Ask OTC: Will Rafael Leão reach his potential at Galatasaray?

0:00Welcome to Ask OTC, this show where we answer all of your questions from the week in European football. I'm Dotton Addy Bios. I'm Andy Russell. And I'm Lars Yorton. This question from Barry on Instagram Lash will Raphael Laos obvious potential finally be reached at Gallaudet Sessirite. Well, Dotton, I've always felt that Raphael Laos has a very obvious potential to end up in the Turkish Super League. So from that perspective, the potential very much has been fulfilled, I would say. Is that it? There's more to come. On a more serious note, I think it's a good place for him because as much as he can be a game-breaking talent, as they call it, he can win games on his own, he's never become consistent enough really to command the kind of place as the focal point of one

1:02of the great sort of teams and one of the big leagues. At his best, he is clearly extremely good physical gifts, technical all this, but there are just too many times that he just doesn't do much. He can't really rely on him to turn up every single game and be the guy. And when he costs as much as he does, when the salary is what it is, he's only really a viable target for the very biggest clubs around Europe. And they will look at him as a guy who doesn't do anything defensively and who just isn't reliable enough in the attacking sense, who has too many games where he doesn't deliver. And it's not going to be someone they're going to want to build their team around. But I think Al Tassirite is perfect for him. I don't think, like we are a pro-Turkish Super League podcast. I think we can all agree. I think this is competitively you can argue it's a footballing backyard, but no one who goes to Istanbul and goes to these stadiums will feel like

2:02they're in any kind of backyard. You're making good money, you're living in an incredible city, you're playing in front of an incredible fan. It's not a bad way to live your football life. And I think for someone like Leo who at his best is a sublime footballer, let's get it right. But who maybe isn't consistent and effective enough to really be the guy at the highest sort of Champions League challengers, I think it's a great place for him to end up. Yeah, I'm sort of a little bit split over this because immediately you think, well, when you go to go back to Barry's question, is this the place that you can fulfill his potential? I guess if you go back a year you would have asked the same about Lee Rosane. Who again has the talent to be the top 20 player in the world on his day. How many times does he actually prove it? Another player who's been criticized with not doing enough without the ball, although I tend to think it's aptitude rather than application

3:06when it comes to his defensive efforts. Leo though, I think we have to ask, why he's not able to put it together consistently because he has in the past. Go back to the last time that Milan won the league. He's their best player. He's the league's MVP. So I guess the real question is why at 27 years old, are we still talking about potential being fulfilled off the back of that, off the point where he was the best player in Serie A, which is not nothing. It's a big thing. So why haven't we got to a point where Premier League clubs are fighting over him? Why haven't we got to a point where Milan are at least using his release clause? Because Barry Marnie had 175 million euro release clause. They ended up selling him for quarter of that, or less than a quarter of that in the end, 38 million euros. So we have to ask what's happened.

4:12I think part of it is to do with Milan because they've not had the finance, or to be honest, the smarts upstairs to really build on that title win. So I think really you can pair him and tear and andes together because they were the two well-paid big stars in that team. And both of them went sideways. It wasn't just layout. You go back to the start of the season where Paula Fonseca was in charge. And this was really the thing that pulled the rug from under him early. A way at Laxia when Lao and Teo and Andes just come on as substitutes, really, recently. And so they were off having a drink on one side of the pitch. Well, on the other side in a stoppage, Fonseca was given the team talk. Obviously they sort of said, well, we'd just come on and not taking part in a team talk. It looks bad. And it gave the impression that they were the best

5:18pay players in team, which they are, which they were. And that they thought they were a bit above it. And they both struggled to get past that. I think that makes them a sort of lightning rod for public criticism. The fact that they're seen as these superstars who are not listening to the coach doing it their own way. And I think that's quite hard to come back from. But even at his worst points, the numbers aren't terrible. And even at his worst points, he's still incredibly convincing. Like if we go in beyond the numbers and talking about as Lars says, the the I test, it's easy to go to a game that Rafael Lao is involved in and think this guy is not only the best player on the pitch, he's got the ability to be one of the best because he's got so much about him. Bear in mind that he started as striker. He's developed into a left-sided player. And again, going back to the show yesterday, we talked about it with Malik Fafana.

6:19Everyone in the world wants a right-footed left side. So really, this should have been Rafael Lao's summer. But in the end, Milan end up almost like for a player of that sort of sort of ability, almost giving him away, really. So I think he's got a lot to prove there. And Galatasaray, as Lars says, the expectation is huge. There is no hiding place. If you don't get it right, they will pick over every element of your life, your demeanor, all of it if you don't get it right. I think the things that work in his favour is he responds well to an arm around the shoulder and a bit love. And he's going to get that from fans and he's going to get that from Okamburu, the coach, who wants to play attacking football. And I don't think he's going to get torn out for any lack of defensive effort here because they want to play on the front foot. Maybe they should shut the back door a bit more firmly sometimes. I think that's one of the

7:19weaknesses of this Galatasaray side over the last couple of years, particularly in a European sense. If he makes a dent in Europe, when they get in the Champions League, he'll be absolutely loved. And I think the other thing that really works for him is his close relationship with Victor Rosiemann, which I think is really big in terms of him settling. If he can make an impact in these big Champions League games, no one's going to go, we weren't that good against Cass and Pasha last week. So while I think consistency is desirable, it's maybe not the be all and end all when we're talking about the success of this move. And I guess more globally to talk about it, I consistency or that level of relentless consistency is almost impossible in the current football calendar. So it's not just the fact that we've all got true attention spans and we're just watching it on YouTube in extended highlights or clips rather than like entire games. I think it's the fact that

8:26you know there are certain big games that you have to impact in. And if you can do that, we know he's got the ability to do it. Maybe the rest won't matter that much. That was deep and thank you because you know, I really learned a lot from that actually. These questions aren't just what you hear. There's more to them. And you won't be surprised that there are a couple more questions about transfers coming up. Matt on Instagram asks, how do you think Ibrahim and Bayer will get under Uniamary at Eston Village? You fancy taking that one again, isn't it? Well, let's start again with the same theme. A bit of love will go a long way. I think because this is a player at 18 years old who has got enormous potential, enormous potential. And this is a bit of a shame because it's just in the era where PSG have started pushing younger players into the first team. I think there are a couple of issues with this.

9:27Firstly, Ibrahim and Bayer is a player who was trying to get into a part of the PSG team, whether it's just stacked with brilliant players. You're just not going to, but you look at Kang in Lee, whose far more experienced, he's had to leave and go, he's not brilliant already for athletic home Madrid, but you had to leave for athletic home Madrid because he just couldn't get in the team. And Bayer is someone who is a higher cheater who wants to get stuff done quickly, whose youngest African player to score at the World Cup, youngest player to score for Senegal, the World Cup, and he was really good in that game against France. Mad minceme of Lukardin, so presumably that's why Dean's gone to PSG, so he doesn't have to face him in training. There are the B on the bench for PSG, then face Ibrahim and Bayer, I'm joking, of course. I think the fact that Emory is keen to give young players a go, that he has moved away from what was sort of quite cautious football, that he was always sort of looked down upon a bit for

10:35Valencia in particular if we're going all the way back. If we think of Emory as overcourses, it feels like in an era where players lead the coaches sometimes a bit more than we would like to admit, it feels as if the players have done that, a villa. Now whether this set of players will, because they've got a completely new set of players, is a good question because from when we saw them in the Europa League final, they've changed an enormous amount since then. But that means, and Bayer will get a go, he wants to play, he's one of those guys who feels he can be a big player. They're looking to play transitionally, his pace, his ability outside and inside from that right hand side, an ability to score goals, I think will get him along with, I think he's going to be a big hit in the Premier League. Lash? Except to add that, I just really like his choice of destination, because you see too many, it's one of the great paradoxes I guess, is that the clubs that are

11:38spending the most on their academies are often the clubs where the first team is the hardest to get into. It is sort of top clubs around Europe. They have incredible facilities, they have incredible, they're an incredible draw to young players, because they're like, oh my god, I'm going to PSG or I'm going to Barcelona or whatever. But the reality is getting into the team is so hard there. And Bayer actually did have like 10 stars last season in the league because of course, they were rotating quite heavily. But we've seen flashes of really special things for him, but he needs to play football and I like the fact that he's gone. I'm sure one of the other super super clubs in Invertecamas would have loved to have him on the bench as an option as someone who can develop, but he's gone to a club where he is likely to be, you know, maybe not a clear first choice, but actually you know what? Probably not far off. I don't think it'll take much for him to establish himself as a as an every week starter for an IMR, which at the age of 19, I think is something he could do 18 actually still is great. So I'm looking forward to seeing that. And I do

12:43think I know this is on the continent, but there's been a lot of wailing and and gnashing of teeth in England over aston Villa's transfer window because a lot of known commodities have left. But actually now that the dust has settled and you look at their window, I kind of like a lot of the stuff they've done as an Villa. I think, um, Monzambia is a very exciting player like Nico, and Nico Jackson, I kind of like there's a I'm excited for the Villa future and in Bayes, one of the reasons for that. This somewhat hesitant question from Andrew on Blue Sky, what do you make of

13:47Follarian Balogans move to Everton? Oh, wait, let me rephrase what's earth is going to happen with him now. Yeah, this was the second most dramatic or wasn't the most dramatic. I know he spoke about Malik Fafana on the main show, but this was the other Deadline Day storyline, wasn't it? That really gripped people was Balogans, Everton, will he won't he? Now what it's what seems to be in the case, broadly speaking, is that he went to Everton, they did the medical, Everton found something in the medical that they, what's being said that they didn't quite like and they really negotiated the deal with Monaco so that the upfront payments in fee were smaller and more in clauses. But all this took time and Everton started looking at options, they tried to look, it gets Xerxane, they looked at Tommy Abraham, they were looking at options. Monaco who needed to raise some money, suddenly started thinking, uh oh, if we can sell Balogans, maybe we need to sell Kamara to Chelsea,

14:49that started happening in the background. And all the back and forth looked like it was over when in the end, Balogans seemed to have decided to go to Everton, which meant Monaco canceled the Kamara deal. Only for Balogans in the end to change his mind and decide, we don't have his words for this, but in the words of the, in the words of the Monaco boss, they, he didn't feel that he had been treated well. He didn't accept that there was anything wrong with this medical, he didn't feel good about it. And he decided he didn't want to go to Everton after all, which left Monaco in an amazing position because they didn't have the sale that they needed, which left Everton with no striker because they sold Beto to Fiorentina thinking they were going to get Balogans in. So this seems to have been one of those sagas that no one comes out of in a very good spot, except for maybe Balogan who's happy to play for Monaco for at least some more time, though of course are other transfer windows that are still open. I think he summed it up very pretty well there,

15:50Losh. Yeah, I agree. I would say the only thing I would say is that Chagoskuro, the Monaco supporting director is under a lot of pressure. The way he and Monaco have dealt with that transfer window is a little bit like, you know, in the Muppets movie where they're going to see Miss Piggie to try and convince her to rejoin them. And basically to get into her offices in Paris, they all of the Muppets get into a long overcoat and like stick a hat on Kermit or Gonzo or whoever's on top. And obviously they can't all walk at the same pace, so they all collapse in a pile of Muppets. That feels like what's happened to me, like the first couple of steps are fine and it looks like it's all going in the right way and eventually it all sort of comes apart. I feel a bit sorry for Follower and Balogan because he's had a great

16:502026 and the reason they've dropped the ball so much is because they've been planning to sell him for over six months and it all fell into place perfectly for them to get their maximum amount of money as well because you had a great 2026 scored goals relentlessly in second half last season. His all-around game has topped off and really improved since he's been in Monaco. He's not just a goal scorer now which is what kind of people always thought about him that he could just you know put the chances away and that was it. And he had a really good World Cup where he confirmed that that place and of course there was that brilliant picture of him with Jay Z's gig at Yanki Stadium where there's the picture of him. I think it's LeBron Jay Z, Follower and Balogan and he's got this look on his face like god I don't know I end up in this photo. I've done pretty well here. That's the kind of year it's been for him. So when I saw he was going to Everton I was a little

17:59surprised. I thought maybe he would have ended up somewhere else with no disrespect to Everton. It seems at least part of it is that Everton might have been trying to get Zerke Z, so they sought to delay the deal with Balogan and keep him as a backup option which I think would inform the way that he reacted and refused to sign afterwards. Look there's everyone knows he's a good player. There will be some club in January or take the plunge for him. Whether Monaco will actually do well out of it because there's no club as easy to fleece as one that's desperate in January. I wonder if he does end up making that move to the Premier League in January instead but I think we can make a pretty educated guess in my opinion. So it's Transfer deadline week obviously. That's why we've got these questions about Transfer. There's one that sums it all up. This is from Jonathan

19:00on X which one player, this is for both of you and maybe you could take this one first, which one player desperately needed a move on deadline day but didn't get one? Well look I don't really know if it's in the spirit of Jonathan's question to answer with a player that's out of contract because if we're talking about need, well you can still sign for a team after deadline but I'm going to go from Marrow Cardi. Not only did he need a move, I needed him to get a move. Look Marrow come back, European football misses you and of course it looked like he was going to go to Laxione. Hasn't happened at least yet. He seems to be a little bit reticent about it. Cardi I think needs one last hurrah. We're talking about ultimate penalty box players. He's as good as it gets. He's still a terrific finisher. Didn't end as he wanted to end at Gallatasturai

20:05last season because he was supplanted by Victor Ozyman when he was out of his injury. Cardi's not only a constant source of tattle. He is an elite finisher. I think we're talking about how Balagun will get a move halfway through the next season. The concern with Cardi particularly after the way he didn't look in shape coming back from his ACL is if you're signing a guy who's not had a preseason. How quickly is he going to be able to contribute? That's why to go back to Jonathan's question, when I say desperately needs a move, the longer he leaves it, the less effective he'll be. And really he's not got that much time to play with. He's getting on a bit now. We need the last couple of good seasons of Cardi and he needs the last couple of good seasons of his career. Laxione you've got somebody as well who needed a move and didn't go on. I will just add that

21:06Cardi's representative has come up with one of my favorite agent quotes of the last period where he's said, okay, one thing is that he said that Laxione are courting him acidulously. Now this might be some wonky translation, but I don't think in the great vernacular of football transfers I've ever seen. I heard a club escorting someone acidulously before. I tried to quote a Google map to see if that was a phrase. I don't think that's a new one. He courted acidiously. Very nice. But he also said and I love this. Mauro is evaluating the best project. A lifestyle choice rather than an economic one. So this is where every Cardi goes. It's going to be a lifestyle choice, which I love. Mauro wants to choose a beautiful city and a wonderful place to play his football. So if your club is based in what you would consider to be a beautiful city, time to reach out to Mauro. It's a lifestyle thing, not an economic one. Maybe that raises some concerns. I do feel, I know it's been spoken about a lot everywhere, including on OTC. You can't get away from Hulean

22:09Alvarez, I think, on this question. Who is still at Adelaide Gumbadrid? And it is one of those where he has made it so clear that this is not where he wants to be. His dream was to go to one of their rivals, but they didn't want to sell to Barcelona very understandably and he didn't want to go anywhere else. So there he is. And I guess this is what like when you have a, I guess, I haven't experienced this, but hypothetically, if you're in a relationship and you sort of tell your misses or husband that you know what, I'd quite like to be with someone else and you can't make that deal work that someone else doesn't really, you can't reach your asking price or whatever. I don't know how this is meant to for really works, but you're stuck with the partner you just told that you don't want to be with anymore. It's not a good situation. It's not good. There is therapy for this sort of thing, I guess, but no, I think Alvarez is in a very bad spot and he probably, he probably should have moved really, and they're still generally on next summer for that sort of

23:10thing. I think what we've got a bear in mind though is, Adelaide Gumbadrid is comfortable with being uncomfortable. We've heard a lot of talk about how this is untenable. I don't think it is untenable. It's awkward, but it's not untenable. Who the Alvarez will be scoring goals again for them by October at the latest? There's no doubt about that. Now, part of that of course is because there's this huge Argentinian click at the club as David Cartridge was talking about a couple of weeks ago. It starts with the coach, obviously. It doesn't, it doesn't, because obviously the Agasimione is kind of angry with him at the moment. I can understand why. He sat there on every press conference last year when Julien Alvarez wasn't scoring for four months going, he's my guy. He's one of the best players in the world and he kind of gets repaid like this, so I can understand why he might be annoyed. But it's interesting that those who are maybe slightly less emotionally involved on the periphery of the situation. So like Kutu Romero, because he's only just arrived,

24:12Juan Musso, the reserve goalkeeper, he's still a big presence in that dressing room. They have been sort of tasked with putting an arm around him and making sure he's like reintegrated back into the group, which I think is quite important. So I think if the question was which player would have desperately wanted a move on Deadline Day? A particular move on Deadline Day, Alvarez might be the answer. But I think he'll continue to flourish. Whatever happens next, it's not something that is uncopable with. I like that Romero is there and one of his jobs will be to set up, I'll go to his side and say, listen, yeah, I know this is awkward. But you want to hear some stories from where I've been playing the last couple of years? I mean, it could be a lot worse. Whatever you think, if you think this is bad, boy, I can tell you some things. Do you know what this Australian man told my fullbacks to do? And I was still expected to defend.

25:15Good Lord. You know, I do like, and I do, I do like, and I do actually, I say, I should have moved. I quite like that. I'd let you just went, no, like, is you do, if you're, if you're the job of Alexi, I guess is to try to challenge Real Madrid in Barcelona somehow. And then you have to be prepared to put your foot down and possibly miss out on some money to stop them just walking all over you. I think that's an important, like sometimes there's, there's a logic of this business transaction stuff and that you should always pursue the better deal financially. And in the end, that'll be the best thing for the club. But they do actually come a time when you need to put your foot down and tell people to f off. And I think I think that admirably right here. No, honestly, it means something else in Norwegian, okay? So don't complain to me. In the language that last just chosen to choose something noble from music history, it's got an avian language, isn't it? Is it really? You know, you drive the bus. I did drive the bus. That question remains in Ask O'Cee's archives.

26:20However, this question from net on Instagram asks, can someone please tell me what's going on at Trebson's tour? And I know just a person could tell us that is our Turkia expert, Andy Bresel. I don't want to talk about it now. It's too sad. He's going on the go. So, Mo Salah, how bad can things get? And I wonder if that's contributing to the issue really, because what we've seen is the departure now of Fatih Tekka, the coach of Trebson. And he initially offered up his resignation after they were hammered in the end by Ferdinand Tvarrosh in the Europa League qualifiers. Now, maybe this works for them long term, because I think they're one of the contenders for the conference league going into it. Maybe they would have been with Salah for the Europa League, who knows, but you know, I think they've got a chance of doing something in the conference league. But he offered his

27:20resignation after they lost four-nil in Hungary in the second leg. And that was a bit of a mess. They got a player sent off early on, it all went south. And the club said no, because we've got to put it into context. Fatih Tekka has done a great job since he took over a coach of Trebson's and he's kind of legend as well. He's got a ton of goals for them. And that's in the relatively recent past. I need to admit for what he's now. He's someone who's really loved by Trebson's Boran and Trebson's Bor fans. So they wanted to give him the opportunity to continue. And so then they go to Ahmed Spor, the weekend promoted Ahmed Spor. They take the lead through a typical Salah goal. I mean, a few Liverpool fans, welling up as Fabinho Flatton, some guy in the middle of the park played it off to Salah. And then Salah goes on, cuts in from the right and

28:22smash it in with his left foot. But then after that, Ahmed Spor outplayed them. They're really good and they're two, one win, even if it can't quite lay on, was not theft at all. It was deserved. And so this time Fatih Tekka put forward his resignation and it was accepted. Which is just absolutely heartbreaking with everything that he's done. And he took over from a club that was in a bit of a mess under Genial Gugnyes before, of course the former Tokyo and Brijik Tash coach. And they were on the periphery of the title race last season as we've talked about before. And they finished right eight points off top spot, which is a really impressive effort. And so when Salah arrives, you think, okay, well they can do something, particularly with Galatasra right up until half a layout, not being that active in the market. And I just wonder,

29:30if rather than being a sleeper in the title race, having Salah means you can't hide anymore, your front and center, there's expectation where there wasn't expectation before. And I just wonder if that pressure has kind of got to everyone. Because I don't think the season is a right for for Trabs on Sport. But now, like the, the aims are so high, you've got to aim to be in the title race, you've got to aim to win the conference league. And I just wonder if it's a little bit too much, but it makes it makes me really sad that it's not going to be Fatih Tekka that takes them on. Any thoughts, Losh? Just that, yeah, that's fascinating, but just overall. Interesting, I understand. I feel the most interested in the Turkish super league I think I've ever felt this season. I wonder if I'm alone in that. Some of that is residual from when we went there and had a really good time and it made me think I should try to do this more often, but also,

30:31yeah, roughly how going to Galatasra, I we spoke about like the front line of Ossum and Leo and Leerisane. Like I want to tune in and watch that. That sounds tremendous fun. You got Vlaavits and Trossard leading the line for a Bishik does. You know, Fennel have a really solid team going and you've got this Trabs on Sport team, which I do think like will congeal and turn into a force with Mohamed Sala at the heart of it. This should be a really fun season. And I'm looking forward to watching it and actually, I haven't picked it as my game of the week, but I mean, Fennel played Bishik does at the weekend. So the honorary game of the week, optional game of the week. Good stuff. Well, on that note, it is time for you to both recommend a game of the week for everybody to watch. Each week we recommend a game for you to watch at a weekend and just as importantly, we also suggest the food that you should be having with it. Last, do you want to go first? What are you going for then in lieu of not going for the Bishik test game?

31:34Yeah, because it is still everyone's favorite time of the season, which is let's root for everyone who's playing against PSG time because PSG have started the league on season by dropping points against Ren by dropping points against Lille. No wins in the first two. And of course, yeah, you can obviously recover from that, but they play Monaco tonight and Monaco are no mugs. So it's very possible that we can have a third dropped points in a row for PSG here. It's not impossible. And then suddenly you start, okay, they have some space, there's something to make up here. So very much watching this with my Monaco goggles on. Balrogon is injured, I believe. So he shouldn't be playing a huge part, but yeah, this should be a fun one to see if PSG can lose points again. I mean, the Ren game and the two to the Lille game and the two to these have been fun either way. So I'll be watching Paris, San Shemever versus Monaco on tonight with some steak free. Steak free.

32:34Is what you're going for? Yes, I'll be watching it with some steak free because, okay, so I spent the summer in Dallas covering the World Cup. And I ate a lot of very good food. Dallas is a surprisingly good food city. Maybe this shouldn't surprise me, but if you spend some time in Dallas, I have some recommended restaurant recommendations for you, please get in touch. And one of my favorite meals was actually a steak free, but with a local Texan twist because the steak had been grilled with using the sort of miskept wood that they used in the Texas barbecue. So the steak had like the sort of smoky Texas barbecue flavor to it. But aside from that, it was made as a classic French steak free. It was like a local twist on a classic dish. And I've been thinking of it ever since. So I will try to recreate that in the comfort of my own home for PSG versus Monaco. Nicky's not going to be happy with this, but I think that could be a high point for game of the weak food. You reckon what's steak and chips? Oh, come on. What is that? It's not just steak and cheese. You do it properly. This is a very English response to what I just said.

33:41Very English. Palm free to free to steak beef. No, are you about to say? I'm lost for words. Okay. Now, I also don't really want to talk about my post-Texas experiments with brisket. That's best saved for somewhere else. Right. To be fair to large, he's gone all French. PSG versus Monaco later on, five past eight on Friday. And well, he's given us some food that is very British to eat with it. What about you, Andy? You're going to be having your tea early on Saturday, because we've gone first. Inter versus Napoli. Now, this kicks off at five. Of course, due to the blackout, you won't be able to watch the first 20 minutes or so of this unless you're particularly enterprising. I know some of our listeners are. I've got no comment on that. But this is something that feels big for Napoli already. We know that Inter are the favourites of this league. They look very good so far. We had Davey for Curtis Jones last week. And John Staines, despite

34:46the fact they dominated a Cali-Reeke and had loads of shots, only one of which went in from Hakkan, Chaleneur, who John Staines needed to be good to help them see out that game of Cali-Reeke last weekend. So, interested to see how they'll fit in C if Gede Spence gets a first go as well. Napoli weren't good last week. Obviously, there was a bit of beef between Max Illegri and Seth Crabberg-Ans from the Milan-Khoma games last season, but of course, Illegri famously called Fabregas the Child. Well, he was giggling like a child after KOMO-1 and deserved to win the Diego Marodona. So, it feels like going back to San Sido, Napoli needed a performance. They'll do it without Scott McTomey, who of course has had that minor heart procedure this week and wish them all best for that. So, it will be really tough. And if Napoli get a bad result, there's a bit of pressure on Illegri already. And talking of pressure, while I've been

35:48following a particular dietary regime, I've not had a pizza for about four months. So, I'm going to have to go for all the good things at once or as someone very wise once said to me, if you're going to do it wrong, do it right. So, it's going to be sourdough, truffle cream pizza, plenty of fungi on as well. We may be a bit of sketchy, is that like double up on the bread? Now, I might have that this weekend as well, Andy. You've sold me on that. And by the way, may I just say, I heard a yes coming from George Curley. He's supposed to be the producer, especially listening to us. Not trying to figure out what he's going to have for tea. Thank you, George. So, those are two games. Interverses, Napoli, Saturday, 5 p.m. and before that, Lash's Choice, PSG versus Monaco Friday, at 5 past 8. And that's about it from us. Thank you for listening to Ask OTC. If you'd like to ask a question, you can contact us at any time

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