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Benches CLEAR after controversial slide, Buehler’s “accidental” early exit, Strider nearly traded?

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Jermaine Dye used to call pitches from the dugout?! (Top of show) AJ and Kratz have some stories of unlikely personnel making big decisions.

(5:34) Benches cleared between the White Sox and Pirates after Brandon Lowe took exception to Sam Antonacci throwing a bit of his elbow into Lowe while sliding into second base. Bush league or legal?

(20:01) Bryce Harper has lost 9 of his 14 first-inning challenges. He’s challenged in the first inning as a batter more than 18 teams have.

(21:56) Brandon Sproat’s four walks in the ninth inning with the Brewers up seven runs sparked blunt criticism from Pat Murphy. The Brewers optioned the flamethrower shortly afterward.

(23:49) Craig Stammen appeared to lose track of how many mound visits he used in the third inning, resulting in Walker Buehler’s early removal. Stammen revealed postgame what actually happened.

(30:37) Anthony Volpe was recalled after Jazz Chisholm Jr. landed on the IL. What does his replacement, George Lombard Jr., think of his return?

(33:15) Jose Altuve reached 2,500 hits. Can he make it to 3,000?

(35:37) The Braves discussed trading Spencer Strider to the Rangers in a deal for Jacob deGrom at the trade deadline?!

Hosts: AJ Pierzynski, Erik Kratz, Scott Braun

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Benches CLEAR after controversial slide, Buehler’s “accidental” early exit, Strider nearly traded?

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That's how my brain's working right now after a fake trip to Vegas. I was on a meeting this morning. I do 80 a day and on one of them, Jay, someone said I was Vegas. No, true. True story. Love it. I love it. Uh, Aaron, he's gone. I'm about for it. And he said he watches. I think there's some people that catch the AJ days and are catching on to a theme that AJ will make up where I am for the day. But this person did not catch up on that little trick that's being played by AJ. I was not in Las Vegas. I wish I was in Las Vegas to try and beat AJ's 21st birthday celebration weekend, but I did not have the firepower to make the trip. So that's one. You did not want to try to beat that celebration. I promise you. I personally, AJ, do not want that smoke because I don't want to feel that way. Sometimes I do. Mm-hmm. Right now, I don't. I will take the hangover list body that I have at the moment.

The second thing that I wanted to go over with you was something you brought up yesterday. And I think you've told this story before, but I wanted to get you to humor us before we begin our journey. Dermain die calling pitches. You mentioned that. Yeah. But I wanted more. And I maybe you told it, but I still want more. So we used to, Burleigh, Burleigh never shook and never did any scouting reports. Never watched video. He just pitched. And whatever you put down, he would say, okay, now, if there were times in, in Dermain, we had a really tight new grip of Dermain, Cree De, Canerico, you know, Yoree Bay. The guys that were around, was sitting there around for multiple years and hung out together a lot. Dermain every once in a while would be like, you know, I could call the pitches with Mark Pitchin. And so every once in a while, if the game would get out of hand one way, we go to Dermain and say, Dermain, you want to call the game from right field. And he's like, I'll do it. And he'd be out there literally, Kerbal, Fastball way,

Fastball in, Cutter, Change Up. And I just, I just look out and right field and Dermain, Change Up. Okay, change up. Here we go. Let's see, it took a lot of pressure off me. Yeah, because you had so much pressure with Mark Burley pitching. Like, there was no wrong pitch to call. It was just, he was, he was bringing it to the plate and it was probably going to be weak contact. Yeah. But it made Dermain feel special for a couple of minutes. Yeah, 100%. I love it now. But then if he gave up a hit, and it was like, see, it's not that easy, isn't Dermain? You take it so easy out there. It's not that easy when you start giving up hits. Yeah, but that's when they say, well, you weren't out there when Burley threw his perfect game. So maybe we need a different catcher. That's fine. The reason, the reason I brought this up is in yesterday's interview with Max Muncie, which you can catch, wherever you catch us. The guys were asking if he's ever called pitches. And he almost purposely, when I was way to say,

hey, I do not want to do that. I don't want to give the team any ideas about my catching ability as the emergency catcher on the team for many years. He wants, he does not want that smoke either. So has this happened frequently, or is this a rare occurrence? Like crafts, did you ever know someone that called pitches from a different position? You did. I let Jimmy Rolms call pitches one time. And in the minor leagues, I would definitely, there was some, some giants fans might remember, might remember the name Brian Bocock. He's like, I want to call pitches. It looks so cool. I'm always looking in there to see what you guys are. I was like, all right, cool. Do it next inning. There was my buddy Nate Bump on the mound. And Nate's like, we serious? I was like, Nate, you throw two pitches. Like it'll totally be fine. You're throwing a sink or most of the time. He did it. We went one, two, three. And he was like, that was kind of nerve-racking and kind of exhausting. I think I'm done. And if Max Muncie became a catcher,

imagine Max's stats as a catcher. That would be legit. Yeah. He'd be a good catcher. He wouldn't have those stats as a catcher. What are you talking about, AJ? How does that affect your hitting? Come on, man. Trust me, there was many more times when you come off the field after you give up a four or five spot and you're leading off. You're like, oh, man, I'm pissed. We just gave up a five spot. Oh, yeah, by the way, I've got to go try and get a hit now. And I'm leading off against, I don't know, name a great lefty. Randy Johnson, I mean, Roy Holiday, Chris Seale, C.C. Sivathia, name one. And they're like, oh, yeah, go get a hit. Go have a good abat. And you're like, I'm still thinking about the five we just gave up. We're now trying to catch that you're back there. And your jersey is ways three more pounds than it did to start the inning. Yeah, but no, don't worry about it. It does not affect it. It doesn't affect it. People say it doesn't.

Those people are not real catchers. So with that, let's charge. Hey, Jay, you watch just about every white Tox game. Sam and Tannachi is, I would say one of the folk heroes, one of the spirit animals out there on the south side of Chicago. And he's certainly one of the shirt leaders for us on FaltaryTorchop.com. People love buying the salmon Tannachi shirt. So he's a fiery guy. He takes a lot of pitches to the flesh to earn a base. In this case, he's slid into Brandon Lau. Apparently, I mean, is this elbow kind of touched him? Do you think this was a big deal? Beelow. Beelow doesn't get into it much with people, but he seemed pretty pissed and used some expletives and benches cleared. The mound was not charged. There were no punches thrown. But what do you think? Do you think there was any reason to be pissed? I mean, listen, Sam, earlier in the year through an elbow kind of a Wilson Contreras at first base,

that one was a little bit more than this one. This one to me was he's just kind of slid. And what do you do? I don't know what to do with my elbow and it just kind of got into Brandon Lau a little bit. I know you're not allowed to touch anybody on the field anymore. But I didn't think this was that bad. They still turned a double play. It wasn't like he took him out. It wasn't like he swung his elbow out. It wasn't like he kicked his leg out from under him. He just kind of slid. And listen, I know this when I slid, especially in a double play, I would use my, I put my arms up to cover my face. Right? If there was a guy, you know, turning it, I'd put my elbow out because they would swing their leg around. This is back when you get take guys out. So they would throw and they'd swing their leg around. So you throw your elbow up to try to protect yourself. I don't think this, I think this got blown out of proportion. Just because Brandon Lau, this we love Brandon Lau. He's a great dude. He's a great player. But they're not used to being touched. So if you touch him now, oh, you know, oh, no, what a catastrophe. But I didn't think this was a big deal. But it's good for baseball because you know, we're talking about baseball. Yeah. I mean, if this was the 70s, 80s, 90s,

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So if you've got catching up to do now's the perfect time. Listen to Hey Jonas on the iHeartRadio app Apple Podcast or whatever you get your podcast. So here's what Sam said because Sam's on the same page as UAJ. I think most people in this case, he said it was a completely legal play. If you go look at the rule book or go look at what happened, you can slide as late as you want as long as you keep contact with the back. And yeah, I defended the whole thing and added that he was just playing the game hard. And Kratz, that's what Sam and Tnachi does. There's no doubt about that. And that's why I think he's ingratiating himself to the White Sox fans. Hey, Jay knows like you play hard, you play every day. The South Sideers are going to stand up for you. And I think it's something that live, Brandon Lau, that's because that's all you have to react to. Live, if you're watching it, you're like, no, good job. Like you got in there, he got in there as much as he could

because it was going to be a, there's going to be a bang bang play at first because it was a shot to third. So it takes a little bit to spin it around. Live, I didn't think anything of it. And then when they showed the replay, maybe that elbow got in there a little bit. But you know there's going to be contact. I've never seen anybody know there's going to be contact and just be like, no, nothing. No, like you're going to like flinch or even like give him a little bit. I didn't see anything wrong with it. I did pray a little bit for their first base coach because he was the one that got in the way of Antonacci. And that was when O'Neal Cruz had made his way in from center field. And if you ever want to see how big of a human being O'Neal Cruz is, go back and watch the end of that little like whatever that was, barking match. Kerfuffle. O'Neal Cruz is a big dude. Yeah, Kerfuffle. Kerfuffle. Is your bougie. I'm going to use Kerfuffle. And Andrew McCutchens exact words, he's an avatar.

Like he is, he stood next to the first base coach. And it was like things kind of just like, things kind of just parted. Like there's always that guy on a field with large, large humans. He is larger. Do you think there's some frustration from the Pirates? AJ and how their season has resulted? You know, it's funny. I was looking at these two teams and when I was watching the highlights last night, I was like, the white tux are what the Pirates wish they were. Yet there are only a couple games away from each other in wins and losses. That's not how this is played though. One teams in the American League, one teams in a weaker division in general, right? The Pirate Tappenner was tied in a division that has the Brewers and the Cubs and even the Cardinals playing well. The White Sucks are 75 and 70. They might not even have to play in the first round. While the Pirates really haven't played meaningful games in September. They're on a run right now, but it's too late. So we didn't even really spend much time talking about them. So I don't want to say jealousy.

It's not like Brandon laughs. I'm jealous of the White Sucks. I mean more of an organizational comparison. We thought the Pirates. He should be jealous of the White Sucks. Brandon. Hey, I mean, he wishes he was in playoff contention right now. As at any player would, but AJ, the Pirates didn't really accomplish the goal of being relevant in September while the White Sucks. I don't think most expected to be relevant in September. And they're going to be in the postseason. Yeah, I mean, it's all about what division you're in. And I mean, let's be honest, you know, Pirates had beaten the White Sucks. If you watch both those games, you know, last night, four to two, the first night, I think seven to three or whatever. And it didn't even seem that close of games. White Sucks had some chances last night, but it never really hit into some double plays or whatever. But it's because they're in the National League. If you put the Pirates in the A.O. Central, and I'm an A.O. Central guy, spend most of my career in the A.O. Central, I think they'd be in better shape. I think they'd probably be the two seed right now in the American League, like the White Sucks are.

But just because of the record and everything else. So in who you get to play the entire time, you get to play, you know, 13 against the twins, 13 against the guardians, 13 against tigers, 13 against the royals. And when you're in the A.O. Central, you get 13 against the brewers, 13 against the cubs, 13 against cardinals, 13 against the reds. And if you compare the division by division, I would say the five in the A.O. Central will probably better than the five in the A.O. Central. So I mean, as far as frustration goes, no, you can't control where you play, control the games you do. But yeah, maybe for some fans, you're like, gosh, I mean, every team other than teams in the A.O. West go, man, if we were only in the A.O. Central this year. I can honestly say, I never, as a player, I never looked up and was like, man, I wonder what our, you know, how we'd be doing if we were in a different division. But as a non-player, I look at it and it's a honest, honest thing. Like, there's a lot of teams that probably are like, you know, you look at the Marlins, or maybe Marlins ownership or Marlins fans would say, man, if we weren't in the nationally East.

But as a player, like, that's not to me, that's not really a thing that I ever thought of. Did you know you were going to face better pitching in the American League East, the nationally East? Yes. Like, those are where the better teams are. But this year, the American League is a little bit down. The pirates made a little bit of a push to add offense, which they felt like they needed. And with that, their defense kind of took a little bit of a step back. And then, you know, obviously they didn't have any money left over for the bullpen. So they're five games out. Like, this is where they're at. And I think it's a, you can't look at the white socks and be like, man, I wish we were in the American League Central, be fair. But when they realign, when they add new teams with expansion, who knows, we'll see. That'll be a big discussion. Well, we were used to being in the American League Central. Now we're in the East or now we're in the South or the North, whatever they're going to call it.

They'll be Kings of the North. They'll still be Kings of the North. Like they're going to be this. Except it's a central. I'll tell you one thing. I might. So that central, that central travel, y'all, I know about that central travel. Well, that central travel was the best. Months he said yesterday. Months he said yesterday. He's like, man, that travel in that central. I can't imagine how good that would be. It was nice. It's so good. You don't even need as much fuel on your plane, right? You can basically have half a plane. Like the Tigers that. Yeah. I sometimes when I was at the twins back in the day, that plane they had a major league when I was in the twins back in the day, we were lucky if we had one engine on our plane. Sometimes we floated in. Did you guys have to stop? I'm just not from Minnesota. The only time I ever had to stop in the big leagues was when I went from Puerto Rico to San Francisco, we had to stop on that one. Wait, really? But from what I took though yesterday was

Months he saying school on the Tigers would have to stop on a plane going coast to coast. Is that actually good? Yeah, it's good. In 2026. I never, I never, most of the time you don't go coast to coast. You don't go. I don't know how many times, I mean, I played on the, you know, the East Coast, there was a red socks I played for. And we never had to stop. We just flew. So maybe we had a different plane, but yeah, I don't know. Yeah, you would never, your schedule would never be like, oh, we're going to go play the Dodgers and then finish out the road trip with the Marlins and the Braves. Like if you're, if you're going to the West Coast, if you're in a century, you're going to the central, you're staying there, maybe hit like a Houston and then bounce back home. But rarely would you go West Coast all the way to East Coast. So I'm sure it didn't happen much. And I think he said that was the old plane. Now they have a new plane, but I'm not 100% on that. I thought he said it was their old plane. Okay, we'll have to do some digging there.

Our investigate reporters on the F2 plane. Old plane, new plane. Hope to know the next one. Yeah, who gives him, please. But beat. That's true. That's still, that's true though. That's still pretty incredible. And Max was pretty yesterday. Max was awesome. If you haven't seen him, Max, months interview, that was awesome. He was great. Like you always is. Exactly. And hey, if you want more on what happened with the socks, then socks machine is the spot just given them a shout out. There it is. QR code on the screen, subscribe to socks machine, wherever you get your podcasts, or if you're watching on YouTube, what's good? Seek geek, it's that time. It's Thursday. So let's look at what the weekend is going to bring us here and where you might want to grab a seat, Seek geek, rates at 1 to 10 for you, by the way. So you can get a good seat. Rangers and Diamondbacks starting up this weekend. I mean, if there's a sweep in a series like that, AJ, it's the kind of sweep that can end a season. I know the Diamondbacks maybe have a little bit more if they fall apart like over one series coming up

because the Padres are still up on the schedule for them at the end of the year, although that's in San Diego. But that one stands out to me as a big one to watch. What else? Orioles Blue Jays. That can be an elimination series. I mean, that's a big one. Astros Rays, the Rays are playing so well, they're beating the crap out of everybody. So if they go into Houston, Houston, blew the big lead last night, those are the two. Excuse me, that really stand out. I think this is a absolute slam dunk that Major League Baseball made this happen. What is tomorrow? September 11th. Who is playing this whole weekend on the 25th anniversary, commemorating one of the saddest days in our country. And the fact that New York is playing New York in the subway series, go get your tickets. Yeah, that had to happen very well done on the schedule for us. Sometimes we have questions about the schedule. This is a tip of the cap.

And we're going to do a segment on what's about to happen there and a big documentary coming out. We'll do all of that a little bit later in the show with a special guest, but I'm with you. So there's plenty of action to keep an eye on from the weekend. I mean, the Guardian still have to do their thing and they're facing a twin team that's toast at this point. Twins can hit a little bit this year, but they couldn't do enough on the run prevention front. Look up, Cody Clemens. Yeah. The Guardian team, the Guardians played the Orioles, whatever, the Guardians are, as Kevin said, they're going to catch the White Sox not. They're not going to catch the White Sox, but AJ, they're in the driver's seat for a wild card. Yeah, yeah. Cody Clemens out. Nice. I know you're going to say crowds. No, no, no. Yeah, I was just going to say overtook the lead for home runs for the twins. He might have a shot at 30. Poof. I think he's at 26. Yep. Good for him. All right. So for you, the number is 10. 10% off tickets. The code is territory 10 at seat geek.

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Plus, we've been taking your calls, listening to your voice mails and giving advice, or at least trying to. So if you've got catching up to do now, it's the perfect time. Listen to Hey Jonas on the I Heart ReadyWap Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, the Phillies won yesterday. Exciting win for them as they get closer and closer to hosting home field for that wild card round. But did you guys see this sat? Bryce Harper has now lost 9 of 14 challenges in the first inning of games. He's challenged more first inning calls as a batter than 18 teams. Crats, you're watching a lot of Phillie. What's the word here? What's going on? You know, I haven't heard much of a scuffle about it, but it is not a good number. I mean, I think some teams maybe don't use it enough. Other teams don't understand the importance of it. And I think if you're losing that many in the first inning, okay, if you're superstar or not, I think it's something that you have to be able to say, hey, maybe we curtail this a little bit

or why do you feel like it's so important in the first inning to try to win those challenges? Yeah, AJ, you better be careful in October. Yeah, I think it's going to be interesting to see how the challenge is going October. I mean, again, I did a game not long ago where the Braves ran a challenge as four hitters into the game, Drake Baldwin used one and then Ron LaConia first hit and a ball that was all up in the plate. I mean, I've seen pitcher's challenges lately, which you thought we had gotten rid of, where pitchers were challenging, call. So I think it's going to be interesting to see the strategy of this in the postseason, but yeah, Bryce has been bad, which surprised me because he knows the strike zone really, really well. So I'd love to know if those were the balls at the upper part of the zone because that's the one that seems to give people the most fits. Yeah, in first inning, you got to be careful. Then you're getting nervous about the second one if you drop the first. Hmm, not if you're Bryce Arbor. Not him, but the team, I'm saying. No, but I'm saying what's the team going to say?

Hey, Bryce, you're not challenging? No. Hey, we appreciate and respect the way that Pat Murphy does his job. It's so different from how most managers do it. Brandon Sprote in yesterday's win for the Brewers at four walks with a seven run lead in the ninth. And Murf said, it's unacceptable. You've got to throw the ball over the plate or you can't be a major league pitcher. They optioned him, AJ. I didn't know they optioned him. I want you to just did today. Oh, that's rough. It's got those 100 miles an hour. Big part of the match trade with them. But yeah, you got a seven run. Listen, Krauts will tell you, and I'd rather have you give up seven solo homers in a row than walk four guys in a row. Because you can walk four guys in a row. Guess what happens? You have to bring in someone else had to bring in your Reve. And they barely hung on. But I'd rather have you give up seven solo homers in a row than walk, guys, because you just can't defend it. You have no chance. Hitters will tell pitchers all the time how hard hitting is. Pitchers don't believe it.

They don't. And I don't know. Like last night, it didn't look like it was a, oh, he was trying to nibble. It was, he was trying. I mean, by the end of that, by like the third walk, during the third walk, Contraeorice was like sitting up, setting up down the middle. They were big misses. And this isn't the first time that Murf has said some point it remarks about Sprote. So Sprote's got a, he's got a main. Make the adjustment. Yeah, meanwhile, the Brewers need to adjust to nothing. They're going to run, run, run away with the division after doing what they did to the Cubs. They swept them. They faced them seven times in the last 10 days. They won five of those games. It actually has pushed the Cubs back to a dangerous zone where they're going to be on the road for that wild car game and Philly, most likely, they're two back in the lost column game. Magic numbers down to five for the Brewers. That's the decent champagne.

They're good, the bad, the ugly, the good, the Padres win against the Nationals. They sweep them. The Diamondbacks lost. That helps the Padres, Padres and Diamondbacks, even in the wild card standings as of this segment. The bad and the ugly, well, it was weird. Walker, Bueller, after two and a third, laboring gets removed from the game. Craig Stamman does it, but there was some discussion going on and there appeared to be a mishap, although Stamman, Padres manager, tried to clear it up post game. And we have sound from Stamman. So let's get his explanation of what happened. If they meant to pull him, if they knew that they're already been in a mound visit during that inning. Hard to hit. Yeah, he picked me up. It was amazing now to be by him. I think when I left the dugout, I was very convicted. I was going to put him in the game. And then that 90 feet to the mound, there's a lot of things going on in my head. And unfortunately, it worked out really well. That Kyle came in, got CGL in that big spot,

and then was able to get Morales out right after that. So Kyle has done that a lot this season. He's really picked up our starters, picked up our bullpen available to pitch a lot of innings and get through games and basically, especially what we're doing, like the bullpen games. He was a big piece of our success. I talked myself out of it or into it about seven times. But one of those things, I've got to be more decisive in the moment or in that walk to the mound. I was decisive in the dugout unless decisive that's it went. And when you get less decisive, the game speeds up on you and you make a decision that you probably shouldn't make. But worked out really well. We've got a great team. They picked me up all year. They continue to do that. Today was a prime example of that. Yeah, Kyle Hart was able to help them get out of trouble. And really then the Padres bullpen was nails the rest of the way in a Jackson Meryl game, two homers, triple, six RBIs, all around great win for the Padres. But this part was weird. Do you believe Stamins explanation? You always want to believe everyone. When they say, hey, we're going to take them out.

Then he talked us into it. But then we both forgot that there was already a mound visit. It's a second visit you got to take them out. Do you believe this story? I believe the fact that he told us something. So I like that. Whether it's true or not, who knows, crats. I mean, managers, you know what's funny? If they would have lost this game, it would be such a bigger story. But because they won this game, he's like, ah, it's so funny. But imagine if Tony Vitello would have done this, right? Where they forgot how many outs there were, how many mound visits they had or someone on the hot seat. Then it would have been like, oh, man, look, this guy doesn't know what he's doing. Craig Stamins, the first year guy too. But because they're winning and the right now, they're having a great shot at going to the postseason. Everyone's like, ah, look how funny that was. Everyone gave Calper to this and brought in the guy who wasn't warming up. Everyone's like, look at this guy doesn't know what he's doing. But Padres are in the playoffs. Ha, this guy's great, man. Look how funny it is. Kyle Hart picked us up. Let's go team. Yeah, I don't think Gabe Calper knew what he was doing. But I think the decision, the decision that he was making on the way to the mound,

you can have brainfarts. So I would agree that he had a brain fart. I think he's hemming and hauling about going out there. And maybe he's thinking so much about it. And I know I coach high school baseball. And I'm constantly people think like, oh, well, 85 pitches. That's usually when you take your pitcher out. Like, that's when you think about it. No, I think I start thinking about it at 50 pitches, at 60 pitches. Like, who's going to get warmed up? All that stuff. There's things that he was thinking. And the inning was kind of getting out of hand for Walker Bueller. And I think it ended up being the right idea to go out to the mound because Ruben Neabla had already gone out. The Padres pitching coach. They already had their conversation. And when that happens, I might give you a leash of like maybe two more hitters, depending on how the matchups go, depending on where the left he is. And I just think on that 90 feet to the mound, I think he kind of had a brain fart.

I don't see any reason knowing Craig the little bit that I know him. I feel like if he was like, holy cow, I just completely forgot that we had another mound visit, I think he would have said it. So I'm going to go on the side of Craig had a brain fart. You know, Padres. How about you? I want to say Padres fans were just people on socials were like, I thought way too rude. Like, oh, Bueller stinks. Take them out. I'm like, he's filled a nice role for San Diego this year. There's definitely been some good starts and some bad ones. But I mean, the ERA's in the mid-force. He's eaten a ton of meanings for a rotation that a couple points had just about nothing. Now of course, yeah, here comes Nick Povetta. I know Musgrove's gone through his issues still. They've lost a number of guys throughout the course of the season. Remember last year, I mean, if you looked at this rotation heading into this year, you were like, oh, they have Darvish, they have Musgrove, they have Padres, they have. But here comes Walker Bueller eating innings.

So I just want to give him some credit there. I know it wasn't his day necessarily yesterday. But I mean, even pretty sure the start before I think was the Yankee start, right? Yeah, five innings, one run, two walks, six punchouts. Like, there's been some good moments for Walker Bueller. Congrats, football season is back and Fabletics knows all about it. They just paired with the number one wide receiver in the NFL, Jamar Chase on a new collection. Yeah, he's gonna catch some footballs. You're gonna catch some deals when you go to Fabletics because this is all affordable stuff, but the quality is through the roof. Comfortability, like it is ridiculous. Go for it. Yeah, it's about feeling good all day and you need to feel more comfortable in your athletic clothing since you're wearing it. All day, it's not just at the gym anymore and Fabletics is spot on with that theory. Shop now at Fabletics.com slash foul to get 70 to 80% off everything when you sign up as a new VIP. And yes, that includes the new Jamar Chase collection.

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I just want to talk about it. Plus, we've been taking your calls, listening to your voice mail and giving advice or at least trying to. So if you've got catching up to do now is the perfect time. Listen to Hey Jonas on the I heart radio app Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast. Hey, the Yankees one day really after judge comes back, place jazz chism on the I L, a sprained right thumb for him. So he's going to be shut down from baseball activities for the next seven to 10 days. Can we show the other one too? We'll get both and then get the thoughts from the two Lambert Jr. George was asked if it's awkward for Anthony Volpe getting called back up. Volpe's been hitting well in the minors right now. Lambert said, we're all in the baseball world. We know the baseball world is like anything can happen excited to have him excited to work together. I mean, AJ, sure, you can ask the question, but what do you want the kid to say? Also, it's his teammate. I mean, he wants to win. And I don't think Lambert's too worried about Volpe stealing his job long term at this point. He had a four year lead. It's not happening. Lambert's the shortstop of the future. I mean, what's he supposed to say?

Yeah, he sucks. He's a bad teammate. We don't want him here. I mean, he pretty much said it the best he could say it. I mean, in the back of your mind, you always know this. And I tried to explain this to people in crats. Crats, I'm pretty sure would agree with me on this. It's pretty easy to get to the big leagues, the easy in a relative sense. It's really hard to stay in the big leagues because when you are in the big leagues and you are a big league shortstop, there is every shortstop in every minor lead system trying to take your job. Then if you play long enough, there's kids in high school in college. Heck, if you play as long as certain people did, you know, 1920, 20 years, there's kids that, heck, aren't even born yet that are coming up that aren't even, they're trying to take your job by the time you get to the end. So it is a constant battle. And if you have someone in your own team and you're worried about them taking your job, you're probably not in the right job. You remember the movie Days of Confused? I'm not going to repeat the line, but he said it this way and we used to say it about baseball. If you think you got a job in the big leagues, someone stays the same age.

Every year, there's another 18 year old prospect. Sometimes 16 year old prospect is coming in an organization that's going to take your job. So if you don't produce, he gone. They're going to get somebody else. And Volpy, to me, still a positive big league player, is he the franchise? Is he the next? No, he might have to roll into that utility role. He can still field it. Maybe second base is better for him. But just like Lambert said, hey, you got to work with somebody new now. Yeah, he's going to rack some wins up here if you're the Yankees and try and go as deep in October as possible. And then Lambert's going to get the chance to run with this thing for the next several years if he's got it, right? The tools are there for Volpy utility or maybe he ends up on a different team. You made a few adjustments in the minor leagues, see if it applies to the big leagues. Hey, congratulations to Jose Altov, a 2500 career hits in his 16th season.

AJ, can he get to 3000 or are we too deep into the career here? Bueller? Yes, I would say. I'm muted, sorry. Oh, okay. I told you I'm sick and I keep coughing and sneezing, so I'm trying to immuted whenever possible. But 100% I think he gets there. I think he's going to play long enough. He's going to get there in an Astro's uniform. I also think Freddie Freeman will get there. But those might be the last two you see for a really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really long time. Yeah, Freeman's at 2005-87. 102 human beings in history have made it to 2500 career hits. That's a lot of heads. How many catchers? How many catchers have got 2500? Ask yourself that. How many? Zero? I think there's only one. I think Pudge is the only one. But there might be two. I thought Pudge was the only one. He's the only one to get to 2500.

I believe so. Wow. It's so tough to do catcher any position because you got to be in the big leagues early. What was Pudge? 1920, when he was in the big leagues. That is so tough to do. AJ, you played for 19 seasons. I think you were like, what, like, 290 hitter in the big leagues and you got 2000 hits. So the catching position, we're never going to see a 3000 hit catcher. Just to do that, you're going to have to be like a Yordon Alvarez type. Really can do everything. You can still drive the ball. You still hit 300. But even then, with so much power, they're going to start walking them. They're going to start walking them and putting them on. He started his career early. Maybe I guess if I were to choose somebody there, there would be the spot. That's just, it's so tough to do. That's why Pudge's name has popped up again recently since Salis came up. Ethan Salis for the Padres, right?

Because he was the youngest to pop up as a catcher since Pudge, 1991. Ethan Salis needs to get one hit first. Before you can worry about 2500 hits. That's fair. First one's hard. First one's hard. All right, people. Let's slap. Last minute we have, bring up something wild and crazy. Mark Finsand, reporter for MLB.com in an article mentioned that Spencer Strider was part of the discussions that the Braves had with the Rangers for Jacob DeGrom. Okay. I would be excited with the Braves thinking him. I honestly thought they would make a big move with Schwelombok being hurt. I know Schwelombok's got a much cheaper, brighter future in a sense of like fear full of

Strider never coming back. But, whoo, that, either those guys. That would have been big. And DeGrom would have slotted in quite nicely into a rotation that may need some help. Yeah. And Strider's making some money. Is he making a lot of money? No. But maybe to offset some money that would be coming towards the Braves that would have happened. But DeGrom vetoed it. All right. We're out of here. But yeah. We'll stay on YouTube. Hi, this is Kylie Breakman. Angel Jaretana. Jeremy Colhane, Patrick McDonald. And we're the hosts of the artists on artists on artists on artists podcast. The improvised character comedy podcast were each week a new panel of artists discuss their craft. Join us for a panel of Eurovision participants. And we do a little Halloween sometimes. Does the Pope dress up? He, he winks on Halloween. It's right up next to the microphone. You get up. I hear you get the elbows here. The eyelashes hit each other.

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