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President Trump just announced he is replacing DHS Secretary Kristi Noem with Oklahoma Senator Markwayne Mullin. Noem will move into a newly created position called the “Special Envoy for the Shield of the Americas” effective at the end of the month. Noem has been facing growing criticism in the aftermath of Minneapolis, but the final straw may have been her committee testimony earlier this week where she said Trump approved that 200 million dollar ad campaign.
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I mean, she's been demoted. I think maybe would be a better way to put a puts yes. She has been fired from the position she has been removed from the position of the department of Homeland Security the secretary of DHS. She's now being given a position that is, well, sounds made up, to be honest, but it is kind of in a way because it is a position that has not existed before now. So yeah, and Chrissy know, and we should let you know this news is coming to us just a matter of minutes before we hopped on here. But she still is keeping a commitment she had in Nashville, Tennessee, she had a live event and we can actually see a live feed of her taking questions as a law enforcement event. So she is continuing in the role, but it is going to be over by the end of this month. Christy Nome is the headline folks at Department of Homeland Security, Secretary
Christy Nome is out. The president is replacing her putting her somewhere else we do know this is from the president himself. He put out a pretty long post explaining he's removing her and also telling us he already has a replacement. Yes, he is going to replace Christy Nome with Senator Oklahoma Senator Mark Wayne Mullin. He is going to become the Department of Homeland Security, but he does have to be confirmed by the Senate. So there is that hurdle that will still have to take place before he is officially named DHS Secretary. Who knows about that? He's going to be going before his colleagues, his fellow colleagues. You can see if he can get it across across the finish line with the vote. I kept trying to think of what the votes and when this would happen and the hearings we have to have now and going through all of this. So that process is to come, but this is is there a member of the administration who had been under more fire than Secretary Nome that has to be
known. Certainly not. And in recent days, even the president had whispered and there were whispers and rumors and articles being written that Christy Nome possibly might be replaced because the president, the final straw for him was he did not appreciate her testimony in front of that committee where she was grilled about this expensive ad campaign that we all saw in airports across this country. And she told Senator Kennedy, I believe, that President Trump OK'd it. Well, apparently President Trump said, yeah, I did not OK that. And so for a lot of folks, they felt like he was pissed enough now, given all the events in Minnesota and certainly a lot of the headlines that have been going around for weeks. This was the final straw. And this is what the president said in a post on truth, social announcing to everyone that yes, she was being replaced, quote, I am pleased to announce the highly respected United States Senator from the great state of Oklahoma, Mark Wayne Mullin will become the United States Secretary of Homeland Security, the HS Effective March 31st, 2026, the current
secretary, Christy Nome, who has served as well as at numerous and spectacular results, especially on the border, will be moving to special envoy for the shield of the Americas, our new security initiative in the Western hemisphere. We are announcing on Saturday in Darral, Florida. I thank Christy for her service at Homeland. Now, he has another longer paragraph after that, but just talking about the new guy, it was interesting at the top robes, he didn't announce the first thing out of his mouth was the announcement of a new person versus saying I'm doing something with the other part. She seemed almost like an afterthought in the message 100% and you have to think that was by design. He just wants her to go away. He doesn't want to hear her name. He doesn't want to hear the complaints and the uproar about how she led the Department of Homeland Security. So I think yeah, he was like out with the old in with the new, let's start with the new. He was producing it like let's get the big announcement here that I really want you
to focus on. I want you to focus on how excited I am about the new Department of Homeland Security. Oh, yeah, that other person. Yes, she's gone. We've got her in another position that we're going to have her oversee that sounds like honestly a Marvel comic book. I don't know if this is the shield of the Americas. We don't know what that is. A security initiative in the Western hemisphere. A little vague. We'll get the details this weekend. I guess she will too about what her new job is. Does she have a say in this job? Does she have to just be reassigned? Can she say no? Thank you for that gig. I think she is most likely going to say thank you, sir. And I will do I will serve as you ask, but it is fascinating to watch her on this podium and to listen to some of the anchors wondering because no one is asking her. She any one in that room has a microphone can ask her question. She is literally taking Q and A, but these are not journalists. These are law enforcement officials, officers. So the speculation was maybe the folks in the room don't even know
that's how new this information is. And frankly, I was we were done for the day. And you said, babe, there's breaking news and look, unless you're paying close attention, this is something that could slip by. So she has not had to speak on it. Of course, every news outlet is closely monitoring this press conference to see if anyone asks her about the president didn't have to do what he did in the message either. Yes, she didn't get top billing. Yes, maybe she was an afterthought, but he robes did say pleasant things about her and he didn't have to anything to her for her service. He could have said something nasty. First of all, he could have not said anything. He made a choice to do that as well. And maybe this will I don't know him. Maybe just being a nice guy, but she has had a rough, go for the past several months, certainly starting in Minneapolis with what what happened on the streets, but robes, that's got to be it's got to be the start of her undoing the
Alex pretty death, not the Renee good, but Alex pretty when she came out and called him a domestic terrorist when we all saw video with our plain eyes told us something else. That was an awful situation, robes, and she had an opportunity here at these hearings to clear the air and it was not a good look for her. Yes, we actually talked about this, the only remedy. Look, I think I do believe no matter how you feel about Christina and her policy and even her delivery of her policy or the president's policy, I think we all know that sometimes something looks or sounds one way. And then once you actually see the video, you get more information, you realize it's another thing. And it would have been such a smart move on her part to acknowledge that because people, we're not dumb. And I think as leaders, when you treat the American people like we're stupid, like we don't see what we see here. You're telling us what we are looking at isn't real or isn't true
or is something altogether different. You are now going to completely lose all trust with the American people, Republicans and Democrats because when you're saying to us something we know not to be true with a smile on your face and then you refuse to apologize for it or say, you know what, you're right. I didn't characterize that correctly. I should have taken more time. You know how far that would have gone in reestablishing trust. You can make a mistake and then say, look, I am going to do better and I apologize. She doubled down and that certainly there weren't even Republicans necessarily defending her. No, she could have got it. You say it would have gone a long way, but it went a long way the other direction in making me think that we're not dealing with serious people. We're looking at the video. It's okay. It's okay. You're an adult. It's okay. You know, it says adults sometimes we have to say I'm sorry. Sometimes they say, my bad. And if you don't want to apologize, you could at least say, I have new information now. And that wasn't. It's
very simple stuff. The guy is dead. We saw him shot. You called him a terrorist. Okay. You didn't have all the information. That's not hard to do. If we're an adult under oath sitting in that stage, who's in that important of a high profile role for the American people to not even just be what is the point? What is the pride part in politics that you can't say you made a mistake? I don't know. I don't know the answer to that. That was stunning in that hearing room. It's okay, lady. It's okay. Yeah. Alex pretty had a cell phone in his hand. It's okay. I'm a misspoke. I didn't have it all. And now did I see it? That's not how you know what? They didn't even ask for an apology. Can you just say that labeling him as a terrorist was wrong? Do you think he's a terrorist? As you sit here today, she wouldn't even answer that. I know. These hearings are so that you start watching these hearings and you say, I don't even want to continue. I want to turn this off because when you can't see people speaking the truth, telling the truth, being honest, being real,
when you just see people refusing to acknowledge reality, it's numbing at a certain point. So look, she is out of a job, but she's moving into another one. It'll be really interesting to see if this is actually a position where she will be visible in any way. Highly doubt it. Highly doubt it. Get a good look at this press conference. We will not see her for the rest of the month, probably. She has until 31st, they say, robs, I'd be very surprised if we see her. And yes, we talked about what happened in Minneapolis. I high profile that was as far as a disaster for her, but we saw other things. Robes, you just mentioned those $200 million in ads. Well, there's also some luxury jets that might have been her undoing. This is Sophia Bush from work in progress with Sophia Bush. Bring the good with avocados from Mexico. Upgrade your meals, your get togethers, even your everyday life.
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to 11 a.m. Pricing participation may vary. Cannot be combined with any other offer. I'm not continuing here with the breaking news. Christie Nome, DHS secretary wrote some people might have said they saw this coming, but the Department of Homeland Security. She has been fired by the president demoted certainly to a new position. We don't know exactly what that is yet. The special envoy for the shield of the Americans, a new security initiative in the Western Hemisphere. Not kidding. That is what that's what it says, man. She's taken over at Hemisphere. So maybe this is a new upgrade. I was just wondering was he trying to make it sound bigger? Sounds big. Clearly this is a demotion. So she was just dealing with the homeland. Now she's got a hemisphere. So maybe he is making it sound better. I feel like that is exactly what he was trying to do to try and make her feel better about getting a lower position. Some people you see was going on on the streets of Minneapolis and the job she's done and and what's been happening with border agents
and okay, take issue with her job performance and stuff we can see but rolls behind the scenes. What might have done her in as well. There have been so many reports that she likes to roll in luxury. Christie Nome has been known to not be afraid to spend money to upgrade and a couple of jets that were purchased to the tune of 150 plus million. I think it's $170 million for the Department of Homeland Security. One of them to upgrade her own plane that she traveled around on. It just set off alarm bells. There were tons of reports about it. It's just not. Again, this is the department. This is the administration. What was I came to remember the name of the thing? Elon Musk. What was his department saving all this? Yeah, the part of those department. They saving all this money. And now it seems that was another issue that seemed broke to go along with what we saw in the hearing. I didn't even realize the ads cost that much. I didn't either. And apparently there was
limited. It was a limited competitive bid. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. So there was all of that. And then they made a point to say she was prominently featured throughout the entire ad. It was basically a Christie Nome ad. Yeah. Where Christie Nome looked powerful and beautiful. Yes. Earning her nickname. Ice Barbie. I'm the ice Barbie. But yeah. So there was a lot of finger pointing when it came to all of those choices she made. In addition to, yes, what happened Minneapolis? It wasn't just Minneapolis. There were a number of issues. But the reports are in several places that the thing that did her inroads, in fact, was those ads and her, not just the ads, but how she performed at the hearing when she's questioned about it by a Republican up there, Louisiana Senator Kennedy, was questioning her. And look, if it was a Democrat, he would have been yelling at her. But he was asking
her very pointed question robes about why this has happened, why this much money, and who gave you the okay? The problem is who she said okay to. Yeah. She said President Trump did. And I believe Senator Kennedy said Mr. Trump called him and said just so you know, that's not what happened. So he verbally contradicted Christie Nome or you could say Christie Nome said something that either wasn't true or President Trump didn't appreciate or both. It was a bad. It was one of the worst moments of the hearing to hear him question her about why do we need to see your face and spend $200 million to promote you to promote you? She said, well, the president said it was okay. And that might have been her undilling robe. This is a huge story because she has been a huge name in the middle of a huge topic in this country. And now she's out. And by the way, robes, the Department of Homeland Security seems pretty damn important right now. It certainly does. And it's not funded.
It's not fun. And it's not led. No, it's not. But we did get as the second part of President Trump's truth social post. He went on to talk about the person who he wants to take Christie Nome's place. And I say that because he does have to be confirmed by the Senate. But here is what he said about Mark Wayne. He said serving 10 years in the United States House of Representative and three in the Senate, Mark Wayne has done a tremendous job representing the wonderful people of Oklahoma, where I won all 77 out of 77 counties in 2016, 2020 and 2024, a MAGA warrior and former undefeated professional MMA fighter. Mark Wayne truly gets along well with people and knows the wisdom and courage required to advance our America first agenda. As the only Native American in the Senate, Mark Wayne is a fantastic advocate for our incredible tribal communities. Mark Wayne will work tirelessly to keep our border secure, stop migrant crime, murderers and other criminals from illegally entering our country.
End the scourge of illegal drugs and make America safe again. Mark Wayne will make a spectacular secretary of Homeland Security. Thank you for your attention to this matter. We'll see if he gets approved. He can get approval through the Senate, but a shake up for sure, one that many may be saw coming, one that many may be we're hoping for for quite some time, but Christie Nome is out at the Department of Homeland Security. Again, folks, didn't expect to do this one. Just wanted to hop on and give you that update. Stay with us. Top right corner of the Apple Podcast app where it says follow that little button on our show page. Click that. You can make sure you get all of our updates coming to you and load happiness. We don't even know when the next one's coming. We'll talk to you soon. I'm TJ Holmes. We have my dear Daniel. See you. This is Chelsea, handler from Dear Chelsea. After the big game like most people, I kept thinking about the commercials and there was one that stayed with me.
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