Best Friend Reveals Horrifying Secrets About The Killer

0:00Welcome to your top true crime hop for the variety and episodes you're looking for. Enjoy. You're trying to make sense of it and so are we. So, you know, we're just talking to you about what you know, not about what you've heard or anything. Just trying to find out as much as we can so we can, you know, kind of make sense of this ourselves. So, if you, if you want to break anything, just let us know. But when we start off with, I mean, tell us about Sidney. How did you, when did you first meet? How long have you known each other?

1:04I've known Sidney for six years. We met on the first day of summer gym in high school and then we were the best friends ever since. Very close. And you, what are you, what are you now? What are you doing now? I'm at school. Okay, where do you go to school? I go to university and I'm not union. Okay. And what you're in there? I'm a sophomore. Now, we understand that Sidney was your roommate at Mount Union? Yes, she was her last year and this year until she left. So, how did that work? Did you, did you, or maybe did you both plan on going to Mount Union? Yeah, she liked it first and I was like, I don't know. And then I visited there and I was like, oh yeah, this is the place to be. But when we both got to know each other, we're definitely being roommates. And so, you've been friends ever since your sophomore freshman year at CNB? Go over each other's houses, everything, everything like that.

2:07So, what are you studying at Mount Union? Education. Education? Yeah. And what was, what was Sidney taking? Well, she started off at exercise science freshman year, her first semester. But then she didn't like the classes. So, she switched over to psychology and sociology. But then she didn't like that. So, this year she switched to education and then she didn't like that either and that's one of the reasons she left. So, what's about the time you spent together at Mount Union? You said that she really wasn't, couldn't find something that she was interested in. I think her most interest, I think, was psychology that learning about that stuff. But other than just like hanging out with her friends, like educational wise, it was kind of hard for her, I think. Where did you stay at there? Where do you stay at?

3:08Fresh in New Year, we were in a dorm room and then this year we were in a suite. So, it was like a dorm room but like two, so we lived neighbors and shared a bathroom. But this is actually, it's actually at Mount Union, the Union housing, it's not like a separate apartment. Yeah, yeah, it's not even housing. So, it's just you and Sidney. And now, where there's some other groups of students that you're on around frequently, neighbors, yours? Yeah, so, like I said, our suite mates, which was Alyssa, who was a cheerleader with me, and then my friend, or our friend, Brett Me, who lived in the townhouses. So, she lived with us, but she was really close with us because she was in Orange, so we were already together. And she was also a cheerleader. No, Sidney and that same cheerleader? Yes. What cheerleader is that? Alpha Chi Omega. Now, do they have a separate house on campus there or how does that work? So, they do have a house on it, but they only have one apartment where you can't really live there. So, it's Alpha Chi Omega.

4:08And did you both join together or did you, how did that go? So, we both went through a recruitment together and we both didn't know about the same sort of thing. What attracted you to that sort of thing? Um, the girls, the vibe that they gave off, like everything that they stood for. And what was that toss about that? Um, they're philanthropy. Well, I think the girls are just really nice in general. But the Florida degree they're seeing for is, um, the domestic violence shelter lines. And you know, I've never been like in any of this, like, situations. I think that, that was a good cause. Okay. Um, so you didn't act, there's no actual house, but there's everybody just belonging to the sorority to stay a different part. Different, uh, their dorms, is that? Yeah. Yeah. How often did you get together with those girls? Um, every Sunday we have chapter, which is, like, kind of like the meetings. And so, and if we had events, we were with them. So we had an event or only Sunday chapters.

5:10So often. So when you first got to Mount Union, how, how was, uh, how did they go for Sunday? Was, um, did she seem to be, I mean, you mentioned that she didn't really, you know, find a niche as far as what she wanted to study. But, I mean, did she ever talk to you about, uh, her classes and how that's going? Or did you share that with each other? Yeah. I mean, I think we talked to her classes a lot because we had helped her to learn a lot. Um, I think she was, like, like, that she, I think she showed her other classes. I don't think her grades were the best, but she didn't really tell me that because, um, I wasn't really struggling. But I think you could tell kind of, especially at the end, that she just wasn't, like, doing her best in high school. She was very, like, good grades and everything. So I think it was kind of a shock, or not to be, like, like, to struggle, I think, all of it. I think it's like a steady habit thing, you know. It's a big difference when college do. I think so.

6:10That's, like, in high school sometimes you can procrastinate a little bit in college and definitely can't. So she just wasn't, uh, you know, did it seem like, how did the, how did the, this might kind of change a factor. I mean, did the factor moves at all? Did she seem concerned about it? Or tell us about that? Um, I think she had a lot of stuff hidden because when we were just talking or with our friends, she always seemed happy, but she seemed okay, like, I said, I couldn't tell until the end where she was kind of just, like, struggling. And she kind of was sad and just, like, born, I don't know what to do. I'm like, well, you just need to find what makes you happy. And, like, just, you need to find what you like to do. And, I don't know. I didn't get to make her a little upset because she was confused because she, I think she felt like everybody around her kind of had figured out what they wanted to do. And she had it, so I think that kind of affected her. So, when do you think this, that it really started affecting her, that, like, look, this is, you know, I'm really having problems.

7:16And this is, I have to, I mean, I don't want to put words on them off. Tell us when you think that, that it really started affecting her, like, often. Well, I know she's had anxiety for a while, but I don't think, I think it was last, like, this last semester, like, starting coming back in January. You might really started that she was kind of more upset because she really didn't know what she wanted to do or what she did with her glasses. Because that's why she started the education classes. And, like, my friends and I were worried for her because we were just, we didn't know what was going on because she wouldn't tell us. There was problems with me. Howling or something. Just, like, me, chair, remedy that put names on the doors. And her name wasn't on it when we got back and we were confused about that. And she said, it's because they messed up because she didn't sign the forms right or something. But it kind of never got fixed. And then she left. I asked her questions like that.

8:16And, like, she's like, no, I have books and I asked them for my classes. But, like, I do homework all the time. And I don't think I saw her doing a lot of homework the last couple of weeks. So I think this last semester is January. Part of what she's been planning to do the most. So, had you hung out over that Christmas break? Yeah. And was she talking about what was she talking about that? And was she talking about the next semester? Or did you guys talk about school at all? I don't think we talked about school. Maybe living situations because for, like, January or winter living in the townhouses and, like, what we were going to need. So I think we're talking about living situations, but, like, school-wide and class-wide. So, when you came back from Christmas break, you didn't see her name on the door. Yeah. And when did she come back? She came back this same day. Same day? Yeah. Did you come together? No.

9:17And so, take us through again. Her name wasn't on the door. Yeah. So, I think the door people do that? Yeah. So, the RAs do that. So, we were like, oh, what happened? Like, maybe we should go ask the RAs. People were asking the RAs. Her name all the way to the RAs. I don't know. So, she was kind of hesitant to ask the RAs. So, that's when we were kind of just, like, what's going on? Like, my sweet baby Alyssa and I were asking, oh, what's going on? It's pretty just said that when she signed out the form, she was wrong. So, she was meeting with RAs. She didn't sleep a lot in the last couple of weeks to kind of figure out, like, to get her stuff back. Because then her, one of her name was on the door. Her dorm key. That's the thing we get into with the dorm belly. It stopped working. And so, but then it started working again. Because they, she went over to RAs' life and they turned it back on. I don't know what happened. Really? But that's all she said. So, it wasn't. So, when she got there, didn't work.

10:18And then she went and talked to them. Yeah, good. And then, uh, so is this, like, for the key? If the outside door any of you had to use one for the inside door? No. So, there's, uh, yeah. Well, kind of. There's a key card, like, our Mount Union ID. And that's when you swipe in. Like, you can get into the building. Okay. And then there's the actual key for the room. The swaker wasn't working. The key's faker. Okay. So, I think she just told us that she didn't feel like the housing form out. Like, this is when we had to come back. We developed forms and we're coming back. And she said she signed something off from. Mm-hmm. So, I don't know if that's true or not. Like, that's what she told us. And then, she just, I think, that she met with friends, like, a lot. Like, a couple weeks trying to get them figured out. So, she could put, because she was staying. And then she also decided not to stay. And so, she had to come to terms with key and stuff. So, when she got her stuff working again, how was it like day to day?

11:19I mean, was she going leaving the dorm? Was she coming back? Yeah, good. And what were you thinking about that time? Um, I was confused, because, we toured her everything for a long time. So, I was confused in the sense I didn't know what was happening. And I was just like, she could trust me. She could tell me that something was wrong. I'm going to help her. But, she didn't really tell us anything. But, she didn't tell us anything either, or Britney. Um, she did go class. So, she was leaving the building. Mm-hmm. But, usually, her and I were together, because our classes were similar. So, we'd be coming back at the same time. But, I see, I saw me as your key. But, like, I'd use my key too. Mm-hmm. But, yeah, we were together most of the time, because we got through classes and stuff. Did you have any of the same classes? Uh, we had the same class, but not the same time. Did you actually know, for sure, she was actually physically in the classroom?

12:20No. She didn't say it. She told us she was. And I mean, she was, like, we would have had French class, and she was doing her French homework with me. So, I knew she was doing stuff with the same class, and I knew she was doing stuff with the same class. Okay. Was there any, like, you mentioned Alyssa and Brittany, um, any other, like, many of the sorority sisters in any of her classes? Um, no, but she was also close to a grounding college. Um, she was in our sorority, but she was also cheerleader. A lot of her friends were my friends, and I was cheerleader, so she hung out with a lot of people. So, you don't know if she was actually ever sitting in a seat in a classroom. I can't believe that. No, because we had classes at the same time. And if we didn't have classes at the same time, that would be because I was in a class and she was in a study room, because she didn't have classes at the time. Uh, what was she doing? I mean, she had to dwell on the lot or help to describe what she was doing with it.

13:21I mean, she was not any class. She was close to being class. Uh-huh. When she lived in a class, if she waited for me, she made the study room, so that they'd now get into the rooms that you've been studying. So, she'd wait for me until I get out of class and then we'd go do stuff together. But if she'd be in the dorm room, in her bed, did you notice any, you know, change in a room? Was she talking about anything? I could tell she was getting more upset, more sad, and I told her, like, you can tell me out. I'm here for you. If you need anything, I'm here. But she never really opened up until she was late. She didn't say that she was struggling in school, and that she really, she was kind of trying to figure out what was going on. And that's what I started to try to help her. And then she, then ultimately decided to leave, which I thought would really be good for her just to get her mind off the rest of the semester

14:21and then come back and go to add for her something the next following fall semester, kind of, hoping that would help her. So what was that like conversation? And as opposed to when she left? Um, that conversation? Maybe a week before she left. A week or so before, saying we were talking about it, we were just like, a little city. I understand that if you like to take classes or summer classes, if you want to come back to Mal, I'm all for it. Like we love you, we want you here. But like I understand it. You go, like if you go home, like my friends and I talk about this, we'll see you too. But if she goes home, and she just needs to go to Akron, just to be at home, just to be somewhere where she can maybe try to find a new work ethic and something I make her want with us, we're all for it. And she like, she said, I appreciate that. I really want to come back to Mal, and let's go grow on her friends on. That's where I want to learn, even pass a semester behind. That was kind of what she said.

15:21So when did she actually leave? Can you put a day on that, something that reminds you of when she actually left? Did she stay with me? Did she? The week before? The week before? The week before? The week before? Is that the last time you actually actually saw her? I saw her in the morning. It's, it's, and that, when she came back to Mal, to watch the lecture with me and my friends at my friends' time house. She came over. Did she stay where she was staying? After she left? Or what did you believe? Where did you believe she was staying? She was, and she passed us when she came home. Like, I made it every day home. Yeah, they showed you at home? Okay. So you think that, before this happened, she then had the house a week? Yeah. Okay. She waited to use about a week before the incident. The near second, she's at home? And then she came back to... No.

16:21...to just that Monday. Yeah. Okay. So Lauren, let's, let's talk about this. You know, you're her best friend, and know this is difficult, but it tells about her relationship with her parents. She... Her and her parents have really good relationship. Her mom and her were best friends. Like, they did everything together. Like, one of the reasons she went home was to be with her mom. They were always close. She never said anything bad about her mom. She never ever talked about having an argument with her mom. Like, I can't recall every time she'd be going home. She was like, I can't wait to see my mom, or when she goes home for weekends. She was like, oh, my mom was being home, so I'm going to hang out, and then watch movies, and she liked, like, she would be home. And she had a good relationship with her dad, too. Like, I know, that her and dad liked to watch, like, stowers together,

17:21and they... He always had cooked food at the house, like, he liked cooking, and she always thought, how good his food was, and what they're getting to their Christmas, and things about it's pretty great, but she was like, she loved being home with her family. So when she's talking to you about, you know, the problem she's having at school, did she mention that she tried talking to her parents, at all, or that they, you know, they were going to have, that they were involved in her future plans at home? Yeah, I know she definitely, especially when she was, she talked to her mom about leaving, and they kind of made that decision together, to leave now, that she told them that. She didn't tell her for a while, but I knew everything kind of built up. She was telling them how she was struggling with school, and then, when she left, I knew that was a decision between her and her parents kind of, kind of, new to her type of decision. Now, when you say that she told them, and it was like a mutual decision, is that her telling you that? Is that her telling you that she?

18:21Yeah, she told me that she talked to her parents, and they decided that they were best for her, to just finish, not finish their ethnicity. So as far as you know, based on what Sydney was telling you, she was discussing the situation. Now, did you think her parents knew, based on what she told you? Yeah. Right. But you never ever talked to your parents, all right? No, I didn't do your parents in a while. So you last saw her, which would have been like a week before the incident, and then, did she remove all her things, or what about, did you get the impression that she was moving out at that point for good? When she told me that Tuesday morning, she woke up, and she was hungry, and she said, I need to tell you something. My family, I decided that it'd be better to take the semester as a semester off, and I have to leave today, and then, she would have packed up all her stuff,

19:22and kind of told all her grandparents, and then, she left. That Tuesday, with all her stuff, all her wedding, all her clothes, all her sightings. And I was a Tuesday before the incident happened. Yes. And then, she drives up to see you, and then, and Monday night before. Yes. Okay. Yes. Did she say anything that day when you were watching the bachelor or how did that, did you ask her if she was doing her and tell us about that? Yeah, we asked what she was doing, and she said she was good, and like, she acted like, well, we would see it as normal, when she was laughing, she was having fun, she said she got jobs, because she worked at the acronym, she worked there for a couple of seasons, so she was going to go back there, and then she also said she was looking for another job, and everything was good, and she was trying to figure out, like, her next year, and all this stuff, and she was going to talk to her parents about housing, trying to come back to Mal, that was her name, and, and she seemed fine, like, she seemed completely, like, like, I said, she was laughing, and we were dripping off, and, and,

20:22and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, a daughter into the morning, but she didn't end up in the hospital that day, because she drank, like, mixed drinks, and drank too much. But usually after that, her network together and she did drink, I usually tend to let silver down after I knew kind of her limit, because she's a small, kind of new her limit, and that she did drink.

21:22What, what situation was that in? Was it just like a party or something? I was in the dorm room watching movies, because I didn't want to go out, so she went out with her other, it's not like her friend, I really, really close with them. I was close with one, but not the rest. And I got a call on, like, 11, saying to do that party, and she was going up, and she just wasn't good, and to come pick her up, so I kind of went out and got her, and then she was feeling good, and so I brought her back to the dorm, and she would go to get out of the car, and I guys would be trying to help her, and the R.A. I came out in the R.A. college campus securing, and the campus securing, and I realized something that she was taking last year. Did she have any friends that, like, wasn't in your friend circle there, or, like, she had friends that she had maybe made on her own, but you're aware of? Not really, because you really, she had been in the dorm room hanging out with us, or she already girls, but I knew all the sororate girls too, that they were my friends.

22:24A lot of this to me and a lot of the same friends. So her circle of friends pretty much consisted of the sororate girls that you were in, and some of the cheerleaders that she met through your life. Yeah. Had you ever seen her taking anything, or any medications for nothing, nothing at all? Is there anything that you know of that, you know, I need you to hear from anybody else that she might have done that? Have you ever heard anything like that? No. Try not. Okay. So, what is your phone number? What phone number do you have, Lauren? 330-687-221. And there's text in that? We did, yeah. Okay. So, you said you mentioned in Allison? The Audrey. I'm sorry, Audrey. Do you know Audrey's phone number all the time for your head? No. How about Britney? No. I have to look at my phone number. I know you just probably think of them in contact. Yeah. So, did she, after she left, she had all her stuff and left about a week before, what kind of contact did you have with her during that week? Did you talk to her at home over the phone? Um, not really. Because we kind of talked a lot about her. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

23:24Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Joy, we kind of wanted to give her a week, just described her. She asked her how she was doing. And I called her a few— she didn't give her a shower. And then I texted her, and then I was like, oh, just wanted to make her her real cut and then she talked a little bit. And then she asked if she could come over that Monday for the backzu. I said, oh, of course it! We love to have you. We went, you hear, and then she came over. And then she texted me on home, and then we'll text the videos to each other. So she's having a video at night too, and I was kind of like the last of it. Okay, video. A TikTok video.

24:27Did she have any, where friends are any guy? Friends that she met at my auntie or in her? Well, we had that with Victoria, you guys. And like she had the same guy I've invited. And she did have a boyfriend from about like December before break until January when she came back in the room. So, he's like a month of show. Yeah, I've been a very strange thing. Don. Don. Don it. Except them. Except them? Yeah. So what made you break up? He cheated on her on me. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. I'm lucky happy. Yeah. So we had that one. How did she find out that happened? Um, I had friends at the party that called me and told me, and then I told her. Okay. Yeah. So you had to break the news for her? Yup. Yup.

25:27Um, and she ever, you know, any of you mentioned that she had the drinking episode, and you kind of like break downs or anything, or you mentioned that, um, you know, she had our time finding out what she wanted to do, what she studied, but any like real bad episodes that you can recall, anything like that. I mean, we know bad, like I've seen her cry, but not over that. I mean, I've seen her cry before, and like just being stressed. I don't think she can don't stress very well. So she cried over stuff sometimes, but she got too stressed out. But other than that, not really. The worst, uh, I mean, how did she take the news about Dominic? I was, she, um, she was upset for like a while, but then she was just kind of, she said, you know, it was not meant to be.

26:29That's okay, and then she broke up with me. Where did she from? Uh, um, uh, the neighborhood. Uh-huh. And the worst back before, she just got like, that's my texted message. Yeah, she dumped it over. She was like, I found out. And she gave him a little bit to see Pete Teller, and he never did. So she was like, I kind of don't like that you never told me. So I just think we should end this now, because not more go. Take the lead. So did you talk about her anxiety? Tell me more about that. Um, I think some high school city spend dealing with anxiety. Um, I guess I should really deal with stress well. So she gets in my, but she's stressed about something. She kind of gets a little worked up over it. Um, she went through a period in high school in her junior year, where she just was, like, almost socially anxiety.

27:30Like, she didn't like, like, talk to people, or even like a friend group, or go out to like restaurants, or stomers, and she wasn't going to talk to cashiers and stuff like that. Um, kind of helped her and pulled her out of it, and you kind of, one of our overall, um, I think, well, she went to the counselor. So, like, sitting with the counselor, I kind of talked about it. And it got better after that. I've seen her, she was more and more like, I should've said, but I think junior year should definitely struggle with it. And then, in college, I think it got worse again, just because, like, because she didn't know what she wanted to do, and I don't think her grades were more than she would, she wanted them to be. So, like, when she was doing her grades and stuff, I think that kind of stressed her out, and then I get her more upset, and I think, you think that she'd tell any counselors up there? Yeah. And kind of, you should have to encounter them now,

28:31because you have to go into the health center, and you can cross campus, which you never left there. Yeah. So, when she's, did you, you mentioned that she was having problems with her grades, did she ever talk to you about, you know, the university's feedback, like, if she was on my probation, or anything, and the official status that they changed, do you want to wear anything like that with her? I know the reason I kind of found out is because, in the sorority, I got an executive position, or, or I was in a position to where I knew she could do something, because her grades, so she academically, for her grades in the sorority. When would that been? That was the semester. That was last semester. I kind of found out about that, because we had a thing called, which had been the fall, and this past fall, so much truth. We have a thing called big little, where, like, the older girls get a new girl that I went and mentors, and she wasn't able to get one, I guess, because of her grades. So, that's kind of what I found out,

29:32because I was in a minor position then, where I helped pick the big glows. So, I was in a position, I kind of found out, because of that. And, how did she react when, when she was, you know, when you talked to her about that? Um. Or did you talk to her about it? I didn't bring it up until I was like, hey, I know you think a little, and they said, it's a pleasure academics. Is there anything you want to talk about? She's like, they just messed up my transcript, so, like, I didn't give his bad grades. I'm like, how did that happen? But, yeah, so she told me that they messed up my transcript, but then, she came and told me the truth, a little bit later, that she did have bad grades. And, is that, like, this little thing, is that, like towards the beginning of the semester? More towards the middle. Towards the middle end. Towards the middle end. And, that she did finally come forward and said that, you know, she was, did she match specifically where her grades were? She said that she was having some problems.

30:32Okay. And, how do you find out that, was all that? How do you find out about that? Well, it all the grades were pretty bad. Yeah. I, never really found out what they were exactly. I just, she told me that she was a high-time bad grades. My friend, she kind of struggled with grades a little bit. So, she was the first one you kind of noticed, that she was pretending to be struggling, because she had been in any position before, the refreshment in the sophomore year. A little bit. So, she kind of could tell. And, she's the one who kind of was like, warm, you kind of talked to her about it. But, it was okay. It was like a probation game, right? It kind of. And then, do they ever just say, did you ever just notice she wasn't supposed to be here? That's what it kind of felt like. But, I never knew. Really? Was there any never appeared in the door? Very.

31:32Did you ever, was there any RAs that ever came in physically checked her sleep there? See if she was staying there? Um, after, she left. That, after she left. So, before that, they came to talk to her. Who? Who's there? Well, you see. The already, already. She came to talk to her, and then, red light was also coming to talk to her. They come and ask her, and she talked to her. You know, how many days before she left for that dinner was it weeks or days? It was weeks, like, throughout the weeks that she was there, kind of, on and off. And then, at night, as you saw her, we were going to see you again. Um, we were running out. We were going to try to hang out again as soon, like, over a weekend, there's only, but not, like, the official or not specific plan, but it is. You know, come home. Um, you came to home with that. I come home sometimes, when I left it. But, I knew, because spring drip was coming out, so we were making lights,

32:32probably to each other after. Okay. So, like, back here in Acherin, was there anybody that, like, お願いします, or she went, said you'd be a real good friend with that you, she spent time when she was back home. Who would have been to hold out, then? If she would have, it would have been either or Katie and the Davis or Acherin is things Lewis. But, I don't think she had her contact with him, because she didn't hear and even know that she left until I told him. So, I would hold your contact with him, and then, um, we had another friend, who goes to a cat in her name, and then And I will think I will know if she contacted her either. What's going on with the last name? White. Did she go to St.P.? She did. So what about social media stuff like that? Any social media share? She had Snapchat, Instagram, Twitter. So does any of that look... Did any of that ever look weird, dark, anything to you?

33:33She never posted anything, so I really don't know. Okay. Any guy friends that were back here? Yeah, I think she went out with... Hmm... Not really. No. But she was here, she didn't use any other thing. Like her close friends were kind of... The love that's good. What's her relationship with her brother? They are. I think of them more specifically relationship. Like they love each other. And they'll do anything for each other. So, you know, brother and sister aren't you? Stuff like that. I think it was pretty relatively normal that she loved her brother. She told me that all the time. Then we talked about... Like I talked about Steven. She talked about Earder. Like... They should have to go and run her soccer games. And he's a cross-gain者. It's before you do that. Were she planning to... Like, um... In her neural soccer... But not eating her anything like that?

34:35Yeah. And then you back to your macro and you think, you know, I think. So, Lauren, what... I mean, what have we asked you? Is there something that you think that we need to know? Or something we think that we might think is important? That's a way in under mind. Thanks, Lauren. I think you guys have asked a lot of good questions. I think you've got a lot of... Like, oh, on the main day, it's like... That's definitely... She has to have anxiety. I don't know. You know, she ever... Went to a doctor back to have no score or anything like that? I don't know. Is she calling... I guess I would say that's like, to me, a serious word, to call... To call something. Anxiety? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I guess... This society day, where it's kind of a game. Right. That's why I was wondering like, you know what's a doctor, and he said, yeah, I'm anxiety, and we just kind of tripped it on my back.

35:36No, she never said anything. I wanted to adopt her. I don't know. It was that. It was a story. Right. And you should... Like, we would call it anxiety. I guess, even if it's just a small term or a term, we just used to use a lot. Just... She was stressed a lot. I think that's it. Yeah. And then, when... It all goes back. All of this... So, how do you find out something that happened to her mom? So, I knew that. I got called into my coach's office, because the dean or somebody came in, and I was called into my coach's office, and they told me that something happened at the power of events, and then people were going to the hospital, but they just didn't know what happened. Then it's for you. Happened. And then, I... My dad was coming to give me a suitcase. And so, then, my dad had a tournament. Oh, you guys were going for it? Yeah. Yeah. Because I remember being here. Like, the next day or something? Two days.

36:36Yeah. Oh, no, no, the next day. Yeah. The next day, yeah. It was... Yeah. He kind of told me what happened, and my mom asked me, and I said, oh, I'm going to bed. So, how did you feel about that? What were you thinking? I was shocked, just because, like I said, sitting in her mom was so close, and that kind of just was like, what do you mean? I don't... I think I was shocked and confused for a lot of it. And then, I kind of... When I was on vacation, I thought, did you use that? This happened? Yeah. Something happened to my mom and her. And I don't know what. But, I've been going, should I... I can't really help. I don't know. When you guys went, I know, I guess. Then, you know, I can't do anything, other than just being in person. Yeah. Just shocking. Yeah. It is shocking. I kind of was just kind of, you know, like I was just like, you know, maybe didn't believe it at first. I was like, no, sitting in her mom, like, maybe something else happened,

37:36something else was there, but, obviously, that wasn't the case. So, I was just really shocked about it. Can you talk to any writer family, specific? Um, we talked to her dad, just, like me, sent flowers for people, so he kind of named us, and just to make sure we were okay. Basically, we just, make sure we were okay. We were okay. We were okay. We were okay. We said, they knew anything, you know, either for them, kind of that type of situation. So, what about the other girls that are in person? You know, they... Um, they're okay. I think, giving up, you could spring break, kind of let everybody kind of, digest what happened. Like, we were all really upset that day or night, and the only... I wasn't there on campus, but we came to send, we didn't know that, Tuesday, or that Wednesday, I wasn't there, but I heard, everybody was talking about it, and it was kind of, upsetting for some of the people, that were with friends, because they were just confused, because so many people, love to hurry,

38:36never would have saw this coming, not at all, never would have saw this coming. So it was just a big shock to everyone, but, like, of having, that week, and now, I think, not being at school, because of the, the coronavirus, it's given every time, just to, like, heels, kind of, digest what happened, and just, like, kind of, that. So if anybody said anything, like, we got negative messages. Yeah. Yeah. Anybody saying, bad? I got news this week, and she asked you, whatever, anything bad? Not to me. Okay. Everything that I, but people, my friends, have texted me, and people, have texted me, and, um, during that week, on spring break, I kind of turned off all my notifications for social media, so, like, I didn't see anything, or, I didn't want to, kind of type of thing, just, kind of, heel, not, but, um, I,

39:36I know from my friend, that people were saying, me, then, I offered social media page, her Instagram, and this public, my friend told me that, I didn't go read it, but I, I don't know. Yes. Yeah. Um, I heard there's negative comments on her Instagram page about her, but I, like, I said, I didn't read it, but everybody's, everything I saw, that people texted me, and stuff, was just positive, saying that, they're here for us, we love us, and, kind of, that type of situation. You guys are like, so, what are you doing now, just online? Yeah, online classes. Are you guys back now? Just for break, technically? Yeah. Monday and Tuesday, off, and then, yes, faced her at online classes, but I'm just looking at home, because they shut out her norms. You can't live in the dorms, anymore. Well, what, uh, of course, what did, how did she usually, I know, like, when you're at school, you get that card and everything, but, um, did she pay for stuff with cash,

40:36or, if it wasn't her, a university card at the university facilities, if you went out, you know, to a restaurant or something, right? Um, either cash, or she did a debit card, or, you know, us with a pay, and she did a spending, type of money. We should spend them, we should spend them, that was kind of how it goes. So, you did a cash in her debit card? She did have her individual debit card. Uh-huh. Yes. Most of the food is, you guys eat, um, off campus, where you guys, I had a kitchen, and you used up at home? Uh, so, there's a cafeteria, and then, we have, in our school, a cafe, your dining dollars there and eat money, but if not, it was at a restaurant or at our friend's townhouse, which they had a little size kitchen, so it cuts away. Okay, so how are you feeling home? I'm okay now, the first couple days where I was kind of sad and just confused and shocked,

41:37but like I said, I kind of realized that the only thing I can do is kind of tell you guys what happened in my kindling, what I know about her, and just know that I know Cindy, or Cindy, how much she was, and that's all I can do, just support her and try to help as much as I can, and that type of situation just I know that there's nothing I could have done right now, or that situation I wasn't there, I don't know what happened, so all I can do is just eat it for me now. Well, Lauren, if you think of something, I'm going to give it my card or dad knows how to get hold of us, but I'm going to give it my card, and if there's something that maybe say, I'm sure we're going to tell the tech to come and tend to win that, or anything at all, or what should I ask you, have any questions for us, or, you know, there's probably a lot of things, but okay, I'm going to give it my card, and if you, like I said, if

42:38you think of something, or, you know, somebody says something in contact you, if you're Instagram or whatever, says something that's really unusual, I don't know what that would be, but if there's something that sticks out to you, or, you know, just get hold of us, okay? I will. I'll take a call. So what do you study? What are you studying? Well, I'm studying at home. I have a little project that I enjoy. I'm going to speak about schools, maybe a lot of this, how do you do that? I'm a student, so I don't have a degree. I just wanted to take our students to my school and help me practice. Then I'm going to go to my school. I'll be there, I'll be there, I'll be there. I'll be there, I'll be there, I'll be there, I'll be there. Well, thank you so much, thank you. Now you've listened, now go to your thing.