BOBBYCAST #670 - Tim Tebow on Fighting Human Trafficking, Getting Humbled at Florida & Becoming a Father

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2:03experiment and fights back. I guess you didn't move in on a bunch of dumb hillbillies now, did you? Listen to our town on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. So, what like by Asia, rather than or so, at least 70% have a phone. I'm Dr. Joy and this is Therophy for Black Girls. We spin our surviving middle school run, getting into what's happening inside your kids' brain, the group chat and their friendships and what you can do about it. Your child is not doing this on purpose. That's the kind of perspective we've been pulling from the psychologists and psychiatrists who study this for living. Listen to Therophy for Black Girls on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. And he has four plays pulled up on the monitor and he hits play and he fast-forward to rewinds it dozens of times. It hits the next one. Fast forward to rewinds it doesn't. Third play.

3:03Fourth play. All four were my only four in completions and he puts the remote down and he looks at me and said you could listen to everything that they're saying on TV. And if you do, you will have no chance of ever being your best. Now I realize I've worn my favorite pink sweater for one of our most masculine guests and a long time it is Tim Tebow. I'm a big Tebow fan. I've been able to meet him a couple times. It's been a little bit of time with him and he's always the kindest, most generous, that guy that looks you in the eyes and makes you feel like you're the only guy in the room type guy. Like that has always been my experience with Tim Tebow, even before this interview. For those that don't know sports because this is not really going to be a sports interview, Tim Tebow is a two time national champion. A high-spin trophy winner, college football hall of fame, NFL quarterback, baseball player. He's on ESPN now. He is written seven New York Times bestselling books.

4:06He's the founder of the Tim Tebow Foundation, which fights for some of the world's most vulnerable people. He's a speaker and he's a dad and now Tim has a new devotional called 40 Days to Look Again. Coming out September 29th and we're going to talk about that. And we'll talk about what he's doing now and what's important to him. So here he is. One of the nicest guys I know, Tim Tebow. If you could just beat one team the rest of your life, what team would you beat? I'm obviously going to go to college because that's just the rival research. You can beat one team the rest of your life and you get to beat them every time. What team do you beat? Because we were pretty good and they were so good. You know, one of them that comes to mind is Alabama. But because I love the passionate tradition and the history behind it, I couldn't do them out half to pick either Georgia or I can't do either. I can't let you. It's hard.

5:07It's for me growing up. FSU was the disdain. My dad growing up before me, it was Georgia. This is you. You get to beat one team? No, we're winning our state. It's FSU. We're winning our state. There you have it. State Chelsea. There you have it. Tallahassee. You heard it. I got it. Tim, we're good to see you. Thanks for having me. I like the pink. Real man can wear some pink. Thank you. I have a daughter now. How do daughter about five months ago? Congratulations. Thank you. Congratulations to you, Drew. Thank you. We're just a little bit ahead of you. We're about 13 months now. How's that going with you? I tell you what, I don't feel like I was prepared, but it's such a crazy blessing. Oh, she is so fun. I was when we left the hospital, one, I drove so slow. My wife's like, this mad at me. She was like, what do you, like speed up? You're driving too slow. It's more dangerous than I was like for the first time ever, like totally like 10 and

6:09two, you know? And then we get home and we put Daphne and her best and at and I'm like, okay, what do we do now? Where's the manual for this? You just don't necessarily feel ready. At least I did it. Man, just the blessing of it, the joy. I would say probably one of the biggest impact, full things for me, was the feeling of responsibility. Like that just really kind of hit me in waves where we get home and I'm like, I start to see things differently. Like before I see our house and whatever we like to do, but now I'm like, she could fall there, she could slip there, you got to change this, we got to change this. We got to have him come in tomorrow. Timmy's like, well, she's not going to be walking for however many months, you know? But I think that level of responsibility, just to try to pave the way as much as you can, is just that, I guess the burden and the blessing of that is so special and so sweet, but it's been awesome.

7:09How about for you? It's the first time I've ever thought I don't want to embarrass myself or someone other than myself because if I, you know, if I'm doing stand up or riding or this, I just kind of go and I've made some mistakes. I've been fine a million dollars. I've done some real stupid things and it's just me. I was the only person that mattered because I was by myself and it was for my wife, but now that I have a wife and a daughter, there's a responsibility one to protect, but also I don't want her to be embarrassed of things that I do or say. You want her to be proud of death? Yeah, and I'm not a legacy guy. I don't so much care about that. At least I didn't. I just want my legacy to be now that I was there because my parents, I didn't have parents. So people would ask like, what do you want your legacy to be? And I did not care because whenever I leave here, hopefully it's slightly better than before

8:15I got here, but I didn't care. But now it's, I hope my legacy is, I was consistent. That's it with her and my wife. And those thoughts that never popped into my head or mine until her. What's your daughter's name? Her name is Billy. Billy. My name draft her, my wife's dad, so her grandpa. Yeah, so it's crazy to like the things that you learn about yourself when you have a kid. Have you had that where you're starting to like see, do you see your parents different now that you have a kid? But some areas, yes. Some areas I would actually say I feel like I'm more grateful for all the things mom and dad did. Some of the things I didn't understand, some of the ways that they sacrificed for us, that they led all of the things they gave up. You know, I was asked and kind of hit me on the spot this morning. I was actually asked one day when Daphne's more grown, what would you want her to say about you?

9:16And I was like, I never thought about it that way. If I asked you that, what would you want Billy to say about you one day? He was there. Yeah. Because I didn't, I don't say that about my teenage parents, so they were gone. So it's weird because what we didn't have is what we want to make sure they do have. And so that's what I would say, what did you say? I said that I hope that one day Daphne would say that I did everything to protect her, to love her, to support her, to propel her and whatever she wants to do, that I was present with her, not just there, but present. And that I loved her and I loved Jesus. And I made, I helped her see hopefully along the way what love and love of Christ really

10:22looks like. Why did you guys never Daphne? One of the women that really cared for my wife's mom, sort of like her grandma, but not exactly. It just was an amazing, strong, very small petite lady, but just with crazy courage actually sort of became Demi's grandma. And she just loved her and she loved the name. And that was kind of her idea of a grandma and just wanted to honor her and say thank you, but also like hopefully, you know, we would be able to help Stewart her to be an amazing lady like that that went out of her way to help people that technically weren't family, but brought them in as family. And then her middle name, the harder for me is actually named after the youngest survivor we've ever been able to safeguard and care for.

11:23She was a breast care 25 days old and she just totally stole me and my wife's heart. And just amazing, amazing young girl. And we wanted her to be named after people that were just so meaningful and special to us. So her name is Daphne Rain. What do you call her grandparents? Meaning I don't think that the other grandkids should be able to name the grandparents and Billy's supposed to call like Papa Nana. I didn't agree to that. I don't know. I had nothing to do with it. I think those, like I'd be fine with grandma and grandpa. My grandma raised me. And so I think grandma and grandpa's fine, but they're older grandkids like my wife's siblings have had kids. Apparently you get to plant the flag if you're born first and you call them like Gubu and Gaba or whatever it is. So like that's been the one part of it that's been a little frustrating for me is I,

12:25we didn't have anything to say what we call them. Yeah, this is probably, yeah, I think I agree. But I also don't know because my wife's from South Africa and her first language is Afro-Cons. And so I don't know if she'll use some of that language or if it would be grandma and grandpa. It's also been a little bit harder for us too. She lost both of her grandfather's this year. My dad went to heaven and so did Demi's dad. And so she won't necessarily have that figure in her life, but there's a lot of other incredible men including Demi's stepdad. That's an amazing man. And she has a lot of amazing so called uncles too. Well, I hope you get to name them because I got stuck with names. I don't know. You got to give me some good advice and what we should name them. I don't know. And like, it doesn't even matter. I just wanted the autonomy to name. Our baby's grandparents with what our baby calls them.

13:26And this is such a small thing. It does, but it feels so personal to you right now. Yeah, it's like the one that has been really, it's not bothersome because that's not a real problem. But it's just as a little irritating, yes. That and the teething because if she just had two teeth popped through it once, that's miserable. Yeah, we've gone through a lot of it. The teething is not fun. We tried all the things that we read to do and we put all the stuff on it and try, but that's just one of those pains. That's something else I've learned that I always try to fix things. And I think generally, you know, I read, this is going to be stereotypical, the men try to fix things. So I just want to fix it. And my wife is, hey, sometimes you just can't fix it. You just have to be there in support. Yeah. And that's been. That's not easy. That's not. So even like sometimes me and my wife will have conversations where sometimes you you know, she'll bring something up and be like, okay, do you want me to help try to solve it?

14:26Or do you just want me to listen? And sometimes I will. Sometimes I will. And I would say 80% times she's like, I just want you to listen. I'm going to do, I just want you to listen. I just want to talk about it, externally process it. I'm like, okay, and it's actually pretty helpful. Like sometimes to just like be very, bring clarity to it and be like, okay, do you want me to help try to, you know, see if I can help solve this or just, do you want me to listen? It's okay on our tutor though. At least for me, it sounds like it is for you to not go, okay, I see a problem. I'm going to do everything I can to fix said problem for person I love. Yes. With my wife, it was the same thing when we got married and we go to therapy every single well every two weeks, but with the purpose we've been going since before we were married. And I think that's one of the things I had to focus on the most is not trying to fix everything because fixing it is not always what the desired action is. Sometimes it's just holding. It's right. And that again, that goes away from my tendency so yeah, that's kind of naturally. I'm whatever any a gram eight.

15:28I'm an eight. Yeah, I'm an eight too. Yeah. You're an eight. You're a challenger. You challenge me. I just, I like getting stuff done. Yeah. You know, yeah. Do you ever get in the comments? You don't seem like a comment guy like on social media. Never. Like look at it. Yeah. Oh no. No. I just, I want to keep that so far away. I feel like no matter how mentally strong it affects you and you think about it and it's in your brain and I don't want to have those thoughts. I want to try to put the right thoughts in and focus on it. And you know what? And things me and my wife always try to say to encourage one another is we don't get to control what people say about us, but we do get to control who speaks into us. You know, and what voices we allow to speak in and shape our heart and our mind and ultimately that then actually does shape your future. You know, and so no, we do, at least I don't like ever.

16:29I'm a massive product of your environment guy like you are what you put yourself into and who you surround yourself with. And you are what you get yourself out of. And so I'm very much that. So I have to create boundaries for myself and I only go into comments or DMs on Tuesdays. Like that's the day for me because I know I'll fight with everybody in the comments. It'll be a classic 90s bar brawl in the comments where bottles are all buzzed overhead. So it's, it's Tuesdays only, but I allow myself to go into the comments then go into my DMs then. And what I do and this is it, I feel like this is a selfish thing. So I'm saying this because I do it selfishly. I had such a bad relationship with social media and all of the voices that I would let affect me that have no effect on me. Yeah. And so what I started to do was I would go into my DMs and I would say it, I would say if you need help DM me because I want my DMs to be a place that I don't have to go into thinking I'm dodging.

17:30So on Tuesdays I go in and I grab four or five people and I see their story and I just Venmo them. I don't have to follow up because I don't like to always hate what's in my phone and what I'm always around. And it's not about me being like, look at me. I'm very grateful that I get to help. And it's selfish because I do it to make me feel better as in I don't want to hate social media. I don't want to hate. And so I found that to be a tool that allows me to live a healthier life, to help. If I'm in a bad place, I've always found that if I serve, it helps me get out of a bad place. I totally, thousand percent agree with one of my good friends and one of the people that was really helped me in trying to be accountable to a lot of things whenever something really hard would take place or disappointing or feel like you're in the, just in that valley. We had a deal. First thing we did, no matter what morning, noon, night, we would go find somewhere to serve. And it is, in my opinion, the greatest thing to get you out of that funk.

18:35I've only in the last couple of years found that that to me is a funk or leaser because I would just try to fix, again, we're just trying to, we're talking about problems and how do we fix a problem and we attack that problem right on, but I've just found that whatever my problem is, a hundred people will be so happy to have my problem. And so if I can help, I found that to be my selfish way of helping myself and serving has helped me so much whenever there's such a weight on me. And that's a pretty new thing for me because I always felt that I wanted everything to be a little better because I had been there. But man, social media can be so toxic and hard. It can be used for good. Yes. And that's what I, that's my, trying to be my relationship with it. Can I ask how do you, how do you like to serve? What also fills you up when you serve? So what fills me up, and again, this is all, it all feels so selfish talking about it

19:36is that I feel like if I can help things that I needed when I was a kid. So mostly like food insecurity, big time. And that doesn't have to be through social media, but we didn't have three meals for a lot of my life. And so to know what that's like and to hopefully alleviate some of that pressure and pain, that financially helps me, it helps me help them. And again, this feels so weird to say because it does help me, it helps me. So that, I get that though. I mean, I really believe sometimes that some of our greatest pains in life actually end up turning to some of our greatest purpose in life. Like what we experience that might have been hard can actually lead to areas we can create impact because that, that was a pain, that was something hard. And now you get to have a purpose in helping those that are still in that situation.

20:40I used to be so resentful of it. I'm not anymore. I don't know about you and how, because we all have traumas. I don't know anyone that doesn't have traumas. I used to be so resentful of mine. Now I'm so grateful that I have them because I have such perspective and you cannot purchase or ask for perspective. You have to go through it to get it. And so I'm grateful for that at this point in my life. What about you? About perspective? Yeah. I think perspective is one of the easiest things in life to lose and one of the hardest things in life to gain. I really believe that. I think perspective changes everything. Perspective on gratitude versus comparison. We live in a society that I saw a stat not long ago, maybe a couple of years ago, that said 12% of our daily thoughts are spinning some form of comparison. And I thought, man, and I know I fall into that trap, especially when I've gone into disappointments, right?

21:40Like cuts or you get cut by a team, till you're not good enough. You can't do this. And all of a sudden, you know, I watch a game and all of a sudden I see myself comparing you're saying, well, I've never lost that guy or did this or that. And all of a sudden you're comparing and what comparison does is I believe it's a thief of all joy. That when you start comparison, your joy is just absolutely taken. And I don't believe that comparison and gratitude can coexist at the same time. I really don't believe that. You can go back and forth, but I don't believe they can coexist at the same time. And I found it for me is when I'm in a state of comparison, it's most of the time what you're saying to God is God, you screwed up on my plan. Because I should be doing that. I should look like her. I should have this. I should do this blah, blah, blah, whatever this. And that's not a state of gratitude. And so what I've tried to do to fight that is one, if I know that's an area of weakness for me, don't put myself in it. But also if I'm going to do it, I need to go through and practically work on and share and talk to people about all the things I'm grateful for.

22:41And remember all of the blessings that I have in my life, the people I have, the things I've gotten to do and see and be a part of. And that's a way to fight it for me. And that's an example of trying to fight, to keep perspective. Because I know that's an area where I can lose it quickly. And it's, I know this could be a pitfall. So let's prepare and fight it before we keep falling in the same trap. How do you catch it before it becomes so big that it really bothers you? I think friends, family, accountability, having those people speak into your life, talking about it before you just keep doing it. I think it's easy to say to people, no, I'm good. That's not even an issue. I'm fine. I'm totally good. And we just, we lie to ourselves. We lie to others. But then we also do it by lying to ourselves. And I think the easiest person to lie to is yourself. I really, I'm fine. I'm good. It's not even an issue. I'm good, right? But then all of a sudden you're there and you're thinking and your brain's going and all of a sudden you're falling into the same trap. So trying to be honest, trying to be vulnerable.

23:44And I don't think that has to be with everybody. But close people into your life, people that you allow to speak into you. I really believe in that. I believe in having people that love you, but love you enough to tell you the truth. And be there. And that you can count on or loyal, but that are also willing to maybe be disliked if you're frustrated too. You know, like those people are rare, but incredibly special. In my second book, I wrote, it's called Fail Until You Don't. And it's very practical. So I didn't reinvent any sort of wheel. And it's just do when it doesn't work out, like do it again, but make sure you learn something. Like that's basically the whole book. There's nothing magical about it. It was a super practical, hopefully, it was a guide for me that hopefully others could use, but there was a chapter in it I wrote talking about the value of people that can tell you suck. And what it was was, there's really the only people that you can believe to tell your

24:45awesome too. Because man everywhere, especially like with our jobs, you're awesome, you're awesome, you're awesome. Who knows? And it's easy to tell someone that they're doing a great job. But at this point, I value people that can be honest with me. Like my wife is that. I don't know if yours can do that. No, she can. And if it's, but when she tells me that I do something really well, like I know that it's real and it matters because she tells me when I don't. And again, if we're talking about counter-tuitive things, you go, well, why would you want someone that tells you the things aren't good? Well, because that's how I know I'm doing good when they tell me because they tell me when it's not. You can really trust it because you can really trust it. And I totally believe in that like having truth tellers in your life that you can really have speak into your life, I think, is so incredibly valuable and important. And I also really believe in Proverbs tells us, he walks in the wise, and he'll be wise, but the companion fools will suffer harm.

25:45And if you're around people that aren't trying to improve and grow and adapt and they're not speaking that into you, you're going to become who you're around every single day. And I want to have those people speak into me and tell me, dude, the way you've said that, that was awful. That was rude and patient. You sounded like a douche like I need that, you know? And I so desperately want that in my life and I think it's really helped me in so many days and the times I haven't. I really felt like I could have done better in so many situations. Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor. Hey, everyone. It's the Jonas Brothers with the Hey Jonas podcast. We've been catching up with some great friends, Paul Rod, Michael Bubley, Seth Meyers, Nile Horan, Jake Shane, and making some new friends while getting into what's really like to have sisters, like Alex National. She likes to control everyone and tell everyone to go. Okay, well control is a harsh word. I would say that's a harsh word. I am more outspoken, growing up a lot of the times because she was so quiet.

26:50I would speak for like the both of us. Now I'm working on like thinking a moment, really, not thinking before I speak. And Joey King. You know if your mom is yelling at your sibling and even if you're annoyed with your sibling, you just won't let that slide. It's like you only can yell at your sibling. I'm like, you can't do that here. That is not what I want talk about her like that. I just want to talk about her like that. Plus we've been taking your calls, listening to your voice mails and giving advice or at least trying to. So if you've got catching up to do now is the perfect time. Listen to Hey Jonas on the I Heart Radio app Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcast. When I was 14 years old, I was kidnapped and health captive for nine months. I survived and I've spent my life exploring how other people survive what should have destroyed them. I'm Elizabeth Smart and these are the survivor files. You just remember this low taunting voice next to my ear saying shut up, don't say anything.

27:51Every week I'm with survivors who live through the unthinkable. I knew if he woke up without a doubt he was going to hurt me. I started feeling that there was someone at the end of my bed and I just started screaming. They are abducted, stalked, controlled and nearly silenced. But these aren't stories about what's taken from them. Their stories about what it takes to make it out alive. Listen to the survivor files with Elizabeth Smart on the I Heart Radio app Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. On the new podcast, Solita, we share the messy reality of traveling alone as a woman. I can wait four hours for the next bus or this random dude is offering me a ride on his motorcycle. I choose option B. I'm Julie Beniero and I travel by myself because it's a rare space where I can say yes without asking anyone else first. I'm on a mission to reclaim the word solita, trading the pity for possibility.

28:54Every time I try to be alone, I kept meeting people and they were like, you smiled at us, not a lot of people smile around here. It's when you're alone that you're most receptive to the world as it is and not the lies you're sold about it. It can be a time where you push your limits, change your mind or wake up to a new version of yourself. So whether you're a solo travel veteran or you're too nervous to book your first trip, I hope you listen to Solita on the I Heart Radio app, Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. If you're a bookshelf and you're for you page are equally important to your personality, welcome home. This is Pro's Society, the weekly podcast that's part book club, part group chat for thought daughters, pop culture obsessives and anyone who thinks pride and prejudice and love island deserve the same level of discourse. I'm Eli Rallo and every week we're connecting the dots between books, the internet and the conversations everyone can't stop having. I'm going to have to look up this story. I'm obsessed.

29:54So obsessed. From bestselling authors and your favorite book talk creators to the latest pop culture moments, nothing is off the table. So like if you can hide some real messages inside compelling characters and that is a Trojan horse, whether you're looking for literary deep dives, smart pop culture conversations or a community of readers who love to think a little too much, you're in the right place. Listen to Pro's Society on the I Heart Radio app, Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. See you between the pages. Our town is small taters by most standards, right? But to the people who grew up here, it's everything. What happens when a quiet Tennessee town becomes the front line in a battle over the future of America? Developers with right wing ties have purchased hundreds of acres of land in the area. The first thing you see when it pops up is high nears and apple etch. But they weren't just planning houses. We need cities on a shining hill that exemplify and embody the Christian way of life.

30:56Stop right there. Is that normal? A podcast about what happens when a small town becomes the site of a social experiment. God need men to rule. Great. And decides to fight back. Do not use my hard work to sell your bull. They're not just opposing what's being planned for here. Our hometown is not a test to. They feel like they're standing in opposition to an entire administration. I guess you didn't move in on a bunch of dumb hillbillies now, did you? Listen to our town on the I Heart Radio app, Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back on the Bobby cast. It's funny to say it's what you want in your life because I think that too, except I hate it, but I need it. Because I don't. It doesn't feel good. It's like failure in general. And people will go, you write and you talk about failure all the time, you like it. No, I hate it.

31:57Yeah. But I need it and I love that I'm able to do it. But also without failure, the success would mean near the same. I'd be like being born into royalty and not understanding what it was like to actually work and have. I would hate that. And I totally agree with that. And I just believe that failure many times can be our greatest learning lessons in life. It can be the areas we actually grow and adapt the most. Yes, you can learn from wins, but me and sometimes the pain and agony of defeat will actually propel you because you don't want to feel like that. And I think that can be something that can be so motivating, but also transforming because it's easier to sometimes, you don't always want to look. Actually, I remember my first start at the University of Florida. We played not a very good team and we won and I, I think went 13 for 17 for a low over 300 yards, touched down since more rushing yards and touched down since the game went good,

32:58got pulled right after half time. We're winning and the next morning I was the first one into the office and there was one offensive coach that beat me in there and I walk in and I've most of the time I'm pretty happy and try to be joy-filled and walk in and he looks at me and goes, why are you smiling? And sometimes the question asked shouldn't be a question answered, you know, as you don't say anything, sits it down and he has four plays pulled up on the monitor and he hits play and he fast forwards and rewinds it dozens of times. That's the next one, fast forward to rewinds it doesn't, third play, fourth play, all four were my only four in completions and we've watched them each a dozen times and he puts the remote down and he looks at me and said you could listen to everything that they're saying on TV and listen to ESPN and what all the people are saying and if you do, you will have no chance of ever being your best. If you're just willing to listen to the hype and the praise, the only chance you'll

34:01have ever being your best is if you're willing to look at your suck. How did you feel about that? Oh, everything in my flesh wanted to be like, dude, you just sound bitter. You sound like a mean grumpy old coach but he taught me such a valuable lesson that I now I'm so grateful for and throughout that time we actually got really, really close and sometimes because of those hard conversations and I was so grateful for it because he taught me such a valuable lesson. Like if I want to be my best and our team wants to be our best, it's not going to come because you just look at highlights. It's going to come because you're willing to study the disappointments and that's very hard to look at. It's very hard to study those things and be willing to look at it so that you wouldn't repeat it. And I remember going over and say you do this against, you know, Georgia, Ohio State or this team or Tennessee, we'll always still probably be Tennessee. But the other ones we're going to lose. And it was like, yes, there's a lot in me that my flesh and my pride didn't want to hear that.

35:02But when I would humble myself and actually try to be a listener, he was actually telling me incredibly good advice. And I still remember that to this day is just such a, I think a hard lesson too, but I mean it's not hard in the moment. Like there's nothing physically hard about it, but it's just, it's just shots at your pride, right? But it was such a valuable lesson. And I'm just beyond grateful for that coach. I hope I'm not speaking out of turn here, but I would think that when he would praise you later, you accepted that so much more because you knew it was real. So much more. And it actually made me want to do good enough to earn his praise. Who was the coach? Do you mind saying? No, I don't feel like I can do it. It's okay. But you said such nice things about it. Yeah, it's hard to live in something that doesn't feel good, delayed gratification, right? And my TikTok is a lot of baby videos now because obviously we have a baby.

36:04Don't we get that? And to watch swaddles. Oh, that's another thing. Were you a good swaddleer? Well, no. But they make those swaddles now that you really don't have to do all the work. There are easy now. There would be times where I'd have to try to swaddle her myself and it would end poorly. If it was, and what Divis of my wife was always like, it's not tight enough. And I'm like, babe, I don't want to cut off circulation. She's like, you know, it's got to be tighter. And I was like, who the hell was like, I was like, okay, you got to do it because I don't want to, like, it's just too tight. She's like, no, they need it. I feel with the girl, it has given me a softness that I did not think that I had in me either because I think if I had a little boy with a little girl, I didn't want the swaddle to be so tight. I was scared to make it tight because this is like a sensitive flower. And my wife was like, tight, got it. Me, I was just, so, but I've never been that gentle towards anything.

37:07And I think having a girl has done that for me. Yeah. Do you think that you will be able to discipline her? My easy answer is yes. I know it's right. Like obviously we all need structure and coaching and encouragement and love. And I've told him, he like, I don't know, 50 times. I'm like, I don't know if I can do it. I don't know if I can, like, I think you're going to have to do it. And she's like, are you going to make me have to be like the hard parent? We have the same conversation because I talk a really big game and then my wife, even in micro moments now, she's like, you're the wimpiest. You're nothing like you say you are. You're not Mr. Tough Guy. Me too. I'm a, I'm a, I'm the baby. I am the baby too. Yes. I was watching some clips of you talk about and my language may not be right. So please, please, if I don't say things right here because, but I was watching some clips of you talking about what you're very involved in, which is the trafficking or

38:12anti trafficking. Thank you. Yeah. Big difference. Yeah. And again, I'm going to say things wrong. No, you're not. I'm just giving our time. Because yes. And I was watching you, like, show computers and, and for my first question is, why is this so passionate? Why are you so passionate about this? What happened in your life to make you want to be so involved? Yeah. Thank you for asking me about it. It really is one of, if not the biggest, greatest passions in my life. And I think it's one of the greatest evils in our world right now. And I really believe it's a battle between good and evil. What made me passionate, I think what helped lead me into this fight was many years ago. My dad, who was a missionary evangelist, pastor, preacher, all the above, was in a third world country where faith isn't allowed. And he was leading pastors and underground pastors conference. So they don't get arrested and they can go back to their communities and, and do ministry.

39:13And when they're under in this underground location, other men enter with four little girls and they start to auction off these four little girls. And my dad is just not someone that could look the other way or do nothing. So I just want to just want my greatest heroes. He takes out all the money in his wallet for the rest of the trip and to get up back home. And it was about $250 and he was able to purchase the freedom of these four girls. And afterwards my dad calls me, like, hey, dad, how's the trip going? Like, what are you up to? And he's, then he tells me what just transpired. And that's not your normal Monday night conversation, right? And I couldn't help but ask, hey, dad, all of these pastors, what did they do? Where any of them like, hey, Mr. Teebo, let me go find them. A place to stay tonight. Mr. Teebo, let me go find them. They're all, I'll get breakfast in the morning like not one of them. And he said, I'll tell me you, you don't want to hear. They all made really, really good excuses. Like you know, Mr. Teebo, the man you just gave that money to, they're going to go do something evil with it.

40:15Which is probably true. But go say that to those four little girls. And that was the first part that was very convicting to me of how many times have I been someone that has just made really good excuses when I didn't do what I knew I was supposed to do. And then I got on a flight and I flew to this location. And one of the first little girls that ran up to me and this little girl hold up my leg. One day her mom selling her, she didn't make enough money. And her mom being in just such desperation and frustration when she came home. Her mom took her and she boiled out her eye because she thought, well, if nobody, if you can't make enough money, then I'll make you look a little bit worse and people might have more pity on you. And I just didn't know what to say to this little girl.

41:19What do you say to her when you want to share something encouraging about love or faith or family, but her idea of love, her idea of family? Dad's the first one to rape you and mom's the first one to sell you. Like the people that are supposed to protect you or the worst moments of your life, what do you say to her? And I just be honest and say in the moment, I didn't know what to say. And many days still now, I don't have words. One of the things I feel like I've learned along the way, sometimes there aren't perfect words for a situation, but what's needed is just consistency, just show up again and again and again. And now that little girl has grown up and she still has her scars, but she also has

42:20a lot of joy that oozes through the scars. And that was the biggest catalyst for me into the fight and then learning more about it and then getting into the fight against human trafficking and then child exploitation and satanic ritualistic abuse and child sacrifice and organ harvesting and sex torsion and all of this evil and it's just been honestly something that I believe that God has called and created me for this fight. And I've just screwed up so many things in my life. This is one that I genuinely feel like he has called me into and it's one of the greatest fights of my life. And it's the worst evil in the world in my opinion. You have more than 50 million people that are trapped in human trafficking. There's more people that are in slavery than ever before in human history. And this year you will have more than 400 boys and girls that will be abused or exploited around the world, 400 million plus.

43:21Like, we're talking about some of the worst evils on planet earth and then, you know, sometimes people ask, but what about here in the States? Like we got to be doing better, right? That would be my question how prevalent is it here? Well, it can get a little bit complicated in some of it, but although in some of trafficking we're a little bit better than other still trafficking is off the charts here. It's in every neighborhood and community and exploitation is off the charts. Like when it comes to the trading and distributing of child sexual abuse material, essentially children getting abused and raped, we are third worst in the world. We're in Russia, Russia, US. And then when it comes to the buying of live stream rape of boys and girls, we're number one in the world. And so there, I love our country so much. And we have been blessed and we are blessing to so many around the world, but in this fight,

44:21yes, I believe that we are failing and we have to do better. There are so many boys and girls suffering in our neighborhoods and every single one of our neighborhoods from the richest neighborhoods to the poorest neighborhoods. Like this is an evil that crosses every single one of them and we have to do better. It's not that I like going up to Washington, DC, but we have to and thankful to the Lord. A few weeks ago we were able to get a big bill pass that we believe will help a lot of lives and we're working on more and we got to make more legislation. We got to be able to enhance more law enforcement. We got to have more people standing on the line fighting against this evil. This is an evil that is so rampant here in our country and around the world. There's just so many stories I could tell you and evidence of it. Probably one of the maps that maybe you saw was the red dot map.

45:23Exactly what it was. That was just a six month screenshot of a law enforcement database where they track unique IP addresses that are downloading sharing or distributing child rate images almost all under the age of 12 and just a six month screenshot of the US is over 338,000 unique IP addresses that we're doing this. It covered the whole map. Yes. It started off and it was just a white picture of a map and then it was all red. Yes. If it's not if because it's that prevalent, why isn't this a bigger story? It's a really good question and thank you for asking. I don't know if I'd have a perfect answer. I think one because it's very messy and complicated and there's so many different crime types under it. Like when you talk about human trafficking, there's four main types of trafficking. It's not just necessary human trafficking.

46:25No, it's labor trafficking, sex trafficking, it's organ harvesting. It's so many different things. When you get under exploitation, that gets even more complicated. That's grooming and sex torsion and CCAM and you just so many different things. It becomes very messy and muddy. It's not necessarily like just selling drugs. No, it's so complicated and very unique. It's very messy. I would say another reason would because it's naturally makes us very uncomfortable. It's one of the first responses we get from quite a few places. No, no, no, don't tell me. I don't want to know because it reminds me of my kids. It makes me uncomfortable. I feel like I used to be a little more patient with that and sometimes I don't think I do a good job of being patient because you see a lot of harm taking place to a whole of women and boys and girls and you're like, no, we have to be willing to be uncomfortable

47:27because what they're going through is actually hell on earth in my opinion. And we're saying we're not willing to be comfortable because we're not willing to even talk about this to strategize to even be aware of this and it makes us that uncomfortable. And I'm not trying to say that has to be everybody's fight. But until we make it enough people's fight, no, you're going to have this suffering of so many boys and girls. And one statistic would say your average girl that is being trafficked gets rate 5.3 times per day. That is horrible and that is evil. And we're going to say we're not willing to be uncomfortable. At least talk about it to share stories so to create awareness, to create a movement against it. Like, no, we have to we have to be able to do better than that because she is suffering in such a horrible place right now. And one more day for her and that life is worth us doing everything so she doesn't have experience that again. Is there a practical vigilance that people can have to be aware or to help curb this in any way?

48:30Yeah, I think what my probably my first encouragement with that and thank you for asking, it probably wouldn't be quite in like the anti-human trafficking space. That's a little bit harder for probably your average person. But what they can do is one talk to their boys and girls when every time they get online or they get on a gaming app, they have to know that there are so many predators that are looking for them. Like, and I have so much evidence to be able to show this over and over and over again. One of our partners, an awesome doctor named Dr. Michael Burke, a user lead behavioral analysis for the US marshals. He told me one day we're sitting there talking about it. He said, Tammy, what you need to tell every single mom and dad is every time their boy or girl picks up a phone. It's like dropping them off at a playground knowing that hundreds of pedophiles are walking around. That's what it's like every time they get on the internet. And when we have seen that now for so many years and it is only growing and growing and growing,

49:30I'll give you one example of sex dorsion. Sex dorsion is growing like crazy. It's essentially black male. And there's three main crime types with that. There's like relational sex dorsion, which is happening mostly to girls. And that's they get an explicit photo of them and they leverage it to get more photos because of a perclivity. Then there's another super fast growing crime type. It would be financially motivated sex dorsion. And this is be done by a lot of people in West Africa and Southeast Asia to American boys. Primarily about 90% boys is they are catfishing them by pretending to be a pretty girl, learning them and all of a sudden this boy sends a photo and then they say, got you an over 35 boys committed suicide last year because of it. And in 2000, this is how fast it's growing in 2021. There was 139 reports of it for the entire year. Now on average, there's 137 reports a day of financially motivated sex dorsion. And primarily with boys that

50:32have a scholarship or reputation play sports because they're in all of a sudden they get catfished. And now they're so ashamed and they feel like their world is collapsing. And that's what's leading to so much of the suicide. And so my encouragement to all the parents and moms and dads that are watching is would you have this conversation with your son or your daughter before they ever get to it and say no matter what happens, we love you. Like we love you so much. There's nothing that you could do that we wouldn't love you. So if this happened, please come to us. And then I want to encourage families to be able to have the conversation. And then if this does happen, don't pay the predators, save it, don't delete it, block the predators, don't leave it, call your local law enforcement, let them bring in so they can have an investigation and be able to dive into it. And then I'd also encourage them if the images do get sent to other website or around their schools, which is happening all the time to go to Nick Mac National Center for Missing Exploited Children and go and take it down and they will help take down those images that are, you know,

51:37exploding all around in their communities. And then if they are considering self-harm because out of those that get sex-storted, one in seven are committing self-harm. And if you are committing, thinking considering committing self-harm, Thorene has created a helpline and all you got to do is call our texts, 741, 741, and there are people that want to help them in their time of need. And there are so many people that love and care about every single one of them that we just don't want this to happen to one more boy or girl. The Bobby Cast will be right back. Hey everyone, it's the Jonas Brothers with the Hey Jonas podcast. We've been catching up with some great friends Paul Rod, Michael Bubley, Seth Meyers, Nile Horan, Jake Shane, and making some new friends while getting into what's really like to have sisters like Alex and Ashton Earl. She likes to control everyone and tell everyone to go. Okay, well control is a harsh word. I would say that's a harsh word. I am more outspoken. Growing up a lot of the times because she was so quiet, I would speak for like the both of us.

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57:54so preemptive. Yes. Like the education, it feels like that you or people like you that are leading this cause that there has to be like such a long space before it could ever even happen to educate your kid to know that if something like this does happen in a way in this way is not near as bad, but it would be like if you're going to drink, you're not going to get in trouble, call me and I'll come get you. That's right. It's a much lesser. But that's right. But like, listen, it's not going to give us the most joy, but we still love you. And we're always here to protect you. And I really believe that the conversations need to be a grace-based conversation that we love you no matter what. You're always part of our family. You can never do anything not to be. And that's just my encouragement to parents because seeing this happen to so many boys and girls, it's just heartbreaking. And this isn't something that's just happening to like lower income families.

58:56No, it's across the board. This is happening in the nicest of neighborhoods and the lowest economic areas. And it's all across the board. And so many of the offenders, they're looking for vulnerabilities. Upset a mom or dad, you know, have a scholarship on social media and maybe saying some things, you know, a little aggressive on there and they're getting lured in and all of a sudden and then I can tell you, I could, you know, personally show you some of the chats too. I mean, and they're ruthless. When they get it from them, they will encourage them. It is better for you to die. And they will keep saying it, keep saying it. And the kids feel like, man, my world is collapsing. But they don't realize that no, the whole world's not collapsing. You feel like it is. And they they feel in that shame. And I think shame is something that that it's something that destroys us from the inside out. And we have to help these boys and girls before they're in that position to

59:57know it's okay. They're still loved. They're still they've stuffed incredible value and that will never change. And they're okay. Talk to mom and dad. Call your local law enforcer. And there's people that love you. We'll talk to you that will work with you and you will get through this. I have a friend that works at a very high level for one of the letter agencies that works in child crimes. I'm always in awe of how he's able to do that period. I've got a period there first. And then also look at the world as a beautiful place at the same time. How do you do that? How do you do that? That's a good question. And I would say, man, I, all the law enforcement, when we get to work with and see and support and be a part of opera, I love them so much. It's some of the most amazing men and women. And especially when they're working on child crimes. And like some of these men and

1:00:58women that literally got to watch boys and girls get raped all day, I get really hard. And I mean, they miss days, they miss nights, they miss dinner, they miss Christmas, because they know if they don't find this little boy, no one else is. And they're out manned and they're understaffed and underfunded by far, it's not even close, like not even close. And so they are incredible. And it's a number one burnout rate for law enforcement. I would imagine, right? Not even close. By far, number one burnout rate. And we kind of do more to support them emotionally and mentally. For sure. But for me, it would be several things. But one of the biggest would be to see the joy through the darkness. To see the live transformation when a boy or a girl finally gets into a safe place, a place of love, real love and protection and care.

1:01:58To see them have the chance to flourish. For our foundation, we have six core values. We call it our five plus one because five is the number for grace. And we always want to have a plus one mentality. So instead of calling it six, color five plus one in our, our plus one core value is, is we bring our best because monsters are chasing her. And it's because a young girl who went through some of the worst evil imaginable for seven years in the middle of it. Why she's going through it. She wrote those words. Would you care enough to rescue me? Monsters are chasing me. So that's why we bring our best every day so that we can get to her before the monsters too. So that we can protect her from any more of those monsters. Like I would say that's, yes, it's daunting. It's overwhelming. And sometimes it feels like, man, what dent are we, are we able to make? And I think this last year, the team was just telling me, I think it was

1:03:02yesterday that that God has allowed us. And so many people have supported us. But with our, you know, team and partners, I think this last year, we've been able to safeguard just over 2,500 kids and be able to help hold accountable over 3,000 predators just in the last 365 days. And sometimes you think me in a grand scheme. That's just a dent, but it's not for those 2,500 kids. It's not for them. That's their whole world. Yeah, it's the Starfish story where one more. Guys walking on the beach and take the starfish everywhere and he's taking the throws it in. But there's thousands everywhere. He's got another throws it in and the kid says, why are you throwing starfish? And there's so many. You're never going to be able to get them all on. He goes, yeah, but I could did it for that one. That's right. That's right. I don't want this question to seem too simple because by me asking it, I'm also factoring in how hard you work, your persistence, your attitude, your effort. But are you ever thankful that you were good at football so you could bring to light things like this? Yes, sir. Very much so. I'm very grateful for the platform

1:04:08that a sports has given me. But I would also add to that, if my greatest effort at the end of my life was for a game, my life missed the mark. It just I believe it would miss the mark. And I hope I take that effort multiplied times a whole lot to fights like this. We're at the end of my life. It wouldn't be my greatest effort, passion, focus, determination was for a game. But it would be for those that are suffering, those that are in the darkest, most evil crisis, conflict, feel places. That's what I hope my greatest effort would be for. Will your parents able to allow you to keep that perspective even as a young athlete to know that the game you're playing, it's important. But you're eventually going to see it's not the most important thing. They helped me a lot with that, but I got to just be honest. It's hard to keep that priorities. I think just being honest, really honest about it, I think that I've

1:05:16it's easy to have, sometimes when you're asking, you're like, hey, what are the most important things in your life? And you're like, oh, it's faith, family, then football. But there's too many times, if I was being really honest, if you could actually weigh my heart, those would be flipped. It's not that I didn't love it or care, it's just that they weren't in the right order. They just weren't in the right order too many times, too many days. And again, perspective. And that's really, really hard. But yeah, I am so grateful for the platform that the game gave me. But I'm more platform than I get more grateful that I get to take so much of the lessons you learn from a game and they drive and the competitors and all of that. But now bring that to something that is so much more meaningful. Because you go, sorry. No, I would present a counter to whenever you question, and we were just talking. But whenever

1:06:21you say sometimes they were flipped, maybe they were flipped and you were focused, let's say on football the most over faith and family for a while. But knowing that if you focused on football, the most for a while in the end, because of your success in football, you would be able to pay so much into your faith and family because of your hyper focus into football. Like that was part of the plan. And so when you say that, it was wrong. What I hear in feel is at that time, maybe that's what was needed. So in the end, you could actually pour more into the faith and family because of the work you did for that limited time in football, where that was your focus. I totally, I totally get your point. But just because the results lead to something, doesn't mean it's the right thing to do. I was asked the other day about if you don't get to see this evil decrease in your life, something to the extent of it, just in a conversation,

1:07:26would you still do it? Of course, over and over and over again, because we can't just do things, because of what we hope the result might be, we have to do it because we believe it's right, because every one of the boys and girls is worth it. And yes, man, do I hope and pray. The result is that we get to decimate some of this evil and kids are protected and they can be able to play at playgrounds and have freedom and love and just yes, that would be amazing. But even if it doesn't happen, we still have to do it. We still have to do it. We still have to get up and go do it because they're worth it. They're worth it in the fight. They're worth the sacrifice for. I believe that they're worth it to King Jesus to die for. That means they're worth it for us to live and fight for. And so yes, I totally get your point. But regardless, just not a thought. Yeah, I totally get it. But for me, it would be worth it regardless of the outcome.

1:08:33I know you're in town tonight and you're speaking tonight as we're taping this. What is your message? Like when you would speak tonight, when you will speak tonight, like what's the message? Well, partially, try to equip and encourage the individuals. And also, it will be to share about this evil specifically and get to share with some people you get to work with. One of them's ego freedom fund. It's a fun that we invest in and a lot of tech founders that are creating tech to be able to fight back against this evil. We also do that with AI trying to use AI for good. Like I could give you a good example. I'd encourage the parents that are watching. Am I opinion? If you got a boy or girl, you should get them the if you're going to get them a phone, get them the barcphone. It is, but it does not allow them to send or receive explicit images. It will, if any of them are getting groomed or lured away or any of this, it will notify the parent or guardian. Like that's a it's a great thing. And we need more out there. Listen, I am not naturally against big tech, but too many times big tech is choosing more profit versus

1:09:39more protection of boys and girls. Like we have seen that over and over again. I do want to be be very transparent though to say that Google has been remarkable. Google leads two thousands of rescues of boys and girls every every single year. I don't think I would have expected you to say that. And not that it's a Google thing. I just mostly I feel like tech companies don't care except what they do care about is getting bigger and making more money. Yes. I very much agree with you, but they have so much radical influence around the world. And if they were willing to say, no, we are going to put the protection of boys and girls. They could do it so fast. The technology is there. They could do it. Like there is such a problem right now with so big tech have to be able to send trafficking or exploitation. If they get alerts of it or they see this or their programs detected, they got to send it to Nick Mac National Center for Missing Boyd Children.

1:10:39But what happens very often right now is they don't send all of the metadata with it, which all of the metadata is locations and information and everything that law enforcement needs to be able to work that case. Yeah. They could it would take no more time or energy for them to do it. They don't do it most of the time. That means boys and girls will not be safeguarded and rescued because they're not willing to do it. Now there's some people at some of those places that do work really hard at it. But as a whole in general, they could do so much better. And I'm just pled with them to please be willing to do this. And I would say the same thing for gaming platforms like Roblox. It is filled with pedophiles and predators. So many. I could personally tell you dozens of kids that have been hurt because of it. Like we have to do better as a society. Like I am not trying to like micro manage all of that. That's not even my beliefs. But if they are

1:11:44willing to say no, we're just putting profit over people. We're putting profit over kids. We're putting profit over this. Then yes, I am begging like Congress to step in to do something. And one of the things that we're hoping and praying they would do is vote on the Stop CCM Act, which will for the first time be able to allow kids that are victims of exploitation to have their day in court against big tech. That would be vitally important. It does a whole lot of other really good things. But that is one really good thing that it would do. And it will force them to send the metadata over to Nick Mix. The law enforcement can work those cases. A lot of other things with it. But as a society, man, when you see the suffering, we have to do better. And I believe we can. And I believe there's a lot of people that want to stand on the line to fight against this. And I'm hoping and praying that maybe some of the big tech companies will have a change of heart and step out there and do something. I appreciate you sharing all that. I know if I didn't ask too many questions about that. I'm grateful. Thank you for letting me share to your audience. I genuinely

1:12:49mean that. I know sometimes it makes people uncomfortable. I'm very grateful that you were willing to just stay in the conversation. I mean that. That's not, I don't get that all the time. So thank you. Thank you. I'm just shocked as to when you actually hear the data that it's not a bigger story. You're also right. It does make people wholly uncomfortable. And it's like, how do you merge those to actually create change? Because you're right. If somebody's working all day and they're scraping by and they're home and the last thing it doesn't have to be this, they don't want to have to do something uncomfortable. They're just trying to get to the next day. Yeah. Well, I really appreciate that you care so much that you've dedicated so much of your life to it for anything positive. This is, this is your calling. And it's so I appreciate how much you've invested of you into it because that could be, it could be

1:13:50anything. You could be a football coach right now. Why aren't you a football coach? This is so much more important and meaningful. And I've been invited to some cool offers and that. But man, and I love the game. You know, I love the game. You still love football. Of course, I love football. I love it. It's awesome. But man, if I'm being honest and I really do love it, but you're literally taking a fake picture and putting it inside a rectangle inside another rectangle while 11 dudes chase you around. Like, and I love the game. And I still love getting to, you know, be a part of it with SEC Nation and ESPN and part of that. But the rest of the week, man, I want to be able to, to care for the RNV piece, the most vulnerable people on planet earth. I spent way too much of my life chasing a less important MVP. Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor. Hey, everyone. It's the Jonas Brothers with the Hey Jonas podcast. We've been catching up with

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1:20:04Brought to you by the people who spend their careers thinking about exactly this. I'm Dr. Joy. Listen to therapy for Black girls on the iHeartReneo app Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcast. And we're back on the Bobby cast. Can I ask you a few football questions before we wrap? Of course. Question one. When you beat Arkansas in the SC Championship game. I'm sorry. I guess sorry I'm not sorry but sorry. I was there. Is it Atlanta? Not not not a great day for us. Your freshman year. I remember Ah this T-Bot kids can show he's gonna play. Yeah, a lot of goal line. Chris Leake started I believe. I believe you scored. Maybe a couple time. Have you touched on you? It doesn't matter. Yeah, yeah, I agree. It doesn't matter at all.

1:21:06How good how good is that game feel for you? That felt good. That was a crazy game though. It was we went up. You all came back. We came back. Have you been the pick six? Maybe a fumble recovery. The punts were actually crushed. Do you remember the point? I do. What did we get a safety or are you fumbled in the end zone? It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. But that team was good. And I got to be very honest with you. I mean it's from bottom of heart. I hope Arkansas gets back. I think it's great for the country. I think it's great for the SEC. I love the rivalries. I was so excited when like early on and Sam Pittman when he was there and their defense was doing good and they like had the rivalry with Texas was back. We were there for it. And I was like this place is awesome. You know. And and so I hope it gets back. Because I I think it's an awesome place. I think there's a piece of it that's a little bit of a sleeping giant. Like most people don't realize the history that's been there. How good they were for so many years. And like and I just remember going to play there not just that year. But then I got

1:22:09to play him against again against Arkansas. My junior and senior year and my senior year. Like we're a number of team in the country and y'all came to the swamp and we had to go win on a game winning drive. Yeah. We didn't win though. It just so everybody knows. The story doesn't change. No, but they were good to see the good team. Like it's just I love the passion and tradition there. It's awesome. It's contagious. Like when it's the last time we did a show there, I think John daily was it's just it's a trip. Like it's awesome. And it's just so fun. So I hope they get back. You just did the T-boat thing and I asked you how good it was. You turn it into how good Arkansas is. So like I can respect and appreciate that and how nice you are there. Okay. Two other football questions left. When you go up and you give the speech and the boy, you know, and now there's the plaque on the wall. Oh, the after we lost. Yeah. Yeah. Thanks for bringing that up. But yeah. You did lose. However you didn't lose again. Yes. Yes. Sir. That's right. How long until you realized that resonated? Oh, wow. I so it's funny about that is after the fact.

1:23:19I went back to the locker room. I threw on a hoodie kind of threw it on my head because there's still media walking around and I went to the elevator go to take the elevator to the coaches room just start watching the film that I wanted to go throw up watching. And as I'm getting in the elevator, all these media then walked in behind me. But I'm back of a big elevator and my hoodie on and hats on and they start talking and they just start crushing me. Crushing like bro, these are going to get torched for that. How can he's not going to live up to that? I couldn't even believe that. Could you believe you said that plumb of blood? And they're all at least you know, like games real media. And I'm just I mean, like just torching me. And and it's not like if people remember, it's not like that was a pleasant week or the next weeks, you know, until a few weeks later we beat LSU and I think there were two or three and then it got better and all of a sudden we start running the table. But you know sometimes you just I one of my favorite quotes from Winston Churchill was if you have enemies good, it means you stood

1:24:28for something at least once in your life. And for me, that has been very hard because I'm a people pleaser by nature. I want to be friends with people. I want people to like me. And so sometimes in that makes it harder to stand up for things that you believe are right. But in that moment, my only hope and goal was to genuinely apologize because I just myself felt like I let down my team in Gator Nation. It was my fault. And I just really believe that when you do something wrong, you should apologize and not just say I apologize, say I'm sorry. That's why I said it twice. Because I believe it was my fault. And I was just trying to do take responsibility. And then I was always taught after you do something wrong when you apologize, then you say how it's going to be different. And that was just my hope. And now some people were like, it's so cool. You said y'all were going to win the championship. I'm like, usually I don't even say anything. I'm like, my head I'm like, no, I never said that. I got that was never part of this. You know, and now it's

1:25:32cool because, you know, yeah, people mention it. It's cool. But in the moment, it wasn't like that was like, oh, this is awesome and praised. You know, I would say the most meaningful thing was our practice the next day. We just sighted where players only meeting had a practice. And we went out and it was the most violent practice I was ever part of. And afterwards, a whole team came together and that team, I don't believe that there's probably been behind that team that thought we were going to lose again that year. And maybe we'd have the chance to play for it all. But one of my favorite stories from it is one of my friends on the team that wasn't getting the chance to play. He was a backup wide receiver. And after he heard that, he said, man, I just heard what Timmy said and went to coach and said, coach, would you just give me a chance to earn my way on to special teams? So Erwin said, yeah, he and he got some reps of special teams and he kept getting better and better and by the silver backup, but by the last game of season versus,

1:26:33I don't even like saying their name, but FSU and Percy Harvin, who was just one of the most remarkable players I've ever seen in my entire life. And he got hurt. And he came into the game and did an amazing job. And then SEC Championship game, he caught one of the touchdowns against Alabama, who's number one in the country. And then he caught the game when he touched down in the national championship. And his name was David Nelson. And he went on to play six, seven, eight years in the NFL. And why love that is because sometimes in the beginning of years or teams or companies or businesses or ministries, you may think this is what your team looks like, but it doesn't. Your team changes and you evolve and you adapt and you grow. And that was one of the special things about this team is people just kept rallying, coming together and building and growing. Like we weren't the same at the end of the year that we were at the beginning of the year. Like that's a different team. And we learned and we we didn't let that the loss define us, the loss inspired us. And and so you have a team that great players and talented players,

1:27:39but then other just incredible heart and team and serving together and rallying and all of a sudden is just like it's a team win. You know, against in the national championship against one of the best offenses in coach full history and Oklahoma and San Bradford just won the Heisman and all of that. And though our defense played out of their mind. And you have, you know, major right destroying the receiver on the first play game. You have a mod black is one of my favorite players I ever played with because he's never believed in undersize wasn't as fast as others. He and he picks the Heisman trophy winner. You know, at the end of the game and that that's team, man. That's what that's team special team isn't when you you just show up and you wear the same jersey. Now that doesn't make you a team team is when you have the same vision and you're willing to suffer for that together for one another. That's a great team. And that's what I felt like we had together hope the book does tremendous. We were talking about it before you came in. And so I hope people check out I think it would be 134 special or so congratulations. That's really fantastic really rooting for that 131 for you there. You're such a magnetic guy. I really appreciate the time. My final question before

1:28:45we wrap is if you could just beat one team the rest of your life, what team would you beat? I'm obviously going to go to college because that's just the rival research. You can be one team the rest of your life and you get to beat them every time. What team do you beat? Because we were pretty good and they were so good. You know that one of them it comes to mind as Alabama. But because I'm I love the passionate tradition and the the history behind it, I couldn't do them out half the pick either either Georgia or I can't do either. I can't like you. It's hard. For me growing up, FSU was the disdain. My dad growing up before me it was Georgia. This is you. You get to beat one team? No, we're winning our state. It's FSU. We're winning our state. There you have it. Stay chatty. There you have it. Tallahassee. You heard it.

1:29:45Uh seriously, thank you for the time. Thank you. Yeah. And thank you for being willing to just talk about some hard things. I mean it so much. Thank you so much. And I so appreciate it. You do a great job on ESPN. You do a great job at talking about something that's very difficult to talk about but making people genuinely curious about it because I think there has to be a curiosity to even learn, right? Like for me, I'm so curious about what people can do. And so I appreciate you spending that time and just kind of getting into it with me when I didn't even know I'd ask questions about it. No, it's awesome. Thank you. Because I think a lot of people don't know how to ask questions about it. Yeah. We're afraid to ask questions about it. I think so too. Thanks for having patients with me. No, thank you. And I hope the book does wonderful. And there is the very cool Tim Tibo. Thank you. Thanks for listening to a Bobby Cast production. If your bookshelf and your four-year page are equally important to your personality, welcome home. Pro Society is a weekly podcast that's part book club, part group chat for anyone

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