilt forward it creates the tilted plane, yeah, so actually he's going to learn to play golf from up here, you don't need us to read and add that bit in, yeah, the complication is that people get tilted down, and that happens as a consequence, another alternative plan, and ball position on the head, I can show my relative to the feet, we're trying to have it. Yeah, it was, it was brilliant, I'd go on and I was present to you, because it was a little bit of a professional knee as well, yeah, probably a little bit of merit for Sussex and for South, that's a very huge cheaper, I don't know how many swimmers did you win, not sure. I see. It was 11 or 12, that's all it is,

1:09:54is that we're all looking sweet, wow, we're winning the world, we're winning the pro-arms, and I, some bro-arms are bigger than others, and some bro-arms are where you just chuck in for me quit as a sweep as a pro, and you're kind of looking after the amateurs more, and others leave you there to win. It feels bad to say with some wins that don't feel like wins can be not, but I guess I'll pay the other little bit, yeah, so you can kind of do go, well, it's another win. It's a nice place to be, when you say something like that, I don't really realise how stupid it sounds. I don't know, I know I'm at about 53 or 54 tonal pro-wins since I've done pro, but I would tell you that that was one was on a main tour, well, we're sure that helps a lot since 2017 or one, that to me is the main, if you say how many proper wins have you got, that's a proper win to me, that are the players that won the European Tournament, so that's to me with pinnacle where I've been in terms of what I've achieved,

1:10:55and as much as winning the South region was really cool, it's not the same level, obviously. It's not the winning, you want to win it, it was part of my goals for the last year, and I'd love to win it again this year, yeah, yeah, it's not quite the same level, so I just stood by that. Will you be playing some of the same sort of stand issue, are you going to know up the level, or should I? So I was actually sitting doing some of my shirts in the end before we came, and I found it very difficult to time what I count while I'm playing the next year, because I'm still trying to grow the coach, and obviously I've had plenty of years off. It's definitely not financial freedom, playing full-time golf, it's the very mostly opposite, you start the year at like 20 grand down and work your way back to zero if you've had a good year, and I am flat now, what was I farting around, you know, there's other things that we want, and your priorities change, so coaching now has to take a bit of a lead on that, it's where I want to play, then I have to fund it through my coaching, and trying to find the right balance between, because I do want to play,

1:11:55I don't think you ever news that, that eagerness to play in, that want to play, but you also have that guild of how I really take a week off, say I'll play that tour, you know, could I just play one day, prolam, and potentially win five or six hundred pounds, it doesn't give me the same bars, because as we've already said, it doesn't feel like a proper win. So it depends over these next four or four months, I'm going to grow the coaching side online, as well as as in person, the idea is at a point where I can take some weeks off to go and actually practice as I'm not, I'm not thinking that I'm at a level where I can just not practice, I'll beat some of these guys, especially the rational about the team, it wasn't really good players, the players that I've played with, the other ones that are on the same journey as me, you see the weeks that they practice, you know, you know, every day, seeing on the PGA championship, having basically one of the boys on the swing, I was a very good player, I didn't challenge tour and ended up playing it today as well, you know, you're not beating the team, you're not

1:12:57coating someone, you know, and also a bit of balance that was putting my time to coach and get something out of it, and I do enjoy the coaching, yeah, yeah, that's just there, because it's pretty not everyone, I thought everyone plays the game in coach. Yeah, and I think it comes with the more you understand it, so does anyone, if there's anyone watching the podcast who's like going into their coaching, just stick with it, it's it's something that as you build your knowledge, it used to be that I only like coaching really, really good players, because you could talk to them the way that you told, you know, teaching beginners is actually the best thing I've ever done, it makes you actually really think what you understand and frame it into their shoes, they say something like, that's off-plane, they look for you, they're like, what pain was there, and you're like, no, no, no, this is the plan, so it was nice in here when you said, oh, you haven't had it, explaining to you, that's simplicity, or hopefully I'm doing my job in that respect, and it can only make you about the coach perhaps you have to into challenge yourself, the same way you're doing what you have to say,

1:13:59it's a different world, of course, it's a different world, it's just to adapt to your game, you have that as a coach as well. Yeah, I'm going to make sure that the show notes will be links to James's on-skillist as well, and which you'll see a great way to communicate, you can be anywhere in the world, and you know, it'd be able to get in touch with James, and he can help you be game, and equally, like you said, the skillist stuff really helps when people are here, because we used it today to show me very quickly, that's the difference between where I started, and where I thinnied, either access to those, maybe those now as well. Yeah, so if anyone wants a free game, valuation on skillists, I do, I do what for that as a free one, and it's just up to follow me on skillists, so if you've got the link below them, they just have to click on that and follow it, and it gives them a bit of the input on their swim. Yeah, I think we'd be below the link to James's socials and below it, up to three good tips on there as well. I was saying before, just authentic tips on the golf course. Yeah, yeah, yeah, what I'm saying on there hits happens that one, do you want happy with how you hit the other one, and it's like, good, that makes me feel better.

1:15:02Yeah, that's why, you must have done it in purpose, I try to split it to the clear of, you know, you see all these quick fixes, and quick 10 seconds, fixed your slice videos, try not to do those, I try to explain a little bit more, a bit like we've done today, explain the value of giving you a fine angle with our way, and maybe it comes across as a different way of explaining that, and hopefully someone will walk to it and go, yeah, you know, that's me, actually, no one's ever explained it to me that way, and whether they come to have a lesson with me or whether it just goes in a range and they find a way, if you did better, that's the goal that that starts through. In all the way from there, I know that there's so much I can do just in mirror, at home, that might find that, we should certainly think it was valuable, especially as some not getting to the goalscores. I'm not big fan of training nights, I've never, I've never really had been amused on this all, but I've never seen them translate too much into a swim, so when someone's got it on, they tend to look good, you know, and they've got it off, so they don't tend to look good, so I'm sort of the area. It looks amazing for social media,

1:16:03you know, it made real good changes, you know, either my guys will tour you, you see them using different things, and then you look at the swimming mirror, that's not 10, 1, a little bit, whereas you need a mirror, you need a wall, and then a ball support, you've got those three things, you can improve your game, and most people, unless you're living in somewhere that doesn't have a wall, in which case you've got bigger problem, you probably should be focusing on something other than your goals. I don't have walls, I don't have a lot of difficulties. You've got to do too much goals, that might be a big advantage to fill in prophecy at that, absolutely. If you have got some walls, then you're good to improve your game, and if you drive a range, has walls, they divide us, and that's the thing that I try and get to people in their coaching, as well as understanding that, what's your perfect, you might want to do in 10 minutes, standing next to the car, or if you need your training mate, you haven't got any stuff to do, if you know that the strike line is helpful, you can do it leaving them against the wall,

1:17:04you could do it leaving them against trolley and aster, I've done that, going to the target, it's got plenty of weird looks, going into the opposite. I love it when you see those walls, and perhaps when they go swing in, like the way it just places, the guy in that club's. I ended up seeing a video of me giving that on the track. Oh really? What he did come up with the idea, but he was like, sharp, you're always doing the swings, and I just videoed it to you. When it comes to the kitchen, I was like, I have my head against the wall, I'm sort of working. That's a good one. She needs it for many, many different reasons. Exactly. Continue to sit there, sit there holding the roof up. So that's when you go, oh, that's the bad thing. Re-design your house, and there's plenty of walls with mirrors right next to it. That's what you want. You want to mirror that, mirror that. Oh, yeah, now it's working. I do actually need to sort it out, but it's swell, some kind of perfect training. So, so I think I did what I got in there, actually someone's broken one of the mirrors, but the first thing I did was buy two mirrors from Dunham. I was like, oh, I can't, I can't. More for me to do with this. When it comes to the house, massive, you know, down the line can be helpful, but most people can video and you can see it playing anyway.

1:18:06So I think the show song was massive. Like I said, when we did it, I always show them down the line first, because that shows the symptoms almost always. It's the face on one that shows the causes. And I think that's probably the angle that most people don't ever see if they're going to go up some aids hardest to get. Well, if you're at a drive, when you can probably balance your club, right against the wall and get a video of the face on, you probably need someone else to grab it. And I think when you look at the analysis online of top players, it's all down the line. Yes. Very rarely do I see anything from face on. In fact, the first time I really saw any face on videos of Tiger was when Gary Edwin did, that's where I decided to swing, which is kind of the model, but I worked towards, you know, in a really cool video on Tiger or like 06, showing his angles from face on and relating it to what Tiger worked from through his career. And we just go, yeah, it's absolutely so far hunting. Yeah. Yeah, I think it was, yeah, it was all opening up like I said. And I really appreciate it. I think I'm like a support producer.

1:19:06Some of the aim point stuff.