Allison Berry on Isaac Kappy

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1:00And she's here to tell us a lot of the behind the scenes backstory on this whole Isaac Capi stuff, but she's like a computer technical expert there and has been analyzing one of the online, I don't know, trolls and bots and back and forth in elevation of all these stories going back to Fiona Barnett and pretty much all of them. Allison Berry, are you there? I am. Thanks for having me. Thank you so much. Before we get into this whole story about Capi and Fiona Barnett and all this up there, all my audience should know those names. Who is Allison Berry? Well, I've been an ITP professional for a good 25 years. I'd say about 12, 13, 15 years ago, I was a victim of Revenge Corn, where I didn't, it wasn't my knowledge or consent, but I discovered these items online and at the time the laws had not caught up to the crimes.

2:02So I threw myself into assessing online deviance and how somebody that I trusted and cared for would go and do this horrific thing because I felt like I was violated online. Luckily, my situation, he didn't post my own name and number, but typically that's what happens with victims. So I started to research heavily into online deviancy, the dark triad, Macavilanism, narcissism and psychopathy and how these three roles happened. A couple years later in 2015, I was team USA, I was invited to mentor two little girls, now they're adults and call it, they're living their lives and at the time, they're probably in middle school. And I mentored them on how to combat solutions to online bullying. And I was at Facebook London, it was sponsored by the Princess Diana Awards. I also spoke to Mozilla Firefox

3:03with a bunch of STEM educators on science, technology, engineering and math, getting kids into the STEM fields, especially females in coding. So my passion has always been about technology and how can be utilized in a very safe manner with the unsafe world we live in, especially with these deep fakes that we have with artificial intelligence. It's a little nerdy, but it's just I've been in and out with my career over the 25 years, either in IT, coding, software development, databases and how to really protect people. And when I discovered the whole Isaac Happy thing, the group didn't realize that somebody from Isaac's past would actually know Isaac. And when I started to see him online, it clicked on my head of like, it is of concern.

4:06And then I was later on asked about a month or so after he became this figurehead online where I was asked by a YouTuber to research like the Fiona Burnett connection. Well, let's talk about it. Why don't you tell us who was Isaac Happy? Why should we care who Isaac Happy is? Isaac Happy, I never want to be negative about Isaac because he was very special to a lot of my friends in New Mexico. He was a very creative person. He had a lot to offer. I knew him in passing. The reason I recognized him was he was in my friend's band Monster Paws. And I'd known one of the band members since I was like 20. And so when he was becoming this rising star, I was seeing him passively. You know, I was friends with his bandmates,

5:06but he was very creative. He had a violent, no, a violist scholarship to U of A at the University of Arizona. Capita? Yeah. Yeah, so he was a violinist who's very talented with his music. He comes from a very artistic family and a creative family. So I never want to say negative about him as a person. I just think he kind of got wrapped up and some very dark stuff at the end of his life. Right. So when you talk about his rise to notoriety, what was that? What was it about? Why did he rise another round? What was he talking about? Well, if you start with the Monster Paws and him being in the movie industry in New Mexico, because anybody that knows about the movie industry in New Mexico, a lot of people start there. I have some friends out in L.A. now that transferred from New Mexico out to L.A. And so Isaac's story, who would say is that he went out there for the movies. He was in like Thor.

6:06He was in Breaking Bad because that was based in Albuquerque. And so him and Monster Paws, they went out to L.A. So as part of the music part, I think, you know, he was hanging out with the likes of Seth Green, Claire Green, Seth Green's girl, a wife, McColley Colken and others, and then Parish Jackson. And how he kind of brosed to fame, I feel, is that he kind of threw all his friends under the bus because he had a moment, whatever it was either, because I don't necessarily think it was drugs that let him to be the face of QAnon. I think there was this hope of being, you know, in fame because he had lived in L.A. before my friend in New Mexico that does A.V., he had actually rented his old place. This was years before he went back out to L.A.

7:07So Isaac had been back and forth from New Mexico to L.A. at one point, but during the time when he was out there in the late 2010s, when this all occurred, he was hanging out with game nights with like Seth Green and Claire Green, and he put his hands on Parish Jackson. And there's documented news reports of him show allegedly choking out Parish Jackson, Michael Jackson's daughter. And this was right before he went on, lift the veil, Nathan Stopelman and Alex Jones before he got pulled off of all the networks. Well, I've been even before that, like, Isaac Cappy is known because he was sitting where I think it was and did a lifestyle where he studied, just out of randomly accusing all these Hollywood celebrities of being pedophounds and child traffickers. And basically, even that, like nothing he said was really new, like these were all the names that were on the internet. It's not like it's something inside information about that.

8:07If you look at the heart of it, he was always a fearless or delist actor. So it wasn't, like, it was unknown with the Epstein connections. And this was during the whole Q&A race. So your mix and, like I was saying earlier, about the 10% of truth with fiction. So, like, going to the whole thing where he was talking about the chicken logo, right, where, oh, this is where we hide the children with Seth Green. And what frustrates me about that story, if you put two and two together with the whole allegedly choking out Paris Jackson, what led up to that, they would do these game nights over at, like, say Seth Green's house. And Seth Green, if you know anything about Seth Green, he's a comedian. He was a child actor. And speaking to Claire Green's childhood friend, he had told me, wouldn't you, because this is when I was trying to figure out when I saw Isaac granting online, I contacted,

9:10I actually got in touch with Claire Green's childhood friend that knows Claire Green and Seth Green. And he goes, what, if you were in Seth Green's shoes, this comedian, and you had Isaac and ranching about elites and PDF files in Hollywood, why don't you want to mess with him? And I'm like, yeah, I would totally want to mess with him. The comedian and me would totally want to mess with him. So, the room that he references is actually one of their bedrooms. I think it might have been their master bedroom. And he goes, this is where we hide the children. But what Isaac did was reference this and throw it his buddies. The people he used to play games with under the bus after touching parish jacks and a female. That's what I figured it out as. The, you know, and they propped him up as a hero this whole time. It was right. And really, basically, nothing he said was in there. But now, when I first, because I get,

10:12people bombard me with YouTube videos on kind of the whole day long. Yeah. And so I hear about this. I heard, like, the Hillary Clinton's going to be arrested in five days, I heard about that a day one and I waited five days. Nothing happened. They're like 10 years later, they're still waiting. But what do you call it? So, but when I was looking into this initially of what his name first came, I didn't heard a story that he had himself committed. That he, but he went to the police and he thought he was being followed and being talked about. And that he agreed to have, does that, what is, is that a true story? It could have been his paranoia. I mean, from what I gathered is either he had some type of depression, I don't know personally because I'm not a doctor. But from what I gathered after talking to the family, his family was that he probably had something on the lines of bipolar, if not major depression, something clinical. And my friends that knew him too, it wasn't,

11:16you know, he had stayed with some of my friends in New Mexico. When I told them what happened to Isaac after he had met as, you know, jumped off the bridge, some people think there's a conspiracy there too. No, the family didn't advertise the funeral because of the crazy nut jobs on the internet. I know that for a fact. I was told that. But back to the claim that the Tiet himself committed. Can you confirm that? No, I don't know anything about that. And then all of his allocations, and especially some of them were just so, when he does a video dancing and singing brackets, Jack, it's so and so, it's a better line. Like there was really nothing there, nothing of basis or anything. So how did, which is just was, how did he become so not so much notoriety? Was it just because he had an IMDB project? I mean, you know, like, what is that? I mean, his associations with Seth Green and, you know, Parish Jackson, Michael Jackson's daughter.

12:17I mean, come on, McColley Coulson, Home Alone, you know, and McColley Coulkin didn't like Isaac. There's reports out there that he really didn't, he couldn't, he didn't like the guy. But this is all hearsay, right? I think Isaac was talented with his music. I sent you the Monster Paws song, the champagne bike, right? I think he was very talented, he was distraught. I think at one point, allegedly, I remember something about drug dealing, but when they did the stuff like they, they did the blood work and stuff after he had passed on, there was nothing in his systems. That would indicate to me there might be a depression component. But anything with the allegations, you know, I think his affiliation to Hollywood had him playing a role in Thor and Breaking Bad. You know, people want to latch onto these figureheads, like, you know, the next Lord and Savior through symbols.

13:18Yeah, and I was involved, I've done a lot of stuff in Hollywood, the Tiger Woods case, and Charlie Sheen, I was involved in my client's suit Charlie Sheen, probably involved in a lot of stuff. And then twenty-five of my new stories, I actually cut you into many more of the self-owned friends attack case. And we both, a lot of some, we sued Disney for George Probe. So there's a lot of people out there, with a lot more juice than Isaac Kappy, that had not become this legendary insider information guy. Like, what was it about him that they elevated this guy, that when really he had nothing, had nothing of substance, nothing new? That's what I think about. I think he was charismatic. Because back when I knew of him in New Mexico, this just years ago when I was going to college out there,

14:18you'd walk down, I think it's gold, yeah, it was Gold Street, where atomic cantina was and birds teaky lounge, these two, like pubs out there, and he would always be standing out there with his skinny jeans, right, and this weird hair. And people would be attracted to his personality, to his persona, his facade, you know. I mean, my friend Nate, you know, that was in Monster Toss, like there was something to him that Nate, this very talented guy, was attracted to and they became a bandmate, remember, right? So he was able to get jobs on Thor and Breaking Bad and elsewhere. And he was even connected to like, what is it, the Vanderpump Rules Guy, and they were making music. So there was something about his stage presence. And I think it was the timing, you gotta realize that was during the QAnon stuff, and I really blamed Alex Jones for propping him up.

15:22Because I think I did not been for Alex Jones and left the veil, Nathan, had those two not got in him on their platforms. I don't think he would have been such a big name. Right, now when he went on, what did he share on left the veil or Alex Jones, it was significant. Anybody would take interest? Just, he was talking about the elites. I think that's when he was thrown in South Green and Claire Green under the boss saying that they were traffickers. Now what about his family? Have they come out and confirmed the denying any of these information about him? Well, they were interviewed a while ago. This is right after his, him jumping off the bridge, Phoenix, Nygma, that was interviewed with Sean Atwood's channel like last month. He had them on right after, about within that month of Isaac passing and not really upset me, because I felt like they prayed on Isaac's family grieving.

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17:30Okay, so that can't be. He was on the day when you see this happen more than it. Then I haven't looked like you got to realize this was seven years ago. And the only reason I'm talking about this was because Sean Atwood came out with that Phoenix Enigma interview. I sent you the email that I wrote to Sean. Right. Then, and then my connections, we've talked about to Sean. But then there is also this other case, the story with the Sasha Riley that upsets me because I see the playbook at hand. What is Phoenix Enigma? He is a channel, what is it? Cory, he's actually a channel that did all the investigative work around the Isaac Happy stuff. Right. So when he passed on, he was doing a tour from the Grand Canyon and was around I-40

18:32where Isaac had jumped off that bridge. So that's kind of what he was doing, like kind of the extraterrestrial stuff with like the superstition mountains outside of Phoenix, you know, big-foot styled. I don't wanna say big-foot, but, you know, that kind of type of thing. Yeah, I was just in Arizona for 45 days about a year ago. I should have went and looked for this over-pads and then seen what was like. I didn't mention this in my email, but they have changed. They were working on construction right after Isaac's passing. I went up there before they redid the bridge. So it's just a gas station and there's like a motel hotel, there like your motel six, not motel six, but something won that lines. So I waited the Grand Canyon. He was on his way home to New Mexico from California. So he was out in Apple Valley right before he passed on.

19:32And then what happened is he had like a 1986 type toilet or whatever it was. Probably didn't take care of his tires, blew a flat. So the conspiracies that he was being followed and if you don't have a car that you're taking care of, especially the tires, you blow a flat, maybe outside of Williams, Arizona, you get real depressed, you know, I could see when you're, you can't live with yourself and the why has you been spitting? Well, how you could end up off of a bridge. And he was on his way back to New Mexico from Mother's Day in Apple Creek. Now, so between that time and the suicide, he had some twists and turns here, right? He went on and off, looked at the bailings, Jones. Got linked up with Fiona Barrett. Right. And what did you make of that situation? Because he actually went to Australia. Who paid for that? Yeah. Could be donations or cryptocurrency.

20:34Let me get into that though. So in September-ish, because that was around the time, QAnon was going off on 2018. He had linked up with Isaac. Isaac had linked up with Fiona Barrett and that around that time. And then there was the vegan Mikey with the voodoo doughnut stuff. You know, I actually did the first of the radio show by voodoo doughnuts about six or eight months before vegan Mikey. And with the guy who I would forget, says, disappear, he's gone, okay? I don't know where this guy went. And it seems like the whole vegan Mikey was made to discredit that. Actual reported. Yeah, I don't know. I think he had a drug addiction. On the wall, and I know, and I'm just saying, like, you know, it's kind of a coincidence guy. And it had so many skeletons in his closet to be the face of this voodoo doughnuts investigation. And just by coincidence, I was working on another case where we were trying to get this guy's probation.

21:35I don't know, his parole violated. And he had made a comment saying that when he was a teen, he used to turn tricks, take voodoo doughnuts. Oh, jeez. And you've got totally coincidences, no connection to either one whatsoever. There's a guy who lived in Vegas. And that was, yeah, I know. Vegan Mikey was the one from Vegas. Like, he lived in Vegas, and then he got on probation, and then he ended up in the Dallas, Oregon, which Jason Boss. And Jason Boss had a whole blockchain website. He was trying to do this whole streaming thing. Like livestream thing and be kind of an alternative. Because I made a conclusion that the QAnon thing was a recruiting tool for the dumb-doms. And what was it? Then you had the cicada 3301 was the recruiting tool for the hackers. Then you had the SRA GRIFFT with Fiona and Isaac. Well, what did you describe who Fiona Barnett was? Well, Fiona Barnett,

22:37she used her patient story as her own trauma, accused all these elites, like Nixon, even though Nixon was never in Australia at the time. She has since been debunked on her breast, but she claimed that she was a victim. And I don't know. Like, honestly, I wanna say, so people don't misconstruely, there are true victims. There are people that have gone through this wild stuff, but I really think Fiona and my own personal opinion was a psychopath, is a psychopath. And so she used her patient stories as her own story and created this whole thing. There was like 10 years' worth of documentation on the internet with, quote unquote, valid newspaper articles to validate her candy girl documentary. It was psychosis at its best.

23:39And what it does is it muddies the water with the true victims and trauma. And I don't know if it was for attention because she wasn't hurrying for cash, but she was saying, oh, this is my Satanic, ritual abuse, the SRA abuse, but in the process, that's what she was doing to others as she was virtually abusing people online by causing this trauma because it was triggering people's trauma with her stories that weren't even, they're made up and fabricated. Like, people go, oh, well, why don't people sue? You know, these famous people sue if it's, you know, not that big of a deal or they're lying. Well, she accused, what is it? Nicole Kidman's father, the psychologist of violating her and stuff, she was accusing dead people. Like, it was a lie when she, I was the first interviewer. And he was a lie when she first accused me, killed himself after that. Oh, okay. But it's so fascinating.

24:40If you listen to that very first interview with Fiona Brown, and then we had another interview. I need to go back and listen. Yeah, but that, you know, she tells the story, she had this incident with Nicole Kidman's father. But then, you know, later on, the thing grew. And then when I had her on a second time, and I didn't even know how much her story, that she said she was a super soldier, a super recruited and trained by the CIA. Well, I didn't even know anything at that. I had no idea. And she came on, and I said, well, you know, Fiona, you say there was a fire on little St. James. I know there wasn't a fire, because I worked on this case. And she goes, oh, well, I got that from me into that. So she was saying she admitted to so much in that interview, but the recording didn't work. It didn't go through. And I said to her, she said, listen, the recording fell, you know, we come here on record again. Oh, did you record? And then she turns her on and says, at Appleman's CIA. Well, it's probably because she can't keep up with her lies. You know, I mean, when I was all set and done in the spring of 2019, when I received, because going back to the 2018,

25:42when I was asked to research, you know, in a bar that, when I received the document, I'd say early spring of 2019, that matched up to my research. I had caught when somebody had told me that she had a bot operation on Twitter. And so what I did was I blocked everyone. And then when I received the Fiona Burnett operation, me and a bunch of anons went after Fiona Burnett because it matched my research on the debunking claims. And so she had reared or had like one more time, but at one point she was posting things with like this dark, satanic troll thing. Like she was admitting to being this evil troll. It's, she was so sick and twisted. Good riddance. Hopefully she can go back under her troll bridge. Yeah, it's been my experience that there's people, you know, that they didn't have some kind of trauma in their childhood, you know, but they don't want it. They couldn't, they couldn't possibly be my father.

26:42Couldn't possibly be my mother, my uncle. It had to be, it had to be, you know, kissing, you know what I mean? And, you know, we were, okay, going into the history of how we survived even the back of the day. As we were, when we were in hunters and gatherers, or we're trying to survive through famine, guess what we did, storytelling. So this is deeply ingrained into our DNA on the, you want to believe these really crazy stories because maybe the truth about daddy violating me is a little less out of the water for people. So when you go next and people like, and they want to believe it, but doesn't make it true, he wasn't even in Australia at the time. And with Fiona Barnett, she had these pictures of her family and her parents in this house. Yeah, but then I found out that those weren't even real. Well, well, those real pictures of, I said, if that's her family, yeah, something happened in that house. Well, if you, well, if you go to the Fiona Barnett operation dock,

27:47it's within the first couple pages of that PDF. Yeah, it goes into like, it was a whole fabricated. That wasn't her thing. Uh-uh. I don't know. I'd have to go back through the document and bear with me. I'm getting some water. That was the one thing that had me convinced that something happened in Fiona Barnett when I saw those pictures of that little farm shaft where she grew up in and those ingrained family members. Yeah, this is how it has a something happened in it, man. Yeah, well, yeah, it was, people have never seen that picture. It was that extreme. So somehow Kathy hooks up with her. He goes to Australia, then there was a falling out or whatever. And if you want to get this long story about how it was an assassination attempt and this whole thing, and then when she comes on my show, I ask her, what about the assassination attempt? She didn't remember the story. Oh, yeah. Well, she had, she was like, I don't know, her stories were wild. Yeah. But then she had linked up with what is it?

28:47The freestyle. And there was a lot, he was like a South African, right? And the lives of pretty Eli Priests, right? And there was a whole, now people don't know this because I was an internet researcher. I'm an internet historian is what people call me. But there was with Eli Priests, maybe, no, he was South African, but he was connected to diamonds. Like there was a, no, he was a jeweler. Like in real life, he's a jeweler. So he had this blood diamond thing connection, right? And he was teaming up or they were battling him and funer battling. And then Isaac was referencing this pre sky in the process. And there was all these biblical references. And I'd have to look on the internet way back machine, but I backed up this account that was Mary Magdalene. So there's a part where Isaac references before he passed on about being Judas. And so and the story about Judas in the Bible where he was hung and

29:51as it's really graphic, the guts onto the ground is basically what happened with the bridge. It's this is so dark and so disturbing. And and people get lost in the trauma of it all versus the reality. But it's the and Fiona was so psychotic to talk about these Bible references. And it was wild to me. Because if you grew up like Judeo Christian and you know these stories from the Bible, it's going to trigger something deeply ingrained into you. If not, your your your religion trauma, if that makes sense. Alison, let me ask you this now. Before Isaac's step, personally, he had released a very bizarre video of little children that was and allegedly, this was in an basement facility. How do you need Epstein's house on little St. James? Or I know there's no face on it.

30:52Well, the one with like almost like the Turkish bath, right, Roman baths with the little kids with the buckets and stuff you know, or cups with water, whatever that was, we won't just it was ever an explanation of what he was trying to say that that was right before his death, right? Yeah, it felt like it was all the pizza gate stuff and the key one on stuff with the red shoes. When I'm trying to think about that, recall my memory, because you got to realize this was seven years ago, this isn't fresh in my brain. But there was definitely the the Epstein connection. I don't know what was truth or fiction, but this is all coming from like the forechands too. Like a lot of this stuff was already published who was this repurposing content. And you got to realize when Isaac was linked up with the Fiona Barnett, there was a network that spanned from Russia to South Africa with that piece of shit. Excuse my friend from talking at that time, the POS, I forgot his name, but he ran a burning man website. And

31:59he called me a bot. I almost knorted like coffee through my nose and that, but he was running a whole botnet for Fiona. So there was a whole thing where they were sharing information probably through a discord is what I'm assuming with the Jason bosses and the vegan Mikey's. And I know people aren't going to know all these names I'm talking about, but they were all connected. So I'm sure they had some easily shared information with sharing out a video like that. But if it was post Fiona, he had enough network through like the shark belly kelly's before she passed ruster soul. But yeah, now what about right before his death, he had issued pretty much a suicide note where he said it was both guilty about things he had done. What was that about? If you die cipher, because I'd sent you something about that, that explanation, because people don't know this, a lot of people don't know this. If you look at that suicide note,

33:01pulled up, grab all the capitalized words, right it out, all the words. And then you read it, and it goes front to back, and it goes like many I have loved, and it goes into the thing, but you can read it front to back. So it's a puzzle in his his letter. But I've been monitoring his Instagram here and there, you know, possibly, right, this isn't something I did all the time, but he used to have photos. And then the last thing he had was that note. And then it's it's actually a puzzle within the note, but not a lot of people know my friend in a different state, she actually pointed that out to me. That's the only reason I figured that one out. Now, people make this these the theory that they had to be the gods of they got them. What do they base that on? And what is their theory? Betty got him.

34:05Do they have a theory? I really do think they truly believed the conspiracy that there was somebody elite wise, because there was the Gabe Hoffman reference, because Gabe was doing like a video, like documentary, and they were saying he was out to get them. If anything, I think Gabe was trying to get bunk up. And Fiona, I don't really think he was going to ever do anything to Isaac. And these elites, like, I think a lot of it was in Isaac's head. But you mentioned about how they they had a bot farm. Now, we also saw with the hemstead, hoax dead bunch. I also was the first one to be them in the United States. And that one show God, that was, that was a broom. I'm not an expert by that. I thought even a little bit, but I'm not as knowledgeable as this topic. But I experienced it. And so that other people contact men who like contact with them

35:06experience is that they also had access to a bot farm that was debating both sides of the issue back and forth. Some were pro and some were calm. And I remember one point specifically, when I finally I fell up and I said, say, you know what, I don't trust these people anymore. Yeah, they didn't know what to do. But those two sides were quiet for about a good six hours, they couldn't either side could come up with a reaction. So clearly, the most sides were being controlled by the same people. Wow, I know, man, well, you know, I think the AI and the bots have gotten better. Yeah, I mean, with the current stories that are out there floating around that are artificially propagated. Yeah, you know, and it's the whole Alan Turing test, right? If you know anything about churring, where you fought the colossus machine with the Nazis, and the whole thing with Alan Turing was, can a computer convince you that it's human? And so there's a whole

36:06movie, the imitation game, great movie, but it goes into the history of how the Brits helped beat the Nazis through, because the Nazis have this colossus machine. And so or, yeah, something in the Nigma machine. And so Alan Turing created this machine to combat the Nazis machine that dice cyphered and all through ciphers. And the the test with Alan Turing, the Turing test is, will a computer convince you you're human? It's tolerative here from 2311 racing, another checkered flag for the books, time to celebrate with chamba jump in at chamba casino dot com. Let's chamba, no purchase necessary, BTW group, boy, we're prohibited by law, CC and C21 plus sponsored by chamba casino. That's the bot. So keeping that in mind, what do you make a list of this latest

37:08drama going on with the Sasha Barris case? I listened to the first 30 minutes when they got to Jim Jordan. Now I am, I'm going to preface this. I am not a fan of Jim Jordan. I'm not a friend of Andy Biggs. I don't like these characters, right? But once I got into the Jim Jordan part of the 30 minutes, I found the transcripts and PDF. And then I ran them through my own tools. The stories, the ages, I can go off about Andy Biggs for a moment, if he's an international super villain. God, man, I mean, he was, you know, going on a Mormon trip in Japan, during this whole time, you know, Sasha's accusing Andy Biggs. So he's doing the U of A, no, he BYU, do he is at BYU, after his Mormon missionary trip, then he comes down to U of A, starts his law degree, then goes and pass the bar exam, not just in Arizona, but in New

38:10Mexico, while starting his practice in Hobbes, New Mexico, while pumping out five to six kids, and then violating Sasha. So that story alone, if one story can be debunked that easily, you got the Jim Jordan stuff where he's way too earlier, you know, young. And then he's like, as Sasha's changing up his story, to fit the narrative. And then you're like, okay, where's the big house in Tennessee that could hold all these elites? And then the people that are serving these elites, the groundskeeper, and you're telling me that there's some, they're all keeping the secret. Make that makes sense to me. So it doesn't pass my sniff test. And what irritates me about the lease of molding interview, the stuff that I did get through that I listened to, is that she doesn't deep dive as a journalist into the questions. She doesn't push back. And what six plus hours

39:14when you listen to the audio transcript, that's what they're keep telling you, right? Well, what it's going to do is it's going to program you to persuade you. And what you're doing over those six hours is you're getting deeply or more invested in the emotions and your beliefs versus the actual reality by fact checking and people. And people just want to believe that component, right? So that's where I'm at. Now, what do you make of the, there's a lot of thousands of tolls, many of them were just by accounts just created a January 10 saying, I believe, I believe, what do you make it in? Does this operation can they afford to run on these plots? Or are they going to put in these other groups? Yeah, I would fully believe it. I mean, anybody with an IT or knowledge of just basic 101 can see this was not just organic. There's definitely an inorganic, because even when I was speaking up against this on TikTok, because I was questioning

40:17this narrative, it was like, for one, I don't like Jim Jordan, but I can't get past this. And then two, I hate Andy Biggs, but I can't get past this. And so for me, if I can't get past it, and I'm asking questions, and people are calling me the most vile, horrific things, like it emotions with this. So part of it is organic with people they're latching on, like they did with the Fiona Barnett stone. But two, there's the bot push, because you said January 10th was when all this created. And some people mentioned there's like a Russian think tank behind this. We got to realize we're in an election year in 2026. So there is definitely because I think with the Epstein files, they haven't released. It's like you were saying, it's so that when these really messed up things happen, it's going to just minimize the actual real floors of these victims. Yeah, how so I said that off the air.

41:19What I was what we're talking about, man, Alice, not the air was saying that what I think is happening with this release of the limo driver. And by the way, too, that limo driver's story, the that's being circulated and promoted so much, they're only showing page two. There's a page one and a page three. And on page three, he's talking about the he knows your former city farmers and like, if you met Eric Clinton, he was drunk. This guy's all over the place, man, I talked to this guy at the bottom one hour and a half. This guy's telling stories, he met Timothy McVeigh. He had a name at Clarence Thomas, he met Jim Jordan, you know, the guys in the two years don't drive them missing two years. Anyway, you know, they're going to jump at a gold plated gun on them, you know, it's out there, man, you know, what they're doing is, is that the Trump kill puppies, Trump killed babies, Trump, you know, all this stuff. And then when the real files come out, and it's

42:20well, Trump, a 14 year old, he got a drunkenly rape, you know, oh, that's not so bad. You know, actually, 14, you know, you know, you know, I mean, they, they, it minimizes the real crime, which we should be outraged with to begin with. Well, and the thing that gets me is, do I believe Trump did all this nefarious stuff? Yeah, yeah, I never did not, I think he was involved in probably baby eating too. But where are the facts? What can we prove right now? And of course, we don't have all the files, right? So, yeah, do I believe he probably violated boys? Yeah, do I believe the stosh of stuff not so much? And it's interesting that that this Lisa bold and we have a recording of her saying she was friends with Trump, you know, if he was a part. So she's the one that's controlling this old story, you know, we got to trust her. Why? The simple agents, right? And they're throwing so much out and then you combine it with like bots, there's going to be, I

43:21just asked people to think critically and unfortunately, we don't have a society because they're looking at it face value. You know, I have friends that really do believe the Sasha story. You know what, they're entitled to their opinion, I'm entitled to my opinion, but I shouldn't be attacked and called all these horrific things because I might be a distenting, skeptical voice in this whole thing. And I'm not trying to take away from the victims. You know, real trauma does happen, but I did work through a lot of my trauma. So I don't go online and rant about it or, you know, it's an attention thing, I feel like, you know, he's getting a attention, attention's currency. We don't want to, if something happened to Sasha, you know, I believe, let's believe, you know, but the thing is, people who are traumatized and people who are taking advantage of and manipulating their weaponized. And that's well documented. You know, it's well done in my personal life. And it's in the WikiLeaks. Yeah, but that's the talk I'm going to do.

44:22Well, we have people with mental illness that we can weaponize. That they, it's well documented that this is done in my amateurs. So anyway, I don't know where we can go from there. You know, it's having that the keyword is discernment. Yeah, discernment. Because this, this whole Isaac stuff has been dark for me. It's, you know, I don't want to be the, you know, I don't do this for attention. I do it because I've been screaming about it for years with the Isaac stuff. Because I've seen what leads up to a person that becomes the face of all this with QAnon. And people putting him as this storybook figure. And what leads to his, you know, almost demise, I feel like if I was in Isaac shoes and I was lying about all this stuff, I blew out my tire in Williams, Arizona, I was heading to go see my family with my tell between my legs.

45:26I had been basically blacklisted at a Hollywood because I put my hands on a female Paris Jackson. And I had to go back to New Mexico after doing all that and grifting off the people and teaming up with the psychopath that is Fiona Barnett. And I'm just a man sitting there at a bridge. I could see how he could jump. President, Paris Jackson, any comments about this? She did through the TMZ stuff back then right before he blew up with the QAnon stuff that she feared for her life. She had a higher security. She had to move locations. So you make of it what you will. But people don't hear that side, right? They don't see because me as a female, you know, we're, I've seen what happens when a guy gets enraged? And I could put myself in Paris's shoes. And what if what if this all started because he

46:26put his hands on Paris Jackson? And people have been here like making him the hero of the whole time. And he's just a guy that threw all his buddies under the bus in Hollywood. And Seth Green said to mess with Isaac, this is where we hide the children. And Isaac took that and ran and accused his friends of being child traffickers after he violated one of their... Tyler Reddick here from 2311 Racing. Victory Lane? Yeah, it's even better with Chamba by my side. Race to chambacasino.com. Let's Chamba. No purchase necessary. VTW Group. Boy, we're prohibited by law. CTNC's 21 plus sponsored by Chamba Casino. They're friends by touching a female. What is? Well, Alison Berry, is anything else there you want to sum up with before we go? Thank you for your time. I know this was really just short notice for both of us.

47:26I just want people to have some discernment and realize that people are human. Um, I wish I wasn't in this position. I just, I really need to let the story go because there's a lot of trauma and there's a lot of hurt. But I also see the patterns and real people have died because of this. And that's the seriousness. Isaac lost his life and you got to think about how do you make different decisions? Would he still Billy around? How do you not linked up with Fiona? Would he still be around? How do you not been platformed by like, lift the veil and Alex Jones? Would he have been as big as he was? He was just a person. But there's a lot of people that did care for him that were outside of Hollywood. And I think people don't see him as that human, as that person, rather than he's just the voice that brought a lot of the Epstein stuff

48:33that may be mixed in. It was during the QAnon stuff. So again, discernment, there are people that have gone through trauma. And I don't ever want to minimize that. So thank you. Yeah, very easy to see the sanctity happen now. You have people with that have been traumatized now that they're being elevated or scrutiny. And that's not easy. It's not easy to be in distance scrutiny when you're doing a good thing. You know, and you have support, people support it. But even like Virginia, Jeffrey, you know, people treating her like a saint, they love this woman. And so the notoriety, the exposure talks, the expectations that you're larger than life and the larger than human. It's way that's a lot to deal with. Well, she, she ended her life too. And, you know, how much, I mean, you hear about the, the sexual trauma she went through. And it was physical stuff, even into her 40s, you know,

49:33she did not live an easy life. And that's where, you know, stories like hers, you know, these are real stories. I don't ever want the real stories to get confused with stories that could be fabricated. And that's what upsets me is the real victims suffer when you believe the grift. And there's a lot of money through trauma grifting. And that's where I have to speak up because I've seen the dollars. And there's a lot of money to be made on triggering your trauma. You know, and I don't want to say that Sasha doesn't have trauma. I just don't think the trauma that he's expressing vocally is true. And I'm entitled to that. Yeah. And for people to know, like with his YouTube channels and stuff like that, when they bring people on and they're raising money for the, they're splitting up that money.

50:34That money gets cut up to everybody. And even when you have two channels at war with each other in their back of work, that's all things. They're all friends with each other, all those people. Yeah. Well, there's a whole internet battle thing of faux fights. Yeah. And a lot of people don't know this. And so it gets you to go from one channel to the next. They're fighting, but they're not really fighting. Nope. That's the real grift for the stuff during, I call it married grift mess around Christmas. So lots of money to be made, even if you're not subscribing and paying money, your attention is currency. Yeah. Yeah. I'm social. I'm Christmas time like you said, or back to school, because if you have a, if you're an Amazon affiliate, they click on your link. Anything else they buy, they can click on your link, but then they buy something else. You got a commission for that too. So Christmas. Oh, yeah. So many of these talk show guys, that's their whole income. They've made majority of their income. They're Amazon. So there's a lot going on here, guys. But Allison Berry, we're out of time. Thank you so much. Thank you for

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