Best Of A Numbers Game | January 15, 2026

0:00This is Vincent, the sports betting network. The numbers told the story. Those idiots will believe in analytics. This is a numbers game with Gill. Alexander gone. Good Thursday morning, too. Is a numbers game. It's the sports betting network visa.com game. Plus I hard radio YouTube TV. And of course, Series X of Channel 158. Gill, Alexander Kelly Middleton in a hissy. Good morning. Hey, you don't sound very excited this morning. Okay. I'm the very excited little step off today. Yeah. It's scary off. I don't know your step behind right there on the take on the show today. Zack and crack. You know, that goes Bill Crackenberger, a little later on unscripted with crack man. Bill Crackenberger, who as Will Hill said last week, was throwing 102 on the corners. He was just on fire last week. We'll see if he can match that performance again, again, later today on the show. I don't remember what we were talking about.

1:00Oh, yes, I do. Yes, strip club stuff. Yes. That's correct. That's what I do. Two dudes don't drink and go into strip clubs. Not understanding strip club. That was your review. Not understanding strip clubs. Was that your take on it? No, no, no. That's what I said. Yeah. Oh, I about to just said. Zack Cohen on the NFL and NBA, and the host of hardwood handicapers. How often do you get on hardwood handicapers? One week. It will be on there tomorrow with Zachary. How was long shots yesterday? It was great. Yeah. It's great. First one's up now. Yeah, tournament doesn't tee off. It's another two and a half hours. So yeah, go check it out. Yes. We forgot to sign up for the splash sports one and done. Don't worry. I did all of that organizing yesterday. It was like, let me get it all my contest and everything. And it was like at the end, like, okay. Now, who am I going to play? Yeah. There's that. The reason we'll become a pair of why I forgot. A moment, Charlie, Mike Sommage going to join us later. Co-host of Ready, set, bet, talk NFL. And I know this is hockey picks. Man always has some hockey picks. Love this is hockey. Loves is hockey. Hockey here. Hockey there. Hockey everywhere with Sommage. He'll Sommal bomb us a little later on the show.

2:00And Tim Murray to talk natty with us and beyond. Maybe he's got some NFL thoughts as well. So we will get into all that. I am in the reason I forgot to enter his, because I was in full Australian open draw mode. Doing numbers on the men's side of the women's side, which we'll get to more materially, because I have some thoughts. We're doing the podcast later today. Me Drew Dinsick and Zach Cohen. It is. How can I describe it if you're new to listening to this show? What's the old Dion Sanders thing when he played both football and baseball? There's a sign. And he said this perfectly reflects my career, which is baseball is my brain. Football is my brain on crack. Well, tennis is my brain. Football is my brain on crack when it comes to handicamp. So I just, it's the most awesome thing in the world. And before we get to that, can we just, you have any reaction to John Harbor on the Giants real quick? One of the better jobs. I mean, me and you did the whole exercise. What was it last week of, you know, if you had to, which job would you be most attracted to?

3:01And I think we kind of settled on it. It was Giants or Falcons, right? Falcons. Falcons, if you like the better roster, if you wanted to focus on a better younger quarterback, probably go with the Giants. So I don't think, I don't think I'm surprised by the choice. It felt quick. I don't know what that means. He sure didn't want to take any time off, did he? Right. Yeah. Like, I don't know what that means, but like, it just felt quick. Yeah. Well, my reaction is, you know, a lot of people, oh, this is so great. And the Giants are so excited. And all this, why am I not as, why am I not as, like, moved as other people are? In the end, he's a CEO type of head coach, right? Yeah. He was a special team, coordinator that he became a head coach of Baltimore Ravens. And in all his years in Baltimore, and he was, and he's, listen, they had a great, there's objectively, they had a great run. But great is, is tempered by the fact that they, you know, they won one Super Bowl with John Harbour as the coach. Am I, am I not mistaken about that? Yep. They're right. And so, Brian Billick won the one in 2000.

4:03So yeah, one with John Harbour on 2012, the Harbour Bowl, if you will, against his brother Jim, when the Ravens beat the, when the Ravens beat the Niners. But, just look at the course of that career, he couldn't, he didn't manage to win one, right, with prime Lamar. Yes. Lamar Jackson, who, say what you will, two time MVP, and the third year where he should have won it, he rewrote the record books. He also had maybe the greatest kicker of all time, and Justin Tucker, and it had style defenses the whole way through, and could not, could not win a Super Bowl. And again, it's, I just want to temper the, the excitement of, of all, because this is not an X's and O's guy, like a Ben Johnson, right? Yeah. Who comes in with a specific skill set that translates to the field. So, when you're a CEO coach, a lot has to coalesce for that to work. So I'm just saying, I don't know, with the giants, will Jackson Dark become Lamar Jackson? Will, will they have the players on defense? Well,

5:03they got to do have a talented defense, but will it coalesce in the same way that it in Baltimore as a competitor to even contend? I don't know. I'm not as excited about it as other people are. I think the conversations become interesting. And yet, you're not one of the people I've heard go in hard on that, but like, you just brought it up right now of the, hey, you don't really specialize offense defense. Man, I've heard some arguments, though, where I think we're gone too overboard with that, where it's like, I don't have a problem with a CEO head coach, but everything's got to work well, right? I don't either, but it's more abstract. It is, it is. It's almost, I mean, in theory, the idea of it better, right? A specialist on offense and defense and someone overseeing everything. But, man, I think this whole John Harbaugh on, you know, out there in the market has really driven that conversation more than I've heard about, heard it in years. Like, man, there's a couple guys I've heard of, like, if you don't specialize on one side of the ball, you shouldn't even have a head coach a job. Well, I mean, oftentimes, you know, the counter is, sometimes great coordinators make terrible head coaches,

6:03nor have turn or leaps to mind, right? Guys like that. So I'm not saying that there's one way to do it, but I, my excitement is tempting. No, me too. Be too. Right? Because I think if you are, if you are talking about a coach like that, you would want a more complete roster, right? Well, you'd be more excited with him if you took over Atlanta, right? John's are pretty loaded. I mean, not as loaded as Atlanta though. Yes. I would be much worried. Whoever gets the Atlanta job they are and they are in a cat bird scene, I think. The other one I find interesting is, you know, a lot of the new opening I should say. It's the, I'm becoming a belief for an almost any of these guys, but like especially a Mike McDaniel, especially Mike McDaniel, or any of these head coaching openings really better for you. Now, them what like a lion's offensive coordinator job could be and then spring boards you to another better landing spot. I think Atlanta is the only job that I can say I would take over that lion's offensive coordinator job. All right. Let's look at some quarters of the Australian open, baby. This is going to be some hell of a state.

7:03There's nowhere here. No quarters here. Bed MGM Nevada. Sleep at the wheel. Draw yesterday. Draw, yes. Well, last night our time. Right. Okay. Yes. This morning Australian time. When do we officially start the Australian open? Ah, this weekend. Okay. I feel like I'm missing one of the, I feel like I've missed a week of an Australian tournament. We're not allied. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, bot. Melbourne coming up. Um, so here's the deal. Here's the deal. Quarter by quarter men's side. And I'll do this again. I'll do it in the podcast. We'll get Drew's thoughts. We'll get Zach's Mike. My quick reaction to these. These are available draft Kings. So quarter number one on the men's side. Carlitos exists. Carlos Alcarez. Appropriate that he is a minus five hundred favorite. I don't think you can force a bet. I think you can force a bet. I think you can force a bet. I don't think you can force a bet. I don't think you can force a bet. I think if Alex Dimonor and Aussie himself, if he ended up in a different quarter, he would have been

8:04live. So if you are, if you put, you know, if you, the proverbial you must take another player here. It would be Dimonor. Okay. But I just don't think it's realistic. But that's the only other name I would consider here. Uh, court. So and that's going to apply to the center quarter as well. Right. Ben Shelton ended up in the center quarter, which is quarter four. If center had ended up in a different quarter, he would have been in a consideration but I don't think you could take him against the great yonic center next to the second quarter. This one is going to be the bets will be induced here. But I wish Deniel Medvedev had a nicer price. He's only two to one. He does have the better raw numbers on hard courts. Then Sasha's verif who has been the third best player in the world for some time. But Deniel Medvedev was the third best for some time as well. But the veteran Medvedev who has won one slam. He is the appropriate short shot. I just wish it was a better price because then I would I would bet it. But it's not it plus two hundred. No love for FAA. No. Not this tournament. Not this tournament.

9:04What is this? The all Russian quarter? Yes. It's just a group of them. Medvedev in there. They're buddies, by the way. It's very happens to be German. Third quarter is where I think you might if there was one bet that I could endorse on a quarter. This is Novak Jokovic's quarter. He's got the best numbers still at the age of 38 of all these guys, which is incredible at plus one thirty five. So he's appropriately priced. But if I were if I were making a bet here, Lorenzo Musetti at plus six fifty six fifty would be the guy. And kind of had a feeling you were going to say that name. I was really hoping you were going to say another one. But my boy Gregor just got so much respect for that guy. Well, Gregor has been spending a lot of time with girlfriend. You know what? And who could blame him? I can't at all. Yeah. Wanted to back him. But you're right. Most of the time to get into the season, you know. Anyway, that's the men's and the women's side. By the way, did they put all four quarters up? I mean, I always saw the first quarter was down. I'll hit the rest of them, I always the four. Here's the here's the Yonic center one and minus

10:04seven hundred. Like I said, Ben Shelton was in a different quarter. He might be live but he ended up in centers. And Xiao Feng say, okay, still not a thing. Is there? I meant to ask you this the other day when we are looking at some of those props. Are we once again too much love for Zhao out of the out of the gates here that people got a little crazy. Yeah. It's just are the books protecting themselves. Is it more of that? Protect themselves from the young guy that they think could be the open. I mean, I think that's a pretty nice price. Okay. But he's not going to beat center. Yeah. This is just it's too top heavy on the men's side. Do you not want to do women's side? No, we can't. Okay. I didn't know how much time you don't like it. I mean, if people want a real hard version of this, they can tune in the broadcast. Oh, man, we we we get into it. First quarter, men, uh, women's side, arena, sabaleca, the number one seed, the favorite in the tournament, minus 230. If you had to make another bet in this quarter, not saying I will, but if I, but I am tempted, I like guessing where you're going to go. Martha. Yes, Martha, Kostya, plus six, 50. She's at a great start to

11:07the season. Didn't beat sabaleca when they played, though, but I believe it was like six, four, six, four, if I'm not mistaken. Is it this another one with Emboco? Is there too much early love in the season for a little too early? I mean, if that would be awesome. But yeah, just a little too a little too early, sabaleca's got the numbers. Kostya is the one that if you, if you were making another bet, I think you would go that way in quarter number one. Um, we'll get to quarter two, three, four as we cut tree club a little later on because you got some Sony open stuff. Yeah, we'll do that next. I will continue with it. Yeah, we're cramming the tennis and the golf net. Oh, man, did you see this, uh, do you see his one point slam idea they did the Australian open? No, but I saw the highlight just just it was awesome. I the best thing I saw, you know, SPF does best thing I saw today. Best thing I saw. I got to talk about that too on the other side. Numbers game. Vista. These sports betting network coming back. You're here because you want an edge. That's what separates listeners from winners, but let's be real mindset alone doesn't get bets home pros win because they've got the tools,

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13:08at vson.com. We get to eat speed in the book. Scott, New York mess 16. So let me get this straight. Kelly is still accepting birthday wishes 45 days after the fact with Mary Christmas slash happy New Year only last for four to five days. Well, I didn't say what did the happy birthday. I just pointed out it was the same day it was my birthday. Can we make K Michael Bidlin day a national holiday? He says that sounds. Yeah, we should. Ray in Texas. I don't know what time of year would be sometime in the summer. Why have we never had a holiday? Stevie Wonder for your birthday. Ray in Texas wouldn't this fit DC perfectly for the new stadium for the for the skins? Yeah, the first renderings of the commander's new stadium. He's talking about the columns. So most people nationally are saying, oh, the columns because it elicits the monuments, right? Yeah. That's not what I see. What I see is just the again, the silhouette of RFK. I love that they did a nod to RFK Joey bag of tennis balls like right around like on the outside of the stadium. So they're saying those columns, which like,

14:09yeah, I see the same thing you do. I remember RFK enough to get to see that. Those are someone who's a Jensen's corner. He said it looks like the fabulous forum in Englewood is what he's nothing looks like. Joey bag of tennis balls. Joey is a Joseph Taurus. Joseph Taurus. He is a umpire in tennis, but he goes by Joey bag of tennis balls on Twitter. He says, looking forward to the Australian open podcasts this afternoon. You're right. He says, Bagula is so consistent and totally worth four to one in her quarter. Hope to maybe see you at the Del Rey open. If you attend this, man, what are we doing? That trip, man? Let's do it. Numbers game at the Del Rey open. No, you know what? No, I can't even I can't even anymore. The last time I was down there, I'm going to be down there this past summer. I didn't go there at Christmas. Love Del Rey Beach. I used to live in Del Rey Beach. Del Rey Beach open. Used to be one of the most fun sporting events to go to every year because you could just go watch some lower level tennis, right? It's not the big stars, but it's still big enough tennis to 50. Yeah, 250. And then you just walk out onto beautiful Atlantic Avenue, go to a great

15:10restaurant or bar right by the beach. And you know what, Gil? It's all gotten way to condo buildings, offices everywhere, man. Just no little beach town at all. I know which way what you were going to say. Way too. Pause. Oh, I don't know the word I'm looking for. Del Bocavista. I was last time I was there. I was like, let's go to this place. This one bar I used to hang out. I was like, Oh, it's an office building now. Never mind. Okay. Grab on Del Rey. Any more? You want to still love it? Zach Cohen joins us now. Currency progressive guest line. You can follow him on Twitter at betting on X part of the glue that holds this whole operation together. Zach, good morning to you, sir. Good morning. How you guys doing? Doing very well. You said we have a splashy, sexy new Australian open page on the website. Is that true? Yeah, we're going to have a really nice looking landing page for it. I'm going to be doing my daily best bets for it. We'll throw the mega pot up on there. We're also going to do like a daily recap and look ahead video. So I'm going to be doing like eight to 12 minutes video stuff every

16:12single day. So we're going to have a little bit of extra stuff for the Australian open this year. I will tweet that link out as soon as it's ready. Let's go. All right. We're going to save all your Australian open thoughts for the mega pod later today. So we'll skip over that right now. NBA. Yep. You got some thoughts there. You got a couple props you'd like to share. Yeah. The first one is Anthony Black over 15 and a half points at minus one 15. They're playing the Grizzlies in Berlin pretty soon. I believe it's like 11 p.m. 11 a.m. Pacific time. So it's an early tip. And this is just a game where Black's going to be playing without Jalen Suggs and this season when he has played without Suggs, that has meant some good things. I mean, he's averaging around 20 points per game when he is playing as their starting point guard. And I do think this is a pretty strong matchup for him because the Grizzlies are not very strong. When it comes to defending pick and roll ball handlers, they're also one of the weakest teams in the league defending above the break three is in 20% of Black's points come from above the big break three. So I do think this is going to be a game or replay as well. I mean, the magic are getting back Franz Wagner today.

17:15So the Wagner boys are back in Germany today. And I do think that's going to help the magical lot. But I do think that Black's still going to have a high enough usage rate to get to 16 plus points. All right. And then uh, use of turkish were over 22 and a half points in rebounds versus the Mavericks. He's like, Nurgish. Yes, use of Nurgish. I don't know if I accidentally texted it in by accident. The turkish or not. I'm wrong. But yeah, I do have use of Nurgish over 22 and a half points in rebounds tonight against the Mavericks over the last 10 games. Nurgish is averaging 15.4 points per game, 11.7 rebounds per game. And I really like this matchup for him because the Mavericks are obviously missing out that he Davis. He'll be out for the next six or so weeks and also missing direct lively to second over, you know, the rest of the season. So this is a team that's all the sudden pretty undersized at the center spot and a little bit weak inside. They've been having trouble on the glass. They've been having trouble around the basket. They're one of the worst teams in the league defending inside 10 feet. And that is where Nurgish does most of his damage. So I do think

18:17he's going to have a pretty impactful game as a scorer. And I also think he's going to dominate the glass. I figured Zach knew a player I didn't know about being an NBA Harto post the part of the handicap. Completely fair. Yeah. Yeah. NFL Broncos Buffalo. Which way did you go here? I took the Broncos on the money line earlier in the week when it was plus money. I just think that having the extra week of preparation is going to be absolutely huge for Denver. I mean, Sean Peyton is one of the best offensive coaches in the league. So even though this Broncos team has been a little bit up and down offensively this year, I do think that getting to attack this bad bill's defense with the extra week to prepare is going to be really beneficial for them. And defensively, I kind of like the fact that this is, you know, an elite secondary going against a team that really doesn't have a great group of wide receivers. And I know that Alan extends a ton of plays with his legs. But I do think it's going to be hard for his receivers to kind of create separation even when he's able to do that and get outside the pocket and give them extra time. I think Denver's defense is really going to show up in that game. All right. I'm going to skip the the nine or Seahawks game because I'm tipped off as to where you're going with that. But let's go

19:18to Sunday. Texans in the Patriots. You got three, you got a three and a half on the Texans. Yeah. I got three and a half and minus one 18. I would still take three if that's the way you needed to do it. But I just kind of think that this Houston defense is going to really give New England problems. I don't think that may play all that well last week. I think that, you know, it's his first taste of postseason action and having to go against this Texans team. Definitely not, you know, the greatest of matchups like they have an unbelievable pass rush. They have a really reliable secondary. And I do think that if Nico Collins is out there, this is a game that Houston can win outright. Hopefully he is about sure that that'll be the case. But if he's not, I still like the three and a half because I think this is a game where the Texans really limit the Patriots offensively. And I think that strad while he was awful last week, like he's still good for a big throw or two a game. Like I think he throws one of the best deep balls in the league. It's just a matter of, you know, getting a clean pocket and having time to set his feet. And I had one or two big plays in this game might be enough for them to do what they need to do offensive. I'll say it

20:19again. He could not possibly play any worse than either the other night. Kenny, question more. All right. And then the bears. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Bears and Rams. You are not buying the magic carpet ride anymore. You're taking the Rams. You're laying the lay in the points. Yeah. I've actually bought the magic carpet ride all season. Like I think while other people were saying that Chicago was lucky, I was defending them and saying that they were just a team that's good at, you know, winning close games and, you know, it takes something to get into those situations. But I do think that this just feels like a really big discount for a Rams team that you look at EPA per play. Look at net EPA per play. They're the number one team in the entire NFL. If you look at rbsdm.com, a website that I use for EPA per play numbers, they're the number one team in tier one. Chicago is in tier three. Like there are several teams listed above this bears team. And I do kind of think that the Rams are going to be able to move the ball against Chicago, even if the weather is bad. And I think that defensively, I like that the Rams actually played

21:19the Lions last year when Ben Johnson was, you know, the coordinator for that Detroit team and held them to 20 points in regulation. I just think that they know what to expect from this offense. And it's a worse offense in Chicago than when we saw what Detroit. So I kind of like the matchup. But I think this is way too short of a number. All right. And then with the sea hawks, let me, let me, let me see if I can walk through this sea hawks. You don't, you like the sea hawks, but you don't want to lay all those points. And then in Indiana, you like Indiana, but you don't want to lay all those points. So you're combining them. It's that simple. Yeah, it's that simple. There's nothing more to it. I like the sea hawks to win. I don't want to lay seven and a half. I think that Seattle's defense, you know, we saw them give San Francisco a lot of problems in week 18. I think that maybe the Niners play a little bit better offensively in this game. Like they really should be able to, even without, you know, George Kiddell, just towards Achilles, but I think the sea hawks can play a lot better offensively than what we saw the last time. These two teams met. I thought they left a lot of points on the board in that game. So I like them to win. I think Indiana actually can cover that number against Miami. I just, you know, I was looking for ways to play the sea hawks. And I was like, I don't need to do it with

22:22an NFL game. I can do it with a college game. And it just thinks it's a little easier for me to take the Hoosiers on the money line rather than laying, you know, eight to nine points. So a little money line parlay with all these, by the way, you see if the money line parlay is the better bet than the T's, right, which you shouldn't be doing in college football anyway. So money line parlay for Zach, the sea hawks and the Indiana Hoosiers real quick. Just before you go and in the last 20 seconds, what's your now that football clears? How much what's the percentage pie you spent on basketball? And what's the percentage on tennis now moving forward? I would say it's like 40% for both and then 20% everything else, like wherever I need to pitch in. And then obviously, March badness comes around really soon. And that consumes me for, you know, two, three weeks in a way that's like unimaginable. So I'll be kind of like sitting here at my desk from like six a.m. to like two a.m. during March badness. But then once that stops, things slow down a little bit for us. I always tell people like we have like a teacher schedule in sports. We do. It's a beautiful thing. Coming back, thank you, Zach, appreciate it. Coming

23:23back right here on a numbers game with Mike Sommage next. Numbers game on FESEN, these sports betting network. Back on a numbers game live from Circle Resort, casino downtown Las Vegas, Gill Alexander. It's my little buddy Kelly Billen, everybody. Lawless Eye. This gentleman has himself a podcast. It's called Sharp Money, which he does with our buddy Patrick Mahler. I haven't heard from Pat again. Talk to Patrick. I'd text Patrick. Hope he's doing all well. Yeah, man. But I'll tell you who I don't have to text is Mike Sommage because he's with us right now to talk horses, to talk hockey, to talk football. Anything that's on his mind with his Samo bombs. You can follow that Samo bomb 18 on Twitter. Mike Curtis in the progressive guest line. How you doing, man? Doing great. Just got in from my morning polo match. Excited to be here with you boys. Sorry on Twitter there. They they figure you as a polo player. Go for you. Based on all your loves. I actually have played polo once before. Wow. It was not pretty. I will probably never play

24:26polo again. You've played polo before? You can ride a horse. Yeah. There's a ride a horse. I do know how to ride a horse up in Saratoga. So Saratoga Springs, almost Saratoga race course. There's a big polo grounds. And I had a friend who was playing polo invited me to come out and try it. I tried it for about 15 minutes and I was good. Didn't need any more than that in my life. Wow. How would a Mike Sommage Drew Dinsick podcast go? Or they just like out bourgeoisie. They should do it while playing polo. That's right. Yeah. I've consumed alcohol in a polo match before. I know that will not shock you. I have never attended such a thing. My people don't usually attend those. Florida. My people don't usually attend those events. All right, Mike. Let's start with horse racing because that's your that's your go to brand. We'll start there. Before we get to something here this weekend, do you have any Derby like way too early Derby plays for us? How about that? I do. This is this is like one of the most fun parts about the triple crown trail is the

25:27hype trains that get rolling. Yes. And we have don't have a great three-year-old class this year. I think this is one of the more wide open Kentucky Derby's we've seen since mage one four years ago. That means that like when I see three-year-olds debut, meaning debut, they've never run a race before. It's the first time they're on the track. And I'm really blown away. I get way too excited about them. We saw one last weekend. The horse today is chief Wallaby debuted in the fourth race at Gulfstream Park last Saturday going seven furlongs on the dirt, trained by Bill Mott, who won the Kentucky Derby last year. Jumer Alvarado rides. He rode the winter last year as well. He looked freaking awesome. I mean, just did not get asked around the turn. They were going fast when Alvarado asked him in the top of the lane. The horse just took off. Very, very mature horse. Not available in most future pools. Yeah, like that's how early we are here. But we'll have to see if that one pops up. And if so, I'll probably drop a win-way drawn, especially if I can get somewhere in the 50-60 to one range. That always trips me out about Derby like this. It's really like used to happen when Johnny

26:28Avello is at the win. You used to like walk up to Johnny and be like, Hey, Johnny, can you put up a chief Wallaby on the board with a number or a 40 to one? I missed those. 40 to one. 40 to one. You said you missed not bad. You missed those days, Mike. Yeah. I missed those days. I remember I have I back when I owned race horses with a buddy of mine. He had justified a 250 to one at the win. And he literally had to ask the question, hey, how much can I get? And this is the name of the horse. And that was before justified debuted. Now, not a lot of places going to book that's like that in the race side anymore. Let me just focus on the first part of that set. Yeah, I heard it too. Because I heard nothing afterwards. I don't know. I don't know. Quotes back when I owned the horse races. Wow. That's what he was playing polo. Okay. I heard nothing. He's killing me today. I heard nothing after that. Well, not saying it, but I'm envious. It's okay. And then you have something in horse racing this weekend, yes? Yeah, yeah. So if you're interested in the triple crown, if you want to follow it, check out Vison at the track. We've got our own YouTube page, got our own podcasts. We're going to cover everything. Triple crown as we head toward the Kentucky Derby and the

27:29Kentucky Yokes this weekend is the comp weekend down at fairgrounds. That's the feature race. Derby points on the line. I really like the number five hollers. Golden tempo here. Eight to one on the morning line. Shared to vote trains. Jose Ortiz takes them out. He's her main rider. The first time this horse is going to go to turns. That's the big question mark. But there is a lot of speed sign down. Golden tempo came from off the pace last time. I don't think distance is the problem based on the pedigree. And golden tempo, awfully live in La Compte race number 13 at fairgrounds this Saturday. Eight to one on the morning line. Okay. I keep getting tripped up by somebody said, you just say he's got to make two turns for the first time. Yeah. So that the first race of his career was around six furlongs. So they only go one turn in six furlongs. You only on the back stretch, the far turn, and then the home stretch. When you're going to mile in a sixteenth, which is the distance of La Compte or mile in a quarter of the distance, the Kentucky Derby, you start around the finish line. So you have to go around the first turn, the back stretch, the far turn, and then through the stretch. Gotcha. So it's often a challenge for horses going from one turn to two turns.

28:33That's why I mentioned it. So far, everything Micah said, we've doubled back. I know I've had to stop. I just started thinking about turns in a horse trail. They don't go all the way around the track. Apparently they don't. All right. Let's see if this part goes. Let's see if this part goes better. Hockey. What do you have in the NHL tonight? We are going to go to the Minnesota Wild. Currently my favorite hockey team on the planet right now because my potato is blues are absolutely awful. Minnesota Wild added Quinn Hughes via trade a couple of weeks ago. They have just gotten better and better and better. This is a team that's also starting to get healthy. I don't think they're getting the full respect in the market yet. A team that I was high on at the start of the season faced a ton of injuries. Now we're starting to flip the script on it. The Winnipeg Jets on the other side have majorly disappointed. Throughout this season right now, Minnesota minus 140 on the money line. They're not a good overtime team. They're not a good shootout team. So let's just play them in regulation. Let's go Minnesota plus 105 to win in regulation and just take out the overtime in the shootout side of this. Take the better team at plus money in 60 minutes. I like it. Okay. To the national football league.

29:38I asked this question on the megapod every week, which is if you had to play every single game, but you got one free pass one game you want to know part of on the side, which game is it? You have a distinct game this week. It appears based on on the Bet you have, which is and it's reflected in the line, I guess, right? Bill's Broncos, you want no part of that? Yeah, I don't want any part of that. If you want to tease the bills up to seven and a half, go for it. I have fun. If you want to try and play Harvey rushing props, go for it. Have fun. As far as the side, like this should be one and a half. The line is right. And we don't have to bet every game. And to me, this is the one where I didn't bet it open when I could have gotten plus one and a half on Denver. I'm not going to bet it now when it's it's right where I think it should be. I understand why people think through Harvey rushing props are great. I'm a little concerned because we've seen Glocken get some more of the carries there and we've seen Harvey be a receiver more than a runner in certain cases. So I don't want to play that on that side. I don't mind. I know a lot of people like the Seattle Buffalo teaser. I get behind that. If you want to throw it in there, I just I think this game is correctly priced in that that Broncos and bills game pro tip. We don't have to bet every game. Absolutely. Okay,

30:43you do have a conviction, though, on the Niners and the Seahawks later on Saturday, which way you go in here. Yeah, I do. Look, I realize this line is probably a little bit juiced up at seven. And I want to play Seahawks minus seven years. So make sure you find the seven, not the seven and a half. It's over there. It's circa right now was two and a half for Seattle, week 18 in San Francisco. Now if you do the point and a half for home, that means this line should be right around five and a half for Seattle. My argument to that is A, you lost Kittle and B, if you go back and you watch that week 18 game, it was 13 to three going on 30 to three. I mean, that was a dominant performance by Seattle. I don't think people realized just how dominant it was. You go back and you look at total yards. Seattle doubled them up. It was 23 to nine in first downs in that game for Seattle. They had a downs turn over early in that game, missed two field goals. They left so many points on the board. And they still would have covered seven and a half, by the way, despite leaving all those points on the board. And then you go back and you watch the week one game and you kind of forget when the 49ers were completely healthy, they really struggled

31:48to move the football against that version of Seattle's defense, which is worse than the current one now. I think Seattle should be sitting somewhere around the eight and a half type number here. So I'm happy to go out. Find the seven. Latest seven was Seattle. I think they they control this game on the defensive side of the ball. All right. Let's go to Sunday Texans and the Patriots to start the day, which way are you betting this? I can't get to three and a half here. I just can't do it. We just saw the three and a half with the chargers. Are you telling me the Texans would be a pick them on a neutral with the chargers? I would back the brings up truck up on the Texas there. I have I would have the Texas almost as a fulfill goal better. And now you're telling me I'm getting the exact same price in New England that I was just getting on the chargers with the Texans. Yeah, give me the three and a half year. I get it. There's no Nico Collins. I understand Stroud wasn't great. There is no way I could be told that this should be three and half. If you want to say three and make an argument around the Collins and Stroud stuff, fine. But the other side of three is just wrong to me. So I'll take the Texas with three in the hook. You and I are simpatic on that one. We're Oppo on San Francisco, Seattle, but we are dead on

32:52on the Texans together. And then the bears and the Rams. Yeah, this is another one where like if you told me I could get the Rams minus one and a half on a neutral over the Packers, I would be backing up the Brings truck. Give me the Rams minus the three and a half year. I think the bears have been phenomenally coming back and football games. You got to love what they may be able to do. You can't fall behind the Rams. Like they've been falling behind to other teams here and be able to to kind of claw your way back. I think the Rams take care of business in lean a little bit toward the under just because of the temperature and the wind that we're seeing. But I like the Rams minus the three and a half is the best bet in this game. Mike, we love you. We always learn something. Kelly Kelly and I are simple humans. We always we always learn something. I got one question. Oh, yeah. And Mike, have you ever rode horses on the beach with crashing waves splashing into the fueling? You know, you have to have done that, right? I have rode horses up a volcano, but never on a beach with splashing waves. I'm going to leave you with this more badass horses go the opposite direction in Australia and in Europe. Do you think those horses can also turn the same way they turn in the US

33:56or do they struggle with it? I'll let you think about that when I'll answer it next time I'm on this guy. What a tease. Steve tees. I bet they struggle with it. When's the next sharp money podcast with you and Patrick Mahar? We will be on Sunday or Monday morning, covering the these games talking about next weekend. You got to be sent at the track today. Okay, be sent at the track. So so much doing the horse racing thing today and it is sharp money on Monday. Thank you, Mike. Appreciate it. You got it, guys. Have a good one. Sommobarm 18 on Twitter, by the way, SOMO, cover that. Numbers game on FESEN. These sports betting network. Back on a number game. Live from Circus, Orcasina, downtown Las Vegas, Gil Alexander, Kelly Bidlin. We get tweets and be the book. Y'all the best. Bet on Pete says can we get a gift of Bidlin saying always live? Sure. Did you say always live? I don't know. String fellow hawk lifelong giants fan here.

34:58The only upside to the harbor hire is his stability. Hopefully he brings a good OCD developed dart really likes to Fansky. And then Tronsky reminds everybody for the Australian Open podcast that Kelly has rammed into Congress. Three Australian wines is a bonus. That's right. That's right. Dredin's top three Australian wines. I should probably text him about it now that I've brought up brought this up so many times. Look at those pictures of the new RFK. I don't think I can be called RFK. Hey, did you see this T-shelled off thoughts on your skin's new stadium for four billion each sheet should be in each seat should have a massage chair. In my opinion, maybe a will. You know what's opinions on RFK stadium? Tim Murray. Yes, he does. He's from the bed. He's seen the reandering. He's from the DMV as the kids say today. Tim Murray joins us now courtesy of progressive guest line. He's the host of a decent prime time. He's the host of the college football tailgate show. He's the host of the college football betting podcast. How you doing, Tim? I'm good. Yeah. The renderings are pretty exciting. Take the old, I think you stay on the red line

36:00to get to stadium armory. You might have to jump off. I can't remember if we have to transfer a metro center, but regardless got a transfer. Let's bring it back, baby. Yeah. I think you had a transfer. I could be wrong about that. It looks great. Okay. You were a red liner. You were a Bethesda red liner. We're on the red line side. Yeah. You keep knocking me into Bethesda. Just got one to school there. It didn't mean I grew up there. I thought you lived in Bethesda. We're for a spell. Yes. Mostly in Northwest DC and Silver Spring. Tim is really trying to get the Bethesda thing. Not to say the wrong. By the way, if I move back there, I know where you went to school. Yes. I won't bring up that. I mean, yeah. You wouldn't want to be over. You wouldn't want to have the athletic superiority embarrass you. Is that what you're saying? Is that what you're saying? Okay. Let's let's talk about the natty. Let's start there. Where do you stand on this Tim? Cain's eight and a half point dogs at this point, which is interesting because I hear the folks with Miami tickets sort of, you know, and it makes sense, right? It's like, okay, well, I don't want to lay minus 350. How else can I creatively do that when minus 350 is the only

37:04hedge, right? Clean hedge on the other side. Those of us within the end of futures, we really ought to take Miami plus the eight and a half and yet I have. I'm hesitant because I just feel there's a scenario with a Hoosiers don't even have an issue with this number. I probably should do the responsible thing and take the eight and a half. What is your thinking on this game, sir? Well, I am, I'm naked when it comes to not right now. I am clothed, but I am naked from a futures standpoint. So I don't have to make that decision. But yeah, if you have a Miami ticket and, you know, something I talked about and I imagine you hit on as well, you know, before the bracket came out and our buddy, Chris, the bear, Felica, many others were championing the Miami, Miami should be in. There were some prices at 200 to one or so. So if you have that ticket and pocket, boy, you're feeling pretty darn good. Even if you have to lay a heavy amount of juice on Indiana money line on the flip side, like yourself with Indiana futures. I mean, you talk about all the time, Gil. And I think you do a really good job doing it is, you know, it's kind of up to

38:09your discretion of, you know, how much money did you put down? Do you? I personally, I would say this, if I had an Indiana ticket, I would have a decent amount on Miami plus eight and a half because I do see a scenario that this is a competitive game. I fully recognize that Indiana is a wrecking ball right now and they have looked just flawless throughout this playoff run. But if Miami, and it's a big if, but if Miami could play a clean game on Monday night, I think this thing is very competitive. And I haven't bet it yet, Gil, because I don't think there's a rush to take the points yet. I know Chris Andrews over at the South Point has a nine right now. We'll see how high it goes, but I think I'm going to end up on Miami taking the points here. Do I think they'll win the game out right? I don't. I think Indiana, I think this is their year. I think they're so buttoned up as a program and it's just it's hard to poke holes in this Indiana team right now, the way that they're playing, how well they are coached, how disciplined they are. And, you know, let's be real. Fernando

39:13Mendoza has five incompletions and eight touchdown passes this postseason run. But, you know, for Miami, if they play like they played against Ohio State where they had zero penalty is which I guess, you know, I recognize a big if I think this is a four quarter battle and I can't wait to see, Gil, you know, this Miami front against the Indiana defensive line. I think Shannon Dawson, the OC for Miami is one of the better offensive coordinators in the country. I think Bryant Haynes is one of the better defensive coordinators in the country for Indiana. I just I think this is going to be a really, really competitive game assuming that Miami can avoid the turnovers and the mistakes. And they didn't really do that against Ole Miss, right? They had 10 penalties in that game. They had a costly turnover. So I think Miami's going to want to hold the ball like they've done successfully in most of these games as postseason. If they're able to play their game, I think this is a lower scoring grinder of a game. I think you are correct. I would be an idiot not to take

40:17the plus eight and a half at least to get my outlay back. I think that's how I'm going to play it in the end, but you're right. There's no rush at this point. Hey, Jen, it's real quick. Tim, you think better chance? Better chance. We see a nine and a half or a seven and a half again. Seven and a half. Okay. I just, that's my gut. I would be absolutely stunned if we got to 10. That would be, I think that would be a bridge too far. I think that's probably where everyone would jump in. You know, it's interesting guys. You think back to the cotton bowl on New Year's Eve. It was nine and a half most of the week, right? Miami, Ohio State, and on game day is when you saw that cane money really hit the market and it closed seven and a half. So my guess would be Kelly to your question. I think we get a little bit of buyback on Miami closer to game time because I would assume the people who are looking to bet Miami that have the ability to move the market. They're kind of feeling the same where we're all feeling. It's like, well, what's the rush, right? You see some of the betting splits that are out there. You hear some of the discussions that are

41:18out there regarding Indiana. It doesn't feel like you really need to race to take the points with Miami. Maybe you see a little game day steam on Miami. I think this lands seven and a half eight would be my guess, you know, before kickoff on Monday night. Here's how I know eight and a half is too much. And I say this is a guy with an Indiana ticket, but eight and a half is, is gone crazy. Because if we had had, you know how we have these discussions, Tim, before post seasons, where we say, okay, what do you think right a hypothetical line? And if we had said, all right, Miami, not only do they get into the playoff, right, which was an underdog to begin with, but they advance all the way to the national championship against and then we would have hypothetical opponents. And we said Indiana, our next sentence would be, well, if Miami got all the way to the championship, we would have a completely different feeling about them at that point. And so these lines would be way more muted, right? The fact that Miami got to the national championship and it's still eight and a half, that's crazy just by that. Does that make sense to

42:20you? Yeah, absolutely. And look, I think there are, I know there are going to be plenty of Indiana fans there. I wouldn't be surprised if Indiana fans outnumber Miami fans, but you still have to factor in the fact they are playing this on their home field. So there is a little bit, not a lot, but just a little bit of that. So Miami coach closed seven and a half against Ohio State, now they're eight and a half, even a nine out there. So, you know, could the number be wrong, but Indiana still cover? Of course, I mean, that happens all the time. So that could be the case here, but I ultimately will be on the Canes plus the points. But I'll say this before we wrap, I will not have a money line taking on Miami. I just, I like the points. I think it's a lower scoring game, but I think Indiana, ultimately, it's their season, man. Signeti, smoke those sigs. It's his year. I think you're right, man. Tim, if I move back to the DMV, I'm moving straight to Bethesda. It is a gem, by the way. It's a little expensive now. It's expensive now. That's true. That is very true. Tim Murray, everybody. Thank you, Tim. Appreciate it. See you guys. Are we sure next on a numbers game?