BND's 9/11 25th Anniversary Memorial Podcast

0:00Welcome to Brighbart News, Daily What? A show today. Your phone calls were just spectacular. Your stories. The lessons. I don't even know. Totally overwhelmed. Great calls throughout. We don't know what to play here. We're just going to do our opening two seconds. And the calls were so great throughout. Can't pick one over the other. So Ty goes to the beginning of the show. Bye.

1:09No, he doesn't. He's hoping he wants to help me. I was broke, Jackman, in the 104th floor of the North Tower that was 30 minutes.

2:16After impact. America's the greatest country in the world. Good morning. Some people died instantly. Some people were on a hijacked airplane didn't know what was going to happen. Some were stuck above the impact like broke there. Some were doing everything they could to get out. Some were running in. There it's 25 years. There is there's video and audio that I've never seen before my entire life of 9-11 now. I thought, I just assumed I've seen it all. There's stuff I've never seen before. Phone calls I've never heard before. Like Kevin Cosgrove.

5:36Some people like Kevin there. He died not even knowing what happened. What's going on? I think in today of the people on the plane, who not necessarily knowing the intentions of the hijackers because there's been a lot of hijacked airplanes in like 70s and 80s or a lot of hijacked airplanes. They would fly to different places or whatever. It wasn't really sure the intention. No one thought this. Then you're on the, imagine the people on the plane and then you realize you're flying way too low and way too close to the city. But even then they can't cross your mind. Just the absolute torture of all that for so many people. Have you ever thought you were going to die? Have you ever been in that situation? Like an emergency situation when you think you're going to die. Health issue in the middle of a car crash. Maybe some plane turbulence. You know, plane turbulence.

6:44There's, I forget the number. There's something like six cases of plane turbulence every year that are so strong that people need to go to the hospital. And this extreme turbulence and it'll feel like three minutes and it's eight seconds of turbulence. It's all really is. But it feels like a long time. So if you ever felt like you were going to die. For a lot of these people at 9.11, I'm thinking of the time between. I'm thinking we're going to die to dying. Like, in some cases, it was a good 30 minutes. Some people didn't have any time at all. But some people were sitting for a long time thinking that I'm going to die before they actually did. And then there's some people who didn't think about it much at all because they decided to run into the building. And then they rescued people out. And

7:44then they ran back in. And they kept doing that until they couldn't do it anymore. Another thing I'm thinking about today is how when it was happening and as it was happening, knowing that any idea what was going on. There's two. We couldn't fathom it. Didn't. It looked back on it now. We're like, well, here were the four planes. We're hijacked. We know the story. But when it was happening, it wasn't. We know clue. I was homesick from school and we were watching the today show. And I remember watching this all with my dad and my dad's from New York. He said, ah, it's nobody deal from a small plane. But even if it's a plane, you know, a small plane flew into the Empire State Building a long time ago. And they cleaned it up. Nobody deal. And no one knows. It's like a little trivia question now. And my dad said, I'll get the fire department up there and they'll clean it up. And, you know, World Trade Center is huge. So we'll fix it up. No problem. This

8:51was NY one on on just before this all happened. This was a different world. The time capsule into a total of the different world day out until September 29. That's today in New York City history. This is a live picture from our camera on the Empire State Building looking toward the World Trade Center, a three alarm fire and a report of an explosion somewhere in the World Trade Center. You can see the plume of smoke from the top of one of the World Trade Center towers. And this has just come into us word of this incident at the World Trade Center. The fire department responding with a large number of crews to the World Trade Center. I don't have a lot more detail on this than that at the moment. But you can see obviously there's a lot of smoke there and at that height of the World Trade Center, obviously a very difficult fire to fight. We have someone in the area who's seen some of this happen. George Shea is on the telephone. George, tell me what your vantage point is

9:56and what do you know about this place? I'm on Westery right out of the Brooklyn Battery Tunnel and I was driving in and I heard an enormous explosion and I heard another enormous explosion and I had scared me. I looked out the window and an enormous tire would appear to be a tire smashed down on the street in front of me and I looked out and there was an enormous amount of debris and we're about two or three or four blocks down from the World Trade Center. If this is the northern building in the World Trade Center, it was an enormous amount of debris and I yelled to the guy in the car, let me out and I ran back. A gentleman next to me has been hit by debris and it appears to be about 20 stories from the top on the west side of the northern World Trade Building and it appears that an entire floor or two had been blown out and it was the scariest thing I've ever seen.

10:56So, George, what's your location now? We had no clue. It's a tire. There's some sort of explosion but we don't... I'm... we first started as a plane. I think everyone thought it was some sort of horrible accident. How could that have? We were so naive. I was... I don't know how many other people were. I thought, you know, how could a radar malfunction like this? Like on a clear day, didn't make any sense? And what are the chances of like a pilot and has a heart attack or something? And the planes on autopilot and it flies at all the places it can fly. What... how could this happen? Without jumping the too many conclusions, looking at the extent of this damage and knowing how well populated that building is at that time. Okay, so at this moment, they're having a live camera. This is NY1. They have a live camera and this is when the second plane hits and the... guys watching this footage, just watching the video and we see another explosion in the second tower. Huge, huge mass and it's not even in our brains. Oh, there's another explosion down

12:02of the left side on the second world trade center tower. You see that huge ball of fire that just went up there. I know it's quite a distance shot, but that looked to me to be happening at number two world trade center at the second world trade center tower and it is at some distance there, but this is now a dramatic development on the second world trade center tower and I can't imagine that there would not be a serious evacuation and a full mobilization now. They still didn't click. What's happening here? Towers are far enough apart that you would think they were independent. We have two of our people responding to the area saying... Yeah, so they're independent. Why if there was an accident at one, why is there an explosion in another? We still didn't know. That they saw another aircraft crash into the other tower of the world trade center. I don't know at this point whether that would be a plane that was in the area, whether it would be a news helicopter or a police helicopter or

13:06something like that, but that's the word work. That's the most logical conclusion. We're hearing about another plane. Is there a news helicopter? Like, how could there be a news helicopter? My goodness, what are the chances that a news helicopter would crash into the... This is New Jersey 101.5 FM. And the smoke and explosion drew my attention to it and just a massive amount of smoke. Smoke and everything coming off the tower and at first you couldn't tell where it was coming from and then you could see that just like they said about 20 stories up from the top, it was just unbelievable. There was a noise, but oh, there it is. Someone else just hit the tower. Oh my god, some of us are playing just hit the tower. It hit the other tower and it's a massive explosion. Jesus, Mary and Joseph. All right, unfortunately, I don't have a video of that. I can't confirm

14:13that we're back in the... We're back in the newsroom to check that out. Greg, you're in Atlantic Highlands. Can you confirm that there has been another incident there? I can't at the moment, but I do see a rather large plume that's secondary to the first one. That's a possibility there might have been a second explosion. I'm in Atlantic Highlands. I'm looking directly at it right now. There's a tremendous amount of smoke coming out of it moving to the east. We're trying to get... I'm sorry, bear with us here, everybody. This is live radio. Let's recap what we know here. And aircraft is cramped into the upper floors of one of the World Trade Center towers this morning. The black smoke continues to pour out of two holes in the side of that building. Now, there is activity that continues to go on in the air right now. Carmen in Jersey City, Carmen, you're on New Jersey 101.5. Go ahead. How are you doing today? Fine. Oh my god, another tank just hit it. Oh my god, this is terrible. I've experienced the first crash and then I can experience another one. This is really

15:18terrible. The way he came across and hit the second one. All right, that's two... that's two reports of that we have right now. I'm so... Ladies and gentlemen, I'm sorry that I'm a little reserved. I was hoping that I would have video in the studio here where I could actually see that. Joe, do you have anything new that you can add to this right now? Yes, our XCBS right now is reporting that in fact there were two different aircraft that struck the building. We don't... Of course, that's still officially unconfirmed, but CBS is reporting that there are two aircraft into the building. He's one to play all this just to speak to the confusion of the moment as it was all unfolding and then the collapse. Based came to the podium to call it a national tragedy and he ordered the four weeks before we... We're gonna switch back to the studio here for a second. One of the world trade center towers now has collapsed. One of the two world trade center towers has just fallen. There is nothing but smoke, nothing but debris. The tower with the radio antenna on it is still standing. Oh my goodness, it looks like somebody dropped a bomb on

16:18lower Manhattan. The entire section of lower Manhattan is obscured now by smoke from the Hudson River on northward. We can see nothing now of lower Manhattan other than the smoke from the tower. If you have seen the movie Independence Day as the smoke and destruction rolls through the concrete canyons of Manhattan, this is what we are looking at now. Just on a point of confusion and not knowing what's going on. Ron is in Texas. Hey, Ron. How are you? Sorry, I'm trying to get a degree all over again. I'll try to make this somewhat brief. So at the time that this all happened I was finishing a night shift. I'm a policeman. I was actually talking to a friend of mine in New York from Washington State where I lived.

17:18She tells me that, hey, a plane just hit the world trade center. I'm like, well, more on. Right? Because all the initial reports were an explosion and a small plane, like a private plane, it had the world trade center. So I get off from there and call my dad who was a near-marshal at the time. retired now and tell him, hey, this is a plane just hit the world trade center. Do you like? It's not an accident. He says that an airspace over Manhattan is so tightly controlled that nobody flies a plane into the world trade center by accident. And be sure enough, as we all know now, that was the case. He made a couple other comments about terrorism and the likely perpetrators of that terrorism, which also turned out to be correct.

18:20But it was a, yeah, I'm sorry, I'm kind of breaking up again. I'm reliving all this. Like, I think a lot of people are dead. That's why I want to take the time. It's like slow it down and play these clips and take us back and not rush. That's so here. So my point is your dad knew right away. There was no confusion. There was no, oh, well, it's hard attack. Yeah, he said, I mean, obviously we didn't know what side the plane was, but he was adamant that it's not an accident. And kind of it's going to get worse. Ron, thank you for calling. Let me go a little more through the storyline here and and phones are open today. My goodness, 86695 Patriot, 86695 Patriot. I would love to hear stories of your involvement with 911 from that distance of it, right? But they're still a connection to like the phone call we got the other day of truck driver who was in Oregon who dropped everything,

19:22picked up 20 generators, booked it across the country to go to New York City so that they could have the lights, the rescue operations could have the lights. Like any, any connection with their New York, wherever across the country. I'd love to hear your story. 86695 Patriot. Let me make this point and about, I've seen things this year that I've never seen before and I've learned things I've never even knew. Did you know the first firefighter who died? Do you know how the first firefighter died? His name was Daniel Sir, SUHR, 37 year old firefighter, giant football linebacker. He was entering the South Tower when someone who jumped from the tower landed on top of him. That's the first death of it and why the fire department, the firefighter and then

20:29like, what? So some of the firefighters there and they carried him away and they didn't enter the World Trade Center and they survived. We can all picture right now if we close our eyes, we're gonna have to but we can picture that one picture of the person who jumped of one of the jumpers. But I recently saw this close-up picture of people, like massive people who were leaning out the window. Sometimes their entire upper body was leaning out the window. I mean, you've been up on a tall building before you would never lean out the window to terrify just a Lena. So there's people leaning out the window of their upper bodies and then in some cases they're standing on the window ledge, like half their whole body hanging out over, contemplating what to do because their choices either I stand here and die because I can't breathe and that the heat is too much to bear or I jump. Jump, jump, we made it. Do you know how long it took

21:44to land? If you jump out of one of the top stories of the World Trade Center, first of all, you hit the ground at about 150 miles an hour, it took 10 seconds. You want to talk about the difference, the time between when you think you're going to die and when you do. This is the moment you decide to jump right now. Now, the pictures I've never seen so many bodies, so many human souls falling from the building and then to think of them for 10 seconds, thinking about what's happening. Here's something else I've

22:45never seen. I didn't know this, I guess firefighters have this thing called a pass, a personal alert safety system. So it's on their gear that when there's no sign of movement for 30 seconds, then this alarm turns on so that other firefighters can find them. This is video of the rubble. Okay. Each one of those alarms is a different firefighter.

23:47I've never heard that. Any time I've ever contemplated ground zero, what? I never thought of that sound. It's 6'6", not 5'8". I have a lot more to say, but I'd rather hear from you. Let's go to Chris, who's in New Jersey. Hey Chris, thanks for calling. Good morning Mike. You know, that day I was driving up the New Jersey Turnpike. And I was going to a meeting in New York with colleagues. We never made it in. What I will say to you, because I'm listening to this this morning, and it wants me to point out, I'm actually on the turnpike again. I was going pretty much to the same place I was going 45 years ago. I know that the good lawyers showed me a beautiful blue sky with the biggest, widest, offiest clouds I ever saw.

24:51I have not seen a sky like that since. And I believe that he showed me what heaven looked like because two hours later I saw what hell looked like. And today, we have people claiming that we deserve it. Tom Piker, people that are running for Congress, people that are in our government saying we deserve it. Now, I just hope that you do what you're doing. And people have their kids listening today. That's all I've got to say. Chris, thank you brother. Thanks for the call. That's so good. There's there was something special, something different about that sky. On September 11th, there was. And I can noticeably different even at Tuesday, it's 7.45 am.

25:53There's something that's the right word. I mean, the way you I can put it, but it was. It was like a size of heaven. That morning, something special blue, sharp, crisp about that sky. And then full of black smoke for weeks. Thanks for listening to Breibart News Daily. Here is when we started taking phone calls. It's Patrick. It's in Florida. Patrick. Thanks for calling. Hey, you're welcome sir. First time caller. So I'm not going to tell you that I was there when it fell.

26:54I was a volunteer requirement. And we actually are team, which was a fireman race team besides on Western New York. Just left Long Island, a bunch of our friends in South Bay in the. Islet. And I was at my job that morning. And I'm watching TV when someone had yelled at something hit the building. I. I was going to. At that point, I had to leave work and go to the station. And watching that, seeing our friends that we just left, some of them were in that building and. It was horrific. And I was completely angry. I wanted to join the armed forces and go fake and do whatever I need. And I was just going to. What was going on. And what I've seen.

27:55Unfortunately. Help or the city to help some of our battalion went down there for supplies and. And help with recovering some of the body or. Pieces of. And I unfortunately was head to stay back and there was a lot of anthrax alerts at the time. And I was just. And protecting them. But I just wanted to let you know that that you know anywhere in the world, no matter where we were and what we did. We'll never going to forget this. And it was. It was. It was a shock to the country. I just don't understand why people at this point. Be little in. Yeah. You. You're the second or third person so far who's mentioned the word anger, the emotion anger. Why is it make you angry? Because we were attacked on our soil. We were attacked.

28:55Our civilians innocent people. And T's and first responders had nothing to do with any political. Things that they were that they were angry about that they did this to us. Our people are. Our civilians. That's what made me angry. I mean, it's different when you join the army and you join the armed forces and you go to fight you. You know what you're getting into. And you know, you shoot. You got to go on you. You were expecting it's going to be pointed at you. But these were people going to work. These people protecting people. These were people bankers. These were. They attacked us. They attacked the people. Not. Not the military. Yes. That's what made me angry. I was. I was. Do you have any. Are you able to articulate in any way the mindset of a firefighter who. Grabbed their gear. And goes into the building. Actually, when when when it hit the building, I was I was talking to a bunch of my co workers about how we would actually fight fire.

29:59You know, we would go in. We would we would hook up the water. See, we would independent on that fire. You can take it to the ground, because one of these people. Those me. Are you signature training. And those people stays. The American Boat station. Right. And then send a hose, acknowledges Thank you, brother. It's, uh, wow, the party was really. That was really good to talk to you, Patrick. I felt inside of the sounds of weird. Let me just say, uh, felt like I was talking to one of the guys who did go, which is just you, just you, the who you are, the firefighter, like knowing that if

31:00you weren't in Buffalo or you said, Western, if you weren't in Western New York, if you were in the New York City area that you would have been one of those guys that you had regret that you weren't the guy who was called in or you weren't closer. There were a lot of use that day. Across the whole country too. And that's one thing it's so amazing about this too. And then I remember about it all is that how you're not even was for the whole country, whether you don't never been in New York, or but here we are today, 25 years later, 40% of the country wasn't alive when this happened, or it was too young to remember like three, four, five years old, 40% so in a few, if you remember 9, 11, if you remember, if you have a 9, 11 story, if you remember seeing it in a few years, you'll be in the minority. Think about that, you'll be in the minority of the country. If you remember September 11, because I was

32:04think it was, it was, you know, people never forget, right? And I was flipped it to now, you always remember, we're so very soon. If you remember, you're in the minority, 8695 Patriot, want to go to Srance, who's in Florida, my pronouncing your name right, sir. Srance. Srance. How are you, Srance? Srance, F with an F. Oh, no, excuse me, excuse me, France, tell me your story, France. So I, I was with the New York State Police, I was a trooper, and also I was with the Army National Guard, and we were actually in Fort Levin, we're training for a close-up omission with the National Guard when planes hit tower, and we immediately, we'll call back to New York, all the planes around it, so it was a long bus ride from Kansas to upstate New York. And so the governor decided if you were with

33:05the New York State Police, and also with the Army National Guard, or the National Guard, you would go down to support operations with the New York State Police. So I was down there for about three weeks in Manhattan, we're doing track to trailer and commercial vehicle inspections because we're expecting a follow-on attack, and I've had a bunch of friends, and actually I grew up in the suburbs of New York and Rockland County. So a lot of people in our area were New York City Police officers and firefighters. So we, I lost classmates during that time, but the amazing thing was the community during that time, they, I mean, everybody was trying to feed us, everybody was waving at us, honking horns, coming up and talking to us, and it's sad how in a few years, things have changed. Yeah. What did you think about going back to the scene, like what

34:07we're going to that scene, I should say. Oh, it was amazing. It was amazing. It was, it was, it was a lot of, it wasn't so much anger, it's just the sadness to watch somewhere that you used to, that just the changes you could smell. There was a smell that I can't even describe because, you know, the smoke and the ash and everything else, it was, it was, it was shocking, it was shocking. Because I've been to the World Trade Center, I've been an area who traveled that all the time and seated the, the station. And then to have the people I were actually working our father troopers and guards been working at ground, at the actual ground zero and listening to stories, it was, it was just the loss. It was like lost family members. Yes. Ron, see the man. Thank you, brother. Thanks for listening. I want to speak about the food. Remind me to do a food story

35:08later to your point, Frons, about how so many people helped in any way they could is one of my favorite things of the, the response. I want to get to that in a minute. First one to go to William, who's in North Carolina, William, thanks for calling in. Hey, good morning. How are you doing? Do you? Where were you when this happened? Yeah, so, so that morning is that's a funny story. I get to tell my students these days that I was actually in prison that morning. And I get the weird look, but the true story is I was a correctional officer down in South Carolina, when those events unfolded that morning and pretty much motivated me shortly thereafter to join the United States military and served my country, initially found up for tour of four years. And I end up retiring about five years ago now. And I continue to serve as a geratine instructor. That's awesome. Why did you feel the need to join the army after this happened? Like multiple callers this morning, I just, I just felt

36:10angry. I felt I had the capacity to do something about it. When I did join, I go to join up that morning, I'm in crew's office, something that definitely motivated me was the line of people coming in to join was out the door and down the road. And it just made me proud to be a part of some type of action that wanted to just help serve and protect our great nation. Why just stay in for 20 years? You did you, you did your four, you did your, you did your duty? Why stick around? I did the, obviously, the corrections field wasn't for me. I found that fit in the military a little bit more. I had a lot of good times, few bad times along the way and got the serving capacity to deploy to Iraq and Afghanistan. And lead and trained people became one of my greatest passions that I continue to this day as a high school geratine instructor.

37:12You're the best of us, brother. Appreciate you, Willie. Thank you, ma'am. Thank you. Steiner, we're too that about Pearl Harbor. And he told the same story said the line around was around the, around the building at the local, local recruitment area. And he said they told them a night, the guy came out and said, go home, we can't take you off the night. No one moved. And all the moms cooked food and brought blankets and everyone in the recruitment line slept there that night. No one moved. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Good Chris, who's in New Jersey. Chris, thanks for calling. Hey, Mike. Good morning. God bless you on this solemn day, my friend. Yes, sir. Where were you? I'm a proud, retired chief master sergeant in the United States Air Force after 38 years of service to this country. And

38:12on 9-11, I was stationed at McGuire Air Force Base, which is about 50 miles south and a little bit west of New York City. And our battle rhythm for the day is to launch some local training missions. I was assigned to a KC-10 unit, which are in flight refuelers. And they were flying their local training lines. They usually leave around 8 o'clock in the morning, four jets. And then they'll come down around noon time and then we'll put them back in the air right around 1 o'clock and they'll fly their local training lines. And on that day, my jet was one of two of the four in that morning formation, took off. And my jet was one of two that actually stayed in the air for 14 hours, which was what was supposed to be a four-hour training mission. And their job was to start refueling the fighters that were scrambling for combat air patrols over New York City and the Pentagon. My unit's got an interesting story because that was the beginning

39:14of, I guess the second to seven deployments for myself. My unit's been in the Persian Gulf since the first Persian Gulf War on a rotating basis. One of our, one of the pilots of my unit was Lee Roy Homer. And he was the co-pilot on the plane that hit the ground in Shanksville. And to say that it was sobering for our unit to be a part of the war. And it was a kind of a, it's kind of an understatement. And we were deeply affected. We had, we had New York City police and NYPD or FDNY members that were in the reserves in our unit. And they didn't want to be firefighters for the reserves. They wanted to work on airplanes. And those guys, as you know, were deeply impacted with the tremendous loss. One of my friends, I was a lieutenant, one of the fire houses up in New York City. And he, he was the guy that was writing letters and contacting the family that they're, that loved when it died in the towers. It was, it was pretty rough. Within seven days we were in

40:16the desert and we were fighting. And I just, you know, one of your callers has alluded to and you alluded to sir that, you know, 25 years on, we have a short memory. And I think it's by design. Our education system isn't teaching this stuff anymore. And I think there's a concerted effort to, to get us to forget. And as we see the rise of the Mendonis and these, these folks in our country, it's, it's a scary proposition. We got to, we got to remember this stuff. We got to remember it, sir. I'm grateful for your call. I just want to get this right. So you, when you woke up in the morning, the mission of the day was to have a training exercise. And then it turned into something very real. At what point did it turn into something real for you? Like, were you guys already in the air? Were you about to get in the planes? Or where were you? Yeah, Mike, I just launched the airplane and I went back into my squadron and we have, we kind of called it a ready room, but it's just kind of like a little room where we hang out and wait for the next, the next job to come up like they'll take us back out to the flight line to go pre-flight another jet that might be flying a route, what we

41:17call a, a real world mission. And, and as soon as I walked into the building, a bunch of my buddies were staring at the TV and I looked up and I saw smoke pouring out of the first tower. And, and I, you know, I asked the question, I came, what's going on here? And they were like, well, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, hit the World Trade Center. And I, and I knew just by looking at it, I wasn't a, a, man, you can see the width of the, the damage of the, of the, the, the tower number, I guess, whatever the, the first tower that got hit, I will tell you that, that after that, within a week, me and a couple of buddy, buddy's of mine actually drove up to ground zero. And we, we, we, we put our eyes on that rubble. And it, it gave me more determination to fight and to know what those people who died and the folks that were still up there digging people out went through. My, my water was a, I'm sorry. So I, I got to take a break. I want to play this clip though. I got about a minute. But let me play this for you. This is,

42:17uh, FAA Boston Control Center calling NORAD, telling them about, uh, one of the planes that was high jet. I just weapon certain fellow. Hi Boston Center team. You, we have a, a problem here. We have a hijack aircraft headed towards New York. And we need you guys to, we need someone to scramble some of 16s or something up there to help us out. This, is this real world or exercise? No, this is not an exercise. I'm going to cast. Okay. Hey, hold on one second. Okay. Yep. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Never heard that for the day. Whoa. Right. So what, what do you say? Exercise real world or exercise? You started the day exercise and ended the day real world. That is correct. And we were on the other end of those 16s putting gas on them so they could loiter over the area, uh, for the rest of the day. And I know you got to punch me off Mike, but God bless you brother. May uh, Christ continue to like your path. I listen to you every day.

43:17And, uh, and it's an honor to be called a brother in Christ with you, man. Amen. So keep fighting a good fight. Yes, sir, doing it together. Thank you, Chris. Thank you. And every way possible. I'm American made. I got American parts. I actually listened to bright partners daily. Three hours of incredible phone calls, incredible stories that I will never forget. If you subscribe to Series XM, you can listen to the whole thing. Obviously, uh, my podcast from Tuesday, I think it was Tuesday's episodes when we did a little 9-11, uh, pre tribute. And I'm going to try to put together some thoughts from today's episode and make another podcast to for this weekend. And then we still got to talk about United 93 on Monday show. Slater radio on Twitter and Instagram Slater at bright bar dot com is my email. And again, the podcast

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