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3:04made his big debut at an announcement, made the big foldable announcement. You could tell he's a hardware guy because we can get any of those numbers Tim Cook likes to say. It was all about like hardware and processors and stuff right from the start. And of course, joining us to talk about it is Sarah Lane. Sarah, what was your takeaway overall on the announcement? Well, you know, I was, I was, hi everyone. I was, I was wondering how John Ternis's, you know, big debut was going to be. We got a little Tim Cook off the top. Oh, yeah, we got the handover. That's right. For anybody who, you know, who watched with, you know, the whole thing as we did, which I thought was, I thought was nice. And then it was kind of like just me being like, all right, man, can you do this? What do you, what do you got? Because I don't know him, you know, he's been behind the scenes for so long. So it was a very interesting event for a variety of reasons.

4:07We got a lot of, a lot of updates and, and, and unveils. But for the most part, I thought he did good. Yeah, yeah. Slightly different style, but not that different, frankly, you know, just different presentation style because he had a different guy, right? I mean, the whole, the whole apple announcement thing has become very, you know, like we do it beforehand. You know, like no one's going to f up. Yeah, you know, like that, we've been doing that for a while. So I mean, the, the sort of polish nature of it doesn't, I don't know, it doesn't really rattle me, but, but it definitely was. I mean, there were a lot of greens, greens going on. Yeah. Yeah, count the greens, greens would be a fun game. Yeah. If you want to rewatch it. Well, let's start with the big one. The final announcement at the very end, I believe he may have even said one more thing, although he didn't make a big deal out of it. He said another thing. Another thing. That's what it was. Yeah. So maybe that's the new John Ternis version of one more thing.

5:08It was the foldable phone iPhone Duo, Apple's first foldable has a 5.4 inch outer display, 7.6 inner display has the new A20 Pro, which is also in the iPhone 18 Pro, has its own display engine, uses touch ID. They went into all the details on the hinge and the screen and how all that works. Are you sad that we have to wait until October 16th to pre-order it for $2,000? That's the starting price, 256 gigabytes, up to two terabytes and of course, shipping October. Up to two terabytes. Yeah. By the way. In a phone. Yeah. It's like 256. I mean, I could survive with that. It's a squeeze buy on that. But two terabytes. I mean, who doesn't want that? Yeah. That's a big distinction. What's your top takeaways from the fold? Mine. Yeah.

6:08So, well, we knew this was coming. And Mark Garman over at Bloomberg had mentioned already that it was going to be called the iPhone Duo, which it is. So I wouldn't say I was super surprised about anything. But at the same time, just this very, very different form factor for Apple is a big deal. And Apple is clearly catching up to many other companies who have been doing this for years. We know this. And that was sort of like, okay, how are they going to introduce this to people who either just haven't ever had a foldable before or just, you know, think that like the Samsung option is better. And that's where Apple really shines. Apple is like, here's how this is going to change your life. A friend of mine who was watching the announcement at the same time as me was like, wow.

7:11So like, I don't need an iPad anymore. Yeah. And I was like, huh, that's an interesting question. Because I don't, I mean, Apple certainly is not trying to like reduce that category. But at the same time, it's offering something that can do more or less what a tablet could do and a phone could not. Yeah, I think that's one of the most impressive parts of their demonstration is a 1.4 to 1 aspect ratio on both screens. So that your screen looks the same when you're closed or open. FaceTime camera behind the display is a nice touch so that you don't have to see it. You see it when you're doing a FaceTime call so you know where it is, but it goes away the rest of the time. I thought they did a good job of explaining all of their hardware innovations. The hints, the magnets. The carbon fiber support, the titanium backplate, the polymer first scratch resistance, all of that sort of stuff.

8:13Which is maybe, which is maybe the, you know, the term us era. Yeah, let's talk about how we did this. Yeah, I thought they spent more time talking about that than I would have expected under the Tim Cook era. And then camera, you know, talking about the fact that this is mostly the same camera that you're going to get in the iPhone 18. Because I think a lot of people have that question of like, well, camera's very important to me. Do I want to get the foldable? What am I going to compromise if I do that? But you get the same ultra wide, you get the 2x telephoto. It is pretty much the same one. Yeah, you got that 820 pro chip. And yeah, you're often running. When do you, what are your thoughts on the Apple foldable? I like it. I like it. No, I like it a lot. I do think that it being all the do with hilarious. I really like this device. I an Android user, but I love foldables. And so of course, we're all waiting to see what Apple did with it. And I think they honestly took all the lessons that the Android side has been learning, that we've been learning.

9:18And all of us users have been complaining out for years. And they basically paperved over a lot of those rough edges. I think to be fair, the squatty, the squatty aspect is what we've been calling it. Probably could find a better name for that. Is brilliant. I do wonder whether everyone just kind of scooped Apple on that a little bit knowing that it would be like basically an iPad mini folded in half. But the aspect ratio was great. And the things that people complain about, even at line flat, because I remember when the OG Pixel Fold came out, people were complaining about it lying flat. They mentioned it, life, it lays flat. It's got a horizontal camera bar, which means like more room for accessories on the bottom with the MagSafe. The screen has that amazing glass, which should hopefully address creasing and creasing issues, as well as any kind of like scratches, because infamously most Android foldables have that very, very soft inner screen. So using something like a stylus is kind of like a, or even getting any kind of like crumb in there is like is like fraught. So they did that. It's IP68, which again, as good as like say things like the Z Fold 8 have been,

10:24the Samsung's are not IP68. The Pixel Fold is, but it's a lot thicker and heavier. The iPhone do is not. It's just about as thin as a Z Fold, I believe, and just as light. So that's pretty amazing. And even little things like there was that really great match cut animation that they do when you open it and close it, and just gives that little bit of like, you know, Apple magic on it there that really kind of brings everything together. I think that did an amazing job. I honestly want one of these phones just because I'm an Android user, but I also enjoy technology. I used to be an IOS developer, and I think that we have a lot like like we, I say we, the Android OEMs will hopefully, you know, as much as we, yeah, collective we will take inspiration of that. I think again, as you mentioned the camera, the one thing that has been pretty consistent with foldables on the Android side or foldables rather is that the camera is always a, a is something that you know, you kind of compromise. I appreciate them, them kind of emphasizing that. And like other things like even the folding mode, the tent mode and the laptop mode, very notably, even though Android has introduced features to take advantage of this,

11:32the Z Fold 8 again, being probably the most popular Android foldable right now lacks all of that. So I just see all the, oh, in the MagSafe, just the fact that has MagSafe, whereas again, Samsung doesn't have MagSafe built in. It's Qi 2 ready, but not cheap, but not actual Qi 2 compliant. Like it, it's just, there's all these wonderful things that it's just a great device. Yeah, just little touches, right? Little touches, a great device. I know we'll wait to see how the actual people get in their hands. Is the form factor great? How does the glass actually hold up to creasing? I think they did a great job. I know it took forever, but that's a very Apple thing, right? To really get it right. I think you said it best when it's like Apple just sat back quietly and was like, let's just see what the Android people are doing. Yeah, I think the Squatty is winning. We see Samsung and Google doing, okay, we're going with the Squatty. And then we're, yeah, and the MagSafe introduced our own version and the rest of us, well, you know, some of us, we'll say like, wow, cool. What a great form factor. I'm in.

12:33Yeah, the joke being like, oh, it's great that Apple finally invented the foldable toe. Right. If it pushes innovation forward on the other side of the aisle, I'm for it. And again, I just like the form factor a lot. I love the productivity aspect of it. And again, even the little like, even the little gesture touches and the way they're doing multi-tasking, multi-wind doing very impressed. Yeah, I think the software is one of the things that'll differentiate it. I mean, we talked about the hardware and the crease and the lay flat and all of that. And it looks like that will turn out to be an advantage. But the one thing when I'm looking at my pixel fold and looking at this is like, yeah, this looks more seamless, where I'm not going to notice so much that I've gone from the front to the inside. It's going to like, I can just put it in tent mode. I can put it in laptop mode and will automatically do that. And Android does some of that. But it looks like Apple is doing it really well. And if it is as seamless as they want to present, which you know, they always make it look better in the presentation, then it doesn't realize.

13:36Then I think it will be cool. I wonder what apps work for this all the time, right? There's going to be those apps like, oh, that one doesn't do it. That one didn't adapt because it's not integrated properly. Well, that's the question, right? Is like, what do you do on your iPhone currently? And, you know, we all have, you know, the three four apps that, you know, if we're being honest, like are the only ones that we used, you know, all the time. Do we, does that change with a different form factor? And again, if you have an iPhone and an iPad and a Mac, you know, how does this particular model change the way that you do your work? And I, I don't have the answer. That's, that's actually my question. When I know you've done development on your foldables before, like, so, yeah, it's interesting. Yeah. That's, these are all great questions. I will point out that something that, again, I, I'm an Android Slack community. A lot of Android, a lot of iOS users in there. So we are often comparing and trusting in regards to support.

14:44I will say that the Slack that Slack that they showed with that two paying view that is not an Android. And this is a thing that happens. And in fact, I guess that my company, other companies because they know that, that these was coming out, there have been initiatives to work on adaptable sizing, you eyes. So not only, and that this is, this is something that that Apple has been very good at to some extent, Google does it too, but they're very good at basically making developers jump when they say jump and, and how and, and having them at high. They're very good at that. And that's again, the kind of, that's the power. And I think this device actually is a good distillation of why in particular, this particular model that Apple does with being both the, the single hardware manufacturer as well as the people making the software and that tight integration. And that kind of high quality, it's things like that animation from open to close that you get which I, and I, I'm not 100% sure, but given the Android is an ecosystem and it's a, it's a more broader system. There are things that Apple can do the tight together and they can make developers do things like support and certain apps. And I will say that also generally speaking.

15:51And I think that people are going to be more aware of iOS, they have been for the last 10, 12 years. No, I'm not sad about that. And they will, they will focus on this. I'm sure there are a lot of companies that are, I know, I know there are a lot of friends, Android friends and iOS friends on teams out there that this has been on their radar and their priority is supporting this and maybe they'll throw some love over Android large screens to begin with. I wouldn't be surprised. It will be a factor because that's one thing that's still an issue on Android is that there are a lot of apps, a lot of commonly used apps like Instagram, it comes right off my head that are still absolutely horrible experiences on a larger device because they just kind of shrink into portrait mode and you got tons of space and it's really about to use. I would say that I expect it to be better on iOS and in the iPhone duo, but I don't know how much. I don't, I, this is definitely pushing really hard, which hopefully the high tide lifts all of our, our mobile boats, but I don't know how. I don't know how hard that will push. I just not not familiar. So we'll see. All right. Let's talk about the iPhone 18 pro and the pro max. These are, they pitched them mostly with the Apple intelligence features.

16:57They are a similar design to the 17 pro new H20 pro chip in there, though. So there was a little talk about that. Also brand new colors, glacier and burgundy for the first time. Apple also added a reference image feature. So that you can digitally authenticate a photo taken with the camera at the pixel layer. It stays with the image. They're going to support synth ID too, but they have their own on top of that. Apple also has, oh, let's talk a little about the H20 pro to nanometer, a 20 pro six core CPU. Two of those are desktop class cores, seven core GPU up to 40% faster and 32 neural engine cores because they've got two basically 16 neural engines chips next to each other. And the camera has variable aperture, which is really interesting. I think it has it in the foldable as well, but, but the actual like blades are in there so that it can, it can automatically contract or expand automatically based on the kind of picture you're taking.

18:00Sarah, after the glory of the foldable, how does the iPhone 18 pro strike you? Well, it strikes me as a really great phone. I'm still rocking the 15 pro max. So, you know, I'm a few cycles behind, but at the same time, it's like, it's a great phone. Now, what I do think that Apple does, and I think that every time Apple has an announcement about a camera that's better, they start to speak to advertising agencies. It's kind of like, I mean, what are we all doing with, you know, with the camera? Like are we filmmakers? If we are great, you know, it's, we can do that. But I felt like today watching the event was sort of like we are talking to people who want to use the camera in order to, you know, sell things online. That was just kind of my takeaway. And that's not wrong. That's, I mean, that you want a good camera to be able to do those things. But I do feel like as a consumer, unless again, you are just like, you know,

19:12again, you are just really like hyped up about photography and everything that you get out of it. Some of that stuff is a little bit lost on me. Yeah, a lot of it is for advertising and influencing, right? Which are two big things. There was, there was some interesting Apple intelligence stuff like expressive voices for you to customize Siri, 16 languages. So, we're going to get French Japanese, Korean Portuguese and Spanish in October for Siri AI. A lot of stuff about the custom packaging and the side by side memory of the A20 pro there. You can tell the hardware guys in charge because they got to spend a lot of time talking about the A20 pro. But yeah, I think you're right. Most of the big sell here is either Apple intelligence on device, which we kind of knew after WDC or the camera. Yeah. And listen, I mean, I'm never going to be like, I don't care about cameras. I do. But what am I doing with that? You know, if that is part of my livelihood, then it really matters to me.

20:18And I think that's who Apple is speaking to. A lot of people, even if it doesn't matter to them, they they react to they're like, oh, I got pro controls. I can set the aperture and shutter speed. I got smart focus tracking. The one that caught my eye was audio that's only in frame so that if like if you're film that this happens to be a concert game, I think I don't hear myself singing. I want them singing the video. Stuff like that. I don't know if you if you had too many takeaways on the iPhone 18 pro, when what did you think? It looks nice. Sorry. I'm very much an Android user. So I mean, I know that the amazing devices and I was curious to see more about what the Apple intelligence looked like. And everything seems impressive. I feel like there's like a bunch of core features that were all kind of like, you know, kind of as a society of mobile users are kind of focusing on and kind of what I'm trying to say, like zeroing in on. I did really like the rampal like feature and someone in again, my developer chat mentioned that all of these things, especially like things like ramble could be really great accessibility features.

21:18And I think that is one thing that Apple excels in is that accessibility story they happen for a long time in the continue to be. So I'd be excited to kind of see again, like more of this actually in the hands of real people and seeing how it does. But yeah, I think it's exciting time. And ramble, of course, if anybody doesn't know on Android is like you can just kind of say something and then a Gemini will make sense of it for you. There was a feature like that for Siri. And it's like, well, you got Gemini under the hood. So, you know, not not surprising that they took their adapted Gemini model and did a similar thing. iPhone Pro 6.3 inch screen starts at $1199 256 gigabytes also up to two or two terabytes that you can put in there. Quite a bit more expensive though if you do that. And then the iPhone Pro Max is the 6.9 inch screen that one starts at $100 more $1,299. I also just before we get off the subject of the pro and the pro max, the pro max had used to be like, and if you want a bigger screen, let's talk about the pro max.

22:22The pro max was barely mentioned. It was just the bigger screen. That was it. Yeah, it was just like you want the pro of the pro max. That's it. You want to pay out for the pro max doesn't have anything that the pro doesn't have at this point. No, that's good point. You can they did talk about their monthly leasing the new Apple upgrade system. They talked about they introduced Apple care one family to people. You can pre order the iPhone pro and pro max September 12. So in three days from when we're recording and then it'll ship on September 18. Also, they didn't mention this in the announcement, but we did get the news that iOS 27 with Siri AI coming September 14 for older iPhone. So four days before the shipping of the new iPhone, which is about standard. Let's talk about the Apple watch series 12 and ultra four, both with a new S 11 chip, but you upgraded health tracking, an audio intelligence feature. So it can recap your day by listening and taking notes. It could recap a meeting. It can give you the last 15 seconds of a conversation.

23:24They used a weird Dick restaurant demo of that where the waiter was saying a lot of menu specials really fast, which I thought it would be rude if you just looked at them and then started tapping your watch to hear what they just said. But anyway, there's also a readiness feature that's kind of like a lot of what you get from Garmin and Fitbit. Based on your overall, like, yeah, it's like a score. So yeah, increased electrode surface area for better ECG redesign photo diodes and the green LED's are larger, which will be better and more efficient for your heart rate. But overall, I didn't think this was the kind of upgrade where you're like, oh, I'm really tempted, even though I have the current one. It's it was a more evolutionary, not revolutionary upgrade. I mean, I'm rocking the series seven and it's fine. You know, Tom and I talked about this on an upcoming live with it episode. But, but yeah, I think that, you know, Apple saying like our heart rate sensing best in the business. It's like, okay.

24:32Yeah, when they tested against strapped ones and all of that. Yeah, like, I mean, if that's true, that's great. Not everybody cares about that on the same level. But, you know, let's just, you know, let's say we all do. You've got the readiness based on your overall, you know, score. You've got insights based on Apple intelligence that, you know, try and redesign health app gives you all of that. Yeah, keeping you healthy, new cardio fitness options. And, yeah, I mean, the whole thing to me is like, great. I think that it is lost on a lot of people who are just like, I don't want to track myself that way. For the rest of us, and I know all three of us here do really care about that. This is, this is a pretty cool option. But it's not your only option. So, you know, here's Apple kind of trying to keep up with the garments and the fitness. Yeah. And when as someone who has all of those.

25:32I do actually have all of those. Yeah, no, I honestly, I'd have an Apple watch if it actually integrated with Android because it's already been an amazing option for health tracking. I know a lot of my Android friends jump ship to iOS because of the Apple watch because a lot of them are runners, cyclists and like that. I'd say like, yeah, this is definitely coming on par. Like I said, readiness is something that pretty much everyone has their own version of. I'm curious about the AI insights because that is something, of course, that Google is doing with their Fitbit, with all of their Fitbits. Is it safe to assume that this is also possibly powered by Gemini as well? It was powered by Apple Intelligence, which is a modified version of Gemini. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, we talked about kind of my experiences with, you know, the health app of the Google Health app, Sarah on Libra with it, where it's fine. Like I think it, and I think you're right on the point that a lot, that this is going to be a loss on a lot of people. I mean, I enjoyed hearing them talk about what HRV is and what it means because I already care about it a lot. But it's going to be lost on a lot of people.

26:33And I always wonder with, especially with companies like Apple, like Google, like Samsung, what niche are they trying to fill? And are they making any headway on it? Because there already are hyper-enthusiast devices out there, Garmin, Garmin to a large extent, and other devices, whoop, of course. I wonder what this does for Apple, whether it's just, hey, we have these things too, so that they don't, they're not missing anything. But I'm not, I'm not blown away either. These are all kind of like, yeah, health, like integration of all health records. All of these other things are things that everyone else already has. So it's maybe just like, hey, we, you know, leveling the playing field. Table stakes. Yeah. Table stakes, exactly. Yeah. And if you missed it, health, the age, longevity, are two of those tabs in the health app, but those will come to the other watches too. A lot of these features are like, not exclusive to the new watch, either like syncing your health records or ordering labs from Quest or something like that, which is coming later this year. Apple Watch Series 12 available in ceramic now, along with its usual materials.

27:34And the Air Mez version gets a radiant gold titanium if you can afford the Air Mez version. Not the Air Mez version, but the regular Apple Watch Series 12 starts at $399. And the Ultra 4, 50 hours of battery life, 18 hours with workout tracking, $799. Preorder now shipping September 18th. And those prices are the same as the previous series. So, yeah, they did not give us the, and these are the watches that will stay in stock, which they usually do. So it'll be, I'll be curious if they keep the series 11 and the ultra three available and whether they do price reductions on those or not. Last thing we got was AirPods 5, which take away is better active noise cancellation. These are available in two models, AirPods 5 for $129, or if you want wireless charging case and the little ability to swipe for volume control $149.

28:37Again, these are the AirPods, not the AirPods Pro. So if you're like, wait, didn't they have a lot of these features? That's what they did. And that was when I was first like, wait, I mean volume, that's... That's an AirPods Pro feature. Exactly, because I have the AirPods Pro. I was like, who doesn't do that? But yes, yeah. Wireless charging case, also an AirPods Pro thing that you can now get if you pay for the higher end AirPods 5. Preorder now for those shipping September 18th. So there you go. Big day for John Ternis, big day for Apple. And there's still lots more to think about, lots more to talk about, lots more to evaluate. So Sarah, you're going to be doing a roundtable on all of this stuff that we're going to put up this weekend. Yes, along with Jen Cutter and Nika Monford and Terrence Gaines from the Snobbo as podcast. We're all getting together. The show will go up on Saturday. We wanted to have a little bit of time to just think about, okay, what did we hear about? What do we want?

29:38You know, what were we interested in? Or maybe not that interested in? And we're going to give that to you. It'll come out on Saturday. Fantastic. Well, thank you Sarah for jumping in and chatting with us. Of course. And we'll talk to you on the show again tomorrow. Sounds good. Have a good show everybody. DTNS is made possible by you, the listener. Big thanks to Nick Gushlow, Kirk Stephenson, Miranda Jannell, and that, Charlie Doo. Episode prep gets messy when research, slack threads, and script trackers are all in different places. That's where chatGPT work comes in. Give it the goal and connect to the tools where work happens, like apps and files, and it can help pull the pieces into a draft you can review without you having to re-explain the project at every step. For example, chatGPT work can gather team feedback from Slack and use it to suggest updates to a project brief in Google Docs.

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33:47Quote, we are on track for a lot of the most aggressive of these scenarios where, by the end of next year, things could be out of control already. Coxon left OpenAI earlier this year to join Anthropic because he preferred its approach to safety. Several researchers have left OpenAI Anthropic and other companies previously for similar reasons. Anthropics leader of Alignment Science rather wrote on X. Quote, Jacob is correct here. We really do earnestly believe AI could kill all humans. I personally think it is greater than 10% within the next decade. I believe Anthropic is trying its best, but we do not yet have a plan to solve alignment for superintelligence and are not clearly on track too. Meanwhile, Anthropic declined to submit Mythos 5.1 to the UK's AI Secured Institute for Testing before released. It was only released to US organizations. Yeah. Jacob Coxon, leaving to me, felt like one of the more higher profile versions of someone who's worried about this. My question in those is always like, what are they going to do next? That's what I'm curious about.

34:50When Ilias Sutskovur left and then began his own operation to try to promote safety. I still have that question about Jacob Coxon. I'm curious. He's very concerned about this. He's very knowledgeable. I want to see what he does. The post from Anthropics leader of Alignment Science really threw me. I almost feel like it's irresponsible. Yes. But it's also very much in the vein of what Anthropic does, which is scare tactics about safety, which I don't even think are in there necessarily their own best interests. If they really believe this, then they should be in a different business is what I think. If that's true, then you should be doing something different than what you're doing. Don't be like, yeah, I think it could kill us all, but hey, you know, who are we to stop developing it? Something doesn't track there. Yeah, it's really weird because I feel like normally if you want to be cynical about it, most companies, if they believe that their technology was at this much of a risk, but either not say that out loud and cover it up or, you know, like just corporate speak for covering up such things and not be so blively like,

35:54yeah, sure. Greater than 10% chance of killing everybody. And it is kind of like, well, do you want to stop? Do you want to like tell me? And what are you doing about it? And it's not like this is happening in isolation. We've got obviously Bernie Sanders and calling for, you know, like, like, I don't necessarily agree with that. I don't necessarily agree with all of the perspectives, but like, yeah, there's definitely public call, like the peat, like normal ordinary people are already upset about, like kind of like the side effects of all this development technology, like data centers and everything else and job, just job market disruption. It feels very odd to sit here and have all this input come in. And again, I think we could classify that some people tended to think of anthropogaz the at some point in time ethical AI company and to hear them say that it does feel very dissonant and very odd to feel like with the phrase like polish. It feels like it's like the people that someone's polishing the silverware on the Titanic. Yeah, right. Right. But a little bit like, so you want to do something about it? Like everyone's leaving. I personally think it's greater than 10% within the next decade.

36:54I believe inthropic is trying its best. But we are working on a plan to solve alignment. And we would like to create a global interagency, you know, effort to reach a clear plan for alignment for super intelligence and containment. Is what I want to hear him say? Yeah, not not, but we don't have a plan. So I don't know. I'm just going to go back to work now. Yeah, it's, it's really odd. I'm not surprised. I'm surprised by my lack of surprise, but I would have expected a lot more, especially from an anthropic, frankly speaking. So we'll see. Yeah. Open AI says one of its unreleased models solves the Navier Stokes Millennium Prize problem, which would be historic. The equations explain how fluids move. Open AI said approximately 10,000 agents worked on the problem. However, some mathematicians who have been doing work getting close to the problem, NYU mathematician Tristan Buckmaster and an anthropic researcher Levant Alpagui, have also been working on this research.

37:56And Buckmaster wrote publicly that he suspected open AI might have used prompts he put into codex to help them in their research. Buckmaster says we're one of the only people that were taking this approach. It seems coincidental that the codex and their agents took a similar approach. Buckmaster also alleges that open AI researcher Sebastian Bubek wanted to remove Alpagui from authorship because he worked for Anthropic. Open AI denies accessing Buckmaster or Alpag's specific user data for the proof. They did say, well unlikely, we cannot rule out that de-identified data derived from their usage of our products helped improve our models. Open AI does not train on inputs and outputs from enterprise users, and personal users can opt out. But if you don't opt out, then some of that data is not associated with you, but it just goes into the pool of training data. I think that's what they're saying is like, well, if they were using a version where they had not it out,

38:56then some of that data could have down the road informed them. But what they are trying directly to say is we didn't go spy on their use of codex. So fascinating, especially since I don't necessarily give this point of view, but a lot of people are postulating that prompt engineering is going to replace current programming and other engineering. So in a sense, do we have the structure for understanding IP in regards to prompting and data? I mean, to some extent, but not really. So it's fascinating. Yeah, and this is another, this is a very small example of what we were talking about earlier were like, well, we need a framework for that so that we can judge this stuff better. Yes, please. Well, we have to thank RWNatch for this next one and a learning to, learning us to it on the DTNAS subreddit. Microsoft September patch fixes a record 972 vulnerability with 112 of them being rated as high critical severity. Last month, Microsoft patched a record 620 and a record of 570, the months before that. Just break in records every single month. Boom boom boom.

39:56Yeah, I think this is a good news story because they are keeping up and patching more things than ever, which means that they are making it more secure. So I take that as a positive meta announced a personal agent called Muse, which is designed to anticipate your needs and work longer than typical chatbots. But do all the agentic stuff like, you know, do shopping for you or whatever you want. It has a separate app called Sentinel that will make sure it doesn't do things without your permission. And there's some personalization stuff. You can name your agent, you can create an avatar for it, you can customize its communication style. You can use this for free. Meta says that for most people, that'll be good enough. But if you are a power user, you can pay for additional use and capacity for $20 a month or $100 a month. Muse is available right now in the United States on Android, iOS and the web. Well, Suno announced new models for its music creation service that are trained entirely on a new data set that includes licensed data

40:58from music, music label partners, Warner music and BMG. Well, that's progress in the short. Sorry. Yeah. Open AI released chat GPT images 2.5. Among the improvements, it can output in 2K resolution, has non-latin language expertise and the ability to make a sketch in chat GPT and then have your sketch turned into a full image. Well, Waymo launched its service on Lift and Nashville, the first market where it is available from both, the Waymo app and partner. Yeah, usually it's been either or, now it's both. That's interesting. Prime Minister of the United Kingdom declined to support a moratorium on building new data centers in the country, saying it's important for communities to see the benefits of data centers, which he said can be the magnet that clusters in other investments over time. Well, Motang noted that the Tom's R-Restory about a person posting on Reddit that they found more than 30 sticks of DDR4, 266, 266,000, 266,000, RAM in their garage.

42:00Goals. From an old server, very old. His employer had given him when it was retired. He estimates the RAM is worth, wait for it, about $12,000, but can only be used in servers like Xeon, is it Epic or... Yeah, it's Epic. Epic or Threadropper systems. Yeah, so this is not going to, this is not RAM you're going to put in your personal machine, you know, because people were like, can you send me a stick? It's like, is that going to be work for you? But you could sell it to a data center, for sure. Yeah, that's a, sitting on a gold mine. Thanks to Greg N who posted this one on the DTNS subreddit. The Guardian reports on internal documents from several US police departments said, New York City, Maine, California cities, issuing warnings about the fact that citizens might record them with Meta's smart glasses, which of course could be used for criminal or terrorist purposes. And the US installed 20.2 gigawatt hours of battery capacity in Q2 2026, a new record for the country,

43:03and enough storage to power about 700,000 homes. Overall, the US is on track to install 71 gigawatt hours of battery capacity in 2026, and that's a 70% increase over 2025. That's, there's a long way to go on battery, but that's encouraging. And a lot of it is not in the home. Some of it is people putting them in the homes, but a lot of it is on the power side of stuff for like solar arrays and things. If you have feedback about anything that gets brought up on the show, please do reach out to us. One way to do it is on social networks at DTNS Show on X Instagram Threads, Blue Sky, and Mastodon for TikTok and YouTube. You can find us at Daily Tech News Show. Being a serious business owner takes hard work, patience, and a drive to keep moving forward. So it's important to find a serious business card that goes the extra mile. With the Venture X Business Card from Capital One, you earn unlimited double miles on every purchase.

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45:08I haven't visited since smartphone eSems became a mainstream thing, and I wondered if you were the DTS audience had experience with them specifically in Japan. I've been recommended a company called Saley, which I hadn't heard of, and I downloaded an app called Erilo, which was well reviewed in the UK App Store and seems reasonably priced. But I've not signed up for anything yet. I'd welcome any recommendations or advice. I only really care about data, not calls and texts. Having all three is probably better, but I'm assuming just looking for data is simpler and probably cheaper. Arigato, Nate. Brilliant. I actually cheat a bit. I use Google Fi, so it generally rolls into my life. You just roamed. Yeah, but I have used eSems in the past because when I had a cheaper Google Fi plan, and we decided not to get a pocket Wi-Fi, which if you're not aware, it's been like a little pocket Wi-Fi device that you bring with you. It was a standard for a very, very, very long time for connectivity for Japanese travelers. Did you bought a separate eSem?

46:08Yeah. I also use Google Fi roaming on my fold, but for the iPhone, I have T-Mobile, which also gives me free roaming. But I've found that it can be spotty. So I went with Erilo, because I have used them. I found them on eSem database, and they've worked very well for me, although I did have a problem with them in England, oddly. They were great in Switzerland, though. They were great in Germany, and they've been great in Japan and Korea. And when I went to Japan at the end of July, I used Erilo, and it was great. And I configured the iPhone so that Erilo was always my primary connection, but I kept the T-Mobile one active, so that if the data wasn't great from Erilo, it would switch over to T-Mobile. And between those two, you have a few dropouts here and there when you're traveling through rural areas on train, maybe, or something like that. But for the most part, it was great. And it worked really well for me, and it was reasonably priced. You can get them in whatever days you need, and whatever megabytes you think you need, or unlimited.

47:10So Erilo was the one I've used. I've never used saly. Right, I don't know if you used saly in the past, or anything like that. Yeah, I have. It was relatively simple. I do believe that there are certain, like, for Erilo, do you need, like, an East and per country, or something like that? It depends on the plant. So you can buy them for a single country, or you can buy them for a region, and they've got different regions in there. Okay, I think saly is a pretty budget option. If I am remembering correctly, they do data only, which is why I was kind of so-so on them, because I was trying to get a Japanese number. But yeah, yeah. But I do think saly, I've seen them at least advertised a lot from creators. They seem to be pretty solid. I didn't really have a problem when I used it. It was pretty straightforward. The app is very straightforward. And I do think they're a little more budgeted. And again, I believe it might depend on the plant, but I think they generally have mostly data only plants. So if you're looking, I think it also depends on your budget. And if you really want to go super budgety and save money, maybe look at saly. But I'm with you. Well, I'm not with you. I haven't tried Erilo yet, but I've heard nothing but great things.

48:11Although I think most of these countries, if you're staying within the big three cities, Tokyo, Kyoto, and Osaka, you're going to be fine. But as Tom said, if you're going out to the rural areas or if you're on a train, you might drop out. But generally should be good. But yeah, most of the time you're good. The other thing I would point out is if you are interested in phone, which I know Nate says he's probably not worried about. A lot of countries have different rules on getting a phone number. So I would recommend going to a local provider's counter in the airport. That's when I wanted to get a phone number in Seoul. I went to the LGU plus counter and said, I would like the plan that gives me a phone number. And then they have to look at your passport and your ID. But you can get one. And it's temporary. And it doesn't cost actually that much more than the data only plants. But that's one of the reasons you only see data only so much is that a lot of countries are like, no, you got to show an ID if you want a phone number. If you just want data, that's fine. Yeah, I think the same is it not because I consider getting a phone. But I've only ever said for a couple weeks, which feels a little bit short for a phone.

49:12But if I was going to see for a month or longer, yeah, definitely say we can get it not eight to eight. There was there was a time when you needed a phone number to do reservations for certain things, which is why I did it in the past. But I think that time has passed now. Yeah, go go and go to tab a tab at dog tab it tab a log table log table log table table log table log. And you can do reservations now actually, since I last been even last year their English website is much better. They're much more fully featured. You can get reservations there. So enjoy Nate enjoy Japan. Hopefully you get a good eSIM service and let us know which one you picked and what you liked about it. And if any of you are thinking about anything, whether that's the impending doom of AI, the iPhone duo or how to get your data in foreign countries, let us know feedback at dailytechnoshow.com. Thanks to Nate for contributing to today's show thanks to Sarah Lane for being with us today. And thank you for being along for daily tech news show. You're the folks who keep us in business. Become a patron. Keep this stuff coming. patreon.com slash DTNS.

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