ACT - "This Is How We Do It" (Wednesday 9-9-26)

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1:06Oh, yeah. It's a corporate time with Tom and Dan. Tonight on our corporate time with Tom and Dan. Tom and Dan, talk to a real-life gator huddle. Hey, from the I love that 90 missed tour, we talked about Mattel Jordan. And here they are, the chic and chic of radio, Tom and Dan. Welcome to a corporate time with Tom and Dan. I'm Tom. I am Dan. We are live on Twitch, we're live on YouTube. Come on over, you can be in the chat room right now. You could have watched hell of an intro. Yeah, sometimes the behind the scenes stuff, I say, is some of the best stuff. And you can find all of that on YouTube, you search for at Tom and Dan live. And on all social media, at least for the next 10 years, until AI kills us. Yeah, at Tom and Dan live, at Tom and Dan live, everywhere.

2:10There you go. It's weird job. So let's get it in. I wrote a new song, I know the particular job that we're dealing with today is Gator Hunter. Okay, yeah. And if there's one thing I know about Gator Hunters, hunting Gators is not all they hunt. I am going to see one other than Mr. Charlie Crockett, or as I call him, crash out Charlie, because on social media has a problem finding back with people. Okay. He will be at the Dr. Phillips Center tonight. So if you like outlaw country music, you may join me. But in outlaw country style, a song about Gator Hunters. Here we go.

3:12Oh, I've never seen a Gator beat the myth. There you go. There you go. I'm the line with us, Kevin, the Gator Hunter. How you doing, Kevin? I'm great. How are you? Good. How is math? You did. Good job. Oh, okay. You're not one of those guys. I was telling you. Yeah, most Gator Hunters, I thought they do a little too, and then they're out there grabbing tail. No, baby. I get high on life. That's it. Okay. I love it. I love it. I love it. You're one of those guys. Got more. I wish I got high on life. Not even close. My life is so low. Yeah. I mean, it's not even close to math whatsoever. You know, I've done the microdose of math, which is the doctor's call, I don't know. Kevin, let's talk about the biggest Gator you've ever caught. And first, even before that, how do you get into hunting Gators? You know, I've been blessed to fish and hunt my whole life

4:13and kind of work my way into Gator hunting. I guess I was about 18. Whoa. And just fell in love with it. It's tough. It's hard. The challenge makes it worth the reward. So I just dug in. Spend a lot of late nights, even all nighters. Figuring it out, man. It's, you got to listen to the water, the water's in the water and put in your time. So Kevin, let's talk about even the process of hunting Gators because there's a lottery. A lot of hot dogs. And then, well, don't go there. You've got a lot of hot dogs. I guess so you're just scattered in hot dogs. And there's a time of year and there's an amount of Gators you could even are allowed to hunt. So let's talk about that process to start. Yeah, absolutely. So it's highly regulated, right? So the state comets these Gators and protects them. And they do a good job managing the population. So with that, there's a lottery that you have to enter. I think this year, the draw rates are all at for like 10%.

5:14So maybe one in 10 people actually got tags awarded. And then those tags are tied to a specific body of water. And you have a time frame in which you can and can't hunt them in. And there's no foolishness. I mean, you got to abide by the law. It's a strict letter of the law for sure. Do you have to do a lot of paperwork kind of detailing what you're bringing in? Is that kind of the part that people don't see? I mean, we see the exciting part. That's been sort of glorified on social media and on TV shows. But like, give us an idea of what kind of paperwork you have to send into the state. Yeah, I mean, first you can't be criminal by any means. Well, they get they bet you first. And then once you if you get awarded tags, I mean, you're successful. I mean, your hunt, the tag goes negator right away. And you fill out a harvest report that takes down information as far as the length of the gator, the date it was taken, the location it was taken, what was done with the gator after you harvested it, if it was processed, who processed it. And that report has to be submitted within 24 hours. Wow.

6:14Is there a specific length of gator, like kind of like there is fish in which you can keep, like how do you go about even hunting a specific length of gator, like, you know, and then we'll get into the process of like, how you actually fish for them. I guess if lack of a better term, a hunt fish, because it involves a line and a hook, right? Yeah, absolutely. To my knowledge, I mean, I don't think there's a minimum size limit. At one point, there was, but it was super small. We never paid attention to it because it's nothing that we would ever consider harvesting. It was like four footer less. It was something teeny. So the size limit, I don't think there is one anymore. I think if there is, it's too small to even consider anything you would even waste your tag on, right? You may get two tags. So if you get drawn, you get a permit. Your permit has two tags. So you may not get drawn again ever.

7:14Why you would waste those on a gator that small makes no sense to me. So we've never even considered that small size range. And then to answer your questions, how you hunt them, we hunt them in a number of different ways. As a guide and outfitter, we have all the means and tactics available, both airboats, bayboats. Sometimes you're running gun from the airboat using a harpoon. It's a blast. It's my favorite way to hunt them. It gets my hard pump. We just talk about it. We literally fly up on the gators in the swamp in shallow water, and you stick in with a 10 foot pole that has a bar of attached to a rope. And it's like jaws. It's like that booey takes off down the river. You chase the booey. You go pull up your rope, get another one in them. You know, it's a fun, fun process. It's not just pulling a trigger. It's way more than that. That's how I used to take down fat chicks. At T's and K's. You get a, you know, I tell you, you got a Kevin. It's been up in the long standing good joke. You get four louis on them.

8:15I bring them to the surface. You bring up a, you can bring up a four booey. Oh my god. Got to ask like a mech truck. So Kevin, it's literally like we've seen in jaws where you're attaching some sort of rope and flotation device to tire the animal out. And then until a finally, how do you finally like know that it will stop running at a certain point? And then you put in like kill shot like how or yeah, yeah. Okay. How does it work? Yeah. So imagine yourself swimming and getting a worst cramp. You could ever get in your legs and you can't swim anymore. Eventually, that's what happens to a gator after he gets tired. He wears out and he pretty much just slows down. Stand as a ground. And it's not like you see on swan people where they're always trying to bite the boat, eat the person with it. That's exaggerated. They're pulling on the gators to make them do that. The way we legally hunt them here in Florida, you have to have them restrain first.

9:20You cannot just shoot them. You cannot even use anything with a trigger with a projectile. It has to have a line and connect it to it or be point blank range. In other words, we do not shoot them with the pistol rifle shotgun. None of that's allowed. We use a bang stick to actually hit them and kill them with. It's a five foot pull. It has a bolt at the end of it and it goes off on impact. So you hit them in the head with it and that's what actually ends it for them. You can't be out there skippin' both across the water. It's against the law to shoot out a gator. You have to have him connected, restrain, and hit him point blank. I didn't know that. So that's how you, because you said you only have two tags. You don't want to weigh some on small gators. You want to get the biggest gator possible. And that's where the hunt comes in, right? Where identifying the biggest possible gator out in the swamp or lake. And how do you go about doing that, like determining what gators bigger than others? Is it just the head size?

10:23Yeah, pretty much. I mean, for the most part, that's all you see, depending upon what they're showing you. But typically, if you see them, they see you. They're not dumb, especially the big ones. They lived 40, 50, 60 years to get that big. To give you a perspective of your average and dying footer, I'm told, there's no good way to judge it. On average, it's at least 25 years old. So you got a 25 year old gator who makes his living surviving and not dying, if that makes sense. Sure. So he had learned a lot over the years. So if he sees you, he's not going to show you much more than his head, maybe just tip of his eyeballs. At that point, you're gauging a distance between the two eyes themselves. And if you can, if you see his snout as well, the distance from his nose to his eyes. A pretty cool fact is, for every inch, from his nose to his eyes and length, is about a foot and overall length. So if you have a gator whose nose to his eyes is about six inches apart,

11:25you have about a six foot gator. And I cannot tell you how many times I have put a tape measure on that distance and it is scary close. It's really cool. It's like that old hand trick that guys used to do. You know, the distance from here to the center of your palm is, you know, oh yeah, yeah. And that's pretty cool too. Yeah, I measured it. And I got little hands, little hands. With our wide needless to say you. I needless to say you wouldn't be coming ever old to the can't hand. So you let me live, let me live to swim another day. So personally, what's the biggest gator you've caught? The longest I've ever harvested was a 13-6, but the heaviest I've ever harvested was a 920 pound vehement. He's the heaviest killed in the last 50 years on a record. And he's the second heaviest ever killed on record. Why? So you have the record correct? For the last 50 years, yeah. So yeah, that's quite the, did you keep, do you do anything to commemorate that or is that

12:27just a stat? You know, because you do. We were really fortunate, man. I was with a couple of buddies from church on that hunt. We had a real fun, just a blessed morning. And we came across this giant, I was a four-hour fight, like no other. We were breaking lines, snapping lines, the gator went up under bushes. It was literally a four-hour from the first hook to when we got them both side. And even at that point, we were in a John Boat, give you perspective. So it was like a total jaws moment. Never in my life had I actually been that scared to where something could potentially go wrong, that it was out of our hands and we could be in real big trouble. Literally, it was a John Boat. The gator was bigger than the boat. The whole story, old man in the sea type stuff. And we got them both side and four hours. Took them up, got them weighed the next day at literally a certified scale out of scrapyard. And it was 920 pounds with a signed certified weight ticket.

13:30How do you even get that gator back to shore back to where, you know, because I was about to say, like, well, I just put them in the passenger seat of my coffee. That John Boat, what is like 14 foot? I mean, usually they're 10 to 14, sometimes maybe 16 is a big John Boat, but like, so you're talking about the gator is as big and weighs more than the John Boat. He did. So, um, lovely, you know, the guys I was with, um, big dudes, I'm not a big dude, but I'm pretty stubborn and strong when it comes to making stuff happen. So anyway, we tied the boat to the bank, got the gator up in the shallow water. Um, you know, the reason we tied the boat to the bank was so the boat wouldn't swing out when we try to push and roll the gator in. And ultimately, we got this side of the John Boat level at the water and pushed and and literally rolled this gator in. Had it been a bigger boat, we never would have got the gator in. And we basically sunk the side of the boat to roll the gator in.

14:31That's crazy. I guess you do what I can. I put your pounds in the same. You go up to, you know, dollar general and just put pool noodles under it. Right? Like, you do whatever you got to do to get this guy home. Yeah, I mean, there's been instances where you're so exhausted or you're in a bigger boat and we can't get him in. In that case, we tie him off and tell him back in. Right. And this one, we were able to roll in the side because the boat was light enough. It could basically sink it. Um, and then your answer question about commemorating it, um, being that it was on a friend's tag, we all decided, hey, let's full body mount this beast. So we got a full body mount on that giant and he's commemorated for every man. He's on the wall. Okay. So he's he in your house on the wall full mounted. Yeah. I put him over my bed. Right? He's like swimming above me. I'll be like, you know, I mean, that's a better way of honoring him. You know, like stuffing him off and, you know, keep him up there.

15:32So no, he's pretty tall on you. Yeah, that's true. That's true. So give us an idea like a stand, like let's say a 10 foot gator. How much is that worth in the in the meat, the skin, um, like all parts, like the processing, because I know like, they even gator trappers when they go get nuisance, nuisance gators and places, they are allowed to once they get the gator out of the neighborhood or whatever, then they sell it to people because it's worth money and that's how they pay themselves. So what's the standard gator cost or worth? Oh, you know, not near enough. You know, ballpark, you're probably around like 35 bucks a foot on a 10 footer. By the time you factor in meat and hide, that's about what you're going to get paid. So not that, I mean, not that much, much, yeah, like $350 for a 10 foot gator. And then what it takes to get a 10 foot gator.

16:33And let me ask you with the like the nuisance gators are hunted different than how you guys hunt them. Like they're hunted with like hooks and meat, like a kind of fishing, right? Yeah, exactly. So nuisance gators, they play by different roles, those trappers, they're allowed to use different means. They can hang hooks, they can use firearms with the proper approval given the situation. They can do different things and you're exactly right. That's how they make their money. The state has a small stipend that usually runs out pretty quick. And then for the rest of the year, the nuisance trappers are left selling their gators. Is there only a way of making any kind of money? So Kevin, do you think with the current news out there, we've all seen the attacks happening. And it seems like of these sentiment in the media and the public right now, is that we're having a gator problem. Now, I don't know if that is accurate or it's just statistical

17:35anomalies that news cheering. Yeah, and you see more of these is like, and it makes the news and more makes the news. So there could be a lot, I guess only a statistician would know if we're really having a problem or not. But with any of this, we've seen it with like this is how we interviewed Ted Nuget one time where that one black bear attacked down in South Florida. An old man died and it was like the first time ever. And then all of a sudden this talk about like bear hunting season came back and then Nuget was like doing media tours, promoting it. And then when I saw all this like, and then now Florida wanted to make this gator act. And I was like, man, I bet they're going to open up gator hunting season more. And is am I on the right track thinking that? I mean, it could happen right. Ultimately, Florida's got a tough job as far as managing the resource. I'm not saying they're doing it right, but I don't know that they're doing it wrong. It's not easy. So it's easy to be an armchair quarterback and I'm not that guy.

18:37Ultimately, I think we have for one, let me tell you this, I can say for a fact that gators are not targeting humans on a regular basis. If they were, we would have a much bigger problem. There are a ton of gators interacting with humans every day and humans don't even know it. Some of the most popular swimming holes are go there at night and flip your lights on. You will see eyeballs everywhere. It's not that those gators aren't there during the day. It's that those gators aren't trying to eat humans. So it's usually a situation where wrong place, wrong time. Maybe a gator who's sickly and hasn't been eating enough food, so he's starting and he does something silly that he shouldn't do normally. And I'm talking about natural instincts, right? Didn't know that the gator knows he shouldn't do. It's just how they act to survive. And to survive, it's to stay away from humans, avoid that contact. Now, if you're in the water and it's dawn or dusk, that's feeding time.

19:38Not a smart choice. Tom calls it epic lunch with the boy. Right? Like that. You guys like to do evening sandwiches by the, by the rivers edge. I was going to ask you, Kevin, because you know Savannah from Gatorland, I'm sure you've seen her on social media or whatever. Yeah. So I was talking to her about me and my sons. We swim in the St. John's. We're in like a gator infested lakes all the time. I'm yourself and Peepy Dog. And you normally were out there in the midday and I'm like, you know, we're fine. There's a, you know, we're in the, we're not on shore with a little Peepy Dog. And that's usually like, I've seen a lot of dogs that you've taken. And like that's in the, like you said, dusk and dawn. And she's like, I wouldn't swim in there. I'm like, what? And then you said, don't tell my wife. And then I'm like, what are you talking about? But you know gators are fine. Yeah. The lady that works with Gators daily and the gator trappers. So I'm right, right? Kevin,

20:41you guys, I'm fine swimming in these rivers and lakes with my kids. I mean, in 99 times out of 100, yes. But that one time, I mean, I'm with you. I do it. I swim in all the lakes and rivers around here and all that. And I do with my kids as well. Obviously, I'm a lot more aware when my kids are with me. But that's the difference between you and Tom. Oh, I'm usually black out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm listening to a little. He's got a little some blind. He's had 11 lime white. My wife is stomping the bottom of the boat because she's all scared. But you know, I will say that in my years as a, you know, guiding gator hunts, the more and more I do it, which I've got a lot, the more I learn that I'm not as safe as I think I am in more situations than not in the sense of being in the water. I've seen gators do stuff that, you know, I would have never guessed. I mean, I've seen them

21:44targ out of the woods and, you know, eat my trolling motor and rip it off the ball of my boat. Oh, you know, like it was a hot dog. Like they're eating a marshmallow. Um, you know, now again, that's me going into their territory kind of asking for trouble. But what's to say that somebody is swimming by that same cup of weeds wouldn't have that same reaction? It happens, but it's extremely rare. Yeah. No, no, you're right. But it is a risk that we all should be aware of. And then, you know, they say aware and even like you said, Kevin, just knowing the animal's behavior sometimes can, you know, get you, keep you away from situations that you could have a bad interaction. If you ever had a close call, Kevin? No. You know, really, it all comes out of being safe. You know, nothing should happen. As far as any kind of close calls, unless you're doing something you shouldn't be doing. I mean,

22:45if you're being safe, you're keeping your clients safe, um, you know, not putting a gator in the boat unless he's taped, you know, all that good stuff and not taking pictures with the mouth wide open unless you have absolutely beyond a shadow of a doubt. Um, you know, that he's not coming back to life. Um, their animals, and at the same time, they have a nervous system. So you can think they're dead. But if they have one ounce of nervous energy left, if you fire off that neuron, that jaw slam shut, his heart may not even be beating, but he needs one neuron left to make those jaws pop. And if you're in the wrong place, you're going to pay the price. So you got to be smart. Oh, imagine how insulting it is to die from a dead gator. Oh, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? They probably just crush your head, you know, but spinning is the problem. Like a spinger arms uh, like, yeah, don't talk about it. But when it, the bite force that gators have on the way down to a crush your arm, right? Yeah, absolutely. It's crazy how strong their

23:48controls are. Now you can hold them shut with a few fingers. But if he twists and gets your fingers off his mouth and his mouth gets open, you're in trouble. But yeah, you don't want your hand in there. It's like a fat girl's butt. You can pinch it close with a couple of fingers. What's that thing open? Crushing, crushing power. So I'll never get the same ever again. Well, I'm happy. You know, I'm happy that that's a gift. That's a little gift for me to do. That's a little gift. So Kevin, uh, I guess we'll end with um, what kind of money a gator hunter can make is it sounds like it's just for the passion of the hunt. And there's not like you like it. There's there's it's not very lucrative. I guess taking like people out can be lucrative, correct? Yeah, as a guide, you know, you can do it at floridgatorhunting.com. You can see on my prices and rates and our cheap are our our our cheaps. Our hunts aren't cheap. Right. Um, because there's a lot of factors mainly because of tags, right?

24:50It's a limiting factor. There's only so many tags available. We sell out every year. We're blessed. And we guide people from Australia, Germany. I mean all over the country as well. Um, and they come in for a limited resource. So, you know, if you're selling that cheap, you're selling yourself short. And you're not respecting the resource. It demands more. But yeah, as far as just selling a gator, no, I mean your tag alone is going to cost you about 150 bucks. Right. And then you're talking to make maybe 350 if you get a 10 footer. So you're going to clear maybe 200 bucks plus your time, gas fuel gear. It's not the money making opportunity selling gators. No, it's it's a thrill of the hunt and join the resource, making memories with buddies. That's it's the adventure. And from what you've seen, uh, are the gator populations strong, as strong as they ever were right now? Yeah, I mean, I mean, I have maybe 20 years, um, 42 now.

25:52I've been doing this for, yeah, you look good. You're a young you're a young old man. Look at it. Yeah. Gator hunting gives my touchy young smooth as hell. Oh my god. Daniel looks like a Gator hunter. I do look like a Gator hunter, right? Like I'm like, hey, man, you're like a damn college boy. You're supposed to sell me a TV at Bestbuyer something. You just fresh out of college. Bogos, baby. But now, honestly, in the 20 years I've been hunting, there's definitely been a change in the population. In some areas, um, you know, you can see it, right? In other areas, it looks the same other areas you see more. Um, it's an ebb and flow. And it's like all things hunting. You go out deer hunting one day and you might not you can go sit in the best field in the woods and not see a deer. But then you go out the next night and there's 20 of them out there. So to have a really good feel for it, you got to be out there a lot, which we all are. And I would say overall, it's it's pretty flat over the last 20 years. The state has managed it to worry.

26:54If I had to guess, um, numbers are about the same. All right. Well, Kevin, thanks so much for taking the time. I'm doing the interview with us. I appreciate it. And good luck with everything. And plug your website one more time. So Florida Gatorhunting dot com. All right. That's great. You got a good URL. Yeah. Smart, smooth. Has it had any close calls? Hey, thank you for the time, man. We appreciate you. Okay. Hey, y'all are awesome. Have a blessed day. You two. Take care. Wow. That's a nice guy. Yeah. Yeah. Some of the people in the chat room are asking my weight limits on some of my fat girl. And I'm gonna say 275. All right. I'm not bad. I like them. Big. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Get a couple of. This is not a bad thing at all. I like them. In fact, my wife has lost some weight. I told her to her face. I liked her as big. Yeah. Yeah. And she got mad. They're gonna roll her in the Jombo. She got so better. I'm like, hey, you're losing your big and I like the big ass. Yeah. She eats your trolling motor. I want my trolling motor

27:56eaten. All right. Let's take a quick break. We'll be right back. We're more corporate time. Tom and Dan to tell you about our friends over at the Orlando Science Center, check them out osc.org. Yep. The Science Night Live is coming up. That's the adult only. You gotta be 18 and over. They got they serve drinks out there. You can check out the Orlando Science Center at night. That new phenomenon exhibit is awesome. Oh, yeah. It's a brand new experience they've had for a minute. It's a great date night with cocktails and or derms. Yep. And it's only $5 if you're a member. That's why you should become a member at osc.org. But it's Science Night Live coming up August 22nd at Orlando Science Center. OSC.org. If you need any type of insurance, blanchardinsurance.com can help you just give them a call because you could be paying monthly for insurance that doesn't even cover what you think it covers. Yeah. And that's the worst part. If you waste a bunch of money paying for insurance that doesn't cover anything, what about floods? It's been raining a lot of hurricanes are coming. Make sure your house is covered. Make

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30:01in the Florida and I can't wait to get out there on Friday to have a fantastic time. There you go, man. So Montel, is it just like Daniel said, positivity, good living God, that you look unbelievable for your age. Well done. Well done, man. Like, what if some of the viewers that are watching this on YouTube and Twitch and you look way younger than both of us? Like someone in the chat room just said, apparently that is how you do it. How? Thank you guys. Thank you. Thank you. I'm 57, man. What? I am 57 and but good living, good life. Mostly lots of water. I don't do a lot of sugars and stuff like that. And you know, I made a lot of changes in life just to try and make sure that I have life too as much abundance as I can of doing the right things. Yeah, chat room is saying you look 35. I would agree with that. You could definitely pass for late 30s, 100 percent, man. So is it still fun when you think about, you know,

31:11this is how we do it. This is a song that at any sporting event, if I go to an Orlando Magic game, they're going to fire that up. If we get to an Orlando City game, they're going to fire that up. Any before any other hip-hop concert, they're probably going to play that to get the crowd right. So is it a blessing? Do you still enjoy doing it? Because we talk to a lot of celebrities and sometimes they shun or shy away from something. Maybe they get tired of it. Maybe they want their new music to be heard. So how do you handle it? Having honestly, Tom and I talked about it, we think the biggest hit of the 90s. Wow. Well, thank you for that first of all. Two words, mailbox money. The currency in the music business is songwriting. So when you have publishing and songwriting, that song, this is how we do it, has given me 32 years in the music business. And the fact that I can still do stadiums and still tour and be out in the world. I do not get

32:13tired of singing that song. And even better yet, one of the greatest compliments that I get is that when people see me perform, they will say, man, that sounds just like the record. Some artists get tired of singing their same song for 30 something years the same way. And so they change it and shift it and alter it. I don't do that. Every single word, word for word, every ad live that you love about the original song, that's what I'm going to give our audience on Friday. So that together, we're reliving something that, you know, for the past 32 years has been one of the biggest party anthems of the last century. So, Montel, I'm curious to like, obviously, when this is how we do it came out, a huge hit. And I'm sure like back in the 90s, like, you know, with Billboard charts and stuff, you know, you saw it. And then, but I'm curious to when you realize, like, this is the staying power of the song. Like, how long, how much longer later on

33:20did you were like, oh, wow, this is how we do it is still popular. Like, this is going to have staying power. Well, the cool thing was I have a mentor, a hip hop legend named Slick Rick. So yeah. And his song, Children's Story, when I came into the business as Russell Semen at Deptjam, I was Russell Semen's rap singer. So I was touching on a song that had already been a hit record. So I knew that there was already the element of, okay, this is looked at as hip hop do not touch. And now I'm about to touch it and try and take it and convert it into a translated into a R&B type of song. And so the fact that we did it, the fact that Slick Rick and I are friends to this day were both married couples and we do life together, which is awesome. 30 something years later. And to be able to have that, it simply says that the ability to take a song and turn it into a classic basically is what we were able to do. It was already a hit. But I could not have said in

34:24my life, man, 30 years later, this song is still going to be something that people party to. But I did know the very first time I heard Slick Rick's Children's Story, I said to myself, this is a song that changes rooms. And if I ever get the chance to sing over that song, I'm going to sing over that song. Is that why you emulate that sort of style when you break it down and wrap within? This is how we do it. It kind of sounds like Slick Rick. Is that the reason? Because I never knew that. Absolutely. So I actually was signed, like I said, to Deptjam, I was signed as Russell Simmons rap singer. They wanted me to document Street Life in South Central Los Angeles, California. The stuff that NWA and gangster rappers were rapping about. They wanted me to sing it from an R&B perspective from the West Coast. And that's what I gave them on my demo tape. And so they wanted me to document Street Life in Los Angeles by singing it. And so I used to, when I was trying to find my voice guys like who does month, who is month,

35:24until Jordan, who do I sound like? You know, at one point it was you sound like Aaron Hall from the group guy or you sound like this guy, or Kelly, or you sound like this, you sound like that. And so in order to carve out my own special space, I started writing rap lyrics and then I would sing the rap lyrics. So literally, when you hear this is how we do it. And I say, I reach for my 40 and I turn it up, a designated Java take the keys to my truck that designated, that's like a rap tempo, the library, but then to say, doesn't need a Java take the keys to my truck. Then I was just adding melody to rap lyrics. And that's how I started to carve out my own pathway in the music business. I started writing rap lyrics and then finding ways to sing them. Montel and your career have you ever been invited to or offered a gig for like some super rich person to like, hey, come sing this is how we do it to my daughter and Dubai.

36:29And I'll give you some insane amount of money or something like. Yeah. And one of those things to the factory workers so they know how to do. We need you to inspire some corporate or rich person that hired you to do like private shows. That is happened. That is happening. Everything you just said there. So I've had very, very wealthy people that have brought me in to do something for their kid that doesn't even know who I was. I've done a concert over in Dubai and Abu Dhabi and met Shek Zayed and his family many, many years ago before the new leaders over there. So yeah, I've got some stories man. I've got some some Tom and Dad stories we can unpack one day. But is that one of the reasons why because I know that your faith is really big to you. I grew up in the church. My mom, you know, was a, you know, definitely use a church organist. And so is that like you've seen obviously and obviously in South Central, you've seen some stuff. So is that one of the reasons why later in your life you've sort of pivoted and turned a little more

37:33towards like Christian and giving back to your church and like leading worship? Is that why that's more important to you now? Yeah, well, I think I was brought up as a kid. I was brought up in church. I normally say I was always in church, but church wasn't always in me. And I've also believed that some people when it comes to ministry, they go to seminary. I went to cemetery. And I say the music business was the place that I had to go to die to be able to find out the things that are really important to me. And I could live again. And so again, this journey of 32 years in the music business, one of the greatest things that I've learned is that music doesn't define me. I define music. And so if I never pick up a microphone again, if I never sing, if I never write another song, I know who I am as a son, as a husband, as a father, as a friend, as a giver, as a contributor, like I know who I am now. And so it allows me to create music. And I'm not no longer confined to

38:35me feeling like music creates who I am. Sure. Yeah. So Montel, when you're at the Sheik's mansion, do you say in like any one of his rooms in the mansion or is it offsite in some hotel? I've always wondered that when you perform at one of these things in like the Middle East. Okay, true story. When I went to the Sheik's house, here in America, called them Sheik's, but over there, he was a Sheik. Okay. And we went to his home. I don't think he had probably been maybe ever had a black man in his house before, but is why if he had daughters there, and we were only there to have dinner, and we got invited to a private island. And you got to imagine, first of all, you're in the middle of the desert, but somehow in the middle of the desert, they created an entire lake in the middle of the desert. And he had a private mansion on an island. And so I went to the Sheik's island with my

39:36group of folks and they brought all their chefs over and cooked for us. And we jet-skied and had a great time. Pamela Anderson was there at that time when I was there. It's for the Make a Wish Foundation. My stars. Yeah. My. I'm sure you make a lot of wishes. So you're in the middle of the desert on a private island. There's a mansion. You're just there's Pam Anderson there. Also Super 90s. I mean, this is this 90s as it gets. At any time, you must have been like the whole time. You were like, this is the craziest experience. Right? Well, I mean, yes, I'm doing that, but at the same time, like I never know how people see me. I know how I view them. But like when I did my sound check, the Sheik had his sons come to my sound check because they felt like, man, if they could go to be, you know, kind of behind the scenes hanging out with Montau Jordan at his sound check, you know, you have this exclusive access to something not everybody has access to me. I was

40:38looking at it like, hey, you know, this is sound check. And so I think the same way I viewed them, they probably viewed me, you know, as somebody that had had great value. So Montau, let's talk about your book that you just you and your wife wrote and just came out with. What's what started that project? Okay, I'm going to stand up because I'm going to I'm coming right. I'm going to reach here and grab this book back right here. I want to show you the book. The book is called Shiloh and the not so scary girl above his bed came out on September the 1st. And it is the story of a little monster named Shiloh who is afraid that there's a girl lives above his bed. And the idea is my wife created this little guy because when my son Skyler was three years old, he was afraid that there was something underneath his bed. He had a childhood

41:43fear. You know, something's in the closet. I'm afraid of the dark. Well, I make friends the first day of school. And from that standpoint, she basically told him, hey, what if the thing that you are afraid of is actually more afraid of you? And by taking fear and flipping it upside down that from the vanity's point of the monster, we basically find out that there are some scary things in life, man. But even when we have to face those things, sometimes we got to do it afraid. It doesn't mean that fear won't come. Shiloh finds out that fear is still going to come, but he does not have to be afraid. And he can build on brave by taking the very next brave step. And so we have found man and we do marriage ministry with couples and stuff like that trying to help marriages. And we sit with adults all the time who are afraid to stand a relationship. They're afraid to commit their afraid to make decisions. And a lot of time that fear and anxiety is based in a childhood fear that went unattended to and then becomes an adult trauma. So we wrote this book.

42:48My wife's passion project. I'm so proud of her. And for children ages three to seven, but ultimately it's for parents and grandparents to be able to read this book to their children to help to equip them to not be fearful and to be brave. And even adults can read it and also feel like man, I'm being re-acquainted with the brave we needed in my childhood now as an adult. Man, what a fantastic. That is so killer. That is so cool. Have you been trying? Have you been when in the book came out? When did it come out? September 1st. Oh, so it's brand new. September 1st. And people can get it at ShilohTheBrave.com. And Shiloh does not have an age. The ShilohTheBrave.com. They can get it at Amazon. You can go to Barnes and Nobles, Books a Million, Anywhere, Books or so. You should be able to find Shiloh TheBrave. But if they don't have it, you should ask for it. There you go. And how different was it for you to promote a book rather than your normal like you're used to doing the circuit promoting your music.

43:52And then when it comes to promoting this book, was it an easy transition? Did you find people receptive to having you on as early on the breakfast club and a bunch of other media promoting it? How was the promotion process for the book tour? Well, I feel like my entire 30-year career, man. My wife has been a champion behind the scenes, pressing my music forward and getting songs placed. And so she's championed and cheerleaded for me. And this man after 30 something years is the first time that I get the opportunity to celebrate my amazing wife who is not only a great author, but she's also been a caregiver for me over the past couple of years. You know, I'm now a two-time cancer survivor. And her being there for me, this to me, is just one small way in me using my different influences and avenues that music has allowed me to have to be able to share this most important baby that she's delivered, you know, other than my own birth children

44:55and grandchildren. This is like a new baby for her. And so I care for just like it's, you know, we of course we did it together. We created it together, but this is really her brain child. And I want her to be able to see that I'm willing to fight for her. You are a good man, my child. We have only smokes, man. You are inspirational. I mean, look, I know you got a good wife. Yeah, I know you from music and everything, but it's just like, I mean, I guess I didn't know you until we got actually got a chance to sit down and talk to you. I mean, you are like literally, and I don't say this because I'm a pretty pessimistic guy. You are a ray of light man. You are good. Yeah, and my wife doesn't support any of my business ideas. What are all dogs? I'm a business partner. I know their dog. I tell my wife's things all the time. She's like that stupid. That'll never work. Like your idea for digital hot dogs. Yeah. It's like an in digital hot dogs. It's like an inmate telling a prison guard his business. That's how she did. She's been shushing.

45:59And look, we do a comedy show and a lot of our comedy, you know, because a lot of comedy can be rooted in the negative. You take a lot to inspire the whole chat room. Just lit up with people that are like, man, we love Montel Jordan and congrats to time cancer survivor. Congrats on that. You know, obviously that's a cancer sucks and we all know it sucks. And to see you thriving now and pushing your wife forward, that's just fantastic, man. Congrats with the book. That's really cool. Is it okay if I say this? It is prostate cancer awareness month. September. Let's do it. That is the cancer that I dealt with. I was diagnosed with prostate cancer in January of 2024. I had my prostate removed November of 2024. Cancer came back again in 2025. And I had to go through proton therapy, which is a radiation treatment, seven and a half weeks of treatment, 37 treatments. One of the most difficult periods of my life, man, over the past two and a half years. Christmas day of 2025. I finally get the call from

47:00the doctors that I am my PSA, which is a prostate specific antigen level, was finally at 0.01, which is undetectable. Undetectable is good. That means pretty much cancer free. And so I learned in that journey that I can do hard things, but I cannot do hard things alone. And I've also learned that one in every eight man is going to be diagnosed with prostate cancer. And one in every six man will be African-American. And it's twice as likely to die from prostate cancer from not getting checked or not getting screened. And so part of what I'm saying to you is if you're in the age range, if you're just an American male or just a male age 50, you need to have your prostate check. If you're an African-American male by the time you're 40, you need to have your prostate check. And this is the important part, man. If you don't hear me say nothing else, they don't do the finger check anymore. They don't have to do that. Most guys are like, I'm not going to let them put

48:01a finger in me and I'm not. It's not that anymore. It is literally a blood test. They pull blood and you have to ask for it. So if you go for a regular check up tomorrow and get, you know, give blood or whatever, they're not going to check for PSA because the government doesn't require it. And so they just don't do it. But you'd have to say, hey, I want you to check my PSA. And if you do that, they put in the extra couple of bucks for that to take place. But you got to know your numbers. Guys, if I had not been checked, if I had not been going for regular screenings and for checkups, y'all would be just playing. This is how we do it. But hey, y'all remember Montez? Oh, right. I mean, the 90s, you know, and I wouldn't be here anymore. It was because I was diligent in my health, you know, for my wife, for my children, my grandchildren, for my family legacy. And I'm saying that to somebody watching this right now that literally, I don't know, I never get emotional on these things. But I literally, guys, I can literally be saving somebody's life. For sure. That one guy could watch this and be like, you know what? I'm going to go get

49:05checked because Montez, Jordan said, this is how we do it. And if you find that you get a diagnosis, first of all, hopefully find everything is great. But if you get a diagnosis, a diagnosis, not a death sentence, man, a diagnosis is the thing that's going to help you preserve your life. And so hopefully somebody does that today. Yes, sir. I like getting mind checked the old school way while I'm listening to this is how we do it. I was thinking there has to be a small percentage of people that were and you do and you don't have to do it three times a week. Guys, yeah, Tom's always there. It's always late. I was at my doctor. Can't be too careful. It's a small percentage of people had to have been disappointed when now they could do it with a blood test. Very small. I just actually did my last week. That's funny. There you say I did my last week. Tom, he doesn't go to the doctor. But we'll get work on it. The blood test, it does make it easy. And again, get your tickets. I love the 90s tour.com. Montel Jordan's going to be in

50:10St. Pete this coming Friday. Get your tickets and also get that book, Shiloh and the not so scary girl above my bed. Montel has been great talking to you. What a pleasure, man. Hey, thank you for the time. And if you're ever in Orlando, we'd love to we'd love to chat with the in person. Okay. Thanks a lot, guys. I appreciate you. I love your listeners and your followers. Those that have blown up the chat or whatever. Hey, I appreciate you. Hopefully, I'll grab that book and take care of your bodies, man. It's the only one we got. We'll do it. We'll do it. Cheers, man. Have a good rest of your day. My guys. See you. See you. That is Montel Jordan. What a positive good. Good. Look, man, we don't do a lot of positivity around here, but I love that. That was good. The inspirational dude. It's it's coming from a real place. So you can tell. He can't. That guy. Yeah. It looks great. My god. Yeah. Cancer. That's what makes me real mad. I'm cancer. Once that's okay. I'm a Daniel. Never have. He looks literally. I look like cancer. I look like human. How much older

51:11than Montel? Do you look even me? 25 years old. He looked great. He looked great. Well, go, yeah, go get the book. You know, it's one of those things, too. It's going to say it's, you know, well, Jerry Demings here locally. Yeah. Yeah. No, he just got. He just had his prostate removed. And he was back on the job like a week later. And he says the same thing. And again, a black man blood test made. There's some truth to that. You know, he said, you know, had he not been checked. He may not be. May not be with us anymore. And nowadays you can just go online and order blood tests online and pay for him yourself. You know yourself. You don't need. Yeah. Like you can do it from quest. It's now more easy than it's ever been to to take control of your own health care. Like you could order blood tests online. Go do them. Get the results. And you run the results through chat. Gbt. I mean, it'll tell you your prostate levels, you know, like make sure you pay for that one. And but you can check yourself. PSA tests. Yeah. Very, very simple. You could do it. I literally just did my last week. You don't even need to go to a doctor nowadays. Like you could just, you know, take your own blood tests.

52:12Whatever one they have all of them. You could order whatever blood tests you want. I just like any of somebody doing it. And then they get a very high PSA. And they're like, they feed it back in there. Like, well, I got to operate them myself. Well, the certain limitations. Yeah, there is. But I don't know the future. We're going to have a some prostate barobot. Oh, you just take your bottle. Oh, you just take your butt through the wall. I thought that Japanese game show. Take it right out of this. You go that. All right. Well, I should have said that. I'll see you tomorrow. If you're looking for a vehicle, Don Mealy Chevrolet right there in Claremont. Newer use. Newer use. Yeah. They got a great selection of used vehicles. DM Chevy.com is their website. You can check out all the inventory on there. But just talk to JC Harrelson. He's a general sales manager over there. He'll put you in contact with the sales person. They will help you out. I got my Chevy Silverado from them. My wife got her Chevy Traverse from them. If you want to admit engine Corvette, if you want to step it up, uh, it's so crazy. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Live a little bit. Yeah. The world is burning. Get

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