BAES 148: Details of Altman Attack are WILD

0:00Increased violence in the world of EI artificial intelligence. He said he wanted to quote burn it down and kill anyone inside Um, I'm quitting Anthropic because of what I've seen and I'm retiring to the Irish countryside to write poetry A hugger family now, and there's one more thing and he unveils It might it might when they kill everybody I'm looking at time with them in me Tell me what's going on Tell me what's going on So listen up Don't beg me Tell me what's going on Tell me what's going on Well folks, don't say anything about that. We're back everybody. Stay tuned for the coming of the week. We're bringing that back Uh, we're just going to dive right in. We got a lot to cover here a lot to cover. We're going to be going over the

1:06increased violence in the in the world of These people man the details that came out about the the Molotov cocktail attack on Sam Altman's house are Wild stuff and subsequent Shooting yeah, and some subsequent gun gun attack on he house And we're going to be talking all about uh, some some updates in the AI world. We've got Elon Musk and You know, it's so funny that this isn't even getting coverage Elon Musk is going to court against open AI with a jury A dang jury trial The rural juror the rural juror. Oh, is that supposed to be a tongue twister? It's that 30 rock thing. It's in my head because we're gonna talk right in the bonus bed And you know, if we got time, we're going to be talking about uh, the man oh man. This Ashley St. Clair Elon Musk baby mama Here's like, well, maybe mama if you sent the sperm through the male Yeah, cuz he's still she still give birth to the baby. For sure

2:07But before we get into all of that, let's give you a little bit of an update on that thing going on over there The war in Iran. They sent they sent our nation's best JD Vance and two corrupt real estate tycoons yeah uh, and including the president's Moran son-in-law it's And it didn't go well. It didn't go well. It's also one of those things where obviously we we started the show with an intention to have Fun and funny takes on these things and it I don't you remember the show Veepe Who could forget? I I don't know if it was I don't know if it was the creator Armando Aynucci or a producer because I think Armando Might have even left before the end of it, but I remember they ended it around the time Donald Trump got elected and Someone either the creator or one of the producers was basically like There's nothing left for us here anymore. You know, like you've mentioned that. Yeah, we've we've done It's not even parody. Yeah, the real the real life is funnier than we could ever imagine. Yeah, and

3:13We're experiencing a bit of that with Trump's latest moves where He is now so failed negotiations with Iran Trump's big brain move is Since they can't Open the straight of her moves, which they've been begging for and say needs to happen his move is now Well, we're blocking the straight. We're doing a naval blockade with the finest navy in the world where If you won't open it, we'll block it stick that in your pipe and suck on it and your pipe It doesn't it is unfortunate that he is just Doing things that are funnier than we could have ever imagined. I mean a lot of people online are going this is Our foreign policy is like a it's like a male Brooks movie or like a Like a Monty Python sketch or something. It's you won't open the straights when it keeps it closed It's do something with that. It's unbelievable. Also, it seems like it's not effectively closed with

4:16The big worry here was that okay, what happens if China for example tries to Make good on a deal. They've made with Iran where their ships will still be able to get through Is the US maybe actually going to Turn a Chinese tanker around turn around Chinese tanker or we don't want your passing through here So far it doesn't seem like that's the case it seems like Chinese Chinese Ships have gotten through yeah, and the American Navy has just gone Enjoy Enjoy the oil cut to the the American guys are eating um like chow mein and the Chinese ships are like waving You know because they've brought them with chow mein noodles How do you think it's a bribe? Yeah, I'm fucking I'd take that bribe They do an old-school style with like ropes between the ships Here's some you know I mean, whatever it takes I bet I don't know exactly I have no idea how the logistics of any of how it works with the stranded

5:20The ships that are just stuck in the straight or with bribes. I bet I bet they would probably take some Lomaine at this point. I'd be I mean, I remember when the the ILWU the um The dock workers union here in the port of Los Angeles went on strike. There were a couple big ones, but I remember in the in the early 2000s or like the late night. It was probably the early 2000s the big one There were dozens of ships just docked out on on the horizon. It was really really wild and They were they were coming up across similar issues is like okay, they're running out of supplies So they had smaller boats come and Either deliver supplies or just relieve the crews and Either swap them out or I don't know. So I don't know if they're doing that over there, but one thing Is for certain and I've talked about it on here and I said it man and I effing called it The market doesn't care any more not I did okay. They seem to love it It's at the all-time highs and I'm

6:22Bucking pissed at myself and I will cover it on stock to it's because I got him pissed Okay, Sunday night the futures markets opens and it opens way down almost one over one percent And then it starts to climb and it's only down three quarters of a percent and I was just like I know it's gonna fucking It's gonna turn green by Monday morning and sure enough it did and not only did it turn green It went up even beyond that and I didn't Make a trade even though my gut told me this is exactly what's gonna happen and I just I missed out on so much Potential profit and it's just this is the What sucks about trading is you can make a little money, but then you have to look at oh if I had just done Exactly what I thought would happen It's so fucking frustrating folks Do it yet. So in well, sorry real fast It speaks to what I've referred to I've said it countless times on the show

7:26If you are worried and you think that the world is about to end just look at what the market is doing Sometimes that's wrong because sometimes it's just a delay. Well, no, truly sometimes it's a delayed reaction But more often than not the market knows or the market is the true gauge of sentiment and the fact that the market just seems so counter to your whole Thing though like especially the COVID thing where it's like the market just could not Figure this out and you saw it coming And this feels so similar to me where it's like There was a difference the difference was it was not at all a mainstream Topic of discussion yet. It was just like some people were talking about it. Others were just being like Yeah, it's not a big deal. It's it's nothing. I think everybody has already gone through multiple cycles of analyzing and over analyzing and the straight being closed and The energy shock and all that stuff and I think ultimately it just goes to show that what we are being told and what

8:28Information is coming out of there is not a hundred percent accurate being told about what like the the the Because from what I can understand like the closure itself analyst I've seen are like I mean They say we're still living in a pre pre-closure world where We're filming this on April 14th April 15th is the day according to that JP Morgan thing where America the west coast of North America will get its last Shipments of oil. Yeah, that has already You're seeing does effects in Asian markets african markets Europe just got their last shipment April 10th I see the Uh, I see the EU commissioner come out like every other day to be like Please stay home We don't have much like I don't like please stay home That you know great. I'm glad the I'm glad the markets back up like I mean I had a weird personal situation where like

9:34Someone someone owed me some money and I called them Uh, this was probably like a week or so after February 28th. We're talking three figures or four figures Over a thousand dollars or a hundred thousand dollars what and Good man. I was like Or they brought it up and they were like yeah, just tell me tell me the information. I'll get it to you I just have to like move from Schwab or whatever and I was like wait is this an investment account and they were like Yeah, and I was like well fuck. It's a terrible. I don't I don't want you to send it now and they were like Yeah, I was gonna bring that up like my shit tank. I was like I'm never getting this money like I can't take it while you're getting founded and Now A week and I was like I Hit that cell but I don't know if it's all the S&P but it's a dollar off all time high and then yesterday I was like I think it's probably a good to and then literally today Uh, I went for it, but I don't I mean who knows I don't think we're out of the woods

10:38Maybe we are with the market, but in my mind the market the market is completely irrational and And it may never crash again The more I look at it. I'm like, maybe this is just something that's divorced from reality that the ownership class gets to get to invest in and K will be there will be a massive revolt among that class if All of their assets go down so it has to stay afloat and if You know if you can't get to work because Gasoline is nine dollars a gallon. Well, you can just go kick rocks. Sorry. I think it it would be who of us all to remember Especially with that and we've talked about it on here It's not the entire world's supply that goes through that straight. It's a good chunk of it. Yes 20% but you're already seeing which is massive, but you're already seeing Like I don't know if any of you guys have seen it, but there's a uh uh a screen grab of the like world ship Tracker thing showing this massive line that spans the globe

11:43Of tankers rerouting to the Gulf of Mexico. I'm not saying Gulf of America because it ain't the fucking Gulf of America Um, yeah, that is the hope that they can they can ramp up production elsewhere Yeah, but it does feel like there's gonna be a little bit of a bubble that will have to account for it either way Uh, and so I think that just feels a little odd that you would be um, it's that the market would be rallying at that But we'll see maybe it's it's again. It's uh and I guess I should kind of retract and say that it's not It doesn't mean that we're out of the woods and that there's no cause for concern. I think that just It's perhaps um I don't know hope I hopefully not going to be As prolonged and as disastrous as uh some might think well the fun thing is we'll get to find out in about seven to ten days Yeah, I think I forgot which strategy like I do want to be clear like there is a lot of turmoil in in these Asian countries I think people are like oh that's very far away and and whatever were immune to that like Some pretty

12:43Horrible stories of things reverberate around the world and um so Well in other news uh trump tweeted a photo of himself as uh Jesus Christ Literally Jesus Christ He thought he was a doctor. I don't know if you guys saw this but it's fucking bananas and it's I think it must have been made in part with AI I mean because the fighter jets when you zoom in look really weird and psychotic But then uh his response was um Pure gold if you go back to the dock and click his uh His response he was asked about it um during this door-dash stunt And let's hear what old Donnie T had to say about it Mr. President, did you post that picture on yourself to put it as Jesus Christ? Well, it wasn't to picture it was me. I did first it and I thought it was me as the doctor And had to do with Red Cross as a Red Cross worker there which we support and

13:44Only the fake news could come up with that one so I had I had uh I just heard about it and I said how did they come up with that It's supposed to be me as a doctor making people better and I do make people better. I make people A lot better as an example Actually sound of piss Donald Trump's piss. I am surprised he covering every mega uh Devoted it just right there's just going Just piss more piss sir I have some ice I mean that's a Red Cross worker Come on. I was surprised. They didn't blame someone. That's like usually blame the media He said only the only the fake news could come up with that. I did post it I'm surprised to even cop to that first. He said it's not a picture. I did post it That is a picture he did post it And then he said uh yeah, he said that guy could be a doctor Sure Hey guys, we gotta take a quick break. I'm talking to you about mud water, baby mud water, you know

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16:49W T R dot com after your purchase the last guy you found them. Please show your support and tell him we sent you Uh, it's just and it's it's I mean he really is a genius. He's got it on lock He's just on autopilot when he talks like this because he single-handedly made it the media's fault Which is enough to like make it the narrative It wasn't the the fake news media. It was literally everybody being like hey, this is psychotic The reason he took it down was because I think his own followers were Oh, yeah, some of them pissed about the the Depiction of him as Jesus. Yeah, and then the spooky like weird angel fucking. I mean, it's all there's can be It's yeah, there's gonna be so many Historians are gonna have a field day between Just just all these nobody's gonna believe them change And Fake images and then the very real did you see the images with him of and the videos of him with the Easter bunny?

17:51Yes, I mean what was threatening you're on 50 years from now you're learning about this in school and you're just watching a video Trump his crazy wife The Easter bunny in the whole suit and him just talking about Iran that videos of him talking to the kids about Joe Biden's auto pen and they're like, huh? I just Fans of history rejoice. It's it's a fun. It was very fun and entertaining to see Jack Pasobic and like Mike Cernovich just still still These these guys who are like supposedly devout Catholics and our our major major Catholic guys Just running defense for him because also he was he was Trashing the Pope so not only did Donald Trump trash the Pope the leader the ultimate Catholic They're like quarterback of the Catholics. Would you say but his Trump Catholic? I don't know if he's got no

18:52But these guys certainly are and they're like oh, so now the Pope is suddenly immune from criticism What I mean I truly don't know what it would take for these guys at this point there. It's just so pathetic I don't know the I don't know the denomination of Christian of all these guys Well, and then let's pull up some like because the the Pope was saying oh no, he's Presbyterian. It's all your sort of it and yes, yes, Catholic. They're like Roman Catholic Yeah, Catholics are the Jews of Christians, right? Why do you say that? They're like they're ostracized um There are definitely a smaller Like Christians are this many Catholics of this many. I don't think that's true Catholicism was like his huge the Christianity yeah, it was like all of the power was concentrated within the Pope and uh and the whole Infrastructure that went along with that and then you know the Protestant Reformation

19:56It'd be awesome to be the place. So I wouldn't say there that you I don't know I also don't know in what way you're saying that. I mean just like they're they're the the scapegoat 20% of us adults Identifies Catholic with the significant growing and increasingly diverse population good for them Uh, let's play that second video because the door dash grandma was the other thing that's all coincided with this They had this they tried it out this uh former smoker um um She's known as the door to ask grandma. She's got a shirt that says it and boy Howdy if this ain't just the Ultimate representation of um this entire white house is having someone who should be retired and enjoying her grandkids but she's got to work menial gig worker job Just to make ends meet she's also the one they tried out for all this kind of thing. Yeah, so hopefully they're they're giving her a little bit of money But here she comes delivering McDonald's to president fat

20:58Just knocking on the wall. Hey Donald. Hey Donald Wow nice to see you. I got a little door dash He looks drunk The reason for this is the fact that I heard you picked up an extra $11,000 at the end again because the tax bill was so big The refund is the biggest you ever had Apparently that's all bullshit too with the with the amount she makes she wouldn't even get taxed on This this skip to the second video where because it's just too good and we'll get to the AI stuff right after this They want to have men playing in women's sport. Do you think that men should play in women's sports? I really don't have an opinion on that you don't know. No. No. I'm here about his list. There's tax on tips

22:06I do hope Democrats watching this realize it can at least realize this is a loser for them Like no one gives a shit about this and you're falling into the trap like he's doing this uh He's doing this presser for it and he's trying to go to her and she's just like I honestly don't even fucking think about that shit and he's like I bet you do That's what we all think about it's one of our most popular things and I love that you can't really hear it But uh, he says you don't I bet you do and she says now I'm here about and he says pizza And then she goes no tax on tips Let's see if we can hear it I bet you do Oh shit opinion on that you don't know but you do Oh, I'm here about Your tax on tips pizza What a strange fucking just fucking you Donald Trump you you I just man. I hope you die sir Oh god good god can't wait until he fucking dies Oh anyway speaking of death

23:09Hmm Increased violence in the world of uh AI artificial intelligence um Sam Altman's house got attacked twice Uh the the the first one was was last week the second one was early Sunday morning when these two absolute dingbat moron fuckos Amanda Tom was 25 and Muhammad Hussein 23 pulled up to his house and shot a gun at it They haven't been like totally clear about They were probably going to do it. Yeah, it's it's weird. They they haven't apparently he's got a prior record for Shooting again. No purchasing uh purchasing tobacco products for a providers for like an undercover minor So that guy's kind of cool actually Oh, you're 17 you want me to buy you cigarettes? I got you Who among us hasn't played hey mister Oh, that's what oh, yeah, that's uh, did you play hey mister? No, I had a fake ID brother

24:13When you were what 18? Did you ever try to drink before you were 18? I didn't really care about it. I was smoking weed dude Okay, or not even that. I don't think anything. I was old enough to buy cigarettes. So yeah my my cool neighbor Would have cigarettes he would have new ports and I would go over there and smoke new ports Well, we're doing hey mister more for the booze not the damn not the alcohol Well, these people are stupid stupid people and they deserve to go to jail because if you shoot your gun at anybody's house That's a crime brella. You're going to jail brella Not only that but hey, you're you're you're you're going up to The the number one AI guy's house you don't think why are we starting with the second one that is much because I'm just getting it out of the way Because the cameras the security cameras You don't think they drove up in their own car what they didn't even bother covering or removing the license plates So the cameras got it. They were arrested like moments later Just total idiots

25:15And yes, Sam Altman wrote about the first one on his blog. Let's pull that up He uh, he did this uh, he starts it with a photo of himself and his husband with their baby By the way when he I hate this What you hate? Yes, look at the first line here's a photo of my family. I love them more than anything. It's just like Well, that's well, let's continue here. Let's see what he has to say Images have power. I hope normally we try to be pretty private But in this case, I'm sharing a photo in the hopes that it might dissuade the next person from throwing them all the top cocktail at our house No matter what they think about me. He's trying to He's humanizing himself. No, I know, but it's it's I think it's just a little bit of a prop Fully and a little cheap when it's like look I Well, I feel like we're getting ahead of ourselves. I feel like we should get into what happened before we get into all these all my feelings about it But because it feels weird to talk about it without talking about the actual thing Uh, well, I just wanted to pull this one quote from it

26:16He said the fear and anxiety about AI is justified. We are in the process of witnessing the largest change to society in a long time and perhaps ever And he talks about what he believes in that you know working toward prosperity for everybody all this stuff um It is funny when he tweeted this blog out. I was looking at some of the replies on Twitter And one of them was some mega guy who was like I'm very sorry that it happened, but I do not believe that two gay men should have a child you rented a woman's womb And that's just a sin Y'all have those guys in their consistency. Oh, yeah, yeah But so this uh the Molotov cocktail guy Was charged with attempted murder. His name is Daniel Alejandro Moreno gamma allegedly allegedly This is from the San Francisco standard boy. They really nailed it with this uh this this piece about it because they've got this guy Dead to rights man. He's on security camera footage. He's from Texas. He came to San Francisco

27:19allegedly allegedly Um because you know, yeah allegedly throwing a fire bomb at San Mom and Tom I Another moron through it at the security gate. First of all What do you think you're throwing it in a fucking rot iron gate? I know they just like famously not flammable They just like put out the flammable and it's immediately put out because they've got 24 seven security the guys a billionaire And also sir you are on camera doing this here. Let's scroll down So as as we're going as I'm going through this article It's wild like so here's they've got footage of him pacing outside his hotel room just hours before the attack He's clearly like hyping himself up like fuck shit What am I doing? What am I gonna do holy shit? Oh, you don't know as a pacer. I'm a pacer. I have oh, oh you pace I pace so doesn't mean I'm about to do an attack No, but then they they well scroll up. He didn't come back to his hotel room the that next morning and

28:22His housekeepers for the hotel went in and they saw Um a laptop and a gun because he had a gun. So that's when they called the police But apparently after he did the Molotov cocktail he tried to use to chair to try to break the windows Of the open AI office again. This is like not during office hours. So there's nobody there And he and he apparently threatened to kill everyone inside. He said he wanted to quote burn it down and kill anyone inside Brother that one's hard. That one's hard to He also had a three-part manifesto Um All about the risk that AI poses to humanity and he advocated for killing the CEOs of AI companies and their investors Um Folks don't do this kind of thing. I just got to say don't Don't do this. You're just going to ruin your life. They there's nothing to be gained from this They don't have they haven't released his manifesto. They've been talking about but did you

29:27Did you see his sub-stack uh No, well, I did yeah, but I didn't read it but according to NPR Okay, he part of part of his thing was released or maybe this is from his sub-stack But according to NPR he wrote Also, if I'm going to advocate for others to kill and commit crimes Then I must lead by example and show that I am fully sincere in my message This is an unwell person man. Look at look at this security camera footage of him and black and white chuck in the um allegedly chucking the Molotov cocktail But yeah, his sub-stack was called but but Larry and jihanna. No, that was his uh, that's his Instagram Excuse me his There he is. He's just Daniel sub-stack And uh, oh, it's just his name. Yeah, Daniel. I read a good amount of this stuff. It's oh they might have already taken it down No, I still have it here Um some some interesting stuff I would say on the sub-stack. He's definitely 20

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32:33He also allegedly the third part of his manifesto Addressed Sam Altman directly and he said if by some miracle you live Then I would take this as a sign from the divine to redeem yourself He also doesn't call him Sam Altman. I think he calls him victim one. Oh my Victim one. I think I Why why is that? Well, it's just fucking psycho go go back to the So he's not directly naming the filing but it describes victim one as the chief executive of a research company that deploys and develops artificial intelligence and operates in interstate and foreign commerce Your last warning in the first section of the document your last warning he stated to he's Trying to kill slash attempt to kill victim one. He's saying it like that. He's trying to kill or don't to kiss Sound a little bit of fun Just having a little bit of fun trying to like to kill or attempt to kill It's any staff and then he also listed the names and addresses of several additional AI executives

33:36Board members and investors Can you click the link Luke that says stories right under the Instagram one because someone Screen shot at some of his Instagram stories. Let's let's cook that he's got this trend line of coding tasks AI can do and he wrote if we do nothing very soon. We will die. I'm very sure of that Let's scan through these next one This is just a collection of News headlines and articles and he wrote being right all the time fucking sucks when it's about the worst things imaginable I mean guys got a little bit of delusions of Granger here and this is a layup case man. He's going away for a long time. What's the next one? Oh? He's got a bend diagram The matrix terminator and idiocracy and you're right in the middle. Yeah, I mean, I don't disagree with that I mean, so that's the thing. Yeah, that's this is another one. It's a it looks like some kind of it's from law fair It's AI might let you die to save itself and

34:39This is kind of my point I don't know anything about the guy. Obviously I have there's very little to go off of but He might be a little extreme. I don't know if he's I don't know if he's like crazy. I think he might be a little bit internet poison Yeah But I don't know if he's crazy. He might feel desperate and that's kind of the thing I wanted to get at with the with the same Altman post is like That's not really the point. He doesn't care if you have a husband and a child. You know what I mean? I think As you already said he himself Said it will not all go well the fear and anxiety about AI is justified. We're in the process of witnessing the largest change society in a long time and perhaps ever and As someone like myself who's doing Their best to just like stay sane among this whole AI arms race thing It's bizarre. I mean has there ever been a

35:40Moment in time like this before where you know Titans of industry They literally come out I don't know every month and they look like dead in a camera and they go You know best case scenario it takes your job worse case scenario it kills you We don't know we're doing our best we're we're trying yeah and And everyone's just supposed to be like oh cool like What's that gonna do to an impressionable 20-year-old who hears it and is like oh you guys are telling us what's it gonna do to anyone? No, I'm a person like you know and you're taking it already Economically depressed population. We have a very large population of people in this country who are not in good economic conditions And you're telling them these things like even Even Even the jobs that you considered bad well at least they were jobs But we're actually doing our best to make those go away too. I mean you're being flooded with the images

36:40I'm sure you seen the the Indian factory workers wearing the Cameras placed on their head so that the robots We'll have data to see So again, this is not and please don't mistake me. This is not any kind of like defense of the matter You know defense of the actions or Anything like that I think that what Sam Altman was doing is trying to remind people and would be copycats that he is a person It's not I saw it less as like a cop out and more just like hey just a reminder I'm not just some faceless evil corporate whatever you might think of me I am a person who loves and has all that stuff too. I think that's what his aim was Yeah, but I just don't think that is a good way to lead when people have like very real grievances about the things that you're Sure, I mean, I think that when it's like the say it's like you know We went through this with the Luigi Manjani thing

37:41Who we don't know if he did that so I want to be clear about that was an alleged thing But it's the same thing with like what's his name Brian Johnson? Brian Thompson maybe Thompson You know that man had a family and like you know but it Obfuscates the fact that these people are Very willing participants in these systems that cause a lot of harm downstream of them and then um, you know don't want to face Any kind of consequence. Well, I don't think anybody wants to be killed By By judge Jerry an executioner of some guy I certainly wouldn't want to be You're saying they don't want to they don't want to reap the consequences. It's like sure there are consequences But there's consequences and then they're just like getting shot in the back. They're insulated From sure from the system that they participated in that emiserates people. Yeah, and they don't they don't

38:47Take part in any of the they don't share in any of the consequences. They create they create or any of the effects That run downstream. I'm not saying they want to be killed right right. I'm just saying You can't have these like horrible gnarly systems And then not expect people to you know, it's we're gonna talk about the warehouses and stuff too Whether or not There is a real pattern there or not. I think people are making a pattern online Um, and that's another that can I put it in there? Can you put that AI found her shocked by the comments thing on The screen so click her profile real quick this woman Paula. I when I first thought I didn't realize she was so she's playing with words creating whimsical AI She built iOS apps for X AI Spotify and co founded uh, oh, that's another AI technology education for the age of AI and she posted this thing Where she said I didn't realize how bad it was until I saw This comment section on Instagram and just click some of those so we can see

39:50So people are commenting about the news story about Sam Altman's house being hit with a Molotov cocktail and People said I hope that Molotov cocktail is okay. Where can we support their bail fund? Please nobody throw another Molotov cocktail at Sam Altman's house Which is pictured here that would be easy to find now since you now since you know which neighborhood it's in I love how collectively fed up the working classes actually that man and me were having dinner. He was never there And it's just all these do it do it again. I missed it new love language just dropped sir your home is on an active landslide The people are tired in other news. I had a bagel for breakfast Doing God's work more more more. I hear who is born. No, he was with me all night at the bar. Let him go damn It didn't work damn free him and it's just so awesome. That's where he lives is the Molotov cocktail. Okay. This should be a nightly occurrence One ain't gonna cut it arrested for allegedly throwing a Molotov Molotov at due task we have to we have yet to know if the person they arrested did the crime or just took the fall So the calm man won't realize you can you can just throw Molotovs at millionaires mansions obviously very

40:55reminiscent of the Luigi sentiment Of people just very fed up again. I don't I don't advocate for this. I don't think it's a good thing. I just think more than anything. I think there needs to be a reckoning of What it means to to live in a society with such Lopsided income inequality plus People building these technologies that could Further exacerbate the problem or potentially kill us. I was I was seeing some takes about a G.I yesterday and It's funny because yeah a lot of these A lot of what we're seeing is The conversation is gearing toward oh yeah If it does get to that point where where all these people will be out of work and stuff. We'll just do an AGI thing Oh, no, no, sorry. You're thinking UBI I think oh sorry. Yeah, sorry. Thank you. Thank you. UBI UBI universal is a very different universal basic income

41:58Like everybody's gonna be and they're like everybody will be free to do their thing and I saw some like Well thought out articulated pushback that was essentially I don't want to a lot people glean Satisfaction from their work. They glean a sense of purpose from their work. It's It is a it's a nice thought that everybody can just be retired or whatever this utopic utopia That you're imagining, but I mean just imagining for myself I wouldn't want to just feel like cool. I collect my government Check What's gonna happen to my kids or my grandkids are we just all gonna be like Trapped in this permanent state of getting our UBI checks so that we can what like scroll on our phones and Like what's the end goal here? It reminds me there was another there was an article that just got published today I I wish I had bookmarked it, but it was about how a lot of retirees

43:00Are finding themselves wasting their days on social media and they're just like that's a glimpse into what a potential future Like this would be it's just people like when they have no purpose when they have no When they have no boss not okay, I don't mean how this sounds But that's what the article was saying. I'm paraphrasing. It's like when you've got nobody to tell you To give you structure when you've got no responsibilities There's it becomes a very very slippery slope especially when you've got the drug I held up my phone. I saw that article. I also have a different view of it. I think uh I think that the UBI I think What it whether it's UBI or some It would have to be a complete overhaul of everything, you know, if we went this route I don't think I don't think you need a Traditional job type thing to have any meaning in your life. I think I think there's a world in which We can solve resource scarcity and people can live

44:03valuable lives without Without jobs, which is uh, that doesn't mean there will be no labor. You can choose to Expand your labor and whatever where you want I think my problem is it you know it reminds me of when we had What was that guy's name Chris something the Yeah, yeah the the robot investor guy and I always feel like if you bring this stuff up you're like oh you're you're a you're a lot I you hate tech you're like anti-progress whatever and it's like no, I'm just curious like What the actual plant? I think you know this like tech optimist thing is like Oh, well, we'll just do it and it just solves everything and like poor people will be great and you're like yeah But how because that's never happened before right? We've been promised this many times uh, so When people are like oh, we'll just do UBI. I'm like with what With what yeah, are you gonna tax the corporations? Yeah, who famously love being tax? They're gonna fucking put you in a meat grinder and use you use your body for fuel I mean like surely give you the bare minimum necessary right so that's

45:07Yeah, my bigger problem is that there's no There's no broad public support for Movement for for ordinary people to be ushered into a dignified life if if this happens. I think it it more looks Like what we're seeing is people being thrown out of out of jobs Uh, you know, you wanted to talk about the Waymo thing where it's like yeah, that's a perfect example of like You know, we've had so many problems with the uberification of cities where people who are already hanging on by a thread uber coming in and forcing them to get on that app and then then being in complete control of their wages and stuff now They're trying to get that goes way mo to come into the to the city and kick people off of that it's like Yeah, it's a very tricky precarious situation we're in here

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48:13The way that they communicate this stuff to the broader masses because obviously The vast majority of us are not tech savvy. We don't understand this stuff. I don't. I'm constantly being shown and ping-ponged around by perceived experts on both sides who say The mythos thing is a perfect example. We talked about this on our on our call yesterday where On the one hand you've got anthropic saying we're this time Trust us which they've been saying since chat gpt 3.0 and even I was as a pretty level-headed guy. I was like a little bit nervous Yeah, I couldn't help but be like oh, what do you mean where they're they're like this thing is gonna ruin and I mean I've been seeing it in the markets where every day when inthropic comes out with a new iteration of clawed that that kills some other section of the software Economy you see the stocks act in kind and plummet. So I'm like, okay, maybe there is something to this

49:15There's got to be otherwise the mark of the cyber security stuff. Yes, cyber security Agentic AI killing, you know, fucking Atlassian or Service now or you name it cloud flare Fastly all these stuff snowflake. They're all just getting fucking taken to the woodshed But then there are some people who come out and they're like an AI expert or a computer tech scientist or whatever And they've got the credentials or so it seems and they say well hang on a second Andthropic's only saying this because it's good PR and you have to take that into consideration too when you discuss all this stuff So I'm trying to plug that into the mental calculus of trying to get a full comprehensive grasp on this whole thing And I think that yeah, they've they've really fucked up by Coming out and saying all of these things like oh, it's gonna be so disruptive and we we actually don't know what's gonna look like it All we know is that We've got to beat the next company and they're all we're all going neck and neck and if we stop then we'll fail

50:16And then we also have to be China and they might get it and then they're gonna put Chinese in your head And it's gonna be crazy I mean plus the fact that the one who do understand it. Yeah, oftentimes like we get these weird Letters of them being like um, I'm quitting anthropic because of what I've seen and I'm retiring to the Irish countryside to write poetry A hunger family now As someone who just like doesn't you like what should I do and then you've got the guy doing chat GPT who can't even When he asks it like there I saw one that was uh, they were asking it Hey, how many months contain the letter X and it goes October September right this this and he goes no They don't he goes you caught me none of them have X but actually October does have an X if you look closely And then he goes spell it out oh C T O B E R There you got me again But then I go okay, I'm gonna kill that man

51:16Oh, yeah, he's for sure gonna find and kill that guy, but I So all that's to say is I think that it's a very stupid stupid stupid Clearly obviously dangerous thing for them to come out and say these these maximalists Uh, just like the the full imagining the full Throated this is what could possibly happen and putting that out there as an narrative can scare the shit out of a fucking Impressionable 20-year-old who's just coming into the world off the heels of covid Um has probably little to no prospects and it has no hope. What do you think of course he's gonna fucking think this stuff? It's very strange strategy. It's so it's really really really they all like ask each other What's your p-dume like probably a probability of doomsday and it's like throw like 30% 50% 60% It's like oh, yeah, I just imagine if like Steve jobs for the like When he came out with the iPhone, he does his whole presentation and everything and then at the end

52:18He's like also 60% 60% chance this thing fucking kills you. I don't know We're gonna do that and one more thing because that's what he always did. Oh, and there's one more thing and he unveils Science 60 it might fucking kill everybody But if it doesn't we're gonna sell a hell of a lot more if it doesn't it's gonna take your job Oh my god, I don't want one. We just kill Steve jobs Yeah, that is funny A popular narrative is like it could um it could kill everybody or it could take your jobs But also you're a fucking Luddite If you if you really believe that and you're against it. It's like make up your fucking. I don't think that's a popular narrative That is like the narrative they come out and say it like Dario Amade like goes on popular podcast Sam Altman, they're like they need a publicist. They need some 27-year-old girl who lives in Santa Monica Who's good at this thing and it's like? Oh, no With chewen or gum like no, what we need to do is like you guys need to walk that back

53:20Yesterday, yeah, I'm I feel myself very conflicted about it all. I feel like I don't know what to believe there is There are AI experts all across the spectrum. They're like people who worked for the autism spectrum. I mean, yes But I'm gonna The sexuality spectrum. They're they're across every spectrum that go on that I'm blank in his name Eli something Kineser or something you know what I'm talking about Maybe go on. He's that like very famous AI Doomer. It's gonna fucking kill you AI expert. He has that whole Whole organization dedicated to Making sure it doesn't happen and then You know, there's people who are like it's built at the Yes, he's a good kowski. Kowski. Thank you. Oh, he's aliens or Shlomo. We got it. We got one That's it is machine intelligence research and see meery Uh, and then there's fucking there's obviously the complete end of the spectrum where it's going to usher in our wildest dreams and yeah

54:29and our End our need for labor and scarcity and Don't stand in its way. I was the to to finish my original thought about this. I think that I think that them being so Exaggerated in these predictions. I it is again my hope as an as an optimist I don't think that it's gonna end up that way. I think that ultimately these are going to be tools For people and it depends like obviously a waymo situation is gonna be yeah, it's probably already is putting Uh, gig worker drivers out of work um But I don't think that Or like my my friend Shane who's a copywriter lost his job and they replaced They got rid of their entire. This isn't a movie trailer studio They fired the entire uh copywriter department No way. Yeah, I haven't I talked about that on here. Yeah, they got rid of the entire copywriter department now It's just like the creative director and an a or the uh or the uh or the editors of the trailers

55:33Just fucking ask AI for for copy for the for the movie trailers I which I've talked about on the show how like I told a friend who was getting paid uh like a contract job And he was having trouble. I was like teacher's feeding to AI. It's not It's unfortunately works. I don't know or are we we both know someone Google who has a very very good secure job there. He's one of the higher ups Within one of the organizations and I've talked to him extensively about this and he says dude It's made my job so much better and my ability to use it has actually Kind of given me some job security because the ones who just you know Plug their ears and close their eyes and pretend it doesn't exist are the ones who aren't going to stand out like I already am Because I'm proving that I know how to use this tool. I'm using it effectively. I'm making myself more efficient there By you know impressing my boss and my boss's boss blah blah blah. Yeah, but my so the the the economy is

56:35Brought up or all kinds of different labor and that's what I'm saying like in some cases Are gonna be fine. Yeah, and we'll probably use it as a tool. Yeah, I think the real worry is this immediate impact of Okay, the waymo thing in that in that piece they're talking about Like close to a million or maybe more jobs that could just be wiped out if yeah if those driver jobs are gone away and then The big one when you know when Andrew Yang hit the scene with his whole UBI thing the big one he was talking about was The automation of truck driving jobs because it's It's like the number one employment for I think high school grads who didn't get a high school males who didn't get a college degree I think I'd have to look it up don't go to drive the trucks. Don't go to be happy man Um, so I mean what happens when you just Knock out 10 million jobs. I suppose 12 million jobs. Yeah, I suppose the hope is that it would and then in a few years you're knocking out and you know, I just Well

57:35Yeah, I don't know and I don't think that anybody knows I think that all we can do is kind of and unfortunately It happens gradually enough to where things can be implemented Be it laws and regulations. I think that what would be a good thing is gonna do that Chuck Schumer is gonna peer over his glasses. That's the biggest issue like I think if there was a If we lived in a real functioning country who was interested in Taking on our biggest problems and coming up with solutions You wouldn't you wouldn't see this kind of stuff. I think that's the thing if if there was a There was a whole administration be like oh Jesus Christ. We're staring down the barrel of math of a mass unemployment situation here We need to make sure we're prepared instead. You have you know mr. McDonald's Doing his door desk We don't like women women's sports We don't like it when a man plays a woman's sport

58:35Speaking of all of this. There's a movement that I did not even know existed called called pause AI Um, and you go on their website here. Is it pause AI dot info? Yeah Uh, let's go to their proposal if we click on there They they their proposal is to by the way, so this guy the Molotov cocktail thrower was He was part of the discord for pause AI, which then distance itself from him after the attack and they put out a statement saying that Pause AI exists because we believe everyone deserves to be safe Including Sam Altman who's loved ones violence against anyone is antithetical to everything we stand for And I I went on to their website and it's very interesting. They are calling for a global pause They're saying implementing a temporary pause on the training of the most powerful general AI systems That's what they're looking for we do not expect countries or companies to risk their competitive advantage by pausing AI training runs for a

59:36If other countries and companies do not do the same. This is why we need a global pause They're saying that implementing a pause can backfire if it's not done properly But they believe that their proposal would mitigate the most serious downsides. Can you click that link for mitigate the most serious downsides? I Yeah, they It leads to this other article where pausing too early could have issues Yeah, I mean they're all less to say is they're very very thorough So let's go back to that thing. Oh, yeah, they have a hole. I went through there frequently asked questions thing They're suggesting a treaty the primary end goal of these they they're calling for summits of getting the US and China involved setting up an international AI safety agency I mean boy what an undertaking because I mean you're effectively asking Capitalism itself to pause because so much of this is heavily weighted on Now so many people's retirement accounts the very truckers and gig workers that we're talking about they're

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1:02:49Owned stocks is I am going to say 65% of Americans own stocks Let's see 62% wow Own stock whether through individual stocks mutual funds are self directed uh 401k's or Roth IRA's totaling about 167 million people however Ownership is heavily concentrated with high income college educated And older Americans more likely to hold investments. I mean that checks out obviously checks out And it's still 70% of white adults own stock guys. We're winning. We just keep winning. I mean those are stark numbers Yeah 53% of black adults and 38% 38% of Hispanic adults Well, uh, I mean a pause would certainly yeah Uh, tank the stock market. That's for sure. I mean, yeah They might tank it themselves if they can't land the plane

1:03:51Uh, let's see they're they're calling for Enforcement of the treaty requires the US in China to back it with their economic and military power if the leaders of both nations Understand the severity of the risks of AI they will see the success of the treaty is in their own interests If a safe superhuman AI is created the AI itself will be used By the AI essay to enforce the treaty interesting. How could we ever know it safe? I know Well, so if you create the superhuman thing Why is it not just gonna lie to you and you know like women do am I right? I know We've lived with women long enough to know. All right. We're never gonna We're never gonna be what if it just wants to lay around and eat hot chips and lie Yeah, there's nothing we can do. There's nothing we can do Uh, I do find it interesting that these pause AI people are not against AI and the proliferation of AI they are very much like On board with it what they aren't on board with is the speed and perceived recklessness of the way that things are going

1:04:53I mean, I would say that's about where I fall. I don't I don't like as I was saying I'm not trying to be this like I'm anti-progress. I just think there's this You can feel that this is being done in a way that's having Deleteerious effects on the population just Even things that you know don't even get brought up like Like artists there's just that woman she went kind of viral because her her music got trained on some data from whatever and then they started basically like creating music off of her music that they fed into it and she couldn't even Make copyright claims and it's just all across the board. It's taking It's taking people's abilities to Make a livelihood Did you see what Diplo had to say about I did watch that. I thought that that was interesting It also makes an interesting perspective. I'm not saying no I mean it also but like that point especially makes me nervous about

1:05:56Young people as well a big part of his point was that like I have the historical context yeah, I got to grow up without it And we're kind of the same way. I've used it to like research things and been like That doesn't feel right because of what I know But if you go into it without any of that be a cool beat Whereas he can be like make me a beat like this producer from the 70s Yeah, that's effectively what he was saying for those who missed it He was just saying it is here. It is coming. It is inevitable. You can either Learn to use it and use it or not use it But if you choose not to use it behind you might get left behind But I think that point about his of like We have an advantage being part of the old head generation. I do think we haven't suddenly being uncle's cool I think we have an advantage in so many ways like I couldn't even imagine what What being a young person is like now with all these with all these things

1:06:56It came up a little bit like because we briefly talked about this stuff on the live and Or maybe it was the warehouse fire and I was talking about you know how yeah people just feel I think a lot of desperation and and not a lot of hope for the future and just a bunch of things A bunch of comments coming into the chat like I'm 22. I feel this way. I'm 20. I feel this way. I'm 23. I feel this way So I have no idea what this guy's Mindset is like but I do worry that there's going to be more and more people who feel that desperation and desperate people Do sometimes Desperate things. I do want to also go over the fact again that I mean I think that it's very easy for us to be present-minded and feel like it is unprecedented and unlike any other time before and it is in many ways but Speaking of speaking to the oh my god I'm fucked kind of mentality Is definitely not new Or or unique like there and also I will say there were some people who were hopeful which is good

1:08:00I'm very glad for that but I was fucking Dude when I was 26 and I wasn't working and I was like depressed and I felt like what the fuck am I going to do with my life That in itself is just a very normal but did that feel very personal to you or did you have like a more Existential broad There's a little bit of both. I mean it was coming off the heels of the recession Um and feeling like whoa I guess I should it was kind of before the peak of oh I guess I should learn how to code That's kind of what I was thinking is like I guess I was looking that funny. They told everyone to code I was learning I was looking into like coding boot camps because I knew a girl who's now a magician by the way The the coding to magic pipeline is very real I well, I knew she had done one of these coding boot camps and got a job And it was paying or you know 80k a year or something like that and I thought oh maybe I'll do that But I mean ask your ask your if you're older and you've got gen X or boomer parents ask them what it was like for them growing up

1:09:02you know there was There's always been I mean we really we had it the worst we had 9 11 I don't think we even we had the recession we had covid I and they're still living with the effects of that that that's the thing I think like there have been so many things that have Been come compounding this moment. I think It's not just AI. It's everything. It's the affordability crisis. There was that I was telling you about that New York Times thing the death of the basic American car And it basically goes through How used to be able used to be able to get these cheap reliable cars Uh And now if you if you there's very limited options for under 25 grand and well 15 grand adjusted for inflation It was about 2100 bucks for a for one of these like 70s or 80s Honda civics whatever they are um Adjusted for inflation that was 15 grand Now you're very lucky if you can even find a car for under 25 grand usually you're paying 30 or over and the average

1:10:04the average New car price is 50 grand which is insane yeah and I was looking at that article and I'm very interested in the New York Times comment section I bring this up all the time because I find they're just like the most Deadfast like normy damn voter and I'm just always curious what the so I always go to the readers pick Which is basically the most popular comment with the most thumbs-ups uh But I was honestly only going To see what people wanted out of cars and stuff like that. I was just curious and The very first one was can we please stop pretending that everyone in America is middle class? I get that middle class as a cultural not an economic category and that being middle class as a matter of personal dignity and identity But in a service economy you are no longer middle class just because you run a little Caesars And working class if you are a plumber you are a part of a precarious proletariat that barely keeps its head above water median person median personal income in the US is lower than most of the developed world

1:11:05And unless you belong to the top 25 percent life in the US is harder and less affordable than in pure countries Sure taxes in Europe and elsewhere might be higher But Americans have to pay much more for health care education than other Than other first worlders who usually enjoy better schools and Medicare medical care than their American counterparts in short America is not the middle class society claims to be Life for a large majority of Americans is a more stressful and precarious than in other rich countries Unless Americans drop their jingoistic exceptionalism and take a cold hard look at their society Meaningful reform cannot even begin and that was the top comment with 2.6,000 recommends before like this was when I screenshot it Damn dude. I thought it was gonna say can we please stop pretending that we want cars with screens Well, that's what's very funny and so I was like god damn people so I went to the next one I was like that one's probably about cars and then it was Another article about the same thing have the fundamentally extractive US Economy is making a middle-class existence impossible. There's only one solution a fundamental shift in how we pay for the foundations of society from labor to capital capital

1:12:11Close the loopholes you make money here you pay tax the rich And I was like what the fuck is going on? It wasn't until a couple down till I saw someone being like we need to stop with all the bells and whistles How would we just like that's when I thought the top comments you made and I was like they do need to stop with all the damn bells and whistles and Perfected cars like 15 years ago. Stay there like Toyota did it's a coma 2003 perfect truck We just green we got to make it bigger so you can't see children if you want to hit them But that's not even true like because in China. They're coming up with these electric vehicles that are blowing people away That cost a fraction of what it costs to get a new American car Uh, and so yeah, just like I'm looking around and I'm getting very nervous about The sentiment or you know in the country we we already talked about the The is it University of Michigan that does that sentiment study that um That has been tracking and it's like at lowest in in um

1:13:12Since the studies inception and I'm just like god damn the New York Times is like We need to we need to How you're a proletariat who's being living the precarious lifestyle. I'm like whoa. Yeah, there's a There's a palpable and we we hardly talked about it to the The warehouses thing. I just want to clarify There's a sentiment online not sentiment. It's almost like a false narrative where Okay, that guy burned down that toilet paper warehouse, which we talked about And he said that thing about pay us a living wage and this wouldn't happen whatever people are taking Old warehouse fires and footage from it and Scribing this narrative to it. Yes, but end ones that may happen which have been Unconfirmed why or whether it's arson or it could just be some kind of electrical fire whatever um And I'm sure you've seen it. There's this weird like Though you know like living wages save factories or whatever or like or like

1:14:20Just the footage of a burning factory and like All you had to do was pay us a living wage and it's like oh, we shit. I think it's I think it's uh I mean the the twitter thing is kind of a good representation of this entire new media economy which is that um Emotions and grabby headlines drive clicks, which is what ultimately pays for the entire thing Whereas he used to just be you tune in and watch the news or you got the fucking newspaper and I'm it Really was We really had it all man. We really did We really had it all. Yeah, I'm torn on this. I don't think it's good for people to like have a constant stream of information But I also do think there's been I think there's been a real breakdown in the ability for Manufacturing consent and Elite to kind of feed you narratives. I think oh man. It's But it's a double edged short. I think people have been completely internet poisoned and and like

1:15:20Maybe don't believe anything anymore. They're like oh, well, that's that's because I blah But I hate blah blah, dude. I think blah blah is always getting in the way. I think Before it was much harder to See through Because it's all immediate dude. They like With the war Trump tries to say something and we're all going Dude, I'm looking at the fucking thing. What are you talking about? That's not that's clearly not what happened or he can say something and The the leader of the Iranian parliament can just be like now that actually didn't happen without meeting with him You know, we're issuing a correction speaking of folks, I highly recommend that you Google Ashley St. Clair And it'll surely pop up this video of her recently. She is for those who don't know or remember she's Elon Musk's latest

1:16:21Baby mama. How many kids is he up now? Probably but she famously had a child with Elon Musk and she's kind of Freed herself from the matrix so to speak. She's an American influencer Author and political commentator. She's a book. What the fuck is that elephants are not what oh birds? Probably an anti-trans thing because she became known as an outspoken proponent of conservative and anti-transgender politics uh in 2025 she revealed that she and Elon Musk had a child together. So anyway In 2026 she denounced her anti-trans activism. What? So folks she put out this 10-minute video of her putting on makeup wherein she talks about She spent nearly a decade in the mega sphere of influence And she puts out this video that basically she's just pouring water over the entire thing And she talks about how the whole mega influencer ecosystem works

1:17:26I'm paraphrasing obviously you got to watch it for yourself, but it speaks to what you were just talking about It's so I mean, it's what we all knew But I mean just hearing it straight from the horse's mouth um She's saying how there's these Chat groups where there's just influencers, but then there's also members of the administration billionaires you name it And they're taking their orders from the tippy top. Well, that's what I was gonna say She hears what we're gonna talk about and they get paid and when you brought up Surnavitch and the other guy They're getting paid. There's a reason why they're doing fucking You know cartwheels and pretzels And she one of the things she brings up is the the way that they are paid skirts the law in creative ways so that they're not disclosed And it's just it's so simple, but it's so devastatingly effective Because this is how narratives are born proliferated and you know And take over the country Sometimes like when it becomes the only thing that everybody seems to talk about it all comes from these little chat groups

1:18:33and you know For all her flaws and faults and previous Awful things that I'm sure she said and done It's awesome that she's coming out and saying all this and I hope that it gets a lot more attention because it's kind of it's It's really pulling back the curtain Yeah, but there is something about I didn't know about this like elephants or not Does it elephants are not birds thing I need some kind of I don't know. Maybe it's like very Catholic of me or something. I just need With all these people any of the any of the comedians who did their Trump apology during 2024 and all that You guys are welcome back. I just need like So maybe like some kind of public humiliation. Oh, yeah, yeah, your shoulders has to walk around with this dick hanging out Well Self-flagilation I need to see it weights suspended from it. It's very It's a very harmful

1:19:35ecosystem they're participating in yeah, and you're right to I don't know. I don't know exactly what it looks like, but it just I I'm happy you change your mind. It's just very difficult for me to be like Welcome back. Yeah, I don't like especially just seeing your fucking your fucking children's book of like yeah, it's like well No, I denounce all that I like all right That's great, and you know Joe Rogan's obviously doing his work. Can you believe all this? Yeah, can you believe they're doing? This is wild Jamie pull that up. It's like yeah, we can believe it because literally everyone said it was gonna happen You stupid like no, I'm smarter than all of you. Yeah, did I ever show you the um the video game character? The Joe Rogan looks exactly like no, but just real quick click one of those like just what is a page like that look like what does it say on the page of The elephant thought it was a bird, but it was wrong because elephants can't play bird sports You laugh said culture Culture culture voucher, but what would you rather sing songs or carry carts of food that's been gathered hmm

1:20:39Is it true that I really love to sing maybe being a bird is actually my thing? I yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah Bob oh, man Oh, let's round it out with this Elon Musk versus open AI thing. So just real fast Elon Musk wants Sam Altman Sam Altman out as a CEO of open AI He's looking to have him removed from his roles as part of his legal challenge to the company's conversion To a for profit company. He wants a court order Restoring so he wants to flat out fuck them. It's never gonna happen because they're worth eight hundred billion dollars Yeah, fuck them the way he won't fuck these baby mamas. He's not he's not shipping to come. He's inserting it right into Couldn't say it better but good not to say it better is a that's what I was hoping to say, but you you took the words He wants a court order to restore them to a nonprofit research organization And he wants whatever damages are awarded to go to open AI's charitable arm and open AI

1:21:42Clapped back And they said quote the lawsuit remains nothing more than a harassment campaign that's driven by ego jealousy and a desire to slow down a competitor Certainly true a real a real let him fight moment. Yeah, it's that time fight. It's obviously You you see Elon Musk and you're like, well, he's not wrong. You see Sam Altman's are like he's not wrong Let him fight man The real winners of the lawyers, but open AI also is asking California and Delaware attorneys general to Investigate Elon and his associates for quote improper and anti-competitive behavior And then finally I really like what open AI's chief strategy officer Jason Kwan said They sent a letter They said that the the lawsuit could undermine the company's efforts to ensure that artificial general intelligence benefits all humanity Hey guys This is actually gonna hurt Humanity when you think about it. So like if you try to stop us and make us go back to being a nonprofit

1:22:47You could be killing billions of people in doing so. So just something to think about just something to think about when you try to You know make us proceed with caution and walk back our p-dume statements, okay? Yeah, you could be fucking humanity You 70-year-old judge old ass. Don't understand this shit ass Did the other thing I meant to bring up you can just lie to old people. I didn't even know it I think it was on the live you were like because we were talking about the data centers. I think in the mama centers. Yeah, and You were like well the thing that would bother me is the noise yeah And I looked it up And there's all these videos of people, you know sitting on their porch Used to be quiet out here. It's a bird's chirp now. Here's this humdrum noise going on. It's not a low, huh I hear it all the time They're actively driving people nuts. Yeah. Yeah, if I lived next to that I would uh, I would nuts me drivel

1:23:48You know, I might ask Claude how you make a Molotov cocktail if you don't know. Yeah It's really easy. I don't think you need to have I'm joking. It's just a it's just an alternate phrase. Yeah Data centers are making people sick Anyway, this guy's name is Ben Jordan with two ends brother You don't like that that fucking sucks to me. Don't do that It's it's been with two ends. All right. He's cool. He's cool. He's cool apparently All right, everybody um that about does it for this episode. Why don't you join us in the bonus? We'll we'll be talking about justice. Oh, oh Come into the week This one comes from Natalie Ruth Silva. She wrote I really hope for everyone's safety that Ben never tries meth. I hope that too for everyone's safety. She says What do you think I'm gonna do girl? I don't see the world is not ready for do you ever go on those maybe we'll look it in the bonus You ever go on those like meth subreddits where it's like someone's it's like It's like how we've felt on Adderaw but like to the end theory and they're like

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