Brad Stine Has Issues! - Are Christians Foolish with Money?

0:00Well, I can't believe you showed up, but here you are. It is me, God's comic broadsign. This is Brett Sineh. He has issues with comedy, Christianity, and conservatism collied. In a cacophony of clarity tonight, we have Robert Netsley from Christian Wealth Management. We're going to be talking to him. For those of you who like to invest money, those who like to have their money go to good causes, we're good things are being talked about and good things are being uplifted like godly things. That's where your money should go and you are responsible for your money. God gives it to you, but he wants to make sure you are doing something prudent with it. So that's what we're going to talk about. It sounds got boring. Oh, it's about money. No, it's learning how to invest in the kingdom. That's what it means to be a disciple. And if you're not a disciple, why are you here for crying out loud? That's why we only want folks that are ready to go into the deep little level here. I got some things to tell you guys. But before I do that, I have somebody that wants to tell you about who they are and what you can buy so that this podcast

1:03can remain. Listen up. And this next guest, folks, is somebody that's kind of, I mean, at first glance, you think, well, is this going to be kind of, I don't know, a little bit stale because it's about finances, right? And it's not like a Dave Ramsey who helps people out of debt. It's a wonderful thing. It's an important thing. I mean, it's one of the biggest things we all struggle with is our finances. But if you're Christ follower, you know, you don't like to have your money spent on things that you think goes against your faith, would steal your liberties, your freedom, your religious liberties and opportunities like that. They, they, and there's a group of people right now in from Christian wealth management. That invests like BlackRock does in Christian ideas, in faith based ideas. They even give you a breakdown. So you can see what companies give what to wear. So you can see, where do I want my money to go? They want that wealth to grow. They want you to build equity. They want you to build a profit. But they do it with like-minded believers. And Robert Netsley is the guy that I talked to. He's the CEO of the president of Christian

2:05wealth management. And it was really a fascinating conversation because to know that there are people out there just like we had Gretchen on that created a gifts and go. She saw, what do you call it? What's the, what's the typical goat fundee fundraiser? I don't know what that fund place is. I know I always forget everything I need to know, Kickstarter, whatever it is. Anyway, she said, let's do a Christian version. And they're doing great. Doing so great. They got sued for three million, three hundred million dollars for the Canadian government because they helped raise funds for the Canadian truckers that refused to go when they were given these coronavirus mandate things. So it's wonderful to see people, believers, see a need and try to bring a Christian perspective to it. And that's what Robert Netsley is done. Christian wealth management, it's interesting. You should know about him. You should get involved with him. We as believers can just pool our wealth and truly do some damage for the kingdom while they're getting good. That's what we're supposed to do. That's why we're here. And so I really thought you guys would enjoy this. And if you give it a

3:08listen, I promise it's probably going to be an area where you're going to want to think, hmm, I think I'll throw some bucks that away. Those are my people. So enjoy this time, learn from it, grow from it. I think you will enjoy the president and CEO, this interesting interview of where to best get the best use of the money God has given you. Well, I think it just might be Christian wealth management. So do me a favor and enjoy this conversation with Robert Netsley. How do you do, sir? Welcome to the club. Hey, pleasure to be here, Brad. Yeah, great to be on show and doing something a little different for me. I don't get to be hanging out with comics too much. So this is, well, I would think with the way interest rates were the last few years, I think there was plenty to laugh at or weep. But nevertheless, well, listen, brother, I'm glad you're here because when I saw what you were doing, I knew that it was crucial. And you know, we've talked about an economy for conservatives. And I don't know if you would, I know you're

4:10Christian. So usually that is indicative of a conservative philosophy. But you know, I'm not going to put words in your mouth. But let's start kind of with that just so I kind of get an angle and the people listening or watching get a feel for what you're all about. So you you are an investment firm. Would that be the best way to summarize it? And what is your mission in the culture at hand as we sit here in 2026 as we're just launched into this year? Yeah. So aspire investing and sort of related family companies, inspired visors, inspired inside of a few different businesses all are related to what we call biblically responsible investing is a faith-based approach to investing in the markets. And essentially, it's, you know, we're looking at, you know, the kind of companies we invest in, what are they actually doing to turn a profit? So my background, I used to get Wells Fargo private client service doing the thing in Carmel, California, you know, nice office and whatever situation. And then I stumbled across this really inconvenient truth

5:13that here I was president of our local pro-life pricing center on a volunteer basis. And I also own three stocks of companies that are manufacturing abortion drugs in my personal portfolio. So I realized I'm actually making money. Every time a young lady goes to plan a parent it has an abortion. I'm making money in that transaction. And I'm recommending all my clients to do the same thing. And I go down the list of, you know, pornography sales and even trafficking and, you know, Woke Dei, LGBT activism, it's all this stuff is going on. And I just didn't know what to do with that, right? So our company solves that problem, but seeks to, you know, put together investment portfolios that perform just as well if not better than, you know, your traditional secular portfolios, but with businesses that are not going to compromise your biblical, you know, conservative orthodox sort of beliefs. And that's, that's it. I'm not sure. God's really blessed it. And he's doing great things in and through that. Exciting time to be doing what we're doing. Well, it is indeed. And I'm wondering if the Trump administration has been helpful to you. I've even noticed any, I don't know, momentum or at least less aggression against you with this

6:19new administration. Or has it not made any difference? I'm just curious about if that has a play in all of this. Yeah. Yeah. We've been at this for about 15 years now. So, you know, before Trump, during Trump, you know, Trump on Trump too, all that time frame. And I think the, the things that are going on underneath, you know, the undercurrents of society, right? The in the politics and society and all that sort of thing that resulted in Trump 2016 and current version. You know, all of those same things are at work in the investment realm. You see a lot of these DEI pushbacks. You saw the explosion with Bud Light and the trans influencer issue, the target issues, the Disney stuff, you know, all these things that really radical, socially activist policies and actions on behalf of, you know, corporations that, you know, 20 years ago would have been, you know, I don't know, like weird, but maybe nobody does anything about it. But now it's gotten to a point

7:22where people are just sort of fed up, I think, you know, this, this kind of sleeping giant of the majority of the populace here who, you know, maybe they're not, you know, conservative Christians like me, but they're certainly not extreme radical liberals like those pushing those things. They just sort of want their beer companies to make beer or want their retail companies to like sell shoes and not push, you know, trans ideology on their children or whatever else. That, that sort of radicalism through the corporate sphere and through politics and through, you know, schools and all these other things we see erupting. And, and finally kind of a common sense conservatism, if you want to call that, you know, moral majority. I mean, the lot of things that people could call that, people with faith certainly rising up and saying, hey, enough's enough. And, and so certainly I think in our company, I mean, the fact that me starting the business, I think is a result of this sort of discovery on, on my personal behalf. And then

8:23being able to find other investors to be clients and, and advisors who wanted to transition their practices to build this sort of business. So here we are, you know, managing over 4.25 billion dollars assets. And we're in the top fastest, you know, top three fastest growing investment firms in the nation, you know, several times ranked number three best investment firm last year by USA today. And again, God's been really, really gracious. But because there's this huge awakening, there's this huge pushback against, against radical leftists, you know, attempts at indoctrination all through society. It makes our job a little easier, I guess, when we're saying, hey, we should just invest in companies that are trying to ruin the world and then maybe align with better things and people are better off using their products instead of, you know, having the right lives ruined by their products, things like that, you know, and so we think it's pretty common sense. It is a mission of faith for me and our team. We see ourselves as stewards of God's assets, but we've got a lot of people who are here with us and in our tribe that just kind of fed up,

9:26right, with the extreme leftism and want kind of a return to sanity. And so that's what we're doing. We're advocating for that through the investment world and God's giving us some success, not just the business, but also seeing some changes in corporations as a result. Yeah, well, and when I brought up Trump, it wasn't in any way, I don't know, sci-fi for him. I was just curious if you saw just a sense in the culture that you were given more freedom or at least it was easier to navigate without feeling like there were regulations, because the truth of the matter is what we have discovered in our culture in the last number of years, and it was all exposed during Corona, is that there's a group of people that rule this world and it ain't us and it's financially driven and these are technocrats and these are oligarchs and these oligarchs and this is old money and this is an old game and it's been around a long time and we never saw it because we just thought life was normal. Well, it's never been normal. We just didn't know and now we do. And so when we started seeing and I've been more aware of this,

10:33I'm not an economic guy, I don't understand the world like you do and numbers and whatnot, but I am a guy that cares about words, how we communicate, how we see what is true and culture, because I'm a Christfather, but as a comedian, you know, that's our whole thing is finding funny and crazy and things and trying to sort of shed light on it, to mock it, ridicule it, and really to deal with first amendment issues, you know, the freedom to speak dissent without any kind of punishment. I mean, that's what freedom really is. Well, the truth of the matter is, that's what your buying power is as well. It's a vote. Every time you buy something, you vote it for it. You kind of said, I'm in and I've always said for years, you know, Christians I think sometimes have failed in engaging culture proactively. It's all sort of hand-dringing and maybe going to church and wondering if things will get better, it's like, well,

11:33you can get around it with a big old poster and in protest what you hate, or you can invest in something you love. You can actually make something profitable. You can show there's value to something and people will pay attention because ultimately what used to be the case, and this is what I really want to talk to you about, and it's so confusing to me, and I think as Christ followers you and I you know, we also understand there's a spiritual battle here at stake that your average guy isn't going to see, but obviously there's some there's a, someone is trying to claim the control of the culture. I got some things to tell you guys, but before I do that, I have somebody that wants to tell you about who they are and what you can buy so that this podcast can remain. Listen up, and money, and of course does that. And we see that in China. We see that in a country that controls people's behavior, that monitors people's behavior, that tries to be aware of what people

12:37are doing, thus they can then decide if they are on the right or wrong track, or if they are in fact voting properly or behaving properly. And if not, while we can do something about that, especially if we can make you unable to buy things, then you are my slave. We saw it with the truckers that were protesting during Corona in Canada, literally having their funds removed by the government. I'll give Sen Go's a friend of mine. I know the folks that started that. They were sued $100 million, I believe, by the Canadian government, because they were just simply trying to provide funds for these guys to have their free speech. So there's a lot of stake if you're not covering how you can spend and where you can spend and who controls that ability. So I want to start with, for those who maybe are listening or watching me, that maybe have never understood the ramifications of what happens if a company is captured ideologically. How that can cost you your freedom, how can cost your ability to integrate into society. And not like you

13:43said, have the things that most dear to you, be commandeered by somebody else and literally cast aside or made impossible. And I saw that when I read, it was Vivek Ramaswami's book, Walk Inc. And that was the first time I'd ever heard of the distinction between stakeholders and stockholders. A stockholders is what was typical of your, the function of a business like yours. We are trying to get the best return on our investment. That's our job is you paid money. We're going to try to find the proper way to mix that up and spread the wealth. And if somebody tanks over here, we got five guys paying for it over here. And we're going to be okay and we'll write the ship. And because the stock market is volatile, but suddenly stakeholder came, apparently, the single most important way that they were going to vote. And that is, are we putting our time and our money and our company's brand towards a particular issue, towards a particular philosophy, towards a particular point of view, a group, an oppressed group,

14:49a marginalized group. And suddenly it became a political arm that had nothing to do with just giving me my money back and give me a return. That's why I got into this. So can you help my people and describe it certainly better than me. This is your value. The difference between this idea of stockholder investor with a hopeful return and this idea of stakeholder, which is more of an ideological driven investment, which doesn't apparently also seem to care if they lose money as long as they feel good about themselves. So explain how that has panned out all these years. Yeah. Yeah. I think you're doing a great job. I think you might have a picture in investments there, Brad, but the shareholders, stockholders and stakeholders, it's sort of like they sound similar and sometimes you hear talking heads and it's easy to just sort of not realize they're talking about two very different things. And the importance of words, I think you mentioned that, right? Words are important vocabulary. The sort of things that we let people put inside of our

15:55mouths is we need to be really close to that. And social needs and that's like his gig, right? Do not live by lies. Yeah. You don't have to go put your neck on in the line and go toe to toe with the red army or whatnot, but just don't live by the lies. Don't say the lies that they want you to repeat. And this is one of those examples where there's this little word, share of stakeholder or stockholder sounds very similar, but they very they mean that very different things. So a stockholder is somebody who has a financial interest in a business. So you are an owner of that company. So when you out there have a 401k, your company and you put some money into it and it goes into a mutual fund, there are stocks inside that mutual fund and you own a little bit of stock from, you know, hundreds of companies, probably. And so you are a stockholder in those businesses. Businesses go up and value, go down and value. Your portfolio goes up and down and value, right? That's how we understand that financial aspect. There's there's a responsibility that comes with that on behalf of the company of which you own stock. So you you are an owner. You might not feel

16:58like that, but you are you own a little bit or a lot, but you are you're an owner of that business and the people running that business, the board of directors, the CEO on down have a actually a legal responsibility of fiduciary duty to work in your best interest as the owner of that business as a stockholder in that business. So when they decide what to do with the the capital in their company, like how to deploy that, do we want to go sponsor gay pride parade or hire Dylan Mulvaney for a transactive this thing, or do we want to send a dividend out to our stockholders or, you know, do some other thing with it. It has to be in the best interest of the people who own the company, the stockholders, that's you. That's me as a people who own those stocks. That's that shouldn't be controversial. Then you have stakeholder capitalism, so-called, which is a really just kind of code for Marxist color of capitalism if you want to do that, right? So stakeholders. Well, I mean, there's the people that own, you know, the company, but then there's always other people, typically the oppressed people or whatever categories you want to say that that are that have a

18:04stake in what we do. And the kind of deceitful part of this is it plays on our, you know, rightly found the desire to love our neighbors or self, I think, where, okay, well, there's a business, and then it affects this community where, you know, there are products or solar, the people, the sort of people that work there, the, you know, kind of this fear, imagine a business, and all the people that affects the vendors, you know, the people that service that company, you know, this company like maybe buys materials from another business to make their widget. That might be a stakeholder, they would say. And so the stakeholder capitalism is a, isn't a effectively trying to put those other kind of broader community of people on par with those who actually own the business and say, well, I know we have responsibility to you as a stock holder who actually owns the company, but we also owe it to the LGBT Chamber of Commerce

19:05because they're a stakeholder in our business and we need to derive a certain number of dollars of our, you know, merchandise or whatever else we're buying from LGBT communities or, you know, other disadvantaged sort of communities or whatever else, right? And you know, and honestly, it doesn't matter if you, I want you to believe about LGBT issues or black issues or women's issues or these issues or that issues. Fundamentally, this is a corporate governance issue of who has the response, who do the CEO and board of directors have responsibility to as a company? And, and that's, if you, if you go to the point where the broader community of these, again, typically it's a lot of the time it's LGBT communities and sort of like the BLM crowd that gets this sort of attention, the stakeholder capitalist attention, where we got to give all this money or have quotas to, you know, hire these people instead of the better qualified people from another community or buy things from them for our business or, you know, whatever the case may be, but it's

20:09at the disadvantage of the stockholders, the people who own the business who are counting on this company to fund their retirement, fund their children's education to, you know, do whatever else. And that, that is a fundamental difference. So we have a lawsuit against target right now. So we've had this lawsuit, it's active, it's going for, you know, over a year. The resulted from there, if you recall back another couple of years back in June of a couple of years ago, they had the radical, like the very radical in your face, like, tuck-friendly bathing suit, debacle, you know, with their gay pride assortment that was all over the news. Big huge backlash. Well, the CEO made some public statements that we believe are misleading. It's our belief that the business of target made decisions that, you know, were not in the best interest of their stockholders, that they, withheld material information from stockholders about the risks that they were, that they knew, the risk that they, we believe they knew, they were

21:13putting their business and their brand and the share of their stock by going into this kind of very extreme gay pride display in all their stores. And, and they, withheld that material information from stockholders. And we believe they made material statements, misleading statements after that. Those are, that's illegal. If that is, of course, finds that true. Like, that is illegal. A CEO and a publicly traded company has to give material information about the risk and speak honestly to their shareholders and they'll operate in the best interest of their shareholders. So, so that's a really kind of real life example of how these two things are in conflict, where this idea of stockholders who actually own the business and the stakeholders, which is, you know, however you want to define the community that might be affected or related somehow to a business. And then who gets the priority? And how does that money get spent and what does that mean for the business? And that's, you know, again, how this has been really corporate America has been co-opted through that avenue in large part. And so that's how you get these companies kind of

22:14hijacked. And there wasn't there also some kind of gauge or I'm not sure what the term is. But what weren't they given them certain credit points for how well they would go? They would go and that's given them a higher index by which we should invest in these guys because they're really LGBT friendly in their way for the indigenous people over here. And they care a lot about the snails that were here that have been wiped out. And God knows we got to, I mean, what kind of what other company would you want to invest with that wouldn't do that. So, you know, they would, but it was a very frightening dystopian sort of control by saying we're going to give you, you know, sort of a reward or a rating maybe that was what it was by how much we've decided whoever we is, whoever if they're always self appointed elite that decide that we are the arbiters of what is allowable. And so companies were in fear that if we got a bad rating,

23:23we were going to maybe lose investments or at least get picketed or I don't know. But am I accurate about that? That they would put out some kind of graphic to show who was in the proper tier of deserving of investment. And how did they go about harming these companies that weren't to tone the line? Yeah, the there's a few different groups that put out ratings and, you know, different issues and one of the larger ones is human rights campaign, HRC. I think they're probably the largest pro LGBT activist group in the country. Incredibly active, they they propose legislation, they work with Congress, they have a huge corporate lobbyist arm. And they put out this score. This was supposedly, you know, they call it the corporate equality index again, slippery words, corporate equality index. And it ranks essentially how friendly you are towards their agenda. There's a survey that they send out to corporations, you know, very extensive about, you know,

24:25the sorts of people you hire and the sorts of, you know, do you offer, you know, trans, transition surgery, treatments for minors in your health plan, you know, things like that. And the more boxes you check that line up with their very extreme kind of agenda, the higher the points you get, right? Zero to 100. And they had a lot of fanfare for those hit 100 and and all of that. And so for many years, that was sort of uncontested. And you've got this whole cadre of, you know, Bain and company sort of McKinsey and company sort of corporate consultants and things that that will go into these big businesses and say, hey, you want to be on the right side of history. And don't you know that in all of the surveys, everybody wants to see an inclusive diverse, you know, they want to see you standing for equity and social justice. And, you know, you really need to make sure that you score as high as possible

25:26on the corporate quality index. It's going to be good for business. And they had all, you know, all their supporting data that they have, you know, cooked up from somewhere. Well, for a long time, we've been saying, that's all just a bunch of hogwash, you know, I'm not sure where they're getting their data, but all the people I know don't really want that happening. And in these businesses. And so we've been talking to these companies. As investors, we get to call their investor relations department and they have people, people whose jobs there, it is to talk to people like us. And we talk to the executives there and all of these folks. And get to speak biblical truth, the corporate power. And it's sort of like falls on deaf ears for a long time. But now those chickens are starting to come home to roost. In these past several years, we're saying, look, we've been telling you this ain't a popular thing. Don't believe the charts, you know, the shiny charts and diagrams you're seeing from from wherever. But, you know, the people that are shopping your stores and buying your beer, like they are not a fan of this. And we're not a fan as investors. And I know a whole lot

26:28of more people like us. Now that's becoming real. And, you know, again, bud light blows up, target blows up, all those things. And so you start seeing, you know, a friend, a friend of ours, Robbie Starbuck, you know, he's been in the news a lot like getting some like tractor supply and John Deere and others to kind of flip on ESG and DEI. You know, we've done a lot of similar work as from a shareholders perspective in, you know, similar realms with, you know, off-doe speech and debanking of Christian organizations and also DEI ESG. A lot of these same issues. And now you're finding businesses being more willing to hear you out because sort of the emperor has no clothes. They realize they've been fed of, you know, a line of hogwash. And, and then two, we're hearing more often now, you know, I've had numerous conversations like this where there's an executive or a legal officer or somebody at a company and we're having a call about one of these issues. And they sort of stop and dissent in our mid conversation and say, hey, I just got

27:32to level with you. I don't really want the company doing these things either. You know, I'm not an extremist. They may or may not be a Christian or whatever, but they don't want to be involved in all these things. But, you know, but there's so much pressure from the left. You got to understand, like, I can't just stand up in the border and say, hey, I'm a Christian. I think we shouldn't do this radical LGBT thing. I'd be fired. Now to CFO of a major Fortune 500 company, tell me that. And, but you got to understand all this pressure. But now what they can say, they say now because I've had a conversation with you guys, now I can stay in that meeting and say, hey, thank you, human rights campaign or whoever you are for your information. I actually just spoke with this other group of shareholders. They have a different point of view on this issue. I think we should just stay out of it and like just make shoes, right? Or just make in this particular company, it was a satellite telecommunications company. We should just make really good satcom devices and like stay out of the social debates and just do what we do and do it really well. And so,

28:32like you see that more and more, we're kind of able to give the air cover to those who really didn't want to be, you know, social justice warriors for the left in the first place and giving them away out. And because of people who are investing with our company and our coalition of other folks who are again, just not just sitting on the sidelines and being quiet or putting our money with the secular woke investment firms like BlackRock or Vanguard or whoever else may be, it matters who you keep your money to because, you know, if you put your money into a BlackRock ice shares fund or Vanguard fund or American funds or fidelity, a lot of people don't realize those businesses like fidelity gets to make the call for you. And they're not asking you what your values are. They're going to pitch their own book. So they're going to they get to take those billions of dollars, trillions of dollars and they get to make those phone calls to Microsoft and Target and whoever else and advocate for the values that they want to advocate for with your money. This should be setting alarm bells off, right? Like where we put our money matters. And so

29:36a company like us, there's a lot, you know, a growing number of conservative aligned faith-based firms that, you know, are just operating and, you know, conservative faith-based values. We need to we need to get that money aligned with our deeply held values because yeah, those scores are out there. And I just I think just today saw a little news blip from the HRC about the corporate quality index. I quote fact check me on this please. I think the number was 65 percent reduction in the number of companies that actually filled out their survey. That's enormous. We've been we've been working on that for several years, imploring companies. Just don't participate. Just don't send the survey in. You know, you don't need to fill up the the numbers bad. Just don't even reply. Just don't send it. 65 percent reduction. There are thousands of businesses that have been filling out this survey. Like all the forks from 1000, essentially, that's a huge win. So again, facts check me on that. I think I just saw the blurb earlier today. But that's that's that's a big deal. Well, and you know, if you don't have spiritual discernment

30:42as well as economic savvy, then you're going to just kind of go with the flow. Like if somebody says just do this and that and you're like, okay, you know, they don't want to they don't want the the headache of bad press or, you know, being branded racist or I mean, it's the easy way for the left to control is they just vilify you with ad hominin attacks. And if you're stupid enough to fall for that, then you kind of deserve what you get because if you're not going to send it for truth in in your own point of view and freedom, then you kind of don't deserve it because it's not going to last if people are caving because somebody has decided that you've got to think like us. It doesn't make sense to me that a company whose entire purpose is a return on investment. Hopefully a large return on investment and a profit, even most importantly, wouldn't be neutral. Just don't take a side. We're not in politics business. We make shoes, like you said. And you know,

31:44there's an old famous story about Michael Jordan, you know, and who had the big Nike thing and deal and they made a whole movie just briefly about it. But he wasn't a big activist. He wasn't doing all the black thing this and black thing that. And they just ask, why don't you get more of all? He said, look, Republicans buy shoes too. He just wanted to sell his shoes. So I got a better idea. What if I don't, don't, what if I'm just vanilla? I'm not checking anybody's side. I just make these. If you like him, buy him. If you don't like him, tell him, buy him. And then you're out of hot water. Well, so that's my point is that the people that stood the black rock, I don't know black rock. We're infiltrated by these folks and then became them. Or if they almost were part of the problem, it almost feels like they were gleefully involved that they wanted this to be a way to control a narrative and a point of view. And they were the worst. Or at least one, I mean,

32:44I don't know. They were the biggest guys in town. So I suppose if they're doing it, then you're in trouble because they got trillions, I think, that they're managing. So why not remain neutral? That is about the wisest thing a person could do. Any more than the NFL letting guys kneel for the flag. See, look, when you take your uniform off and walk out into the public as an American citizen, you do it every one, protest however you want. You're free, man. But when you come in here and put on the uniform and represent this, this, this team or this stadium or this city, you represent everybody here. They just want to come and watch a game. That's all they want to do. They want one moment where everybody can have something in common. We're voting for this team. So let's not make this anything else. And then a fill fell for I've never watched an NFL game since then because I believe they owe the American apology. I believe that in their woke, I mean, they got this guy you doing this halftime next as we record this next week coming up who, you know, spoke out against

33:49ICE agents just at the Grammys and now he's going to be their halftime guy. So they're all they're all that they gave millions to billions to BLM or whatever it was. So I'm not a fan. But here's the thing. Here's the problem. And you tell me your take on what you're seeing and, you know, you've been doing this a long time. And I like how you said you've been amongst the boardroom. You've been talking to these guys for a longer long before it was the thing that that the pencil moves swing in the other way long before that when nobody really, they were fearful for their lives that they were going to stay in the left lane. But I'm grateful that you feel like, you know, there are those who are finally saying, this does not pan out. And we just don't want to be having a gun under our, at our head, not being able to make wise decision and economically prudent decisions, which is what our business was supposed to be all along. And we can't do that properly if we are coerced. But do you think this is where I just, I do want to throw in the

34:55spiritual realm because I think it's, I think it, it's the only thing that makes sense. It wouldn't make sense to, to get a trans guy to do bud light. Because clearly, you know who your market is. They're, they're, they're, they're, you know, good old boy blue, blue collar red, necky regular guys. It's not against these are some trans guys. It's like, you don't represent this. It's beer. It doesn't have a gender. It's just a, it's a, it's a refreshment that we all want to participate in. So what do you think would cause someone to not take the, the most obvious route? And that is just remain neutral. Don't take any side about anything, but be making the best product you can. Yeah. It's, it's a good question. And there's, there's different answers. I think

35:56there's different reasons for different companies, depending on who we're talking about. Sometimes, as hard as it is to believe, the folks making those decisions actually believe that the world they live in wants them to do these crazy things, that they're echo chamber, that they're in, that they, they honestly believe that nobody's thinking like you and me are right now. And if there are, you can't at all still walking around the belief of things like you and me, like we're just, you know, prehistoric relics and there's, there's not very many of us. They really don't understand that they're people buying bud light are just sort of your blue collar guy that, you know, doesn't go marching in the pride parade, you know, doesn't want their kids reading trans books and kindergarten in the public school, right? Like that's, they honestly don't have that view of reality. And I, I've talked to so many journalists. This is super common, you know, 25-year-old Manhattanite, somebody with a New York Times. They honestly have a different

36:57view of the world. They just, the people they know, the, the echo chamber they're in is just different. So there's that. And we've got to do what we can to shadow that. And again, just speaking this biblical truth to corporate, corporate power and having these, you know, and I've had some of these conversations with, with honest, I think well-meaning people who after having a conversation, they say, you know, I've been doing this job for 20 years, you know, running investor relations or the finance or whatever it is in this company. I've never heard anything from a conservative investor or a faith-based investor before. But not once. They hear a lot from the other people. Zero times from our side. And they, they thank me. They say, you know, thank you very much for sharing your perspective. Because honestly, this is the first time I've heard from somebody. We're going to take that into consideration. And they do. And they do. Even though their personal views might be something else, but we just kind of shattered this disillusioned, you know, them from this kind of fake world. So we've got to, we've got to be speaking, you know, into the boardrooms and things. The pickets on the street are easy to dismiss.

38:02You know, that kind of thing. There's a place for that. But the power and the decisions are in the executive ranks. And really, honestly, they're not watching who's picketing on the front step. And they just think they're much in lunatics. And they sort of dismissed that. But when you actually you're talking to, you know, an investor group or whatever and you're having a rational conversation. A lot of them are reasonable people. So that's that one category. There's another category that's the more insidious kind that they know that they that there's people over here, their shareholders and customers that disagree with them on these things. And maybe mostly disagree with them on these things, but they have a personal vendetta. I think I personally, I believe targets in this camp that the CEO that was, that was, you know, responsible for those decisions and some of the management that were making those decisions a couple of years back about the gay pride assortments and whatnot seems to me based on the statements that have come to public that they had personal agendas that they knew were going to put the company at risk. And they didn't give a who about it.

39:07And they were going to push it forward anyway because they believed that they could act with impunity. They believed they could do it. And then nothing bad would happen. And because why would they believe such a thing? Because for decades, they were doing things like that and nothing bad would happen. People would just sort of roll the ride. Oh, well, you know, what are you going to do? You know, corporate America, right? You know, you know, am I right? And that just ended. You know, I coven, you mentioned COVID, I think was a huge, you know, wake up call for a lot of Americans that we can't just like go with the flow. There, there are some nefarious actors in the world that kind of want to enslave us in different ways to larger or smaller degrees as the case may be. And some of those people run big companies. And we need to speak up. We need to take action. We need to let our voice be heard. We need to go out and help, you know, form the society that we want to form and preserve the things and conserve the things we want to be conserved. Otherwise,

40:08they're going to be burned to the ground by people who, you know, are diametrical to the sort of world that we want to see. A full of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, they want, you know, something else. And so there are those that I think really just have personal agendas. And they have been, again, historically sort of emboldened because they could do these things. Sheryl, there's wouldn't say anything. Customers kept buying their stuff. People just sort of whatever. The media, plots, you know, they're the country club friends in, you know, Seattle, applaud them and pat them on the back for all the things that they're doing. And so that's a big, that's changed. So now you're seeing otherwise activists, CEOs, et cetera, being bridled by their board, being fired by their board, perhaps, or just realizing that their heads on the chopping block of they stick it out there like there are consequences. And so that's what you're seeing. I mean, a monumental tide change in corporate America. It is not five years ago today. It is night and day,

41:13the sort of atmosphere in in boardrooms. And, you know, when thinking about social issues and all these things, it's a huge progress. Yeah. Have been made. And there's more to be made. But it's it's remarkable to see. Well, again, brother, I'm so grateful that you're doing this and giving us an option to spend our money. Because before that, we didn't know what really what to do. You know, or we didn't know how to navigate this thing because it didn't seem like it was on our side. God is, but he sometimes has to bring people like yourself into the game that says, hey, I'm going to do some about the set of, you know, winging about it. But that's what Christianity is supposed to be. You're actually trying to redeem the culture. And you do that not by complaining, but by proactively trying to bring Eden back through a beautiful garden that could have existed. Had we not screwed it up, folks, this is Robert Netsley. And he is, and I can't see anymore. And I'm going to have to invest in glasses. But oh, I'm sorry, inspire investing group. So this is

42:14where you need to go. This where you need to put your money. Christians need to be together and put all our money just like the first century church did. That's how they took care of each other. And this is a way that we can keep the kingdom going and keep the gospel going and keep morality going. There's nothing that is more indicative as a barometer as to who you are as a Christian as a human than what you do with your money. That is the key. And that is, you know, what are your treasures, your heart is. So invest and get this man's book. It will teach you how to be a better steward, which we need to be at all times. Me, I'm just a comic. I probably after we complete this conversation, try to see if he will sum some money in me so I can keep my podcast going. So that's how pathetic I am. But meanwhile, I'm grateful to meet you, brother, and keep up great success. More power to remember folks. If you ever say you're being politically incorrect, I always say, thank you for the compliment. It means you speak the truth at all times. If they say you're not woke, then again, you're doing exactly what you're supposed

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