A Numbers Game | September 2, 2026 | Hour 3

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1:00The numbers told the story. Now he's down swandles idiots believe in analytics. This is a numbers game with Gill. I like Xander gone. Be sent hour number three of a numbers game of beast in these sports. That he networked decent calm game plus I hard radio YouTube TV series except channel 158. Couple notes. You had Townsend in your parlay Taylor Townsend. Yeah, one leg home. She was double parked outside. Yeah, that was quick. Well, that was like real quick right? What is matches start 6161 breadsticks against Taylor Preston. Boom. You got that one in. I kind of did the is it the Paul car? I'm mixing up who we give credit to first. Betting theories the play against a no-name like a name you don't recognize. I don't know that one. The name versus no name. And then like his champions league like we play like, you know, Real Madrid versus someone you've never heard of. The Paul car handicap that I love the most is I'm just going to bet on the better team. I don't care. Yeah, maybe I'm just mixing up things. But I'm like I started some of these tennis names and I'm like, Gil goes through tennis bets every day on this show. I'm like, how have I never heard this name?

2:01Oh, yeah. That's how I put together some of these because there's hundreds of these players, right? Yeah. I was I was looking the other day. Like Taylor Fritz is yesterday. I'm just I just ran bullet. I just looked at my script played a Darwin Blanche. Yeah. I went through the men's and women's rankings sometime the last few months. And I'm like, how far do I have to go down before I don't recognize it? Oh, that's how it's like when Paul scored. Doesn't recognize a pitcher who gets called up is I'm like, if you don't know who that pitcher is, nobody does. Oh, it's terrifying. It's like the first round of a PGA tour event. The answer will be like, who's that guy? I'm like, no idea. The answer. That's right. I do that with golf of you. Like you know, who is he? You're like, no, like in January. Kelly, who's who's a Rio? He's not Sudan. Well, no idea. Didn't realize he's going to be hanging around for the whole year. The answer for me was I had to get to like 140th before I didn't recognize somebody. But is and Zach might recognize because Zach plays Zach Betts' challenge of tour stuff. The one that I'm looking at right now, again, none of our bets are in play, none of our matchbets. But Medvedev is on his way to having a two-set lead over Gorsny. So Medvedev cruising, Nakashima down a set.

3:05Now, that's the joke of itch quarter. We have Medvedev 7 to 1. A lot of other people have Nakashima targeting the same quarter, figuring it wasn't going to be Novak's year. Nakashima goes down. We're looking good with Medvedev. But a long way to go. It's pesto 5. Where are you? Where are you at? What website are you at right now to check tennis scores? Where's your go to tennis scores site? Usually Flash score. But this I'm just looking at on Google. Okay. Yeah. This Flash score, you can see how point by point how it went. Okay. Heat check. Cool up 32. Okay. Sorry. Just looking at scores now too. Oh, listen to this. We got more tweets all on them. They're all about Roy Rogers and McDonald's. Robert Schaefer, one of my favorite parts of shooting down to Jersey is hitting Roy Rogers still at multiple rest stops. Along the the GSP. The Garden State Parkway for those who don't know. David Griffin McDonald's at East West Highway. What a flashback as it was right near my high school BCC. I remember the growing number served.

4:05Bethesda J. High School famous alumnus. Tommy Davidson from in living color. What was the double R bar at Roy Rogers? Double R bar was I want to say roast beef at a burger. Okay. Was it ham at a burger or roast beef at a burger? This is Roast B for the burger. Chris Flika texting in. Yeah, double R bar was my jam. Double R bar was the best he said. And the fried fried chicken better than KFC. I don't remember the fried chicken. I'll tell you what's great. I don't really. The coleslaw was great too. Good coleslaw. Robbie J 920. I'd be pulling for Osteepenco to make a deep run simply because I love hearing the greatest nickname in tennis. The hamburger brings a smile to my face every time. Well, we're fading Osteepenco with touch out of Maria. So I hope you're not right, but I appreciate the sentiment. I will say this the migration of a nickname on this show is fantastic because I would call her the hamburger and then drew Dinsik migrated it to the hamburger. Burger. And now everybody calls it the hamburger or sometimes. Yeah. Willie Bebetton going back to the wheelhills segment says fraudulent book maker. Okay, heat check.

5:06Oh, by the way, here's the six tennis place earlier for you missed today's new ones. On the men's side, Jacob Fierneley against Tomas Martinez-Avery, Lloyd Harris as a big dog plus 195 versus Stefano Stitsipas James Duckworth plus 142 versus Yubing Wu. Oh, I crack, crack, crack, I'm with you on Duckworth. Because I've never heard of Wu. It ladies side Oksana Selik Medova plus 147 versus Camila Rachimova. And then the tie La Lana Tara Rudy plus 350 huge dog against Wimbledon champ Linda Noscowa. And then Katie McNally plus one away versus Evan Evaro battle of two Americans. I played McNally as well with you on that one. Fierneley Harris Duckworth men's side Selik Medova Tara Rudy McNally on the lady side. All right. A great job with pronunciation. Thanks. That was better than me. Thank you, buddy. Pretty shocked. I got to know. All right. We heat check on MVP and LAL and Sai Young. Three of these are Dunzo in my opinion. Okay. And we've we've made the case for them now for months.

6:07I hope people bet all both of these guys because they've gone from from when we started talking about it. They were plus money propositions, both of them. And now they are wild prohibitive favorites talking about NL Sai Young. Excuse me. NL MVP and AL MVP first NL MVP. P. Crow Armstrong is now minus 1400 and our reasoning or at least my reasoning here on the show was. All things being equal and all things were kind of equal. I know people are like, hey, but what about Shohei's pitching? Yeah, but still he hadn't pitched in a while. And my point was if all things are kind of equal voters are going to look for any reason to give it to someone other than Shohei because they know that most years they're going to kind of have to give it to Shohei because of the pitching. Now, Shohei had 85 and two third innings of great pitching 1.79 ball, but hasn't pitched since. Let's see. Hasn't pitched since, uh, I don't know July 3rd due to left knee inflammation and right biceps

7:08tightness. And listen, I understand that it might be not correct to do this, but these are human beings. And they facing the prospect of having to give a Shohei 10 to 12 MVP's you look for a reason out. And now by the way, P. Crow Armstrong has made this easy now for us. Five home run out first this weekend. His war is better than that of Shohei. Average right on par by the way on base and slugging now are really on par with Shohei too. They weren't before right Shohei at least had him in the slash categories. He doesn't really have them on those anymore, but homers he leads by eight 38 to 30 stolen bases 32 to 10 more runs 180 eight more ribbies 91 to 80. His war at fangrasses 9.3, even if you combine Shohei's hitting and pitching war, it does not add up to that of PCA. So to me, by the way, did I make that up 3.9? What's his war here? 6.8. Oh, no, actually they do. They do exceed his 9.3.

8:08But like I said, this is good. They were looking for a reason. And now P. Crow Armstrong is going to win this award. He is absolutely going to win this. He's minus 1400. York, Oliver has been saying the whole time through even when he was in plus money. He's winning the triple crown race in the A.L. He's winning other categories. Right now Kelly, he still leads in average 317 in the American league. That's pretty good. He's tied for homers with junior Camanyero at 37. Okay. So his triple crown status is now shaky because Camanyero is making a run at him at home runs. They're even. He leads an RBI with 94. On base percentage, he leads that in the American league 432. He leads in slugging 605 talking about Alvarez. He's second in hits of 155 behind Yendi, Yendi Diaz of the race. And he's second in runs scored 91 runs to Miguel Vargas of the Chicago White Sucks. It's your dance and your dance minus 2500. And has always been your dance. Everyone was waiting for an injury. Never happened. What do you think about the, uh, those are Dunzo trying to pull up like the triple crown props

9:08that I've seen. Even if show Hey comes back and has a good pitching outing or two, I think it's Dunzo in the end. Okay. So like this was like two days ago. I think I saw this. So yeah, I'm quoting a bad number. I saw the no price on him to win triple crown at like minus 350. Doesn't that doesn't that's a terrible number? Doesn't that sound too strong? Yeah, everything you just went through. They're tied in home runs. And he's not like, yeah, I mean, he's tied in home runs with junior Camini, all takes us that it's over. All right, NL Siong is done too. We've been talking about this even when Jacob Mizierowski was in short minus money. These are all leading in MLB. Forget NL. But he leads the major leads in ERA 1.73. We're talking about Miz now, the Miz 150 batting average against these. The Jacob Mizierowski stats need to be talked about more. Let me repeat 1.73 ERA 150 batting average against all first and major. Lee baseball 0.75 whip first in MLB 79 hits allowed 29er runs allowed first first MLB 222 Ks first

10:12major league baseball 38.9% K rate first major league baseball. His war is tied with Sanchez Christopher Sanchez at 5.7 war for pictures. Tango numbers on Miz. Remember Tom Tango. He's picked 34 of the last 40 or 32 of the last 38. I can never remember correctly saw young. I think it's 34 and a 40. I think he's done for the last 20 years. It would be 34 at 40 correctly. 82.7 Miz 74.9 Sanchez. Miz is running away. That one's over to okay. A couple questions real quick. This applies to both the NL awards MVP and Saiyong. What numbers would you have to have available to you to even consider a bet on Chris sale or show Hayotani? Because as you're going through all this I'm like this is done. Chris sale. You're like getting seven to one. Chris sale would have to be exponentially great. You need another zero for me. Like it just like 30 to one. Would you bet? No. Yeah absolutely. Okay. This is my point and show Hayotani. Show Hay you could you can make. Hey, what if he came back tomorrow and he had four ridiculous outings on the mound?

11:16But is that like is that realistic? No he's not going to come back tomorrow. Yeah, okay. Yeah, I just I just do. The one that is up for grabs is a L. Saiyong and I still don't know the answer to this one. Cam Schlittler 12 and six with a 2.09 ERA 201 Ks. Has given up 38 earn runs. Dylan C. So the blue Jays 9 and 5 so three fewer wins 2.33 ERA. So behind by 24 points in ERA 217. Gays is 16 more Ks than does Schlittler. Way higher K percentage at 36.1% than Schlittler's 30.9% and he's given up 39 earn runs one more than that of Schlittler. Tango numbers Tom Tango numbers. Schlittler 75.9 C 66.9 he doesn't have it close. Schlittler by the way is minus 170 Dylan C. is plus 145 in the market. So tango's numbers corroborate that. Why does tango's numbers corroborate that? Because tango's formula that has picked 34 out of the last 40.

12:16Is Jews advanced stats and goes right to the baseball card stats of innings pitched? Earn runs that one's a washer run but innings pitched Schlittler 163 and 2.3 C. is 150 and a third strikeouts C says they'd manage but wins wins is big. I know we say it doesn't matter but apparently maybe it's back tested. I don't know if he's if he did it that way but either way wins seems to seep in two voters thoughts whether we like it or not. CBS Sunday September 13th the new season of 60 minutes begins. Okay let's go. Every second a story unfolds. This is one of the great mysteries of human nature. Every minute a new question. You were buying access to the president. Every week a deeper understanding. When we take the field the expectations are to win. It's time. We're preparing to go out on this race for the new season. It was gunfight all the way in all the way out.

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15:21That's that's true. John Balduce does anyone else remember the old RB sign that was the cowboy hat I do. Yeah, Rockville Pike had that one. I think there might be one here in Vegas. I was going to say I think they're I think they're still around. Yeah, I think one in the RB's yeah, RB's everywhere. Let's go like the science. Like I think scattered at least. Yeah, let's go Mount near stable says and F and a B just L.O. L.D. in my quiet office at work when will he'll drop that gem best show and sports hands down. Thank you. Let's go Mount Mount near stable. Charles and kinetic agree that Roy Rogers fried chicken better than KFC, especially dipped in the horse radish sauce. And my preferred choice over any of the burgers. I could read more tweets, but I won't because he'll get mad A and B. He might have eaten that Roy Rogers in his past as well. From Pittsburgh PA, it's toddy wish never everybody to host. Or I should say the star of wish never Wednesdays, the star of the mega pod, which comes back next week for a week. What are the national football league? What's up, toddy? By all means, let's talk more about fast food when the fee, but women's world cop

16:21starts on Friday, all games on Adrienne back. Now I would like to take a shot at his friends william, Hilton trying to give me the business about being right on everything. When the guy gives out the first three and first five in the marlins game, but yet doesn't even tell you a minus one 20 about his 15th hour, you supposed to know. Thank you, Will and thank you, Gil for showing both of you. You're an entity. Thank you. Todd wish never everybody at T wish never on Twitter. Todd, two questions. One, you're not betting the feeble world cup. Are you perhaps in the WNBA? I just found out two seconds ago that it's on TV. So I may because I know a lot of these girls on a lot of these teams, because there's girls from the WNBA on all the different teams. Like France has Gabby Williams and Rangel Hawnis and China has a bunch of girls that I know. So I know these teams, so maybe I might dabble. Okay. In the live. If they're signed. Such an awkward break of this latin the season, isn't it?

17:22It is. I needed a break. I had run it all the way up to 21 units and now I'm down to only up two units. I just totally lost my my my mojo in it. But you know, what are you going to do? What are you going to do? Feeba World Cup Women's Outright odds. USA minus 400. France 8 to 1 Belgium 10 to 1 Australia 16 to 1. Everybody else 25 to 1 or longer. Yeah. We're going to dominate. We, meaning us, the US of A. Okay. QNBA haters like you and Will should not be saying. We're not WNBA haters. I like it. I like the league. What are you talking about? No, no, no. I know you just know you will just because you hate Caitlin Clark. That's a whole different story. Okay. We're probably in favor of them throwing different things on the court that are that can't be said in. I am not in nice company. That's not true. I'm not I'm not sure you are. Have you eaten a Roy Rogers before? Have you in your past? Yes. I mean, that is serious question. Is that a serious question?

18:22Well, I would like to obviously that's a yes. Where's the fried chicken rank? Todd the serious question. Where's the fried chicken? Have you ever had the fried chicken? I, you know what? I have any any of that stuff in over five months. My blood sugar is good. I don't even want to talk about it. Sorry. We're all putting it in. You know, don't put it in his head. That kind of discussion is just terrible. That's right. You should know better. That's a thin guy. He, he, he cannot have even the discussion. He can't get. I don't want to deceive into his brain. All right. College football week zero happened last week, obviously. You were back at it live betting college football and you have some lessons to impart for us. I mean, I don't know if they're lessons, but I would say that there may be some little insights into what, you know, different scenarios and stuff, which I think are interesting. You know, I wasn't watching the Robert Morris game in the first half. They were playing some, you know, they've got, they do have ESPN plus on a lot of these game sites. Watch the second half, but I'm looking at the stats and I'm like, oh my god, these teams can't move the ball at all.

19:23So I played under 31 and a half and I lost because of a defensive touchdown. But in my mind, it was the right play because, you know, typically you don't see the defensive touchdown. So that was an interesting situation. The, here's where, here's one I wanted to talk about was kind of interesting. Florida State was playing New Mexico State, okay? There are like a 30 point favorite. And this is where when you watch a lot of games and you look at a lot of statistics, you can start to glean insight. What are the stats supposed to look like in a game where it's 31 point spread? You know, what you should know what it's supposed to look like, okay? I'm watching the game. You're looking for midway second quarter Florida State to be average in nine or ten yards of play because they can't be stopped even in the slightest bit. And you're looking for the other team probably to be averaging two yards of play. That's kind of what it should look like. It didn't look like that because New Mexico State was moving the ball and Florida State was moving the ball by the only averaging like seven and a half yards of play. Score was 17, seven. I said to myself, for sure, New Mexico State team total is the correct thing to play over.

20:29Now, why do I say that? The pregame was 53 and in Florida State 31. Now, if you, if you don't know how to do a pregame team total from just knowing the spread, you take half of the total, which is, let's say 50, let's just say call it 54 to make it easy. 27 is half. And if the spread is 30, let's say that's 15 for each way. So that's 27 plus 15 is 42. 27 minus 15 is 12. Half of the 30 point spread, right? And you get a team total 4212. That's where what you're looking for is a 30 point spread on a 54 total. 4212 is what the team totals are going to be around because that's if you add it up, that's 30 and that's 54, right? 42 plus 12 is 54. Confluence spread. So you know, pregame total, yes. Right. So you know, pregame, people are looking for New Mexico State to score 12. And they, and they're looking for Florida State to score around 42. So it's 17, seven midway, maybe a little bit into the second quarter.

21:32And I see New Mexico States moving at about four and a half yards of play. They really shouldn't be moving that well. They are. I'm like, I got to get on this over on it because I know New Mexico State is going to score now. I thought, should I play New Mexico State team total? Or should I play just the total of the game, which was right around 52 at that point? I thought to myself, wow, Florida State isn't averaging nine yards of play, but still seven and a half yards of play, they'll probably continue to score, especially in the second half. And I know New Mexico States going to score. So I just, I'm just going to play the total of the full game ended up. I played like over 53. I think New Mexico State did score and had I played their team total, which I think at that point was maybe around 14 and a half or something. They ended up with 17. And I believe Florida State had 34 or something or something around there. But the point is I outsmarted myself because I played the full game total instead of the team total New Mexico State, which I really liked. But I thought to myself, hey, it's probably better just to do the full game total, because you're going to get a New Mexico scores. And Florida State sooner or later is going to start to roll.

22:35That was my theory. And I lost by two points, but would have won the New Mexico State side. The point that I'm trying to make, I guess, is go ahead. No, I was good. I said, no, finish with thought. No, I'll have to follow up the point you're trying to make is the point that I was, that I'm trying to make is if you watch enough of these games, you know what a 30 point underdog statistic should look like in the second quarter. So awesome. And I knew that New Mexico State was moving the ball too much to have a team total that low. Okay. Similarly, you as seen as well, you as see at a similar game with San Jose State, San Jose State was moving the ball too much to have such a low total. I don't remember exactly what it was, but it was very low. Okay. Here's my one follow up to the person who bets in game or is an aspiring in game better who likes what you're saying, but would have this question, would say, yeah, that makes sense, Todd. But what, why wouldn't I think, I understand what you're saying, but why wouldn't I conversely think, oh, yeah, that's what's happened.

23:35This ought to regress to the mean. In other words, it ought to regress to what the preflop number is. Wouldn't the, wouldn't the counter to that counter be? We don't know what these teams are yet. So there is like, how can you even know what regression to the mean even means at that point? But also, I think that that I've watched enough of these games to know that if a 20 minutes into the game, if New Mexico state was moving the ball as well as they were, no, I'm not saying they were moving the ball great, but they were moving it, you know, and maybe averaging four and a half yards of play, that's not going to regress. That should not even be happening period. Okay. In that kind of game, the fact that it's happening at all, it's only going to get worse for fullers day because as they get further ahead, they're going to put in second and third string and that team might even move the ball more, which is what we saw in San Jose State. Early on, they only had the one touchdown and then late, they put on a bunch of touchdowns because they could move it a bit against USC's first team. They could move it a lot against USC's second and third team defense. So I don't think the regression happens as much in scenarios like that.

24:41Always fascinating. Todd Wischnever, everybody's the discord open. Are you full still? I think we're full. I mean, we might have some spots. I'm not sure. I haven't figured it out. Stay tuned on that. Thank you, Todd Wischnever. Everybody at T Wischnever. I'm a numbers game on FESET these sports betting network. Haha. Back on a numbers game live from circle resort. You see it up down to Las Vegas. Radio's Gill Alexander. Television's Kelly Billa. Hello. You good? I'm great, man. I'm just reading up on Ely Nevada. You know, at first time I ever heard of Ely Nevada was Chrissy Anders. My first book of Bones brought up Ely. He once did a beating the book podcast from a pay phone in Ely Nevada, I believe. For you, serious? I'm pretty sure that happened. This was a, uh, man, I don't think I've ever read this about a city before. Ely was founded as a stage coach station. And Ely comes up because Mark Bortrard was traveling from Montana to, uh, back there. I don't know. Yeah. With the dogs in the car is actual dogs as pets.

25:44And he made it a whole 3900 people live there as of 2020. Wow. Mark Bortrard joins us now courtesy of progressive guest line. You may know him better as bass winner. You can follow all his stuff at basswinter basswinter.com. He joins us now from an undisclosed location somewhere in the desert, back where he lives. How you doing, Mark? I'm doing great. Yeah. Ely Nevada, not a bad place, actually. The weather's better in the summer. It was beautiful up there when I stayed the night there, uh, at, at a, what the hell was that place called the Pondirosa Hotel Casino? A dog friendly casino. Yes. And, uh, so it's pretty cool. And they have, you know, I'm a big track and field guy. Do masters track and they have white pine high school. Has a brand new, I mean, they must have spent at least a million dollars on that track. It's a great facility. I'm thinking about, you know, wine garden used to say, hey, we're going to have a handy camper, uh, headquarters like a camp like a, like a, like a, what was it? A compound. A compound. I think that the handy camper compound out there would really work well. But yeah, so I got down to 1,400 miles driving with dogs and a pack,

26:48a land cruiser. Uh, uh, I really saw the west coast. That's what I, that's what I got to say, Gil, right? You said in there, I don't want to let this slide. You said you're a big fan of track and field. What, what, what event did you use to do in track and field that we found so amusing? Well, I actually trained for the pentathlon. So it's the, uh, the first event's, it's a long jump. And then, uh, let's have a win 200 meters, discus and 1,500 meters. So yeah, I really, that's one of the things I do outside of handy camping, uh, that I'm super serious about, you know, for a 56 year old guy. Absolutely. What, what leads one in that direction? What, what, when do you wake up and say, you know what I'd like to do today? I'd like to throw a javelin or learn how to when that's. Well, I, I've always liked to run. There's a, there's a really nice, uh, talk about a great facility at Paradise Valley College here in, in, in Scottsdale, outside of Scottsdale. And so I've always run and sprinted and, uh, a couple of years ago, I started the long jump.

27:49And then I thought, well, you know, what I can, I can throw the javelin. I did it a little bit when I was in my 30s that, the pentathlon. And, uh, I said, well, I can go back and, and do that. So it, uh, you know, I love being outdoors, Gil. It, it's really, it's, you're, you're sitting on a computer all day, uh, grinding numbers, writing code and handicapped. And it's nice to get out and, and get some fresh air. You ever done the steeple chase mark where you're hurtling into water? Yeah. Never done that. No, I don't, but I have a really good friend, Flash, who actually went to the world master's shit. His name's Flash. And he's really good. And he went to the world, world master's championship. It was in, you know, you would like this at South Korea. Uh, De, DeGoo, is that how you pronounce it? Yeah, that, that's where he went. Why would I love South Korea? What are you trying to say? I'm sorry. Go ahead. No, I, I think you vacation there. I think that you like, I've been there. I've been there. I've been there. I may know, I may know a, a Korean. Yes. Yeah. Okay. Yes. Okay. Yeah. Oh, we're just waiting for you to continue now. Mark it. Who's at the end of the last story? Flash. Why is he going to be one of the steeplechase for, I think,

28:51that he's 45 to 49 age group and he wanted it. It was, it was a good race. I, I'm very proud of him. Didn't, uh, boss hog and duke's a hazard call his little basset how in flash, I believe. I think that's, that's like, wait, Mark, Mark, have you ever, sorry, but we talked to Drew Dinsick once a week. Yeah. Like, have you ever, have you ever handicapped track and field? Like, have you ever bet this during the Olympics or anything? Yes. I, well, I actually have a really good friend. And I can't disclose who it is because he, he, he told me never disclose who the friend is. And he actually, at bookmaker, they had, uh, they were the only available lines. And he was really good. He would do the diamond league and, and the Olympics and, uh, they ended up, they ended up taking the markets off. And he's like, he's like, I'll give you the place, but you got to, you got to monitor how much you bet. Because they're going to know it's me. I'm like, okay. And I did. And, but I can't, I will tell you guys who it is off air, but I can't, I can't do it on air. Okay. I vowed secrecy to the guy. Love it. I love that. Does it rhyme with Mason Mind Martin? No, no, no, no, very, well, I can't, I don't know why to get, I'll tell you guys, I'll tell you guys,

29:52so off air. Yeah. Okay. What's your land on in baseball today, Mark? What are you betting? Well, you know, today, I'm going to, this is going to be the best parlay for, for physics and the history of parlay. So it's, it's the Yankees Dodgers. A money line parlay. Let's go. And, uh, I mean, if that's as blue button, blood and squares, it can be. That's it. But, you know, the numbers line up here. I've got, I've got the Yankees with Slitler. I've got them about minus two or one. And they're in the market about minus one 60. So I think that's a good play. And then, uh, Yamma will be there today, Gil, I think. I think the Dodgers minus two 40, I think they should be closer to minus 300. You know, this Dodger team has been very sketchy as of late. I've, I've bet this, oh, and I'm going to do this too. Team total Dodgers over two and a half. You can get that at minus one and a wait. I think it should be about minus one 34 to be precise, uh, based on the, uh, run projection and the Peson calculator. Uh, but, uh, I would put those together in a parlay.

30:53I bet both of them on the run line too. You can get them both on the run line about even money, Gil. Okay. You have a straight bet for us. So that, does it lose a month? Yeah, let's, let's, let's do this one. Uh, uh, I think you'll appreciate this bet. Baltimore minus one and a half minus 105. Bring, bring back some childhood memories for Mr. Gil. Yeah. And, uh, uh, Sugano is the worst guy on the board today from, uh, uh, hits per plate appearance. Total bases per plate appearances allowed. League average is 0.36. He's at 0.475. There's only five pictures that are worse than him. And I think four of them have been released. So that's a good sign for the, uh, for the, uh, for the Orioles. Um, and so I think that wasn't Sugano the guy that like, if you blindly tailed the Rockies when he pitched of any starting pitcher in baseball, you made the most money backing him to. Wasn't he the guy? I think you're right. Yeah. It's one of those guys, you know, and, and he ride the same way we talked about him a couple weeks ago where all the Sabre metrics are terrible. And they caught up to him last night, but, uh, I mean, he was just pitching, uh,

31:56outside of his, his ASS, uh, from a Sabre metric standpoint. And, uh, so that caught up with him. And I think that, you know, you can, some of these guys are building the Zodill like, remember Martin Perez a couple of years ago, and you would say, uh, Chris Young, you go, go way back in the day. Chris Young, uh, for the, for the royals, do Chris Young. I used to bet that dude six foot 10. I think he's now the GM of the Rangers, isn't he? But he's Chris, Chris Young, when he pitched, man, I used to bet on him because his Sabre metrics were just led me to it. And he would win more often than not. He would get the job done. But yeah, there's got, there's littered with guys. When you bring a Martin Perez, though, I'm just, just thinking to myself, how are we still betting on this guy in 2026? Amazing. He's still playing. It's crazy. You know, these guys, he's one of them, and anomaly and Blackburn, uh, when he pitched with the A is was the same way. I think he think he's out of the league right now. Last time checked, he was in the bullpen for the Yankees, but I think that they, they released him. But, uh, you know, you have these guys who where you have,

32:56you have really poor Sabre metrics, uh, but they continue to win and, and, and, uh, that's the way Sugano is. And it just, it leads you to a, uh, I guess a philosophical question. How long are you going to play the Sabre metrics versus, uh, you know, what the guys produce, right? Yeah. Okay. Two questions here before you go. One, did you come up with any team for the month of September? As your favorite, oh, I do, Gil, I actually have three teams and, and congratulations. If you do, congratulations on your, if you do exact percentages, Gil, okay. Uh, I've got to like, I've got the Dodgers as of today. And this updates every day for me. I made this application. I have to share it with you. It's really cool. But they're 30.3 percent, uh, to, to win the month of September. So that should be plus two 31. You can get them at draft kings plus 320. Billy, again, got me there last last month. Congratulations. I got 13. Yeah, it was, it was great. What a fun time. And I wrote about it as the, if you guys want to see like, like, a fun success story about the month, the month simulations,

33:59go to my site, read my post, because it was, it was a real good journey. Uh, but I've got them. They should be plus 625. Uh, they're in the mark right now plus 1200. And then the third team that showing value is, uh, the Guardian's. I've got them 11.2 percent to win. Uh, so plus 793 would be, be the right, the right price, the fair price for me. And they're plus 1400. So I think that those three teams are the ones that are showing value. And real quick, uh, I'm waiting for these division winner, uh, monthly markets. Because I actually have the application handicaps. Those two and, uh, shout out to a couple of people who actually listened to me, you know, Bob, uh, get us, I think is how you pronounced his last name. Uh, he, he tweets on your show a lot. Mm-hmm. He got the Astros at 14 to one. Uh, I think I gave that out maybe a week before the season, uh, or before the, the month landed or, maybe 10 days or something like that. So I, I'm waiting for these division markets. I don't know if draft games has been going to put them out. Uh, they, they did about maybe on the third or the fourth of the, uh,

35:00of the, of the month last, last month. So I'm waiting for that and, uh, you know, hopefully we'll be able to talk about those as well, girl. Last question, 30 seconds. We went over World Series matchups earlier on the show. What would be a World Series matchup that you would be interested in seeing how it's priced if you could bet it right now? Mm-hmm. You know, I, I'm showing like, uh, Tampa Bay maybe, and I have to look at the prices. I know, uh, I would say maybe Tampa Bay, like a Tampa Bay Philly would be a good one. Um, 35 to one. 35 to one. Does that, does that interest you? Might that be something that might interest you? I would, I would have to, I'd have to run the map though, but I have, I, you know, each team to win the World Series I have. And so like, it's just basically a, a multiplication of both those teams. So that would be right off the top of my head. Yeah, Mark Borschard, everybody. Thank you, Mark. Congratulations on the Phillies again in August. We'll recap all the bets next on a numbers game. What's better than watching college football? Watching it on your own terms with slang.

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37:08A numbers game. Unbarte, tito de numeros. Laform. Certain resort. You seem to downtown Las Vegas. Once again, partito. Used in Spain as the word for a game. I don't want South American Spanish folks saying it's juego. Ladies and gentlemen, I have a tweet that corroborates my dukes of hazard. Memory on flash. Dude, I don't even know what Mark Borscher just talked about. It was so entertaining. I laughed. I feel like a cried. It was an entire experience. It brought up like the Ponderosa Hotel, right? This hotel is there. Yeah. I'm pretty sure this place does not have a website. Can you imagine a company in 2026 not having a website? That's kind of fantastic. Right? Yeah. If you're going to go with a brand, go with it. I mean, just, I type this in the Ponderosa Hotel and casino. It's just yelp reviews and Reddit reviews. By the way, we should mention before I read the rest of the tweets. Tonight is the final episode of the circus survivor quest for 18.7 million dollar

38:08dock. Yes. Kelly prominently featured according to Kelly in episode number six, where he said as Gil says, and then he just said anything. Yeah, I don't even know. I like had a medical event. I'm going to watch that. It is tonight premieres tonight. Wednesday night, 9 p.m. Eastern 6 p.m. Pacific. Or you can go back if you miss any episodes. Watch them at YouTube at Vison live YouTube. Not YouTube TV, but YouTube itself, the Vison live page. We have all of those episodes one through six already up there. Seventh and final episode tonight, the quest for 18.7 million dollar circus survivor. Shout out to Steven Shalansky. Shout out to James Ferra. Yes. Who produced this? Yes. Absolutely. Our friend Matt Brown, I guess. Well, these guys have worked so hard on this all year long. Yeah, man. It's incredible. Absolutely. Props, profit went down the rabbit hole of nostalgic fast food chains and chains I can't find in LA. Roy Rogers was one. I grew up in New York. I remember going on Queens Boulevard, lived in Miami and still crave the chicken soup

39:09from Poio Tropic Al after a hangover. Wow. Charlie D USA number one has a picture of not a boss hog holding flash, but of Roscoe peak culture and holding flash. Dell, mind the gap radio. Back in the 90s when New Jersey sports line had a 900 scored phone. I used to wear the plan. Tronics headset that bass winner was wearing in the last segment to answer the score phone. Roy Rogers for lunch in the 90s. Las Vegas 504. Yo, flash was Roscoe peak cold trains. Bass at hand. I'm sorry. He barked and growled wherever boss hog was around. Rough rough. I didn't. I forgot about that. You're right. He didn't like boss hog. Trojan Ram, Gill was Roscoe peak cold train. Oh, and flash not boss hog. These best listeners ever. Keith for an EA in case nobody else has replied. I originally learned mind your pees and cues as an old English pub thing from when they kept your tab of pines and chords on a chalkboard. Pairly there are there are other origin theories. Yes, there are. It's not no one knows for sure. I just can't believe how many people we've had tweet in that said they've heard that before.

40:09I like I did Google. There was the pit the printing press one that we had earlier and then here's one. Manor's shortcut shortcut. The letters stand for please and thank you. You. You. Pees and cues please and thank you. I mean, that makes that makes more sense to me too, even though it doesn't make sense. Trek McVeigh quote tweeting. Lennora sellers who is interning at a at a golf at a putt putt golf course. That was a driving range. It was a driving range. It appears he's not taking it very seriously. I really I got a couple of things to follow up on before we get to Betts. Sagano is that that was the picture for the Rockies. Trying to I was trying as you and Mark have in this conversation. Yeah, who has those money stats? Yeah, I forgot covers. I was just yeah, yeah. Fourth, 14 and 10 would have made your little over 11 years to be first at the Q3 derivative show. He was the first and water Rod Regas. He brought Mark bottom up right after that. 21 and seven. Yeah, over $1300. He's number one. It shows you those pitching stats are just like the blind betting figures ridiculous with those guys.

41:12And then I wasn't crazy on that. The triple crown you can get plus 350. Yes. On your down to with the triple crown. The draft Kings. Wow, right? So you got like 20 plus games 20 some odd games left. 320. He leads RBI's he leads. Well, here's the thing. He's tied with junior Caminiero. Talk about your net. Alvarez. He's tied with junior Caminiero for home runs. The again, the baseball card triple stats, triple crown stats of home run RBI and average. Currently with RBI, that's the thing. I don't think he has a comfortable lead in in RBI either is RBI lead is let's say. He's got 94 and Peter Lonzo has 91. Okay, these three three RBI lead. And then average. I think averages. He's he's oh averages. He's 316 Chandler Simpson of the raises 310. So average average in RBI, he can kind of get there even if he's not spectacular at this point.

42:18Right. I mean, it's over three and a half weeks. Home runs going to be the issue. What's a better bet that or that A's to have the worst worst was that worst record in the L West. The L West, yeah. At plus 150. That was both. I got hit after. Yes, we brought that up. Of course. Pounded that yesterday. Money on guns later today. The Westgate college lines are coming out either of you two studs signing up in the college contest. I am not. I think he's talking about us. You know what this year, I think I'm going to skip just like grand disson moment to take a year off. The this contest side up sheet. They have, you know, millions. They have survivors. I put a one million six or whatever. Then you I looked at the grand dissonal. I'm like, I said the same thing to the guys. I'm like, you know, I'm not going to do grand dissono this year guys. That's okay. Two funniest things about signing up. It's that. It's that. They still have because you don't have it signed up yet. Do they still have the jacket size option? They do which I do not fill out for superstitious reasons. What Steve Fesick does. A bridge right confidently. See, Fesick doesn't fill. He fills it. Not only does he fill it out. He then shows up and gets a jacket with others when he invests.

43:20That's right. Although, Fesick, what was Fesick's counter story to that? He goes, it's not what it seems like. I thought they were giving me. They were measuring me for the jacket size at the Czech ceremony, which he was invested in a winning entry. I thought it was free. Turns out I had to purchase it at that point. I don't remember the full story. Why are you letting yourself get measured for it then? That's the right. Yeah. In the first place. Okay. Steve's like three. Yeah, I'll take three. Even if I'm an investor. Okay, recapping the bats here with the six tennis plays again. They have not started or they're about to start. Men's side, Jacob Fierneley. Plus 117 versus Tomas Martini. Etchia very Lloyd Harris. Plus 195 versus Stefano Sitsubas. James Duckworth plus 142 versus Yubing Wu. Fierneley Harris Duckworth on the men's side. Lady side. Oksana Selik Menaba plus 147 versus Camila Rakamova. Lannana Tara Rudy plus 3. Fiddy versus Linn and Nosekeva. And Katie McNally plus 108 versus Emma Navarro. We do have two pending from yesterday's.

44:21Yesterday was again a three and three wash. And we made again like five cents on the dollar. We made yesterday long way to go for 0.05 of a unit. And the two that are pending ones is set a piece. Touch out of Maria against Yelena Nastapenko. And the others four to four Magdalena Frecht against. Evelyse. No, Evelyse. No, Eva Yovic pardon me. Those are the tennis today. And by the way, the big sort of the Medvedev are Q3 men's side of things. Or if you have Brandon Nakashima, it's not looking good. Medvedev is up two sets to none against Gorsany. He's sort of coasting there. I shouldn't say quote. He is on serving the third set. But Nakashima down two sets in a break. So we can get Nakashima out of the way. Daniel Medvedev is very live in that quarter. Big foe is still in that quarter too though. It should be pointed out. You sir. Oh, I also read socks 28 to one. Most win September blue J's plus 23 25. Most wins September.

45:21They both lost on September 1. But we do have Dylan Sees on the hill tonight for the blue J's I believe. And then Caleb Williams passing yards leader 20 to one. Nick Bonito defense player of the year 14 to one. For me, week one NFL Jags Jets 6. Teezer Jags Texan 6. Teezer Bucks bangles under 51 and a half in the Broncos plus three minus 120 minus. That's like I finished it 120. Or earlier on the show, one will hill. Early on the show will William Hillium Wilson Hilsen. Marlins Royals under four and a half first five. Orals minus 130 versus the Rockies today. College football week one. Georgia laying the 46 and a half versus 10 to these days. Oh my god. Remember him talking about laying all the points. I don't know if I heard the spread. Oh yeah. 46 and a half. Whoa. He's on Louisville catching seven versus Ole Miss. Week one NFL. He's on the Cardinals plus 10 and a half versus the chargers. Taking the points with the Arizona Cardinals. And then Seahawks to win the NFC West plus two 15 from Will Hill.

46:24Also on the show today. Tim Murray joined us. He has Colorado the Buffalo's plus seven versus Georgia Tech this weekend. And he too is on Louisville plus the points versus Ole Miss. So Will and Tim match on Louisville plus the points versus Ole Miss. Was that the yeah, I think that was the reiner of the the plays on today's mark. Oh, my and my portrait of course. Yankees Dodgers moneyline parlay to make physics head explode. Of his body plus one to what he six Dodgers team total over. As well today over two and a half. That's going to be a first five right. Team total over two and a half. Yeah. So that's first five minus one oh eight. And then the Orioles on the run line today for a borture. So Will is on the money line on the Orioles markets on the run line on the Orioles. There you go. Those are all the bets. A whole bunch of tennis again all day tennis. The weather appears to be okay so we should get them all in today. At least you know famous last words. Nakashima five points away from being balanced.

47:27Good for Medvedev betters like ourselves. Let's go. We don't all we can do. Prop points is next John Hansen who by the way really good at what he does. The record speaks for itself John Hansen next right here at Vison. These sports betting network enjoy.