Andrew and Jerry Save Kevin McCarthy!

With craziness happening on Capitol Hill and congressional leaders needing some form of guidance, Andrew and Jerry are joined by former member of Congress, Dr. Nan Hayworth for a wide-ranging conversation, centering on the question:  are you losing if you're having to explain, or do you lose by NOT explaining?

The reaction to the RNC censuring Reps. Lynn Cheney and Adam Kinzinger has been over-the-top, and more than a little disingenuous.  Andrew and Jerry dive deep into the RNC resolution, and how congressional leaders have handled it.  In their conversation with Dr. Nan Hayworth, they talk about the problems of not standing firm and speaking the truth, the split between President Trump and Vice President Pence over the certification of the election (and the real challenge we face when we have electoral problems), and Nan helps settle the question, "where does 'Upstate New York' actually start?"  They also talk about Joe Rogan and the leftist authoritarian streak.