Best of A Numbers Game | September 3, 2026

0:00The numbers told the story of the always down. Swindles idiots who believe in analytics. This is a numbers game with Gill I like Xander gone. V sent our number two but numbers game at V sent these sports betting network. V sent dot com game plus I hard radio YouTube TV. Of course, series X of channel one 58. No, it's not it. 189. See? I did it again. 189. Hope you've made the switch. The series if that's how you take well if you took us into series, you've already made the switch. Yeah, you have. But if you're listening through other means, the other ones that I just mentioned just know that if you think about going to series X, it's 189. We got that out of the way. Still come crack unscripted Bill Crackenberger and then Mike Reardon from right angle sports with the live college football release. Cleve TA standing by. I just want to read a few tweets here before Patrick Kelly says forget great. I just want to be decent. Congratulations. Justin talking about Justin Emory. Yeah. We highlighted earlier on the show. He says, when does tank of balluza come back? Who's curious? I guess that's a go. I think

1:00or the go or clippers things specifically. Skitzo 360. People always forget the wins, but remember the losses not me. I've tailed many a winning bet from Gil. Very much appreciated PS. I can't see your tennis plays on V-Syn. I am a pro subscriber. You know, I put those in later than normal last night. So I wonder if that's is but anyway, on the show here earlier, bonzy on the men's side Putin's have on the lady side. And the great Andrew Maxwell's all over. He's getting them up there now. Thank you, Andrew. Not there. Drew Maxwell, who I think the the nickname I'm workshopping is cornbread as a tribute to old Sedrick Maxwell. No, yeah, no, I like it. Okay. What was going on there? Nothing. Okay. Kenny. Okay. Kelly's Kelly's reacting to other things. And then I'm asking Kelly on air about his reactions. I shouldn't do that. Kenny Dillingham sexual. That is real name. Value on Sanchez. Haven't been following this market since Wheeler blanked the bed on me. LOL. I there is. Listen, there's not value on Sanchez. There really isn't. Mrs.

2:00allowed to have one bad outing. He's first and major league baseball and everything. What are we doing if he doesn't win the sion? Come on. Ladies and gentlemen, last time this man was on the phone and we love him. He's one of our favorite guests. But last time it was on there, we talked about his free. I want to say it again, free 2026 NFL preview guide. And then Kelly Bidley over here tried to make everything else he did free. You remember that? That's right. Yes, they do. It's cleave TA everybody courtesy of the progressive guest line. Cleve was happening. What's up guys? Yeah, Kelly's my marketing agent and I'm from a half the fire cost me too much money. I think, but no, I appreciate you guys having me on. It's looking forward to looking forward to the season. So trying to get all my accounts ready and all my fantasy drafts done and all my survivor stuff ready. So it's a great time of year. OK, so let's go through that a second. How many fantasy leagues are you in? How many million slash survivor entries are you going to do? Break it down for us.

3:00Yes, so I tried to reduce my fantasy leagues. I mean, I think I think four now is my limit. And it's really it's just as not doing money or anything else. It's pure camaraderie and it's the, you know, one time a year I get to get together with some old friends and that's the only reason to have that, you know, the those drafts to have that connection. So that's why I do that. I've got my got I've got some local survivor pools and I've got five five survivor circus survivors. I've got some, you know, some of the splash entries I haven't haven't submitted yet that I'm going to do the big one. I've got two circa millions, one that I split with a group of guys that have for a number of years and then one they're my own. So and then there's all sorts of other contests and pools that I'm not even thinking about right now. So there's a lot to a lot to remember. OK, with survivor you at cleavandalytics.com you have a survivor optimizer and you are, it feels to me like you've done three different waves of additions to this this summer.

4:00Can you sort of describe all the different things you can do on the cleavandalytics.com survivor optimizer? Yeah, and I keep adding stuff on just because things keep popping up and I have suggestions and I try to add as much as I can for people. But yeah, so you can go and the first thing you do is you select the pool type. So you can, obviously, our circus survivor, you've got the different splash sports ones and then you just have a standard, you know, your local 18 week pool. And if you've got double weeks, you can select, you know, which weeks are double weeks. So you kind of, you know, and the number of entries, right? Number of contestants. So you kind of format it to whatever pool that you're, you're looking to join. And then, you know, you go through, you know, you could just run the optimizer as is, but, you know, you know, give you a full season path as to best of options. But there are a bunch of different features like if you want to lock in specific teams to specific weeks, you can do that for any week. So like if you think that,

5:01I think the rams on Thanksgiving, maybe or, you know, whatever, you know, holiday weeks, for example, you just want to lock in, you know, for sure, you want to take that team or like Seattle plays Arizona, I think week nine, you know, that might be the largest spread of the season. Like you can go ahead and lock that those teams in and then run the optimizer that way. You can, you know, you can look at maybe week 18. We know week 18 is obviously a coin flip, whether it matters to teams, whether it be a taking team or a team that, you know, is really good. They're just going to sit all their starters. And so you don't want to burn, you don't want to save a team that you can use early in the year for something in week 18. That may not matter. So you can click on a button. This is keep week 18 open and run the optimizer, excluding week 18, which I think is a neat feature and can really change some of these paths that you see out there. And then the last thing that I really like and a lot of people are interested in, and it's the big secret sauce with any of these huge survivor pools, like Circa, is the, you know, projecting the public pick ownership

6:04for each of these teams. And so my algorithm, you know, projects the weekly public pick percentage, but if you want to go in and play around and give your own, you know, your own projections, you can do that and see how that affects the different options that pop up. So those are the things that I think are pretty interesting. You know, you can click on different teams in the matrix below that shows you like the entire season and the win probability by week and then where they rank within each week. So there's a bunch of different things we hear, I have on the site for you. That is super cool. So just to do it through the prism of Circa survivor, Circa Grande-Simo, you could, the thing is Thanksgiving. I mean, the games of the Thanksgiving quirk, they're so competitive. I don't know who you would lock in, but let's say you had a conviction, right? Let's just say you said, um, Rams over the Packers. I don't know, right? So you lock in the Rams there. You lock in your Christmas as well. Then let's say with the Chargers gauntlet schedule coming,

7:05you put the Chargers in, let's say week one. And then you could layer all that other stuff on top, basically cleave. So in other words, then you could do, then you could put all of it in the same sort of search. They're the part about the percentage of, you know, most likely for the other, they're the rest of the pool to be picking in those other weeks. Yeah, you can, yeah, you can even lock in like multiple, multiple teams, multiple weeks and then, you know, see how that affects the entire path, right? And you can say, all right, maybe, you know, maybe I don't like that team anymore on Thanksgiving. Let me try this team instead and just kind of, you do a lot of trial and error. And I think that's what this is about is seeing how one, well, one change can, can affect the entire path. So, you know, it gives you that option again, I have a matrix below to, for the entire season. So you can see like, all right, if I don't want this team on Thanksgiving, what are the other options you could sort it by, you know, current win probability too. So it gives you like an idea like, all right, now I want to go back and use this team instead. So again, it's, it's, it's a lot of work, but it's fun and it's, it's a puzzle that is impossible to solve very easily.

8:07But we do our best and that's really the idea here is, and you can save your entries too, by the way, so you don't have to keep coming in every time you can save up to 25, I have a 25 entries that you can save as well. So you don't have to always every week, you know, go and redo everything because you're going to select which teams have already used as you go along. But they'll be saved so you don't have to keep reselecting. So, and I'll add features. If you have any more suggestions like feel free to message me. I got buddies who are like, who love this stuff and like, Hey, why don't you try this and I'll keep adding as much as I can. But I think it's something that if you're in a small pool, like a local pool, I think you got a gigantic advantage with this. If you're in circa or like one of the larger pools, at least you're, like you're in the game, right? Like you're trying to be in a level playing field with some of the more sophisticated groups and syndicates that are using like real programs to map the stuff out. So at least it gives you a shot. But and just to be clear, the survivor optimizer was something that Kelly was trying to give away for free last time. But it is not free. How much is it for the survivor optimizer?

9:09So it's 99 bucks. You know, you just go on the website and subscribe. So I think for what you can get out of it, you know, it's pretty good value. And I also will, it's not just the optimizer. I do write up and I'll start starting in a few days kind of the different options and just the different considerations. Because I do think it's more than just pure numbers like the math. Well, there are math guys that only follow the win probability and the value. I also do think there are some nuances where you should understand maybe the potential injuries, like different things that can affect one team versus another different different considerations. So I'll have that qualitative aspect as well. So last thing on survivor, because I want to get to a week one thoughts and maybe some season long awards here, obviously a larger season long. Then what would the week one survivor, survivor optimizer pick B based on the least amount of specifics that you would put in?

10:13Yeah, it's good to take the chargers on the top pick. I think now we've got about mid 30% projection for the pool, which gives you, you know, pretty good value on the chargers. I know a lot of people are saying, hey, try to be a contrarian, try to, you know, a lot of people are going to be on them. But if you're in the mid 30s percentage, it's actually not that bad for a team that is substantially substantially higher from a win probability than a team like Jacksonville or, you know, or the Lions who you're going to want to save because there's so many options in the future. And I'm not a big Jags guy. You know, we could talk about that. But, you know, to me, the chargers might end up being a pretty valuable pick in week one because of that. But there are other options and it gives you a backup option, one backup option, two, for example, you know, if you want to go ahead and see how that works out as well. So, you know, you could pick at least three different options in a week one, you know, other than chargers and see what happens to the rest of your path. Do you really think only 30% percentish will be on the charges? I would have had a way higher than like 45 to 50% not 50, but 45% I would have had.

11:1830% is lower. So this is more art than science. Yeah. This is more art than science. It's really hard to know, but you know, I think if you look at any other public, and again, there are other really good sites that give you, you know, good projections. I think they're all in the mid 30s. So I think kind of mid 30th, the 37% is a fair number. You know, a lot of people will talk themselves out of it because again, it's just so much discussion about holding teams back. I think that you get a little bit more contrarianism than you should be. Hey, Long time. But you never know. Hey, Long Cleveland will finish that thought of it aside, but it's season long thought next. Yeah. A numbers game on FESSA, these sports betting network. Unmatched transparency with records updated daily. They're the sharp plays. They also include AI betting analysis, real time global betting information and alerts directly from the pros. It's getting the QR code on your screen for more sharp plays dot com.

12:21Cheap prop bets on Twitter. Do you guys think Jay Cone was blackballed or was told he was overqualified, but the reality is that he was blackballed? I don't know about that for new jobs. Yeah, I just kind of think that these people are dumb and they don't really recognize who he is. Yeah, I think it's that too. But interesting that he says that blackball, though, because I really didn't give that a thought. You know, Chris, they do some search. Chris of St. Marks, weekly, nifty reminder. No, he says get him on police also carbon versus carbon, Riviera versus Italian American go. Wow. We told my two different joints. I mean, you told him on one place that's literally half the price. If not 60% less Italian American, Italian American club and mom and pop food off strip, off strip. I and the atmosphere, I like a Italian American club. Carbone's the best gourmet. You know, that's, I wouldn't be going to carbon if it wasn't for Gill. You know, he likes the bougie carbon. And I'd rather be at the time I'm American.

13:21This guy, no, but then carbon, Riviera, which we've been too far less. Yes. They got a couple of things that are out of control. Yes. Yes. No, the price, I mean, even carbon, they try to sell you the steak. Then we have a good waiter. I try to sell you the steak. You know, Mr. Stake is no, for the table. No, because I got sucked in the first time with a different way to steak. Yeah. You guys, oh, we have this fabulous rib eye steak on a bone and rarely done that. 350. Oh, that's it. Yeah. Oh, three and one of those truth. I even told the guys, buddy, I go to steak houses all the time. This is just okay at best. Three 50. It was for the steak, but shout out to Troy. As all Troy's our waiter, he's, he's great. And one of my favorite meals in the whole city is that it's the pork chop with peppers. Yeah. That is one of my favorite meals in the whole entire city. That's about 65, 70 bucks, I guess. I don't know what it is. I went even further off menu the other night there, but Carbone Riviera. I look at my recommendation. If you ever get to Carbone Riviera, the pasta AOP with crab.

14:23Wow. That is my recommendation at Riviera. We love that place though. We love a Vetch. We love Mother Wolf. Mother Wolf is jam also. I went the other Monday. I went to Michael's. Michael's was fantastic. I forgot how good that place was over at the South Point. Literally. It's a special place if you want to take someone for anniversary or a big event. It's one of them also one of the most expensive restaurants. You have to have a comp. Let's just face it and Monday nights half price. If you have your points, I can't believe Michael's on that list. It's all the restaurants in South Point. If you have player points on your card from sports betting or the casino, Monday nights, wherever restaurant you go, it's 50% off using your points. So the meal for three of us was 450 bucks the other night. And it was only 225, using your points. So yeah, that's a great little perk. Bobby Getty's we're comparison here, but speaking of Pablo Torrey knowing about this guay situation way before punishments came down. Eminem had been saying, keep demurred two pock and biggie in his wraps for years.

15:26Eminem best rapper all the time, by the way, didn't didn't think I'd be comparing Eminem to Pablo Torrey today, only on a numbers game. Well done. Jared still genuinely get excited for the crack man intro music. Have a great long weekend, fellas. Patrick Kelly, I will exceed my tweet limit. Does Vecid have a page listing all terrestrial radio outlets? I know it's getting old school, but if I was traveling, I would support them. Do we have a page like that on the website at all? Anyone? No, no, no, no. Okay. I'm not sure if we do Patrick to be quite honest with you, but I will, I will look into that for you. Tony Hernandez. I love Thursdays who better than crack to tell it like it is. Good luck. This football season. Thank you, Tony. And Juan at number one, D. Jen, thank God it's a Thursday. Need my weekly dose of crack. Well, Bill Crackenberger is here at Bill Cracken with the K is his Twitter. Wise cracks is the name of the podcast. Randy McKay on this week. Oh, wow. What a, this is a special episode. If you guys want, you know, a plethora of advantage sports picks. Randy broke down every division, you know, in the NFL and did a great job.

16:32Some of them real long shots. Like I was surprised to him to say that, you know, I was going by bad MGM reading down each one because they have a first, second, third, fourth, you can bet each, each on each team. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, but not even his acting, you could better by himself solo. You could bet literally like Arizona to come in fourth in that division, which they should. You have to lay 20 to one on the no. And Randy's like, well, I'll tell you right now, I like them at coming in third at eight to one. So that's just, but you know, it's hard to bet in these one way markets, but sometimes you may find a gem or two. And like Randy picked Minnesota to win the division. And that was their, they're the longest shot. They're picked fourth. They were five and a half to one. And he picked them. He's very popular pick from the experts this off season. Really? Yeah. Yeah. Well, they haven't got the money the last couple of you. Well, remember they started out a couple of years ago. Like someone will tell seven and only eight. No, they really started out great. That was two years ago. Yeah. But last year did not, they quarterback situation there. So also I put one up on my Twitter today.

17:34One, I forgot the one he picked on the Twitter, but he picked one on Twitter that he liked. I think it was Denver, picked Denver, but he went over every single one. Plus he, he's a kind of a specialist in the FCS. Yes, he is. So he's given us some great college hockey over the years and some. That's right. Yeah. That's that. And these games that are on Saturday still are not lined here and most of the sports books. That's why we can't give it out yet. Seasers has it. Yeah. And then well, watch the show you can he gave it out along your own your podcast. He gave out like four of them. Okay. Because Caesar's Draft Kings Fandall, Bet Rivers and some of those places have it. Oh, they do have it. Yes, they all have them. All right. And that's, let me tell you, when you give out something, that's most of the country has one of the new sports books that are, I say new that's been seven years, your eight years. So it's just, it's not good for Vegas unless you have seizures. But so you did give some of them out on the show. I tweeted it out one thing there and the link is on my Twitter and Randy did a great

18:35job. He'll be with us via the computer though via via, I guess the streamer, the use. So he'll be on throughout the year, but Randy comes back into town every once in a while and he was here to see Billy Idol last night. And he had the extra ticket and I turned him down. Oh, he goes to Billy Idol last night. He sent me some videos of it. Wow. There's so many songs by Billy Idol. You know, I think I Billy Idol. Yeah, he's got a song or two. I thought it was okay. He kept on sending so many videos like five songs. Of course, I knew him all, but they're great songs. I guess Billy Idol was that big in the 80s. Was it the 80s? Is that right? He was the 80s. Yeah. Yeah. And it was like the Rand, the Rand, go to the Rand, the Rand show and you think you know four or five songs and I knew all 13. So that was so Randy was here in town. We did a show yesterday over at the Fesanide did a show at Dom DeMarco's yesterday with Jim Fice. We did a show yesterday. And that's also on the internet, which was Fesanide gave out some great information

19:40there. Talking about all different things throughout for the season. It's about a 45 minute show. So that's another show we did yesterday. Fist always says to me, how's producer number nine so much more than a producer? He always says that's a nice man. Jim, yeah, just getting over stage four cancer somehow. Wow. Man. He's a health guy and he goes to Cleveland Clinic. I mean, he just really, really fortunate for him. Ricardo asking, is crack doing the Fox kickoff show this season again? To be honest, well, I do my Fox Sports. Radio show on Saturdays on Sundays. So that's what I do on Sundays. OK. Six to nine. It's going to be seven to 10 though starting week one NFL East. Let's let's use East Coast time. You know, I noticed that after being in this media space, I always use my time. That's not the way you're supposed to tell things. You're supposed to tell someone a time Eastern standard time. So 10 to 1 PM Eastern standard time is going to be.

20:42I thought it was over to be honest with you. I thought it was the greatest run ever, you know, four years of Fox Sports Nationwide Radio. 500 networks. Lucky is can be. How could a street kid? You know, these guys are all college educated football players. And I'm just barely graduated 12th grade. I'm on there talking. I thought it was all over and sure enough last minute, a new sponsor came in and took over the show because I wasn't I want my Sundays back to my Sunday morning. When you thought you were out, I thought I was out and I was actually happy. I find it was a great run. Let me get back my Sundays. A new sponsor came in for, you know, the rate I was getting. So I'm happy with that. Unfortunately, the sponsor is illegal in one state in the nation. You happen to know where it is. Nevada. Yeah. You're all just our guest. I know I say that too much, but we're geofenced away from seeing there. I even went on draft Kings. I told you, well, on draft Kings, I can't get their lines anymore. I just wanted to see if they can't even get real. Yeah, you can't even get their lines. You can't even get their lines here. I'm like, Oh, God. You can on you can on your laptop. You just the mobile you can't.

21:42Oh, is that what it is? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Okay. So, so about laptop. All right. That's good to know. Yeah. This is, I never really heard underdog underdog 49 states. You can get the lines. You can't get the lines here. Even their fantasy, the different kind of contest can't get. So it's tough on a Sunday morning. Now, last week was the first week of the, I have to have my cohost send me what they're going to talk about because I can't see the lines. Now listen, I know these, of course, I got a text to one said, you could just use a VPN. Listen, I don't want to use a VPN and someone saying, Oh, you're used to VPN. You said the hardest thing. You know, I don't, I know the people do that with the draft Kings and Fandals and stuff. They use these different, not even the VPN. You can control someone else's computer in New Jersey or something with you. I am not doing, I'm not doing that. That's a bridge too far for me. I'm not doing that stuff. Yeah. And God bless you. We're hoping you guys can tell them, but I'm not taking part in that. You can go, you can strap that going to the third round. Looking good so far. More with the crack, but I've got a bunch of questions, including more restaurant questions

22:43for crack. Multiple, all the other sides, Bill Crackenberger unscripted. It's a numbers game at Vsyn. Vsports betting over. Back on a numbers game live from Circa Resorts, Casino, downtown Las Vegas, Derek Stevens, Shangrill on the desert. It's Gill Alexander, Kelly Bidlin. We get tweets being in the book. Buddhist man, he just said, good Lord. We've made a mess of the tennis picks on the picks page. It's a too many cooks in the kitchen situation. Everybody's trying to get some things fixed and yeah, it starts with me putting them in later. I think that caused havoc. But one of the highlights of the tennis picks page right now is that apparently I have both, I have both Putin, seven, N-Jangshin went in this one match where they play each other and they're both huge plus money. So that's awesome.

23:45Again, the picks are bonzy on the men's side. Yeah. Putin, seven on the lady side. I keep repeating them here. That's right. And like you say, best listeners in the game, right? I can't believe how many tweets, how many emails I'm getting over this. It's so great. Bill, ladies, lose it is my downstairs trying to help us figure it out. It's just, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, and I got a shout out for the next show, promo for, uh, prop points coming up next. Adam Schefter joining John Hansen. So, that's a good one. He's one coming up here in just a couple hours. Shefty. As the, as the cool kids go. That's right. Kelly said the tweet earlier was about the Justin Emory. It was about Justin Emory, uh, doing excellent numbers and logic to go from good to great and that I just want to get to miss. So please give me some more of those, uh, fantastic, uh, fantastic, fantastic betting strategies from him. One being I believe the brain dead tankable loser. Okay. That's he was explaining his previous tweet. Uh, yeah. Uh, yeah, yeah. Got it now. Love it. Love it. Go check that out at Vison.com. Great article by Justin Emory. Um, yeah, my, might be on my list of, uh, next to book on the show.

24:46It's, it's public tours. And then it's, uh, Justin Emory. Let's get Pablo on. Let's get Justin on. Yeah, wait. And on that text message from Pablo. Yeah. Oh, all text them. Jim Campbell as a subscriber, I love the betting guides. Do either of you know if there will be one for the NHL this season? Do we do an NHL betting guide unlikely? That's what I'm going to say. Actually, no, that's not true. We did last year. Yeah. Did you job the Davis to last? I think we did. Never mind. Tell us into me. Yeah. Who am I asking? I think it was just on the site, right? I think we put it on the site. Hmm. Now you're asking me too many questions. Hey, Gills play for Jag today is the raw prize or listen to the wrong one. OK, can this be clarified? OK. He goes, of course, it was a bad day yesterday. But you know sports. Yeah, it was rules for society. Hey, Jens, are we sure that corruption doesn't infiltrate everything we do on a day-to-day basis from the planes we board? So the fuel we purchased to the sports we love, it seems like it permeates everything these days pretty depressing. Yeah, it is. Yeah. Probably true. Mark Meltzer highlighting Joe Pita's, uh, Joe Pita's appearance doing prediction market on the one of one earlier this week covering the basics for that a better would want to know.

25:48So he's highlighting that. Thank you, Meltzer. Joe is great and Vegas vice whoever's posting the tennis picks, the subscribers must have had a rough evening. He's pointing out I have both both Putin seven and Zhang that blusty 35 Patrick Kelly also adds floor higher ceiling lower sounds like safe escalator riding guidance as well. Oh, yeah. OK, ladies and gentlemen, he is here to release a college football play. But I want to have a broader discussion about college football before that beforehand. This Mike Reardon from right angle sports, kind enough to join us on this Thursday. Mike, good morning to you, sir. Good morning. Thanks for having us on after our last week's FSU release. Yes, which didn't go well, which brings up a broader question. It's only one play, but we'd bring up a broader question, which is because I had Todd wish never on earlier this week. We had Todd wish never on it. And we got in this whole, you know, Todd's very big on. He's an in-game guy versus a pre-flop guy to begin with. But he pointed out and I agree with him, which is, you know, what are we really, we say this going into the NFL season? What do we really know? College football more than anything these days, right, with all that goes on in the world

26:51of transfer portals is probably harder to wrap your arms around than anything now. And then you see the power rankings and it's hard not to let the, you know, the average person, it's hard not to let that seep into your brain as some kind of truth. Do you find that it is a harder world to deal with now in college football, specifically through the lens of power ranking? Well, absolutely. It's never been harder to rate a team for the upcoming season. You know, the way it used to work, I've been doing this for about 20 years and, you know, I've had mentor, my mentor has been at Golden for obviously the whole time. And I've, you know, spent a lot of time reading the work of Dr. Bob. I used to, the great Dave Mollinsky. I used to spend time reading his stuff, watching his stuff. Even Alan Boston, crazy Alan Boston loved, you know, love watching his stuff. And anyway, the, the old model used to be, let's look at last year's rating. That was kind of our anchor, whether it was the program rating or just the general rating for the team last year. And then you adjust like how many starters are back, whether the returners look like how

27:52many guys that they lose to the NFL. And it was always don't move too far. Let's not overreact and then just make subtle adjustments, you know, a few points up, few points down. And you know, that kind of changed in 2024. As soon as we had unlimited transfers, you know, it used to be you had to sit out a year. Once you could transfer pretty much every year. And once you could start getting paid and go wherever they were going to give you the most money, that just absolutely changed everything immediately. Basketball used to be the sport you could win immediately at. Like if you, you know, John Calipari 10 years ago, if you dropped him into any school, he's going to get two or three great players and it's basketball. So that's good enough. You know, he'd be a top 10 team immediately. Football, it was always, it takes time. You know, Frank Beamer, I grew up in Harrisonburg, Virginia. My parents taught accounting at James Madison. Frank Beamer was always the story of like give the coach time. He was six years in and he was 24 and 40. He went two and eight in his six year and everyone wanted him fire. The president wanted him fire.

28:52Some reason the 80s stuck with them and, you know, they ended up going to 23 straight bulls. So that was always the stick with it. You know, Phil Stillo was talks about third year. The coach has his guys. He's developed them. They, you know, wherever you're redshirted, you've been in the weight room. That was how you built a program in football. It took time. Now once, you know, what the signety did from James Madison to Indiana, he brought about 20 players over to kind of be the core of his first team there and they obviously made the playoffs, which is incredible. Indiana, I think they were the first team to lose 700 games in power four. So you could say they were the worst power for team ever. He took them to the playoffs and obviously won a national title last year. You know, he's, he's done amazing things and pretty much what signety has done has sped up the timeline for all fans and athletic directors. And so what he kind of started and I'm not saying my partner Jeff coined this term. I'm sure someone else has said it many times, but he calls it the lift and shift. And so what's going on now is you see this with goalish at Auburn. He took a lot, most of his, a lot of his offense from USF to Auburn.

29:55And then what you see at Oklahoma State, you know, Morris from North Texas there. They took a bunch of the offense and messa maker, some receivers. And in that case, Oklahoma State, we've got them about 15 points better power rating wise than last year, which is insane. He brought about 88 transfers in and North Texas. They're down 13 points, obviously, because they lost a lot. So anyway, what it comes down to is last year's rating is probably never been more irrelevant. But sometimes you want to look at the last year team of another team to check the rating of your this year team. All right, Mike, the time we've all been waiting for. Let's put up the procedure. Once again, for those who forgot how this works, the right angle sports release procedure, which Steve Fesik always loves to do with any of his picks. What do you know? He stole it from them. Mike is going to give us a game in college football. You're going to add the bet to your bet slip before you bet it, though. Right. We'll give you 30 seconds to find the bet.

30:56You can put it in your bet slip. 30 seconds. We'll just hem and haul for 30 seconds. And then Mike will say go or cancel it. He says go bet it immediately. If he says cancel, it is not a bet. You'll remove it from your bet slip. We'll start the whole process over again. Like process or process process. How process me to I don't know why I said process right. This is England. All right, Mike. Um, you're on it. You're on it. You're on it. What do we got? Yeah. So the first bet that we will put in our bet slip for a possible bet is 177 North Texas Indiana over 55 and a half. 177 is the rotation number old school North Texas Indiana. Well, if you know this Kelly, they're defending champs over over 55 and a half. Now, you're not going to bet it yet. You're putting in your bet slip. Um, I just want to say as we're stalling here for people to put in their bet slip, three Fernando Mendoza can have another big year. Are we just going to act? Not there he's not.

31:57Um, we're going to act like Mike Reardon's chair is not like a star trek. Um, he's got a sweet game or a chair. Man, it's better for the back. William Shatner. It's beautiful. Yeah. Absolutely. It is definitely better for the back. I used to sit in these theater seats and all the sudden my back was shot. We've, we've improved the seat. Maybe it's not great for TV, but that's what we're doing right now, Gil. Okay. It's great. It's a great office chair. I like the other ones though with the Reardon group on there. That stuck out to me too. Okay. I think we've given everybody enough time again in your bet slip now. 77 North Texas Indiana over 55. Mike, what's the deal? Yeah. What do we do? 177 North Texas Indiana over 55 is a go bet North Texas Indiana over 55 and a half. Go. Everybody go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Can migration be Changes and ceramics, significant information about you,

32:58but just a good deal about we have to go back a good deal about there a lot. in the second half, which just shows you in these overmatched situations. You know, Signetti keeps his starters in and absolutely puts the hits the gas. He's absolutely willing to kind of run it up. And he just likes to keep, you know, excellence going at all times. Yeah, Signetti, four straight J.M. U. quarterbacks who have conference player of the year. He's got Hoover this year in St. Arm talent. So I think they're gonna, he's gonna fix the turnover problem. North Texas has got some injuries at the cornerback position. Jenkins, Johnson out for the year. Canada, been the best cornerback in camp worth keeping an eye on his status for this week. And then anything you might. UNT does as a bonus. I appreciate it. Thank you.

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35:02Kid does it. So not a full guide. It's on the site. That's right. Yeah. We're doing the same things last year. OK, got it. OK, the Mike Reardon right angle sports release went from 55 and a half to 56 and a half and then to 57. Do I have a 57 and a half yet on my board? Let's see. Hang in tough at 57. Hang in tough at 57. Yeah. Now, Christian Will hide on Twitter says the draft King's line moved to 56 and a half before Mike said go. Laughing emoji. Now what's the reason for that is because people don't believe that we're going to do a cancel. And one of the tells there is that we were too close to the end of the segment. So I think some people were like, oh, they're not doing a cancel. And so they jumped the gun. Oh, this is like my favorite. So we got to do the releases earlier in the second. That's good call. It's a good call. That's a good call because going. I do there wasn't going to be a cancel. So yeah, it's a good call. The it's kind of like when you watch this was always my favorite. You know, you know, I used to be a big poker player. Poker on TV always like drove me nuts, though, because you're like, all right, it's final table.

36:03We're down to the final two. Yeah. It's 9.58 p.m. That's right. Next show starts at 10 o'clock. Uh oh, this guy's going all in. What do you think? What are you think's going to happen? That's like the, uh, I was, I think I bring this up once every few years when, uh, Jerry Jones and Jimmy Johnson were feuding at the height of the Cowboys dynasty. And there was this, oh my God, there's a press conference. Is he going to be fired or is he going to stay? What's going to happen? What's going to happen? And Jimmy Johnson comes out in a suit. And I'm like, he's gone. It's like a tell on everything. He's not wearing a suit if he's still a Cowboys coach. Fred Leonard's on Twitter. Random question, but you have any idea how a proxy service would handle a customer that rebies into circus survivor after having lost on the Seattle Rams games next week. Thanks. I don't think there's any strangeness to that. You would just go to the same proxy and give him another $1,000. I don't know what the exact question is that he's asking.

37:03Do you mean because it would require? I think that you've already signed up. Yes. And you've gone through that process. Yeah, what process at that time? You've gone through that process. So you're wondering, could they just add it to your old? You have to sign up and say, I think what would happen is you would have to sign up again, going through the whole process again, but maybe using a different username for your newer entries. Oh, man. Okay. So I was checking over the rules yesterday just to confirm, like the deadline because I haven't signed up yet. I don't know if you know. There were a lot of details in there about it. So I really encourage you to go read the house rules for the contest that's in place. That is an interesting question though. I had not thought about it that way. I would, it is, but people have done this. It's not like you can't do it. So it's just a question. Right. No, totally. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's a good question. Just one that going like there's no riddle involved. Yeah. Yeah. That's my guess, but Fred, I would, I would ask the authorities.

38:04Yeah. You definitely don't want to be planning that way, right? And then lay all 10 on those Ramsey Hawks or something, you know, one of those early games that not have a chance to rebuy if that was about your plan was. Yeah. All right. Let's recap the bets on today's show because crack is coming up at the top of the hour. Obviously, the two tennis plays today. If you're, if you're looking at visa.com slash picks, it's completely obvious. The picks are on the men's side. It's Benjamin Bonzi. Zach is on Benjamin Bonzi as well. He told us. I didn't know that plus one twenty three versus Ignacio Boussé. And then on the lady side, big dog, Yulia Putin, Seva plus two thirty five versus Jang Shinwen. I said, hi to Yulia Putin, Seva at Indian Wells. He was just chilling in the lobby. I remember that. Nobody knew who she was. She's 20th ranked player in the world. Gilded though. I'm like, hello, Miss Putin, Seva. She was like, oh my god, somebody recognized me. Do you go up with one of those comically big tennis balls? Like, go ahead, get your autograph. No, I just kept it moving because it's Yulia Putin, Seva with somebody else. I might have, I know, I'm tight. Also Red Sox, Oh and two to start the month of September.

39:04That's not good. 28 to one, but the blue jays with an 11 and nothing win yesterday behind Dylan Seas. Really it was that they, they just botched a base is loaded situation in the second. What was like a sixth to nothing game should have been a one to nothing game. Blue jays go on to crush the guardians 11 and nothing. So that's good for our plus twenty three, twenty five. Most wins in September. And then of course Caleb Williams passing yards, leader 20 to one, Nick Bonito defensive player, the year 14 to one, sir. NFL week one bets for me, Jags Jets six point teaser, Jags Texans six point teaser, Bucks, Bangles under 51 and a half Broncos plus three. Okay. I should also mention on the tennis. We have Carlitos to win the men's side at plus 175. He's down to plus 135. We have Ega to win the lady side at seven to one. She's up a set here in round two already this morning. What do I leave out? Daniel Medvedev to win Q three on the men's side at seven to one. He's in pretty good Amanda Nisimova to win her quarter on the lady side four to one.

40:05The one with one future we did lose was Cragicava long shot to win her quarter at 14 to one Zach with his tennis plays in addition to being on Bonzi with me. He's on a few dogs beyond that on the men's side. Alexei popper in plus 126 versus Alejandro Tabilo. Jan Leonard Struff versus Francisco Cerundolo, the good brother Cerundolo. Yes, the good Cerundolo and Dallabor Serchina plus 128 versus Lutziano Dardary. Okay, there's got to be something wrong with our system or something. So yes, these are Zach's plays because Zach is also just texted me informing me that the Dardary play has showed up on the site at plus money as well. So be careful. He's on. Oh, he's a. So Verchina is that what you just said? Serchina. Yeah, Serchina. Mm-hmm. He's on Serchina, not Dardary. Serchina, not Dardary. This is a mess. It's a mess this morning. John Balducci, right angle chest coat. If you're listening to Serious, you're about 30 seconds ahead of streaming services. Oh, that's what could be at play. Jason starts at the same thing.

41:05Hey, don't think it was a problem when released. I think it was it was the listening medium. I'm on Serious and I got the number fine. He's peg on Delay of watching on the app. So then we have a serious person saying no, Serious XM189 is actually good. The app is the one that's behind. Well, you know, we're just going to have all these potty mouths come on this show. And this is why we got to put these delays in delays and delays and delays. Have I mentioned y'all the best listeners ever? Any format of radio ever? Mako, Shades and Mako. Good way to punish the early goers would be to go. Hold on, move. Would be go Oppo on the play like the like prepping over then tell people to go under. Oh, and so instead of a cancel, just go Oppo. Oppo. I think Vesik does that as a joke when he does his as well. And then John, you another factor in writing a sports lines movie before the plays are heard on the broadcasts. That different methods of listening. Yes, to our watching Vesik and have different time lags. Well, we can do our part and do a merler in the second. Let's put it that way. Yeah. Okay.

42:06It's week two for us. He's beginning of the season, right? That's week one. It's not even week two. That's right. It's week one. That's right. Because we still calls things week zero. Yes, so there is some reason. Zach also with his college football plays Miami Stanford tomorrow night in Palo Alto over 47 and a half two lane plus nine and a half versus Duke. And then in one of the bigger marquee matchups a week one LSU minus 10 versus Clemson. Zach bringing it strong this morning. And then of course, the right angle sports play. Let's not forget what we're talking about north Texas, Indiana was over 55 and a half. But once again, that's already up to 57. I probably should have asked the question also not being in mid season form. Cut off. What should you play this until it's a good call. But right now it is hangin tough as as new kids on the block used to say hangin tough at 57. Hey, if you were interested in the Indiana side, that number, that wasn't really moved. And they, you know, laying 40 points a little bit better at a total 57.55. What week one bets is over week one?

43:06You've only made the two totals play so far. NFL. Yeah. NFL part me. College football. I'm in on this, by the way. I am in on this. I'm going to have got one other circle. Got one other circle, but we're having dinner with this gentleman tonight. I need to confirm it before I. Oh, right. Randy McKay. The old Randy McKay. Randy McKay, who barged into the studio. You know, a lot of barge into the studio, by the way, only Randy McKays allowed to do it. But he barged in and Randy McKay was like, Hey, here's a pick, but don't say anything. Exactly. So, so that will confirm that tonight. And then we'll talk about it. Yeah, so we want NFL. Yeah, I've got the two teasers, two teasers in one total one side. So, Jags with the Jets, Jags with the Texans. And guess what? If the Texans end up being favorites in that game, close, I think they close favorites. I'm going to be teasing up the bill side too and hope from open the middle that. Bucks, bang goes under 51 and a half is the total I've bet. And then Broncos plus three at minus 120 against the Chiefs Monday night, which I really like that.

44:06I necessarily care about being on the same side of something as some people in whatever sport you're handicapping. One of the guys though that I really like love if I'm on the same side of his cleave. And so I was, I was happy to hear the first of all, my Caleb Williams top passing yards. He like a few days ago was like, I wouldn't hate that play at all like randomly. Was that he didn't even know about that. And then this morning our opinions on Tyler Schuck sort of jibing. I was like, thank God it's not just me. He randomly hated on the Jags 2 on Twitter right after I did brought up these. And then he said it on there. He said randomly. I don't know if that was random or not. He might not like my Jaguar so the week was late. Bill Crackenberger unscripted next. It's a numbers game. Advice of the sports betting network.