Antifa: Lessons From Seattle

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1:02And the only precious metals company I recommend to my family, friends and viewers. All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk show hour two is underway. We are joined by Jason Rance, a Seattle survivor. Sometimes Seattle resident and it's got a website Seattle red dot com Seattle red dot com. Jason, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk show. It's good to see you. Good to see you. Thanks for having me. You know, we were on a show last night together with Katie Pavlich and news nation arguing about the virtues of sanctuary cities. And we had the what is that guy's name? Chris Han the aggressive. And we were I couldn't hear you half the time because he kept interrupting us. So I was like, Jason, we have to have you back on the show. So explain to us what is going on in Seattle, then relate it to Minnesota. You have been around these communist front groups longer than just about anybody in the country. You see it up close and personal in the Pacific Northwest. How big is this movement? How militarized are they? How organized are they?

2:05Explain it for our audience. Please Jason Rance. So it is very organized, but it's not nearly as large as it once was. And I was thinking about it this morning for a column I'm doing. I mean, go back to Black Lives Matter in 2020. And this was right at the start really of the pandemic before a lot of people came to their senses. And they were terrified to go outside because we were told not to. And yet there were millions of people nationwide who actually did in fact take to the streets. And that was all based on a lie cut to what's been going on for the last few months. The organizing has arguably gotten even more favorable press coverage. There's still a lot of misinformation and just flat out lies happening. And yet we're not seeing the same number of people out on the ground. It's the same folks over and over and over again who are showing up in shorts. It's grown a little bit. There's no doubt about that. And not everyone who shows up to these protests are sort of that professional activist class. But the same level of organizing, the same level of strategy is that play.

3:06And it's this progressive protest industrial complex where you've got a bunch of folks. In this case, either activists within the community who are part of the organization. Or it's Democrat lawmakers far left lawmakers who are encouraging you in this case to interfere with ice operations. Go out there, get in their faces, put your bodies on the line. And they end up creating a situation in which someone likes Alex Freddie ends up getting killed. Then they use that death to create more outrage that then just creates that vicious circle. To get more people to then go out and interfere with ice and put their bodies on the line. And then lead to this next confrontation that ends up taking someone's life. And it just makes folks a whole bunch of money. It gets people more follows on social media. And it gets them more favorable press coverage. And we see this happening over and over and over again. It's not going to stop. But it's certainly not growing at the same level that the BLM movement grew.

4:10And that's obviously a good thing because it means at least some of the American voters. The average person is looking at this are saying, OK, we want sensible immigration reform. We want some semblance of immigration law being enforced. And they're not following for the far left position that underlines everything that they're doing here. They are against on the radical left all enforcement of immigration laws. That is a radical position that is not shared by the vast majority of this country. And I think that explains why we're not seeing this movement grow. At the same level as we saw during the BLM movement. So Jason, you've seen this unfold over a pretty long period of time in Seattle. They've had Antifa type stuff for ages. They had the explosion of homelessness there. It felt like Seattle was in really severe crisis about five years ago. I remember Seattle is dying and all of that. And it seems to me obviously it's still a blue city. Obviously it still has a lot of problems. But it does seem to have pulled back from the autonomous zone level crisis.

5:14They were in. Are there any lessons from that for how the whole country might regard this national Antifa as they? How do people kind of how do you defeat this process that they enact on us to use that kind of weaponized weakness against the system? Well, it's interesting because had we had this conversation a few months ago. My answer would have been a little bit more clear as it's going to be because unfortunately the voters just took a giant step backwards or took a mile backwards. Because after all that nonsense with the autonomous zone that the voters put in place someone who is at least perceived to be a little bit more moderate. Now I didn't view our last mayor as moderate. But he was booted out of office for a socialist and open socialist who has already instituted a bunch of plans that's sending us back in the wrong direction. So I don't know if Seattle voters learn their lesson. Now if you look back and you're just kind of do we be like me and you look at the general. I don't know algorithm of voters here is the Seattle base of radicals.

6:17They push us very, very, very far to the left. Then the voters say, OK, let's dial it back a notch. Then you see some results, but then they go and say, OK, well, now that we saw some of course correction, let's go back in the crazy direction. And so that's where we're at right now. We're headed back in that crazy direction. And you know, this whole idea of the protesters and how organized they are like yesterday. There was yet another march in downtown Seattle, you know, ruining all the traffic again. And they were doing this because they wanted to speak in solidarity with what's going on in Minneapolis. Again, it's the same people who show up every single time who are engaged in this. And they're allowed to do whatever it is they want to do because they're doing it for some quote unquote righteous position. And that that's how it's going to unfold. I imagine there's going to be another one today and another one tomorrow and it's going to be the same people showing up. So I don't know if we've actually truly learned a lesson because we never seem to learn our lesson for more than four years at a time. Yeah, and you're talking Katie Wilson. She's a real peach, by the way.

7:17And you guys are going to have a massive problem with Somali fraud rings as well in the state of Washington. They are rampant there. Jonathan Cho, who's with TPO say front lines has been doing investigations on that. This is an emerging story that you guys are going to have to confront. I'm worried that if we don't squash this right now. Jason with a massive show of force, which seems like we're going in the opposite direction. We're going to have an even tougher problem in cities like Seattle, Portland, Los Angeles, Chicago, come to spring and summer months when the weather's better. So are you worried about seeing that as well? I mean, because you could let this stuff peter out and then it flares up again. Or you could squash it definitively. And I don't like seeing guys like Bovino be left out on, you know, to take, you know, take the rap for everybody here. I want to see us squash this. Yeah, he should not take the rap. However, I do think it's reasonable to say a criticism is that I don't think he handled this over the weekend, particularly well. And I think the president is trying to clean that all up. The president has been really good about putting competent people in positions of power and just sort of letting them take the lead and he'll come in when he needs to.

8:24And he obviously needed to immediately calling Alex Freddie a domestic terrorist was an unwise decision. It was not going to play in the context of even the video that we had at the time to just merely jump to that. And that quickly, knowing that the left wing media is never, ever, ever going to be sympathetic to any messaging coming from ICE or coming from CBP or from this administration, just seemed like an unforced error. I think the president is making the right move and putting Tomahoman in charge for now. I don't think Bovino again to your point, he shouldn't be just thrown under the bus for any of this neither should be neither should we do that to Christie. No, however, I don't think that they handled the messaging well in this case. And it seemed to be put out there in a way that I completely understand right wanting to immediately back your staff, whether again it's it's border patrol eyes or any law enforcement make sense because the context has been no matter what it is they do they're going to be thrown under the bus by left wing media they're going to be relentlessly attack.

9:26And so the natural instinct is to protect them, but the way you protect them does matter and the initial messaging went a little bit too far they did it without the evidence on their side and look there were conservatives who called out some of the messaging around the ones right to their arms and have a concealed carry, you know, it's obviously not illegal in Minnesota to have concealed carry while going into a protest doesn't mean that what he did was wise it very clearly wasn't and had they focused on that I think they would have won that messaging or at least had a little bit more of an upper hand. No, and I agree with you, I think the Renee good case is a clear cut self defense case right the pretty cases a little bit different if you were omniscient omniscient omnipotent you would probably looking back say you didn't have to fire right in the messaging after I would I would agree was not helpful based on the video evidence that we had. If you knew Charlie Kirk, you knew this he was a connector Charlie believed in finding good people and connecting them with other good people that he cared about when someone truly took care of him Charlie would never hesitate to recommend them Andrew Delray and Tadavikian were two of those people they personally helped Charlie and Erica with their mortgage needs and Charlie trusted them completely whether it was a home buyer trying to qualify or someone needing to consolidate debt or see if they could get a lower rate in payments these were the guys Charlie sent.

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12:16Ready to go okay not not talking about peaceful protest anymore we're not talking about having polite conversations anymore sorry but welcome to America 2026 where second amendment is the only thing that's going to keep you protected from literal. That's a gunman that are killing innocent people in the street with impunity this is not a joke there's nothing fun to chant about it get your guns and stop these people it's probably your neighbor Jason. How is this radical stuff what we're supposed to do with it is call it out and ensure that this kind of messaging isn't normalized and that's been the reality I think for the last several years is that kind of messaging was completely normalized where he's got these sad people lonely people dangerous people who have convinced themselves that their actual heroes that their freedom fighters and if not for their violence and activism.

13:20It would be headed towards a fascist country they believe we're already in that that that space and that's the sad part and that's why so many people yourself included myself include we talked about this for the last several years of when you've got radical leftists who are in positions of power. There is recently is yesterday and over the weekend talking about how you know that they're fighting Nazis the Gestapo they're fighting Adolf Hitler incarnate we know that that's incredibly dangerous it's not just hyperbole and they know it's not just hyperbole and that it's inspiring their base to commit these kinds of violent acts or at least threaten them and you know the attention has to be on. Normalizing and stigmatizing again this kind of language the reality is there's always going to be crazy people out there and people get inspired by all sorts of things. The question is whether or not the messaging inspiring some of these people are delivered in good faith or not and when you've got in Frank references by Tim Walls that's not delivered in good in good faith when you've got Gavin Newsom out there it's not delivered in good faith it's intended to create this kind of violence and at least at a bare minimum this kind of violent rhetoric.

14:30And they believe that they benefit from it because they keep getting rewarded by a leftling press for these kinds of statements and you know the good news is you know that individual that you just played his Venmo was taken down I believe the Instagram has been taken down he now says he's on the run trying to now flip this into being some kind of victim he's not the victim he is the bad guy in the story. That's right speaking of bad guys and not normalizing bad behavior you are in Seattle so I have to ask you about the Super Bowl. Bad Bunny will dress to impress at the Super Bowl but won't wear a dress so this is new this is breaking breaking breaking. No dress Jason so this is cowardice he's just backing down he's bad he blinked he blinked what so give us your perspective he should be wearing a dress or he shouldn't be performing. If you're going to go all in you might as well just go I want it all in Spanish and I want it in a dress. Yeah and so bad Bunny he did not include US concert tours for fear in his tour so he didn't clear US include US tour stops in his tour because of fear of ice raids and you know now we we're hearing Super Bowl 2026 ice agents to conduct enforcement as Trump boycotts the game there's a lot of layers here to the Super Bowl.

15:48You are a Seattle resident give us your POV on the Super Bowl and in the much much discussed half time show. Yeah I will say this season has felt a little bit different that we've kind of gotten away from a lot of the wokeness there's no doubt it's become less woke as a league I enjoy watching hometown teams in whether it's a Super Bowl or World Series fingers crossed next year. So I'm not going to boycott something that I might actually enjoy because of a bunch of lunatics I don't particularly care about the half time show. I didn't really know who bad bunny was when he became all controversial I kind of heard of him but not really followed anything I will do what I normally do during the half time which is just not watch I focus on the game. And you know to the extent that anyone enjoys the Super Bowl watch the Super Bowl that's what you enjoy. Hold on Jason I have to interject here Jason we do have a all American half time show that we would we would gladly welcome you to watch you it will be all over X all over YouTube all over all over rumble.

16:53So yep there it is the all American half time show we do not say the other word in that in that sentence for fear of legal reprisal but to 825 all American half time show we're going to have more details on that next week. So please do stay tuned but yeah I mean I think this is a really interesting touch point actually just as a culture because you know we have a guy that seems to not really like America performing at the biggest stage that we have. And that's a that's a really unfortunate reality go ahead Jason. It is I just don't want to see that kind of power to these people to take away something that other people enjoy it's the same thing you know I don't go out of my way to support people who don't support this country. But I also don't allow them to ruin something for me and the Super Bowl is not about the half time show and to your point there is some counter programming that's way better to consume for 15 20 minutes. And that's what people should do but i'm not going to say i'm going to boycott an entire league or a championship game.

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20:08Yeah that's right right now I'm in the chair that was once occupied by our good friend Dennis Prager who is with us and brilliant as ever but it's not for a catastrophic paralysis in an accident just over a year ago and so luckily he's creating a lot of great content still and I think we'll only create more but. I don't know if he'll be using the studio anymore then that's where I'm broadcasting live every day at noon for an hour but it's on tape delay podcast feed so by all means there's plenty of time to catch both shows that's right get it tape delayed on a half to do that because I have. We have to wrap our own course absolutely I understand and I had the honor of joining you believe that's coming out in a few days so that was great. Yeah so in a couple of days will probably a Thursday or Friday drop Andrew and I spent an hour together I got to both of us got misty a couple of times. We go back a long ways and people who are listening the show know that I could went back a very long way with Charlie back when he was a still a high school or sending me a tip. A bright bar news which we requested that he write up himself the thing was lightning in a bottle he was all over Fox is all over talk radio.

21:08And that was one of several I would say little roles I played in Charlie's rise that I'm so proud of and I'll be talking about forever. Yeah I mean it's really true and actually that you're kind of getting to where my first question was going to start and that is we don't probably have president Trump without bright bar news we don't have president Trump without. Andrew bright bar I mean you could go back even further you are an expert at analyzing the current political moment there is a lot of back and forth about all all of the illegals going home worst first this debate how to message how to the tactics you got home and going up there Bavino's out makes sense of it for us Alex makes sense of this political moment and what the admin needs to do. Yeah I think Trump's actually been kind of spot on on this which is great and he has a lot of proxies but his instincts are kind of the best and I think that if any of you watched the Zapruder film which I'm sure everyone has broken it down. I don't know if it was a good shoot or not the smart people in my life who say it was some smart people my life who say it wasn't and that's not really the point here the point here is to clarify that the goal is to try to tone down.

22:15The interplay of the taking place from the institutional well funded organized left agitators and activists they're not protesters there is no protest going on and you don't show up at a law enforcement operation armed with multiple magazines if you're just protesting you're doing this because you're trying to cause problems. And that's exactly what happened and getting back on that messaging but still understanding that we don't really know if this was a legal shooting or just shooting and we got to let all that work out. And what we got to do is move on as fast as we can to things we want to talk about which is deportations which is wildly popular with Americans and cracking down on illegal immigrant and immigrant fraud that's happening in this country. We just got to pivot back there as fast as humanly possible I trust Donald Trump to do that and I'll tell you else I trust Tom Homan it's not just that but he knows getting moved off and no one's getting moved off that's a very small part of it is Tom Homan is the man he was put on earth for these exact moments and put him in charge exactly the right move. Completely agree I believe that Tom Homan is is the perfect man for the job and Blake you made this point earlier messaging discipline there's nobody better than no messaging discipline experience and it's it's a fine thing navigate because they are in that position where you do need to change what the narrative is around it but you can't retreat you can't can see you can't say they won you certainly can't make a look like they won and I think it's actually paying dividends that we have multiple sort of famous immigrant

23:42immigration hawks within DHS such that you can swap out personnel without making it look like a total tear down. Yeah well this is interesting I'm getting some breaking news here Pima County Arizona shooting incident occurred this morning near mile post 15 on our Vaca road border patrol officers are on the scene we saw some new activity out of Arizona yesterday actually you could throw this B roll up 334 ice has been on on the scene here in Phoenix Arizona Maricopa County and you're seeing the semblance that I think the beginning pieces of what we've seen in Minneapolis where they're organized there's obviously some group chats there they're monitoring these unmarked vehicles these DHS cars and they're attacking them they're going after them to harass and these young women apparently took a selfie with some ice officers apparently in support and they instantly got harassed and chased by activists so this so this is my whole point with this this what we're seeing in Minneapolis we cannot be perceived to be weak now if Trump can strike a deal I'm with you I trust Trump's instincts here I think the pivot can be fine I think some of the messaging was

24:53mishandled I agree if these you know if they were omnipotent in this interaction with Freddie they probably wouldn't have done done what they did they probably wouldn't have taken the shot but you're you're completely right it's beside the point this gentleman should not have been impeding on ice officers and by the way again we made the point earlier this was not a protest this was him trying to impede law enforcement the protests happened after the shooting okay so he was obviously up to no good and apparently there's some other video that's coming out right now Alex that shows that he had interaction with ice about a week before he's claiming that he was tackled by ice officers or whatever I don't care get the heck out of the way let law enforcement do their job and buy the for the love of God the Trump administration cannot look weak on this and I don't think that's going to happen here but they cannot look weak are you guys afraid of being shot right now are you afraid of ice is going to shoot you know why not because first of all you're not a legal alien abating arrest and you're not a white leftist well-funded protester who's not really a protestors really an activist who's armed who's showing up to agitate the problem is is that when people like Tim walls and people like Jacob fry actually it's

25:59acknowledged at least that they're smallly fraud going on he's at least said for whatever reason that yeah there is some bad stuff happening here to his credit but you saw what happens on CNN you see what happens with Tim wall said there was no basis for ice being here of course there's a basis we've all seen the videos we all know what's happening with aliens in that part of the country they're stealing taxpayer money but here's the point here the most important thing here is it for all of us to understand is it we cannot be perceived as weak because our eye on the ball needs to be that we are going to make America more affordable we're going to make it safer and they hate that and that's really what they're protesting against it is not even a protest but they're doing it they're trying to deliberately stop the enforcement of our laws because they know a lawless society is better for them politically and we've got to be able to explain that to people in an efficient and effective way and we've got to cut through the noise which I think we can do especially when they're running so far to the extreme where they're calling Stephen Miller the Rick Wilson from the Lincoln project was saying Stephen Miller needs to be hung he needs seriously needs to be hung in public you had that crazy guy with the pink P word hat on on CNN yesterday who was talking about how they're going to put people in

27:05ovens that level of extremity we need to use that to our advantage to point out that these people are truly radical and they have no sense of common sense yeah I mean I completely agree and we've got you've got my favorite guy here Jimmy Kimmel giving them air support because that's what he always do this is from about a week ago but it it plays 339 they're trying out a new slogan Donald J Trump is going to kill isn't just killing people overseas an ice agent today shot and killed an unarmed 37-year-old woman during an ice operation in Minneapolis they're there under the guys of protecting us I want to see and now you've got Stephen Colbert screaming from the top of his lungs you guys have this up on Breitbart Colbert screams F ice Kimmel is crying in John Stuart Rance after gun about guns after latest federal agent involved shooting so the air supports coming in they think they're going to win the

28:08heights hearts and minds here and I just want everybody to be very clear that this is a tactic they harass they get they get martyrs so they get some casualties then they play victim the martyr in part is really essential because I don't know what was in Alex Freddie's heart but I know that if he was trying to commit suicide by ice he would have not behaved any differently that's exactly how he behaved is in a way that was designed so that he would get killed and then he would become a martyr now I don't know I have no idea if that's what his intention was but I know that that is a playbook now that can be followed and now ISIS be extra careful and they have an important job to do they're trying to enforce our immigration and custom laws that's all they're there to do they're not there to do anything else they probably don't even want to be there they'd probably rather be at home but they're they're deployed to try to enforce what's clearly immigration violations that's taking place in the area and so their lives will be made difficult when these media cycles play out the way they have because what's happened now is this is penetrating into broader culture people who not following shows like this or content like ours

29:11people who are just casual observers of the news and they hear wow I shot a guy they're cold blooded and they don't hear the contacts they don't hear any sort of corrections that take place and that is something where we need to be very conscious and I think President Trump is to be honest with you yeah I mean Blake I love your thoughts on this because you know you have been advocating for less I guess boisterous uh performative tweeting from DHL what you want here is you what the base wants is they want proof that it's working and for a lot of people like the the boisterous stuff the the performative stuff it's kind of a way of showing like hey we're serious about this you we have credibility on this but I think the base will also just accept the clear obvious signs that what you're doing is working in fact the freakouts of the left are often all the proof you need that this is happening so you don't necessarily need a big cart like a meme of someone like sobbing as they're like taken away in a helicopter or whatever as long as the left is freaking out and it's very clear that this is this is all happening that you're getting the job done that's what the

30:14base will be satisfied with it's just like with the border you don't need infinity memes that the border is closed the border is closed everyone knows it and that's the victory yeah it's interesting I hate this article from the Wall Street Journal but it says this is backfiring against Republicans Waltz is happy and they they call the the comm strategy the own the Libs strategy for DHS maybe they have a point there hi folks Andrew Colvet here I'd like to tell you about my friends over at Y Refi you've probably been hearing me talk about Y Refi for some time now we are all in with these guys if you or someone you know is struggling with private student loan debt take my advice and give them a call maybe you're behind on your payments maybe you're even in default you don't have to live in this nightmare anymore Y Refi will provide you a custom payment based on your ability to pay they tailor each loan individually they can save you thousands of dollars and you can get your life back we go to campuses all over America and we see student after student who's drowning in private

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32:24tell I don't know what to necessarily make of that but obviously this was a person that was devoting his life and his time to confronting law enforcement to stopping ice very the definition of an anti ice organizer so there's that I want to take our attention in a slightly different direction Alex this is Jennifer Welch who's now made a name for herself is being a basically the most vile person that you see on social media she's attacking white evangelical Christianity in this clip will play it Alex and get your take on the other side three thirty three evangelical Christianity is a cancer these are the worst of our country they use their religion in two ways as a weapon and as a shield they weaponize it whenever they want to and say we're on the moral high ground you're a lesbian you deserve to die you're a lesbian the cops shouldn't have revived you oh your parents are Mexicans and they brought you over here yeah you should go to gel and eat warm food and then when you call them out on it oh my god they're after the Christians

33:31how dare they how dare they we're so oppressed white Christians are so oppressed in this country and it should come as no surprise to anyone that of this cult that I'm talking about white evangelicals over 80% went voted triple trumped this person is basically it's if you read about like the Rwanda genocide there's a thing called Hutu radio so it was the Hutus and Tutsis and Hutu radio basically just this radio station that broadcasts constant anti-Tutsi propaganda that called them cockroaches things like that and this woman just feels like that for well white evangelical Christian America like a lot of that is just insane lies and she does it non-stop all the time like she's kind of she's the final boss of of office as as it were very very dark woman and man we're probably gonna be stuck with her a long time but she's a lunatic like a very

34:33very hateful lunatic and like you you can just tell like this woman this woman would be like having that obnox that incredibly sinister grin of hers as she funnels you into a gas chamber or whatever she's good at the otherizing language Alex your reaction yeah I I love the content I mean it is pure evil it just also false and Christians tend to be way more charitable they spend way more time volunteering I mean I can't tell you how all the horrible stuff said about Christians is some of them I think do badly but they at least mean well and there a lot of them as a percentage spend a lot more their time doing productive things for our society and I feel like as we've gotten more secular we've certainly gotten less happy we have more crime we've less optimism so I think we should would all benefit from a more Christian revival approach to society that's my take obviously she disagrees but I'm just very pro-horseing this stuff publicly because if you want to hold up this person who is so unappealing is so unconvincing is so angry and so petty

35:36as a champion of their values this makes me very positive this is the thing is that when you look at their slate of spokespeople right now the tampon to me walls I mean these people are so unlikable they're so uncharismatic they're so full of baloney that I think that is just a remarkable opportunity for the rest of us especially happy warriors in the Christian faith in particular to stand up and say we're not going to tolerate any of this and we're going to beat it you know what it struck me with that clip is she you could you could insert LGBTQ you could insert black America you could insert any of their preferred victim groups their marginalized groups their special interest groups and that would be a hundred percent true of basically any leftist flavor of the week and she so it just strikes me as this massive projection and to your point Christians are the best of this country yeah we're not perfect yeah we make mistakes but you try having an America without Christianity and it will fail the country that she's enjoying the country that she's blessed to be and whether she acknowledges it or not

36:39is a blessing because it is good and why is it good is because it's Christian roots this is something Charlie talked about so much so much that is what makes America great actually is how great a people are to look at this at a literal point where she says that evangelical Christianity is a cancer and these are the worst people in the country well they're the worst because they're threatening to her because we tend to vote conservative and that's the main thing to understand is that we people of faith believe that God is above all else God family and then maybe politics is third for us maybe it's fourth behind career stuff like that it's a but for the left right now it's politics above all else they believe that politics is they're guiding principle and the ends justify the means in order for them to achieve political victory and just know that if there's a group of people who are God-fearing who pay their taxes who are not criminals who do a lot of balm to your work or give a lot to charity they do not care if you don't support their guy politically if you support the opposite side the Donald Trump side then you are inherently bad and wrong

37:45and it's very important to understand that because there's not a lot of a place where we can agree there's a huge amount of daylight between the two positions in this country and that's relatively new where there's such a big gulf I totally agree we actually talked about this in our conversation Alex and this is the Charlie Kirk show so we're going to play a clip of Charlie talking about just this 345 John Adams, he said the constitution was only written for a moral religious people it was holy and adequate for the people of any other the body politic of America was so Christian and was so Protestant that our form and structure of government was built for the people that believed in Christ our Lord one of the reasons we're living through a constitutional crisis is that we no longer have a Christian nation but we have a Christian form of government and they're incompatible so you cannot have liberty if you do not have a Christian population I'll never forget watching that live brilliant I look to the the team as well a longer clip that I'd love to play we just don't have enough time but I think you're right Alex this is a threat to her her way of life a Christianity is a threat to her cult her the left really is a cult it's an

38:49ideological cult and she knows that we're a threat and we should become a bigger threat and organize even even in greater measure Alex final 30 seconds to you yeah I'm optimistic that with the message of Charlie with what you guys are caring for what I'm trying to do and so many others like us that this will just fuel people to get focused you play this clip to someone who's not a hardcore leftist this woman is completely insane I don't want anything to do with anything she's associated with so that's where I'm gonna keep playing clips like this myself amen Alex Marlow hosts the Alex Marlow show editor in chief of bright Barton breaking the law is also out so check out that book your breaking series is is really important Alex Charlie's a big believer in it thank you for making the time my friend we'll see you soon you guys stick with it you guys are doing a great job for more on many of these stories and news you can trust go to charliekirk.com