Ben Johnson is ready to come home with a win (Hour 4)

0:00Phil, Sophically, what I believe in is similar to a blast from the past named John Shoeop and that is to make same things look different and different things look the same. All right, we want the defense on their heels. We're always going to be attacking on offense. We're going to make things very challenging on the defense each and every week. Welcome back. It's Han Patent, Chicago Sports Radio 1043, the score. Ruthie Polinsky in for Jared Payton today, beautiful Friday morning in the city. And it's a pleasure now to go out to the plumbers 911 hotline. Plumbing emergency call 1-833-plumb 911, local 130 plumbers. Get the job done right the first time. You heard Ben Johnson on the day that he was introduced as the Bearshead coach back in January of 2025. I've referenced somebody that is I've known for a long time since he was a Bears offensive coordinator. And now it's a thrill that he is still in football coaching successfully.

1:04And he is the head coach of the Nordic Storm, the European League champions. Coming off a championship season. John Shoeop, mentor to Ben Johnson, joins us now. Good morning, John. How are you? Good morning, David. Good morning, Ruthie. Thanks for having me on. It's great to talk to you. You must have a lot of pride in what Ben Johnson accomplished in his first season as a head coach. You were the offensive coordinator at North Carolina. Ben Johnson was a walk on quarterback who apparently had all the answers to the test. And he obviously was an intense guy then. He's still an intense guy now, John. How I don't think you were surprised, but how have you felt seeing him succeed in this first season in Chicago? Well, it was amazing to watch. I mean, I'm a fan of the Bears like so many. And of course, to have your feelings invested in the head coach the way I do when Ben just, it was exhilarating for me.

2:04I mean, that throw against the Rams that Caleb Williams had. I, you know, I won as crazy as anybody did. I think it's just how Ben drew it up, right? Right. Exactly. John, I'm curious when you see Ben sort of turn into, you know, I know you've known him for so long, but you see him sort of embody maybe everything he's ever envisioned of what a head coach should be. What has it been like for you to sort of watch it come to life, whether it be him with the death stare on the sidelines during the games or taking his shirt off in the locker room? Like, what was, what were all of those moments like for you for someone who's known Ben, you know, since he was just a young college player? Well, the shirt off was a little bit surprising for me. I'll say this, you know, this is, Ben, a fellow is a very serious business and it's run by very serious people. And Ben is very serious about football, about offense, about relationships with

3:09players. He's, he's such a mature person who handles just every aspect of the job, you know, admirably, but also just in a very professional manner, the shirt off with standing, you know, which was a blast to watch. We're talking with John Schoep, the former Bears offensive coordinator going way back to 2001 here on the score. And John, you remember people of a certain age, Bears fans never will forget that 2001 season. It was a long time ago, but I think it's an interesting historical reference because of what you guys did that year. You surprised everybody. Much the way last year the Bears surprised a lot of people. That was the run in Schoep offense, people will remember. You called the plays and then 2002 happened. And it, things fell kind of off, off track. And I don't know. There are a lot of things that contributed to injuries and

4:11otherwise. But if you had to talk to coaches, whether it's Ben Johnson or just anybody on that staff this year about handling success or getting to the point where you don't make the mistakes that sometimes teams do after a successful season, how would you address that? Yeah. Well, you know, I think coaches throughout the NFL and in college, you know, there's good situations and there's bad situations. In 2001 was a great situation. You know, that roster was really built by coach Geron and Mark Katley, both of whom have passed on. And everybody was kind of pooling in the same direction. We had a formula for how to win games. Now that 2002 season, you know, the roster started to evolve. You know, Jerry Angelo, a very fine general manager, he came in in that 2001 season,

5:13but his fingerprints weren't really on that roster. And you know, our situation changed. I'm just not sure. Jerry and Dick kind of saw football the same way or had the same formula. And so the one benefit that has is it seems like ever from the outside looking in. And trust me, I'm on the outside looking in, but it seems like everybody in that organization is pooling in the same direction. And you know, there's a lot of really good coaches. In my opinion, that are in rough situations. And sometimes, you know, going seven and nine is a pretty good coaching job. And then there's some coaches who I think are kind of average maybe, but they're just in great situations, riding the coattails of a great situation. And I think Chicago has a chance to have a great coach

6:13and an organization. It seems to me that's pooling all in the same direction. And you know, to outsiders, that may seem like common sense, but, godly, you know, inside, inside the room, inside the walls of a NFL building, it's really been more commonplace to me for people to have different agendas, pooling in different ways. And I think that's where Ben and Ryan Poles, who I've never met before, but have deep respect for, they seem to be on the same page, pooling in the same direction. That's a tremendous advantage. And again, this isn't me making excuses or anything like that. It's just if the vision of the whole organization isn't aligned, doesn't matter how good of a coach you are. The other thing I'll say in 2002, after 2001 is, you know, we also

7:16had to go play and champagne. And so having 16 away games really, because they were renovating soldier field was, with tough, but I understand soldier field the whole other topic. That's not going to be easy. We're not going there with you coach. Coach, I wanted to ask you about what you think it's going to be like for Ben to go back to North Carolina this weekend. I think obviously someone who has deep roots there, and I know you have roots there as well. And will he ever take a moment to get unserious for a minute and reflect on maybe how far he's come? Well, that's a good question to ask Ben. I'm in Nashville, North Carolina. I'm just about a mile down the road from where his mom and dad live and his sister, is the assistant principal at our, you know, local high school here. I'm sure there's going to be a

8:20big contingent of, you know, people from Nashville that are headed down to the game. Charlotte's about two hours from where we are. I'm also pretty sure Ben's going to have his blinders on, and isn't even going to look up until that last whistle. There may be some good pictures. You know, on Facebook that a sister sends me or something like that after the game, but I'm pretty sure there's not going to be any before the game. No one Ben. Will you be there? I'm not going to be there. I just got back, I just got back into town from Europe and, well, figured I better spend this first weekend here at home. Yeah. My wife. I think it's good. I think it's a good plan, John. I think that's, as after a successful season in Europe. So you were the head coach of the Nordic storm, the European, and you won the European League championship recently. Was that last weekend?

9:20It was August 29th with the final game. And, you know, the European football alliance is the league that we're in. And it's about like our team would be a really good college level team. We'd beat a lot of college teams. Our team would probably be about a top 40 college team. It's professional football. It's really good football, getting better every year. And this is my fifth year in Europe. And, you know, it's, it's really fun. You know, the likes of Jack Del Rio were over there this season. Jim Tom Soule has been back and forth. You know, so there's more and more people from the NFL getting involved. Our defense coordinator was Mark Delion, who's a long time NFL coach as well. It's a good brand of football. Really fun. If you're ever over there, our season is in the summer. Come on over to Copenhagen. That's a great ad, John, for European League football. So,

10:22have you had any interaction with Ben since last season ended in terms of just congratulating him on the success in year one? And I imagine you said you lived down the road from his family. There's got to be a lot of local pride in what the Bears accomplished. Well, there's a lot of local pride. A lot more Bear jerseys and hats and stuff like that around here. But I will say, you know, going into the championship game on August 29th, you know, I texted a lot of friends. There's still coaching some even playing in the NFL. And we put together a video of, you know, different personalities, wishing our team luck kind of sending them a message. And, you know, one of my favorite ones was just Ben with that very serious attitude. Looking at every member of our team in the eye saying, you know, you've earned this now. Go get it. Now, I mean, his message was really strong. So that's the last that I've talked to Ben. And

11:27you guys know as well as I do, I could, I could text Ben a hundred times here between now and Thanksgiving. He's probably not going to look at his phone until the end of the playoffs. No doubt about it. He's going to be all business. That's the intensity that I think we saw last year. And what makes him such an excellent head coach, John, though, as a coach, as a guy that is an offensive genius and you look at and you understand the schemes, you understand the value of the quarterback and all the ways that you can get guys open. How do you look at the Bears offense this year and their ability to be the kind of juggernaut that Ben Johnson envisions them being? What is about the Bears offense that you think makes it unique? Yeah. Well, I think they have a really creative run game. I mean, I got to tell you our staff just absolutely studied their run game. I must have watched their run game, their game against Philadelphia last year. I must have watched

12:30that tape a hundred times because Vick Pagio is a pretty good coach. And, you know, run wise, if you can run the ball in that league, you can protect your quarterback, you can put defenses in conflicts of assignment. You could do a lot of different things. And, you know, as long as they're able to run the ball and then the other thing that I just think is unbelievable, tale of Williams can really throw the ball on the move. So some of those runs with play action passes off of it. It's one thing to do it when you've got a quarterback who, you know, is it can certainly play action and can certainly exercise, you know, the art of deception. But when you got a guy also that can pick up a third down with his feet, you know, I was watching the Patriots the other night and I know Drake made through three interceptions in

13:35the fourth quarter. I know that. But he also picked up about two or three third down conversions in the first half that kind of a gun that really picks up a play collar. And I don't think there's a more intimate relationship in all the sport, in all the sport, in a play collar, in a quarterback. And it seems like, you know, from the outside looking in again for what it's worth. Caleb's got bends back, bends got Caleb's back and the organization's all pulling in the same direction. So if you can run the ball, you can kind of protect your quarterback as well. And I think a growth edge for him for the Bears this year. And I'm sure Ben's all over it is, you know, just some concepts from the pocket, you know, I'm sure Caleb's going to be just a lot better at true drop back passes with six or five man protections from the pocket. And but again, when your quarterback

14:40can run on third down and pick up a first down, it's kind of like finding money in the pocket. You're like, okay, thank you. Okay, here we go onto the next one. It's awesome. It's really been a beautiful story and development to be able to watch sort of Ben and Caleb relationship start from where it was last year where there were certainly times where I think Caleb was scared of Ben and Ben was sort of like, uh-oh, what am I working with here? And to sort of see where they are now where they're just in lockstep. It's just been really cool to see. Coach, I wanted to ask you, if other than Caleb Williams, I would say, is there one player on the Bears offense that you're really looking forward to seeing maybe take another step this year? Yeah, well, of course Caleb's fantastic and like any fan, I can't wait to watch him. You know, leveling the tight end, what Ben does with tight ends in their offensive staff, it's not just Ben, it's the whole offensive staff is so creative that as a coach,

15:45you know, I kind of like to watch, okay, is he in a three point here? He's in the two point here, he's detached here, is he cracking the end here? I mean, these guys can really paralyze edge pass rushers with just splits and techniques. So he's a fun guy to watch. And then like everybody else, I really think, I want to pronounce his name correctly, Roman Dusey, that the wide out from Washington is, you know, due to take the big step, I'm really rooting for him to kind of be that first round draft pick wide out. I've ever reason to believe that it can be, especially with a guy like, you know, Ben and their whole staff leading them. So like everybody, I mean, those are kind of the guys that I watch and I got to tell you that running back to is number 25 because he run harder, am I crazy? I'm a non guy. Seven round payout of Rutgers. Yep, little guy. He kind of just runs,

16:49runs hard. I was helping my daughter, Mary Lizbeth with her fantasy football team the other day. I said, I can and he showed up on one of the list. And I'm like, I'm gonna tell you, I think Ben's gonna hand that guy the ball down in the red. I love it. Mary Lizbeth, you might want to think about John, he has a Fulminsons high school. Oh, knock on wood now. Son of a gun. He fumbles this week and the whole thing is Chicago's coming down on you. I know that. I know that. That's okay. He's awesome. John is such a pleasure talking with you. Really appreciate your time. So great. The European championship coach of the Nordic storm, John Schoep, former Bears offensive coordinator. Have a great weekend. Enjoy the season. Look forward to talking again. Thank you so much, John. I appreciate you all. John Schoep joining us here on the score. That's awesome. That's fun. He was like Ben's coach at North Carolina. Yeah. The offensive coordinator. You notice how he came to Drake May's defense to another UNC guy. No, the UNC guy. You knew that was gonna be the case. That was coming. Yeah, that's a great. Oh, that's awesome. It's cool context. It's like humanizing

17:51to hear someone talk about Ben in a way for someone who's known him forever. It feels like a mile down the road from his parents and his sister's the assistant principal at the high school. It's great. It's great. All right. We're going to be back to wrap things up. But the next segment we're going to hear from all of our experts in the past week who have given us all of their predictions and all of the analysis of bears and panthers. We'll do what next when we come back. It's the hot Peyton show. Ruthie Polinsky in for Jarrett Chicago's Portrait. You'll one or four three the score. Oh, knock on wood now. David Hawn, Jared Peyton got you ready for the Chicago Bears week one match up against the Carolina Panthers with this week's expert analysis from former Bears head coach Dave Wunstein. The bears are going to win. I'll start there. I expect them to be a little bit better test than what anyone is really talking about for the bears. You know, and I have no idea about terrorized offense. They were 27th in the NFL last year guys. They were in the bottom five teams

18:56worst teams in the NFL. Dan Wheederer. I haven't gotten a score yet. I think I'm probably going to take the bears by four. Subjected change by the time we get to our official take the North score. But I'm going to go 27-23. NFL Network reporter Stacy Dales. They've got to figure out who they are. There's going to be a lot of unscripted action on Sunday in Carolina, which is a team that looks entirely different. And there's a whole level of layers to how different they look. But it's certainly going to be a, you know, learning curve week one jump to kick this thing off. Chris Chelios. I'm going with bears. You know that. I'll never bet against them. Play Harbor. I'd say 27-20 bears. They come up with a couple of turnovers here. Chicago Tribune Bears Beat reporter Brad Biggs. I have questions about the defense. I expect to probably have them over the course of the entire season. But with their offensive line, their ability to run the football. They're healthy in the backfield. That's important. I've got bears

19:5630-28. Joe Fortenbach. I have not bet this game. But I do believe you have a pro contingent that's going to line up on Carolina here. This is very much probably going to be the pros versus Joe's game of the week. I think you're going to have the public on the Ravens and some of the sharps on the Colts. I think you're going to have the public all over the bears in this matchup. And then you're going to have pros lining up on Carolina. Mike Palm. I grabbed the two-and-a-half because I thought the game would close three. You know, we actually went to three-and-a-half Wednesday morning. If you had to start on the road, I think it's a pretty good landing spot for the bears. Jared Payton. I'm going with the bears here, man. I don't care what anybody says. Bears are going to win this game 27-23. But I think what we're going to be talking about on Monday is how the run game was established early on. That's how you're going to win this game. And the bears win against the Carolina Panthers. More reaction from Hawn Payton and you, the listeners on 104-3, the score. The home for Bears fans.

20:56Welcome back. It's Hawn Payton with Ruchy Polinsky in for Jared today. 104-3, the score on this football Friday. You're listening to a four seasons heating air conditioning plumbing sewer and electric football Friday presented by your local four dealers and advent. You heard all the predictions. Let's restate ours in case somebody wasn't listening at 6.45 this morning when we shared them on the pick six. I was mocked. Well, scoffed. You scoffed. I said 31-27 bears and you don't think they're going to score 31 points. You're the same person. It's that. But it's also I don't think the Panthers are going to score 27 points. The Rams scored seven. They're in Australia and jet lagged. It's week one. I think it's more. I don't know about the jet lag. I think we're going to learn more about that as the season progresses. But it's more to me that it's week one and Matthew Stafford didn't play in the preseason. I think what I was looking at in 31-27 was that the Bears defense is going to be very vulnerable. But the offense is something that they're

22:00going to they're going to match the Panthers score for score until the fourth quarter when they get the final one. It would be fun to watch. I would like that game. Why? I'm just looking forward to the sexy offense. I do like a sexy offense. You did call that earlier. I said I predict I don't know if it's going to be sexy week one. Okay. To clarify. I think it might be a little rough week one. A little homely. Yeah. Just a little you work out the kinks. And so that's that's why I went lower scoring than you did. I have the Bears winning 23-20. Okay. 23-19. That's the under. The total is what is the total 46-ish? I think we think Joe said Joe Fortenbaugh said. And a half. Okay. 46 and a half. All right. Dustin, what was your prediction again? Remind us. 24-13 bears. That sounds more like double-digit victory in week one is something that you can build on. I think that's a little bit high in terms of expectations. Run game. Roll the clock. Okay. Roll the clock. 13 points for the defense. I think the defense is more susceptible to.

23:04But it's because the offense is holding out of the ball. That's the best run game is the best defense for the past. Fair enough. Brandon? I took the under. You guys have been talking about his preseason, not enough preseason games, a little rusty first week. So I got it 24-16 bears. I got coast and leveling with two touchdowns. Wow. Tuddies. I had one. I said, and I think Swift has a touchdown. It's trendy to say that coast and leveling is going to lead tie-dens and catches in touchdowns this year around the week. And not just Clay Harbor believes that. I've seen that expressed elsewhere by non-former tie-dens in the NFL. And it speaks to just how versatile he is. John Schoep, our guy talked about him being one of those players he mentioned first in terms of the bears offensive players ready to take that next step. That next step for coastal loved one would be one that he began in the second half of last season. First half was non-descript. Wasn't he? Remember he was coming off shoulder surgery. Yeah. He had remembered like he didn't

24:05do the he didn't participate in the combine. That was sort of why people thought maybe he had fallen a little bit in the draft in that Tyler Warren was going to be go higher than he was. And then he didn't participate in any of the offseason program. He was ready to go for training camp, but it was a slower start. And he really didn't have his coming out game until that mangle's game. And then from there it was lights out. It was lights out. I'm looking forward to the broadcast. Won't be at the game. Adam Amin drew breeze drew breeze on Caleb Williams is something I'm looking forward to hearing him describe also drew breeze. Frankly on Bryce Young a quarterback who is smallish in stature the way drew breeze was not to ever compare those two necessarily, but I just look forward. I think drew breeze has a lot of insight to offer. I know he wasn't in the greatest spot doing college football. I think of do a better job analyzing NFL offences. I'm looking forward to that broadcast. Adam Amin was on the charter podcast with Clay Harbor and I

25:09yesterday to help us preview the game. And then Adam Amin also was on the afternoon show here. And I heard it was after they had had their production meeting I guess with Caleb. And Adam shared something about what drew breeze's advice was to Caleb and the difference in passurating. Or the difference in completion percentage can really be three completions which like puts things in perspective for a young quarterback who's like I don't know there's right the audio is but I'm paraphrasing to horrific. So basically but basically saying like little things take the easy throw your completion percentage is going to skyrocket. You can just take those easy throws. I think 70s a bit unrealistic. 70s crazy. I don't think he needs to be a 70% positive. But 58 is something you can improve on that was that's what he was last year. Yeah it was the worst. So if he's low 60s I think people will take that if the bears win 10 or more games. 100%. So that's the that's the key thing to remember. You don't want him being so cautious that he's worried about his

26:13completion percentage and he's not taking shots down the field. I think you saw little of that frankly in the Drake may experience the other night. Very careful. Very deliberate. I mean very cautious. Everything was okay I'll think here I'll dunk it there. Did you are you are you taking me up to bring up the Boston radio? That's right. Okay. A Boston radio that you love so much. Well no no no. No these favorite radio shows are all embossed. I know I'm not. Obviously I've spent time in New England and that was really my first introduction to like real sports talk radio. Obviously I love sports talk radio in Chicago. I'm sitting here talking on it but my former colleague Mark Dundero and this blew up. I'm sure a lot of people saw this. My former colleague Mark Dundero went bananas on the Patriots post game show on 98 five the sports hub up in Boston and it made the rounds on Twitter. Barstool picked it up like it's everywhere now and he

27:16was talking about exactly that David that Drake may like all he was doing was like high school level throws and that's all well and good until you throw three picks in the fourth quarter right like I think you have to have a balance but I highly recommend everyone go listen to Mark Dundero. If you're going to take that approach as a quarterback you want to be able to have that building towards something. Yeah. So you're being cautious and efficient and accurate in the first three quarters something Caleb Williams needs to improve upon everyone agrees on that during this off season conversation but the fourth quarter you still got to be special. Yeah. Drake May wasn't special. No. On that night he could be you know he's a good quarterback. He was second in MVP last year. He's going to bounce back from this but that was a bad way to start the season because he also was going against a defense that is one of the top five in in the NFL. The Patriots had multiple opportunities to win that game in the fourth quarter and Drake May couldn't get it done.

28:20When you have Caleb Williams in the fourth quarter you are just going to feel like this year there's a chance that he can get it done more than more than good chance. No doubt about it. Bears Panthers noon on Sunday will be here to talk about it all Monday morning plenty of ways it could go every all of us. If the Bears lose that will be the biggest surprise of I think of the day. We're going to find out if Mark Grote picked the Panthers. Oh. Was it he going to maybe pick the Panthers? Oh we'll have to ask that. No that was game Ramirez. Game picks the Panthers. And Gabriel Mirrez will be doing the overnight live overnight Sunday into Monday. Oh. That's it all man. Hopefully Gabe is going to have a big old plate of credit. Where can I where can I pick up Crow? Where can I see it all here? Where should I like should I stop? There's a 24 hour McDonald's not far from my house that every morning I stop it to get my sweet tea to get my day going. Should I bring him some chicken nuggets? I would know

29:22where to get that Dustin. I never had to make a Crow Crow and put like Crow on the box. Hand that to him on you Gabe Ramirez. Gabe Gutsie. Gutsie. Gabe. Pick the Panthers. He's objective as a fan. He's an objective fan. I don't know. I think if you're picking the Panthers you need to like not be a Bears fan. Hold on. We'll get back to that thought in a second. Oh yeah. Okay. Yeah. We'll get back to that thought in a second. Mr. that's a tease. That's a tease. I want to get to this first. You mentioned Crow. Pete Crow Armstrong has Pete Crow Crunch. We want to share with the audience. You see it here on the video stream. Pete Crow Crunch is a product of Tybaloo the president of Tybaloo. It's he Baloo sports in Pittsburgh but they're putting together a Pete Crow Armstrong cereal.

30:23Much like the Anthony Rizzo cereal from several years ago and they were always like Rizzo's. They were like Jerry's but they were Rizzo's. This is a toasty sweet cinnamon square cereal. Are we going to sample? I don't know if we should open up that box. I know. That could be your MVP right there. I don't know if I want to open the box. Cereal box. He's got a nice little logo there. The PCA logo on his shirt and looks like Pete Crow Armstrong or some of the Pete Crow Armstrong cartoon character. Now you can go to Pete Crow Crunch.com and buy a box of Pete Crow Crunch cereal and all the proceeds, all the funds will be directed toward the Boys and Girls Club of Chicago. So it's not just a PCA trying to get rich scheme or anything like that. It's cereal for a cause. Love it. Chicago Boys and Girls Club. Pete Crow Crunch.com can't vouch for how it tastes. We're not going to open it and find out. No. It's a very cool thing though and something that is reflective of the kind of special year he's

31:28had. He's four steals away from 40 40. He could get that over the weekend against the Pirates Per Has. Pawskins Clay Holmes tomorrow. Today showed him a nagga on the Mount Pregame right here on the score 1245. Zach builds a bridge to Pat and Ron. Keep it right here. And then the White Sox big series on CHSN. They go down to St. Louis your hometown, which you're going to be at tomorrow. You're going to be in St. Louis first. I'm going to host the pre and post game show with Ozzy tonight here in Chicago. You got a long day. That's all right. I'm feeling great. Total respect. You got a long day and then you got that fancy coffee order you had probably helped out. Right. We were goofing around about Jared's coffee order. And then you said, well, I'll then I'm going to do an online order because my coffee order is goofy. I can't be goofier than Jared's coffee order. No, I don't think it is goofier than Jared. But it's very specific. So I'm not putting that on Dustin. Let me just do it. It's a little interesting. So I just did a order pickup. What I did today, this is sort of new for me. I'm trying this this week. I kind of like to switch up my coffee.

32:29You know I'm a pumpkin spice cow just like yourself. I do. This I'm sort of on a trying to be clean eating this week. Okay. I do an iced dope. Yo espresso. So I do a triple shot on ice and a venti cup actually an eventi cup with extra ice. So it's just three shots of espresso on ice with lots of ice because I like lots of ice. And then I pour a I brought from home a protein shake that I put in to make sort of like a protein latte. Okay. Very big on the macro situation here. So that's my coffee order. But it was like but I like the blonde espresso and I like extra ice in a venti cup. I'm fully convinced that you ordered that yourself because you did not want Dustin to screw it up. I haven't screwed up Jared. No, I haven't. But that's okay. I completely complicated everything. It was anybody would screw it up. Not just just it. This is a complicated complicated. I just screwed it up trying to explain it to you. Okay, we got a minute left. So I want to get to this. You were chastising people for betting against the bears if they

33:33thought the pantsers were going to beat them. You are actively slightly different, slightly different. During the show on company time, by the way, distracting yourself from the program betting on the Cubs and the White Sox to both miss the playoffs. I should have done it sooner. I should have done it sooner because the odds change. So it odds of plus 14,158 odds of plus 14,158 for the Cubs and the White Sox to both miss the postseason. A five dollar bet pays just north of seven hundred dollars. That's not betting against them. Picking the authors to beat the bears. Yes, it is. Very different. It was a topic that we were reeling. Cubs were reeling from the rear end kicking they got from the brewers. And the Sox, Ruthie pointed out, I up to one. The Sox have lost eight of 11. They're one and a half over the guardians. They got three games

34:33to go with them. This is just interesting. I want them both to make the postseason. But I'll feel a lot better if I have seven hundred dollars to play with the NFL season. I think it's very different than Gabe Ramirez picking the Panthers to win the one against the bears. I love game on you. Gabe Ramirez. You know, you know, who's laughing at you right now, though, Brandon, because he got a better deal. I did get a better deal. I see. No one took it when I took it. I took it last week. Now it is spreading out here in the whole score. So it is. You got Dustin now betting it. We got Ryan Porf who's back here. Oh my God. Just Jared already bet on it. David. Come on. I know. You guys, you guys kill me. As I said yesterday, you're so superstitious. The other way. So superstitious. The other way, David. I'm watching the show. That them both to make the playoffs. That them both to make the playoffs. I don't want to win much. No, I don't think your five dollars could be $13. And $57. My five dollars could be. You might be able to afford Ruthie's coffee. Not Jared's, but Ruthie's. I'm not prepared to go there.

35:40On September. September 11th. I don't think the white socks and the cubs. I don't feel very confident about saying they're both going to make the playoffs right now. I would love to be more confident than I feel. But the socks are. Socks are really. They just got swept by the pirates. The cubs haven't once in Saturday. I don't feel great about that. Actually, you couldn't even buy any. $77. $5 gets you $77. Really? Yeah. That's the second to give us anything. Right. So you've been around this gambling enough, David. That's a bad market. Yeah. That's a bad market. Thank you for explaining it to me. You're welcome. Yeah. Thank you. Dustin. All right. We got to get the transition. When we come back, it will be Rahimi and Grotee. Laila and Mark in to talk to Ruthie and I. It's on page. The cubs sports radio. 104 through the score.