Alex Acosta And His Epstein Interview With OIG Inspectors (Part 4)

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1:00What's up, everyone? And welcome to another episode of The Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're getting right back to Alex Acosta and his interview with the OIG inspectors. Turning to Exhibit 2. This is an email that was forwarded to you by Redacted. The original forwarded email is from Redacted Copying Redacted and it essentially relates to a dust up between Redacted and Redacted over the chain of command and her workload. But in the first paragraph, she specifies that when I first heard about the Epstein investigation, I spoke with Redacted about it. Redacted was not here. Redacted said that she would back me up on the case. But I knew what happened to the state prosecution and can happen to the federal prosecution if the US Attorney's Office is an on board. So I spoke with Redacted about the case and he spoke with Alex and they gave me the green light. So that actually appears to be initial contact with Redacted that she's talking about prior to the briefing with you. So wait early when the case first came in in May of 2006.

2:04Do you recall being contacted or having a conversation with Redacted about the case so early? Answer again, the early recollection, whenever it might have taken place, was I was made aware of the matter. It seemed a reasonable matter to pursue and that's the level of detail that I recall. Question, so if Redacted said back in the day that she got from you, the green light. Did you understand her to be being authorized to authorize maybe too strong of a word, but answer to pursue? Question, yeah. Answer to someone, you know, I'm speculating here, but there's a case and they want to know should we spend our time on this? And the answer is that it seems reasonable, sure. Okay, and do you recall making that explicit to her? Answer, I don't. And it wouldn't have been my practice to sort of make it explicit, yeah, go spend your time as opposed to thank you for letting me know. That sounds reasonable.

3:05Question, all right, answer. And whatever, you know, details it looks like based on exhibit one, there was subsequent follow up between her and Redacted or with her and the management teams and they said, you know, go back, work on A, B and C. Question, do you know what Redacted was talking about when she referred to something happening to a federal prosecution if the US attorney is not on board? Had there been a case in which you were not supportive of a particular prosecution that was being proposed? Answer, none, none that I recall. And I knew what had happened to the state prosecution can happen to a federal prosecution if the US attorney is not on board. I don't recall any federal prosecution that I wasn't supportive of, at least in this context. Question, what do you mean by this context? Answer, it was my way of narrowing an answer so I didn't spend the time to go through every office and every division. For the most part, as I sit here, I'm sort of running through each office. I don't recall any and if I could use this

4:07based on exhibit two, I'm not sure that she's referring to a specific case as opposed to concerns that the state prosecution started at point, you know, with charges that require gel time and ended up somewhere else. It may have been because management wasn't question, but that's current reading of, they get interrupted by a cost of yeah, an interruption again, but this time by the person asking the questions, this rather than recollection. Answer, that's my reading. Question, all right, based on the early description you got of the case. Did you have any idea? How many victims were involved? Answer, I did not. Question, did you know what the name of the case was? Was the investigation name was? You know, cases get names. Answer, so I know based on the review of the correspondence, I may have known that then, I did not independently recall it. Question, that being operation leapier? Answer, correct. Question, all right, and do you know where that came from?

5:10Answer, well, I mean, other than February 20th, yeah, I don't know. Question, well, the original allegations that came in involved 28 victims, and then subsequently redacted advised that she was uncovering more victims, so there were over 30. Question, well over 30. Answer, I don't recall knowing that. Question, but is it reasonable that the number of victims would be one of the factors that you would have been informed about at the time? Answer, I don't know. It all depends how detailed that briefing was. Again, as a typical matter early on, this is what is being done. I would trust my AUSA's and my management staff to pursue it. It wouldn't be here are all the facts associated with the case just a heads up. There is a high profile case involving a very wealthy man of abusing young women, a state attorney is prosecuting, but you know, there is dissatisfaction. I wanted to give you the heads up both to inform me, but also so that I'm aware in my interactions

6:10with other Palm Beach officials. Question, okay, based on whatever information you got at the time, did you think that there was a federal interest to be served by pursuing a federal prosecution potentially? Answer, yes. Question, and what was that? Answer, so the exploitation of young women. He gets corrected now by the investigator, girls. He corrects himself, girls. The investigator, I wanna be, all right, look, I know for the sort of glossary convention that we are using is we can use this in the interview as girls for the victims who at the time of the conduct were minors and women for those who were not, even though the girls at a later date became age of majority. Acosta responds, fair, question, okay, so here we're really talking about girls. Answer, okay, question, who are the victims? Acosta, yeah, yeah, question, okay. Acosta, girls, minor females, I just don't sometimes.

7:13That term is viewed differently. Question, right? Answer, so yeah, the exploitation of girls or minor females, and that certainly is an important federal interest. Question, well, and is the number and the breadth of the scheme, the scope of the activity also a factor there? In other words, it wasn't one or two women on two occasions. Answer, so there's several factors that probably go into what's the federal interest, the acts, the sortiness of the acts, the number, the likelihood, or the importance of the registration was important to my mind, because that goes to future prevention to putting the community on notice. Question, and were you aware that the individual in this case, Epstein, also at Holmes and other districts, that were it was an interstate activity on his part, the interstate travel, and so on. To that, Acosta's lawyer pipes in. I'm sorry, let me just, we're still in the original intake time frame. Misredacted, yes. Acosta, yeah, again, for the intake time,

8:15I can't, I can't speak to the details, because I don't remember what the extent of that, that intake briefing was. ¿Quieres mejor internet? Cox's internet de 300 megas tiene las velocidades rápidas y confiables que buscas. Perfecto para streaming y gaming y trabajar desde casa. Todo por solo 45 dólares al mes cuando agregas CoxMobo, incluye equipo de Wi-Fi y garantía depresión de dos años en tu plan. No esperes, gambia te hoy a Cox. Requiere CoxMobo que llego a un límite de garantía depresión o incluye impuestos y cargos de velocidad de datos moviles se reduza después de 20 gigas al mes.

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11:05y a ver una pregunta que c distancee público desde sí. Cuálờies? ¿Qué recog滅cate? ¿Parabas 37 o 40 personas, deounter la peladanía? ¿Por ahora...? ¿Todavía no es en país? ¿Lo recog ministre? ¿No lo nämamos todos mas? Entonces es un momento de hairstyle? En cuanto a lasteps? Bueno, noorbemos el día en видео y que laaaa cuda... ¿Por qué lo llamas la pregunta? ¿Cuál es la pregunta? ¿En serio? ¿Soy el último ojo al imperio? Yo estoy muy touchedada de vuelas ubalas, Eliza, es ventura y자가 una escuchante nowensa, pero vamos a para la U.S. a partir de la vuelta. Puedo € saber si aun todo es� ponerший en pé, y venderes elай en su casa... o Freddiegood se espera al petitinal delivers cuando creen unią de búsqueda y veamos ¿QuiégHD tiene verdad asistencies? En algunos tres vízca de la constitución born vez encabiz influence este proprio gestionante, que tiene que ir a unamy available, ¿No hay recolección de cualquier briefing? En 2006, la pregunta, me accepto que me me fue muy seguro de la idea.

12:07¿Quién? ¿Quién? Me puedo decir cómo, o en qué contexto, o en qué degree de detalle. ¿Quién? O por la casa, la pregunta o por la casa. Yo sé la idea, es fácil de recolecar, a lo mejor, para mí, lo que yo sé, es que me he puesto a quien me he estado. ¿Quién? ¿A que? ¿A este punto? ¿Quién, ¿a que si no? ¿Quién, ¿a que si? de investigar, y por lo tanto, asegurando de Jeffery Epstein, a reservación stemming de su vida, y reportando en la comunidad a todos. ¿Y la influencia? ¿Ensa o no? Y hemos asegurado a muchos de los pueblos influenciales en este caso. Así que, cuando él ha gustado la vida, no es unusual. UBS fue en la casa en el tiempo. Yo he mencionado en muchos propósitos de la comunidad de Palm Beach publicorrupción. Tienes que tener que no ser preocupados sobre la posibilidad negativa de la posibilidad en la presa o la comunidad, o incluso en la juventud de la juventud, si se ha llegado después de alguien como Epstein. ¿Also, ¿no hay no de acuerdo con su muerte o su estatus? ¿Cuál es la pregunta de ¿cuál es el stem?

13:09¿Also, en algún punto, creo que es la pregunta de la regarda de la ley, y pues probablemente, por eso, me ha salido a eso en el overview. No sé si eso ha sido de acuerdo con esto, pero eso no es una función de su muerte, eso es una función de la patrera. ¿Cuál es la pregunta? ¿OK? Así que, como mencioné, Policía Constitución, Policía Constitución, ¿could you tell us what your position was on the policy as it applied, in this case, as you understood it, from the beginning? Answers, so the policy, you know, on its face, doesn't specifically apply. Based on Exhibit One, I'm now inferring, not recalling, it looks like either redacted on our own or redacted, as for A or Mr. Redacted, as for a potipolicy waiver memo to be prepared, and part on the assumption that the state prosecution may or may not have gone for it. I don't know, but I do recall that early on, this was unusual, because it had been, had been arrested or arraigned, it was going forward on the part of the state, and so here's

14:10the big bad federal government stepping in, and on, sovereign, you know, state, saying you're not doing enough, and to my mind, when, you know, the whole idea of the potipolicy is to recognize that the, the estate has, you know, has independent entity, and that we should presume that what we're doing is correct, even if we don't like the outcome, except in the most unusual of circumstances. Question, and what kinds of, well, so the potipolicy exists, because there's a recognition that there are cases that are appropriately pursued. I mean, you are the head of the Civil Rights Division, after all, answer correct, which is why I say accept, in the most appropriate of circumstance. Question right. Answer, but let me add, that based on this, I was comfortable, you know, saying, let's go forward, because the lack of gel time, you know, to use, to use potipolicy language, a plea that did not include gel time, or registration, would seem like a manifest injustice. Alright folks, we're going to wrap up this episode right here, and in the next episode

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